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Joe Rogan Experience #1872 - Tony Hinchcliffe & Hans Kim

Tony Hinchcliffe is a stand-up comedian, writer, actor, and host of the podcast and live YouTube show "Kill Tony." Hans Kim is a stand-up comedian, "Kill Tony" regular, and host of the "Hans Kim" podcast, and "Other People," a live dating show. www.tonyhinchcliffe.com www.hanskimcomedian.com

Tony HinchcliffeguestJoe RoganhostHans Kimguest
Jun 27, 20243h 17mWatch on YouTube ↗

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  1. 0:00 – 1:07

    Warm-up: Jamie’s 10-year anniversary, getting “too high,” and recent hangouts

    1. TH

      (drum roll) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out.

    2. NA

      The Joe Rogan Experience.

    3. JR

      Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. (rock music plays) Before we even get rolling, happy 10th year anniversary-

    4. HK

      Hey.

    5. JR

      ... to young Jamie Vernon.

    6. HK

      Hey, that's when we met.

    7. JR

      I saw that on his, uh, Instagram today. 10 years ago, the kid took a fucking... what, you have a one way?

    8. HK

      One way flight, yeah, one way ticket.

    9. JR

      One way ticket to LA. Says, "Let's see what happens."

    10. HK

      That's awesome. What happened?

    11. JR

      Next thing you know...

    12. HK

      Unbelievable.

    13. JR

      He's young Jamie Vernon.

    14. HK

      (laughs) Still young.

    15. TH

      (laughs)

    16. JR

      He's younger than me, he's always gonna be young in that way. Hans Kim, how are you?

    17. HK

      Hey Joe. Good.

    18. JR

      Feeling all right?

    19. HK

      Yeah, I feel great.

    20. JR

      Are you too high? Don't lie.

    21. HK

      No. I only took two puffs.

    22. JR

      Okay, that's good.

    23. HK

      Yeah.

    24. JR

      Don't tell people about Detroit.

    25. TH

      (laughs)

    26. HK

      (laughs)

    27. JR

      And Tony Hinchcliffe.

    28. TH

      Yes, hello.

    29. JR

      Good to see you, brother. We've had a, we had a fun few weeks.

    30. TH

      Yeah. Like, the craziest.

  2. 1:07 – 3:03

    Columbus arena show: Dave Chappelle surprise appearance and a massive ovation

    1. JR

      This past weekend was bananas though. So we do this show in Columbus, Ohio. Uh, Dave Chappelle comes, surprises the audience, goes on stage, and it's probably the greatest round of applause I've ever seen anyone get in my life. Not probably, definitely. 100%.

    2. TH

      Ohio's own Dave Chappelle-

    3. JR

      Yeah.

    4. TH

      ... in the main arena of the main city of Ohio.

    5. JR

      In the shots, oh, play it on the big screen. Play it.

    6. NA

      ... live here at WWE 2,007, ladies and gentlemen, the amazing Dave Chappelle!

    7. JR

      This is nuts.

    8. TH

      And the whole thing is so spontaneous.

    9. JR

      (laughs) Now listen how long this goes. And this is a standing ovation. The standing ovation literally goes on for a minute. (laughs) Whoo.

    10. NA

      Let's go. Make some noise for Ohio's own Tony Hinchcliffe.

    11. JR

      How wild was that? That was ama- that was amazing.

    12. TH

      It's so cool. And it's like the, uh, it's like, it almost, in a weird way, makes me happy that the lockdowns and all that happened 'cause it made something like that that much crazier. Like, it's like, you re- I feel like people really appreciate live spontaneous insanity now more than ever.

    13. JR

      Yes, for sure. They, they, they... well, it was just an awesome moment, you know? It was just a, a great moment.

    14. TH

      Yeah.

  3. 3:03 – 4:42

    Combat-sports binge: ADCC, Canelo–GGG, and brutal UFC cuts (and why MMA ruins boxing)

    1. JR

      He just decides to roll in, come up. And then we all went to Vegas. So then we all went to see the Canelo Alvarez fight. You and I also saw Abu Dhabi, so we saw Gordon Ryan dominate at Abu Dhabi. And then we went to see two of the craziest fucking UFC fights I've ever seen.

    2. TH

      Yeah.

    3. JR

      Gregory Rodriguez and, uh, Chidi, uh, Njokuani, which was a crazy fight that went back and forth until Rodriguez caught him, and Rodriguez had the worst cut I've ever seen in my life. And then Song Yadong, the guy who fights after him against Cory Sandhagen, also has a horrific cut.

    4. TH

      And there was a massive cut in the fight just before that with, uh, Fili, and he had blood all over him just from having, choking out the other guy that was on top of him, bleeding. There was blood the whole, the whole time.

    5. JR

      Yeah, it was a wild three fights. That's right, we saw that fight too. We saw the last round of that fight live.

    6. TH

      Yeah.

    7. JR

      Whew.

    8. TH

      But that cut that Rodriguez had was absolutely insane.

    9. JR

      Insane. The thing about that experience, though, I think we did it in the wrong order. I think, uh, it should've... like, Abu Dhabi was amazing. Abu Dhabi you can kind of put anywhere, but you ki- you kinda have to put boxing before MMA or it ruins boxing for you.

    10. TH

      Totally.

    11. JR

      It just doesn't feel the same.

    12. TH

      Right.

    13. JR

      It's just... it's, it's great, don't get me wrong.

    14. TH

      It's like-

    15. JR

      I'm a boxing fan, I was super happy to be there, it was a wild fight, but it's just not, not the same.

    16. TH

      Yeah, it's like getting a hand job after a gang bang.

    17. JR

      (laughs)

    18. TH

      It's like, I didn't really need that. Sorta had that earlier, but better.

    19. JR

      (laughs)

    20. TH

      UFC is just so advanced now.

  4. 4:42 – 23:19

    Canelo fight spectacle: anthems, Mexican Independence energy, mariachi, and ringside seat chaos

    1. JR

      The other thing that boxing does is they play the national anthems. They played three national anthems. And it's like, good Lord. So they play the Kazakhstan national anthem, and then the dude says, you know, "Go, Triple G." And everybody's like, "Fuck you."

    2. TH

      (laughs)

    3. JR

      This is Me- Mexican Independence Weekend, man.

    4. TH

      Yeah.

    5. JR

      And then, um, then they play the, uh, Mexican national anthem, everybody goes crazy and they sing along, which was pretty dope. 'Cause like, when you're a place that's that big and it's all, like... I mean, it had to be at least half Mexicans, right?

    6. TH

      (laughs) Oh that's... yeah, at least 70%.

    7. JR

      At least.

    8. TH

      Yeah.

    9. JR

      Whatever the number was.

    10. TH

      Yeah.

    11. JR

      So when these songs were playing, like when Canelo has his Walkout song, which is also in Spanish, or when there's, they're singing the Mexican Independence Day song, they're singing this song, the Me- Mexican national anthem rather, they're singing this song in Spanish all together. So there's thousands of people singing along.

    12. TH

      (laughs)

    13. JR

      (laughs)

    14. TH

      Before the fight started, I saw in the stands there was like 30 or 40 seats that were blocked off that were just completely empty in this sea of humans, and I'm like, the performer in me is like, "Well, why would they lose that many seats? Why would they possibly... where are those people? What bus didn't make it here?"

    15. JR

      I thought the exact same thing.

    16. TH

      You saw it?

    17. JR

      I thought that maybe-

    18. TH

      Yeah.

    19. JR

      ... they could get burned by the fireworks.

    20. TH

      Right.

    21. JR

      That was my first thought.

    22. TH

      Yeah. And then it's Canelo's entrance, (laughs) and the lights go off, pop back on, and there's a whole mariachi band playing. (laughs)

    23. JR

      A full band playing for Canelo as he comes out. I, I legitimately thought that that was probably where the fireworks were and people could get fucked up by those fireworks.

    24. TH

      Yeah.

    25. JR

      'Cause, you know, people ha- have been fucked up by fireworks in, uh, fight entrances before, pretty bad, to the point where they got burns all over their body and they, they, they couldn't fight. I know that happened in Pride. In Pride, the dude got really cooked. He was a Brazilian guy. (inhales deeply) Mm. God, I don't remember his name, but he was an early, early pioneer of MMA. And he was fighting in, in Pride and he got torched by the fireworks. You outta here?

    26. NA

      I think this is from the fight we just saw.

    27. JR

      Oh, yeah. This is the one from the fight we just saw. This is the, uh, that's the mariachi band. See, I thought those seats behind them were w- like, people could get hit with those fireworks.

    28. NA

      Yeah. Maybe.

    29. JR

      'Cause you see how they blew him off? They blew off a lot of, all that shit. I was like, "You can't sit under that."

    30. TH

      Yeah, it would've been an obstructed view from that screening.

  5. 23:19 – 28:24

    Canelo’s wrist injury, recovery science, and why “real” injuries change how we view sports

    1. JR

      Watching all three of those things. Watching the UFC, watching, um, Abu Dhabi, watching the Canelo-Alvarez fight. They say Alvarez fucked his wrist up. He's gonna be out for as long as a year.

    2. TH

      Wow.

    3. JR

      Yeah. There's something wrong with his wrist. See, see what the fuck that is. There's some... That was cool, though, being there while, uh, you know, it's Mexican Independence weekend. People are so fired up.

    4. TH

      Yeah. He probably hurt his wrist counting all the money that he made.

    5. JR

      (laughs)

    6. HK

      (laughs)

    7. TH

      (laughs)

    8. JR

      "Okay. It hurts everywhere, everywhere." Canelo said. "I had the wrist issue since the Caleb Plant fight. I was like, it's okay. Later, later. Then it started really bad. I need surgery. It was really bad during the fight. It's not broken. It's a meniscus injury, a wrist injury, but it's not broken." Canelo's doctor spoke of the amount of rehabilitation time that Canelo will need. Uh, he has a TFCC tear, triangular fibrocartilage complex tear, which is a piece of cartilage in the wrist which affects the body's ability to mobilize that joint without feeling impingement and sharp pain. If he has surgery, depending on what the surgeon decides, probably six to eight to 12 weeks, depending on the rehabilitation if it's successful. If it's successful.

    9. TH

      I don't know if I trust a doctor that says six to eight to 12 weeks.

    10. JR

      (laughs)

    11. TH

      Why wouldn't he just say six to 12? Why is that eight there?

    12. JR

      Well, whatever is gonna happen, they're gonna get him on, like, the best stem cells possible, and they're gonna... I'm sure they're gonna-

    13. TH

      Yeah.

    14. JR

      ... juice him up.

    15. TH

      Yeah.

    16. JR

      And they'll try to help it heal.

    17. TH

      Heal him up with some of that-

    18. JR

      Heal that up. Some of that...

    19. TH

      Some of that Topo Chico.

    20. JR

      (laughs)

    21. HK

      (laughs)

    22. TH

      (laughs) Some of that sweet, sweet...

    23. JR

      Just because, I mean, that's...... the biggest boxer in the world. They're gonna take care of the, the thing he needs more than anything, it's his wrists.

    24. TH

      Yeah.

    25. JR

      You know? Your hands and your wrists.

    26. TH

      Who does he even have left to fight?

    27. JR

      Benavidez. There's, there's a few guys. There's a few guys. And there's also a rematch with Bivol, if he wants to go back up. But if this wrist has been fucking with him since the Caleb Plant fight, that kind of makes a lot of sense. Wrist injus- injuries are really rough. I had a wrist injury once. W- it... I lasted, for like, two years, it hurt me. It was a really annoying one. And then, I finally got something called, uh... God, what do they call it? Prolotherapy, that's what it is. Where they, uh, they're injecting things into your tendons and ligaments that make them swell up, and it strengthens them. Very interesting stuff. I was like... Uh, uh, ih, geh- Uh, this was, like, 19... 98 or some shit like that.

    28. TH

      Mm.

    29. JR

      It's when I fi- finally got it done, and when I got it done, I finally fixed it. That was the only thing that ever fixed it. It would just keep coming back, you know. So if this guy's got that, way worse, it sounds like. He's got meniscus tears. Meniscus tears in your fucking wrist? Oh. And you have to punch people in the head?

    30. TH

      (laughs)

  6. 28:24 – 30:05

    Live sports vs TV: soccer’s stadium magic, basketball’s live drawbacks, and LeBron proximity stories

    1. JR

      (inhales deeply) It's just, when you see soccer live, it's like we were talking about jujitsu, we went to see, um, soccer live here in Austin. We went to the, uh, that stadium.

    2. TH

      Mm-hmm.

    3. JR

      And-

    4. TH

      Yeah, I've been to one. It's amazing.

    5. JR

      It's so fun.

    6. TH

      Yeah.

    7. JR

      It's fun. And the sport is fun to watch. It's... And it's, it's very impressive. Like, these dudes are in phenomenal shape 'cause they are hauling ass-

    8. TH

      (laughs)

    9. JR

      ... all over that field and then sprinting back the other way, then sprinting back this way. It's like, "Whoo." The cardio involved in being a soccer player is off the charts.

    10. TH

      Yeah.

    11. JR

      That's got to be one of the most cardio-intensive sports. Right? You think?

    12. TH

      It's such a big field.

    13. JR

      Huge.

    14. TH

      It's like a football field. And they're cut-... There's no breaks.

    15. JR

      Yeah, do they have any breaks at all?

    16. TH

      No.

    17. JR

      Do-... I mean, they have, like, little short moments where they, like, talk about shit and-

    18. TH

      (laughs)

    19. JR

      ... blow a whistle or something.

    20. TH

      I don't think they even have timeouts.

    21. NA

      Yeah (laughs) .

    22. JR

      (laughs)

    23. TH

      Oh, when the ball goes out of bounds, then you can sub in players.

    24. JR

      We know so little about soccer.

    25. TH

      (laughs)

    26. JR

      We got to get Ian Edwards on here to explain it.

    27. TH

      That's a sport that is a thousand times better live than it is on a TV.

    28. JR

      Yeah.

    29. TH

      That, hockey, and then, the... Some of the other ones are backwards. It's like, basketball, in my opinion, kind of sucks live. Same sort of with football. You can't really... Depending on where you are in a stadium, you can't really see what's going on. The screens don't do any justice in football.

    30. JR

      Did you say basketball sucks live?

  7. 30:05 – 35:09

    Basketball feet, shoe culture, and the weird reality of blown-out sneakers

    1. TH

      I'm the same age and from the same area as LeBron James. Our high schools are rival schools.

    2. NA

      I knew we were gonna play them.

    3. TH

      Goofball.

    4. JR

      Did you play against LeBron James in high school? Is that what you just alluded to? (laughs)

    5. NA

      (laughs)

    6. TH

      I wrestled... Wrestling and-

    7. NA

      I think so.

    8. JR

      I heard, but-

    9. TH

      ... wrestling and basketball are both winter sports, so we went against each other in both. He's watched me wrestle and I've watched him play basketball. We're both the Fighting Irish, Akron, St. Vincent-St. Mary in Ursuline.

    10. JR

      Really?

    11. TH

      Yeah.

    12. JR

      Do you remember him?

    13. TH

      Oh, God, yes. He was the news story. He was literally on the local news at-

    14. JR

      Yeah.

    15. TH

      ... like, 15 every single night.

    16. JR

      He was on TV.

    17. NA

      Yeah.

    18. TH

      Yeah.

    19. NA

      Sports Illustrated when we were in high school.

    20. TH

      Yeah.

    21. JR

      When you were in high school?

    22. NA

      Yeah.

    23. JR

      Wow.

    24. TH

      Yeah. And he was that good, by the way. He was, like, that good. He was exactly that good. It was crazy.

    25. JR

      That dude spends over a million dollars a year just on, like, massage and therapy-

    26. NA

      (inhales deeply)

    27. JR

      ... and taking care of his body.

    28. TH

      He needs to.

    29. JR

      Smart. Smart.

    30. TH

      His toes are so fucked up.

  8. 35:09 – 38:15

    ‘Make it in America’ meets toxic jobs: glue fumes, robots, and Michelangelo myths

    1. JR

      Poison-consuming people. You guys know the story of, uh, Michelangelo when he was painting the Sistine Chapel?

    2. TH

      No.

    3. JR

      He went blind.

    4. TH

      (laughs)

    5. JR

      'Cause he's, he's painting lying on his back, and the droplets of blood are getting into his eyes.

    6. TH

      The paint.

    7. JR

      And he's, like, losing his vision.

    8. TH

      Yeah. That's crazy.

    9. JR

      Isn't there, like, uh, some stories on it?

    10. TH

      I just typed it in. It says he had, uh, problems with his vision, but he did not go blind.

    11. JR

      He did not go blind. Oh, I'm exaggerating. (laughs)

    12. TH

      (laughs)

    13. JR

      While Michelangelo was filming the ceiling of the Sistine Chapel in 1512, he complained of problems with his vision that he thought to have been an, the eye disease transitory... How do you say that?

    14. TH

      Transitory.

    15. JR

      Transitory nystagmus, nystagmus caused by, by prolonged eye strain. Huh. Why did I hear that he got paint dripped in his eyes, though?

    16. TH

      Because it's like-

    17. JR

      'Cause they're just talking about the strain. I can see the strain there. Michelangelo reluctantly accepted the commission, spending four years of his life perched on scaffolding with his brush in his hand. See what it says there.

    18. TH

      Yeah, I mean, it, it, I clicked on it, it said, "Who went by blind painting the Sistine Chapel?" But, uh, maybe it says that.

    19. JR

      Hmm. Oh, contrary to popular belief, Michelangelo painted the Sistine Chapel in a-

    20. TH

      Standing position.

    21. JR

      ... standing position. While they picture Michelangelo creating legendary, uh, frescoes, most people assume he was lying down. But, in fact, the artist and his assistants used wooden scaffolds that allowed them to stand upright and reach above their heads. Michelangelo himself designed the unique system of platforms which were attached to the walls with brackets. The impression that Michelangelo painted on his back might have come from si- uh, 1965 film, The Agony and the Ecstasy, in which Charlton Heston portrayed the genius behind the Sistine Chapel ceiling. Can you show a photo of the Sistine Chapel?

    22. TH

      Mm-hmm.

    23. JR

      The work that he did, the, like, the, just the, the overall beauty...... of these images that this dude just painted on the top of this church building over four years.

    24. TH

      Oh my God.

    25. JR

      I mean, it's really incredible stuff. And it's incredible because it's like, you know that his hand touched that, and then all this time has gone by and you could still see it. It's like all that art that they have over there, it's so fascinating. Such a strange, strange thing that they have these enormous buildings that are just filled with art from, like, the 1500s and the 1600s and the 1700s. It makes you realize, like, how young America is. God, we're so young.

    26. TH

      (laughs)

    27. Yeah.

    28. JR

      We're so young.

    29. TH

      We're like-

    30. JR

      And we're, we're already on meth.

  9. 38:15 – 50:51

    Puerto Rico, ‘indigenous’ timelines, and the Pangea reality check (plus dinosaur ‘mummy’ finds)

    1. TH

      I went to Puerto Rico. It's beautiful over there. And that's an old school, very old school. They, uh, literally have, I think it's called... Old... Yeah, it's called Old San Juan 'cause they, like, left it.

    2. JR

      Mm.

    3. TH

      I mean, the brick in the streets is like crazy. You know, cars just (imitates engine revving) . It's like only... It's made out of potholes and, uh, the buildings and everything. It's so beautiful over there.

    4. JR

      Yeah, that place is... What... W- when was Puerto Rico first settled?

    5. TH

      I have no idea.

    6. (laughs)

    7. I smoked pot the whole time I was there.

    8. (laughs)

    9. JR

      Did you?

    10. TH

      Yeah.

    11. JR

      In Puerto Rico?

    12. TH

      Oh, yeah.

    13. JR

      What's the... Is there... Is it legal there?

    14. TH

      It... Dude, it's one of the... It's America. You can do anything.

    15. JR

      Mm.

    16. TH

      I don't know what the actual laws are. They're too busy. There's literally, like, gunshots going off all the time. So they're not worried about anything.

    17. JR

      They have no power right now.

    18. TH

      Yeah.

    19. JR

      Yeah. Yeah, you told me about it on the plane. Uh, Columbus laro- uh... Well, whatever the...

    20. TH

      They lost it.

    21. JR

      Lost it.

    22. TH

      1493.

    23. Columbus.

    24. JR

      Uh, well, Columbus arrived in Puerto Rico during his second voyage in 1943. Or 1493, rather. Uh, the island inhabited by the Taíno, Taíno? They called it... Hmm. Borikén. Borikén. Spelled a variety of ways by different writers of the day. Columbus named his... What'd he name this what?

    25. TH

      Uh, he named an island San Juan.

    26. JR

      San Juan Bautista in honor of Saint John the Baptist. Have reported also 'cause... So, so in the 1400s, it sounds like people started colonizing it.

    27. TH

      I just... Have you ever heard of Corvo Island in the Pacific?

    28. JR

      No.

    29. TH

      I just saw a video about this. Um, it looks like this.

    30. JR

      Were there people living on Puerto Rico before...

  10. 50:51 – 54:23

    Humans vs Earth: pollution, burning rivers, and why environmental damage feels ‘normal’

    1. JR

      Yeah. If you, you compare us to any other animal on the planet, we do the worst damage.

    2. HK

      (laughs)

    3. JR

      No one even comes close.

    4. TH

      Right.

    5. JR

      Like people are talking about methane from cow farts. You know, because that's like an, it's actually an issue. It's from burps, right? Cow burps. But, so, that's something that's a fraction of the stuff we do.

    6. TH

      Oh, yeah.

    7. JR

      We pollute rivers.

    8. TH

      Yeah.

    9. JR

      We just, when no one's looking, human beings just take their industrial waste and throw it in the water.

    10. TH

      (laughs)

    11. JR

      Fuck you. (laughs)

    12. TH

      Did you ever see that Teflon movie with, uh, Mark Ruffalo?

    13. JR

      No. What is it?

    14. TH

      Man, I can't remember right now.

    15. HK

      Dark Waters?

    16. TH

      Yeah.

    17. JR

      What is it?

    18. TH

      But it is very interesting.

    19. HK

      It's about, uh, the waters in the West Virginia or Ohio Valley.

    20. TH

      Yeah, the city where the Teflon, uh-

    21. JR

      Oh, they polluted the waters?

    22. TH

      ... paint company. Oh, big time, and like, the rain and the-

    23. JR

      Oh.

    24. TH

      ... everything.

    25. JR

      Oh. Did you ever see that one river in China that's a dark blue because they make blue jeans there?

    26. TH

      (laughs)

    27. HK

      (laughs)

    28. JR

      Bro.

    29. HK

      Oh, no.

    30. JR

      Yeah, when you're getting all your sexy blue jeans on, Chiz, this is what you do to that river.

  11. 54:23 – 1:00:32

    Media economics and tech habits: paywalls, creator platforms, iPhone tribalism, and translation earbuds

    1. JR

      You know what I think? I think if I was a writer right now, I would, I would want to get on something, some sort of independent publishing platform immediately. Because I think that those publishing platforms, people are gonna like develop followers to the, the same way you have followers on Instagram and followers on YouTube, people are gonna develop f- like big time follow, and already have on like Substack and stuff like that, but it's gonna be like podcasting.

    2. TH

      Yeah.

    3. JR

      Where it's gonna come to a point in time where there's too many of them. And if you're good, even if you're good, but if you're new, you're getting started out, it's like there's too many.

    4. HK

      Yeah.

    5. JR

      Now, 'cause it seems like that with podcasting now. Like I see people that are jumping into the podcast world, and it seems like there's too many choices. It's like if you were trying to start right now, it's like, I'm not saying you can't make it, but it's not like if you started three years ago.

    6. TH

      Right.

    7. JR

      If you started three years ago, it was still like people were looking for funny new things to ... Now there's so much to pay attention to. It's hard to get people's attention.

    8. TH

      Yeah. And the ones, even if you start now, the ones that started 10 years ago, uh, are, have been doing it 10 years and have gotten 10 years better at what they do.

    9. JR

      That's, that's definitely a factor too. But I think another factor is just an overwhelming amount of choices. It's just so many fucking choices.It's so hard to get people to, to... Like, try getting people to switch from an Apple phone to an Android phone.

    10. TH

      I don't even-

    11. JR

      Try it, try it on 'em.

    12. TH

      I don't even entertain the conversation.

    13. HK

      (laughs)

    14. JR

      Try to, try to get them to do that. You know how hard that-

    15. HK

      (laughs)

    16. JR

      (laughs)

    17. TH

      (laughs) I like trying a bunch of different stuff. You give me a crazy food, I'll try it, but I will not even find out. People are like, "This one flips closed." I'm like, "I don't give a-"

    18. HK

      (laughs)

    19. JR

      (laughs)

    20. TH

      "... anything."

    21. HK

      You get a number pad above the keyboard.

    22. TH

      Yeah. Cool. Is it an iPhone yet? 'Cause that... I'd buy it if it was an iPhone.

    23. JR

      Isn't that wild? Like, how'd they figure that out?

    24. TH

      No one wants to be the guy with a green blob, right? Ruin a whole group text.

    25. JR

      Gordon does that.

    26. HK

      (laughs)

    27. TH

      Really?

    28. JR

      Gordon has a... Yeah, he has the Samsung.

    29. TH

      I will straighten him out.

    30. HK

      (laughs)

  12. 1:00:32 – 1:05:12

    Roger Waters live show: spectacle, politics, and who gets ‘artistic permission’ to be extreme

    1. TH

      I'm going to see Roger Waters on October 6th.

    2. JR

      Oh.

    3. TH

      I can say that for sure.

    4. JR

      Shit.

    5. TH

      Have you ever seen him live? You know they invented, like, colors and curtains? Like, anything other than a black curtain was them, on top of all the music that they made. Lasers, inflatables, colors-

    6. JR

      Mm.

    7. TH

      ... different colored lights. Like, there wasn't... That wasn't a thing.

    8. JR

      It's all him?

    9. TH

      Yeah. And so, what's cool about that is that he still has that type of mentality of like, what's next? What is... What's something entertaining visually that nobody's ever seen to go along with this diabolical music? And so, you know, the last time I saw him a few years ago, they had these 3D, uh, hologram things that, like... I don't... I can't even explain it with words. But another thing they have is inflatables that aren't inflatables. They're now drones with reflectors on them and things. Yeah, I guess I can't explain that either.

    10. HK

      (laughs)

    11. TH

      (laughs) But it's, it's so crazy that I can't explain it.

    12. JR

      I've seen the imagery-

    13. TH

      Yeah.

    14. JR

      ... 'cause, uh, you know, they did that CNN interview with him, where they showed the imagery that he, he always had this, uh, hilarious imagery of Trump, like Trump as a pig and like-

    15. TH

      Yeah.

    16. JR

      Right?

    17. TH

      He goes after everybody, though.

    18. JR

      Everybody. But he went after Biden.

    19. TH

      Yeah.

    20. JR

      And that's what CNN had took option with, and then they had-

    21. TH

      Yeah.

    22. JR

      ... a little bit of a discussion.

    23. TH

      Yeah.Yeah, it's interesting to hear a different, uh, perspective of a guy whose father actually died in World War II and, you know, has lived that life of being, you know, he's, they've been doing arenas for, like, 50 years or something crazy.

    24. JR

      Well, I think he has a real problem with the hypocrisy of people never admitting what the United States has done, while talking about what other countries have done. And that, especially when they're talking about things like China, like how little... What is he wearing?

    25. NA

      It's his live concert.

    26. TH

      Well, it's a-

    27. JR

      This is his live concert? He's just dressed-

    28. TH

      Oh, my God. (laughs)

    29. The wall is about World War II.

    30. JR

      And so he acts it out?

  13. 1:05:12 – 1:15:27

    Election skepticism and ‘acceptable questions’: fraud, audits, IDs, and paper-ballot vulnerabilities

    1. JR

      Even if they did steal the election, what's really amazing, like, and I'm not saying anybody stole the election. What I am saying is that even if they did steal the election, what's really amazing is that people have figured a way to make it ridiculous to think that anybody would steal an election. And it's sh- it's like they have four-year memories.

    2. TH

      Right.

    3. JR

      Like people forget.

    4. TH

      Right.

    5. JR

      Because they s- they always said that Bush stole it from Kerry. They-

    6. NA

      Or, uh, Gore.

    7. JR

      That was Gore. Oh, Gore, right. That Bush stole it from Gore. But that, um, Obama stole it from Kerry, right? Wasn't that one of 'em?

    8. TH

      I never heard of that.

    9. NA

      Yeah, I think you're right it was Bush-Kerry. That was right.

    10. JR

      Was it Bush? It was Bush-Kerry.

    11. TH

      Yeah, yeah.

    12. NA

      It was Hagen-Chad's thing was first, and then it was Bush-Kerry in '04.

    13. JR

      Oh, okay.

    14. NA

      They'll just get to that, too. There's gonna be, like, an issue with all of 'em.

    15. JR

      But the Bush-Kerry one, like, pe- people really wanted to look into that one.

    16. NA

      Yeah, there was, like, stuff. There's some evidence that said-

    17. TH

      Really? Right.

    18. NA

      ... in, in Iowa is where it happened, with the voting machines and all that shit.

    19. JR

      Okay, and then there's 2016, where the White House press secretary in 2016 wrote that they stole the election.

    20. TH

      (laughs)

    21. JR

      She wrote it. And do you ever see her confronted on it?

    22. NA

      No. (laughs)

    23. JR

      You gotta see this. It's hilarious. 'Cause that guy Peter Doocy from Fox News, who always asks the best questions. Like, if you want that show to be entertaining, you want that guy to ask questions.

    24. TH

      (laughs)

    25. JR

      'Cause he always catches 'em. And so he brings up a tweet of hers from 2016, where she says the election is stolen, while she's talking about how important it is not entertaining any ideas of the 2020 election being stolen. Like, what?

    26. TH

      (laughs)

    27. JR

      What?

    28. NA

      Yeah.

    29. JR

      First of all, what, what kind of audit have you done where you're so confident that the election has been stolen or has not been stolen? How much work are you doing before you're making these assertions?

    30. NA

      Yeah, they-

  14. 1:15:27 – 1:21:25

    Moon crystals and sci-fi trajectories: fusion headlines, Lazar’s element talk, and future civilization leaps

    1. JR

      As time goes on, I become more suspicious.

    2. TH

      (laughs) Me too.

    3. JR

      They app- apparently have found some sort of crystal on the moon, um, that China has found that they're going to use for nuclear fusion. Have you seen that?

    4. HK

      Yeah. Energy source of some kind.

    5. JR

      Yeah. Some kinda energy source, so they're going to mine the moon, probably with robots.

    6. HK

      What color is there ever gonna be now?

    7. TH

      That sounds crazy.

    8. JR

      China discovered... What?

    9. HK

      It just sounds like a wild headline-

    10. JR

      I know.

    11. HK

      ... that doesn't make any sense.

    12. JR

      "China Discovered a New Type of Moon Crystal That Might Lead to Limitless Energy." But if you really think about it, these people that we think come here from other planets, all you would need is a few of these inventions over the next thousand years, and we have some sort of technology that's beyond our wildest imagination that can conquer spacetime, like instantaneously, shoot you into other spar- spots in the universe like instantly. These kind of things that people figure out, like that plus a thousand years time is time travel.

    13. HK

      (laughs)

    14. JR

      You know?

    15. TH

      Yeah.

    16. JR

      That plus a thousand years time is the ability to go to anywhere in the universe.

    17. HK

      Yeah.

    18. TH

      Yeah.

    19. JR

      Instantly, like a website. Imagine if going to the universe was just like going to a website.

    20. HK

      (laughs)

    21. JR

      You just type in the location, and you're there. If you have Wi-Fi and high, high bandwidth-

    22. TH

      Yeah.

    23. JR

      ... instantly.

    24. TH

      A little bit clunky at first. You need a cord attached to you at first.

    25. HK

      Yeah. (laughs)

    26. JR

      (laughs)

    27. TH

      And then eventually you go wireless.

    28. JR

      That's probably 100% how it's gonna go down. It's gonna be-

    29. TH

      Yeah.

    30. JR

      It's gonna get to a point where you literally ch- just, just can just go to spots instantly.

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