The Joe Rogan Experience

Joe Rogan Experience #1882 - Iliza Shlesinger

Iliza Shlesinger is a comedian, actor, writer, and host of the podcast "Ask Iliza Anything." Her new book, "All Things Aside: Absolutely Correct Opinions," and her new Netflix special, "Hot Forever," both premiere on October 11. www.iliza.com

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Jun 26, 20242h 4mWatch on YouTube ↗

WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT

Iliza Shlesinger, Roe v. Wade, cancel culture, and digital chaos collide

Joe Rogan and Iliza Shlesinger move from light banter about food, parenting, and touring into a wide-ranging conversation on modern culture, politics, and the internet.
They discuss life in LA versus Texas, socialized medicine in Europe, pregnancy and health, and the realities of being a touring comic and mother.
The middle of the episode dives into drugging at clubs, fentanyl, cancel culture, Me Too, gendered threats, and how online mobs weaponize outrage.
They close by examining abortion politics, Iran’s protests, North Korea, social credit systems, American manufacturing, body image, Kardashians, TikTok, bots on Twitter, and personal responsibility in a hyper-connected world.

IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING

5 ideas

Online outrage often comes from powerless, unhappy people seeking control.

Rogan and Shlesinger argue that many cancel-culture dogpiles and vicious comments are sport for people with little going on in their own lives, who enjoy destroying perceived ‘successful’ targets from behind anonymity.

Women face uniquely violent and sexualized backlash for speech.

Using examples like the Dixie Chicks and her own experiences, Iliza notes that women who express political or unpopular opinions routinely receive rape and death threats in ways men rarely do, which changes how women calculate personal risk.

Abortion politics are weaponized beyond genuine religious belief.

Iliza suggests many at the top use religion as a ‘digestible’ wrapper for abortion restrictions while pursuing racial, social, or economic agendas, creating single-issue voters and blocking cooperation on otherwise reasonable conservative ideas.

Social media has created new, largely unregulated power to punish.

They compare cancel culture and Twitter mobs to zombies: feeding them attention only attracts more; without norms or laws around accountability, anonymous users can ruin reputations while facing no real consequences.

Authoritarian control can emerge quickly under the right stressors.

Discussing Iran, North Korea, and hypothetical US civil unrest, Rogan and Shlesinger warn that crises like war or grid failure could open the door to harsh crackdowns, digital currencies tied to social credit, and loss of basic freedoms.

WORDS WORTH SAVING

5 quotes

If men had to carry, you could get an abortion at a frozen yogurt shop.

— Iliza Shlesinger

Are you defined by your worst moment?

— Joe Rogan

At least I had the guts to say it, put my face with it, and stand there in front of people. I didn’t fire it off from the toilet behind an avatar of a dumpster.

— Iliza Shlesinger

If you don’t want a person to express themselves, then you don’t believe in real freedom.

— Joe Rogan

Every day you wake up and you just have to decide what part of the environment do you want to hurt.

— Iliza Shlesinger

Life in Los Angeles vs. Texas, traffic, and urban etiquetteTouring as a comedian, health issues, pregnancy, and socialized medicine in EuropeDrugging, fentanyl, safety for women, and drinking culture in comedyCancel culture, Me Too, online mobs, and gendered harassmentAbortion, religious politics, Roe v. Wade, and same-sex marriageGlobal repression: Iran’s morality police, North Korea’s dictatorship, and civil war fearsSocial media toxicity: TikTok, bots on Twitter, surveillance, body image, and Kardashians’ influence

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