Joe Rogan Experience #1886 - Robert Kelly

1. 0:00 – 1:57

   Reading glasses, aging eyes, and the quest for “cool” frames

   1. NANarrator0:00

      (drumbeats) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out. The Joe Rogan Experience.

   2. JRJoe Rogan0:06

      Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night. All day. (rock music) Are you gonna do the glasses or no glasses?

   3. RKRobert Kelly0:14

      I just can't see up there.

   4. JRJoe Rogan0:16

      I like them.

   5. RKRobert Kelly0:17

      You like them?

   6. JRJoe Rogan0:17

      They look good.

   7. RKRobert Kelly0:18

      Yeah?

   8. JRJoe Rogan0:18

      Yeah.

   9. RKRobert Kelly0:18

      You like them?

   10. JRJoe Rogan0:19

       Yeah. (laughs) They look fucking great.

   11. RKRobert Kelly0:19

       You want to try them on? Try them on. Let me show you what they look like. Dude, those look fucking tough. Those are tough, dude. These fucking look good, dude. (laughs) You gotta get a pair of glasses, dude.

   12. NANarrator0:32

       Yeah.

   13. RKRobert Kelly0:32

       You, do you need glasses?

   14. JRJoe Rogan0:33

       Uh, I do for reading.

   15. RKRobert Kelly0:34

       Those are, those are what I, I can't see my phone without them.

   16. JRJoe Rogan0:37

       Really?

   17. RKRobert Kelly0:37

       Yeah, I can't fucking see my phone without these.

   18. JRJoe Rogan0:39

       H- what power are those?

   19. RKRobert Kelly0:40

       It's, uh, I believe it's one eye is different than the other. It's a prescription. Um-

   20. JRJoe Rogan0:45

       One eye's different than the other, really?

   21. RKRobert Kelly0:46

       Yeah, like, one can see better or something like that.

   22. JRJoe Rogan0:48

       Did you get injured, or is it just natural?

   23. RKRobert Kelly0:50

       No, just around 40. I think they call reading glasses in England, uh, 45s, because around 45 is when your-

   24. JRJoe Rogan0:57

       (laughs)

   25. RKRobert Kelly0:58

       ... eyes start going.

   26. JRJoe Rogan0:58

       That's what happened to me.

   27. RKRobert Kelly0:59

       Yeah.

   28. JRJoe Rogan0:59

       That's probably exactly when it happened to me. I remember doing the podcast-

   29. RKRobert Kelly1:03

       Yeah.

   30. JRJoe Rogan1:03

       ... and I, I couldn't read off a laptop. I was actually doing a podcast with Neil deGrasse Tyson, and, uh, I wanted to ask him about something, and I pulled out the laptop, and I was like, "I can't fucking read this."
2. 1:57 – 5:29

   Custom optician culture: East Village frames and the appeal of craftsmanship

   1. RKRobert Kelly1:57

      Th- this is from, uh, this guy in the East Village, my friend Anthony.

   2. JRJoe Rogan2:01

      They look like they're from the East Village.

   3. RKRobert Kelly2:03

      He's w- (laughs)

   4. JRJoe Rogan2:04

      They do. They look cool.

   5. RKRobert Kelly2:05

      Yeah, this guy makes them. Like, this is like, this is like a Rolex.

   6. JRJoe Rogan2:09

      Oh.

   7. RKRobert Kelly2:09

      There's, there's 500 of these made. This is 230-something of 500.

   8. JRJoe Rogan2:14

      Why doesn't he make more?

   9. RKRobert Kelly2:15

      It's not him. It's, uh, I can't read it. I- inside, J- Jean Paul whoever.

   10. JRJoe Rogan2:20

       Oh, so it's like a designer.

   11. RKRobert Kelly2:21

       But he, he's a, a, what is it? Opti-

   12. JRJoe Rogan2:24

       Optometrist?

   13. RKRobert Kelly2:25

       Optometrist. Hard word to fucking pull. (laughs)

   14. JRJoe Rogan2:29

       (laughs)

   15. RKRobert Kelly2:29

       But, uh, he's cool as shit. You know, you walk in, and he customizes everything. Like, he'll take this fancy sun- the glass frame, and he'll be like, "Let's put a, this tint on it. Let me do this." And then you go in-

   16. JRJoe Rogan2:41

       Oh.

   17. RKRobert Kelly2:41

       ... and he cut, he, like, he'll sand it down to fit your nose.

   18. JRJoe Rogan2:45

       Ooh, that's nice.

   19. RKRobert Kelly2:46

       So you can pick, like, all these crazy frames, and then he makes it yours.

   20. JRJoe Rogan2:51

       Ah.

   21. RKRobert Kelly2:51

       Which is great. I mean, it costs money, but I love shit like that. I love when-

   22. JRJoe Rogan2:55

       It seems like it's worth it, though.

   23. RKRobert Kelly2:56

       ... I love when people take something and make it unique and not everybody has it.

   24. JRJoe Rogan3:02

       Customize.

   25. RKRobert Kelly3:03

       Cu-

   26. JRJoe Rogan3:03

       Yes.

   27. RKRobert Kelly3:03

       I love people who customize shit like that.

   28. JRJoe Rogan3:05

       Yes.

   29. RKRobert Kelly3:05

       Like, this guy could just be, "Yep, here's your prescription. Here's your Bausch & Lombs or whatever."

   30. JRJoe Rogan3:10

       Mm-hmm.
3. 5:29 – 8:53

   From tables to heirlooms: how objects hold family memory

   1. JRJoe Rogan5:29

      Me too. Yeah, I, I love when people make shit. You know, I love, uh, when people make art. I love when people make, like, tables, like this table-

   2. RKRobert Kelly5:37

      Yes.

   3. JRJoe Rogan5:37

      When I got this table done. I love the fact that somebody carved this. This is, uh, our friend Drew.

   4. RKRobert Kelly5:43

      Yeah.

   5. JRJoe Rogan5:43

      What was Drew's last name, Jamie? Who did the, the table? Drew Teague. He's a bad motherfucker, and he made us this table. We had another one like this at the old studio, but it was a little bit too big. It was enormous. And so we had him construct this.

   6. RKRobert Kelly5:59

      Well, you look at a table like this, and you're like, "Yeah, I could do that." And then you realize-... how har- I watch wood stuff on Instagram all the time. It's my favorite. Just seeing some guy taking a tree and making it into something-

   7. JRJoe Rogan6:12

      Yeah.

   8. RKRobert Kelly6:12

      ... is nuts to me.

   9. JRJoe Rogan6:14

      Why is that so, it's so satisfying, right? Watching someone carve things outta wood and saw and hammer and nail and make it all precise.

   10. RKRobert Kelly6:20

       Yeah. Like, it, there's so much that goes into it and this one dude is just sitting there. And it was a tree.

   11. JRJoe Rogan6:27

       Yeah.

   12. RKRobert Kelly6:27

       It was, it was in a forest and now it's, it's in somebody's house and generations are gonna eat off this thing and talk about fucking everything.

   13. JRJoe Rogan6:35

       Yeah.

   14. RKRobert Kelly6:36

       My table's from the '50s.

   15. JRJoe Rogan6:38

       Really?

   16. RKRobert Kelly6:38

       I got a, um... Yeah, when we moved into my house up in Westchester, uh, they were like, "You wanna buy this furniture? 500 bucks." 'Cause the lady was dying or whatever, and she lived in the house her whole life. And when I looked at it, I'm like, "A 100%" 'cause it's mid-century modern, uh, you know, uh, furniture. It's like, the Danish were making this furniture, you know, Europe was making these amazing, uh, wood furniture back, like, Mad Men type of furniture.

   17. JRJoe Rogan7:05

       Mm.

   18. RKRobert Kelly7:05

       Right? I, and America started making 'em. I was like, "This is that stuff." So we took it and, uh, I found out the table's worth 2,800 bucks. The chairs are worth, uh, you know, 250 each. The liquor cabinet's worth 4,000. So all the-

   19. JRJoe Rogan7:19

       Wow.

   20. RKRobert Kelly7:19

       ... stuff we got was from the '50s when she got it. And I, I'm sitting there going, "This whole family grew up on this table."

   21. JRJoe Rogan7:27

       Mm.

   22. RKRobert Kelly7:27

       And now we, uh, it's very important in my house that when I'm home, we have dinner, um, me and my wife and my son. We sit at the table and we have dinner. And I talk, because that's the time where-

   23. JRJoe Rogan7:41

       You bond.

   24. RKRobert Kelly7:42

       You bond.

   25. JRJoe Rogan7:42

       You find out about your day.

   26. RKRobert Kelly7:44

       You need a break from-

   27. JRJoe Rogan7:45

       Yeah.

   28. RKRobert Kelly7:45

       ... your day.

   29. JRJoe Rogan7:46

       Yeah.

   30. RKRobert Kelly7:46

       Where, you know, you're doing all this shit and now you're gonna sit here and just talk. No iPads, no homework, no fucking Instagram, no bullshit. Just sit down and talk. And I'd say, "What was the best part? What was the worst part of your day?" You know? And, uh, "Uh, well, this happened." Recess, of course. I'm like, "No, fucking recess don't count."
4. 8:53 – 11:26

   Watches and gear obsession: engineering, Garmin vs Apple Watch, and knives

   1. RKRobert Kelly8:53

      When you get a really nice watch, the craftsmanship that goes into that watch, fuck the watch. Like, "Oh, I got a Rolex." It's not about that. There's like-

   2. JRJoe Rogan9:01

      Engineering.

   3. RKRobert Kelly9:02

      ... the engineering of it, and then when you scratch it for the first time, you get so bummed out. But it, that's your scratch.

   4. JRJoe Rogan9:09

      Yeah.

   5. RKRobert Kelly9:09

      You know what I mean? So the next guy that gets this watch, or my son when he gets it, that's my life. There's-

   6. JRJoe Rogan9:15

      There's a big market for those really old Rolexes.

   7. RKRobert Kelly9:17

      I know.

   8. JRJoe Rogan9:17

      People love those.

   9. RKRobert Kelly9:18

      You can't get 'em. You can't get 'em.

   10. JRJoe Rogan9:20

       Real old ones. Go to Bob's. You know, Bob's Watches? Do you know what that is?

   11. RKRobert Kelly9:23

       Yeah. No, yeah. I know about-

   12. JRJoe Rogan9:24

       Yeah. Oh, you're a, so you're a watch guy?

   13. RKRobert Kelly9:26

       I li-

   14. JRJoe Rogan9:26

       You're into watches?

   15. RKRobert Kelly9:26

       I, I like watches, yeah. I'm a big fan of, uh, of, of watches. Yeah. I love 'em.

   16. JRJoe Rogan9:30

       Yeah. Me too.

   17. RKRobert Kelly9:30

       I love 'em. I go, I go to Mayers in, um, Tampa, and I go to, uh, Watches of Switzerland in New York because-

   18. JRJoe Rogan9:37

       What is Mayers?

   19. RKRobert Kelly9:38

       Mayers is a big watch place in, uh-

   20. JRJoe Rogan9:42

       Just a watch collector's place?

   21. RKRobert Kelly9:44

       ... in Tampa. No, they're just, uh, Watches of Switzerland.

   22. JRJoe Rogan9:46

       Jewelry store? Mm-hmm.

   23. RKRobert Kelly9:46

       It's like an authorized Rolex dealer.

   24. JRJoe Rogan9:49

       Ah.

   25. RKRobert Kelly9:49

       So you wanna go-

   26. JRJoe Rogan9:50

       So just, you're just all about Rolexes?

   27. RKRobert Kelly9:52

       Uh, no, I like, I like German watches. Um, I got a, I like, I like watches. Like when I went to, when I toured with Louis, uh, in Europe this year, in Paris, I was like, "I wanna get a French watch." I got this $400 watch called Lip. It's just L-I-P.

   28. JRJoe Rogan10:07

       Hmm.

   29. RKRobert Kelly10:08

       It's a, it's a nice watch. It's a diver's watch. It's not, it's 400 bucks, but it's, it's gorgeous. It's a... I like watches. I have, uh, two, uh, Fenix, the Garmin watches.

   30. JRJoe Rogan10:20

       Mm.
5. 11:26 – 24:29

   Bushcraft Party Boys: Catskills primitive camping, coyotes, and bear protocols

   1. JRJoe Rogan11:26

      Bushcraft.

   2. RKRobert Kelly11:27

      Bushcraft, dude. I love bushcraft.

   3. JRJoe Rogan11:28

      What does that mean? What does that word mean?

   4. RKRobert Kelly11:30

      Mm, I mean-

   5. JRJoe Rogan11:31

      It means like-

   6. RKRobert Kelly11:31

      I don't-

   7. JRJoe Rogan11:31

      ... learning how to, like, live in the bush, right?

   8. RKRobert Kelly11:33

      I'm not... (laughs) It, I don't, I'm not a bushcrafter. You never heard of me and Ari and Joe List, the Bushcraft Party Boys?

   9. JRJoe Rogan11:40

      (laughs) No.

   10. RKRobert Kelly11:42

       (laughs) You've never...

   11. JRJoe Rogan11:43

       No. (laughs) You say it like it's, like a fucking hit album or something.

   12. RKRobert Kelly11:47

       (laughs) It was-

   13. JRJoe Rogan11:48

       How would I know?

   14. RKRobert Kelly11:48

       It was a fucking hit. It was a hit.

   15. JRJoe Rogan11:50

       I've never heard of it. What's the Bushcraft Party Boys? What does that mean?

   16. RKRobert Kelly11:53

       Dude, we... Bushcrafting is like when you go in the woods and you survive. You make a-

   17. JRJoe Rogan11:59

       Right.

   18. RKRobert Kelly11:59

       ... shelter.

   19. JRJoe Rogan12:00

       Right.

   20. RKRobert Kelly12:00

       You make a chair. You, you, you, you get all the stuff you need.

   21. JRJoe Rogan12:03

       Do you know how to do all that stuff?

   22. RKRobert Kelly12:04

       And I, yeah, I know how to do it. It's not-

   23. JRJoe Rogan12:05

       Can you start a fire?

   24. RKRobert Kelly12:06

       Yeah, 100%.

   25. JRJoe Rogan12:07

       With flint?

   26. RKRobert Kelly12:08

       Uh, with... I, I haven't done flint, but I have a flint.... I do have a-

   27. JRJoe Rogan12:12

       Oh.

   28. RKRobert Kelly12:12

       ... steel and flint. But I, you know, um, I have a ferro rod. It comes with a knife.

   29. JRJoe Rogan12:16

       Oh.

   30. RKRobert Kelly12:16

       Like a bushcraft... Like this guy, Jack Laugher and Ray Mears is the guy who started it in England, uh, bushcraft, big bushcraft guy, and they'll just go out in the woods and, uh... Did it go out?
6. 24:29 – 29:18

   Bears, badgers, and megafauna: fear, defense tools, and ancient predators

   1. JRJoe Rogan24:29

      Well, they have a real, um, bear problem in New Jersey. You wanna know about this? This is kinda crazy. The highest population of bears in the entire country is in New Jersey.

   2. RKRobert Kelly24:40

      That's crazy.

   3. JRJoe Rogan24:41

      There's more bears per capita in New Jersey.

   4. RKRobert Kelly24:44

      Because you can't kill 'em.

   5. JRJoe Rogan24:45

      'Cause you can't kill 'em now.

   6. RKRobert Kelly24:46

      Yeah.

   7. JRJoe Rogan24:46

      They used to be able to-

   8. RKRobert Kelly24:47

      Yeah.

   9. JRJoe Rogan24:47

      ... until this new governor. This new governor came along, "Let's stop the bear hunt."

   10. RKRobert Kelly24:51

       (laughs)

   11. JRJoe Rogan24:52

       "'Cause they're teddy bears and they're yogi and they're our friends."

   12. RKRobert Kelly24:56

       (laughs)

   13. JRJoe Rogan24:56

       Did you see the video? I posted a video on my Instagram yesterday of a hiker. He's, uh, uh, climbing up this mountain.

   14. RKRobert Kelly25:02

       Yes. (laughs)

   15. JRJoe Rogan25:02

       And the bear comes down the mountain-

   16. RKRobert Kelly25:04

       (laughs)

   17. JRJoe Rogan25:04

       ... and tries to eat him.

   18. RKRobert Kelly25:05

       Yeah, I saw that.

   19. JRJoe Rogan25:05

       And he, and he's like-

   20. RKRobert Kelly25:06

       Kicking it?

   21. JRJoe Rogan25:06

       ... screaming. And the noises this guy makes, put, pull that up. The noises this guy makes are so fucking primal. He's like... (screams)

   22. RKRobert Kelly25:13

       (laughs)

   23. JRJoe Rogan25:16

       'Cause he's about to get... Let me give you some-

   24. NANarrator25:17

       (screaming)

   25. JRJoe Rogan25:18

       Look at that thing. That's a small bear too. He's lucky. That's probably like a six-foot bear.

   26. NANarrator25:29

       (screaming)

   27. RKRobert Kelly25:30

       (laughs) I can't, I can't fuck with them though, dude, 'cause you'd think, you, you'd think you'd do something.

   28. JRJoe Rogan25:34

       No. There's not much you can do. He-

   29. NANarrator25:36

       (screaming)

   30. JRJoe Rogan25:36

       It was really interesting, like play it again because at the beginning of it, he's, um, he's... It comes right down at him.
7. 29:18 – 33:05

   Old monster movies and reviving extinct animals: ‘Prophecy’ and de-extinction debates

   1. RKRobert Kelly29:18

      Why don't they make a movie... They made one movie a long time ago with a crazy bear. I don't know if you remember it. I forget the name of it. There was, you know, some nuclear lake and the animals ate out of it and-

   2. JRJoe Rogan29:29

      (laughs)

   3. RKRobert Kelly29:29

      ... tadpoles were this big. And there was a fucking bear like that just going around killing everybody.

   4. JRJoe Rogan29:36

      What was it called?

   5. RKRobert Kelly29:37

      I, uh... It started with a P. It was scary as shit though.

   6. JRJoe Rogan29:41

      Prophecy.

   7. RKRobert Kelly29:42

      Prophecy.

   8. JRJoe Rogan29:42

      Oh, I remember that.

   9. RKRobert Kelly29:43

      Remember this movie?

   10. JRJoe Rogan29:45

       That was 1979?

   11. RKRobert Kelly29:47

       Right.

   12. JRJoe Rogan29:47

       Wow, I didn't know. You know that's when Alien was, the movie Alien? That was 1979.

   13. RKRobert Kelly29:51

       Really?

   14. JRJoe Rogan29:52

       Yeah, I thought it was li- might- way later than that. That's Prophecy.

   15. RKRobert Kelly29:54

       Yeah. (laughs)

   16. JRJoe Rogan29:55

       Look at that fucking stupid thing. (laughs)

   17. RKRobert Kelly29:57

       That thing go... It's people just being in a tent and it just goes... And just-

   18. JRJoe Rogan30:01

       Oh my God, that's amazing.

   19. RKRobert Kelly30:03

       ... just attacks. Yeah, look at the, look at the car.

   20. JRJoe Rogan30:04

       That's amazing. Look at it. (screams) (laughs)

   21. RKRobert Kelly30:05

       That's a... Nice truck. Was that a-

   22. JRJoe Rogan30:09

       Look at that bear.

   23. RKRobert Kelly30:09

       ... was that a Defender? That's a, an old Jeep maybe? That's a fucking... That's hilarious. Um, yeah, they're... You, you think you would have like, "Oh, this is the movie." (laughs)

   24. JRJoe Rogan30:23

       (laughs) Cool old cars.

   25. RKRobert Kelly30:25

       Oh, look who's in it?

   26. JRJoe Rogan30:26

       Oh my God, what's her face from Rocky.

   27. RKRobert Kelly30:28

       Doesn't that suck that she's what's her face from Rocky?

   28. JRJoe Rogan30:30

       That's what she is.

   29. RKRobert Kelly30:30

       (laughs) I know, but it's-

   30. JRJoe Rogan30:31

       That's what's her face from Rocky.
8. 33:05 – 39:57

   ‘Killbox’ special: Elvis inspiration, Louis CK’s production help, and the medical scare mid-set

   1. RKRobert Kelly33:05

      Uh, I stay at his house when I go down there. I play the, the Sidesplitters, right? Um, speaking of Tampa, I used to film my special down there, too. Not to segue into that fucking plug.

   2. JRJoe Rogan33:16

      The special looks great.

   3. RKRobert Kelly33:17

      Did you get it?

   4. JRJoe Rogan33:18

      Yeah, I did. And it's on Louis? You doing it on louisck.com?

   5. RKRobert Kelly33:21

      Louisck.com. He actually, he's the best, dude. He came to me-

   6. JRJoe Rogan33:26

      I love him to death.

   7. RKRobert Kelly33:26

      I was opening for him in Europe, and he was like, "Do you have a special?" I was like, "No, I can't... Nobody will give me one."

   8. JRJoe Rogan33:33

      There it is, Killbox.

   9. RKRobert Kelly33:34

      Nobody will give me one. And he's like, "I'm shooting your special."

   10. JRJoe Rogan33:37

       Wh- where, what club was this at?

   11. RKRobert Kelly33:39

       We made this.

   12. JRJoe Rogan33:40

       (clears throat)

   13. RKRobert Kelly33:40

       'Cause I told him, we sat down, and like, "What do you want to do?" I was like, "Elvis' '68 special, his comeback special. I want that look we- 10-by-10 stage, 12 inches off the ground, surrounded by people." I wanna, I want it to be like the best con- like the seller. Sidesp- Killbox, you know that-

   14. JRJoe Rogan34:03

       Oh, yeah.

   15. RKRobert Kelly34:03

       ... that's a term that we use.

   16. JRJoe Rogan34:04

       Yeah, yeah, yeah.

   17. RKRobert Kelly34:04

       Like, "Dude, this place is a Killbox." The store, you know?

   18. JRJoe Rogan34:06

       Nice.

   19. RKRobert Kelly34:07

       Killbox. So we created this stage where, uh, uh, Coastal Creatives in St. Pete. We went in there, and they were like, "You can do whatever you want." They gave us carte blanche. So Louis got his whole team, his, you know, his Emmy, Grammy Award-winning team that does all his specials, and put them on me. And he showed up, and we shot this special. I tried to get a outfit like Elvis, but nothing fit at the time.

   20. JRJoe Rogan34:33

       (laughs)

   21. RKRobert Kelly34:33

       So I could only get that jacket, and I couldn't zip it. But, uh, we shot this special, man. And-

   22. JRJoe Rogan34:38

       So that was Anthony Giordano's crew, the same people that do my stuff.

   23. RKRobert Kelly34:42

       Is it?

   24. JRJoe Rogan34:42

       Yeah, they do all my specials too.

   25. RKRobert Kelly34:44

       Dude, I can't-

   26. JRJoe Rogan34:45

       Yeah, they're the best.

   27. RKRobert Kelly34:45

       'Cause I, I wrote this on a piece of paper, I drew it, like, "This is what I want." And they-

   28. JRJoe Rogan34:49

       Yes, yeah.

   29. RKRobert Kelly34:50

       And then you show up that day, and you're like, "Holy shit."

   30. JRJoe Rogan34:53

       Anthony is the, he's the director of the UFC.
9. 39:57 – 57:55

   Pandemic comedy economics: Florida gigs, masks in crowds, and bypassing gatekeepers

   1. RKRobert Kelly39:57

      So we went out and did it. We got it. And, and I love Tampa. I, they, they ... That-

   2. JRJoe Rogan40:01

      They're wild people.

   3. RKRobert Kelly40:02

      Dude, Florida saved me during the pandemic. That's why ... I, I was gonna do it in Boston, but I'm like ... When that happened, I lost 55 shows in one night.

   4. JRJoe Rogan40:11

      Hm.

   5. RKRobert Kelly40:11

      I had a theater tour going with Creeps with Kids, Ron Bennington, Vos, Florentine, and me were doing this great theater thing that was sold out. And it all went away in one night.

   6. JRJoe Rogan40:20

      Hm.

   7. RKRobert Kelly40:20

      Like, I got a call from my agent, Matt Frost, he's like, "Dude, it's all gone." I'm like, "What?" He goes, "All your shows." And it's like, dude, I'm not a ... You know, I'm a club guy too, you know? So this was ... I finally had a theater tour that was successful. I was kinda crawling my way and I finally had that, like, "All right, let's do this."

   8. JRJoe Rogan40:39

      Right.

   9. RKRobert Kelly40:39

      "This is great." And it was (sighs) gone. So Florida saved my ass.

   10. JRJoe Rogan40:45

       Hm.

   11. RKRobert Kelly40:45

       Because Side Splitters, Versani's, McCurdy's, you know, um, all these clubs down there, I could go down and fill the place up and do shows. So I was like, "I gotta go down there and do this." And, and Mike Kalta, you know, promoted the fuck out of it, so-

   12. JRJoe Rogan40:59

       Well it was one of the only places where you could do shows.

   13. RKRobert Kelly41:01

       It was one of the only places you could do shows, but you could do shows without, without the masks.

   14. JRJoe Rogan41:05

       Yes.

   15. RKRobert Kelly41:06

       Because, to be honest dude, I'd rather not perform than, than ... I can't ... I need your mouth-

   16. JRJoe Rogan41:12

       Yeah.

   17. RKRobert Kelly41:13

       ... I need your mouth.

   18. JRJoe Rogan41:14

       Yeah.

   19. RKRobert Kelly41:15

       'Cause other than that, you c- the ... The eyebrow movement is the same as a great joke or you're offended. You know what I mean?

   20. JRJoe Rogan41:22

       (laughs)

   21. RKRobert Kelly41:22

       Like, (sighs) I d-

   22. JRJoe Rogan41:23

       And you hear (blubbering noises)

   23. RKRobert Kelly41:25

       Yeah, I don't ... I don't know if you hate me or love me. It's the same Muppet shit.

   24. JRJoe Rogan41:29

       Laughter through a mask is just-

   25. RKRobert Kelly41:30

       It was the s-

   26. JRJoe Rogan41:30

       ... very strange.

   27. RKRobert Kelly41:31

       It wa- it was the worst. I-

   28. JRJoe Rogan41:32

       I only did one show with people with masks on in the crowd. Well, I did a few outside with Chappelle where they were supposed to have masks on-

   29. RKRobert Kelly41:39

       Yeah.

   30. JRJoe Rogan41:39

       ... but people didn't really have masks on.
10. 57:55 – 1:09:47

    Redefining success: gratitude practice, tiny house living, and raising a kid outdoors

    1. RKRobert Kelly57:55

       Well, success, uh, th- they kind of mind fuck you with this success thing. Because you... It's, it's a, it's... You have the potential to have dreams come true, things you felt as a little kid or places you wanted to go or things you wanted to get, or the life you wanted is... There's potential that that could happen in this business, right?

    2. JRJoe Rogan58:16

       Yeah.

    3. RKRobert Kelly58:17

       If I was a painter, I mean, you're gonna paint. But i- in this business, you could become that thing that you dreamed about as a kid. And there's a time when you have to realize, at least for me, where I looked around one day and I'm trying to become this thing. And I'm like, "I'm successful right now. I have a house, I got a wife, I got a son, I have a, two cars. You know, uh, one's a truck and one's a Honda CRV. I, but I have it, like I have all this stuff."

    4. JRJoe Rogan58:51

       From talking shit.

    5. RKRobert Kelly58:52

       From talking shit.

    6. JRJoe Rogan58:54

       (laughs)

    7. RKRobert Kelly58:54

       I'm... I did it.

    8. JRJoe Rogan58:56

       Yeah.

    9. RKRobert Kelly58:56

       I'm out. Whatever-

    10. JRJoe Rogan58:57

        Yeah.

    11. RKRobert Kelly58:57

        ... e- whatever else I have-

    12. JRJoe Rogan58:59

        Is gravy.

    13. RKRobert Kelly59:00

        ... is gravy.

    14. JRJoe Rogan59:01

        Yeah.

    15. RKRobert Kelly59:01

        I have friends, real friends. And I'm like, "I did it, dude. I-"

    16. JRJoe Rogan59:07

        That's making it.

    17. RKRobert Kelly59:08

        That's making it.

    18. JRJoe Rogan59:09

        Yes.

    19. RKRobert Kelly59:09

        And I can go on any stage and fucking make people laugh.

    20. JRJoe Rogan59:12

        And you know what the opposite of that is? There's people that are very successful, they're very famous, they have shows, they have this, they have that, and no one likes them.

    21. RKRobert Kelly59:22

        Yeah.

    22. JRJoe Rogan59:22

        They're the opposite.

    23. RKRobert Kelly59:23

        Right.

    24. JRJoe Rogan59:23

        That's not making it.

    25. RKRobert Kelly59:24

        It's not making it.

    26. JRJoe Rogan59:25

        You think you're making it, because on paper you're successful. So, you're always trying to compare your success to other people's success-

    27. RKRobert Kelly59:32

        Yeah.

    28. JRJoe Rogan59:32

        ... and you're always trying to stay ahead of them, because it's the only thing you have.

    29. RKRobert Kelly59:35

        That's it.

    30. JRJoe Rogan59:35

        'Cause you don't have the friends and you don't have the family.

Episode duration: 3:05:54