Joe Rogan Experience #1876 - Greg Fitzsimmons

1. 0:00 – 15:00

   (drumbeats) Joe Rogan podcast,…

   1. NANarrator0:00

      (drumbeats) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out. The Joe Rogan Experience.

   2. JRJoe Rogan0:06

      Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. (instrumental music) ... (whispers) two days per... and one must be sober for a month.

   3. GFGreg Fitzsimmons0:17

      Does one... must one work out every day? Isn't that part of it too?

   4. JRJoe Rogan0:20

      Must one work out every day.

   5. GFGreg Fitzsimmons0:22

      Yeah.

   6. JRJoe Rogan0:22

      One must work out. One must burn 500 calories in a workout every single day, seven days a week, 365 days.

   7. GFGreg Fitzsimmons0:32

      (laughs)

   8. JRJoe Rogan0:32

      Well, 60.

   9. GFGreg Fitzsimmons0:33

      Oh, what hap-

   10. JRJoe Rogan0:33

       30.

   11. NANarrator0:34

       30.

   12. GFGreg Fitzsimmons0:34

       30 days. (laughs)

   13. JRJoe Rogan0:35

       (laughs)

   14. GFGreg Fitzsimmons0:35

       (laughs)

   15. JRJoe Rogan0:35

       I'm already... I'm expanding. (laughs)

   16. GFGreg Fitzsimmons0:39

       So, what... isn't it... is there a contest about who can burn the most calories?

   17. JRJoe Rogan0:43

       No. We're not doing that-

   18. GFGreg Fitzsimmons0:44

       No.

   19. JRJoe Rogan0:44

       ... because we go crazy.

   20. GFGreg Fitzsimmons0:45

       Yeah.

   21. JRJoe Rogan0:46

       The problem with contests is they absorb your whole life.

   22. GFGreg Fitzsimmons0:48

       Yeah.

   23. JRJoe Rogan0:48

       And everybody, except Ari, has a family and obligations and jobs and-

   24. GFGreg Fitzsimmons0:53

       Right.

   25. JRJoe Rogan0:53

       ... podcasts and different things they have to do, just the... We did it one year, the contest, and it was pretty obvious halfway in that we were fucked, 'cause-

   26. GFGreg Fitzsimmons1:02

       I remember you got behind and then you just powered through and came from behind with, like, some crazy workouts.

   27. JRJoe Rogan1:10

       Well, I was never really behind. I mean, I might have been behind for, like, a day. It was though... in the beginning, we were trying to figure out how much we were gonna burn, you know, because we were using this MyZones thing, so it's, like, you wear a chest strap and the chest strap gives you points, uh, with the application for however many minutes you are at 80% of your max heart rate versus 90% of your max heart rate, I think 90 is two points, 80 is one or something like that.

   28. GFGreg Fitzsimmons1:37

       Yeah.

   29. JRJoe Rogan1:38

       And (sighs) Ari figured out that you could watch TV while you were doing cardio, so he watched movies on an iPad-

   30. GFGreg Fitzsimmons1:47

       Uh-huh.
2. 15:00 – 30:00

   Fuck you, pay me.…

   1. GFGreg Fitzsimmons15:00

      the seasons," no.

   2. JRJoe Rogan15:01

      Fuck you, pay me.

   3. GFGreg Fitzsimmons15:01

      Fucking s- fuck you, pay me.

   4. JRJoe Rogan15:04

      (laughs)

   5. GFGreg Fitzsimmons15:04

      Every quarter is a summer. There's no winter.

   6. JRJoe Rogan15:07

      Yeah.

   7. GFGreg Fitzsimmons15:07

      Yeah.

   8. JRJoe Rogan15:07

      No winter. Fuck you, pay me.

   9. GFGreg Fitzsimmons15:09

      (laughs)

   10. JRJoe Rogan15:09

       Fuck you, pay me.

   11. GFGreg Fitzsimmons15:12

       Yeah.

   12. JRJoe Rogan15:12

       It's crazy that that's how medicine is run.

   13. GFGreg Fitzsimmons15:14

       Yeah.

   14. JRJoe Rogan15:15

       That's what sells medicine.

   15. GFGreg Fitzsimmons15:17

       Right.

   16. JRJoe Rogan15:17

       That's what sells everything. That's what sells cars, that's what convincing you to get a new cellphone. I got a new phone-

   17. GFGreg Fitzsimmons15:22

       That's why it's funny when somebody like you gets rich, 'cause you, you don't have the inclination to go, "Well, now I need twice as much of that." Instead of that, like, I gotta thank you. Like, I did two shows for you this week at the thing and you handed me some money, and I loo- I got home, I look at it, I was like, "Oh, Joe..." Joe's ethos is, "I got lucky." Not lucky, you earned it, but you also, there was, there was the luck of being in an industry of podcasting-

   18. JRJoe Rogan15:46

       I got a lot of luck.

   19. GFGreg Fitzsimmons15:47

       ... which fucking exploded-

   20. JRJoe Rogan15:48

       Yeah, I got a lot of luck.

   21. GFGreg Fitzsimmons15:49

       ... as you were the guy that was working the hardest and being the best at it. But because of that, you've decided to open a comedy club that I know you're not gonna make a lot of money in, but you're gonna do it because it's a great building, developmental experience for young comics. It's a place, it'll be a place of community, it'll be a place where you can hang with your boys, you know?

   22. JRJoe Rogan16:09

       Exactly.

   23. GFGreg Fitzsimmons16:10

       And, and it's not about the money. And that's what... That, a- and it's so rare that somebody comes into money like you did and actually just enjoys it and uses it for good.

   24. JRJoe Rogan16:19

       It's a trick. You can get sucked into it and it'll start thinking that it's the only thing.

   25. GFGreg Fitzsimmons16:23

       Yeah.

   26. JRJoe Rogan16:23

       It'll start talking to you like, "This is all you need, Greg."

   27. GFGreg Fitzsimmons16:26

       Yeah.

   28. JRJoe Rogan16:27

       "You just need me."

   29. GFGreg Fitzsimmons16:29

       (laughs)

   30. JRJoe Rogan16:29

       "Make more and more of me, concentrate on me, and you'll have more of me. Wouldn't you like a yacht, Greg?"
3. 30:00 – 45:00

   I have. …

   1. GFGreg Fitzsimmons30:00

   2. JRJoe Rogan30:00

      I have.

   3. GFGreg Fitzsimmons30:01

      Really?

   4. JRJoe Rogan30:01

      Yeah, yeah. My friend Vinny Shorman put me under. He does, uh, hypnosis for a lot of fighters and just like a mind coach for fighters.

   5. GFGreg Fitzsimmons30:08

      Mm-hmm.

   6. JRJoe Rogan30:08

      He's a very interesting guy.

   7. GFGreg Fitzsimmons30:09

      Yeah.

   8. JRJoe Rogan30:10

      And he explained to me what it was. Like, "All right. Let's give it a shot." So, uh, on my old studio, I laid down on the couch and he talked me through, like, this, this, this... I forget exactly how he did it, but we went through this thing, like, you know, "You're gonna be relaxed. Good at this." Now... And the next thing you know, I was in like a state of mind. I was like, "This is really fascinating." It's like this is a...... it's almost like you have access with someone el- when someone helps you and guides you, you have access to a state of mind that you don't achieve independently, or I didn't know how to achieve independently. But it's an unusual state of mind. It's like a very real thing. So, like, when I got hypnotized, I was realizing, as it was happening, I was like, "This is interesting," because this is a very real thing. So, it was almost like you're on a drug. It's like this drug that puts you in a different spot. Like, "Oh, here's... Let me unscrew you from your life. I'm going to put you over here, and now look at your life."

   9. GFGreg Fitzsimmons31:04

      Interesting.

   10. JRJoe Rogan31:04

       And I was like, "Wow." I was like, "Oh, this is a real way of, of do..." And then someone can talk to you logically, and it, they can explain things to you and would make sense. I think everybody's afraid they would wake up with no pants on and, like-

   11. GFGreg Fitzsimmons31:16

       Yeah. (laughs)

   12. JRJoe Rogan31:16

       ... what happened? But I don't think it works like that.

   13. GFGreg Fitzsimmons31:19

       So, all of a sudden, you're singing Madonna with no shirt on-

   14. JRJoe Rogan31:22

       Yeah, I don't-

   15. GFGreg Fitzsimmons31:22

       ... in front of a comedy club audience.

   16. JRJoe Rogan31:24

       ... think it works like that.

   17. GFGreg Fitzsimmons31:24

       Yeah.

   18. JRJoe Rogan31:25

       That was amazing though. We used to watch, um, uh, Frankie-

   19. GFGreg Fitzsimmons31:28

       Frank Santos.

   20. JRJoe Rogan31:28

       Frank Santos, yeah, R-rated hypnotist from Rhode Island. He was amazing.

   21. GFGreg Fitzsimmons31:32

       His son does it now.

   22. JRJoe Rogan31:34

       That's crazy.

   23. GFGreg Fitzsimmons31:34

       Yeah. And it, this guy would, he would literally get... But wait, but just to stay on that, like, so what did he, what did he walk you through? Did you have an epiphany? Like, how similar is it to, like, doing mushrooms or something like that?

   24. JRJoe Rogan31:46

       It's, it's like a kind of a drug, maybe a little bit, but doesn't feel scary. It just feels relaxed, and it just, you have the, you have some, uh, additional clarity. But it does feel like with someone's guidance, you're allowed to, uh, escape from your mind and from your life, in a weird way. I feel like that's what it is. Like, when someone's talking you through it, it's like there's a thing about someone, uh, like, you're letting someone guide your brain. And this is what I said about comedy before too. When someone's killing on stage, like when Joey Diaz is killing on stage, I'm thinking the way he's thinking. Like, that's why it's so fun. It's because I'm not really calculating anything. I'm letting him control the, my brain.

   25. GFGreg Fitzsimmons32:27

       Mm-hmm.

   26. JRJoe Rogan32:27

       I'm letting him and his material take me for a ride, and that's what a, a hypnotist is doing. It's like you're letting them take you for this, like, ride of, like, peaceful, introspective thinking and clarity on your life. That's what it, that's how it felt to me. I was like, "So this is a, like, a mindset that can be achieved this way." I mean, maybe it could be achieved, um, by yourself. I don't know how to do it. I may, but I don't know much about, like, achieving psychedelic states through breathing. I really haven't really tried much other than some yoga breathing exercises that-

   27. GFGreg Fitzsimmons32:58

       Mm-hmm.

   28. JRJoe Rogan32:59

       ... make you feel a little high. But people get... They, uh, they, like, people trip balls from breathing exercises.

   29. GFGreg Fitzsimmons33:05

       Oh yeah, yeah. Well, you know, Annie Letterman's got some, uh, uh, uh, hypnotist that does finances, that helps you deal... Because money is everything. They say, well, psychologically, it's a great place to start. Like, when you come into a shrink and you negotiate the price you're going to pay them, that's the first step of your therapy because they can tell so much about you by your relationship to money-

   30. JRJoe Rogan33:25

       Hmm.
4. 45:00 – 1:00:00

   Yeah. …

   1. JRJoe Rogan45:00

      mass production and-

   2. GFGreg Fitzsimmons45:01

      Yeah.

   3. JRJoe Rogan45:01

      ... and energy consumption. But it's always been up and down. Like, if you g- I had this guy Steve Koonin on the podcast who's a physicist, and, um, he wasn't even a climate scientist, he's just a guy who just decided to, like, examine the models. And he's like, "If you go, like, thousands of years, it's all crazy. It's all like this and that. It's, it's up by this many degrees and down by that many." He's like, "It's like it's never stable. Ever." When there was humans living in fucking caves, it was never stable. But when they were looking at it over 100 years, you can get these crazy spikes. You're like, "Oh my God, look, we started using gas powered cars and it was going up and up and u-" But if you go 1,000 years, that's totally normal. All that stuff's normal. The question is, how much of an impact do we have on it? That's not totally being quantified. Like, they're not exactly sure. They know it's a significant impact, but they know this is happening anyway. And the Ice Age happened anyway. The Ice Age happened without us.

   4. GFGreg Fitzsimmons45:55

      Mm.

   5. JRJoe Rogan45:56

      Didn't have anything to do with us.

   6. GFGreg Fitzsimmons45:57

      Yeah.

   7. JRJoe Rogan45:57

      It's gonna happen again.

   8. GFGreg Fitzsimmons45:58

      Yeah.

   9. JRJoe Rogan45:58

      It's probably gonna happen again. It's probably this constant cycle. X many thousands of years, this happens, and then X many thousands of years, that happens. And that's why the fucking Sahara Desert used to be a rainforest. Did you know that?

   10. GFGreg Fitzsimmons46:11

       Hm.

   11. JRJoe Rogan46:11

       That giant ass fucking desert in Africa?

   12. GFGreg Fitzsimmons46:14

       No shit.

   13. JRJoe Rogan46:14

       That was all tropical.

   14. GFGreg Fitzsimmons46:15

       Wow.

   15. JRJoe Rogan46:16

       Yeah. Th- th- all of that stuff's like that.

   16. GFGreg Fitzsimmons46:18

       Yeah.

   17. JRJoe Rogan46:18

       That's a constant shifting from, like, these tropical rainforests into deserts.

   18. GFGreg Fitzsimmons46:24

       Yeah.

   19. JRJoe Rogan46:24

       And then back and forth-

   20. GFGreg Fitzsimmons46:25

       Yeah.

   21. JRJoe Rogan46:26

       ... over thousands and thousands of years. We just look at things through this tiny little window of history, what we wrote down.

   22. GFGreg Fitzsimmons46:34

       Hmm.

   23. JRJoe Rogan46:34

       What do we know? What do we know? "It was hot this time of year," said Doris in 1822.

   24. GFGreg Fitzsimmons46:39

       Mm-hmm.

   25. JRJoe Rogan46:40

       Like, we-

   26. GFGreg Fitzsimmons46:40

       (laughs)

   27. JRJoe Rogan46:40

       ... we don't have, like, satellite Doppler radar from 1822.

   28. GFGreg Fitzsimmons46:44

       Mm-hmm.

   29. JRJoe Rogan46:44

       So, we have, like, this window of, like, a couple of hundred years of people paying attention and writing shit down. But then when they do core samples of the Earth and they find, like, the Earth's temperature, or they, they try to, like, uh, do the calculations over, like, thousands of years, like, it's, dude, it's fucking... It's always shifting.

   30. GFGreg Fitzsimmons47:00

       Mm-hmm.
5. 1:00:00 – 1:10:54

   Yeah. …

   1. JRJoe Rogan1:00:00

      billion. So you quit your job. So he quit.

   2. GFGreg Fitzsimmons1:00:02

      Yeah.

   3. JRJoe Rogan1:00:02

      So he stopped teaching. (laughs)

   4. GFGreg Fitzsimmons1:00:03

      And now he's got no identity.

   5. JRJoe Rogan1:00:05

      (laughs)

   6. GFGreg Fitzsimmons1:00:05

      He's the guy that hangs around the house.

   7. JRJoe Rogan1:00:08

      Yeah.

   8. GFGreg Fitzsimmons1:00:08

      Get... Yeah.

   9. JRJoe Rogan1:00:09

      It's a tricky r- relationship.

   10. GFGreg Fitzsimmons1:00:11

       Yeah.

   11. JRJoe Rogan1:00:12

       You know, when a woman's worth that much more than you.

   12. GFGreg Fitzsimmons1:00:14

       Fuck.

   13. JRJoe Rogan1:00:14

       I mean, that's not... Th- that's not like she makes 100 grand a year, but I make 75, you know? (laughs)

   14. GFGreg Fitzsimmons1:00:20

       (laughs)

   15. JRJoe Rogan1:00:21

       No, no, no, no, no, no.

   16. GFGreg Fitzsimmons1:00:22

       Yeah.

   17. JRJoe Rogan1:00:22

       She has 38 billion.

   18. GFGreg Fitzsimmons1:00:25

       Shit.

   19. JRJoe Rogan1:00:26

       That's a lot of moolah, son.

   20. GFGreg Fitzsimmons1:00:27

       Yeah. Yeah.

   21. JRJoe Rogan1:00:28

       And for a woman like that, it's probably very difficult to know for sure if a man is sincere.... you know? Because there's, there's wolves out there. You know, there's male and female wolves. And there's gold diggers, but there's men that'll, like, scam on a woman like that.

   22. GFGreg Fitzsimmons1:00:44

       Mm-hmm.

   23. JRJoe Rogan1:00:45

       You know, like, that's a target. Like, she has to, like... People will, like, move to her town to try to coordinate a potential-

   24. GFGreg Fitzsimmons1:00:52

       Join the right yoga class.

   25. JRJoe Rogan1:00:54

       ... serendipitous meeting, yes.

   26. GFGreg Fitzsimmons1:00:54

       Yeah.

   27. JRJoe Rogan1:00:54

       Yes, yes. It gets sketchy.

   28. GFGreg Fitzsimmons1:00:57

       Yeah.

   29. JRJoe Rogan1:00:57

       Because she's... You know, if y- if someone's a con man or someone's just sociopathic and they have a plan, like, if you have a plan to start a business, what's the, what's the plan? Plan is I'm gonna do this and that and that, and I'm gonna make a bunch of money. Well, I have a plan to marry that lady 'cause she's worth $39 billion. Like, it, (sighs) it's kind of a business, right? Being a gold digger is a business.

   30. GFGreg Fitzsimmons1:01:18

       Yeah.

Episode duration: 3:06:00