Joe Rogan Experience #1856 - Nate Bargatze

1. 0:00 – 0:45

   Post-show hang: what “fun” comedy feels like again

   1. NANarrator0:00

      (drumming) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out.

   2. The Joe Rogan Experience.

   3. JRJoe Rogan0:06

      Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. (instrumental music plays) Hello, Nate.

   4. NBNate Bargatze0:14

      Joe.

   5. JRJoe Rogan0:15

      Good to see you, my friend.

   6. NBNate Bargatze0:16

      Good to see you, buddy.

   7. JRJoe Rogan0:17

      It was fun last night. It was a fun day, yeah.

   8. NBNate Bargatze0:18

      It was fun. Yeah. I- y- yeah, that worked out great. I came here at like, you know, to go do a spot. I was in two very different environments, of just a corporate gig and then, uh, the Vulcan. It was, uh ... But it wa- it was awesome. It was awesome to see your, uh, your hour. It's tight, my friend.

   9. JRJoe Rogan0:36

      Thank you.

   10. NBNate Bargatze0:37

       It really was. It was very fun.

   11. JRJoe Rogan0:39

       Thank you.

   12. NBNate Bargatze0:40

       Which was, uh ... I'm big fan of fun.

   13. JRJoe Rogan0:44

       (laughs) Me too. (laughs)

2. 0:45 – 5:26

   Pandemic-era derailment: Twitter politics vs staying funny

   1. NBNate Bargatze0:45

      Yeah. Yeah. And like stuff's not getting as fun anymore. And it was-

   2. JRJoe Rogan0:48

      Yeah.

   3. NBNate Bargatze0:48

      ... fun. It's like you can see when everybody's watching something and it's like they're just having a good time, like they're ... It's just a fun-

   4. JRJoe Rogan0:56

      Yeah.

   5. NBNate Bargatze0:57

      Like, you know, what comedy is. Standup is you're like enjoy it, let's have fun.

   6. JRJoe Rogan1:01

      I think there's still people doing that.

   7. NBNate Bargatze1:03

      Oh, yeah.

   8. JRJoe Rogan1:03

      But there's a lot of people who've kinda lost their way.

   9. NBNate Bargatze1:05

      It's, uh ... Yeah. And I- I think you're gonna see a separation though. I think it will be ... It's, uh, people that are gonna, you know, not wanna go on ... They don't wanna go on the road anymore, and they like ... It- it's a- it's a lot to go do standup. And so, I think you're gonna see ... The pandemic almost like split it to be like all right, who like did whatever they had to do to do shows, where they did them outside, they, you know, or tried to, just try to stay funny-

   10. JRJoe Rogan1:33

       Right.

   11. NBNate Bargatze1:33

       ... during the pandemic.

   12. JRJoe Rogan1:35

       Versus?

   13. NBNate Bargatze1:35

       Versus just collapsing on themselves and not being funny. And it's- that's a mu- you know, it's a muscle.

   14. JRJoe Rogan1:43

       Have you noticed how many people have gotten like very, very political on Twitter? Like during the pandemic?

   15. NBNate Bargatze1:50

       Yeah.

   16. JRJoe Rogan1:50

       It became like i- i- f- especially comedians, and this is ... I'm not trying to be mean, but who are not that good-

   17. NBNate Bargatze1:59

       (laughs)

   18. JRJoe Rogan1:59

       ... and were not that successful.

   19. NBNate Bargatze2:01

       Yeah.

   20. JRJoe Rogan2:01

       You know?

   21. NBNate Bargatze2:02

       Yeah.

   22. JRJoe Rogan2:02

       They were kinda like kinda hanging on. And now you go to their fucking Twitter feed and it's just this political extravaganza.

   23. NBNate Bargatze2:11

       Yeah.

   24. JRJoe Rogan2:12

       It's ... I mean, the- and they- they'll go deep. They're like people who know like, uh, like third string quarterbacks-

   25. NBNate Bargatze2:20

       (laughs)

   26. JRJoe Rogan2:20

       ... that play for colleges, you know.

   27. NBNate Bargatze2:22

       Yeah.

   28. JRJoe Rogan2:22

       That's how they handle, that's how they handle politics. Yeah.

   29. NBNate Bargatze2:25

       You know, they'll do, they'll- they'll talk about like s- obscure senators from North Dakota.

   30. JRJoe Rogan2:30

       (laughs)
3. 5:26 – 11:49

   Building a real act: specials cadence, touring, and tightening material

   1. JRJoe Rogan5:26

      Yeah, and that's like the whole process when you put out a special, of developing new material and then making sure that it's up to snuff, and then recording again and this like ... How many years ... What is your- your- your process, in terms of like how much time-

   2. NBNate Bargatze5:41

      Oh it's-

   3. JRJoe Rogan5:41

      ... do you do in between specials?

   4. NBNate Bargatze5:43

      Uh, this one, I taped the last one in, uh, 2020, 'cause it came out in early '21, and I'm taping the next one in September in Phoenix.

   5. JRJoe Rogan5:53

      So roughly two years?

   6. NBNate Bargatze5:55

      Yeah. It'll be-

   7. JRJoe Rogan5:56

      Yeah.

   8. NBNate Bargatze5:56

      It comes ... A special will come out- Yeah. 'Cause it all times out about the same.

   9. JRJoe Rogan6:00

      Yeah.

   10. NBNate Bargatze6:00

       So two years.

   11. JRJoe Rogan6:01

       Yeah.

   12. NBNate Bargatze6:01

       And I think that's good enou- I don't think you should- that's a lot.

   13. JRJoe Rogan6:04

       Yeah, it's a lot.

   14. NBNate Bargatze6:05

       And, uh, doing it more than that I think is too much.... and then, you know-

   15. JRJoe Rogan6:10

       I did three, two years in a row. I did 2014, '16, and '18.

   16. NBNate Bargatze6:14

       Yeah, I think that's the one.

   17. JRJoe Rogan6:15

       And then I was gonna do '20, but then the pandemic hit and I really didn't do standup for quite a while. And then, uh, I realized that when I started doing standup again, i- um, having a little bit more time with the material, like, really made it tighten up more.

   18. NBNate Bargatze6:31

       Oh, yeah.

   19. JRJoe Rogan6:31

       Like, I feel like everything is way tighter now. Like, this set... It's also working in Texas, because we've been doing, you know, these regular sets at Vulcan, Vulcan Gas Company, and, and Creek in the Cave, and-

   20. NBNate Bargatze6:44

       Mm-hmm.

   21. JRJoe Rogan6:45

       ... so I'm headlining all the time, so I'm doing an hour. So instead of doing, like, 15-minute sets, I'm doing, like, all this material, so it's very tight and I've just been doing it a lot, over and over again. And then I've been touring on the weekends, so I've been doing arenas and theaters and comedy clubs. Like, all these different-

   22. NBNate Bargatze7:01

       Mm-hmm.

   23. JRJoe Rogan7:02

       ... kinds of venues on purpose. Like, different size venues. And I feel like more time's better. I feel like this is, like, the tightest one I've ever had and it's got the most laughs of any special that I've ever had. And I feel like, uh, four years, which, which is what it will be when this one comes out, I feel like that is even better. It's even better-

   24. NBNate Bargatze7:22

       Yeah.

   25. JRJoe Rogan7:22

       ... than two.

   26. NBNate Bargatze7:23

       You get to be with it a lot more.

   27. JRJoe Rogan7:24

       Yeah. And you get to, like, have much more material too, right? So I have, like, a whole extra hour. So I have this hour and then I have, uh, you know, the B-side stuff that I can, like, build up and, and turn into, like, A bits.

   28. NBNate Bargatze7:39

       Yeah.

   29. JRJoe Rogan7:39

       And so, like, once I abandon this special and put it out, I'll have stuff to work with.

   30. NBNate Bargatze7:46

       Yeah. I, I'm a big... I believe the road is... I think you write more on the road.
4. 11:49 – 16:23

   Following killers and weird acts: controlling the room fast

   1. JRJoe Rogan11:49

      You tell, like, long stories and, and people get sucked into your rhythm. It was very fun watching you last night going on after Tony too.

   2. NBNate Bargatze11:56

      Oh. (laughs) Yeah.

   3. JRJoe Rogan11:56

      'Cause... (laughs) So Tony's on stage last night-

   4. NBNate Bargatze11:59

      (laughs)

   5. JRJoe Rogan12:00

      ... uh, for everybody who wasn't there, and Jamie, and, uh, some lady starts fucking screaming at him. She starts screaming at him, some, like, super lefty, liberal lady-

   6. NBNate Bargatze12:10

      (laughs)

   7. JRJoe Rogan12:10

      ... calling him a sexist. And Tony says, "How am I a sexist? I'm literally the most feminine man you'll meet all night." (laughs)

   8. NBNate Bargatze12:20

      (laughs)

   9. JRJoe Rogan12:21

      ... and he- (laughs)

   10. NBNate Bargatze12:22

       (laughs)

   11. JRJoe Rogan12:22

       ... and he starts going into all the different bits where he makes fun of himself. He, he's like, "I already said th- about myself." He goes, "I mock my own masculinity-"

   12. NBNate Bargatze12:32

       (laughs)

   13. JRJoe Rogan12:33

       "... and you're telling me I'm a sexist?" It was very funny.

   14. NBNate Bargatze12:36

       Yeah.

   15. JRJoe Rogan12:37

       And then wound up ca- she was unhinged though.

   16. NBNate Bargatze12:39

       Yeah. She left.

   17. JRJoe Rogan12:40

       So, it was all this craziness. Well, he has a bit about the C word, so it was that bit that set her off. That was like-

   18. NBNate Bargatze12:47

       (laughs)

   19. JRJoe Rogan12:47

       ... "That's it!" And, and she fucking blew a fuse. And then you went on afterwards, no curse words, like, like, you just took control of the room and started telling your stories.

   20. NBNate Bargatze13:00

       Yeah. (laughs)

   21. JRJoe Rogan13:00

       And it was great, man. It was really fun to watch. It was really fun to watch the transition, and, uh, your fucking timing was so good, dude.

   22. NBNate Bargatze13:09

       Oh, thank you, man.

   23. JRJoe Rogan13:10

       Really fun. I just love when I ... You know, I haven't seen you in a while and it's, it's great to be able to watch, like, a comic just, uh, that, you know, you're clearly, like, super tight. You've been on the road. It's real obvious. Like, everything is nice and polished.

   24. NBNate Bargatze13:28

       Yeah. Thank you.

   25. JRJoe Rogan13:28

       It's really fun to watch you s- shift the gears of the room too.

   26. NBNate Bargatze13:32

       That was a good ... That's why, like, New York was great-

   27. JRJoe Rogan13:34

       Yeah.

   28. NBNate Bargatze13:34

       ... because it's like you learned how to do that.

   29. JRJoe Rogan13:36

       Well, you have to.

   30. NBNate Bargatze13:37

       You have to 'cause you gotta-
5. 16:23 – 25:15

   Comedy legend encounters: Louis, Pryor, and standup’s “just words” magic

   1. NBNate Bargatze16:23

      I remember doing, uh ... I was doing a Tonight Show and I was gonna go run it at Gotham in New York, and this was when Louis was hosting SNL. And so I was gonna get to go up, like, first, and then Louis came in to run his SNL skit that he was gonna do on SNL and I had to follow that. Which was, like, ended up being fine, but it was ... Like, Lou- like, that set that he did was, like, unbelievable.

   2. JRJoe Rogan16:46

      Yeah.

   3. NBNate Bargatze16:47

      And he went on and, I mean, just murdered (laughs) , like ... And then, and it's Louis C.K. and Lou- he's hosting SNL. I mean, it's the, it's everything.

   4. JRJoe Rogan16:55

      Yeah.

   5. NBNate Bargatze16:56

      And then it's like, here comes Dave Argetts to do a Tonight Show and everybody's like, "Whatever." You know?

   6. JRJoe Rogan17:00

      (laughs)

   7. NBNate Bargatze17:00

      It's like, fine. And you're just up there trying to do your dumb ... You know, 'cause you feel like you're like ... I'm trying to get into it-

   8. JRJoe Rogan17:05

      Yeah.

   9. NBNate Bargatze17:06

      ... but I learned you would say ... So you have to learn stuff ... Like, I learned then, like, that m- ... You just ... Well, I would walk up, be like, "Obviously the show is peaked," and, like, it's enough to get a laugh.

   10. JRJoe Rogan17:16

       Right.

   11. NBNate Bargatze17:16

       To set ... You know? To be like, "Yeah, yeah. We get what we all just saw."

   12. JRJoe Rogan17:19

       Right.

   13. NBNate Bargatze17:20

       "Let me just try to get back into ..." And then just do your act.

   14. JRJoe Rogan17:23

       When I was, uh, living in LA in the '90s, I had to follow Richard Pryor five weeks in a row, five or six weeks in a row, and it was when Richard Pryor was dying.

   15. NBNate Bargatze17:35

       Oh.

   16. JRJoe Rogan17:36

       And so, uh, he- ... It might have been the 2000s by then. But either way, it was, uh, he was very sick and he was in a wheelchair, and so they would carry him to the stage. So they'd essentially, like ... Marilyn Martinez, his husband, and, uh, Chuy would, uh ... Chuy was the door guard. They would walk him all the way to the stage, like kind of, like, support his body weight-

   17. NBNate Bargatze18:01

       Yeah.

   18. JRJoe Rogan18:01

       ... all the way to the stage and then get him to a seat. And his voice was so feeble that they had to crank the, the sound up really loud, like, "Chhhhhhhhh," and he'd be like, "I always loved pussy." (laughs)

   19. NBNate Bargatze18:18

       (laughs)

   20. JRJoe Rogan18:19

       And he had, and he had (laughs) like, a drink with him.... but it was, you know, he was just trying to-

   21. NBNate Bargatze18:23

       And then you gotta go up after him and, and it's like a whole thing to get him back off stage.

   22. JRJoe Rogan18:27

       Yeah.

   23. NBNate Bargatze18:27

       So, it's not like you get to go right up. You're like, "It's gonna be about 10 minutes before we get him down."

   24. JRJoe Rogan18:31

       Well, not only that, but at the store, we, we would do it like we did at the Vulcan, we'd tag team. The next-

   25. NBNate Bargatze18:36

       Oh.

   26. JRJoe Rogan18:36

       ... I, I would bring up the next guy, the next guy-

   27. NBNate Bargatze18:38

       He'd bring you up?

   28. JRJoe Rogan18:39

       He didn't.

   29. NBNate Bargatze18:40

       Oh.

   30. JRJoe Rogan18:40

       The piano man brought me up.
6. 25:15 – 37:26

   Nate’s early path: Chicago, Comedy College, New York barking, and the 2000s scene

   1. JRJoe Rogan25:15

      What year did you start?

   2. NBNate Bargatze25:16

      I, I started in 2003. Uh, but then I moved to New York in '04.

   3. JRJoe Rogan25:22

      And so, you moved to New York like one year after you started? Where'd you start?

   4. NBNate Bargatze25:27

      Chicago.

   5. JRJoe Rogan25:27

      Oh.

   6. NBNate Bargatze25:27

      I moved to Chicago and-

   7. JRJoe Rogan25:28

      Okay.

   8. NBNate Bargatze25:28

      ... I took a comedy class at Comedy College.

   9. JRJoe Rogan25:30

      Oh, really? Where at?

   10. NBNate Bargatze25:31

       Yeah. Uh, Chi- in Chicago, Comedy College, Jim Roth. I still talk to that guy.

   11. JRJoe Rogan25:35

       Comedy College?

   12. NBNate Bargatze25:36

       Yeah.

   13. JRJoe Rogan25:36

       Is it a good- is it a good-

   14. NBNate Bargatze25:37

       He just ... Uh, yeah. I'm, uh, I'm not against classes. A lot of comics are ... 'Cause it just ... I didn't know what to do. You don't know what to do. It's like, they're not teaching you how to be jokes, but you're like, "I don't ..." You're so nervous. Uh, you're scared. You're ... I, I moved-

   15. JRJoe Rogan25:50

       Right.

   16. NBNate Bargatze25:50

       ... to a different city. I didn't know anybody, so it was nice to just go do it and then-

   17. JRJoe Rogan25:54

       What made you move there?

   18. NBNate Bargatze25:56

       I had a buddy that wanted to go to Second City and he wanted to do improv.

   19. JRJoe Rogan26:00

       Oh, just for ... And you moved from?

   20. NBNate Bargatze26:02

       Nashville.

   21. JRJoe Rogan26:02

       So, straight from Nashville-

   22. NBNate Bargatze26:04

       Yeah.

   23. JRJoe Rogan26:04

       ... right to Chicago, and you were only there a year before you moved to New York?

   24. NBNate Bargatze26:06

       I was ... I did comedy about a year. I was ... Uh, we ended up living there two years, but it was like, I only did comedy about a year and a half there. And then ... But that was, uh, Pete Holmes was there, Kumail Nanjiani-

   25. JRJoe Rogan26:16

       Oh, really?

   26. NBNate Bargatze26:17

       ... Hannibal, Jared Logan, uh-

   27. JRJoe Rogan26:18

       Oh.

   28. NBNate Bargatze26:19

       ... Nick Vanderhaeghe. I mean, it wa- and like, it was, TJ Miller.

   29. JRJoe Rogan26:21

       Oh, so there's a scene?

   30. NBNate Bargatze26:22

       Yeah, yeah. But we were all brand new. And then Pete moved to New York, and then I moved right after Pete. I did, I barked with Pete. His show, uh-
7. 37:26 – 44:28

   Doing comedy through COVID: drive-ins, outdoor specials, and returning indoors

   1. NBNate Bargatze37:26

      No one was liking me. No one was there. And then, uh, there, no, I, during COVID, uh, I, I, that was definitely the most time I took off, whatever it was. I g- I guess a few months. I don't know exactly. And then stuff would, you'd have like an outdoor thing. And then I did a, then I did the drive-in tour. So we had that set up pretty quickly. And then I went and did those. And then so I was doing three, four cities a night. And my special I taped outside. And so it's like you just adjusted to-

   2. JRJoe Rogan37:58

      I never did drive-in shows.

   3. NBNate Bargatze38:00

      ... I gotta do it outside.

   4. JRJoe Rogan38:00

      Did you like those?

   5. NBNate Bargatze38:00

      I liked them. I l- dude, one of my-

   6. JRJoe Rogan38:01

      Bert loved them.

   7. NBNate Bargatze38:02

      I loved them. It was, "Do you wanna go do them?" I don't want to go do them all the time.

   8. JRJoe Rogan38:06

      Right. You wouldn't want-

   9. NBNate Bargatze38:07

      It's not-

   10. JRJoe Rogan38:07

       ... to do it now.

   11. NBNate Bargatze38:08

       No, no. I'm doing amphitheaters right now. And those have been re-

   12. JRJoe Rogan38:11

       Do you like-

   13. NBNate Bargatze38:11

       I like them.

   14. JRJoe Rogan38:11

       Those, some of them are great.

   15. NBNate Bargatze38:12

       Some of them-

   16. JRJoe Rogan38:12

       Some of them are great.

   17. NBNate Bargatze38:13

       ... have been great. So far, they've been awesome.

   18. JRJoe Rogan38:14

       I heard Red Rocks is the shit.

   19. NBNate Bargatze38:15

       I have not done Re-

   20. JRJoe Rogan38:17

       Bert loved it.

   21. NBNate Bargatze38:17

       Yeah.

   22. JRJoe Rogan38:17

       Bert loved it.

   23. NBNate Bargatze38:18

       Oh, yeah. Red Rocks I think is awesome.

   24. JRJoe Rogan38:19

       Bert just filmed a special there.

   25. NBNate Bargatze38:20

       Yeah, sure. Yeah.

   26. JRJoe Rogan38:21

       Yeah.

   27. NBNate Bargatze38:21

       Yeah. Red Rocks is, uh, legendary. Like, and then, but then some of these, like I'm going to Wisconsin Dells, uh, I'm leaving tonight at midnight to ju- start driving there on the bus. And then I'll do that Saturday. And then, so I like the outdoors 'cause you can hear him- it's just going to do different things.

   28. JRJoe Rogan38:41

       Right.

   29. NBNate Bargatze38:42

       Like the drive-in theaters was like, all right. Well, if I'm going, I might as well just go see what it is. I wanna, you know you want to see your act-

   30. JRJoe Rogan38:49

       Yeah.
8. 44:28 – 50:03

   Texas and Nashville: normal life, real people, and the freedom of podcasts

   1. JRJoe Rogan44:28

      Well, that was one of the things that really sold my kids on Texas. You know, we, when we came out here, I was just disillusioned with LA, and I was very confused as to what the fuck they were doing and when they wouldn't let people do outside shows and they wouldn't let restaurants r- open. They wouldn't even let restaurants serve outside in some places. It was fucked. And it was just like, you, you're seeing these dipshits, like the mayor of LA, that Eric Garcetti guy is a fucking idiot. You're seeing that guy, like, telling people what to do.

   2. NBNate Bargatze44:59

      Mm-hmm.

   3. JRJoe Rogan44:59

      And I was like, "This is a disaster. I gotta get the fuck outta here." But I didn't know what to do. And I thought about moving to Utah at one point in time. I was gonna get a mountain house. I thought about moving to Montana. I was like, "I just gotta get the fuck out of this city." Like, "I don't trust these people. I don't wanna be under their governance." And then we came to LA with a bunch of friends from California that were thinking about moving to Austin. And we said, you know... and I was like, you know, "I don't know. I'm- I wasn't sure if I wanted to move to Austin, but, like, maybe that's a good place to be. I always love it here." And my fucking kids when they came here and, you know, they were 10 and 12 at the time, and they were like, "Why doesn't anyone have masks on? How come it's different here?" Like, uh, we'd go to a restaurant. We were just sitting in a restaurant like, "This is, like, normal? This is normal?"

   4. NBNate Bargatze45:46

      (laughs)

   5. JRJoe Rogan45:46

      We went and had barbecue outside, and everyone's friendly and they're like... And then we went to the lake, and, uh, we were on the lake and the lady who was showing us this house, she's very smart, my friend Bridget. She's a good friend now. She took us out on a boat on the lake, and my kids were like, we were jumping in the water and laughing.

   6. NBNate Bargatze46:04

      Yeah.

   7. JRJoe Rogan46:04

      And, and they're like, "I wanna live here." And my wife was like, "Ugh." And I go, "Let's buy a fucking house here. Mm. If you don't like it, we could, you know, try it out for a year." And then it became, let's try it out for a year. And then as soon as we-

   8. NBNate Bargatze46:16

      And here we are.

   9. JRJoe Rogan46:17

      ... soon as we lived here, my kids immediately loved it. Like, they made friends like normal kids. Like, normal kids that don't wanna be fucking reality TV stars. Like-

   10. NBNate Bargatze46:28

       Well, I think that's the biggest-

   11. JRJoe Rogan46:30

       (laughs)

   12. NBNate Bargatze46:30

       ... is to get around regular people. I've been back in Nashville for seven years, I think, where I'm from, and our daughter, we moved back when she was two, and, but it's like my family's there, and, like, she goes to school and she rides the bus and-

   13. JRJoe Rogan46:45

       And your, your parents live there.

   14. NBNate Bargatze46:46

       Yeah, yeah.

   15. JRJoe Rogan46:46

       Yeah.

   16. NBNate Bargatze46:46

       My parents are there. My wife's parents are about an hour away. Like-

   17. JRJoe Rogan46:50

       That's nice.

   18. NBNate Bargatze46:50

       ... everybody's super close-

   19. JRJoe Rogan46:51

       That's nice.

   20. NBNate Bargatze46:51

       ... so we see our family often.

   21. JRJoe Rogan46:52

       Yeah.

   22. NBNate Bargatze46:53

       And, uh, and we're f- I mean, luckily I'm from Nashville, and Nashville's become a awesome town to move to. And, but they're... you know, our daughter goes to school, rides the bus. Like, it's trying to g- let her, like, have the most normal-

   23. JRJoe Rogan47:07

       Normal.

   24. NBNate Bargatze47:07

       ... kinda like existence.

   25. JRJoe Rogan47:08

       Yeah.

   26. NBNate Bargatze47:08

       And I think it's, it's good for comics 'cause we are... I'm doing normal things. I'm doing-

   27. JRJoe Rogan47:13

       Yes.

   28. NBNate Bargatze47:13

       You know, it's like you're not, uh, even, you know, you're not thinking about the business the whole time.

   29. JRJoe Rogan47:18

       Right.

   30. NBNate Bargatze47:18

       Like, it's not like you... I mean, even though you do think about it, you know? But it's not as... you're like, "Yeah, I still gotta go run..." You know, we go watch her play softball, and then we go do this and then-
9. 50:03 – 1:15:49

   Hollywood friction: auditions, pilots, multicam sitcoms, and why standups thrive on stage

   1. NBNate Bargatze50:03

      I think it's... Yeah, it is interesting to, uh... I... Like, when I went to... I mean, I l- I lived in LA for two years, and then it was like going to auditions and I just was like terrible at them. Like, I can only talk like this, and I don't know how to not do this. I wasn't... Uh, I remember getting a callback somewhere and they were like, she was like, "If you dyed your, like, beard and hair just black, you would look young enough." And then I go back to the callback still looking like this. And I think I was like, "Oh, y'all wanted me to do this for the callback." And I didn't realize that, and I was like, "But what if I don't get it?"

   2. JRJoe Rogan50:36

      (laughs)

   3. NBNate Bargatze50:36

      Like, I'm not gonna dye... I just dye my-

   4. JRJoe Rogan50:39

      Walking around with weird black hair?

   5. NBNate Bargatze50:40

      Yeah, yeah. And then you're like... And y'all say, "No"?

   6. JRJoe Rogan50:44

      Right.

   7. NBNate Bargatze50:44

      Like, I'm... Just the odds are I'm not getting this.

   8. JRJoe Rogan50:46

      Right.

   9. NBNate Bargatze50:47

      So I'm not gonna go do something that's so crazy just to be like, "Nah, we're good, dude." Uh, and I remem-

   10. JRJoe Rogan50:54

       Why can't they imagine you with dark hair? What are they, stupid?

   11. NBNate Bargatze50:57

       I don't know. Yeah, you're like-

   12. JRJoe Rogan50:58

       How hard is it to dye... It takes 10 minutes.

   13. NBNate Bargatze51:00

       That's where you're... That's where it's like you're, you're looking f- I don't know. They're not... They're looking for something... It, it's out of your hands.

   14. JRJoe Rogan51:08

       Isn't there some stuff that they can just spray... Like, when girls do, like, purple hair and they can just rinse it right out? You can do that.

   15. NBNate Bargatze51:13

       Yeah, I could've, could've probably been.

   16. JRJoe Rogan51:14

       You can just, like-

   17. NBNate Bargatze51:14

       I could've probably done that.

   18. JRJoe Rogan51:15

       ... spray-

   19. NBNate Bargatze51:15

       I didn't think about any of this at the time.

   20. JRJoe Rogan51:17

       (laughs) That shit they do on your face though, I, I know that guys have put that, like... I don't know if it's Just For Men or some other company. They put stuff on their beard and it gives them a chemical burn on their face. It's fuck guys, face it.

   21. NBNate Bargatze51:29

       Oh, that's crazy.

   22. JRJoe Rogan51:29

       I don't know which... Find out what that is. Like, there's stuff that guys do where they try to get rid of the gray on their beard. And maybe it's whether you leave it in long or maybe people are allergic to it, but I went down a rabbit hole once and I saw a bunch of dudes with, like, burned faces.

   23. NBNate Bargatze51:45

       Well, can't you not... Like, if you've already shown your gray, like if they've already seen it, then it's like-

   24. JRJoe Rogan51:51

       You can't go back?

   25. NBNate Bargatze51:51

       You can't... Like, yeah, if you, like, tomorrow show up and you're n- just try to be normal (laughs) and just-

   26. JRJoe Rogan51:55

       (laughs)

   27. NBNate Bargatze51:55

       ... we both have just very black beards. And we're like, "Hello."

   28. JRJoe Rogan51:59

       We thought about doing that for Sober October 'cause like a- all of us are going bald. Oh, well, I'm fully bald, but like Ari's pretty bald. Tom's bald. Burt's going bald. Like, we should wear wigs, just like for the whole month.

   29. NBNate Bargatze52:12

       Oh, yeah. (laughs)

   30. JRJoe Rogan52:12

       The whole month. (laughs) The whole month you have to wear, like, a wacky toupee.

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