The Joe Rogan ExperienceJoe Rogan Experience #1879 - Sober October 4
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Sober October cravings: cigars, weed, and chasing a buzz
- NANarrator
(drum roll) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out.
- NANarrator
The Joe Rogan Experience.
- JRJoe Rogan
Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. (instrumental music plays)
- ASAri Shaffir
You got some stogies, Bert?
- TSTom Segura
I bought cigars.
- ASAri Shaffir
Sick.
- TSTom Segura
There's nothing better that, we already know we're talking about this, than a cigar and coffee in the morning.
- BKBert Kreischer
In the morning, yeah.
- ASAri Shaffir
It's nice.
- JRJoe Rogan
You know what's better? A joint.
- TSTom Segura
Uh, we should address that.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, it's a real issue. (laughs)
- TSTom Segura
(laughs) Not with me, Tom.
- ASAri Shaffir
No, of course not.
- TSTom Segura
Dude, I'm, I don't have the cravings that Joe has.
- BKBert Kreischer
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
I have got cravings, yeah. (laughs)
- TSTom Segura
You gotta see Stanhope. You gotta see Stanhope in the green room these days.
- JRJoe Rogan
Stanhope? (laughs)
- TSTom Segura
Are we re- are we recording? I'm-
- ASAri Shaffir
Wait, wait, are you-
- TSTom Segura
Fucking Stanhope over here. (laughs)
- ASAri Shaffir
... are, you're not having any drinking cravings?
- JRJoe Rogan
Why are you saying Stanhope? 'Cause I smoked a cigarette?
- ASAri Shaffir
Uh.
- BKBert Kreischer
Chugging it.
- JRJoe Rogan
I smoked one yesterday.
- BKBert Kreischer
You s- you breathed it down in one gulp.
- JRJoe Rogan
No, no, no. I didn't even smoke the whole thing.
- TSTom Segura
If Camel cigarettes could do an ad of you sucking down a cigarette.
- 1:53 – 7:01
Dating, jealousy, and the “relationship stock market” analogy
- TSTom Segura
I took, you take, I, I took one chance that a couple to the far right, older dude, and I, I didn't see his chick, she was against the wall, and I was making a joke about Liam being old, and I looked over and I saw his chick and she was his age, and I went, "Oh shit, your chick's old."
- BKBert Kreischer
(gasps)
- TSTom Segura
And everyone, and he, but I go, but then I said, "Age appropriate," and then she was like, "Yeah." Like, 'cause you know-
- BKBert Kreischer
Oh, right.
- TSTom Segura
Yeah, 'cause like Liam-
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- TSTom Segura
... the biggest thing is when you upgrade.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, yeah.
- BKBert Kreischer
You upgrade, you downage.
- TSTom Segura
When you downage. We had a buddy, we had a buddy upgrade, it was his buddy's chick, and she's fucking-
- JRJoe Rogan
Women get angry at that.
- TSTom Segura
... very angry.
- BKBert Kreischer
They get angry at anyone else doing it.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh. But isn't it interesting that guys don't give a fuck? Like, if a woman is getting divorced and then she starts fucking her personal trainer-
- TSTom Segura
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
... and he's like 32-
- ASAri Shaffir
Yeah.
- TSTom Segura
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
... no one cares.
- TSTom Segura
No one cares.
- BKBert Kreischer
Yeah, like-
- JRJoe Rogan
46-year-old woman, 30-year-old personal trainer, no one cares.
- TSTom Segura
No.
- JRJoe Rogan
No, no one cares at all.
- BKBert Kreischer
Yeah, if she's single and doing it.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, good for her. Look it, she's got a hot young guy.
- ASAri Shaffir
Women are constantly threatened by youth, though.
- TSTom Segura
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- BKBert Kreischer
Yeah.
- 7:01 – 7:48
Tinder/Grindr bits and comedy-store trolling
- TSTom Segura
That's the, you know, you're kinda curious what you c-... I would love to get a Tinder profile just to be, like, I just wanna see-
- JRJoe Rogan
See what's up.
- TSTom Segura
Yeah, see what I can do.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- BKBert Kreischer
Dude.
- JRJoe Rogan
You'd, you'd get some hits, man.
- BKBert Kreischer
Can we operate your Tinder profile for a while?
- TSTom Segura
Take the hits. (laughs)
- BKBert Kreischer
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- BKBert Kreischer
Do you remember-
- JRJoe Rogan
I would go right to Grindr, I'd port that bitch right over.
- TSTom Segura
(laughs)
- BKBert Kreischer
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
That's where you're gonna get big numbers.
- BKBert Kreischer
Grindr.
- JRJoe Rogan
If you went over to Grindr-
- BKBert Kreischer
Oh, yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh my God, the bears.
- TSTom Segura
I had a Grindr, I had a Grindr account for him.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- BKBert Kreischer
Really?
- TSTom Segura
Back when we started fucking with each other-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. (laughs)
- TSTom Segura
... I opened a Grindr account for him-
- BKBert Kreischer
Oh, you were clean up.
- TSTom Segura
... and it, and it was Tom Sturrup.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- TSTom Segura
And people would hit me up, and I'd be like, I'd be like, "Oh, that's so cool, I can't make it today, but why don't you come see me perform at The Comedy Store?"
- JRJoe Rogan
(screams)
- 7:48 – 17:00
Cigar nerd talk, wine apps, and “man stuff” (meat aging and Liver King)
- BKBert Kreischer
I should have some nicotine while we do this.
- JRJoe Rogan
Like, the, about, yeah, let's fire up them stogies.
- TSTom Segura
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Um, um, you were talking about-
- TSTom Segura
How many Garcias are the best, in my opinion?
- JRJoe Rogan
Whatever you want. We got a bunch here too if you want those.
- TSTom Segura
These Jaime Garcias are fucking-
- BKBert Kreischer
Try one of those.
- JRJoe Rogan
Jaime Garcias? Jaime.
- TSTom Segura
It's by the guys who do my father's cigar.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- TSTom Segura
This is... I like a big ring gauge, I like a strong smoke.
- BKBert Kreischer
Damn, this is big.
- JRJoe Rogan
My boy, uh, Nick from Foundation Cigars was telling me that there might be, like, some sort of an embargo in Nicaragua. He's fucking terrified.
- BKBert Kreischer
No, really?
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, I mean, there's some shit going down apparently.
- BKBert Kreischer
Oh, I gotta talk to... I went to the plantation.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, did you?
- BKBert Kreischer
Me and Bobby were down there.
- JRJoe Rogan
The one in, uh, Connecticut?
- BKBert Kreischer
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
How was it?
- BKBert Kreischer
It was so cool.
- JRJoe Rogan
It's a great cigar.
- BKBert Kreischer
We saw them curing the stuff.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, nice.
- BKBert Kreischer
I'll talk to you about it later.
- TSTom Segura
There's a difference when you, when you, when you hang out with dudes that know cigars, like, Bobby Kelly knows cigars.
- JRJoe Rogan
Sure.
- BKBert Kreischer
Knows cigars.
- 17:00 – 27:25
Tom’s health wake-up: blood pressure, inflammation, reflux, and early Sober October changes
- JRJoe Rogan
Let's go. I wanna go back. I wanna go back, 'cause we, we glossed over, then we came back. When we were in the green room, you were talking about, uh, your blood pressure. You were talking about, uh, your inflammation and how good you feel just five days off of booze, what a difference it's made.
- TSTom Segura
Yeah. I feel phe- phenomenal. My blood pressure dropped immediately into perfect blood pressure. Like, it- it's 140/90 if I'm partying hard. And then two days after drinking, it's 120/70.
- BKBert Kreischer
Two days?
- TSTom Segura
Yeah. And my blood pressure drops. I mean, my stomach, my stomach starts making noises, like, really aggressive, like-
- NANarrator
Didn't it inflame at first?
- TSTom Segura
Yeah, it, it super inflamed, and then it just goes, starts going... (stomach gurgling)
- NANarrator
(laughs)
- TSTom Segura
Like, there's-
- BKBert Kreischer
That's, that's- dude, that's pretty fucking good.
- TSTom Segura
It's, it's that-
- BKBert Kreischer
That's a good impression of whatever the fuck was happening.
- NANarrator
(laughs)
- TSTom Segura
(laughs)
- BKBert Kreischer
I mean, that's another level.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- TSTom Segura
I was farting so aggressively the first day not drinking.
- NANarrator
Oh.
- TSTom Segura
I was at the store, and I was trying to have a conversation with someone about disc golf. And I was- had my ass in the main room towards the bathroom. And I was ripping farts that were, like, just coming- like, all this- I think my inflammation's so bad, it kind of blocks up my stomach. And I was gassy as fucking shit.
- NANarrator
But I don't think you account for how much you, like, when you drink, normal Bert drinking, which is a lot-
- TSTom Segura
Yeah.
- NANarrator
... you also eat crazy.
- BKBert Kreischer
Oh.
- NANarrator
You eat crazy.
- TSTom Segura
I eat wild. I don't eat bad. Last night, I grabbed those tacos and the bell pepper-
- BKBert Kreischer
Uh-huh.
- TSTom Segura
... brought it home, and I went, "I don't want this."
- BKBert Kreischer
Bullshit.
- TSTom Segura
... call it, I gave it to him. Brought John Mans and my assistant, Peter, the whole thing.
- JRJoe Rogan
That was an aggressive bullshit, Ari. (laughs)
- TSTom Segura
You wanna, you wanna call, call him right now?
- 27:25 – 33:31
Sauna + cold plunge protocols: temps, costs, and Whoop data
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, but see, that's the problem. The, the problem is, like, the reason why it's uncomfortable when you're going really hot is, like, that's what you need, 'cause that's how your body builds the heat-shock proteins. There's not the same kinda studies that are done on infrared sauna- saunas.
- NANarrator
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
Like, the 20-year Finland study? There's a Finland study that showed a 40% decrease in all-cause mortality for people who use the sauna four times a week, 20 minutes at a time, and I think it's 170, 175 degrees. But they showed a 40% decrease in strokes, heart attacks, like, everything.
- NANarrator
Well, it's-
- JRJoe Rogan
Cancer.
- NANarrator
... it's non-impact cardiovascular, correct?
- JRJoe Rogan
It is.
- NANarrator
I'm, I'm-
- JRJoe Rogan
It is.
- NANarrator
... parroting you, I think.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yes. You're sitting there and your heart is gel- ... like, I wore the heart strap the other day. Yeah, it's like-
- NANarrator
At, at Schvitz.
- JRJoe Rogan
... 134, 135, so your heart is, like, a slow, steady heart.
- NANarrator
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
'Cause I'm hot as balls in there.
- NANarrator
That's, like, working your-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- NANarrator
... 400 calories, I got just sitting in there.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, so this is it. What is it called?
- GWGuest (unclear which)
Oh, that's fucking great.
- JRJoe Rogan
What's the company called? I don't know. Uh, Lux Sauna.
- NANarrator
Lux Sauna?
- JRJoe Rogan
Sauna. Schwitz Bum? So there's ...
- NANarrator
Wait, is that speed bags in a sauna?
- JRJoe Rogan
They m- ... Yeah, yeah, speed bags in a sauna, they have chin-up bars. There, there's certain saunas that I know, I know a bunch of MMA fighters were using them. But, like, the thing is, like, this is definitely-
- GWGuest (unclear which)
Oh, shit.
- JRJoe Rogan
... better than no sauna. But the thing about the hot sauna, like, this is what Laird Hamilton told me, like, he, he had a problem-
- GWGuest (unclear which)
Laird Hamilton does it with oven mitts.
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, he gets on an Airdyne bike.
- GWGuest (unclear which)
Yeah. (laughs)
- 33:31 – 44:02
Giving kids cash to do hard stuff: cold plunge bets and party dares
- JRJoe Rogan
My daughter's friends were over the house-
- ASAri Shaffir
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
... and I told them I'd give them $1,000 if they could do a minute in it.
- ASAri Shaffir
Yeah? (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
I gave three kids a thousand bucks.
- ASAri Shaffir
Really?
- JRJoe Rogan
12-year-olds.
- TSTom Segura
(laughs)
- NANarrator
What?
- JRJoe Rogan
The parents were like, "What the fuck?"
- ASAri Shaffir
It's a tip.
- JRJoe Rogan
I'm like, "They earned it."
- ASAri Shaffir
Yeah, yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
"They earned it." I just want them to show, I just wanted-
- NANarrator
Dude's ears.
- JRJoe Rogan
... to show them that they could do it. (laughs)
- ASAri Shaffir
Were they fucking losing their minds or they were pretty confused?
- JRJoe Rogan
They were just (panting) , and they got out, "Whoo!" And they're fucking flexing.
- ASAri Shaffir
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
Slay. It's hilarious.
- ASAri Shaffir
Dude, I had a, I had a, I had met a guy at the Schvitz who's a, who's a fan of yours.
- NANarrator
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
It was fun.
- TSTom Segura
That's great.
- ASAri Shaffir
It was fun.
- TSTom Segura
Dude, I took, I took $300 in a plastic bag and put a rock in it at a party, and I threw it in the pool.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- ASAri Shaffir
(laughs)
- TSTom Segura
And I go, "Who was it?" And one of Georgia's friends, fully clothed, dives in the pool. (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- 44:02 – 49:16
Ocean obsession, surfing goals, and why the sea feels different than a lake
- JRJoe Rogan
What the fuck is it about the ocean? There is something about-
- GWGuest (unclear which)
It's so different. We spent the summer at the ocean.
- JRJoe Rogan
(sighs)
- GWGuest (unclear which)
And you know, here we live on a lake. Is, there's no comparison. Lakes are rad, but they're-
- JRJoe Rogan
No, lakes are nice, but ocean is the motherfucker.
- GWGuest (unclear which)
It is totally different thing.
- JRJoe Rogan
That's the motherfu- I, I got a house once for, uh, three months when I was in Malibu.
- GWGuest (unclear which)
How- yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- GWGuest (unclear which)
Wow.
- JRJoe Rogan
We were getting our kitchen remodeled and I said, "Let's just rent a house." We rented a house on the water.
- GWGuest (unclear which)
Wow.
- JRJoe Rogan
It's fucking amazing. You're eating breakfast and the water's right there. I was like, "Fu-"
- GWGuest (unclear which)
You just stare out at it.
- JRJoe Rogan
Those rich people aren't stupid.
- NANarrator
Mm-mm.
- JRJoe Rogan
There's a reason why they're paying fucking $100 million for a house-
- GWGuest (unclear which)
In Malibu.
- JRJoe Rogan
... that's like, on a quarter of an acre.
- GWGuest (unclear which)
The ultimate was, you know, we'd, we'd always talked about surfing. And I've always wanted to surf. So, I set a goal for myself. I had two months off, no touring. I said, "I'm gonna go to Hawaii at the end of two months. I'm gonna lose weight, get into the 240s and I'm gonna get..." Because my hardest part is standing up on a board when you're fat. So, I lost the weight, flew my daughter right before she went to college, my sister, my cameraman and my assistant down. We all went to Hawaii, stayed at Turtle Bay, did Jamie O'Brien's surf experience. And I surfed, like I surfed fucking solid two days, caught probably 25 waves. And there is a genuine, surreal connection with the earth when you're on a board sliding down a wave.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- GWGuest (unclear which)
And you're moving over on the wave and you're just watching it. It's the coolest fucking thing that I've ever done. And then you look at these guys like, like Nathan Florence and Kai Lenny and, and, and, uh, and Koa Rothman who do... They're like fucking savages and they're going into jaws, towed in, and you're just like, or that, that- Those guys are wild.
- JRJoe Rogan
That's a different thing, though.
- GWGuest (unclear which)
That's, that's, that's true.
- JRJoe Rogan
That's a different thing. Those guys are adrenaline junkies to the extreme.
- GWGuest (unclear which)
But the connection those guys have with the ocean- ... is so primal. And I, I mean, there, you're right. There's- Dude, you know what would happen every day, like when we... 'Cause we did the same thing, we rented a house in Malibu, is that we would... Because the tide changes every day, right? Yeah. And when at low tide... Sometimes low tide would be, let's say, at 8:00 AM. So, you'd look out and the, the water would be so far out that there would be rocks that you normally don't see, right? And you're like, "Oh, wow." Like you can, you can walk into the ocean because the tide's so low. Dude, high tide made me respect and fear the ocean so much. Why, what do you mean? Because it would come up and hit the house with such violence on some days that you would go... If I, an adult who can swim, were down here right now, like most likely you would drown. Smashed. And, and you would get pulled out and die.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, yeah. Yeah, that happens all the time.
- GWGuest (unclear which)
I know, but like when you're living there, when you're living there, you're like, "Holy shit."
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- GWGuest (unclear which)
Because you're seeing it every day. You look down and you're like-
- 49:16 – 57:44
Animals, pests, and bizarre rodents: retrievers, rat terriers, rat kings, and “banana rats”
- JRJoe Rogan
... I had a dog, my Mastiff, he never learned how to swim. He just was not interested in swimming.
- BKBert Kreischer
Yeah, mine too.
- JRJoe Rogan
I'd pick him up, I'd take him in the water and he would just swim right back to the stairs. I'm like-
- BKBert Kreischer
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
... "Come on, Johnny, let's go."
- BKBert Kreischer
Yep, let's try it, yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
But Marshall, my d- the, the golden retriever-
- BKBert Kreischer
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
... it's like in his DNA. (snaps fingers)
- BKBert Kreischer
Yeah.
- GWGuest (unclear which)
Oh, yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
When he was a puppy, when he was a puppy-
- BKBert Kreischer
Gotta get him in there early.
- JRJoe Rogan
... we would go to the pool and he's like, "Fuck yeah! Woo!"
- GWGuest (unclear which)
Some kids take to it quick.
- JRJoe Rogan
Just jumps in the water.
- GWGuest (unclear which)
My oldest took to it real quick.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah?
- GWGuest (unclear which)
Yeah, he swims like a fucking lunatic now.
- JRJoe Rogan
I think if they just do it early, it's fun.
- BKBert Kreischer
You gotta do it early, you gotta get your-
- GWGuest (unclear which)
Yeah.
- BKBert Kreischer
... dog in the pool right away.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- GWGuest (unclear which)
Does Marshall dive down?
- BKBert Kreischer
Keep them doing it, yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, yeah, he does every-
- BKBert Kreischer
Dives under water?
- GWGuest (unclear which)
Dives?
- JRJoe Rogan
He would. I mean if you, if the ball's under water, he'll go under water.
- 57:44 – 1:32:22
Spending money: watches, cars, lab diamonds, and treating yourself
- TSTom Segura
That's ingrained in, I think, guys ... Me and you. Maybe not Tom as much, but I've always had a problem spending money 'cause I go, "It goes to waste."
- ASAri Shaffir
You say that and you just keep buying houses.
- JRJoe Rogan
The fuck are you talking about?
- TSTom Segura
What are you talking about? You have like five-
- JRJoe Rogan
I don't, I don't buy them. Liam buys them. I don't buy them. Oh, LeeAnn buys them.
- TSTom Segura
I don't buy ... I don't fucking buy anything. I had a hard time buying this watch. You remember me?
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- TSTom Segura
Well, here ... One of my favorite stories. I, I, I go to this great watch dealer in Vegas. You, you know her, I think. You think you bought a watch from her. Chappelle buys watches from her. This is how you get the green light, is that you know the person, and then they go, "All right. Bring out the inventory."
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- TSTom Segura
So, I look at it, this watch, and she tells me-
- JRJoe Rogan
Is that a Rolex?
- TSTom Segura
Rolex. It's a Submariner, 10 grand. Heard of that brand. And she goes ... And I can't ... And I just can't pull myself to pull the trigger.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs) Ari's never had a watch, either. He doesn't wear nice watches.
- TSTom Segura
Russell tried to give me a $10,000 watch.
- JRJoe Rogan
I thought about ...
- TSTom Segura
I was like, "Don't." And he's like, "No, you need a watch." Like, dude, stop. I'm just gonna own it.
- JRJoe Rogan
You wouldn't wear, like, a nice watch? Like, a good-
- TSTom Segura
I don't want it on my ...
- JRJoe Rogan
No?
- TSTom Segura
It's just like ...
- ASAri Shaffir
Put yours on his wrist and let him, let him enjoy it.
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, okay. Here. It's a Rolex.
- TSTom Segura
So, I, I ... So, I'm sitting there, Ari. My arms are sore. I'm gonna (laughs) ... I gotta get off the fucking pick up.
- JRJoe Rogan
This is, uh, this is ... This is one that's comfortable too because it's on a silicone strap. That's my everyday walk around watch.
- TSTom Segura
Show this way. Show this way.
- JRJoe Rogan
I like it.
- TSTom Segura
So, I'm sitting at the lady. I'm having a hard time doing it. I text Tom a picture of the watch.
- JRJoe Rogan
He could barely o- ... Even use his arms. Look at this guy.
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