Joe Rogan Experience #1876 - Greg Fitzsimmons

Greg Fitzsimmons is a stand-up comedian, actor, and writer. He's the host of "Fitzdog Radio" podcast and co-host of the podcasts "Sunday Papers" and "Childish." www.gregfitzsimmons.com

Joe RoganhostGreg Fitzsimmonsguest

Jun 27, 20243h 6mWatch on YouTube ↗

EVERY SPOKEN WORD

150 min read · 30,027 words

0:00 – 1:10
Fitness challenges, calorie-burn tracking, and why contests make you obsessive
1. NANarrator
  (drumbeats) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out. The Joe Rogan Experience.
2. JRJoe Rogan
  Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. (instrumental music) ... (whispers) two days per... and one must be sober for a month.
3. GFGreg Fitzsimmons
  Does one... must one work out every day? Isn't that part of it too?
4. JRJoe Rogan
  Must one work out every day.
5. GFGreg Fitzsimmons
  Yeah.
6. JRJoe Rogan
  One must work out. One must burn 500 calories in a workout every single day, seven days a week, 365 days.
7. GFGreg Fitzsimmons
  (laughs)
8. JRJoe Rogan
  Well, 60.
9. GFGreg Fitzsimmons
  Oh, what hap-
10. JRJoe Rogan
  30.
11. NANarrator
  30.
12. GFGreg Fitzsimmons
  30 days. (laughs)
13. JRJoe Rogan
  (laughs)
14. GFGreg Fitzsimmons
  (laughs)
15. JRJoe Rogan
  I'm already... I'm expanding. (laughs)
16. GFGreg Fitzsimmons
  So, what... isn't it... is there a contest about who can burn the most calories?
17. JRJoe Rogan
  No. We're not doing that-
18. GFGreg Fitzsimmons
  No.
19. JRJoe Rogan
  ... because we go crazy.
20. GFGreg Fitzsimmons
  Yeah.
21. JRJoe Rogan
  The problem with contests is they absorb your whole life.
22. GFGreg Fitzsimmons
  Yeah.
23. JRJoe Rogan
  And everybody, except Ari, has a family and obligations and jobs and-
24. GFGreg Fitzsimmons
  Right.
25. JRJoe Rogan
  ... podcasts and different things they have to do, just the... We did it one year, the contest, and it was pretty obvious halfway in that we were fucked, 'cause-
26. GFGreg Fitzsimmons
  I remember you got behind and then you just powered through and came from behind with, like, some crazy workouts.
1:10 – 3:24
The MyZone contest spiral: movies on cardio and 7-hour workout days
1. JRJoe Rogan
  Well, I was never really behind. I mean, I might have been behind for, like, a day. It was though... in the beginning, we were trying to figure out how much we were gonna burn, you know, because we were using this MyZones thing, so it's, like, you wear a chest strap and the chest strap gives you points, uh, with the application for however many minutes you are at 80% of your max heart rate versus 90% of your max heart rate, I think 90 is two points, 80 is one or something like that.
2. GFGreg Fitzsimmons
  Yeah.
3. JRJoe Rogan
  And (sighs) Ari figured out that you could watch TV while you were doing cardio, so he watched movies on an iPad-
4. GFGreg Fitzsimmons
  Uh-huh.
5. JRJoe Rogan
  ... while he was doing cardio.
6. GFGreg Fitzsimmons
  Yeah.
7. JRJoe Rogan
  And he ran up a big number, like, 400 in a day and we were like, "Fuck."
8. GFGreg Fitzsimmons
  Uh-huh.
9. JRJoe Rogan
  That's a big number. That was, like, two movies.
10. GFGreg Fitzsimmons
  Yeah.
11. JRJoe Rogan
  And so then we really started getting crazy, and then one day I did 1,100 points. I did seven hours of cardio.
12. GFGreg Fitzsimmons
  No shit.
13. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah. Yeah.
14. GFGreg Fitzsimmons
  Mostly what, running?
15. JRJoe Rogan
  No, mostly elliptical machine-
16. GFGreg Fitzsimmons
  Uh-huh.
17. JRJoe Rogan
  ... because you could watch movies.
18. GFGreg Fitzsimmons
  Yeah.
19. JRJoe Rogan
  So I watched John Wick, like, 50 times.
20. GFGreg Fitzsimmons
  (laughs)
21. JRJoe Rogan
  I kept... (laughs) I kept rewinding it to the scene in the bathhouse where he kills everybody.
22. GFGreg Fitzsimmons
  (laughs)
23. JRJoe Rogan
  It's just because it's so adrenaline-filled, you can keep going.
24. GFGreg Fitzsimmons
  Yeah.
25. JRJoe Rogan
  I watched some fights, I watched a bunch of shit, and it's like, ugh, it just got too crazy.
26. GFGreg Fitzsimmons
  Yeah.
27. JRJoe Rogan
  We were losing our minds.
28. GFGreg Fitzsimmons
  Right.
29. JRJoe Rogan
  We were really losing our minds. We were talking a lot of shit to each other.
30. GFGreg Fitzsimmons
  Ah.
3:24 – 5:11
Cardio as mental health medicine and tuning out the noise of the news
1. GFGreg Fitzsimmons
  Yeah, it seems like a... it seems like a great idea for your men-... like, for me, working out is just for my head. I don't even give a shit. I mean, this body I was naturally born with. It's a gift.
2. JRJoe Rogan
  Congratulations.
3. GFGreg Fitzsimmons
  But my brain, if I work out, man, I just feel happy and if I don't, I get depressed.
4. JRJoe Rogan
  So one of the things we talked about, Tom and I talked about specifically, was that when you do a lot of cardio in a day, like four hours of cardio in a day, he goes, all the internal chatter just goes away.
5. GFGreg Fitzsimmons
  Yeah.
6. JRJoe Rogan
  I go, yeah, there's like... there's no negative talk.
7. GFGreg Fitzsimmons
  Yeah.
8. JRJoe Rogan
  There's no, like, anxiety and angst. And I really wonder how much of that that people walk around with all day could be fixed with cardio. It could be fixed with, like, rigorous exercise. You know, when they say, um... they say weightlifting helps anxiety too. They say strength training does. But, uh, for me, it's like cardio. Cardio seems to put me in this place where it just is like, "Whatever, who gives a fuck?" It's just like a... just a really peaceful... it, like, balances out what's really important to think about and worry about versus, like, things that are just sort of bouncing around in your head. You don't know if I should pay attention to that one or that one and-
9. GFGreg Fitzsimmons
  Mm.
10. JRJoe Rogan
  ... like, what should I freak out about the most?
11. GFGreg Fitzsimmons
  Yeah.
12. JRJoe Rogan
  Like, every time I watch the news, every time I look at the news, I'm like, "How engaged do I get here? Do I freak out about Russia? Am I gonna freak out and then my whole day will be a freak-out?"
13. GFGreg Fitzsimmons
  Yeah.
14. JRJoe Rogan
  Or do I recognize that there's not a goddamn thing I can do about this and just casually be aware of it and hope it doesn't explode?
15. GFGreg Fitzsimmons
  Mm-hmm.
16. JRJoe Rogan
  That's the dilemma.
17. GFGreg Fitzsimmons
  Yeah.
18. JRJoe Rogan
  Like, basically every day-
19. GFGreg Fitzsimmons
  Yeah.
20. JRJoe Rogan
  ... with wild shit like the Russia-Ukraine war, most of the... most of the time I look at the news, I'm like, "How much am I gonna engage with this?"
21. GFGreg Fitzsimmons
  Yeah. And not just the news but, like, everything in your life.
22. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah.
5:11 – 6:51
Sleep hacks and falling asleep to “dull” nonfiction (Civil War & Jesse James)
1. GFGreg Fitzsimmons
  I have to do it when I list-... I listen to books about the Civil War 'cause I listen to audiobooks when I go to sleep at night. It's the only way I can sleep. I just listen to... I try to find the dullest nonfiction available-
2. JRJoe Rogan
  (laughs)
3. GFGreg Fitzsimmons
  ... with, like, a good British author-
4. JRJoe Rogan
  (laughs)
5. GFGreg Fitzsimmons
  ... and it, and it just puts me right to sleep. So, uh, so I've probably listened to 50 nonfiction books in the last five, ten years. I can't remember any of it.
6. JRJoe Rogan
  Do you fall asleep with the headphones on?
7. GFGreg Fitzsimmons
  Yeah, yeah.
8. JRJoe Rogan
  Is that a problem?
9. GFGreg Fitzsimmons
  It is.
10. JRJoe Rogan
  Like, do you have dreams and then-
11. GFGreg Fitzsimmons
  No, no, no, I set a timer.
12. JRJoe Rogan
  (laughs)
13. GFGreg Fitzsimmons
  It goes off after 45 minutes.
14. JRJoe Rogan
  You get some guy talking to you about some guy-
15. GFGreg Fitzsimmons
  Yeah, yeah. (laughs)
16. JRJoe Rogan
  ... bleeding out from a musket wound in the woods. You know, who got shot by his own cousin-
17. GFGreg Fitzsimmons
  Yeah.
18. JRJoe Rogan
  ... because they were on the wrong side of the Mississippi.
19. GFGreg Fitzsimmons
  Uh, dude, the one I just listened to was about Jesse James. It was pretty badass. Jesse James was born in, uh, Missouri.... and Missouri during the Civil War. When you picture the Civil War, you picture, like, there was the Confederate states and there was the Union states, and they fought. No. Missouri, fucking this family was Confederate, this one was Unionist-
20. JRJoe Rogan
  Oh, no.
21. GFGreg Fitzsimmons
  ... and they would just go kill each other. It was-
22. JRJoe Rogan
  Oh, my God.
23. GFGreg Fitzsimmons
  ... random. And there was marauding packs of guys like Jesse James. It was the Jesse James gang. It was him and, him and his brother, Frank, and these other guys, and they would just, they would r-... It was... They, they had, like... The press kinda, like, made heroes of them because they said that they were, like, uh, Robin Hood. They were giving to the poor because, you know, they gave a couple widows some money-
24. JRJoe Rogan
  (laughs)
25. GFGreg Fitzsimmons
  ... but they mostly kept, like... They killed, fucking, thousands of people and kept all the money.
6:51 – 9:12
Honor culture, Appalachian feuds, and how migration shapes violence
1. JRJoe Rogan
  Did you ever read... You read any Malcolm Gladwell?
2. GFGreg Fitzsimmons
  Yeah.
3. JRJoe Rogan
  You read that thing that Malcolm Gladwell talked about with, like, the honor societies that lived in, like, Appalachia and how many of them were involved in feuds that led to, like, mass murders?
4. GFGreg Fitzsimmons
  Oh, no shit. Really?
5. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah. Yeah. But the psychology behind it's the most fascinating thing. He was saying that these people come... Like, they emigrated from a part of the world where they were, uh, herders, like, they're herded animals. And when you herded animals, you had a very different reaction to transgressions than someone who, like, say, was a farmer, because someone couldn't steal your farm.
6. GFGreg Fitzsimmons
  Yeah.
7. JRJoe Rogan
  But they could steal your animals.
8. GFGreg Fitzsimmons
  Right.
9. JRJoe Rogan
  So you, you had to be violent in your defense of your property-
10. GFGreg Fitzsimmons
  Yeah.
11. JRJoe Rogan
  ... because it could be gathered up by somebody else, so you had to constantly be vigilant and you had to be very wary of intruders 'cause people did that all the time.
12. GFGreg Fitzsimmons
  Yeah.
13. JRJoe Rogan
  Where they'd come and they would steal all your sheep. So when they came over to America, they carried that ethic about conflict. They were, they were to the death. They would go to the death. They would come for you, and that's just the way they lived. Like, if you stole from them, they would kill you. If you, you, you insulted them, they would kill you, and they were all living in the Appalachias.
14. GFGreg Fitzsimmons
  Wow.
15. JRJoe Rogan
  So these folks were just like... If you think about that part of the world, like, why is it so uniquely violent?
16. GFGreg Fitzsimmons
  Yeah.
17. JRJoe Rogan
  Well, it's because those people-
18. GFGreg Fitzsimmons
  And clannish.
19. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah.
20. GFGreg Fitzsimmons
  Yeah.
21. JRJoe Rogan
  They emanated from this population of people that grew up having to defend their animals. It completely makes sense if you think about it.
22. GFGreg Fitzsimmons
  What were they, like, Scottish mostly?
23. JRJoe Rogan
  That's a good question. Well, uh...
24. GFGreg Fitzsimmons
  I think they were Irish and Scottish.
25. JRJoe Rogan
  Which also makes sense. Wild-ass drunks.
26. GFGreg Fitzsimmons
  Yep.
27. JRJoe Rogan
  Constantly involved in fights and a long history of warfare.
28. GFGreg Fitzsimmons
  Yep.
29. JRJoe Rogan
  You know, those are wild people, man. Wild-
30. GFGreg Fitzsimmons
  Right.
9:12 – 11:32
Identity, ethnicity labels, and Greg’s surname history (“Fitz” as ‘bastard son of’)
1. JRJoe Rogan
  To the point... We were talking about this the other day. When there... When is there going to be... Like, I don't know how this works, but I know that when they do a genetic test, they can find out some of your family's from Eastern Europe, you have this percentage of Eastern Europe genes, this percentage of genes that appear... From Asia. And they, they can do that-
2. GFGreg Fitzsimmons
  Yeah.
3. JRJoe Rogan
  ... with, like, a 23andMe, right?
4. GFGreg Fitzsimmons
  Right.
5. JRJoe Rogan
  At what point in time did... Is there an American gene?
6. GFGreg Fitzsimmons
  Mm-hmm.
7. JRJoe Rogan
  At what point in time... Like, how many generations do we have to stay in this one spot or is it just such a constant melting pot with people constantly moving into here that it-
8. GFGreg Fitzsimmons
  Right.
9. JRJoe Rogan
  ... never will be, like... You get what I'm saying? Like, is it, is it possible that people could say, "Oh, your ancestors came from America."
10. GFGreg Fitzsimmons
  Yeah.
11. JRJoe Rogan
  Is that even possible?
12. GFGreg Fitzsimmons
  That is funny 'cause I'll ask people in the audience, like, "What's your ethnicity?" And they say, "White," and I just look at them going, like-
13. JRJoe Rogan
  (laughs)
14. GFGreg Fitzsimmons
  ... "What the fuck is wrong with you?" And there'll be, like, a Black person sitting right next to them and they'll be like, "White! I'm white!"
15. JRJoe Rogan
  (laughs)
16. GFGreg Fitzsimmons
  "It's fucking great!" (laughs)
17. JRJoe Rogan
  "What's your ethnicity?"
18. GFGreg Fitzsimmons
  And, and so-
19. JRJoe Rogan
  And you can't... White is not an ethni- ethnicity, right? Isn't that odd?
20. GFGreg Fitzsimmons
  Yeah.
21. JRJoe Rogan
  It's kinda odd that Latino is an ethnicity.
22. GFGreg Fitzsimmons
  Uh-huh.
23. JRJoe Rogan
  Uh, African American is an ethnicity.
24. GFGreg Fitzsimmons
  Yeah.
25. JRJoe Rogan
  Asian is an ethnicity. But that's not... Like, being white, like, if you say... (laughs) German's just white, right? Irish is just white.
26. GFGreg Fitzsimmons
  Yeah.
27. JRJoe Rogan
  Just a white guy.
28. GFGreg Fitzsimmons
  Well, you would say, probably, Saxon or-
29. JRJoe Rogan
  Who the fuck would say Saxon? I'd be like, "Get out of my office."
30. GFGreg Fitzsimmons
  (laughs)
11:32 – 15:22
AA rooms as comedy incubators and the Boston work ethic (plus unions)
1. JRJoe Rogan
  Wow. Remember Greg Fitzgerald?
2. GFGreg Fitzsimmons
  Fi- No, Dave Fitzgerald.
3. JRJoe Rogan
  Dave Fitzgerald.
4. GFGreg Fitzsimmons
  Yeah.
5. JRJoe Rogan
  That's right, Dave Fitzgerald.
6. GFGreg Fitzsimmons
  Dave Fitzgerald was a good comic.
7. JRJoe Rogan
  Dave Fitzgerald was one of the first guys that I ever saw that went straight from the, um, Alcoholics Anonymous program-
8. GFGreg Fitzsimmons
  Mm-hmm.
9. JRJoe Rogan
  ... to stand-up.
10. GFGreg Fitzsimmons
  Yeah.
11. JRJoe Rogan
  'Cause AA, for a lot of guys, acted like as an open mic.
12. GFGreg Fitzsimmons
  Yeah.
13. JRJoe Rogan
  Like, Dick Doherty. Dick Doherty got through comedy from AA.
14. GFGreg Fitzsimmons
  Yep.
15. JRJoe Rogan
  A lot of those guys did.
16. GFGreg Fitzsimmons
  Yeah, the AA rooms launched many a career. I would, I would name names, but it's, like, literally the last thing you're supposed to do (laughs) -
17. JRJoe Rogan
  You're not supposed to do that.
18. GFGreg Fitzsimmons
  ... as an anonymous.
19. JRJoe Rogan
  Well, Dave used to talk about it-
20. GFGreg Fitzsimmons
  I was just naming three other people.
21. JRJoe Rogan
  ... on stage.
22. GFGreg Fitzsimmons
  Yeah, yeah, yeah, she would talk about it.
23. JRJoe Rogan
  And, and also-
24. GFGreg Fitzsimmons
  And he's dead.
25. JRJoe Rogan
  ... he's not with us anymore.
26. GFGreg Fitzsimmons
  Yeah.
27. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah. He was a funny guy.
28. GFGreg Fitzsimmons
  Yeah.
29. JRJoe Rogan
  It was t-... That was a bummer, man.
30. GFGreg Fitzsimmons
  He used to get standing O's as the feature act. How do you like-
15:22 – 27:45
Money, luck, Joe’s comedy-club vision, and the new podcast-driven comedy ecosystem
1. GFGreg Fitzsimmons
  That's why it's funny when somebody like you gets rich, 'cause you, you don't have the inclination to go, "Well, now I need twice as much of that." Instead of that, like, I gotta thank you. Like, I did two shows for you this week at the thing and you handed me some money, and I loo- I got home, I look at it, I was like, "Oh, Joe..." Joe's ethos is, "I got lucky." Not lucky, you earned it, but you also, there was, there was the luck of being in an industry of podcasting-
2. JRJoe Rogan
  I got a lot of luck.
3. GFGreg Fitzsimmons
  ... which fucking exploded-
4. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah, I got a lot of luck.
5. GFGreg Fitzsimmons
  ... as you were the guy that was working the hardest and being the best at it. But because of that, you've decided to open a comedy club that I know you're not gonna make a lot of money in, but you're gonna do it because it's a great building, developmental experience for young comics. It's a place, it'll be a place of community, it'll be a place where you can hang with your boys, you know?
6. JRJoe Rogan
  Exactly.
7. GFGreg Fitzsimmons
  And, and it's not about the money. And that's what... That, a- and it's so rare that somebody comes into money like you did and actually just enjoys it and uses it for good.
8. JRJoe Rogan
  It's a trick. You can get sucked into it and it'll start thinking that it's the only thing.
9. GFGreg Fitzsimmons
  Yeah.
10. JRJoe Rogan
  It'll start talking to you like, "This is all you need, Greg."
11. GFGreg Fitzsimmons
  Yeah.
12. JRJoe Rogan
  "You just need me."
13. GFGreg Fitzsimmons
  (laughs)
14. JRJoe Rogan
  "Make more and more of me, concentrate on me, and you'll have more of me. Wouldn't you like a yacht, Greg?"
15. GFGreg Fitzsimmons
  (laughs)
16. JRJoe Rogan
  "Wouldn't you like a yacht?"
17. GFGreg Fitzsimmons
  "Oh, look-"
18. JRJoe Rogan
  You know?
19. GFGreg Fitzsimmons
  "... another zero."
20. JRJoe Rogan
  "Ooh, more s- there's a man ahead of you in the line."
21. GFGreg Fitzsimmons
  Yeah.
22. JRJoe Rogan
  "Who has more money."
23. GFGreg Fitzsimmons
  (laughs)
24. JRJoe Rogan
  "We need to figure out a way to beat that man." And just-
25. GFGreg Fitzsimmons
  "That man is weaker than you."
26. JRJoe Rogan
  With comedy, man, like, what... The thing about it that I enjoy the most is like the camaraderie and the fun and the new material and the putting on the good shows and having a good time with everybody.
27. GFGreg Fitzsimmons
  Yeah.
28. JRJoe Rogan
  And I'm like, that is something that I, I feel like when I moved here, I'm like, "I want to invest in that." Not just like invest in it in a sense of like do it all the time and do a lot of shows with my friends, like you guys last night and, you know, we're gonna do, uh, Atlanta this weekend. Like, just... But also like to, to set a place where it's like encouraged, supported, and then you know that if you... There's a clear path now. It used to be you had to get a guy to help you w- go on the road and, you know, maybe if you did well at the club, they'd have you back to feature and you grounded out for as many years as you could and you try to get TV credits.
29. GFGreg Fitzsimmons
  Mm-hmm.
30. JRJoe Rogan
  And some guys got TV credits before they really could ha- headline, like me. I had TV credits before I could headline.
27:45 – 43:52
Hypnosis, EMDR, breathing ‘trip’ states, and self-sabotage around success
1. JRJoe Rogan
  Wow, how about fighters now?
2. GFGreg Fitzsimmons
  I mean, think about how excited you are to go to a Super Bowl. Think about the excitement level that person has, and now you're the guy in the center of it. And you've got the possibility if you win of making an extra million in your bonus-
3. JRJoe Rogan
  (smacks lips) Yeah.
4. GFGreg Fitzsimmons
  ... or whatever else. There's so many factors going into that.
5. JRJoe Rogan
  (smacks lips) Yeah. It's, um... There's a lot going on and it's... Retiring from that-
6. GFGreg Fitzsimmons
  Mm.
7. JRJoe Rogan
  ... has got to be ex- incredibly difficult. And that pales in comparison to someone who they ship overseas to fight in war and then bring them back to America and then just say, "All right. You're done. Just go be normal now."
8. GFGreg Fitzsimmons
  Also with a head injury.
9. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah, would you have, uh, 100 combat engagements with your-
10. GFGreg Fitzsimmons
  Mm-hmm.
11. JRJoe Rogan
  ... the enemy? You know, how, how many times did you have to shoot people? And then you come back over here and you're supposed to be normal. And when I talk to guys that have served and experienced combat duty and then come over here, I'm like, "Well, how much counseling do you get?" It's very little.
12. GFGreg Fitzsimmons
  Yeah.
13. JRJoe Rogan
  Very little guidance. You know, "Reach out if you need help. There's numbers you can call." But at the end of the day, it's like, that's a complex transition to go from literal war, actual war, like shooting guns at enemy, they're shooting guns at you, you're in a foreign land, you're, you're going through mountains, people are yelling things in languages you don't know and you're hearing guns going off. And you might die today, or your friends might die today, but for sure people you know are gonna die.
14. GFGreg Fitzsimmons
  And also part of your training, a big part of your training is to not feel.
15. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah.
16. GFGreg Fitzsimmons
  And so now you're coming back and you're being asked, "Hey talk to us. Let us know how you're feeling." And it's like, "Well..."
17. JRJoe Rogan
  "Good to go, sir?"
18. GFGreg Fitzsimmons
  Yeah.
19. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah.
20. GFGreg Fitzsimmons
  Right, right. That's why they found that, uh, with, with trauma, with PTSD with soldiers, they found a thing called EMDR, which is a way of doing therapy that doesn't involve talk. I mean you talk, but you... It's not about recognizing feelings. It's about they, they give you... It started with like... You remember like watches, the, the shrink would take the watch and go-
21. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah.
22. GFGreg Fitzsimmons
  ... back and forth with it? It's about connecting the two different sides of your brain together.
23. JRJoe Rogan
  Have you ever been hypnotized?
24. GFGreg Fitzsimmons
  No.
25. JRJoe Rogan
  I have.
26. GFGreg Fitzsimmons
  Really?
27. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah, yeah. My friend Vinny Shorman put me under. He does, uh, hypnosis for a lot of fighters and just like a mind coach for fighters.
28. GFGreg Fitzsimmons
  Mm-hmm.
29. JRJoe Rogan
  He's a very interesting guy.
30. GFGreg Fitzsimmons
  Yeah.
43:52 – 1:41:07
Climate change debates, long time scales, and risky coastal real estate
1. JRJoe Rogan
  Did you see Don Lemon was trying to talk some climate scientist into saying that this is, uh, this hurricane is because of climate science? And he's like, "I'm not, you know, it's not exactly how it works."
2. GFGreg Fitzsimmons
  Uh-huh.
3. JRJoe Rogan
  "And I'm just trying to explain to you-"
4. GFGreg Fitzsimmons
  Yeah.
5. JRJoe Rogan
  "... what is going on, and this is the hurricane, and, you know, we can, we can cover that more broadly, but..."
6. GFGreg Fitzsimmons
  I know every time there's a cold day, all of the climate deniers say, "Oh, well where's your global warming?"
7. JRJoe Rogan
  Pssh.
8. GFGreg Fitzsimmons
  And then every time there's a hurricane, all, everybody on the left is like, "Well, this is be-" Yeah.
9. JRJoe Rogan
  Dude, that is a complex issue.
10. GFGreg Fitzsimmons
  Yeah.
11. JRJoe Rogan
  That's a complex issue that we're in danger of getting, um, ideologically boxed into, because, uh, no one is ever gonna deny that climate change is gonna have a giant effect on humans, and it seems to be increasing. No one's doing denying.
12. GFGreg Fitzsimmons
  No one's ever gonna deny that?
13. JRJoe Rogan
  No one's-
14. GFGreg Fitzsimmons
  There's a lot of people denying that.
15. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah, but no one logical.
16. GFGreg Fitzsimmons
  Right.
17. JRJoe Rogan
  Like, it's happening.
18. GFGreg Fitzsimmons
  Right.
19. JRJoe Rogan
  But what I'm saying is, like, the temperature is rising.
20. GFGreg Fitzsimmons
  Yeah.
21. JRJoe Rogan
  But what's interesting is why people want to ignore the fact that it's always done this. Like, humans have, withou- without a doubt, we have an effect on that, with, uh, carbon emissions are up and who knows what the fuck, the gases in the air and all the crazy shit we do with mass production and-
22. GFGreg Fitzsimmons
  Yeah.
23. JRJoe Rogan
  ... and energy consumption. But it's always been up and down. Like, if you g- I had this guy Steve Koonin on the podcast who's a physicist, and, um, he wasn't even a climate scientist, he's just a guy who just decided to, like, examine the models. And he's like, "If you go, like, thousands of years, it's all crazy. It's all like this and that. It's, it's up by this many degrees and down by that many." He's like, "It's like it's never stable. Ever." When there was humans living in fucking caves, it was never stable. But when they were looking at it over 100 years, you can get these crazy spikes. You're like, "Oh my God, look, we started using gas powered cars and it was going up and up and u-" But if you go 1,000 years, that's totally normal. All that stuff's normal. The question is, how much of an impact do we have on it? That's not totally being quantified. Like, they're not exactly sure. They know it's a significant impact, but they know this is happening anyway. And the Ice Age happened anyway. The Ice Age happened without us.
24. GFGreg Fitzsimmons
  Mm.
25. JRJoe Rogan
  Didn't have anything to do with us.
26. GFGreg Fitzsimmons
  Yeah.
27. JRJoe Rogan
  It's gonna happen again.
28. GFGreg Fitzsimmons
  Yeah.
29. JRJoe Rogan
  It's probably gonna happen again. It's probably this constant cycle. X many thousands of years, this happens, and then X many thousands of years, that happens. And that's why the fucking Sahara Desert used to be a rainforest. Did you know that?
30. GFGreg Fitzsimmons
  Hm.

Episode duration: 3:06:00

Install uListen for AI-powered chat & search across the full episode — Get Full Transcript

Transcript of episode -gktSDD3BAs

Get more out of YouTube videos.

High quality summaries for YouTube videos. Accurate transcripts to search & find moments. Powered by ChatGPT & Claude AI.

iOS

Android

Claude

Chrome

Fitness challenges, calorie-burn tracking, and why contests make you obsessive

The MyZone contest spiral: movies on cardio and 7-hour workout days

Cardio as mental health medicine and tuning out the noise of the news

Sleep hacks and falling asleep to “dull” nonfiction (Civil War & Jesse James)

Honor culture, Appalachian feuds, and how migration shapes violence

Identity, ethnicity labels, and Greg’s surname history (“Fitz” as ‘bastard son of’)

AA rooms as comedy incubators and the Boston work ethic (plus unions)

Money, luck, Joe’s comedy-club vision, and the new podcast-driven comedy ecosystem

Hypnosis, EMDR, breathing ‘trip’ states, and self-sabotage around success

Climate change debates, long time scales, and risky coastal real estate

Get more out of YouTube videos.