Joe Rogan Experience #1856 - Nate Bargatze

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Joe Rogan 0:06 Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. (instrumental music plays) Hello, Nate.

Nate Bargatze 0:14 Joe.

Joe Rogan 0:15 Good to see you, my friend.

Nate Bargatze 0:16 Good to see you, buddy.

Joe Rogan 0:17 It was fun last night. It was a fun day, yeah.

Nate Bargatze 0:18 It was fun. Yeah. I- y- yeah, that worked out great. I came here at like, you know, to go do a spot. I was in two very different environments, of just a corporate gig and then, uh, the Vulcan. It was, uh ... But it wa- it was awesome. It was awesome to see your, uh, your hour. It's tight, my friend.

Joe Rogan 0:36 Thank you.

Nate Bargatze 0:37 It really was. It was very fun.

Joe Rogan 0:39 Thank you.

Nate Bargatze 0:40 Which was, uh ... I'm big fan of fun.

Joe Rogan 0:44 (laughs) Me too. (laughs)

Nate Bargatze 0:45 Yeah. Yeah. And like stuff's not getting as fun anymore. And it was-

Joe Rogan 0:48 Yeah.

Nate Bargatze 0:48 ... fun. It's like you can see when everybody's watching something and it's like they're just having a good time, like they're ... It's just a fun-

Joe Rogan 0:56 Yeah.

Nate Bargatze 0:57 Like, you know, what comedy is. Standup is you're like enjoy it, let's have fun.

Joe Rogan 1:01 I think there's still people doing that.

Nate Bargatze 1:03 Oh, yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:03 But there's a lot of people who've kinda lost their way.

Nate Bargatze 1:05 It's, uh ... Yeah. And I- I think you're gonna see a separation though. I think it will be ... It's, uh, people that are gonna, you know, not wanna go on ... They don't wanna go on the road anymore, and they like ... It- it's a- it's a lot to go do standup. And so, I think you're gonna see ... The pandemic almost like split it to be like all right, who like did whatever they had to do to do shows, where they did them outside, they, you know, or tried to, just try to stay funny-

Joe Rogan 1:33 Right.

Nate Bargatze 1:33 ... during the pandemic.

Joe Rogan 1:35 Versus?

Nate Bargatze 1:35 Versus just collapsing on themselves and not being funny. And it's- that's a mu- you know, it's a muscle.

Joe Rogan 1:43 Have you noticed how many people have gotten like very, very political on Twitter? Like during the pandemic?

Nate Bargatze 1:50 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:50 It became like i- i- f- especially comedians, and this is ... I'm not trying to be mean, but who are not that good-

Nate Bargatze 1:59 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:59 ... and were not that successful.

Nate Bargatze 2:01 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 2:01 You know?

Nate Bargatze 2:02 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 2:02 They were kinda like kinda hanging on. And now you go to their fucking Twitter feed and it's just this political extravaganza.

Nate Bargatze 2:11 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 2:12 It's ... I mean, the- and they- they'll go deep. They're like people who know like, uh, like third string quarterbacks-

Nate Bargatze 2:20 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 2:20 ... that play for colleges, you know.

Nate Bargatze 2:22 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 2:22 That's how they handle, that's how they handle politics. Yeah.

Nate Bargatze 2:25 You know, they'll do, they'll- they'll talk about like s- obscure senators from North Dakota.

Joe Rogan 2:30 (laughs)

Nate Bargatze 2:30 Like what the fuck are you talking about?

Joe Rogan 2:32 Yeah. We should know who they are.

Nate Bargatze 2:33 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 2:33 (laughs)

Nate Bargatze 2:33 Yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 2:34 It's ... But it's they're- they're obsessed with it, in this very weird way. It's like they've ... It's ... I think they're distracting themselves from the fact that their career is kinda gone, and so now they're just mostly concentrating on politics.

Nate Bargatze 2:48 I think it's a, uh, and too for s- some I- I'll always look at it as like a cash grab. Like sometimes it's like, it's a quick like all right, you get some, you think some steam on this kinda thing. Maybe some tweets or some-

Joe Rogan 3:01 Yeah.

Nate Bargatze 3:02 Whatever you feel like you're being, uh, you're having a lot of reaction in that Twitter world. And, uh, so you think like all right this is, this is ... I'll do- I'll do this as a career. Like th- you're trying to pick your lane.

Joe Rogan 3:14 Right.

Nate Bargatze 3:14 And then they go down that lane, and that lane just can't sustain. It's like when you go watch a- a standup comic. You still, you have to have an act. People will go watch someone for once, but if they do not have an act, like e- there n- no one's going to come back.

Joe Rogan 3:31 Right.

Nate Bargatze 3:32 An act is what it's about. You go to Vegas-

Joe Rogan 3:34 Right.

Nate Bargatze 3:34 We're still, you still go to Vegas ... I- David Copperfield has to do an act.

Joe Rogan 3:39 Right.

Nate Bargatze 3:39 He- that's why they've been doing ... That's why Carrot Top's been in Vegas for 30 year- or whatever he's been there, 'cause there's an act.

Joe Rogan 3:46 Right.

Nate Bargatze 3:46 And you're like I bought this, and I'm watching this for one hour, and it was entertaining, and I leave and I have a good time. You have to create an act. You can't- it can't be this like, like trick that's kinda like I'll trick you to get in the door, but then you go watch it. I see it with like there's some, uh ... You know, you see people on Instagram, and I don't know 'em. Like some of 'em are like these rappers, and they have like five million followers or something, and you're like is this guy ... Or is he like super famous or something? And then ... But you're like I don't know if he is. Like I don't, I don't ... I think it's like he's famous on Instagram. Like he's famous for people watching that, but you're like I don't know if this guy's selling tickets, or ...

Joe Rogan 4:25 Mm-hmm.

Nate Bargatze 4:26 And I don't know it's- I'm sure it's more than just the ra- I've just seen a couple of the rappers. As I follow- I started following one because I was like well I don't ... I was like curious to be like well what's this dude's life? Like you know you just want to watch him-

Joe Rogan 4:38 Right.

Nate Bargatze 4:38 He's doing some- you know, they're doing rock venues and they're doing all this, and they have millions of followers. And they have all the stuff, the watches, the all the-

Joe Rogan 4:46 (laughs)

Nate Bargatze 4:46 And you're like- I'm just like is this guy ... Is it- you know they sell- is that guy gonna sell out Madison Square Garden? And I don't know if he- I don't know if it is. I mean maybe, maybe it is, maybe I'm completely wrong. But it's- it's the fascinating ... You get this audience that's on board with you as social media but like they're not gonna translate- they're not gonna go with you for your l-

Joe Rogan 5:09 Right.

Nate Bargatze 5:09 ... career. People want to grow with their people I think. If you like someone you're like I'd like to grow- like-

Joe Rogan 5:16 Sure.

Nate Bargatze 5:16 ... you see 'em have a family and then they have this and they kinda just keep talking about their evolution of life, and that's what you enjoy watching. Like ...

Joe Rogan 5:26 Yeah, and that's like the whole process when you put out a special, of developing new material and then making sure that it's up to snuff, and then recording again and this like ... How many years ... What is your- your- your process, in terms of like how much time-

Nate Bargatze 5:41 Oh it's-

Joe Rogan 5:41 ... do you do in between specials?

Nate Bargatze 5:43 Uh, this one, I taped the last one in, uh, 2020, 'cause it came out in early '21, and I'm taping the next one in September in Phoenix.

Joe Rogan 5:53 So roughly two years?

Nate Bargatze 5:55 Yeah. It'll be-

Joe Rogan 5:56 Yeah.

Nate Bargatze 5:56 It comes ... A special will come out- Yeah. 'Cause it all times out about the same.

Joe Rogan 6:00 Yeah.

Nate Bargatze 6:00 So two years.

Joe Rogan 6:01 Yeah.

Nate Bargatze 6:01 And I think that's good enou- I don't think you should- that's a lot.

Joe Rogan 6:04 Yeah, it's a lot.

Nate Bargatze 6:05 And, uh, doing it more than that I think is too much.... and then, you know-

Joe Rogan 6:10 I did three, two years in a row. I did 2014, '16, and '18.

Nate Bargatze 6:14 Yeah, I think that's the one.

Joe Rogan 6:15 And then I was gonna do '20, but then the pandemic hit and I really didn't do standup for quite a while. And then, uh, I realized that when I started doing standup again, i- um, having a little bit more time with the material, like, really made it tighten up more.

Nate Bargatze 6:31 Oh, yeah.

Joe Rogan 6:31 Like, I feel like everything is way tighter now. Like, this set... It's also working in Texas, because we've been doing, you know, these regular sets at Vulcan, Vulcan Gas Company, and, and Creek in the Cave, and-

Nate Bargatze 6:44 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 6:45 ... so I'm headlining all the time, so I'm doing an hour. So instead of doing, like, 15-minute sets, I'm doing, like, all this material, so it's very tight and I've just been doing it a lot, over and over again. And then I've been touring on the weekends, so I've been doing arenas and theaters and comedy clubs. Like, all these different-

Nate Bargatze 7:01 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 7:02 ... kinds of venues on purpose. Like, different size venues. And I feel like more time's better. I feel like this is, like, the tightest one I've ever had and it's got the most laughs of any special that I've ever had. And I feel like, uh, four years, which, which is what it will be when this one comes out, I feel like that is even better. It's even better-

Nate Bargatze 7:22 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 7:22 ... than two.

Nate Bargatze 7:23 You get to be with it a lot more.

Joe Rogan 7:24 Yeah. And you get to, like, have much more material too, right? So I have, like, a whole extra hour. So I have this hour and then I have, uh, you know, the B-side stuff that I can, like, build up and, and turn into, like, A bits.

Nate Bargatze 7:39 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 7:39 And so, like, once I abandon this special and put it out, I'll have stuff to work with.

Nate Bargatze 7:46 Yeah. I, I'm a big... I believe the road is... I think you write more on the road.

Joe Rogan 7:50 Yeah.

Nate Bargatze 7:50 'Cause when you have more time on stage, you can... Y- y- you're just not as, like... You know, like, doing sets and doing spots are like... That's how you get stuff tight and that's what you need at the beginning, is to learn how to be tight.

Joe Rogan 8:02 Mm-hmm.

Nate Bargatze 8:03 Uh, but, you know, if you go do... When I... You go back to New York, you do 10-minute spots and you're like, "Well, I feel like I gotta murder." Like, you can't, like, sit for a second.

Joe Rogan 8:11 Right.

Nate Bargatze 8:11 And when you got a long time, I can sit 'cause I know the next thing's gonna be work.

Joe Rogan 8:15 Right.

Nate Bargatze 8:16 And then you can... So you can really, like, be like, "Let me just see if I can mess around with this-

Joe Rogan 8:20 Yeah.

Nate Bargatze 8:20 ... a little bit here." Because there's not as much pressure as, like... You know, you mess with one bit, and then your bits just get longer.

Joe Rogan 8:27 Yeah.

Nate Bargatze 8:27 And when you start doing... I've noticed from going to clubs, to theaters... Like, when I first started headlining at clubs, it was... I mean, doing 45 minutes was tough. I would get tired. I remember just-

Joe Rogan 8:38 (laughs)

Nate Bargatze 8:39 ... talking that long, like, you're like, "I've never..." You're just like, "How do people even do?" You hit 35 minutes and you're like, "I don't even... I'm out of everything."

Joe Rogan 8:47 (laughs)

Nate Bargatze 8:47 I've done every closer I've ever come up with. And so now you're just trying to get out of the set. And then the longer you do it, then you start getting into theaters. And I'm not a big... I don't move around a lot, like all this, but, like, you do... You just, like... Everything just expands 'cause there's more people, there's more... It's just a different... It's a- i- i- it's- it's pretty wild. It's a pretty different thing. And it's fun to learn it. It's fun to get to do it.

Joe Rogan 9:12 Some guys get stuck in that city mentality and they, they keep doing those 15-minute sets. And those 15-minute sets, or 10-minute sets, are great, but if you want a headline, it's not the same. It's not like... You just don't string 10 of those sets together. Like, you really have to develop an actual hour of the show.

Nate Bargatze 9:31 It's a show.

Joe Rogan 9:31 If you're gonna do an hour, you, you, you can't just take four 15-minute sets and sort of-

Nate Bargatze 9:35 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 9:36 You really want it to flow. And the only way to get the sense of the- the right way to do it is to do that hour. And I think that fucks guys when they, they only do the city and then they try to go on the road and, and headline and you see them in their fucking hotel room in a panic with, like, stacks of notes-

Nate Bargatze 9:51 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 9:51 ... like, trying to piece all their-

Nate Bargatze 9:53 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 9:53 ... piece their act together.

Nate Bargatze 9:54 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 9:55 You know?

Nate Bargatze 9:55 It's a show.

Joe Rogan 9:56 Yeah.

Nate Bargatze 9:56 It's, uh... I love, uh, making stuff, like, really go into the next thing. Like, that's how you remember your act-

Joe Rogan 10:04 Right.

Nate Bargatze 10:04 ... is you're like, "Well, the only thing that could come after this is this." Like, if you're ta-... You know, I'm talking about my kid, then I'll talk about my wife. Well, like, tha- they go together.

Joe Rogan 10:12 Right.

Nate Bargatze 10:13 And so you put them together, and then you put all this stuff together. And that's the, that's the aspect of creating a show, and that's where... Like, I... Like, you tell... Like, if you see young comics, or even young entertainers, it's like, that's why it's like, do an act, dude. Like, you gotta create. Even in a five-minute thing, at least have a system-

Joe Rogan 10:29 Yeah.

Nate Bargatze 10:29 ... that you're like, "I'm starting with this, I'm gonna close with this, and I'm gonna try to make 'em intertwi-..." You know-

Joe Rogan 10:34 Yeah.

Nate Bargatze 10:34 ... make it seem like I'm not going in between each thing.

Joe Rogan 10:38 Unless you're one of those non-sequitur guys.

Nate Bargatze 10:40 Yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 10:40 I've always felt like those guys have the hardest job, like the Mitch Hedberg types or the Steven Wright types, those guys who just do, "Here's another joke. Here's another jo-" Like, William Montgomery does that.

Nate Bargatze 10:50 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 10:51 It's just like, "Here's a joke. Here's another joke." It's like, "Whoo, how do you remember all that?"

Nate Bargatze 10:55 I, I... That I don't know. That's a lot. I mean, it's, it's just 'cause it's, it's... You know, if you talk about yourself and it's personal, you're like, "Well, at least it's your opinion, it's your point of view," so I think then it makes everything- everything becomes funny because it's your point of view. So if I'm watching you, I'm buying into you, so I want you to go to the grocery store.

Joe Rogan 11:16 Right.

Nate Bargatze 11:16 And I wanna see what Joe Rogan does at the grocery store.

Joe Rogan 11:17 Yeah.

Nate Bargatze 11:18 And so, like, there's a lot more opportunity for that. And then that m-... That would make me nervous with those guys. That's why it is amazing to be able to write these jokes, to be actual joke writers, which is, you know, this... Fa-... Standup was. It's how standup started-

Joe Rogan 11:32 Yeah.

Nate Bargatze 11:32 ... just this joke writing. And to be able to do that and just crank out these jokes, it's unreal.

Joe Rogan 11:38 I love the fact there's so many different styles too. I really do love the fact that there are these, like, absurdist, non-sequitur guys, and then there's other guys like you. You tell, like, stories.

Nate Bargatze 11:48 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 11:49 You tell, like, long stories and, and people get sucked into your rhythm. It was very fun watching you last night going on after Tony too.

Nate Bargatze 11:56 Oh. (laughs) Yeah.

Joe Rogan 11:56 'Cause... (laughs) So Tony's on stage last night-

Nate Bargatze 11:59 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 12:00 ... uh, for everybody who wasn't there, and Jamie, and, uh, some lady starts fucking screaming at him. She starts screaming at him, some, like, super lefty, liberal lady-

Nate Bargatze 12:10 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 12:10 ... calling him a sexist. And Tony says, "How am I a sexist? I'm literally the most feminine man you'll meet all night." (laughs)

Nate Bargatze 12:20 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 12:21 ... and he- (laughs)

Nate Bargatze 12:22 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 12:22 ... and he starts going into all the different bits where he makes fun of himself. He, he's like, "I already said th- about myself." He goes, "I mock my own masculinity-"

Nate Bargatze 12:32 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 12:33 "... and you're telling me I'm a sexist?" It was very funny.

Nate Bargatze 12:36 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 12:37 And then wound up ca- she was unhinged though.

Nate Bargatze 12:39 Yeah. She left.

Joe Rogan 12:40 So, it was all this craziness. Well, he has a bit about the C word, so it was that bit that set her off. That was like-

Nate Bargatze 12:47 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 12:47 ... "That's it!" And, and she fucking blew a fuse. And then you went on afterwards, no curse words, like, like, you just took control of the room and started telling your stories.

Nate Bargatze 13:00 Yeah. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 13:00 And it was great, man. It was really fun to watch. It was really fun to watch the transition, and, uh, your fucking timing was so good, dude.

Nate Bargatze 13:09 Oh, thank you, man.

Joe Rogan 13:10 Really fun. I just love when I ... You know, I haven't seen you in a while and it's, it's great to be able to watch, like, a comic just, uh, that, you know, you're clearly, like, super tight. You've been on the road. It's real obvious. Like, everything is nice and polished.

Nate Bargatze 13:28 Yeah. Thank you.

Joe Rogan 13:28 It's really fun to watch you s- shift the gears of the room too.

Nate Bargatze 13:32 That was a good ... That's why, like, New York was great-

Joe Rogan 13:34 Yeah.

Nate Bargatze 13:34 ... because it's like you learned how to do that.

Joe Rogan 13:36 Well, you have to.

Nate Bargatze 13:37 You have to 'cause you gotta-

Joe Rogan 13:38 Right.

Nate Bargatze 13:38 You're following who knows what.

Joe Rogan 13:40 Who knows what.

Nate Bargatze 13:41 And it's ... W- are you following ... Because they're gonna murder.

Joe Rogan 13:44 Right.

Nate Bargatze 13:44 You're following Greer Barnes and, uh, Ben Bailey and they ... I remember them ... And like, they were ... Wilson Vince, they would murder. And then you'd have to go up behind them and then I was ... I had, you know, this rhythm and I talked slower and all this. So, I, I ... You had to learn very quickly how to like ... How do I get you to come to me?

Joe Rogan 14:00 Right.

Nate Bargatze 14:01 'Cause if I ... I can't match energy.

Joe Rogan 14:03 Right.

Nate Bargatze 14:03 That's a big one that I ... That's always the one that I, I don't ever ... I ... And people always say, like, "What advice would you give yourself?" Like, I'm not a big ... You're like ... I learned everything 'cause of all the stuff that I failed. But it's ... If you just remind yourself, like, just do you-

Joe Rogan 14:16 Yeah.

Nate Bargatze 14:16 ... and just get into your rhythm. You can't match what other people do.

Joe Rogan 14:20 It makes you tighten your stuff up, though.

Nate Bargatze 14:23 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 14:23 It does make you put, like ... You have to edit things well. Like, when you're going on after killers and you have to establish that you know what you're doing, like, the audience has to get some confidence in you.

Nate Bargatze 14:34 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 14:34 If you're following some ... The worst people to follow are ... They don't really have them anymore. They're kinda rare now, but music acts.

Nate Bargatze 14:42 Yeah. (laughs) Yeah.

Joe Rogan 14:43 You ever have to follow-

Nate Bargatze 14:44 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 14:45 ... a music act?

Nate Bargatze 14:45 Yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah.

Joe Rogan 14:46 So, what I mean by music act, I don't mean, like, musician, for folks, for folks at home. I mean, like, a c- comedy music guy who sings comedy songs, and they usually suck.

Nate Bargatze 14:56 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 14:56 But they usually have something to do with, like, getting your dick sucked or-

Nate Bargatze 14:59 (laughs) Yeah.

Joe Rogan 15:00 ... sh- shitting your pants. (laughs)

Nate Bargatze 15:02 (laughs) And they kinda ... They sound amazing. You're like-

Joe Rogan 15:04 (laughs)

Nate Bargatze 15:04 "That sounds unbelievable." (laughs)

Joe Rogan 15:06 Just, "Where's this guy playing?"

Nate Bargatze 15:08 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 15:08 "I wanna hear about shitting your pants." Um, but yeah, they, they, they would, they would fucking kill, and they had music, so they're like ... (singing) "I shit my pants." Ba- you know?

Nate Bargatze 15:18 Yeah, yeah. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 15:19 And then you're on afterwards, "So, uh, took my daughter to the park the other day." (laughs)

Nate Bargatze 15:23 Yeah, it's such a weird ... (laughs)

Joe Rogan 15:26 (laughs) And you have to have, like ... It has to be ... The, the stuff that you say first has to somehow or another establish who you are.

Nate Bargatze 15:34 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 15:34 And you have to, like, get them, so they're-

Nate Bargatze 15:36 And how quick.

Joe Rogan 15:36 ... interested.

Nate Bargatze 15:37 You gotta get them quick.

Joe Rogan 15:37 Yeah.

Nate Bargatze 15:38 That-

Joe Rogan 15:38 They have to be interested in you.

Nate Bargatze 15:39 You gotta learn ... Uh, the thing I learned in New York is, like, you gotta make them laugh as, as quick as you can.

Joe Rogan 15:44 Yes.

Nate Bargatze 15:45 And so it's like, "What can I do to get you in my rhythm and what's the quickest laugh I can get to," so you can kinda reset the tone. 'Cause if you follow something ... an act like that or someone that murders or something, you're gonna ... It's gonna t- it might take a couple jokes, even if they're good jokes, just to, like, reset the room and then be like, "All right."

Joe Rogan 16:04 Yeah.

Nate Bargatze 16:04 "Now I got you." 'Cause you only have 10 minutes.

Joe Rogan 16:06 Yeah.

Nate Bargatze 16:06 You only have 15 minutes, like, so it's tough.

Joe Rogan 16:08 That was the Store too, though, is a big thing about the Store. It's like, you're, you're going on after arena acts, like, you, you'll follow Sebastian, you'll follow-

Nate Bargatze 16:15 Oh, yeah.

Joe Rogan 16:15 It's like, there's all these killers. Louis C.K. stops in. Like, Jesus Christ, like, you ... Ev- on any night you're following just assassins.

Nate Bargatze 16:23 I remember doing, uh ... I was doing a Tonight Show and I was gonna go run it at Gotham in New York, and this was when Louis was hosting SNL. And so I was gonna get to go up, like, first, and then Louis came in to run his SNL skit that he was gonna do on SNL and I had to follow that. Which was, like, ended up being fine, but it was ... Like, Lou- like, that set that he did was, like, unbelievable.

Joe Rogan 16:46 Yeah.

Nate Bargatze 16:47 And he went on and, I mean, just murdered (laughs) , like ... And then, and it's Louis C.K. and Lou- he's hosting SNL. I mean, it's the, it's everything.

Joe Rogan 16:55 Yeah.

Nate Bargatze 16:56 And then it's like, here comes Dave Argetts to do a Tonight Show and everybody's like, "Whatever." You know?

Joe Rogan 17:00 (laughs)

Nate Bargatze 17:00 It's like, fine. And you're just up there trying to do your dumb ... You know, 'cause you feel like you're like ... I'm trying to get into it-

Joe Rogan 17:05 Yeah.

Nate Bargatze 17:06 ... but I learned you would say ... So you have to learn stuff ... Like, I learned then, like, that m- ... You just ... Well, I would walk up, be like, "Obviously the show is peaked," and, like, it's enough to get a laugh.

Joe Rogan 17:16 Right.

Nate Bargatze 17:16 To set ... You know? To be like, "Yeah, yeah. We get what we all just saw."

Joe Rogan 17:19 Right.

Nate Bargatze 17:20 "Let me just try to get back into ..." And then just do your act.

Joe Rogan 17:23 When I was, uh, living in LA in the '90s, I had to follow Richard Pryor five weeks in a row, five or six weeks in a row, and it was when Richard Pryor was dying.

Nate Bargatze 17:35 Oh.

Joe Rogan 17:36 And so, uh, he- ... It might have been the 2000s by then. But either way, it was, uh, he was very sick and he was in a wheelchair, and so they would carry him to the stage. So they'd essentially, like ... Marilyn Martinez, his husband, and, uh, Chuy would, uh ... Chuy was the door guard. They would walk him all the way to the stage, like kind of, like, support his body weight-

Nate Bargatze 18:01 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 18:01 ... all the way to the stage and then get him to a seat. And his voice was so feeble that they had to crank the, the sound up really loud, like, "Chhhhhhhhh," and he'd be like, "I always loved pussy." (laughs)

Nate Bargatze 18:18 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 18:19 And he had, and he had (laughs) like, a drink with him.... but it was, you know, he was just trying to-

Nate Bargatze 18:23 And then you gotta go up after him and, and it's like a whole thing to get him back off stage.

Joe Rogan 18:27 Yeah.

Nate Bargatze 18:27 So, it's not like you get to go right up. You're like, "It's gonna be about 10 minutes before we get him down."

Joe Rogan 18:31 Well, not only that, but at the store, we, we would do it like we did at the Vulcan, we'd tag team. The next-

Nate Bargatze 18:36 Oh.

Joe Rogan 18:36 ... I, I would bring up the next guy, the next guy-

Nate Bargatze 18:38 He'd bring you up?

Joe Rogan 18:39 He didn't.

Nate Bargatze 18:40 Oh.

Joe Rogan 18:40 The piano man brought me up.

Nate Bargatze 18:41 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 18:42 'Cause they have to carry him outta there.

Nate Bargatze 18:43 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 18:43 So they, they would come back on stage and grab Richard Pryor, and then the piano man would be like r- who was Jeff Scott, rest in peace. And he would go, uh, "Richard Pryor, ladies and gentlemen. And now, please welcome Joe Rogan."

Nate Bargatze 18:57 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 18:58 (laughs) And I was just fucking... And I was, I think, I'm pretty sure it was in the '90s, 'cause I remember I was in my 20s, and I was just like, "What am I doing following Richard Pryor?"

Nate Bargatze 19:06 Yeah, that's wild. Well, to be able to see that's pretty crazy.

Joe Rogan 19:09 Yeah.

Nate Bargatze 19:09 That you crossed paths enough to get to see, I mean, to see him.

Joe Rogan 19:15 Mm-hmm.

Nate Bargatze 19:15 Even at that, even at that stage is-

Joe Rogan 19:18 Well, it was a, a full circle for me because the first time I ever really saw a standup was, I was 15 years old and my parents took me to see Live at the Sunset Strip.

Nate Bargatze 19:28 Oh, wow.

Joe Rogan 19:28 I'll never forget.

Nate Bargatze 19:30 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 19:30 I was, uh, in the movie theater watching these people flop around (slaps legs) their seats, laughing so hard they couldn't even sit still. They were just falling down. And, and I remember looking around the theater going, "I can't believe how funny this is. This is so funny and all he's doing is talking."

Nate Bargatze 19:48 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 19:48 'Cause I thought about, like, Stripes, which was this amazing funny movie.

Nate Bargatze 19:52 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 19:52 I'm like, "But it wasn't this funny. Like, this guy's so funny and he's just talking." I'm like, "It's incredible."

Nate Bargatze 19:58 Just words.

Joe Rogan 19:59 And that had, uh, like a permanent effect on me. I ne- I mean, I didn't think back then, "Oh, I wanna be a comedian," 'cause that was when I was doing martial arts and that's all I thought about. But I couldn't imagine how funny it was. I was like, "This is incredible. I've never seen anything like that." 'Cause all, the only comedy that I'd ever seen other than that was, like, The Tonight Show.

Nate Bargatze 20:22 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 20:23 I'd see, like, you know, Richard Jeni do a set on The Tonight Show. I used to love watching, like, the s- the comedians on The Tonight Show, and even on, like, Evening at the Improv, I used to love that. But I c- I just couldn't believe how funny he was. I was, like, blown away. Like, I thought about it for months.

Nate Bargatze 20:36 Well, being in that room and, and seeing that, where, like you said, like, people are just, like, losing it.

Joe Rogan 20:43 Yeah.

Nate Bargatze 20:43 That's pretty special. I mean, it's crazy, 'cause it is crazy to think with standup, it's just talking.

Joe Rogan 20:49 Yeah.

Nate Bargatze 20:50 It's straight up just, uh, just your words.

Joe Rogan 20:54 Yeah.

Nate Bargatze 20:54 I always find it very interesting to even when you, like, when you get your act, you know when they're gonna laugh, which is always kind of a, 'cause laughing is, it's hard to make someone laugh. And then s- sometimes you're like, you're like, "I know about here-"

Joe Rogan 21:05 Yeah.

Nate Bargatze 21:06 "... they're gonna laugh."

Joe Rogan 21:07 When I say Live on the Sunset Strip, I don't mean actually being on the Sunset Strip.

Nate Bargatze 21:11 Just that hour.

Joe Rogan 21:11 I mean the, the s- the movie.

Nate Bargatze 21:13 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 21:13 It was a movie that was in the movie theaters.

Nate Bargatze 21:14 Oh.

Joe Rogan 21:15 Yeah.

Nate Bargatze 21:15 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 21:16 Yeah. So I was in a movie theater.

Nate Bargatze 21:18 Oh. Well, that's-

Joe Rogan 21:18 Which was-

Nate Bargatze 21:19 ... even crazier.

Joe Rogan 21:19 Well, it was crazy, but it was also, it's one of the best ways to see a comedy special 'cause it's like you're in the crowd.

Nate Bargatze 21:25 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 21:26 It's like you're hearing everybody else laugh, too. Like, there's a, there's a contagiousness to it. But no, I was in Boston, and, well, I wasn't in, on the Sunset Strip.

Nate Bargatze 21:35 That would be, uh, an interesting way to (Joe Rogan laughs) do specials.

Joe Rogan 21:39 Well, that's how some people, like, Gabriel Egrace- Iglesias, Gabriel's, uh, he released a special in the movies. And then, uh, I think Kevin Hart did, too.

Nate Bargatze 21:48 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 21:49 And, but that's all recently. Most, most people recently have not been releasing specials.

Nate Bargatze 21:54 It's almost like that would be a good way to do it.

Joe Rogan 21:58 Right.

Nate Bargatze 21:58 Like...

Joe Rogan 21:58 'Cause there's a crowd there.

Nate Bargatze 21:58 ... 'cause you know 'cause it's, there's a crowd.

Joe Rogan 22:00 Yeah.

Nate Bargatze 22:01 Uh, you know, they're usually, they're not super long. It's like e- it would be a s- yeah. I would, I think I would enjoy (Joe Rogan laughs) watching a special in the...

Joe Rogan 22:10 Yeah.

Nate Bargatze 22:10 It'd be the exact-

Joe Rogan 22:11 Fuck yeah.

Nate Bargatze 22:11 It'd be the best experience you could have.

Joe Rogan 22:13 Yeah. Yeah, maybe, um, maybe that's the next evolution of standup, like, you sell tickets, like, or streaming. You know, like that way where, you know, you'll go to a place and, you know, people will all watch it together. Because, like, watching a standup special at home is great-

Nate Bargatze 22:32 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 22:33 ... but it's not as good as, like, watching it with a lot of people around.

Nate Bargatze 22:35 No, no.

Joe Rogan 22:35 Co- comedy's a weird thing, right? Like, I can enjoy music by myself, but going to see a comic with other people is way better than just going by yourself.

Nate Bargatze 22:47 That's what you're saying, an, uh-

Joe Rogan 22:48 Yeah.

Nate Bargatze 22:48 ... event.

Joe Rogan 22:49 Yeah.

Nate Bargatze 22:49 It's, it's being out.

Joe Rogan 22:50 It's also, there's that w- there's a weird thing that happens when people get in a room together. It, it happens with music, too, when you're sharing an experience.

Nate Bargatze 22:57 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 22:57 And it makes it better because there's all these other people that are sharing it with you. And comedy's, like, the best for that, because, like, when other people are laughing, like, you smile, too.

Nate Bargatze 23:06 Right. Yeah.

Joe Rogan 23:06 Like, it's like, "This is fucking funny."

Nate Bargatze 23:08 Right? Yeah.

Joe Rogan 23:09 "Look at all the fucking... Oh, my God." Like, I'll, I'll, I'll never forget when we were doing a show once and, uh, someone was on stage killing, and this lady, uh, I was, uh, I wasn't up yet. I was just sitting on the side of the road at the st- uh, the side of the stage or, uh, the back of the stage, uh, by the store at the back of the room. And this lady just looks at me and she's like, "Oh, my God, this is so funny," just looking around for people to laugh with.

Nate Bargatze 23:32 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 23:33 And I was like, "Look at her." Like, she's like, everybody's just joining in.

Nate Bargatze 23:36 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 23:36 Like, people are looking at each other on the other tables like, "Ah."

Nate Bargatze 23:40 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 23:40 They're seeing people laugh, like, "Oh." It adds to it.

Nate Bargatze 23:44 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 23:44 It a- it makes it, uh, it's a communal experience.

Nate Bargatze 23:47 I agree. I think it's, uh, it'd, it'd be very interesting to do stuff like that, like, and to do it l- 'cause it is you're selling, uh, like, that's why going to live shows are so great-

Joe Rogan 23:58 Yeah.

Nate Bargatze 23:58 ... 'cause you're just next to each other. There's, it is, you start laughing. I mean, that's like when you show someone, someone standup. We were, I was telling you before, like, with Attell, we, uh, two guys on my bus had never heard, they're not comics, but they never heard Skanks For The Memories. So we, I played it for 'em, and getting to watch them watch it, A, you get to go back through it and catch all the little stuff that you don't...... that I made, you know, that y- I forgot or I didn't catch.

Joe Rogan 24:24 Right.

Nate Bargatze 24:24 But then also, getting to watch them watch it-

Joe Rogan 24:27 Yeah.

Nate Bargatze 24:27 ... which is the most fun.

Joe Rogan 24:28 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Nate Bargatze 24:28 'Cause you get to like ... Just seeing someone laugh, that's a, that's ... Pe- people like that.

Joe Rogan 24:33 Yeah.

Nate Bargatze 24:33 People like sharing joy.

Joe Rogan 24:36 Yeah.

Nate Bargatze 24:37 That they wanna go, "I wanna just see you laugh at this."

Joe Rogan 24:39 Yeah.

Nate Bargatze 24:39 And that, that makes me laugh even more, 'cause then I'm happy. And it's, it's un- it's, it's, it's a beautiful thing.

Joe Rogan 24:47 Especially when they're laughing for the first time and never heard the joke, so y- even though you know the jokes are coming, you get to laugh extra-

Nate Bargatze 24:54 Oh.

Joe Rogan 24:54 ... 'cause they're laughing with it.

Nate Bargatze 24:56 And you're like, "You're not even to the part yet."

Joe Rogan 24:58 Right. (laughs)

Nate Bargatze 24:58 And you're watching them lose it and you're like, "You don't even know what's about to come."

Joe Rogan 25:01 Well, that was Attell back when he was doing Insomniac, so he was touring around the country and getting hammered every night, and-

Nate Bargatze 25:07 Oh.

Joe Rogan 25:08 That was a w- a wild different Attell.

Nate Bargatze 25:10 I saw, uh, that Attell at the beginning, when I first moved to New York.

Joe Rogan 25:15 What year did you start?

Nate Bargatze 25:16 I, I started in 2003. Uh, but then I moved to New York in '04.

Joe Rogan 25:22 And so, you moved to New York like one year after you started? Where'd you start?

Nate Bargatze 25:27 Chicago.

Joe Rogan 25:27 Oh.

Nate Bargatze 25:27 I moved to Chicago and-

Joe Rogan 25:28 Okay.

Nate Bargatze 25:28 ... I took a comedy class at Comedy College.

Joe Rogan 25:30 Oh, really? Where at?

Nate Bargatze 25:31 Yeah. Uh, Chi- in Chicago, Comedy College, Jim Roth. I still talk to that guy.

Joe Rogan 25:35 Comedy College?

Nate Bargatze 25:36 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 25:36 Is it a good- is it a good-

Nate Bargatze 25:37 He just ... Uh, yeah. I'm, uh, I'm not against classes. A lot of comics are ... 'Cause it just ... I didn't know what to do. You don't know what to do. It's like, they're not teaching you how to be jokes, but you're like, "I don't ..." You're so nervous. Uh, you're scared. You're ... I, I moved-

Joe Rogan 25:50 Right.

Nate Bargatze 25:50 ... to a different city. I didn't know anybody, so it was nice to just go do it and then-

Joe Rogan 25:54 What made you move there?

Nate Bargatze 25:56 I had a buddy that wanted to go to Second City and he wanted to do improv.

Joe Rogan 26:00 Oh, just for ... And you moved from?

Nate Bargatze 26:02 Nashville.

Joe Rogan 26:02 So, straight from Nashville-

Nate Bargatze 26:04 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 26:04 ... right to Chicago, and you were only there a year before you moved to New York?

Nate Bargatze 26:06 I was ... I did comedy about a year. I was ... Uh, we ended up living there two years, but it was like, I only did comedy about a year and a half there. And then ... But that was, uh, Pete Holmes was there, Kumail Nanjiani-

Joe Rogan 26:16 Oh, really?

Nate Bargatze 26:17 ... Hannibal, Jared Logan, uh-

Joe Rogan 26:18 Oh.

Nate Bargatze 26:19 ... Nick Vanderhaeghe. I mean, it wa- and like, it was, TJ Miller.

Joe Rogan 26:21 Oh, so there's a scene?

Nate Bargatze 26:22 Yeah, yeah. But we were all brand new. And then Pete moved to New York, and then I moved right after Pete. I did, I barked with Pete. His show, uh-

Joe Rogan 26:33 Explain barking to people.

Nate Bargatze 26:34 Oh, like handing out f- standing on the corner just handing out flyers. So you're just like, "Hey, we got a great comedy show tonight." And you're just sitting out there and, and you hand up someone a flyer, and then they drop it on the ground in front of you.

Joe Rogan 26:43 (laughs)

Nate Bargatze 26:43 That's what (laughs) , that's what barking is. You just basically, "Do you mind throwing this on the ground?" And they go, "Yeah, I'll do it right-"

Joe Rogan 26:48 That's a thing that really only goes down in New York.

Nate Bargatze 26:51 Yeah. It's now, it's like a business.

Joe Rogan 26:53 Really?

Nate Bargatze 26:53 I think now they start hiring people. But when I did it, my, uh ... We did it for Boston Comedy Club and my buddy, Dustin Chafin, who ... Happy birthday, Dustin. Happy birthday to you. I didn't say it-

Joe Rogan 27:03 Thank you.

Nate Bargatze 27:04 We both have birthdays today.

Joe Rogan 27:05 Boston was, uh, o- open in 2004?

Nate Bargatze 27:09 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 27:09 Still?

Nate Bargatze 27:10 It was right ... It ... I was there-

Joe Rogan 27:11 Right when it was about to close?

Nate Bargatze 27:12 I was at the very end of it. I got in. I did ... I would see Chappelle there, uh, every night, Chappelle was on The Chappelle Show. It was right before Chappelle left, when he, uh ... 'Cause he would-

Joe Rogan 27:23 When he was Walkabout.

Nate Bargatze 27:24 Yeah. 'Cause he would come ... I wa- ... I mean, I saw Burr, Patrice, like that. That's where I saw all those guys and they ... I went to their HBO One Night Stand tapings, and you saw them run sets and you saw them like, you know, everybody kinda come up. Louis was probably the biggest, like ... But still wasn't insanely Louis yet-

Joe Rogan 27:41 He wasn't Louis yet, yeah.

Nate Bargatze 27:41 ... but was, was like the one. Burr was like the one that, um, you're watching and he's like the first guy that you're like, "I can't ..." Like, you know. He ... We'd go watch him at Caroline's and no one was there. Or not no one's there, but like it's half full. No one really ... No one kinda known him from ONA or something. And then the next year is like when his HBO thing ... And then you're like, it's sold out and Caroline's is like, "You can't even ..." They were like, "You can't come watch."

Joe Rogan 28:03 (laughs)

Nate Bargatze 28:03 And you're like, "We were watching last ..." And they're like, "Yeah. Well, everybody could come watch last year."

Joe Rogan 28:07 (laughs)

Nate Bargatze 28:08 "Now you can't. It's too full."

Joe Rogan 28:10 Oh.

Nate Bargatze 28:10 "And it'll be too crowded."

Joe Rogan 28:11 Yeah.

Nate Bargatze 28:12 And so, he was like watching him just blow up.

Joe Rogan 28:16 That's a very fortunate thing that we have, and it's really good for young comics to watch someone blow up. 'Cause then, if it ever does happen to you, you kinda understand what happens, like the process of it all.

Nate Bargatze 28:28 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 28:29 Like, you get to see what it's like when someone-

Nate Bargatze 28:31 You get to see it's possible.

Joe Rogan 28:32 Yeah. Yeah. You see it's possible-

Nate Bargatze 28:34 'Cause you're like, "That dude was just here."

Joe Rogan 28:36 Right, right, right.

Nate Bargatze 28:36 And now he's not.

Joe Rogan 28:37 'Cause we always tend to think about people as being in like a static state, like if you run into Chris Rock, you assume he's always been Chris Rock.

Nate Bargatze 28:43 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 28:44 But if you knew Chris Rock when he was just starting out, like you go, "Oh, this is the process. This is possible for everybody."

Nate Bargatze 28:51 I just saw a clip today about, uh, with Chris talking about New Jack City, saying that when they've, when him and Ice-T were ... They were reading lines, reading at the re- table, and they didn't have, I guess, a star, and it was for Wesley Snipes. And then they got Wesley Snipes, and Wesley Snipes wasn't ... Like, they didn't know who he was. He wasn't famous. But then once he's- Wesley Snipes, uh, started reading the line, they were like, "Oh, this movie's gonna be like real."

Joe Rogan 29:16 (laughs)

Nate Bargatze 29:16 "It's gonna be huge." And he wasn't huge, but they could tell that like, "Oh, this dude's like different."

Joe Rogan 29:24 Yeah.

Nate Bargatze 29:24 You know. And it's ... Yeah, that was like ... You know, and that's Chris Rock and Ice-T, who are, who, you know, are not Chris Rock and Ice-T. And then you're ... And they're even like, "Oh, that's ..." They're just dudes reading at a table, and then they see Wesley Snipes, they're like, "Oh, now, this movie's about to be huge." He was-

Joe Rogan 29:40 Oh, he's a bad motherfucker.

Nate Bargatze 29:41 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 29:41 Wesley Snipes could act his ass off. He had power, you know. He was great as Blade.

Nate Bargatze 29:47 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 29:47 I really wish they would bring Blade back. What did he-

Nate Bargatze 29:50 I know they're bringing it back with a new actor, but God damn it, Wesley Snipes was good.

Joe Rogan 29:53 Wesley Snipes is, is good-

Nate Bargatze 29:55 He was good.

Joe Rogan 29:55 Great action.

Nate Bargatze 29:56 He was a good Blade.

Joe Rogan 29:57 Yeah. Very fun. Apparently though, he went off the rails. He went a little nutty. 'Cause Patton Oswalt has a whole bit about doing Blade 3 with Wesley Snipes.

Nate Bargatze 30:07 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 30:08 (laughs) About Wesley Snipes is like allegedly, uh, imbibing in certain, you know, controlled substances-

Nate Bargatze 30:15 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 30:15 ... whilst in his trailer, and just was like, is out of control, and fucked up the whole taping of it. What pa- Patton has like a whole bit. He like a whole chunk that he did on filming, uh, Blade 3.

Nate Bargatze 30:27 Yeah. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 30:30 (laughs)

Nate Bargatze 30:30 If you met Wesley Snipes, it would be. It'd be wild.

Joe Rogan 30:33 Yeah.

Nate Bargatze 30:33 Like to be around him and just ... 'Cause those, those guys are so famous.

Joe Rogan 30:37 I was supposed to fight him.

Nate Bargatze 30:39 Really?

Joe Rogan 30:39 Yeah. I suppos- they, they... Wesley Snipes was about to go to jail for taxes, and, uh, they were trying to figure out a way to make money. And they came to this guy, Campbell McLaren, who was, uh, one of the original producers of the UFC, and they wanted Wesley Snipes to fight Jean-Claude Van Damme. This was their idea, to have, like, a, a fight, an actual fight.

Nate Bargatze 31:00 How old are they at this point? Like...

Joe Rogan 31:02 (clears throat) Uh, Wesley's older than me. I was in my 30s at the time, so I gotta assume he was in... I was probably 35, so I gotta assume he was in his late 30-

Nate Bargatze 31:12 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 31:12 ... or late 30s or early, early 40s.

Nate Bargatze 31:14 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 31:15 You know, he's still fit, and, uh... but about to go to jail. You know, like, he needed money.

Nate Bargatze 31:20 Yeah. Yeah.

Joe Rogan 31:21 And, uh, we were supposed to have a UFC fight. I trained for it for, like, six months. It was crazy, but-

Nate Bargatze 31:26 You were gonna fight him?

Joe Rogan 31:27 Oh, yeah. Uh, yeah.

Nate Bargatze 31:29 'Cause the way Jon V- hey, Jon Von... he didn't want to do it.

Joe Rogan 31:32 They didn't want Jean-Claude Van Damme.

Nate Bargatze 31:33 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 31:33 They're like, "He's... that... there's not... nobody buys movies anymore."

Nate Bargatze 31:36 That would've been amazing. Like an MMA fight?

Joe Rogan 31:38 Yeah, it was gonna be an MMA fight.

Nate Bargatze 31:39 And he does (crosstalk) he's a big MMA...

Joe Rogan 31:41 (laughs) I don't know.

Nate Bargatze 31:42 Like... (laughs)

Joe Rogan 31:42 He's really good at karate.

Nate Bargatze 31:44 I don't know. Like- (laughs)

Joe Rogan 31:45 He doesn't... the thing is, like, I don't think he'd ever competed before. You know? Like-

Nate Bargatze 31:49 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 31:49 ... I, I hadn't competed in more than 10 years, but I did have three kickboxing fights, and I had, like, 100 TaeKwonDo fights. Like, I, I fought a lot.

Nate Bargatze 31:58 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 31:58 Like, I know how to compete. And so, I, I, I know I would've been, like, super nervous. But he doesn't know jujitsu. Like, or what he knows, he doesn't... I'm... you know. At the time, I don't know if I was a black belt yet. I was cl-... No, I don't think I was. I was a brown belt. But I was like (sighs) ... I was like, "I'm gonna strangle this dude." If I get ahold of him-

Nate Bargatze 32:15 Yeah, because you were younger and you're just... you're so much closer to all the, like, competing and all this kinda stuff, and then he's fighting from the stance of just-

Joe Rogan 32:25 It's a... it's a lot of things. It's the fact that I'd competed, the fact that I was... I was pretty good at striking. And then it was also like, if I got ahold of him, if I grab him, he's dead. I was like, if a brown belt in jujitsu who's really strong gets ahold of you, and you're the same size as him... He's actually, like, a little smaller than me. So if I got ahold of him, he would've been fucked.

Nate Bargatze 32:44 Dude, that would've been unreal.

Joe Rogan 32:47 It would've been wild.

Nate Bargatze 32:48 That's-

Joe Rogan 32:48 Unless he knocked me out. That would've sucked.

Nate Bargatze 32:50 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 32:50 Woo, get knocked out by Blade. (laughs)

Nate Bargatze 32:53 Just... At least it's Blade. There you go. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 32:56 Wow.

Nate Bargatze 32:57 I mean, that... What were they gonna do? Like, pay-per-view and-

Joe Rogan 32:59 Yeah. It was gonna be like-

Nate Bargatze 33:00 And it just didn't happen? It just-

Joe Rogan 33:01 You know, like CM Punk fought in the UFC-

Nate Bargatze 33:02 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 33:02 ... a couple of times. Could've been one of those deals.

Nate Bargatze 33:05 And then so... Oh, y'all would've done it at the UFC?

Joe Rogan 33:07 Yeah.

Nate Bargatze 33:07 Like, wow, dude.

Joe Rogan 33:09 Yeah, the UFC was on board.

Nate Bargatze 33:10 Wow.

Joe Rogan 33:11 I had l- lawyers involved. It was a... we went through a whole series of things. Like, uh, like, it was... at first, first it was supposed to be 50/50. Like, 50/50 split.

Nate Bargatze 33:20 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 33:20 And I said, "Fine." And then he changed it again and said, you know, like... I don't remember what the... his stipulation was. Like, he wanted 60/40. And I said, (sighs) "I don't..." And like, w- the, the lawyers were like, "You know, should we push back this and that?" Like, "What do you wanna do?" I go, "I'm gonna fucking strangle this guy, so give him the money."

Nate Bargatze 33:39 Yeah. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 33:39 "He's gonna need the money." I go, "It does not... it doesn't matter. It's not that much money."

Nate Bargatze 33:44 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 33:44 "Like, whatever it is." Um, you know? Like, the difference... whatever the difference was.

Nate Bargatze 33:48 Yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 33:49 I was training twice a day, every day. I was kickboxing with Rob Kamen. So I would go in with Rob Kamen in the mornings, who was a legendary Holland kickboxer, and I would train with him, and he was, uh, taking me through his striking system, and I was sparring and kickboxing. And then, after I did that, I would go to jujitsu at night. I was fucking exhausted all the time. I couldn't, I couldn't believe how tired I was all the time. I was just so tired.

Nate Bargatze 34:17 How close did it get before they pulled it?

Joe Rogan 34:19 Pretty fucking close.

Nate Bargatze 34:20 Yeah?

Joe Rogan 34:20 Pretty close. Like, we were trying to figure out when it would happen. Like, would it be December or would it be November? Like, what it was. And so I was just constantly training, just trying to get in shape. I'm like, "I'm gonna get ahead of this." And so, it got down to... I forget what the final fucking straw that broke the camel's back was when he backed out. But, uh, I gave him everything he asked for. Every time they'd try to change things, I said, "Okay."

Nate Bargatze 34:44 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 34:44 I said, "I'm gonna strangle him." I go, "Give him what he wants."

Nate Bargatze 34:47 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 34:47 Just, I was just... don't wanna lose him. And like, if he wants to do this... Like, I was so obsessed. And then once it was over, I was like, "I'm glad I didn't do that." Like, 'cause then I would've had another fight. Like, what if I had that fight and it went well, and then, you know, someone else wants to fight? And then I'm... and then I'm doing the Jake Paul thing?

Nate Bargatze 35:03 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 35:03 That shit will consume you.

Nate Bargatze 35:05 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 35:05 Because, uh, fighting is not something... first of all, it's not something you're gonna do great your first fight back. 'Cause I would've, I would've fought, and I would've said, "Ah, my timing was off. I felt like I got a little too nervous. I need, like, the experience." Like, the m- the more active you are, if you're competing, the more you get comfortable with competing, so the more it feels like a normal thing. Like, Daniel Cormier was actually just talking about that in one of the past UFCs, about a guy that had taken two years off because he had, like, a significant injury, and there was a bunch of other shit that happened. And he's like, "That is so hard to do." He goes, "When you fight a lot," he's like, "you go in there, it's just like a normal thing you do." Like, you're in there, you're fighting, normal. I fought two months ago. It was normal.

Nate Bargatze 35:44 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 35:44 You just go through your camp, and you're in there. But for me, I mean, it would've, it would've been like over 10 years, so I would've probably been, like, a little sketchy, like a little like, "Woo, what the fuck am I doing?" Like, "Why am I doing this?" But then once you do it, then you get the experience and you go, "You know what? I was a little nervous doing that. Let me do that again." And then, "I think I... I don't think I showed my full potential. Let me do that again." And I would've probably said, like... look, I'm in my 30s. I was probably 35 or 36. I was like, "I only got, like, a couple years left where I could physically do this and compete with-"

Nate Bargatze 36:13 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 36:13 ... "you know, legit martial artists. Like, give me, like, a couple more fights." And then I would've probably tried to fight some other celebrity/big mouth character, and, uh, and then I would've been-

Nate Bargatze 36:25 Just kidding.

Joe Rogan 36:25 Who knows what I would've do... I probably would've got brain damage more and more of this would've been more-

Nate Bargatze 36:28 Yeah, I mean, you might not be here. You'd be just-

Joe Rogan 36:31 Yeah, I w- yeah.

Nate Bargatze 36:32 He'd be talking to you now and you'd be like, "Hey, Joe. You all right, buddy?" (laughs)

Joe Rogan 36:36 Um, fine. Fine. Yeah.

Nate Bargatze 36:38 He's just fighting just random people. That's wild that that almost...

Joe Rogan 36:42 Yeah.

Nate Bargatze 36:42 Uh, I could see that, if you don't fight for two years. I mean, that's what we're talking about with comedy.

Joe Rogan 36:47 Oh, yeah.

Nate Bargatze 36:47 When you don't go up and you're not being funny-

Joe Rogan 36:50 Mm-hmm.

Nate Bargatze 36:51 ... and regularly being funny, then you lose that.

Joe Rogan 36:54 What's the most time you've ever taken off?

Nate Bargatze 36:56 Uh, I don't even know.... uh, should be the COVID. That should have been the answer for that. Uh, I took off that whole... But even tha- it had to be a month or two. That's all you took off during COVID?

Joe Rogan 37:07 That's all you took off during COVID?

Nate Bargatze 37:07 No, I guess more. I should say more. What was it, uh, it was like, I never, I don't believe in COVID so I never took any time off.

Joe Rogan 37:13 (laughs)

Nate Bargatze 37:13 Uh, (laughs) I think, uh... I did, that's the most comedy I've ever done was-

Joe Rogan 37:18 (laughs)

Nate Bargatze 37:18 ... I tell you one of my biggest years were 2020, uh-

Joe Rogan 37:21 (laughs)

Nate Bargatze 37:21 ... the most sets I've ever done.

Joe Rogan 37:22 There's plenty of open space.

Nate Bargatze 37:23 There's me- (laughs) yeah, I go, it was wide open, dude. I was trying to get off.

Joe Rogan 37:26 Everybody sees you. (laughs)

Nate Bargatze 37:26 No one was liking me. No one was there. And then, uh, there, no, I, during COVID, uh, I, I, that was definitely the most time I took off, whatever it was. I g- I guess a few months. I don't know exactly. And then stuff would, you'd have like an outdoor thing. And then I did a, then I did the drive-in tour. So we had that set up pretty quickly. And then I went and did those. And then so I was doing three, four cities a night. And my special I taped outside. And so it's like you just adjusted to-

Joe Rogan 37:58 I never did drive-in shows.

Nate Bargatze 38:00 ... I gotta do it outside.

Joe Rogan 38:00 Did you like those?

Nate Bargatze 38:00 I liked them. I l- dude, one of my-

Joe Rogan 38:01 Bert loved them.

Nate Bargatze 38:02 I loved them. It was, "Do you wanna go do them?" I don't want to go do them all the time.

Joe Rogan 38:06 Right. You wouldn't want-

Nate Bargatze 38:07 It's not-

Joe Rogan 38:07 ... to do it now.

Nate Bargatze 38:08 No, no. I'm doing amphitheaters right now. And those have been re-

Joe Rogan 38:11 Do you like-

Nate Bargatze 38:11 I like them.

Joe Rogan 38:11 Those, some of them are great.

Nate Bargatze 38:12 Some of them-

Joe Rogan 38:12 Some of them are great.

Nate Bargatze 38:13 ... have been great. So far, they've been awesome.

Joe Rogan 38:14 I heard Red Rocks is the shit.

Nate Bargatze 38:15 I have not done Re-

Joe Rogan 38:17 Bert loved it.

Nate Bargatze 38:17 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 38:17 Bert loved it.

Nate Bargatze 38:18 Oh, yeah. Red Rocks I think is awesome.

Joe Rogan 38:19 Bert just filmed a special there.

Nate Bargatze 38:20 Yeah, sure. Yeah.

Joe Rogan 38:21 Yeah.

Nate Bargatze 38:21 Yeah. Red Rocks is, uh, legendary. Like, and then, but then some of these, like I'm going to Wisconsin Dells, uh, I'm leaving tonight at midnight to ju- start driving there on the bus. And then I'll do that Saturday. And then, so I like the outdoors 'cause you can hear him- it's just going to do different things.

Joe Rogan 38:41 Right.

Nate Bargatze 38:42 Like the drive-in theaters was like, all right. Well, if I'm going, I might as well just go see what it is. I wanna, you know you want to see your act-

Joe Rogan 38:49 Yeah.

Nate Bargatze 38:49 ... kind of go through everything. And then be like, "I'll go talk to these cars." And then you got to learn the timing of that. Chicago, we did one, and it was one of the, uh, more memorable shows I think I'll ever have in my career. It was like starting to rain. It was like 45 degrees out. It was kind of chilly. I mean, there's, it's, there was f- 2,000 people there or so. It was like, I mean, so it's just car after car, and then they would laugh. And so they couldn't sit outside. People up front would sit outside, but then you can't. So they would like flash their lights and kind of honk for laughs, and they did it in a very... The timing was great. Like you're like, oh, I just gotta now, instead of hearing laughs, I'm just kind of going off the-

Joe Rogan 39:29 Honks?

Nate Bargatze 39:29 ... honks.

Joe Rogan 39:31 (laughs)

Nate Bargatze 39:31 And so then you're like, you kind of pause. You're, "Beep-beep, beep-beep, beep-beep, beep-beep." And then some lights flash, and then you gotta just trust that you know how to do it.

Joe Rogan 39:39 Yeah, I never did those, but I, I did, I took a long time off. I did, uh, I went from March when everything shut down to July, and then Texas was still doing shows, like in comedy clubs, indoors. And I was like, "That is crazy." And I remember me and Tony talking, and I'm like, "Do you wanna like try it for a weekend?"

Nate Bargatze 39:58 (laughs) Yeah.

Joe Rogan 39:58 You know, like apparently they had, they said that, "Well, we have limited seating." And we-

Nate Bargatze 40:02 Yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 40:02 ... we, we socially distance everyone. Horse shit. We got there, it was packed. The improv was fucking packed.

Nate Bargatze 40:08 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 40:08 We got, we got out there. I go, "How the fuck are they socially dist- this is not socially distance." People had their masks under their noses. It was ridiculous.

Nate Bargatze 40:15 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 40:16 Um, and I did one weekend, and it was so much fun. But then I got really high, and I thought, "What if I got COVID and gave it to one of my guests?" And even though I was testing every day, you know, we were testing really early on. I was like, "But what if? Like, what if?" It's not worth it.

Nate Bargatze 40:33 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 40:33 Like, what if, what if someone got really sick? What if someone died? You know, I started thinking about that. I was like, "Okay, I have to be more responsible." And so then I waited. And then, uh, we started doing outdoor shows. Chappelle and I started doing outdoor shows in Austin. He said, "We got this place. Let's do stubs. We could do it outside. We'll screen the entire crowd." And, uh, we ca- we definitely tested people positive. We, there was quite a few people that got kicked out of the show. Like, the, 'cause there'd be this long line outside. They would test you. You'd have to wait 15 minutes, and the positive people, they got sent home, uh, you know, maybe half dozen or so, during the, the course of all of our shows. But for the most part, people, you know, you know if you're sick. You know if you're not feeling good. And most people are responsible.

Nate Bargatze 41:20 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 41:20 And it was all outside anyway, and there's no outside transmission really. And so we had these fucking amazing shows, and it felt so special that we were doing shows outside during the pandemic. And you know, it's Donnell Rawlings, it's me, Mo Amer, Michelle Wolf. I mean, these were great fucking shows.

Nate Bargatze 41:39 Yeah, I went to one, the one, Ron White was there.

Joe Rogan 41:42 Yeah.

Nate Bargatze 41:42 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 41:42 Ron did some shows with me. So then w- you know, uh, we were getting into that. Like, it was like, "Wow, we're doing standup again. If we have to do it just this way again, that's fine." But then one night, we did the Vulcan. One night, we did the Vulcan, and we did it on, I think it was a Thursday night. I think it was Red Band's night, or maybe it was Tony Hinchcliffe's night. I don't remember what it was. But I remember Ron White saying that, "Well, I'm basically gonna retire. Man, I think I've done enough. You know, I'm gonna, I'm gonna sell my jet. I'm gonna fucking kick back and just play golf, and I'm, I'm not doing standup anymore." And then, you know, we said, "Hey, we, we got a show on Thursday night. You wanna go do a set?" He's like, "Well, maybe I'll do one fucking set."

Nate Bargatze 42:27 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 42:28 He goes on stage, and apparently, uh, he, uh, like took it very seriously, and was, uh, he had an iPad, and was like listening to old sets and going over his notes like all day, all day long. He goes on stage and fucking murders.

Nate Bargatze 42:44 Oh.

Joe Rogan 42:44 I mean, murders. Murders. And then I'm up after him, and he comes off stage, and he grabs me by my shoulders, and he goes, "Whatever we gotta do. We're fucking doing this again."

Nate Bargatze 42:56 Yeah. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 42:57 "Whatever we gotta do." Like, he was just... He was just electric, man.

Nate Bargatze 43:03 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 43:03 I mean, he felt that juice again.

Nate Bargatze 43:05 Oh.

Joe Rogan 43:05 And when he went on stage, they went fucking ape shit. Like, he's a legend everywhere, but he lives in Austin.

Nate Bargatze 43:12 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 43:12 You know, and so when he goes on stage in Austin, there's like...

Nate Bargatze 43:17 Yeah, that's, uh... Yeah, once you went back to the indoors-

Joe Rogan 43:20 Ooh, it was impossible. It was impossible.

Nate Bargatze 43:22 ... it was... yeah, you're like, "This is what it's about." Like-

Joe Rogan 43:24 And also, i- indoors in a club.

Nate Bargatze 43:26 Uh-

Joe Rogan 43:26 Like, amphitheater's great, outside's great, Stubb's was amazing, so much fun, but indoors in a club, just 300 people, everybody tied in like, "Aah!"

Nate Bargatze 43:35 Just boom, boom, yeah.

Joe Rogan 43:36 Madness. And we're all like, "Are we gonna die from this?"

Nate Bargatze 43:39 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 43:39 Like, w- is this... are we gonna get sick from this? (laughs)

Nate Bargatze 43:43 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 43:44 This was when I was already doing, like, vitamin infusions and shit though. I was holding off all the colds.

Nate Bargatze 43:49 Yeah (laughs) .

Joe Rogan 43:49 I was keeping everything at bay. I was fucking on top. I was on point. I was doing hyperbaric chamber sessions. I was doing vitamin IVs. I was f- pretty fucking healthy just to try to, like, "If this shit comes, I gotta be ready."

Nate Bargatze 44:03 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 44:03 You know? But, uh... and then w- I was hooked. Once we started doing that, I said, "Okay, well, just, I'm just gonna, like, really take care of myself and, you know, just fucking go back to doing shows."

Nate Bargatze 44:12 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 44:12 So-

Nate Bargatze 44:13 It, well, I mean, it changed, I mean, yeah. It's the, uh, being around people. It's everything. It's like going to, uh, a restaurant, going to any... like, you just, that, you know, getting people back together is-

Joe Rogan 44:24 Mm-hmm.

Nate Bargatze 44:25 ... it's, you, you, you s- everybody... you saw how much you missed it.

Joe Rogan 44:28 Well, that was one of the things that really sold my kids on Texas. You know, we, when we came out here, I was just disillusioned with LA, and I was very confused as to what the fuck they were doing and when they wouldn't let people do outside shows and they wouldn't let restaurants r- open. They wouldn't even let restaurants serve outside in some places. It was fucked. And it was just like, you, you're seeing these dipshits, like the mayor of LA, that Eric Garcetti guy is a fucking idiot. You're seeing that guy, like, telling people what to do.

Nate Bargatze 44:59 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 44:59 And I was like, "This is a disaster. I gotta get the fuck outta here." But I didn't know what to do. And I thought about moving to Utah at one point in time. I was gonna get a mountain house. I thought about moving to Montana. I was like, "I just gotta get the fuck out of this city." Like, "I don't trust these people. I don't wanna be under their governance." And then we came to LA with a bunch of friends from California that were thinking about moving to Austin. And we said, you know... and I was like, you know, "I don't know. I'm- I wasn't sure if I wanted to move to Austin, but, like, maybe that's a good place to be. I always love it here." And my fucking kids when they came here and, you know, they were 10 and 12 at the time, and they were like, "Why doesn't anyone have masks on? How come it's different here?" Like, uh, we'd go to a restaurant. We were just sitting in a restaurant like, "This is, like, normal? This is normal?"

Nate Bargatze 45:46 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 45:46 We went and had barbecue outside, and everyone's friendly and they're like... And then we went to the lake, and, uh, we were on the lake and the lady who was showing us this house, she's very smart, my friend Bridget. She's a good friend now. She took us out on a boat on the lake, and my kids were like, we were jumping in the water and laughing.

Nate Bargatze 46:04 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 46:04 And, and they're like, "I wanna live here." And my wife was like, "Ugh." And I go, "Let's buy a fucking house here. Mm. If you don't like it, we could, you know, try it out for a year." And then it became, let's try it out for a year. And then as soon as we-

Nate Bargatze 46:16 And here we are.

Joe Rogan 46:17 ... soon as we lived here, my kids immediately loved it. Like, they made friends like normal kids. Like, normal kids that don't wanna be fucking reality TV stars. Like-

Nate Bargatze 46:28 Well, I think that's the biggest-

Joe Rogan 46:30 (laughs)

Nate Bargatze 46:30 ... is to get around regular people. I've been back in Nashville for seven years, I think, where I'm from, and our daughter, we moved back when she was two, and, but it's like my family's there, and, like, she goes to school and she rides the bus and-

Joe Rogan 46:45 And your, your parents live there.

Nate Bargatze 46:46 Yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 46:46 Yeah.

Nate Bargatze 46:46 My parents are there. My wife's parents are about an hour away. Like-

Joe Rogan 46:50 That's nice.

Nate Bargatze 46:50 ... everybody's super close-

Joe Rogan 46:51 That's nice.

Nate Bargatze 46:51 ... so we see our family often.

Joe Rogan 46:52 Yeah.

Nate Bargatze 46:53 And, uh, and we're f- I mean, luckily I'm from Nashville, and Nashville's become a awesome town to move to. And, but they're... you know, our daughter goes to school, rides the bus. Like, it's trying to g- let her, like, have the most normal-

Joe Rogan 47:07 Normal.

Nate Bargatze 47:07 ... kinda like existence.

Joe Rogan 47:08 Yeah.

Nate Bargatze 47:08 And I think it's, it's good for comics 'cause we are... I'm doing normal things. I'm doing-

Joe Rogan 47:13 Yes.

Nate Bargatze 47:13 You know, it's like you're not, uh, even, you know, you're not thinking about the business the whole time.

Joe Rogan 47:18 Right.

Nate Bargatze 47:18 Like, it's not like you... I mean, even though you do think about it, you know? But it's not as... you're like, "Yeah, I still gotta go run..." You know, we go watch her play softball, and then we go do this and then-

Joe Rogan 47:27 Yeah.

Nate Bargatze 47:27 You know, and it just makes it... I think it just helps for your material.

Joe Rogan 47:32 100%. It 100... it, it also, like, it lets your material be pure in that it's just really who you are and what you d- And I never really had a problem with that, but I know some people who would be hoping that they would get on a sitcom or hoping they would, you know, get a deal somewhere and so they would tone down bits or they would change bits. They wouldn't do what's the most funny. They would, like, pull back a little bit-

Nate Bargatze 47:58 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 47:58 ... because... And they would say... you would see them say things, like on Twitter, like, "Oh, you virtue signaling fuck. I know what you're doing." Like, they're just trying to, like, signal to Hollywood, like, "I'm on the right side."

Nate Bargatze 48:08 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 48:09 "I'm in the tribe." You know?

Nate Bargatze 48:10 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 48:11 "Here's my black square. It's Tuesday." You know, it's like they, they were doing these things where it was, it was, like, real obvious that they were kinda captured by the idea of being a part of the system. Like, "If I play my cards right, one day I'll be Kevin Hart. If I play my cards right, one day I'll be Jimmy Fallon. I'll host a show, I'll do this." And so you're kinda captured by this possible promise of money that comes from this weird place, which is Hollywood.

Nate Bargatze 48:35 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 48:36 The television and film industry. Out here is none of that.

Nate Bargatze 48:40 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 48:40 And so it's free. It's just comic. It's just comedy. And the actual industry is podcasting, which is the best industry for comics. It's the best industry for comics to be themselves, and it's also the best industry for comics because you get promoted way more. Like, like, if you're...... if you're a comic and you're in with, like, all the podcasters, like, you're going on people's podcasts, you're having f- like, I was just on Theo's podcast, he was on mine. And it's just fun as shit, having a great-

Nate Bargatze 49:09 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 49:10 ... fucking time.

Nate Bargatze 49:10 Just talking. Yeah.

Joe Rogan 49:11 Just laughing our asses off.

Nate Bargatze 49:12 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 49:12 And it's like the best promotion for both of us. The best promotion for him, best promotion for me. It's like, everybody's like out there doing their thing and everybody benefits from it. It's not like this, you're waiting for someone to give you a gig thing, you're hoping someone gives you a deal. No, you're just living life and doing comedy, and you're rewarded for doing good comedy. You're rewarded for doing great sets. Like, people will talk about it, like, "Oh, man. You should've seen Nate last night. Holy shit, that's funny." And it... People get talking about it on podcasts, and it, it benefits everybody. It's not like that... It's, it, it rewards you for being real as opposed to like, you know, settling into that system.

Nate Bargatze 49:51 Yeah. It makes it, you can be yourself.

Joe Rogan 49:53 Yes.

Nate Bargatze 49:54 So you're completely yourself and which is, as a comedian, that's what you are selling, is yourself.

Joe Rogan 49:58 Yeah.

Nate Bargatze 49:59 You're going, "I am me. This is what I'm doing." And then that's what it is.

Joe Rogan 50:02 Exactly.

Nate Bargatze 50:03 I think it's... Yeah, it is interesting to, uh... I... Like, when I went to... I mean, I l- I lived in LA for two years, and then it was like going to auditions and I just was like terrible at them. Like, I can only talk like this, and I don't know how to not do this. I wasn't... Uh, I remember getting a callback somewhere and they were like, she was like, "If you dyed your, like, beard and hair just black, you would look young enough." And then I go back to the callback still looking like this. And I think I was like, "Oh, y'all wanted me to do this for the callback." And I didn't realize that, and I was like, "But what if I don't get it?"

Joe Rogan 50:36 (laughs)

Nate Bargatze 50:36 Like, I'm not gonna dye... I just dye my-

Joe Rogan 50:39 Walking around with weird black hair?

Nate Bargatze 50:40 Yeah, yeah. And then you're like... And y'all say, "No"?

Joe Rogan 50:44 Right.

Nate Bargatze 50:44 Like, I'm... Just the odds are I'm not getting this.

Joe Rogan 50:46 Right.

Nate Bargatze 50:47 So I'm not gonna go do something that's so crazy just to be like, "Nah, we're good, dude." Uh, and I remem-

Joe Rogan 50:54 Why can't they imagine you with dark hair? What are they, stupid?

Nate Bargatze 50:57 I don't know. Yeah, you're like-

Joe Rogan 50:58 How hard is it to dye... It takes 10 minutes.

Nate Bargatze 51:00 That's where you're... That's where it's like you're, you're looking f- I don't know. They're not... They're looking for something... It, it's out of your hands.

Joe Rogan 51:08 Isn't there some stuff that they can just spray... Like, when girls do, like, purple hair and they can just rinse it right out? You can do that.

Nate Bargatze 51:13 Yeah, I could've, could've probably been.

Joe Rogan 51:14 You can just, like-

Nate Bargatze 51:14 I could've probably done that.

Joe Rogan 51:15 ... spray-

Nate Bargatze 51:15 I didn't think about any of this at the time.

Joe Rogan 51:17 (laughs) That shit they do on your face though, I, I know that guys have put that, like... I don't know if it's Just For Men or some other company. They put stuff on their beard and it gives them a chemical burn on their face. It's fuck guys, face it.

Nate Bargatze 51:29 Oh, that's crazy.

Joe Rogan 51:29 I don't know which... Find out what that is. Like, there's stuff that guys do where they try to get rid of the gray on their beard. And maybe it's whether you leave it in long or maybe people are allergic to it, but I went down a rabbit hole once and I saw a bunch of dudes with, like, burned faces.

Nate Bargatze 51:45 Well, can't you not... Like, if you've already shown your gray, like if they've already seen it, then it's like-

Joe Rogan 51:51 You can't go back?

Nate Bargatze 51:51 You can't... Like, yeah, if you, like, tomorrow show up and you're n- just try to be normal (laughs) and just-

Joe Rogan 51:55 (laughs)

Nate Bargatze 51:55 ... we both have just very black beards. And we're like, "Hello."

Joe Rogan 51:59 We thought about doing that for Sober October 'cause like a- all of us are going bald. Oh, well, I'm fully bald, but like Ari's pretty bald. Tom's bald. Burt's going bald. Like, we should wear wigs, just like for the whole month.

Nate Bargatze 52:12 Oh, yeah. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 52:12 The whole month. (laughs) The whole month you have to wear, like, a wacky toupee.

Nate Bargatze 52:14 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 52:16 (laughs) Get one glued on. (laughs)

Nate Bargatze 52:18 Just a wig. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 52:19 (laughs) But you have to wear it every... They fake, make fucking good ones though. I know some guys who have toupees and you're like, "Damn, I can't even tell." Like, they... It's c- I guess it's called a lace front, where the front... You know, like your hairline, like I can see through to your scalp.

Nate Bargatze 52:33 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 52:33 And that's how it looks in the beginning, and then the rest of it is all filled in.

Nate Bargatze 52:37 I, I don't think I... I'm no good toupee person. I don't think I could tell.

Joe Rogan 52:40 Well-

Nate Bargatze 52:40 Like, I'm saying I'd fall for it. Like I-

Joe Rogan 52:41 Well, 'cause you have a full head of hair.

Nate Bargatze 52:43 Yeah. Oh, so that's why.

Joe Rogan 52:45 Okay.

Nate Bargatze 52:45 That's how you know.

Joe Rogan 52:45 "Just For Men's hair dye, users report allergic reactions." Yeah, see if you can find some images, because there were some gross images of, like, dudes with, like, burns on their face, like chemical burns-

Nate Bargatze 52:57 Oh.

Joe Rogan 52:57 ... all over their face. But they might've done... They might've used some wacky shit. They might've put lots-

Nate Bargatze 53:01 And that's where you go do that, just so they go-

Joe Rogan 53:03 Yeah.

Nate Bargatze 53:03 ... "Uh, we're gonna pass. (laughs) We're not gonna take you."

Narrator 53:06 As someone who's dyed their hair before, you are supposed to check your skin to see if you have an allergic reaction before you do everything, but-

Joe Rogan 53:11 Isn't your face like more-

Nate Bargatze 53:12 Such a dude thing that you're like, "I'll be all right."

Narrator 53:14 ... I don't know whether to do it.

Nate Bargatze 53:14 (laughs) Like...

Joe Rogan 53:15 What is going on with that guy over there?

Narrator 53:17 This one?

Joe Rogan 53:17 The one to the right of that.

Nate Bargatze 53:19 Oh, man.

Joe Rogan 53:20 What is happening with him?

Narrator 53:20 That look... Oh, he still has the dye on.

Joe Rogan 53:23 Oh. It goes horrifically wrong. Okay, let's... Oh, he dyed his beard for his girlfriend. Man's girlfriend dyed his beard. Oh, boy.

Nate Bargatze 53:31 Let's pretend you're 20.

Joe Rogan 53:34 Oh, yeah. That's what I saw.

Nate Bargatze 53:36 And then he's like, "Is this what you wanted?"

Joe Rogan 53:38 You fucking asshole.

Nate Bargatze 53:39 "Is this what you wanted?"

Joe Rogan 53:40 What have you done to my face?

Nate Bargatze 53:42 You can see by the hair. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 53:42 Yeah, what if that shit's permanent? Dude, that's fucking gr- Well, remember... Well, y- I don't even remember. But Brody, Brody Stevens had, uh, his face lasered 'cause he... Brody's a hairy motherfucker. His hair would go like a, like a wolf (imitates barking) all the way up to his eyeballs. And so he got his cheeks lasered off, and someone burnt a hole in his fucking cheek. I think he had a wh-

Narrator 54:03 What?

Joe Rogan 54:03 Yeah, it was bad, man. He was super self-conscious about it. And Brody was already, like, struggling with depression, and he was very upset by it. The guy, like, he had a hole in his face. Like, it was like a, like a large divot where this guy had fucking burned a hole in his face from moving his face there.

Nate Bargatze 54:19 And it just burns the hair off permanently?

Joe Rogan 54:21 Yeah, it's like girls do it with their cooter.

Nate Bargatze 54:23 Yeah. I don't wanna do it on my... Y- your guys could do it on their back.

Joe Rogan 54:27 Yeah.

Nate Bargatze 54:27 I don't have a ton of hair on my back, but it's enough.

Joe Rogan 54:28 I got a ton of hair on my back.

Nate Bargatze 54:29 I got... Do you shave it?

Joe Rogan 54:31 Uh, my wife shaves it.

Nate Bargatze 54:32 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 54:32 I can't shave it myself, obviously.

Nate Bargatze 54:34 Yeah. There's a thing that supposedly I was just... I've never done it, but-

Joe Rogan 54:36 You're gonna miss a patch. (laughs)

Nate Bargatze 54:37 Yeah. They just have like a... You're like, "What's up?"

Joe Rogan 54:40 You go swimming and it's just the weirdest-

Nate Bargatze 54:42 (laughs) You go to the beach, there's a fucking weird question mark on your back.

Joe Rogan 54:44 It's the worst than having a full back hair. Yeah.

Nate Bargatze 54:47 It's just like this weird-

Joe Rogan 54:48 I don't mind my back hair. It doesn't bother me at all. I like it.

Nate Bargatze 54:51 Well, yeah, you didn't... I, I had... My wife shaved it when we went to, uh, like once. It is nice. When you don't have it, you're... I think about it some, but then you're like, "I don't know."

Joe Rogan 55:01 Yeah.

Nate Bargatze 55:01 And then you forget about it, and then you're like, "Where am I with my shirt off to..." Like, you're just... Your, your... Uh, my shirt's not off enough.... to commit to it.

Joe Rogan 55:10 Right.

Nate Bargatze 55:11 It's not, like, in a situation where I'm, like, super worried about it.

Joe Rogan 55:15 Yeah. Well, back hair doesn't ... I mean, doesn't bother me. Chest hair doesn't bother me either. My pubes could get a bit unruly.

Nate Bargatze 55:22 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 55:23 But that's where Manscaped comes in.

Nate Bargatze 55:24 (laughs) Yeah.

Joe Rogan 55:25 They've, they've developed a razor specifically for your ball sack.

Nate Bargatze 55:30 Yeah, that's good.

Joe Rogan 55:30 Manscaped has the one-

Nate Bargatze 55:31 Yeah. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 55:32 ... -they call it the Lawn Mower.

Nate Bargatze 55:33 (laughs) Yeah.

Joe Rogan 55:33 It's just for your, just for your sack. It's nice.

Nate Bargatze 55:36 You have a cigar in you.

Joe Rogan 55:38 (smacks lips) Do I?

Nate Bargatze 55:38 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 55:39 Where is it at?

Nate Bargatze 55:39 Well, it's right in the middle now. (smacks lips)

Joe Rogan 55:42 (smacks lips) Did I get it?

Nate Bargatze 55:44 I think so. We'll find out in a little bit.

Joe Rogan 55:46 I have a tiny little gap there.

Nate Bargatze 55:48 I think everybody has their gap.

Joe Rogan 55:50 (smacks lips) Yeah.

Nate Bargatze 55:51 Do they? There you go.

Joe Rogan 55:53 There I got it?

Nate Bargatze 55:53 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 55:54 Okay.

Nate Bargatze 55:54 You're good now.

Joe Rogan 55:54 Thank you. Appreciate it.

Nate Bargatze 55:55 Yeah, man.

Joe Rogan 55:56 Yeah. It's ... The, the gray hair thing is a weird thing, because like, women don't like it at all. They do not like going gray. But w- a guy can go gray-

Nate Bargatze 56:07 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 56:07 ... and it, like, makes him look like a man of distinction.

Nate Bargatze 56:09 It works.

Joe Rogan 56:10 He's got experience.

Nate Bargatze 56:11 Well, I think if everybody, uh, gradually lets themself go whatever they wanna go. It's like, if you let everything grow, like I think ... I was thinking about it, like ... Sometimes you see ... I just saw a thing of, uh ... Just 'cause I moved ... Someone posted some of Diane Keaton. She looks unreal. Like, but I ... Like, it- ... And she ... I mean, she's got to be 70 something.

Joe Rogan 56:30 Well, let me see a picture of Diane Keaton.

Nate Bargatze 56:31 Uh-

Joe Rogan 56:32 Well, what about Keanu Reeves' girlfriend? Like, full gray hair.

Nate Bargatze 56:35 Oh, really?

Joe Rogan 56:36 Yeah, just full head of gray hair. Looks great. It- you know, I think ... Look, that looks good.

Nate Bargatze 56:41 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 56:42 It ... I think th- that looks better, to me, than, than this shit. (imitates creaking)

Nate Bargatze 56:47 Yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 56:48 Where your face is pulled back.

Nate Bargatze 56:48 Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, I think whatever- if she does something, it's like, it makes it look very natural.

Joe Rogan 56:53 She looks like a healthy older woman-

Nate Bargatze 56:55 Yes.

Joe Rogan 56:56 ... who's lived a, a long life. You know?

Nate Bargatze 56:58 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 56:58 That's good. I like it.

Nate Bargatze 56:59 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 57:01 Yeah.

Nate Bargatze 57:01 Dress is very fun.

Joe Rogan 57:02 What does that say about Ellen DeGeneres? Did Ellen cunt over her? Oh, she says it's- ... The set exudes happiness. Oh.

Nate Bargatze 57:10 All right.

Joe Rogan 57:10 She was nice to her.

Nate Bargatze 57:11 Nevermind. I guess let's take it all back. They let Ellen run it back.

Joe Rogan 57:14 She should-

Nate Bargatze 57:14 I'll be honest with you, run it back, Ellen.

Joe Rogan 57:16 You shou- ... Yeah, she's ... Diane Keaton should come back and pretend she's an assistant. Put on a mask and-

Nate Bargatze 57:20 See how it goes? (laughs)

Joe Rogan 57:21 (laughs) There you go. Like, "Oh, meet the real Ellen now."

Nate Bargatze 57:25 Yeah. "Guys, what's that?"

Joe Rogan 57:26 (laughs)

Nate Bargatze 57:26 Ellen just ... She gets hit in the ba- with the back of the head. "What was that?"

Joe Rogan 57:30 "Hey, cunt, where's my fucking coffee?"

Nate Bargatze 57:32 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 57:33 Woo.

Nate Bargatze 57:33 Oh, let's get a little different.

Joe Rogan 57:34 Isn't it funny how that, like, people found out that she wasn't that person and they freaked?

Nate Bargatze 57:41 But they're watching the show. Like, they let her have a very long gradual ... I, I ... That's what I don't understand. It was like, it was, people got mad and then it was like, "All right, take your time on the way out."

Joe Rogan 57:51 Yeah.

Nate Bargatze 57:52 Do a farewell season. And you're like, "Oh, I thought y'all, like, hated her." Like, I thought it was bad, but ...

Joe Rogan 57:57 Well, I think it was probably sometimes bad, and those sometimes bad moments, when you rack them up over 14 years or whatever the fuck it was-

Nate Bargatze 58:05 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 58:05 ... she was doing her show, that looks horrible. You know? She probably had some rough da- ... Look, she's a fucking performer. She's ... And also, she grew up a gay woman. Was probably ... She's- probably got fucked with, and she probably dis- f- felt discrimination and a lot of shit.

Nate Bargatze 58:20 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 58:20 She probably harbors some resentment about ... Who knows what her deal was?

Nate Bargatze 58:23 Great comedian, too.

Joe Rogan 58:24 And then it's al- ... Yeah, very good comedian. And also, there's this thing where you kinda get away with it, 'cause when you're on a set, like y- you know what it's like. Like, everybody's like ... If you're the star of the show, everybody comes to you with a bagel and coffee and they kiss your ass. And if you're susceptible to that, if you don't self-audit, you can get sucked into that and start thinking you're that fucking person.

Nate Bargatze 58:45 It's wild. I shot a pilot. I mean, I even see it sometimes on the road. But it's like, I shot a pilot, and, uh, it was ... You have, like, people that are just ... They're like ... It'll be like they bring you ... You want Starbucks. You can say anything.

Joe Rogan 59:00 Anything?

Nate Bargatze 59:00 Anything you want.

Joe Rogan 59:01 Barbecue. Get me barbecue.

Nate Bargatze 59:02 I want a bar- ... Yeah.

Joe Rogan 59:03 Yeah.

Nate Bargatze 59:03 You want barbecue. I want thi- ... Whatever you want, you're like, "I wanna," uh, "drive a Nissan Sentra today."

Joe Rogan 59:08 Yeah.

Nate Bargatze 59:08 And they ... Someone w- will go figure out how to do that.

Joe Rogan 59:12 Yeah.

Nate Bargatze 59:12 And if you don't ... Y- like you said, if you don't self-audit, if you don't realize this is crazy ... That's what I always, like, tr- ... You gotta have ... Like, I got a lot ... I still talk to, like, all my high school buddies and stuff like that. But you need people that are gonna be regular people so you can't ... If you're like, "Hey, do you wanna go, uh, to Alaska tomorrow?" And you need someone that's like, "I got a, like, a job and stuff, and, like, my family and I can't."

Joe Rogan 59:31 Yeah.

Nate Bargatze 59:32 You know? And that's insane that you're one to go do something like that. You're like, "That is insane."

Joe Rogan 59:36 (laughs)

Nate Bargatze 59:36 That is insane that I said that-

Joe Rogan 59:38 (laughs)

Nate Bargatze 59:38 ... and I needed to be reminded. 'Cause you can get a little squirrely 'cause your hours are different and you're just like-

Joe Rogan 59:44 Yeah.

Nate Bargatze 59:44 ... "What are you doing tomorrow? You wanna go, uh, caving?" And they're like, "I gotta," y-

Joe Rogan 59:47 "I gotta work, man."

Nate Bargatze 59:48 "I gotta work, dude. My-"

Joe Rogan 59:49 "My daughter has fucking cheer practice."

Nate Bargatze 59:51 "I got cheer."

Joe Rogan 59:52 (laughs)

Nate Bargatze 59:52 Then I got the dentist. I go, "What?"

Joe Rogan 59:53 My son's got little league. What the fuck are you talking about?

Nate Bargatze 59:55 "It's Tuesday? What is your life, dude?" You're like-

Joe Rogan 59:57 "You're going to Alaska?"

Nate Bargatze 59:58 "That is right."

Joe Rogan 59:59 "You're gonna get eaten by a bear."

Nate Bargatze 1:00:00 Thank you.

Joe Rogan 1:00:00 "And I'm gonna be like, 'Foul ball.'" (laughs)

Nate Bargatze 1:00:02 And then they ask you ... They're like, "Do you wanna go out to dinner on Saturday night?" Or they ... Are you out of your mind? Saturday nights are ... I can't wear ... It's the only time I can't go.

Joe Rogan 1:00:09 Yeah.

Nate Bargatze 1:00:09 "Would you like to go to lunch at, uh, 12:00 AM on a Wednesday?"

Joe Rogan 1:00:13 (laughs)

Nate Bargatze 1:00:13 (laughs) And they got ... And they're like, "What?"

Joe Rogan 1:00:16 That's the one thing about comics that you hang out with people that have that wacky schedule, you get accustomed to that. You wind up texting your friend at 2:00 in the morning. He's like, "Bro, why the fuck are you texting me? I'm sleeping."

Nate Bargatze 1:00:26 Oh, and you have no clue. You're like, "Yeah, I'm s-"

Joe Rogan 1:00:28 Oh, why are you asleep at 2:00?

Nate Bargatze 1:00:29 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:00:30 (laughs)

Nate Bargatze 1:00:30 You're like, "Who are you, dude?"

Joe Rogan 1:00:32 Did you not do a late show? (laughs)

Nate Bargatze 1:00:33 Yeah. Yeah. That doesn't make sense.

Joe Rogan 1:00:36 And you get so used to, like, waking up late too.

Nate Bargatze 1:00:38 If I texted a comic at 10:00 and they, like, were like, "Oh, I fell asleep," I would be like, "So you quit comedy."

Joe Rogan 1:00:43 (laughs) Yeah.

Nate Bargatze 1:00:44 I guess that's your way of telling me.

Joe Rogan 1:00:46 (laughs)

Nate Bargatze 1:00:46 'Cause how are you ... (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:00:48 Yeah. There's a sadness when people quit comedy. You know, when someone's good and they quit comedy, I get bummed out, man.

Nate Bargatze 1:00:55 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:00:55 I really do.

Nate Bargatze 1:00:56 Who quit? Like ...

Joe Rogan 1:00:57 I don't wanna name names-

Nate Bargatze 1:00:58 Oh, yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:00:58 ... but, uh, quite a few friends-

Nate Bargatze 1:00:59 Oh, like when the-

Joe Rogan 1:01:00 ... who were, who were pretty good.

Nate Bargatze 1:01:01 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:01:02 Like guys who were opening acts for me-

Nate Bargatze 1:01:03 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 1:01:04 ... who I felt like had some potential and they just, you know, for whatever reason-

Nate Bargatze 1:01:08 Just kinda stopped.

Joe Rogan 1:01:08 And a lot of times they get sucked into the business. They wanna be on writers and, uh, there's a good living in being a writer so, you know, you'll, you'll, you'll be getting those steady paychecks, but ...... you know, there's a few guys that I think, literally, are some of the best comics in the world, but they ... L- Owen Smith, you know Owen Smith-

Nate Bargatze 1:01:26 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 1:01:26 ... from LA?

Nate Bargatze 1:01:26 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 1:01:27 That motherfucker is one of the best comics on Earth. He is so funny and so polished and so likable. He's such a nice guy and so smart, and I'm always blown away that that guy's not headlining arenas all over the ... He should be ... Owen Smith should be headlining arenas all over the world. He's a fucking assassin. But he's a showrunner, he's, he's doing these things.

Nate Bargatze 1:01:50 Right, yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:01:51 He's doing ... But he knows, like-

Nate Bargatze 1:01:53 Which is a crazy thing to go be, is a showrunner.

Joe Rogan 1:01:55 Well, he's very successful. It's not, uh, not a bad thing that he's doing well in Hollywood, but, eh, I feel like, as a comic, I feel like it just sucks that he's not recognized for this one thing that he does so well. He's so funny, man.

Nate Bargatze 1:02:11 Yeah, I try to think, like, seeing guys stop. They do become writers.

Joe Rogan 1:02:15 Yeah.

Nate Bargatze 1:02:15 Like, I've seen a lot of comics that they, they come up and they're, I mean, like, really be doing spots, like ... You're like, it's not like it's like someone half doing it. It's like-

Joe Rogan 1:02:24 Right, like, killing.

Nate Bargatze 1:02:24 Killing-

Joe Rogan 1:02:25 Yeah.

Nate Bargatze 1:02:25 ... and fully doing it, and then they go and they get into writing. But it's ... I think people find their ... You know, s- you just kind of find whatever lane-

Joe Rogan 1:02:33 Yes.

Nate Bargatze 1:02:33 ... that you're kind of like, "All right, well then this seems the path for me in this scene." Like, that's like auditioning. I learned, like, "All right. Well, I'm gonna have to either write a show for myself or, and, or just be a standup and, like, just be this." 'Cause I, I'm not ... I don't do well trying to be someone else or-

Joe Rogan 1:02:49 Yeah.

Nate Bargatze 1:02:49 I'm doing these auditions. It's embarrassing. I mean, bare-

Joe Rogan 1:02:52 Right.

Nate Bargatze 1:02:52 You know, it's like ... I mean, it's just ... Some of them, I emailed a lady and apologized 'cause it was so bad. I was like, "I shouldn't have been in there."

Joe Rogan 1:03:01 (laughs)

Nate Bargatze 1:03:01 'Cause (laughs) I had to, like, act-

Joe Rogan 1:03:02 You emailed her? What, what a nice-

Nate Bargatze 1:03:04 Yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:03:04 ... guy you are.

Nate Bargatze 1:03:05 Well, I just ... It was, she was very nice. And she was always, like, bringing me into stuff. 'Cause I don't ... I always get brought in because it's like I, you know, I talk different. Like, I think in theory they want, like, me to, uh ... You know, it's like, "Yeah, this guy's different."

Joe Rogan 1:03:20 Yeah.

Nate Bargatze 1:03:21 And then I go show them that it's like, it's not going good.

Joe Rogan 1:03:24 (laughs)

Nate Bargatze 1:03:25 And, (laughs) and then they're like, "That's not what we thought." I was like, "Yeah." And then, uh, so I emailed her and apologized.

Joe Rogan 1:03:30 I had the, the luckiest run in Hollywood of all time because I only auditioned for two shows and I got both of them.

Nate Bargatze 1:03:39 It was at Newsradio and-

Joe Rogan 1:03:40 No, a show called Hardball and then a show called Newsradio. So I did Hardball-

Nate Bargatze 1:03:44 Oh, wow.

Joe Rogan 1:03:44 ... it was a show on Fox. I did that, and then I went from f- Hardball, I went to Newsradio.

Nate Bargatze 1:03:50 Wow.

Joe Rogan 1:03:50 So it was like, I was working, like, right away.

Nate Bargatze 1:03:53 How long was Hardball on?

Joe Rogan 1:03:55 Real quick.

Nate Bargatze 1:03:55 Oh.

Joe Rogan 1:03:56 Six, seven episodes. It was a disaster. It was an interesting situation though, because the guys who wrote it, um, uh, they were really ... Jeff and Kevin, uh, Jeff Martin and Kevin Curran. I think those are their names. Really funny guys who wrote on The Simpsons and they wrote on Married With Children, and they were really funny. But they were, like, kinda introvert writer guys who were really cool and just, like, kinda, like, kinda nerdy, but fucking great writers. And then Fox bought the pilot. We did a pilot, me and, and Jim Breuer. Jim Breuer was on it with me. And Jim and I were good buddies.

Nate Bargatze 1:04:34 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:04:34 So we had a great fucking time. And, uh, Mike Starr from Goodfellas was in it and a couple-

Nate Bargatze 1:04:40 Wow.

Joe Rogan 1:04:40 ... other people. And we did this pilot and it got picked up. And then when it got picked up, they were like, "Yeah, but you guys can't be a showrunner. You don't know what you're doing. Like, we're gonna bring in a real showrunner." And they brought in this showrunner who just butchered the thing, just turned it into this shitty, like, cut and paste, copy paste sort of po- uh, of, uh, sitcom. And it was terrible and it got canceled.

Nate Bargatze 1:05:04 That's why you need Owen Smith to go be a showrunner.

Joe Rogan 1:05:06 Yeah, you need someone-

Nate Bargatze 1:05:07 You actually need people-

Joe Rogan 1:05:07 Right.

Nate Bargatze 1:05:07 ... that's gonna go in there and-

Joe Rogan 1:05:08 Yeah, in that case, yeah.

Nate Bargatze 1:05:10 ... in that, in that scenario.

Joe Rogan 1:05:11 Well, yeah, we, we needed those guys. Uh, Jeff and Kevin should've been the guys who ... It was their idea.

Nate Bargatze 1:05:16 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:05:16 Like, they were baseball fans and they had this idea of doing this baseball sitcom, and that was what it was.

Nate Bargatze 1:05:22 Phil Rosenthal had that with, uh, Everybody Loves Raymond. They tried to get someone else to showrun him and he was like, "No." He just was like, "Nah, we just won't ..." He was gonna quit and was, like, and just stood his ground. They said, "All right."

Joe Rogan 1:05:34 Thank God. The ... I, I got Newsradio because they fired Ray Romano.

Nate Bargatze 1:05:40 Oh, yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:05:41 Ray Romano was the original character that I played.

Nate Bargatze 1:05:43 (laughs) Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:05:44 So they fired Ray. Luckily they fired Ray during the pilot, and then they hired another guy during the pilot to, to play my part, and then they fired him. So I wasn't taking Ray's job. I was taking the guy who took Ray's job, 'cause I was friends with Ray.

Nate Bargatze 1:05:59 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:05:59 So it's like, you know, sometimes something like that will happen and you think it's the fucking end of the world. But for Ray it was, like, the greatest thing that could have ever happened to him 'cause then he went on to do his own thing and it was fucking brilliant.

Nate Bargatze 1:06:12 Yeah. It ... That's interesting to ... Like, just with that pilot I shot, like, you see, like, 'cause they have to fire people and, like, you know, like, k- ... You think about, like, the kid actors-

Joe Rogan 1:06:21 Mm-hmm.

Nate Bargatze 1:06:22 If, like, they're not doing ... You gotta go tell a seven-year-old, like, it's, "All right, that's enough."

Joe Rogan 1:06:26 Yeah.

Nate Bargatze 1:06:26 And it's over.

Joe Rogan 1:06:27 Oof.

Nate Bargatze 1:06:27 And you're like, "This is a brutal world." I always think that with the pilots too, like, that's what's crazy with TV, is you go ... They spend $1 million, $2 million on a pilot and then they say no, and you're like, "Well, they shot it like it's a real TV show."

Joe Rogan 1:06:42 Yeah.

Nate Bargatze 1:06:42 There's hundreds and hundreds and probably thousands of TV shows-

Joe Rogan 1:06:47 Yeah.

Nate Bargatze 1:06:48 ... with huge actors-

Joe Rogan 1:06:49 Yeah, that never went anywhere.

Nate Bargatze 1:06:50 ... that never went anywhere.