Joe Rogan Experience #1899 - Yannis Pappas

1. 0:00 – 2:09

   Austin comedy weekend, barbecue overload, and why Texas BBQ is so heavy

   1. NANarrator0:00

      (drumbeats) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out. The Joe Rogan Experience.

   2. JRJoe Rogan0:06

      Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. (rock music plays) The great and powerful Joe Rogan, ladies and gentlemen.

   3. YPYannis Pappas0:15

      Joe Rogan, my man. The greater and more powerful Joe Rogan.

   4. JRJoe Rogan0:17

      Good to see you, my brother. What the fuck's happening?

   5. YPYannis Pappas0:19

      Not much. Just been in Austin, did the Vulcan this weekend. It was great.

   6. JRJoe Rogan0:24

      That's a great room.

   7. YPYannis Pappas0:25

      Great room. Great crowds. Been having fun. Austin, had barbecue about 15 times already.

   8. JRJoe Rogan0:31

      (laughs)

   9. YPYannis Pappas0:32

      (laughs) Every time I come here, it, I just, I don't have solid shits. It's a tough town to have a solid shit in it. Hard to find fiber.

   10. JRJoe Rogan0:39

       Do you, um, have an issue after you eat there when you say solid shit?

   11. YPYannis Pappas0:44

       What do you mean?

   12. JRJoe Rogan0:44

       What, what do you mean by solid shit?

   13. YPYannis Pappas0:46

       I mean, I just, yeah, I mean, there's just no fiber in the meal. It's just meat, jalapenos, cheddar sausage-

   14. JRJoe Rogan0:52

       That's it? There's a little fiber in those?

   15. YPYannis Pappas0:53

       A little tiny bit. Not enough to-

   16. JRJoe Rogan0:54

       Coleslaw?

   17. YPYannis Pappas0:55

       Little coleslaw.

   18. JRJoe Rogan0:56

       Get the coleslaw in there to lube up the pipes.

   19. YPYannis Pappas0:59

       Yeah, I got some peach cobbler.

   20. JRJoe Rogan1:02

       (laughs)

   21. YPYannis Pappas1:02

       (laughs) There is a layer of grease around it, but I don't know, yeah, yeah.

   22. JRJoe Rogan1:05

       Yeah.

   23. YPYannis Pappas1:06

       (laughs)

   24. JRJoe Rogan1:07

       The, the, the body shape is consistent amongst people that enjoy barbecue.

   25. YPYannis Pappas1:11

       Yeah.

   26. JRJoe Rogan1:11

       It is a hearty body shape.

   27. YPYannis Pappas1:12

       It's very parish, yeah.

   28. JRJoe Rogan1:14

       Very farmer, fucking, bear, bear huggish world over there.

   29. YPYannis Pappas1:18

       Yeah.

   30. JRJoe Rogan1:18

       Lost me. Oh, sorry. Uh, yeah, but it's the fucking best barbecue on earth. You know it all came from, uh, German immigrants?
2. 2:09 – 5:01

   Why some nations conquered and others just ate well: cuisine, war, and immigrant food myths

   1. YPYannis Pappas2:09

      I went there. Their, their, their cuisine is atrocious.

   2. JRJoe Rogan2:12

      Is it? German food?

   3. YPYannis Pappas2:13

      I went to, like, a four-star, uh, German restaurant in Munich and it was just, it was ballpark food. It was like frank, applesauce, sauerkraut and that, and mustard.

   4. JRJoe Rogan2:23

      When you go to a place like Italy, the food is so good, it's amazing they get them to go to war.

   5. YPYannis Pappas2:28

      (laughs) Yeah. Yeah.

   6. JRJoe Rogan2:29

      You know, like, I think, that's my theory, my, my conspiracy theory about why English food was so bland.

   7. YPYannis Pappas2:33

      Yeah.

   8. JRJoe Rogan2:33

      Well, England dominated the fucking world forever-

   9. YPYannis Pappas2:36

      (laughs) Yeah.

   10. JRJoe Rogan2:36

       ... with that bullshit ass food.

   11. YPYannis Pappas2:38

       And the Germans too, yeah.

   12. JRJoe Rogan2:39

       (laughs)

   13. YPYannis Pappas2:39

       They don't-

   14. JRJoe Rogan2:40

       Nobody was fucking great food. Thailand's not taking over anybody.

   15. YPYannis Pappas2:43

       Right, yeah.

   16. JRJoe Rogan2:44

       Right? (laughs)

   17. YPYannis Pappas2:45

       (laughs) They know how to enjoy life so they-

   18. JRJoe Rogan2:47

       Right.

   19. YPYannis Pappas2:47

       ... they're motivated, yeah.

   20. JRJoe Rogan2:48

       Exactly. Like how'd they talk the Italians into doing it?

   21. YPYannis Pappas2:51

       I don't... They, they barely did. I mean, they weren't that good... No offense, they weren't that great fighters. I mean, they invaded Greece World War II, we beat the shit out of them.

   22. JRJoe Rogan2:58

       Yeah, listen, my people are not designed for that.

   23. YPYannis Pappas3:00

       No.

   24. JRJoe Rogan3:01

       They're not designed to go to war. But they were with the Roman army, which is wild.

   25. YPYannis Pappas3:04

       That is true.

   26. JRJoe Rogan3:05

       Back then when syphilis was running rampant-

   27. YPYannis Pappas3:06

       Yeah.

   28. JRJoe Rogan3:06

       ... everybody was dying when they were 12-

   29. YPYannis Pappas3:08

       Yeah.

   30. JRJoe Rogan3:08

       ... you could get people to fight easier.
3. 5:01 – 6:16

   Offal and survival cuisine: menudo, Greek kokoretsi, and eating the parts others discard

   1. JRJoe Rogan5:01

      That's what interesting about some cultures, they take food that we would just chuck and they make it delicious.

   2. YPYannis Pappas5:06

      It's like a delicacy.

   3. JRJoe Rogan5:06

      Like Mexicans with menudo, when you get all the, uh, the, the... What is it called? Uh, it's intestines, but it's, uh, what is the word for it? Tripe? Yes, tripe. So it's like cow stomach and stuff like that, and it's all boiled up in this pot with this, like, heavy, thick, spicy red sauce. You ever have menudo? Like real menudo from a real legit Mexican spot?

   4. YPYannis Pappas5:27

      I haven't, no.

   5. JRJoe Rogan5:28

      Oh my God.

   6. YPYannis Pappas5:29

      Yeah.

   7. JRJoe Rogan5:29

      There was some spots in LA where you could get menudo. And there's this one, what's it called? The Big Burrito? That was in, um... They have, like, weekend menudo at some of these spots.

   8. YPYannis Pappas5:38

      Yeah.

   9. JRJoe Rogan5:38

      Like, they only cook it up on Saturday and Sunday when everyone's hungover. It's fucking insane.

   10. YPYannis Pappas5:43

       Well, the Greeks have the same thing, uh, it's a delicacy and I love it and I was raised on it, it's called kokoretsi, which is the guts...... of the lamb-

   11. JRJoe Rogan5:51

       Oh.

   12. YPYannis Pappas5:51

       ... wrapped in the intestines, and it's delicious. And then mayorita, the soup, they put, uh, guts in the soup, and it's delicious.

   13. JRJoe Rogan5:58

       Isn't that what chitterlings is?

   14. YPYannis Pappas6:00

       Kinda, yeah, yeah.

   15. JRJoe Rogan6:00

       Isn't that-

   16. YPYannis Pappas6:01

       Yeah, I think the same thing.

   17. JRJoe Rogan6:02

       But how do you pr- you spell it differently, right? It's spelled like chitterlings, I think?

   18. YPYannis Pappas6:06

       And I think it's the-

   19. JRJoe Rogan6:07

       How do- but people say-

   20. YPYannis Pappas6:07

       ... they do the pig.

   21. JRJoe Rogan6:08

       It's the pig.

   22. YPYannis Pappas6:08

       The pig.

   23. JRJoe Rogan6:08

       Is it pig intestines?

   24. YPYannis Pappas6:09

       Yeah, I think it's the pig intestines.

   25. JRJoe Rogan6:09

       Is that what it is?

   26. YPYannis Pappas6:10

       Yeah. We do, we do the lamb, dude. Greeks are the biggest predator of lambs.

   27. JRJoe Rogan6:14

       Mm.

   28. YPYannis Pappas6:14

       It's not like the wolves, it's Greeks.

4. 6:16 – 7:55

   The ethics of eating babies (lamb/veal) and the horror of industrial veal

   1. JRJoe Rogan6:16

      Lamb's very good for you.

   2. YPYannis Pappas6:17

      Oh, it's great.

   3. JRJoe Rogan6:18

      It's very easy to digest, apparently, for l- um, like, uh, you know Jordan Peterson, he's on that carnivore diet thing. His wife is, but she only eats lamb, and she's found, like, that's the, her sweet spot, is just only eating lamb. It's very nutritious.

   4. YPYannis Pappas6:32

      Yeah, it's sweet meat.

   5. JRJoe Rogan6:34

      It's very good.

   6. YPYannis Pappas6:35

      Yeah.

   7. JRJoe Rogan6:35

      It's very good. But it's also a baby lamb.

   8. YPYannis Pappas6:39

      (laughs) What can you do?

   9. JRJoe Rogan6:39

      Or a baby sheep.

   10. YPYannis Pappas6:40

       Yeah.

   11. JRJoe Rogan6:40

       Uh, rather, that's what a lamb is.

   12. YPYannis Pappas6:41

       Yeah. What can you do?

   13. JRJoe Rogan6:42

       It's like we have a name for it.

   14. YPYannis Pappas6:44

       Yeah.

   15. JRJoe Rogan6:44

       We're just eating babies.

   16. YPYannis Pappas6:45

       Yeah. (laughs)

   17. JRJoe Rogan6:46

       (laughs) But that's what veal is too. Like, if you have a veal Parmesan-

   18. YPYannis Pappas6:50

       Yeah.

   19. JRJoe Rogan6:51

       ... you're eating a, a baby cow.

   20. YPYannis Pappas6:53

       Yeah. Well-

   21. JRJoe Rogan6:53

       But the que- the thing is, like, is that worse or better than killing it when it's older and eating it?

   22. YPYannis Pappas6:58

       I was about to think that, yeah. Is it better, like, to, to not let it have a good life so it doesn't... I think it's fine.

   23. JRJoe Rogan7:05

       The lamb thing is different than the veal thing though, 'cause the veal thing is actually a process where they give a baby cow anemia. The way they used to do it, they used to tie i- it's really horrific. They used to tie them up and they would feed 'em, like, w- uh, uh, some of 'em were milk-fed, they would call it milk-fed, um, veal, but I don't know if that's how they did it. I don't know what they fed them. But whatever they fed them, they kept them in the dark, they kept them motionless so that they have n- no muscle. Like, whatever you get, it's a very small amount of meat that's on it in comparison to a cow, obviously. But that m- that meat is just soft as butter.

   24. YPYannis Pappas7:44

       Yeah.

   25. JRJoe Rogan7:44

       Which is kinda creepy.

   26. YPYannis Pappas7:45

       It's creepy, but-

   27. JRJoe Rogan7:46

       Not even kinda.

   28. YPYannis Pappas7:47

       But what, are we anthropomorphizing it though? Like, does the, does the lamb know? Does the animal know?

   29. JRJoe Rogan7:53

       We know.

   30. YPYannis Pappas7:53

       Yeah, we know.
5. 7:55 – 14:27

   Bears aren’t teddy bears: trichinosis, bear hunts, and population management

   1. JRJoe Rogan7:55

      That's why, you know, to me, it's always been weird if people freak out if you eat bears. If you tell people that you eat bear, they're like, "What the fuck is wrong with you?" Like, if there's a thing out there that you should be eating, it's bears.

   2. YPYannis Pappas8:09

      But trichinosis.

   3. JRJoe Rogan8:10

      Yeah, but you just, same with pork.

   4. YPYannis Pappas8:12

      Yeah.

   5. JRJoe Rogan8:12

      You just cook it.

   6. YPYannis Pappas8:13

      Yeah.

   7. JRJoe Rogan8:13

      You just have to make sure you have a meat thermometer.

   8. YPYannis Pappas8:16

      Yeah.

   9. JRJoe Rogan8:16

      Yeah.

   10. YPYannis Pappas8:16

       But it's gotta be perfect, right, with bear though? Or else you c-

   11. JRJoe Rogan8:19

       Yeah.

   12. YPYannis Pappas8:19

       ... you gotta, like-

   13. JRJoe Rogan8:19

       Yeah.

   14. YPYannis Pappas8:19

       ... know what you're doing.

   15. JRJoe Rogan8:21

       Yeah, yeah, you can get it.

   16. YPYannis Pappas8:22

       Yeah.

   17. JRJoe Rogan8:22

       And, uh, um, apparently, according to my friend Steve Rinella, who's an expert in this, 'cause he actually has trichinosis, um, he said that 90% of all the cases in trichinosis in this country come from people eating black bear.

   18. YPYannis Pappas8:36

       How many people are eating black bear?

   19. JRJoe Rogan8:37

       A lot. You'd be surprised.

   20. YPYannis Pappas8:39

       Sc-

   21. JRJoe Rogan8:39

       You, you'd, you'd be surprised, particularly in Alaska, they eat it a lot up there. They eat it a lot in, um, places where it's traditional to hunt there, like Montana. Even in New Jersey. New Jersey finally r- is reinstituting the, uh, bear hunt, 'cause the governor, one of the things he ran on was stopping the bear hunt, but then human-bear encounters rose by over 200%. There was a lot of human-bear encounters with aggressive bears and so they said, "Oh, you really do need to manage these populations." 'Cause they just keep getting bigger, and bigger, and bigger, and big- and it only takes, like, a couple years for a bear to get big enough to fuck you up.

   22. YPYannis Pappas9:13

       Yeah. (laughs)

   23. JRJoe Rogan9:14

       It's not like, (laughs) it's not like a person. You know?

   24. YPYannis Pappas9:15

       Yeah, yeah.

   25. JRJoe Rogan9:16

       It's quick.

   26. YPYannis Pappas9:17

       Yeah.

   27. JRJoe Rogan9:17

       And so then you have all these four or five-year-old giant fucking bears running around, eating people's dogs, tearing up your neighborhood. They're, they're, like, real predators. They don't know the rules.

   28. YPYannis Pappas9:27

       W- I, they have 'em up w- uh, by me, and supposedly, th- are they dangerous? 'Cause people are like, "Ah, they're not dangerous. Oh, y- of course they're dangerous."

   29. JRJoe Rogan9:33

       Of course they're dangerous.

   30. YPYannis Pappas9:33

       "They always run away, they just-"
6. 14:27 – 17:37

   Dogs, squirrels, skunks, and the brutal effectiveness of skunk spray

   1. JRJoe Rogan14:27

      Well, I'll tell you what he is. He's the enemy of all squirrels. That motherfucker loves squirrels.

   2. YPYannis Pappas14:31

      Oh, he's got it out for squirrels?

   3. JRJoe Rogan14:32

      He's got it out for squirrels.

   4. YPYannis Pappas14:33

      Yeah.

   5. JRJoe Rogan14:33

      That's his number one hobby-

   6. YPYannis Pappas14:34

      Yeah.

   7. JRJoe Rogan14:34

      ... is hunting squirrels.

   8. YPYannis Pappas14:35

      (laughs)

   9. JRJoe Rogan14:36

      It's crazy 'cause it's like, uh, other than that, he's the sweetest dog of all time.

   10. YPYannis Pappas14:39

       Yeah.

   11. JRJoe Rogan14:40

       But with sw- squirrels, he's the boogeyman.

   12. YPYannis Pappas14:42

       (laughs)

   13. JRJoe Rogan14:42

       He's a murderer.

   14. YPYannis Pappas14:44

       Yeah.

   15. JRJoe Rogan14:44

       He's just kinda, he's kinda soft, you know? He's a big fluffy guy. So he's not like, he's not like a fucking raptor. Like, he's really clever about how he approaches it, but he catches them slipping.

   16. YPYannis Pappas14:54

       Yeah. (laughs)

   17. JRJoe Rogan14:55

       He catches them slipping. He's caught quite a few slipping.

   18. YPYannis Pappas14:57

       It's cool when you see, like, a sweet dog and, and then that instinct comes out, that killer wolf instinct comes out around squirrels.

   19. JRJoe Rogan15:03

       It's weird.

   20. YPYannis Pappas15:03

       They're just like, and then they see a fucking squirrel and they lock in and they just-

   21. JRJoe Rogan15:07

       It's weird.

   22. YPYannis Pappas15:07

       ... wanna murder. My dog, uh, my dog did that to a skunk recently.

   23. JRJoe Rogan15:12

       Oh, no.

   24. YPYannis Pappas15:12

       Yeah.

   25. JRJoe Rogan15:13

       (laughs)

   26. YPYannis Pappas15:13

       It's my first brush with that, and it is brutal.

   27. JRJoe Rogan15:17

       That happened to me when I was 13.

   28. YPYannis Pappas15:18

       Dude, skunks are effective.

   29. JRJoe Rogan15:21

       Oh, yeah. It's horrible. We had to get, uh, tomato juice. This was like, when I was, uh, 13 when we had a dog that got attacked by a skunk, this is '79 or '80 or something like that. I guess it was 1980, so no one knew... There was no fucking solvents you could buy at the pet store to clean that shit off. You use tomato juice.

   30. YPYannis Pappas15:40

       Yeah, I don't even think any of that stuff works too. I mean, this happened, like, a couple months ago. My dog still smells-
7. 17:37 – 24:30

   Super-smellers and human atrophy: bloodhounds, bear noses, and tech outsourcing our senses

   1. JRJoe Rogan17:37

      You know what they say it's like? It's like, you know how a bloodhound can track a person with just, like, a little bit of clothing? You know, they're using their ears and shit and all the, the jowls. The reason why all that stuff is floppy is because it kicks up smell.

   2. YPYannis Pappas17:50

      Oh.

   3. JRJoe Rogan17:50

      You know how like disgusting people fart and then they go like that with smell?

   4. YPYannis Pappas17:53

      (laughs)

   5. JRJoe Rogan17:54

      ... (laughs) take a good whiff of their farts.

   6. YPYannis Pappas17:57

      Yeah. (laughs)

   7. JRJoe Rogan17:57

      Well, that's wafting up smell.

   8. YPYannis Pappas17:59

      Yeah.

   9. JRJoe Rogan17:59

      Well, that's what that bloodhound's doing when it's running, 'cause they're running-

   10. YPYannis Pappas18:03

       Oh.

   11. JRJoe Rogan18:03

       ... and their ears are flopping and all the, the lips are... All that shit is moving around, and it's sending that smell into this super powerful nose. Well, the way they smell stuff is kinda the way... It's similar in, in, like, the ability to detect it, like we smell skunk.

   12. YPYannis Pappas18:18

       That's so interesting.

   13. JRJoe Rogan18:19

       'Cause, you know, a skunk can blast someone a couple of blocks away.

   14. YPYannis Pappas18:23

       Yeah.

   15. JRJoe Rogan18:23

       And you're driving home-

   16. YPYannis Pappas18:24

       You smell it.

   17. JRJoe Rogan18:25

       ... in your fucking car.

   18. YPYannis Pappas18:26

       (laughs)

   19. JRJoe Rogan18:26

       And you're like, "Wow, somebody got a skunk. Oh, Jesus."

   20. YPYannis Pappas18:29

       (laughs)

   21. JRJoe Rogan18:29

       But it could be pretty far away from you.

   22. YPYannis Pappas18:31

       Yeah, yeah.

   23. JRJoe Rogan18:31

       It doesn't have to be, like, right there.

   24. YPYannis Pappas18:32

       Yeah. And the wind takes it, kinda just pull it in, yeah.

   25. JRJoe Rogan18:34

       Apparently, that's what it's like to be a bloodhound. You're like, "What the fuck is that? Where, where is that bitch?"

   26. YPYannis Pappas18:38

       Yeah.

   27. JRJoe Rogan18:39

       "Where the fuck is he?"

   28. YPYannis Pappas18:39

       Yeah.

   29. JRJoe Rogan18:40

       Now, a bear's nose is something in the range of... See how much stronger a bear's nose is than a bloodhound? 'Cause I don't wanna overstate this, but I think it's, like, 900%.

   30. YPYannis Pappas18:52

       More than I-
8. 24:30 – 29:13

   Comedy craft and religion-as-a-bill: Ari Shaffir’s special, faith quirks, and cult dynamics

   1. YPYannis Pappas24:30

      His special was so good. Uh, it was, it really was... It, I think a... It made me think at least, like, "Damn, I- I want to step it up for the next one. I may- maybe have it, uh, be about a theme or at least make the production look as good as he did." I just had him on my podcast, and he was telling me about how he really put a lot of money and effort into the, the set and even the lighting around the, um-

   2. JRJoe Rogan24:53

      Yeah.

   3. YPYannis Pappas24:53

      ... the theater. It looked so good.

   4. JRJoe Rogan24:55

      Yeah.

   5. YPYannis Pappas24:56

      And he'd been working on it for five years, and it showed, man. It was, it was really refreshing. And w- the timing couldn't have been better. I mean, l- Kanye basically was his PR.

   6. JRJoe Rogan25:03

      It's amazing.

   7. YPYannis Pappas25:04

      (laughs)

   8. JRJoe Rogan25:04

      The timing's amazing.

   9. YPYannis Pappas25:05

      It was so perfect.

   10. JRJoe Rogan25:06

       The timing. It's like the universe threw him a bone.

   11. YPYannis Pappas25:09

       (laughs)

   12. JRJoe Rogan25:09

       That's really what it was. Like, "Ari, you've been a good guy-"

   13. YPYannis Pappas25:11

       Yeah.

   14. JRJoe Rogan25:11

       ... the universe is throwing, throwing you a bone now."

   15. YPYannis Pappas25:13

       Yeah.

   16. JRJoe Rogan25:13

       And he did the work. He did it the right way. He worked on it for a long time. I got a chance to see it here at the Creek in the Cave in Austin. And I'd seen it before, like a couple y- couple years back, and it was way better now. It was just really tight, and he seemed playful with it. And he's had such an amazing life. I mean, that guy was basically a super religious... Was... I guess he's Orthodox.

   17. YPYannis Pappas25:33

       Yeah.

   18. JRJoe Rogan25:33

       What was he?

   19. YPYannis Pappas25:33

       I think so, yeah.

   20. JRJoe Rogan25:33

       Orthodox Jew?

   21. YPYannis Pappas25:34

       He's Orthodox Jew, yeah.

   22. JRJoe Rogan25:35

       And quit.

   23. YPYannis Pappas25:37

       Yeah.

   24. JRJoe Rogan25:37

       To "Fuck this."

   25. YPYannis Pappas25:38

       Yeah.

   26. JRJoe Rogan25:38

       But he ha- he has this experience to draw upon and convert to comedy that's different than anybody's.

   27. YPYannis Pappas25:45

       Yeah.

   28. JRJoe Rogan25:45

       So when he talks about it, it's not like you or I making a joke about something crazy that's in the Torah. Like, he- he grew up on it.

   29. YPYannis Pappas25:53

       He knows it.

   30. JRJoe Rogan25:54

       Yes.
9. 29:13 – 33:56

   Dating apps, VR sex, and cheating death with the metaverse

   1. JRJoe Rogan29:13

      Like, I have a buddy of mine, he's a good-looking guy, and he's on the dating apps, and he fucking can't get anything done. And he told me he's swearing off the apps now.

   2. YPYannis Pappas29:20

      Yeah.

   3. JRJoe Rogan29:20

      You know? And, but when we were talking about... Will, Will Harris. Sorry, Will.

   4. YPYannis Pappas29:26

      (laughs)

   5. JRJoe Rogan29:26

      He, he talked about it on the podcast, though, right? He did, right?

   6. YPYannis Pappas29:28

      Yeah.

   7. JRJoe Rogan29:30

      Will's this big, tall, handsome guy, and yeah, everywhere... And he's successful. And everywhere he goes, that fucking thing's blowing up. Like, if you're on those apps, you're not gonna get anything done.

   8. YPYannis Pappas29:40

      Yeah.

   9. JRJoe Rogan29:40

      You're n- you're not gonna be able to think straight. You're not gonna, you're not gonna be able to get a relationship, like a real relationship. Like, how are you gonna do that?

   10. YPYannis Pappas29:46

       Yeah.

   11. JRJoe Rogan29:47

       Unless you- you're like really playing musical chairs, and when that music stops, you got a chair, and you're gonna stay in that chair.

   12. YPYannis Pappas29:53

       (laughs)

   13. JRJoe Rogan29:53

       And you're not getting back on that app.

   14. YPYannis Pappas29:54

       Yeah.

   15. JRJoe Rogan29:54

       You don't have to get a check.

   16. YPYannis Pappas29:55

       Yeah.

   17. JRJoe Rogan29:56

       You know? Like, someone will say something sarcastic in a text. Like, "What the fuck does that mean? Fuck her. I'm gonna check the app."

   18. YPYannis Pappas30:01

       Yeah.

   19. JRJoe Rogan30:01

       And then y- and then you're swiping right, or what is it? Left? Right?

   20. YPYannis Pappas30:04

       It's, uh... Yeah.

   21. JRJoe Rogan30:05

       Whatever it is.

   22. YPYannis Pappas30:05

       I'm all for...

   23. JRJoe Rogan30:06

       You're give, you're giving them a star, a thumbs up, whatever the fuck you have to do.

   24. YPYannis Pappas30:08

       Yeah, swipe right or swipe left.

   25. JRJoe Rogan30:10

       Yeah.

   26. YPYannis Pappas30:10

       On Tinder, yeah.

   27. JRJoe Rogan30:11

       What they're doing is it's like-... you have too much access.

   28. YPYannis Pappas30:16

       It's, they've taken away the challenge or the hunt of anything.

   29. JRJoe Rogan30:20

       It's a fuck-fest.

   30. YPYannis Pappas30:21

       Yeah.
10. 33:56 – 53:14

    From ancient catastrophes to ‘hobbit humans’: Hancock, moon impacts, and multiple hominids

    1. YPYannis Pappas33:56

       Yeah. Th- maybe that's the... If, if there's simulators or a god or whatever, maybe that's the whole point of this, was for humanity to r- evolve all the way up to get to that point where we can achieve perfection, and then they just pull the plug. And that's, that's how they... 'Cause they always, they always win. I mean, nature always wins one way or the other.

    2. JRJoe Rogan34:13

       (smacks lips) Nature wins, right? But universes also exist, right? So, uh, like, black holes exist. Quasars exist. Comets exist. All this stuff exists. So how does it, how did it get to the point where things evolved to the point where human beings have cellphones, human beings have electric cars, h- human beings have... Like, we, we were animals in the forest, and now we have nuclear bombs. Like, we're that far along. The idea that it stops right there is crazy. I think we just keep integrating with technology, and eventually be, we become like a god. I think whether it's a thousand years from now or 100,000 years from now, I think if the human being stays ali- the species stays alive and nothing happens, it resets us back into the fucking Dark Ages again. We get to a technological point we control everything in the universe. I think that's what a god is. I think that's what happens to intelligent life when it gets to this ultimate state of technological achievement and control over its environment.

    3. YPYannis Pappas35:12

       Do we-

    4. JRJoe Rogan35:12

       That's probably what the universe made us for.

    5. YPYannis Pappas35:14

       A- y- so-

    6. JRJoe Rogan35:16

       We're like little, little fucking salmon spry. What are they called? Fry.

    7. YPYannis Pappas35:20

       Yeah.

    8. JRJoe Rogan35:20

       Little, little fuckers going up the river, not even exactly sure what they're doing. But the universe has a plan for us to feed a bear.

    9. YPYannis Pappas35:27

       (laughs) To feed a bear?

    10. JRJoe Rogan35:31

        (laughs)

    11. YPYannis Pappas35:31

        (laughs) W- d- uh, yeah, that-

    12. JRJoe Rogan35:34

        I mean, the universe has a plan for everything. I think there's, there's like a legitimate pathway. I mean, obviously that plan can get fucked up, but then it restarts. The, the universe doesn't give a fuck about time. If the whole Earth im- explodes, like if the Earth gets hit with another planet like it did in the past... Like, there used to be Earth One, and then Earth One was hit by another planet which created the moon. That's a leading theory, right? Isn't that the, just a the- is that a theory, or do they know that that's real?

    13. GUGuest36:02

        I think it has to be a theory. I don't know.

    14. YPYannis Pappas36:03

        Just roll with it.

    15. JRJoe Rogan36:05

        I think-

    16. YPYannis Pappas36:05

        Yeah.

    17. JRJoe Rogan36:05

        But I think that's definitely a theory. But the, the point is that we got hit by a fucking planet.

    18. YPYannis Pappas36:09

        Right.

    19. JRJoe Rogan36:10

        A planet hit us, and then everything sort of just got obliterated.... life slowly evolved and came out of that and became what we are now. It's, we, this, what we are survived getting hit by a planet. It just wouldn't do it in 100 years. Our problem is we're fucked because our timeline's so little. This little baby timeline, little blinky blinky 100 years. In terms of the universe, that's a nothing.

    20. YPYannis Pappas36:35

        It is.

    21. JRJoe Rogan36:35

        The universe is fine with restarting civilization back to cave people and then having them figuring it out again. They don't, doesn't give a shit.

    22. YPYannis Pappas36:42

        But maybe it's just part of the plan that we end and then, and then, like, rats and roaches get to evolve.

    23. JRJoe Rogan36:48

        That could happen too.

    24. YPYannis Pappas36:49

        And go to, like, rat and roaches cafes and...

    25. JRJoe Rogan36:51

        Well, that's a good question. Like, why didn't the fucking... Go, put that back up again. Why didn't dinosaurs evolve? Collision with lost second satellite would explain moon's asymmetry. Oh, wow. So Earth may have had two moons. Earth once had two moons which merged into a slow motion collision that took several hours to complete. Whoa. Imagine seeing that. Imagine looking up in the sky and two moons collided with each other and are merging. Holy fuck. Both satellites would have formed from debris that was ejected when a Mars-sized proto-planet smacked into Earth late in its formation period. Yeah, so that's what I was talking about. Whereas traditional theory states that the infant moon rapidly swept up any rivals or gravitationally ejected them into the, into interstellar space, the new theory suggests that one body survived, parked in a gravitationally stable point in the Earth-moon system. Wow.

    26. YPYannis Pappas37:46

        So, we got the, Earth got a stocked-in smack to, to make it-

    27. JRJoe Rogan37:49

        Boom. That smelled like a Francis Ngannou left hook.

    28. YPYannis Pappas37:53

        (laughs)

    29. JRJoe Rogan37:53

        It's a... (laughs) We, we getting hit by a planet, son.

    30. YPYannis Pappas37:56

        Yeah. (laughs)
11. 53:14 – 55:13

    Human adaptation and geography: Vikings, Ethiopians, sun deprivation, and why LA ‘shouldn’t exist’

    1. YPYannis Pappas53:14

       And Samoans live on an island. They get big as fuck.

    2. JRJoe Rogan53:16

       Big as fuck.

    3. YPYannis Pappas53:17

       They get big as fuck.

    4. JRJoe Rogan53:18

       Well, I bet that they... Like, you had to be hardy to survive, you know? Like, back then, like, probably the only really strong people survived.

    5. YPYannis Pappas53:26

       On, on Samoa?

    6. JRJoe Rogan53:27

       Look at, like... Look at the Vikings.

    7. YPYannis Pappas53:28

       Mm-hmm.

    8. JRJoe Rogan53:29

       Right? Look at the people that live in Iceland now.

    9. YPYannis Pappas53:30

       Yeah.

    10. JRJoe Rogan53:30

        Those are all the descendants of the Vikings. It's not a fucking coincidence why the strongest men in the world, all those strongman competitions, motherfuckers are all, uh, Vikings.

    11. YPYannis Pappas53:38

        They're all Scandinavian, yeah.

    12. JRJoe Rogan53:39

        They're all these giant people, like the mountain, like that dude.

    13. YPYannis Pappas53:41

        Yeah.

    14. JRJoe Rogan53:42

        These... What the, what the fuck is that?

    15. YPYannis Pappas53:43

        That is interesting.

    16. JRJoe Rogan53:44

        What is that?

    17. YPYannis Pappas53:45

        And then you have all the long distance runners are always Ethiopian.

    18. JRJoe Rogan53:48

        Yes.

    19. YPYannis Pappas53:49

        Yeah.

    20. JRJoe Rogan53:49

        Yeah.

    21. YPYannis Pappas53:49

        Some- something about the environment, something about, yeah, the way they interact with the environment. We are animals, right? Like-

    22. JRJoe Rogan53:55

        Oh, 100%.

    23. YPYannis Pappas53:56

        You know?

    24. JRJoe Rogan53:56

        It just takes time for us to adapt.

    25. YPYannis Pappas53:58

        Yeah.

    26. JRJoe Rogan53:58

        But over many, many generations, we thoroughly adapt. That's where white people come from.

    27. YPYannis Pappas54:03

        Yeah.

    28. JRJoe Rogan54:04

        We're a big solar panel for vitamin D.

    29. YPYannis Pappas54:06

        Yeah, yeah. You, it's, it's all how much you interact with the sun-

    30. JRJoe Rogan54:11

        Yeah.
12. 55:13 – 1:00:25

    ‘Just desalinate the ocean’: California water fixes, wildfires, and virtue-signaling side quests

    1. JRJoe Rogan55:13

       How come they haven't figured out that je- they just need to, like, full-scale suck all the salt out of the ocean? You fucking dummies.

    2. YPYannis Pappas55:19

       I don't know why.

    3. JRJoe Rogan55:20

       It's, we should stop spending all this money on other shit. You've got a water problem.

    4. YPYannis Pappas55:24

       Yeah.

    5. JRJoe Rogan55:24

       You got all the water in the world right next door. Figure it out.

    6. YPYannis Pappas55:28

       (laughs) Yeah, yeah.

    7. JRJoe Rogan55:29

       Figure it out.

    8. YPYannis Pappas55:29

       Yeah.

    9. JRJoe Rogan55:30

       Why do you have all these wildfires? You should have giant fucking hoses that are connected to the ocean that spray water all over the plants and trees.

    10. YPYannis Pappas55:38

        (laughs)

    11. JRJoe Rogan55:38

        Spray it everywhere.

    12. YPYannis Pappas55:39

        Yeah.

    13. JRJoe Rogan55:39

        What the fuck are you doing? That's what you should ... We could be living in a lush jungle.

    14. YPYannis Pappas55:43

        Yeah.

    15. JRJoe Rogan55:43

        Could be amazing here.

    16. YPYannis Pappas55:44

        Yeah.

    17. JRJoe Rogan55:45

        Or, in California at least.

    18. YPYannis Pappas55:46

        I wonder why. I wonder why they haven't figured it out yet.

    19. JRJoe Rogan55:48

        They're dumb.

    20. YPYannis Pappas55:48

        Yeah.

    21. JRJoe Rogan55:49

        They're not as smart as us, Yiannis Pappas.

    22. YPYannis Pappas55:50

        Yeah.

    23. JRJoe Rogan55:51

        We gotta figure it out, bro. (laughs)

    24. YPYannis Pappas55:52

        We're right here figuring every single thing out. (laughs)

    25. JRJoe Rogan55:56

        Figuring it all out.

    26. YPYannis Pappas55:57

        We figured out about these, uh, hominids. We got it all figured out.

    27. JRJoe Rogan56:00

        They've done a little bit of that, desalination, but never like large scale where they could turn all the brown spots into green. But they should.

    28. YPYannis Pappas56:08

        When they do that, probably then, like, all those places that are threatened by rising sea level will be able ... Like, your real estate investment will be secure, like in Miami-

    29. JRJoe Rogan56:17

        Suck that water outta there.

    30. YPYannis Pappas56:18

        Yes, suck that water.
13. 1:00:25 – 1:24:49

    FTX and the token racket: polycule executives, missing billions, and how a collapse unfolds

    1. JRJoe Rogan1:00:25

       Speaking of shame, this, uh ... Now, I'm just getting ... This is a per- ... You and I are the perfect people to talk about this crypto collapse.

    2. YPYannis Pappas1:00:32

       'Cause we're scientists. Oh, okay.

    3. JRJoe Rogan1:00:33

       'Cause we-

    4. YPYannis Pappas1:00:33

       Economists.

    5. JRJoe Rogan1:00:34

       Yes.

    6. YPYannis Pappas1:00:35

       (laughs)

    7. JRJoe Rogan1:00:35

       We have strong opinions and no information.

    8. YPYannis Pappas1:00:37

       (laughs)

    9. JRJoe Rogan1:00:38

       Which is a great combination when you're dealing with the fact that people have lost billions and billions of dollars.

    10. YPYannis Pappas1:00:44

        (laughs)

    11. JRJoe Rogan1:00:44

        But what ... So, Jamie's been filling me in on this over the weekend.

    12. YPYannis Pappas1:00:47

        And he also is an economist.

    13. NANarrator1:00:48

        I am, yeah. I don't ... Not the ... (laughs)

    14. YPYannis Pappas1:00:50

        Jamie-

    15. JRJoe Rogan1:00:50

        Our source is our go-to expert on this-

    16. NANarrator1:00:52

        I just find interesting links and say, "Hey, check this out." (laughs)

    17. JRJoe Rogan1:00:56

        ... which is fine.

    18. GUGuest1:00:57

        Yeah.

    19. JRJoe Rogan1:00:57

        That's journalism.

    20. GUGuest1:00:58

        Yeah.

    21. JRJoe Rogan1:00:58

        And, uh, as a journalist, what's your conclusion? (laughs)

    22. GUGuest1:01:02

        (laughs) (sighs)

    23. JRJoe Rogan1:01:05

        It seems like... Well, here's the thing. If you're running any kind of currency operation and you're involved in a polyamorous relationship with seven other people, I gotta think you're wacky.

    24. GUGuest1:01:18

        No, nine.

    25. JRJoe Rogan1:01:19

        Nine other people?

    26. GUGuest1:01:19

        It's 10.

    27. JRJoe Rogan1:01:20

        10 other people?

    28. GUGuest1:01:20

        10 total.

    29. JRJoe Rogan1:01:21

        What do they do? They just were polyamorous, living in a house together?

    30. GUGuest1:01:24

        They all lived together in the same place, in the Bahamas.

Episode duration: 3:23:15