Joe Rogan Experience #1899 - Yannis Pappas

1. 0:00 – 15:00

   (drumbeats) Joe Rogan podcast,…

   1. NANarrator0:00

      (drumbeats) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out. The Joe Rogan Experience.

   2. JRJoe Rogan0:06

      Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. (rock music plays) The great and powerful Joe Rogan, ladies and gentlemen.

   3. YPYannis Pappas0:15

      Joe Rogan, my man. The greater and more powerful Joe Rogan.

   4. JRJoe Rogan0:17

      Good to see you, my brother. What the fuck's happening?

   5. YPYannis Pappas0:19

      Not much. Just been in Austin, did the Vulcan this weekend. It was great.

   6. JRJoe Rogan0:24

      That's a great room.

   7. YPYannis Pappas0:25

      Great room. Great crowds. Been having fun. Austin, had barbecue about 15 times already.

   8. JRJoe Rogan0:31

      (laughs)

   9. YPYannis Pappas0:32

      (laughs) Every time I come here, it, I just, I don't have solid shits. It's a tough town to have a solid shit in it. Hard to find fiber.

   10. JRJoe Rogan0:39

       Do you, um, have an issue after you eat there when you say solid shit?

   11. YPYannis Pappas0:44

       What do you mean?

   12. JRJoe Rogan0:44

       What, what do you mean by solid shit?

   13. YPYannis Pappas0:46

       I mean, I just, yeah, I mean, there's just no fiber in the meal. It's just meat, jalapenos, cheddar sausage-

   14. JRJoe Rogan0:52

       That's it? There's a little fiber in those?

   15. YPYannis Pappas0:53

       A little tiny bit. Not enough to-

   16. JRJoe Rogan0:54

       Coleslaw?

   17. YPYannis Pappas0:55

       Little coleslaw.

   18. JRJoe Rogan0:56

       Get the coleslaw in there to lube up the pipes.

   19. YPYannis Pappas0:59

       Yeah, I got some peach cobbler.

   20. JRJoe Rogan1:02

       (laughs)

   21. YPYannis Pappas1:02

       (laughs) There is a layer of grease around it, but I don't know, yeah, yeah.

   22. JRJoe Rogan1:05

       Yeah.

   23. YPYannis Pappas1:06

       (laughs)

   24. JRJoe Rogan1:07

       The, the, the body shape is consistent amongst people that enjoy barbecue.

   25. YPYannis Pappas1:11

       Yeah.

   26. JRJoe Rogan1:11

       It is a hearty body shape.

   27. YPYannis Pappas1:12

       It's very parish, yeah.

   28. JRJoe Rogan1:14

       Very farmer, fucking, bear, bear huggish world over there.

   29. YPYannis Pappas1:18

       Yeah.

   30. JRJoe Rogan1:18

       Lost me. Oh, sorry. Uh, yeah, but it's the fucking best barbecue on earth. You know it all came from, uh, German immigrants?
2. 15:00 – 30:00

   It's weird. …

   1. YPYannis Pappas15:00

      then that instinct comes out, that killer wolf instinct comes out around squirrels.

   2. JRJoe Rogan15:03

      It's weird.

   3. YPYannis Pappas15:03

      They're just like, and then they see a fucking squirrel and they lock in and they just-

   4. JRJoe Rogan15:07

      It's weird.

   5. YPYannis Pappas15:07

      ... wanna murder. My dog, uh, my dog did that to a skunk recently.

   6. JRJoe Rogan15:12

      Oh, no.

   7. YPYannis Pappas15:12

      Yeah.

   8. JRJoe Rogan15:13

      (laughs)

   9. YPYannis Pappas15:13

      It's my first brush with that, and it is brutal.

   10. JRJoe Rogan15:17

       That happened to me when I was 13.

   11. YPYannis Pappas15:18

       Dude, skunks are effective.

   12. JRJoe Rogan15:21

       Oh, yeah. It's horrible. We had to get, uh, tomato juice. This was like, when I was, uh, 13 when we had a dog that got attacked by a skunk, this is '79 or '80 or something like that. I guess it was 1980, so no one knew... There was no fucking solvents you could buy at the pet store to clean that shit off. You use tomato juice.

   13. YPYannis Pappas15:40

       Yeah, I don't even think any of that stuff works too. I mean, this happened, like, a couple months ago. My dog still smells-

   14. JRJoe Rogan15:44

       (laughs)

   15. YPYannis Pappas15:44

       ... like a homeless person. It's like a homeless person is sleeping in my house. (laughs)

   16. JRJoe Rogan15:48

       (laughs) It's so crazy how effective that smell is.

   17. YPYannis Pappas15:51

       It was so funny to watch too 'cause my dog, I saw my dog saw the, see the skunk, and my dog's sweet too. She's so sweet. She saw this, she saw the skunk, and I could see in her mind she was going like, "Oh, it's just like a tiny little squirrel, and I'm about to fuck this shit up."

   18. JRJoe Rogan16:03

       (laughs)

   19. YPYannis Pappas16:04

       So she lunges at it, and skunks are badass, dude. They're like, they're like the NRA, uh, like gun-carrying Republicans of the animal kingdom.

   20. JRJoe Rogan16:15

       (laughs)

   21. YPYannis Pappas16:15

       'Cause my dog's ready to fucking do jujitsu, fuck it up, and that skunk just went, "I wouldn't do that if I was you. I'm strapped." You know what I mean? My dog lunges, and the skunk just turns around and fucking laser beam diarrhea shot right in the face.

   22. JRJoe Rogan16:30

       (laughs)

   23. YPYannis Pappas16:30

       (laughs) Dude, they're-

   24. JRJoe Rogan16:30

       You were there for the whole thing?

   25. YPYannis Pappas16:31

       I saw the whole thing.

   26. JRJoe Rogan16:33

       (laughs)

   27. YPYannis Pappas16:33

       Dude, they're the only animal that's strapped.

   28. JRJoe Rogan16:35

       Yeah, they're strapped.

   29. YPYannis Pappas16:35

       They got a gun.

   30. JRJoe Rogan16:36

       It's true.
3. 30:00 – 45:00

   Yeah. …

   1. JRJoe Rogan30:00

      Fuck her. I'm gonna check the app."

   2. YPYannis Pappas30:01

      Yeah.

   3. JRJoe Rogan30:01

      And then y- and then you're swiping right, or what is it? Left? Right?

   4. YPYannis Pappas30:04

      It's, uh... Yeah.

   5. JRJoe Rogan30:05

      Whatever it is.

   6. YPYannis Pappas30:05

      I'm all for...

   7. JRJoe Rogan30:06

      You're give, you're giving them a star, a thumbs up, whatever the fuck you have to do.

   8. YPYannis Pappas30:08

      Yeah, swipe right or swipe left.

   9. JRJoe Rogan30:10

      Yeah.

   10. YPYannis Pappas30:10

       On Tinder, yeah.

   11. JRJoe Rogan30:11

       What they're doing is it's like-... you have too much access.

   12. YPYannis Pappas30:16

       It's, they've taken away the challenge or the hunt of anything.

   13. JRJoe Rogan30:20

       It's a fuck-fest.

   14. YPYannis Pappas30:21

       Yeah.

   15. JRJoe Rogan30:21

       It's a wild fuck-fest.

   16. YPYannis Pappas30:22

       You could basically order pussy to your house like, like food delivery.

   17. JRJoe Rogan30:26

       Yeah, or dick.

   18. YPYannis Pappas30:27

       Yeah.

   19. JRJoe Rogan30:27

       Whatever you want.

   20. YPYannis Pappas30:27

       Or dick. Yeah, whatever it is. The dick comes easier-

   21. JRJoe Rogan30:29

       And-

   22. YPYannis Pappas30:29

       ... quicker too.

   23. JRJoe Rogan30:30

       ... how, how long before people are doing it virtually? You know? How long before, when they develop haptic feedback suits and fucking neural links, and put on VR goggles, people are just gonna, f- just fuck random strangers virtually? And it won't even count.

   24. YPYannis Pappas30:44

       Yeah. I actually thought about this, right? Like, I used to always want a quick death.

   25. JRJoe Rogan30:49

       (laughs)

   26. YPYannis Pappas30:49

       (laughs) You know, I always used to say like, "Dude, I just want a quick death." But then I'm like... I started thinking, like, if I have a quick death, then I'm only gonna be able to think of, like, one person and, like, be like, "Oh, I'm gonna miss that person. I love that person," 'cause it's so quick. But now I want, like, a long, drawn-out death because of the metaverse. 'Cause, like, you could have cancer and be incapacitated, but you could just go in the metaverse and be walking and fucking and... There's gotta be some pleasure in living mentally in the metaverse even though you're dying of, like, some terminal disease.

   27. JRJoe Rogan31:21

       Once something comes up-

   28. YPYannis Pappas31:22

       I'm gonna keep you alive. I'm in the metaverse.

   29. JRJoe Rogan31:23

       Yeah. But-

   30. YPYannis Pappas31:23

       I got a girlfriend, I got a house, I got a wife.
4. 45:00 – 1:00:00

   Wow. …

   1. JRJoe Rogan45:00

      so that, like, things that live on islands, they get really small, like little, tiny elephants and shit, and tiny humans, and that's what they think, like, in order to preserve resources, these people j- just got really small. Interesting. It's sort of like when you have a plant in a smaller pot- Yes. ... that only grows a certain- Like bonsai trees- Yeah. ... I guess, 'cause you keep trimming them. Yeah. But I think that might be a different thing. Well, like, I've had some plants where I've had them in tiny pots and then they didn't grow. They only grew to, like, this much, and then I put them in bigger pots, and they just fucking- You know what's fucked though? ... got bigger. With lizards, the opposite happens. You leave lizards on an island, they get bigger. Wow. That's like the Komodo dragon. Yeah. That fucking thing's huge. Yeah. That's like the biggest monitor lizard. And rats, rats never stop growing apparently. (gasps) Like, they never stop growing. What? Yeah, they're insane. They just keep growing. What's the biggest rat ever? They, there's a big one. There's a fucking big one. Who's the biggest rat? I was looking at something recently, and it's a massive rat. Also, they got, they can, they can chew through brick. Those things are fucking... They're gonna survive if we get hit by an asteroid. Are their teeth like a beaver teeth, where they keep growing? Yeah, they keep growing, and they can chew through- That's wild. ... brick. That's wild. Th- through brick they can chew. I believe it. Um- And, and they're nasty too. ... the Hawaii, let's go to Hawaii thing first, before we get to the biggest rat. All right, all right. So I def- I found that- Do- do they have a legend of a tiny person? There's a myth- Ah. ... of something called the Me- Menehune, Hawaii people. Ah, here we go. Um, historical accounts of the little people of Hawaii. I guarantee there was probably something similar. I don't guarantee. (laughs) I'm just taking a guess. But, I mean, if they have the thing in the Island of Flores, have you heard about the Hobbit people? No. I've never heard about it. Okay, so this mythical clan of Hawaiian people are known, uh, as supernatural stoneworkers with a longstanding connection to the west side of the Island of Kauai, Hawaii. Historically, Hawaiians believe that Mene... I don't wanna fuck this up. Menehune, Hawaiian people, to be small humans. In fact, there was a clan of people on Kauai and another on, how do you say that? Uh, Kuai, Kuai. Ka- Kau- Kau- ... Kau- ... Kau- ... Kau. ... area of the Big Island in the early 1800s that Hawaiians identified with an earlier migration. This highly respected R.S. Cookendall, Professor Emeritus of History at the University of Hawaii, also concluded that the Menehune were humans. Oh, wow. Interesting. But then, uh, another guy, ethnologist Bruce Cartwright slums up, sums up the problem with, "The lack of any evidence of material culture in the Hawaiian islands indicating a race of pre-Hawaiians and the lack of ancient traditions relating to such a race, other than references to the Menehune people, has been a puzzle." However, in 1851, the British, uh, bishop rather, Bishop Museum Bulletin, The Menehune of Polynesia, described as the only survey about Menehune theories, concluded that the Hawaiian people were not real- What? ... real humans. So what were they? I don't know. The, this bulletin claimed that Hawaiian culture was altered under the influence of European contact, and thus stone structures whose history had been forgotten were credited to the mythical Menehune. Oh, that's possible too. Um, but for sure they existed in the Island of Flores 'cause they have bones, and so what they found out is...... there's a, a mythical creature called the orang pendek that lives in... It's, like, Polynesia or something like that. We've talked about this before. But they still have sightings, where people claim to see these tiny, little, uh, human-like creatures, what they're covered in here. They always thought it was bullshit, but then they found them on the Island of Flores. They found bones and they found tools, so they think these were, in some way, some sort of intelligent human-type creature that lived alongside human beings and lived in this one time period.

   2. YPYannis Pappas48:49

      Wow.

   3. JRJoe Rogan48:50

      And, so they for sure know that-

   4. NANarrator48:52

      I don't know how to respond to that.

   5. JRJoe Rogan48:54

      What happened?

   6. YPYannis Pappas48:55

      (laughs)

   7. JRJoe Rogan48:55

      Is that... Is it your watch?

   8. YPYannis Pappas48:56

      Fuckin' Siri.

   9. JRJoe Rogan48:57

      Fuckin' Siri.

   10. YPYannis Pappas48:57

       Yeah.

   11. JRJoe Rogan48:57

       That bitch is li- always listening.

   12. YPYannis Pappas48:59

       Yeah.

   13. JRJoe Rogan48:59

       Will you, um, go to the a- um, Island of Flores timeline? Um, uh, f- homo floresiensis. Floresieses? That's how you say it. Flor-

   14. YPYannis Pappas49:12

       So, essentially, there was-

   15. JRJoe Rogan49:12

       Floresiensis. Floresiensis. Homo floresiensis.

   16. YPYannis Pappas49:16

       Oh, wow. So there was multiple types of hominids living-

   17. JRJoe Rogan49:19

       Yeah.

   18. YPYannis Pappas49:19

       ... like, concurrently?

   19. JRJoe Rogan49:21

       Yeah, exactly. So when do they think the, um... What's the timeline of when they think they existed? So it says now dated from 60,000 to 100,000 years ago. Or the most recent evidence of their existence back to 50,000 years ago. Okay, so originally, they thought it was 12,000. Okay, here it is. Initially thought to be only 12,000 years ago, however, more extensive stratigraphic, stratigraphic and chronological work has been pushed, uh, or has pushed the dating of the most recent evidence of its existence back to 50,000 years ago. The homo fluoresciensis skeletal material is now dated from 60,000 years to 100,000 years ago. Stone tools recovered alongside the skeletal remains were from archeological horizons ranging from 50,000 years ago to 190,000 years ago. So, 50,000 years ago, for sure, there's, like, anatomically similar humans, and those things lived along with us. So it's like when did they die off? Because in order for them to find them, they have to find their bones. And the thing about, like, leaving bones behind is things eat bones. So, like, if you, if most things that die in the forest, like, you ain't gonna find shit. Like, try finding a dead mountain lion or a dead bear. You'll find them for a little while, and then eventually they're eat, they'll eat each other. They eat the bones. And rats will eat the bones, and, and then you get, like, little pieces of bone all over the place.

   20. YPYannis Pappas50:48

       Right.

   21. JRJoe Rogan50:48

       And eventually those will probably be eaten by insects and other creatures. Like, over the course of, like, 100 years or 1,000 years or 5,000 years, things almost have to be fossilized, or they have to be covered in s- some mud or some shit where they can dig to 'em and nothing eats 'em. Nothing... So, like, how many of 'em existed that you have shit that you're finding from 50,000 years ago?

   22. YPYannis Pappas51:10

       Right.

   23. JRJoe Rogan51:10

       'Cause they found quite a few.

   24. YPYannis Pappas51:11

       Right.

   25. JRJoe Rogan51:12

       Like, and, uh, well, when did they die off?

   26. YPYannis Pappas51:14

       Right.

   27. JRJoe Rogan51:14

       Was it 10,000 years ago? Was it 20? You know, did, were they around 100 years ago? Like, what, what is that?

   28. YPYannis Pappas51:20

       Right, it's hard to know, right?

   29. JRJoe Rogan51:21

       Yeah.

   30. YPYannis Pappas51:21

       Because they don't have n- a lot of evidence left to find.
5. 1:00:00 – 1:08:04

   That's what you call…

   1. JRJoe Rogan1:00:00

   2. YPYannis Pappas1:00:00

      That's what you call a strong virtue segment right there.

   3. JRJoe Rogan1:00:02

      Yeah.

   4. YPYannis Pappas1:00:03

      Yeah.

   5. JRJoe Rogan1:00:03

      It's ... But that's for a challenge. Nobody gets mad at you for wasting water for a cold plunge.

   6. YPYannis Pappas1:00:07

      Right.

   7. JRJoe Rogan1:00:07

      'Cause now you're doing it for your health.

   8. YPYannis Pappas1:00:09

      Right.

   9. JRJoe Rogan1:00:09

      Right.

   10. YPYannis Pappas1:00:09

       Or if you leave the shower running while you're taking a shit. You know, people probably do that in LA too. And they shower extra long, like I said, because just they gotta wash off the shame.

   11. JRJoe Rogan1:00:17

       Hm, shame.

   12. YPYannis Pappas1:00:18

       The things they gotta do in LA. You gotta shower ... You gotta curl up in the corner-

   13. JRJoe Rogan1:00:21

       (sighs)

   14. YPYannis Pappas1:00:21

       ... and just let the water hit you. Just say, "God, what I had to do."

   15. JRJoe Rogan1:00:25

       Speaking of shame, this, uh ... Now, I'm just getting ... This is a per- ... You and I are the perfect people to talk about this crypto collapse.

   16. YPYannis Pappas1:00:32

       'Cause we're scientists. Oh, okay.

   17. JRJoe Rogan1:00:33

       'Cause we-

   18. YPYannis Pappas1:00:33

       Economists.

   19. JRJoe Rogan1:00:34

       Yes.

   20. YPYannis Pappas1:00:35

       (laughs)

   21. JRJoe Rogan1:00:35

       We have strong opinions and no information.

   22. YPYannis Pappas1:00:37

       (laughs)

   23. JRJoe Rogan1:00:38

       Which is a great combination when you're dealing with the fact that people have lost billions and billions of dollars.

   24. YPYannis Pappas1:00:44

       (laughs)

   25. JRJoe Rogan1:00:44

       But what ... So, Jamie's been filling me in on this over the weekend.

   26. YPYannis Pappas1:00:47

       And he also is an economist.

   27. NANarrator1:00:48

       I am, yeah. I don't ... Not the ... (laughs)

   28. YPYannis Pappas1:00:50

       Jamie-

   29. JRJoe Rogan1:00:50

       Our source is our go-to expert on this-

   30. NANarrator1:00:52

       I just find interesting links and say, "Hey, check this out." (laughs)

Episode duration: 3:23:15