Joe Rogan Experience #1860 - Tim Dillon

1. 0:00 – 1:52

   Comedy club scouting in Austin and the “war” with other venues

   1. JRJoe Rogan0:00

      (drumming) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out. The Joe Rogan Experience. Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. (rock music) Oh, hi, Tim Dillon.

   2. TDTim Dillon0:13

      Joe Rogan-

   3. JRJoe Rogan0:14

      (laughs)

   4. TDTim Dillon0:14

      ... thank you for having me.

   5. JRJoe Rogan0:15

      My pleasure.

   6. TDTim Dillon0:16

      Thank you for having me, sir. I appreciate it.

   7. JRJoe Rogan0:18

      My pleasure. That was-

   8. TDTim Dillon0:19

      Dr-

   9. JRJoe Rogan0:19

      ... fun, going over to the club.

   10. TDTim Dillon0:21

       It was amazing. It's gonna be great.

   11. JRJoe Rogan0:23

       Looks exciting.

   12. TDTim Dillon0:23

       It's gonna be great. I'm excited about it. I'm excited and, uh, Louie was there.

   13. JRJoe Rogan0:28

       I'm glad we got him to look at too, he has some-

   14. TDTim Dillon0:30

       Yeah.

   15. JRJoe Rogan0:30

       ... great notes.

   16. TDTim Dillon0:31

       He's been, what would you say, 30 something? I mean, you guys have been around the same time, do you know?

   17. JRJoe Rogan0:35

       Yeah, he was a little bit before me but he's gotta be 35 years in now.

   18. TDTim Dillon0:39

       So, he's been to every, every configuration of a comedy venue.

   19. JRJoe Rogan0:43

       Yeah.

   20. TDTim Dillon0:44

       So, and so have you probably. So you guys, hearing you guys talk about this place and that place, you now have all the benefit of all that knowledge to make your spot amazing.

   21. JRJoe Rogan0:53

       And we're doing it from scratch.

   22. TDTim Dillon0:55

       Right.

   23. JRJoe Rogan0:55

       So we can just adjust, change, do things.

   24. TDTim Dillon0:57

       Yeah.

   25. JRJoe Rogan0:58

       Like, he had really good notes today.

   26. TDTim Dillon0:59

       You have the money, you have the time, it's-

   27. JRJoe Rogan1:01

       Yeah.

   28. TDTim Dillon1:01

       ... you have everything that would make it perfect.

   29. JRJoe Rogan1:03

       It's exciting.

   30. TDTim Dillon1:04

       What about C- Cap City's gonna open too.
2. 1:52 – 2:39

   Texas vs. California culture jokes, almonds, and the great almond-milk argument

   1. TDTim Dillon1:52

      There's a lot of states Texas does wanna fight.

   2. JRJoe Rogan1:55

      (laughs) Texas might wanna fight California.

   3. TDTim Dillon1:56

      Texas and California should fight.

   4. JRJoe Rogan1:59

      (laughs) T- Texas... First, they wanna fight Mexico. They wanna-

   5. TDTim Dillon2:02

      California grows their own food.

   6. JRJoe Rogan2:04

      Sort of.

   7. TDTim Dillon2:04

      They have that benefit. Texas has the guns.

   8. JRJoe Rogan2:06

      They grow almonds.

   9. TDTim Dillon2:08

      They've got some good produce.

   10. JRJoe Rogan2:09

       They waste all the water on almonds.

   11. TDTim Dillon2:11

       It's a lot of almonds, but almond milk is good.

   12. JRJoe Rogan2:13

       It's not.

   13. TDTim Dillon2:14

       You don't like it?

   14. JRJoe Rogan2:14

       It's gross. It's only good with sugar. You ever have almond milk with no sugar in it?

   15. TDTim Dillon2:19

       I get the one that's, like, sweet. I get, like, cookie dough flavored almond milk.

   16. JRJoe Rogan2:21

       Yeah, it's fucking-

   17. TDTim Dillon2:22

       Oh yeah, no. I don't do unsweetened almond milk, I do, like, chemical sweetener...

   18. JRJoe Rogan2:27

       Of course.

   19. TDTim Dillon2:27

       Yeah.

   20. JRJoe Rogan2:28

       Duncan Trussell was like, "Dude, I switched to almo- almond milk, it's amazing."

   21. TDTim Dillon2:31

       Yeah.

   22. JRJoe Rogan2:31

       I go, "Look at it right now-"

   23. TDTim Dillon2:32

       Right.

   24. JRJoe Rogan2:33

       "... and tell me how many grams of sugar per serving."

   25. TDTim Dillon2:35

       Oh, it's crazy.

   26. JRJoe Rogan2:36

       He's like, "Holy shit, it's 19!"

   27. TDTim Dillon2:38

       Yeah.

   28. JRJoe Rogan2:38

       Yeah.

   29. TDTim Dillon2:39

       You know what I've-

   30. JRJoe Rogan2:39

       (laughs)

3. 2:39 – 6:09

   Raw milk, farm stands, and the Hamptons as an anti-regular-people fortress

   1. TDTim Dillon2:39

      ... been having some, some rarely, but in the Hamptons they have, like, non-homogenized, like, real cow's milk.

   2. JRJoe Rogan2:45

      Oh, it's great.

   3. TDTim Dillon2:45

      It's really good.

   4. JRJoe Rogan2:46

      It's better for you.

   5. TDTim Dillon2:47

      Yeah.

   6. JRJoe Rogan2:47

      Raw milk is-

   7. TDTim Dillon2:48

      It's-

   8. JRJoe Rogan2:48

      ... better for you.

   9. TDTim Dillon2:49

      It tastes better?

   10. JRJoe Rogan2:50

       It just doesn't last long, but it's not supposed to last long.

   11. TDTim Dillon2:52

       No, it's supposed to come in a glass bottle.

   12. JRJoe Rogan2:54

       Yeah.

   13. TDTim Dillon2:54

       And you're supposed to use it and then get rid of it.

   14. JRJoe Rogan2:55

       Yeah, you're supposed to have it for a couple days and that's it.

   15. TDTim Dillon2:57

       Yeah.

   16. JRJoe Rogan2:58

       That's all it's supposed to last.

   17. TDTim Dillon2:58

       They have really good... They have farm stands out there on that part of Long Island with fresh vegetables and then the milk-

   18. JRJoe Rogan3:04

       Oh.

   19. TDTim Dillon3:04

       ... and everything like that.

   20. JRJoe Rogan3:05

       That's nice.

   21. TDTim Dillon3:06

       Yeah. It's, it feels like when billionaires get involved you have good options.

   22. JRJoe Rogan3:11

       Yeah.

   23. TDTim Dillon3:12

       You know? So-

   24. JRJoe Rogan3:13

       Yeah, how much time-

   25. TDTim Dillon3:13

       ... that's-

   26. JRJoe Rogan3:13

       ... are you spending out in the Hamptons?

   27. TDTim Dillon3:15

       Not a ton. I mean, we're on the road, we're back and forth everywhere. But I like to go out there and just chill and swim in the pool and invite the New York guys out, New York comics, I guess.

   28. JRJoe Rogan3:26

       How long is that drive?

   29. TDTim Dillon3:27

       Uh, about an hour and 35 to, uh, two hours depending.

   30. JRJoe Rogan3:31

       Wow.
4. 6:09 – 6:48

   Hamptons celebrity orbit and party politics (Stern, Seinfeld, Elon, tech parties)

   1. JRJoe Rogan6:09

      Do you ever see Howard Stern?

   2. TDTim Dillon6:11

      No, no.

   3. JRJoe Rogan6:12

      Does he-

   4. TDTim Dillon6:12

      He-

   5. JRJoe Rogan6:12

      ... go out of his house?

   6. TDTim Dillon6:13

      He has a, like, massive... He doesn't go out of his home. He's got a massive estate where he just chills. Most people there, I go out and we drive around and stuff and see stuff, but a lot of those people don't leave their home. So, for the entire summer, they pretty much, maybe they go to one or two restaurants. They stay in their home, and then they have a, like a private beach that is, like, behind their house.

   7. JRJoe Rogan6:40

      (exhales)

   8. TDTim Dillon6:42

      Yeah, you have Seinfeld out there, um, Stern, Alec Baldwin, my friend-

   9. JRJoe Rogan6:47

      (laughs)

5. 6:48 – 11:00

   Alec Baldwin ‘Rust’ shooting and Hollywood’s anti-gun/pro-gun-movie contradiction

   1. TDTim Dillon6:48

      ... uh, who's there to relax. And by the way, congrats to Alec Baldwin, that just got ruled an accident.

   2. JRJoe Rogan6:56

      It did?

   3. TDTim Dillon6:57

      It did.

   4. JRJoe Rogan6:57

      When?

   5. TDTim Dillon6:58

      Recently.

   6. JRJoe Rogan6:59

      I thought they said that he had to have pulled the trigger.

   7. TDTim Dillon7:02

      He did, accidentally.

   8. JRJoe Rogan7:04

      (laughs) But he lied when he said he didn't pull the trigger.

   9. TDTim Dillon7:09

      People get nervous.

   10. JRJoe Rogan7:10

       Tarran Butler from Taran Tactical.

   11. TDTim Dillon7:12

       Yeah.

   12. JRJoe Rogan7:12

       Oh, what does this say here? "Medical investigator rules Baldwin set shooting an accident." Well, of course, he's not trying to kill that lady in front of-

   13. TDTim Dillon7:20

       Right.

   14. JRJoe Rogan7:20

       ... everybody. I don't understand why they're saying, but that doesn't mean he wasn't negligible just 'cause it was an accident.

   15. TDTim Dillon7:26

       What did the guy from Taran Tactical say?

   16. JRJoe Rogan7:28

       It's impossible for that gun to shoot. He showed me the gun.

   17. TDTim Dillon7:31

       Right.

   18. JRJoe Rogan7:31

       I have a video of it. I was like, "I don't wanna start trouble-"

   19. TDTim Dillon7:33

       Right.

   20. JRJoe Rogan7:33

       "... and release this." But in the video, he has the gun, not the actual gun, but the s- same model gun.

   21. TDTim Dillon7:40

       Yeah.

   22. JRJoe Rogan7:40

       And he's showing how the action on this works, and he's like, "It's not possible for the hammer to go forward and just accidentally fire." And he, like, cocks it back-

   23. TDTim Dillon7:49

       Yeah.

   24. JRJoe Rogan7:49

       ... and shows how it works. He's like, "You have to engage the trigger," and he's, like, showing everybody in this video how it works.

   25. TDTim Dillon7:55

       He probably had a g- he, but, the, Alec probably had the gun in his hand and it's just kind of fun to pull the trigger.

   26. JRJoe Rogan8:01

       (buzzing sound)

   27. TDTim Dillon8:01

       Right? I mean, if you have a gun-

   28. JRJoe Rogan8:03

       Yeah.

   29. TDTim Dillon8:03

       ... you go like, "I wonder what this would feel like? I wonder what this would feel like?" And then...

   30. JRJoe Rogan8:09

       Isn't it fucking wild that Hollywood, in general, is very anti-gun?
6. 11:00 – 20:25

   Actors as ‘blank slates,’ fame-induced insanity, and why money doesn’t fix governance

   1. TDTim Dillon11:00

      ... it's, it's one of those things where s- the actors I know that I'm friends with are usually, like, good-looking, but n- like, they're not distinct looking, and they can fit easily into any of these characters. And they don't really know who they are. So, if somebody tells them, like, "Six-year-olds should get gender reassignment surgery," they go, "Okay." And if they go, "No one should have a gun," they go, "Okay." Like, there's no... They don't have opinions.

   2. JRJoe Rogan11:29

      Well, it's also that system is set up so that you're always trying to get chosen for things.

   3. TDTim Dillon11:34

      That's right.

   4. JRJoe Rogan11:34

      So, you're always saying the things that you think people wanna hear, and you're always espousing the correct political philosophies-

   5. TDTim Dillon11:41

      Right.

   6. JRJoe Rogan11:42

      ... and positions on things 'cause y- your whole gig is trying to get people to choose you for something.

   7. TDTim Dillon11:47

      That's right.

   8. JRJoe Rogan11:48

      So, you can't do anything controversial or y- y- y- y- you can't escape those lines.

   9. TDTim Dillon11:52

      And, yeah, and we need actors. Here's the thing. You need movies, you need actors, and you need them to be dumb. You need them to be good-looking and dumb, and you need them to just do what they're told because you can't have an actor on set going, "Well, I actually think it would be a nightmare."

   10. JRJoe Rogan12:05

       Yeah.

   11. TDTim Dillon12:06

       And every suggestion that most actors have is, is bad because they're stupid. So, you need them to be exactly kind of what they are. It would just be nice if y- we could just turn down the volume on the politics and everything else, and just kinda let them do what they're...... Good for, which is to, to pretend to be other people, 'cause you need that. You can't have ... You don't wanna see me. You don't want to have the Gray Man with me.

   12. JRJoe Rogan12:33

       (laughs)

   13. TDTim Dillon12:33

       You want Ethan Hawke. You don't want ... What's the thing on Stranger Things? I can't play all of the kids on Stranger Things. It would be odd. People wouldn't like it. You can't do, like, a young adult Twilight with me in it. So, they need to exist, but they just can't talk about, you know, espionage or whatever they're-

   14. JRJoe Rogan12:52

       (laughs)

   15. TDTim Dillon12:52

       ... talking about. Unless it's about their movie.

   16. JRJoe Rogan12:55

       The FBI raid on Mar-a-Lago.

   17. TDTim Dillon12:55

       Yes.

   18. JRJoe Rogan12:56

       Right.

   19. TDTim Dillon12:56

       Yeah, I don't need, you know ...

   20. JRJoe Rogan12:59

       Don't you think that more people are aware of that now than ever? And one of the things is-

   21. TDTim Dillon13:03

       Yeah.

   22. JRJoe Rogan13:03

       ... like, the Johnny Depp trial or-

   23. TDTim Dillon13:04

       Yes.

   24. JRJoe Rogan13:05

       ... Alec Baldwin getting in trouble. We're realizing more and more that these people are insane.

   25. TDTim Dillon13:09

       Well, they're crazy, but it's also what happens, I think, when, you know, y- everything is at your fingertips. You've removed most of the struggles that normal people go through and you are just inc- you're incredibly lucky and, and, and privileged. And you, you inhabit this rarefied air that very few people do and you have, like, kinda the time, and you have the ability to go as crazy as you can. And that s- most people maybe don't have the ti- Like, I have friends where I'm like, "Thank God you have w- work. Thank God you have a job. Thank God you have a family. And thank God you don't have a lot of money, because you don't need to have the freedom to be the full version of yourself."

   26. JRJoe Rogan13:56

       Hmm.

   27. TDTim Dillon13:56

       Like, that, that can be a little bit of a problem.

   28. JRJoe Rogan13:58

       Is this an intervention?

   29. TDTim Dillon14:00

       No, no, no.

   30. JRJoe Rogan14:01

       (laughs)
7. 20:25 – 24:32

   Insider trading in Congress and the ‘misinformation’ label as a control tool

   1. TDTim Dillon20:25

      How does anything get done? When we have congress people engaging in insider trading, or out there-

   2. JRJoe Rogan20:31

      Wait, wait, wait, wait.

   3. TDTim Dillon20:32

      Yeah.

   4. JRJoe Rogan20:32

      W- who's doing that?

   5. TDTim Dillon20:33

      Pelosi.

   6. JRJoe Rogan20:34

      Really?

   7. TDTim Dillon20:34

      Nancy Pelosi and her husband.

   8. JRJoe Rogan20:35

      Are you sure?

   9. TDTim Dillon20:37

      I would guess. If I had to guess, I would say, they are taking information and weaponizing it and using it to enrich themselves.

   10. JRJoe Rogan20:45

       How is that not illegal? Hey, can you turn the-

   11. TDTim Dillon20:47

       Yeah.

   12. JRJoe Rogan20:47

       ... AC up? It's a little warm in here, Jamie. Crank it up a little bit. H- I mean, I, I just don't understand how that's not illegal. I just, I d- I ve- really can't imag-... Did (laughs) you just see-

   13. TDTim Dillon20:56

       And they make the laws-

   14. JRJoe Rogan20:57

       ... the way they ask Nancy Pelosi about it?

   15. TDTim Dillon20:58

       Yeah.

   16. JRJoe Rogan20:58

       And she's like, "No, not at all."

   17. TDTim Dillon21:00

       Yeah. (laughs)

   18. JRJoe Rogan21:00

       (laughs) And just puts the microphone down.

   19. TDTim Dillon21:02

       Well, this is-

   20. JRJoe Rogan21:02

       "Okay, bye."

   21. TDTim Dillon21:03

       Part of the reason why somebody like her might wanna stay in office forever-

   22. JRJoe Rogan21:07

       Hm.

   23. TDTim Dillon21:07

       ... is because if, if she gets out, they might start looking into stuff.

   24. JRJoe Rogan21:10

       Yeah, then they come for her.

   25. TDTim Dillon21:11

       Right?

   26. JRJoe Rogan21:12

       Yeah.

   27. TDTim Dillon21:12

       So it might be i- maybe you go, "Why are they... Why is this old..." 'Cause she's an old dinosaur.

   28. JRJoe Rogan21:16

       Yeah, 81 years old.

   29. TDTim Dillon21:16

       She's a pterodactyl.

   30. JRJoe Rogan21:18

       Yeah.
8. 24:32 – 28:42

   Censorship pipelines, digital currency fears, and platform economics (Substack/Patreon/Netflix)

   1. JRJoe Rogan24:32

      And there's gotta be some... Well, we know there's coordination between Twitter and the White House.

   2. TDTim Dillon24:37

      Yes.

   3. JRJoe Rogan24:38

      Is that Alex Berenson case? Do you know what's going on with that?

   4. TDTim Dillon24:41

      I know Alex Berenson. I know that he-

   5. JRJoe Rogan24:42

      He got...

   6. TDTim Dillon24:42

      ... he was deleted from Twitter, right? That-

   7. JRJoe Rogan24:44

      And he got back on. He won in court.

   8. TDTim Dillon24:46

      Oh, interesting.

   9. JRJoe Rogan24:46

      He's back on Twitter. Not only that, but now he wants to sue the White House 'cause he has documents that show that the White House directly contacted Twitter-... about the things that he was proven to be correct about-

   10. TDTim Dillon24:57

       Right.

   11. JRJoe Rogan24:57

       ... which is why he was let back on Twitter.

   12. TDTim Dillon24:59

       Yeah.

   13. JRJoe Rogan24:59

       But they were saying, "What are you doing about Alex Berenson?" The White House directly contacted Twitter-

   14. TDTim Dillon25:04

       Yeah.

   15. JRJoe Rogan25:04

       ... asking what they're doing about Alex Berenson.

   16. TDTim Dillon25:06

       Well, I remember with you, uh, that they said something about you too.

   17. JRJoe Rogan25:10

       Yeah, that the government needs to do more.

   18. TDTim Dillon25:11

       The government needs to do more.

   19. JRJoe Rogan25:13

       You know, Jen Psaki. (laughs)

   20. TDTim Dillon25:13

       Jen Psaki. Jen Psaki, the government should do more.

   21. JRJoe Rogan25:14

       Or that, that Spotify should do more.

   22. TDTim Dillon25:16

       So they, you know, they-

   23. JRJoe Rogan25:18

       (clears throat)

   24. TDTim Dillon25:18

       ... they believe that these are their shock troops that can take people off that they don't like.

   25. JRJoe Rogan25:24

       Yeah.

   26. TDTim Dillon25:25

       And then the people on the far left, I think, are also waking up because they, you know, are starting to realize that journalists like Chris Hedges, who is a, a war correspondent, who's a, you know, a, a, a socialist writer and a brilliant writer, his, a lot of his stuff was taken off 'cause it happened to be on RT. And they took all... You know, Chris Hedges' show On Contact, it had all of these hours and hours of him conducting interviews with people.

   27. JRJoe Rogan25:46

       Abby Martin's entire-

   28. TDTim Dillon25:48

       Abby Martin.

   29. JRJoe Rogan25:48

       Her entire library was removed-

   30. TDTim Dillon25:50

       Entire library.
9. 28:42 – 34:14

   Post-woke backlash, religion as rebellion, and the ‘old internet’ shock-content era

   1. JRJoe Rogan28:42

      We were just having that conversation with Louie-

   2. TDTim Dillon28:44

      Yes.

   3. JRJoe Rogan28:44

      ... where it's like you could see... He's s- the- the saying the green grass is coming through the snow. Like-

   4. TDTim Dillon28:49

      Yes, all the cool kids now are un- unwoke. Ma- some of them are going back to Christianity because it's the only way to be rebellious.

   5. JRJoe Rogan28:59

      (laughs)

   6. TDTim Dillon28:59

      Because e- you know, everybody's blue-haired, non-binary, talking about piss orgies-

   7. JRJoe Rogan29:04

      (laughs)

   8. TDTim Dillon29:04

      ... and that's, like, it's the cover of Newsweek, so you, you have to be, like, a Catholic Opus Dei, you know, like, doing, saying the rosary to be, uh, a fucking problem now.

   9. JRJoe Rogan29:16

      Yeah.

   10. TDTim Dillon29:16

       Like, you used to be able to just dye your hair and get a tattoo and a nose ring. Now that's like, "Oh, what? Are you running for Congress?" So now the other side of it is a lot of people are kinda going... Which is, there's elements of that that are good and there's elements of that that are not great probably, but, you know, that's what young kids are doing now 'cause they're like, "Fuck this shit." They're like, "We..." They've realized at how empty this current world is that we've created, spiritually, for people-

   11. JRJoe Rogan29:44

       Yeah.

   12. TDTim Dillon29:44

       ... 'cause it is empty.

   13. JRJoe Rogan29:45

       It is empty.

   14. TDTim Dillon29:45

       It's just very empty. It's about money and profit and everything has no history or tradition or there's no... There, nobody... E- everything's so disorienting, things happen so quickly that the pace of change is, like, making people go, "What the fuck?" And people need to situate themselves in the universe and they don't know how to do it. And they're going, "Dude, I'm... Like, this rock is spinning and I don't know what's going on." And e- every day, there's a new edict about what you can say, what's real and what's not, and people are going back to things that root them, and one of them is religion. And I think religion has a lot of positives. I mean, there's some negatives, but I think r- religion has positives, for sure.

   15. JRJoe Rogan30:27

       It's definitely a good moral scaffolding for a lot of people.

   16. TDTim Dillon30:29

       You need something to ground you, make you humble, make you realize that you are living, uh, for a finite amount of time on Earth. You should treat people with respect. There's c- a code is good, to have a moral code. I'm not saying what yours should be or not. But just the constant stuffing money down your throat, having tons of meaningless sex, you know, constantly obsessing over material things, these are probably a...... ultimately spiritually empty things.

   17. JRJoe Rogan31:01

       Definitely.

   18. TDTim Dillon31:01

       Yeah.

   19. JRJoe Rogan31:02

       Yeah.

   20. TDTim Dillon31:02

       I'm starting a church, by the way.

   21. JRJoe Rogan31:04

       That's the only way to get out of this. We need a new church.

   22. TDTim Dillon31:06

       We need a new church, and me and Caitlyn Jenner are starting a church. It, uh, it's for progressive rich people-

   23. JRJoe Rogan31:13

       (laughs)

   24. TDTim Dillon31:13

       ... that are also racist.

   25. JRJoe Rogan31:15

       (laughs)

   26. TDTim Dillon31:16

       It's important to have a, a religion that recognizes, as a gay person who doesn't really... You know, gays are fine, and Caitlyn doesn't really like trans people. So, we are the figureheads of the church, and we are ministering mainly to rich heterosexuals.

   27. JRJoe Rogan31:32

       Do you get heat from the gay population?

   28. NANarrator31:34

       (clapping)

   29. TDTim Dillon31:34

       The, the gay people get upset at you?

   30. JRJoe Rogan31:35

       No, they don't really care that much. I mean, they would if they knew more about me.
10. 34:14 – 42:17

    Abortion law: time limits, compromise, and how outrage outcompetes nuance

    1. TDTim Dillon34:14

       When do they ban abortion here? Do you know?

    2. JRJoe Rogan34:17

       I think it's-

    3. TDTim Dillon34:17

       Is it coming?

    4. JRJoe Rogan34:18

       ... already six weeks, which is basically a ban.

    5. TDTim Dillon34:20

       Yeah.

    6. JRJoe Rogan34:21

       You know, six weeks is a ban.

    7. TDTim Dillon34:22

       Yeah.

    8. JRJoe Rogan34:22

       Because if you miss your period and it's only two weeks later than that, and-

    9. TDTim Dillon34:26

       Right.

    10. JRJoe Rogan34:26

        ... now you can't get an abortion, that's basically banned.

    11. TDTim Dillon34:28

        Interesting. So it's six weeks.

    12. JRJoe Rogan34:30

        Yeah.

    13. TDTim Dillon34:31

        You know, all these issues, the UK seems to have a decent...

    14. JRJoe Rogan34:34

        Yeah.

    15. TDTim Dillon34:35

        The UK, th- they don't do the late term. It's like-

    16. JRJoe Rogan34:38

        Right.

    17. TDTim Dillon34:38

        ... there's like three months. Like, traveling outside of America, there's just a lot of things we could learn from other countries.

    18. JRJoe Rogan34:43

        Yeah.

    19. TDTim Dillon34:43

        Where we don't have to be insane all the time about everything. Everything doesn't have to be this incredibly polarizing issue.

    20. JRJoe Rogan34:50

        Yeah.

    21. TDTim Dillon34:51

        Like, there can be things where it goes... Yeah, I think, I think Germany and England, they have like a law where it's like, yeah, within a certain amount of time, you can have an abortion.

    22. JRJoe Rogan35:00

        Yeah.

    23. TDTim Dillon35:00

        After that, you know-

    24. JRJoe Rogan35:02

        Yeah.

    25. TDTim Dillon35:03

        You can't.

    26. JRJoe Rogan35:03

        That is, that's the reasonable perspective.

    27. TDTim Dillon35:06

        Yeah. Like there's this, there's gotta be a, a, like a little bit of a com- But there's no value in compromise.

    28. JRJoe Rogan35:11

        The reasonable perspective is always cases of rape, cases of incest, children.

    29. TDTim Dillon35:15

        Sure.

    30. JRJoe Rogan35:15

        All those things.
11. 42:17 – 57:54

    China, surveillance tech, Taiwan riffs, and what could still unify the U.S.

    1. JRJoe Rogan42:17

       Well, the fear is that to compete with other countries that are united, like China-

    2. TDTim Dillon42:20

       That's right.

    3. JRJoe Rogan42:21

       ... we have to become closer to them, and that's what Maxine Waters was saying, which is-

    4. TDTim Dillon42:24

       That's right.

    5. JRJoe Rogan42:24

       ... er, I mean, that's what, that's the thinly veiled-

    6. TDTim Dillon42:27

       And I've had, and I've had the journalist, Whitney Webb, on my show. She's g- who has a book out. And she said that a lot of our AI and stuff, a lot of our, our tech people go, "Listen, in order to compete with Chinese technology," which is, a lot of it's surveillance technology, things like that, "we have to have it first. Ours has to be better, and we have to have technological hegemony. And we have to sell it to the world before they sell it to the world, and so we have to become a little bit of a police state too."

    7. JRJoe Rogan42:56

       I think it woke a lot of peoples' eyes up when the pandemic hit, when we couldn't get things shipped over here-

    8. TDTim Dillon43:01

       Yeah.

    9. JRJoe Rogan43:01

       ... how much they make overseas-

    10. TDTim Dillon43:03

        Oh, dude, 90-

    11. JRJoe Rogan43:03

        ... and how, how much we need.

    12. TDTim Dillon43:05

        90% of antibiotics-

    13. JRJoe Rogan43:06

        Yeah.

    14. TDTim Dillon43:07

        ... are, like, made in China, something crazy.

    15. JRJoe Rogan43:08

        Yeah, it's crazy.

    16. TDTim Dillon43:09

        It's crazy.

    17. JRJoe Rogan43:10

        Well, I mean, all of our electronics, the, there is something highly ironic-

    18. TDTim Dillon43:15

        Yeah.

    19. JRJoe Rogan43:15

        ... about tweeting about woke politics on a phone that's made by slaves.

    20. TDTim Dillon43:18

        Of course.

    21. JRJoe Rogan43:19

        I mean, it's-

    22. TDTim Dillon43:20

        Of course.

    23. JRJoe Rogan43:20

        It's really, like, the height of it.

    24. TDTim Dillon43:22

        Yeah.

    25. JRJoe Rogan43:22

        Because that's the number one distribution method, is through phones.

    26. TDTim Dillon43:25

        Yeah.

    27. JRJoe Rogan43:26

        And, or any kind of electronics. It's th- really the only distribution method for that information.

    28. TDTim Dillon43:30

        It seems tough to beat China. And I w- I-

    29. JRJoe Rogan43:32

        Yeah.

    30. TDTim Dillon43:33

        ... really, it would... I don't know that it'll happen. It does seem like they're a tough...... it's gonna be tough.
12. 57:54 – 1:13:29

    9/11 skepticism, Pentagon footage debate, and Trump’s Mar-a-Lago raid as a trust crisis

    1. JRJoe Rogan57:54

       You think?

    2. TDTim Dillon57:56

       Ye- y- I mean, there's, there's no way in hell we're being told the truth about that day. Ah, we're not being told the truth. I don't know what w- the truth is, but we are not being told the truth.

    3. JRJoe Rogan58:05

       But isn't that one of those things where after a horrific disaster, people look for threads of conspiracy?

    4. TDTim Dillon58:12

       Yeah, and they're right too.

    5. JRJoe Rogan58:13

       You think? (laughs)

    6. TDTim Dillon58:14

       (laughs) Yeah, that would be correct. That'd be the correct impulse. Well, 'cause they don't happen all the time. So, if they happened all the time, you'd go, "Oh, this is just..." After a rainstorm, you gotta be really crazy to go, "Well, it's the government controlling the fucking weather." But when a president is whacked and they're not whacked all the time, and they're whacked in fucking Dallas, Texas, and pro-Dali-, you know, and, and, you know, yeah. And you're, and they're whacked by a guy who ends up getting whacked? That makes you go, "Oh, that's interesting."

    7. JRJoe Rogan58:45

       And a guy who travels back and forth freely from-

    8. TDTim Dillon58:48

       Yeah.

    9. JRJoe Rogan58:48

       ... the Soviet Union.

    10. TDTim Dillon58:49

        You know, when all of American air defenses are outsmarted by a ragtag group of guys who couldn't pass a fucking flight test, does that make you give it a second look? When a p- a p- a plane going into the Pentagon-

    11. JRJoe Rogan59:02

        Yeah.

    12. TDTim Dillon59:02

        ... there's not one video of that plane going into the Pentagon that's ever been released when there's 90 cameras on the fucking Pentagon? There's not one? Except one little weird thing where you go, "Look at that ball of light explode." It's just-

    13. JRJoe Rogan59:13

        What do you think, you don't think that was a plane that hit the Pentagon?

    14. TDTim Dillon59:15

        I have no idea what it wa- wha- there's 90 cameras on the Pentagon. Release one. Release one.

    15. JRJoe Rogan59:20

        That one video doesn't look like a plane to you?

    16. TDTim Dillon59:22

        No.

    17. JRJoe Rogan59:23

        What does it look like?

    18. TDTim Dillon59:23

        Show it, Jamie. Can you show it?

    19. JRJoe Rogan59:24

        What does it look like?

    20. TDTim Dillon59:25

        Get it up, Jamie. This is an old school podcast.

    21. JRJoe Rogan59:28

        What does it look like?

    22. TDTim Dillon59:30

        Um, it's just a, it's just a ball of light. It's weird. Doesn't seem like a plane. Aren't there other, aren't there other cameras that would show the plane?

    23. JRJoe Rogan59:39

        So here it is.

    24. TDTim Dillon59:40

        Here's the plane.

    25. JRJoe Rogan59:42

        Here we go.

    26. TDTim Dillon59:44

        Yeah, can you, d- yeah. Just let's play it again.

    27. JRJoe Rogan59:55

        Here we go.

    28. TDTim Dillon59:57

        It, it's, it, it does not look d-

    29. JRJoe Rogan59:58

        It ju- instantaneous.

    30. TDTim Dillon1:00:00

        It, to me, it's-

Episode duration: 3:09:53