Joe Rogan Experience #1902 - Danny Brown

1. 0:00 – 15:00

   (drumming music plays) Joe Rogan podcast.…

   1. JRJoe Rogan0:00

      (drumming music plays) Joe Rogan podcast. Check it out.

   2. NANarrator0:04

      The Joe Rogan Experience.

   3. JRJoe Rogan0:06

      Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night. All day. (rock music plays)

   4. DBDanny Brown0:12

      And, but then you thinking like that, that's, like-

   5. JRJoe Rogan0:14

      That's the curse of being successful, though. Right? Like, people lean on you.

   6. DBDanny Brown0:20

      I'm successful, but on my own terms.

   7. JRJoe Rogan0:22

      Yeah. But that's still successful.

   8. DBDanny Brown0:25

      Yeah. But-

   9. JRJoe Rogan0:26

      You're on your own terms is great.

   10. DBDanny Brown0:28

       Because, see, my shit was the music industry and the music industry is one of those type of situations where you can be as creative as you want to be, but does that make you money? You know? So, you have this whole fucking, like, angel and devil on your shoulder, like, "Make a hit song." Or-

   11. JRJoe Rogan0:45

       Hm.

   12. DBDanny Brown0:45

       ... "Be creative as you wanna be."

   13. JRJoe Rogan0:47

       Right.

   14. DBDanny Brown0:47

       You know what I'm saying?

   15. JRJoe Rogan0:48

       Do what you wanna do or do what you think is gonna sell.

   16. DBDanny Brown0:50

       In my whole entire career, I just did what I wanted to do.

   17. JRJoe Rogan0:52

       Yeah.

   18. DBDanny Brown0:53

       And, but at this point, after 10 years, I sit back sometimes and I think about, like, "Damn, did I make a mistake?" Because, you know, it's still a lot of people in my family that struggle. It's like, "Fuck." You know?

   19. JRJoe Rogan1:05

       Well-

   20. DBDanny Brown1:05

       But if I just didn't care about being Danny Brown and being so cool and trying to make the most experimental music I could possibly make, fucking just don't give a fuck. Make that fucking hit song.

   21. JRJoe Rogan1:16

       But isn't that you though?

   22. DBDanny Brown1:17

       But I can do it.

   23. JRJoe Rogan1:18

       You could do both.

   24. DBDanny Brown1:21

       That's the whole thing of what makes you a great artist. See, like a person like Jay-Z. He does both.

   25. JRJoe Rogan1:25

       Yeah. Both. Does both, yeah.

   26. DBDanny Brown1:27

       I don't know if I can do both because it's such a drastic, it's such a drastic change of, from what I love as underground music-

   27. JRJoe Rogan1:33

       Yeah.

   28. DBDanny Brown1:34

       ... and what is commercially considered to be pop music. It's such a drastic, it's such a fucking ... You know what I'm saying? So, I don't know-

   29. JRJoe Rogan1:42

       I do.

   30. DBDanny Brown1:42

       ... if I can ever make ... It's like, would Patrice O'Neal (laughs) would he have ever been a fucking, like ... You get what I'm saying? Commercial, like, stand up com-
2. 15:00 – 30:00

   True. …

   1. DBDanny Brown15:00

      like, "Nigga, I'm fort... If I hit a nigga, I'm gonna get sued."

   2. JRJoe Rogan15:03

      True.

   3. DBDanny Brown15:03

      And part two, "If a nigga hit me, I'm gonna shoot this nigga."

   4. JRJoe Rogan15:06

      (laughs)

   5. DBDanny Brown15:06

      Like guns, y'all forget that guns exist and we live in Texas. I don't give a fuck about how many elbows you throw.

   6. JRJoe Rogan15:15

      Good point.

   7. DBDanny Brown15:16

      There's niggas with big-ass guns.

   8. JRJoe Rogan15:18

      Big-ass guns.

   9. DBDanny Brown15:18

      Especially in the climate, the, the, the situation that I live in, it's not like... You get what I'm saying? Like-

   10. JRJoe Rogan15:25

       Yes.

   11. DBDanny Brown15:25

       Bro, so me doing Muay Thai or having to... That was, that was literally... I'm 40 years old. I'm not about to fucking fight nobody.

   12. JRJoe Rogan15:33

       I would never think that you would, but-

   13. DBDanny Brown15:35

       But I will, listen-

   14. JRJoe Rogan15:36

       ... I think everybody should learn at least some-

   15. DBDanny Brown15:39

       No.

   16. JRJoe Rogan15:40

       ... understanding of martial arts.

   17. DBDanny Brown15:41

       Let me tell you this.

   18. JRJoe Rogan15:42

       Be good for everybody.

   19. DBDanny Brown15:43

       One thing it did for me, I don't wanna talk, I hate this, 'cause I'm

   20. NANarrator15:46

       What are you gonna say?

   21. DBDanny Brown15:46

       But what, I had to say it 'cause I will forget. That's my fucked up brain. I know podcasters be, "Oh, you don't talk about the motherfucking..." You know, but I'm sorry. But if I don't say it, I'll forget it. But, um, it humbled the fuck out of me because I'm the type of motherfucker, I talk shit.

   22. JRJoe Rogan16:01

       (laughs)

   23. DBDanny Brown16:01

       Like, I get drunk, like, "Nigga, nigga, what's up, nigga? What the fuck, nigga?"

   24. JRJoe Rogan16:05

       (laughs)

   25. DBDanny Brown16:05

       You know what I'm saying? "Nigga, what? Nigga." I seen people, nigga, nurses, women five foot three.

   26. JRJoe Rogan16:13

       (laughs)

   27. DBDanny Brown16:13

       140 pounds, kicking a bag. You looking like, "Nigga."

   28. JRJoe Rogan16:17

       (laughs)

   29. DBDanny Brown16:18

       What if this... If she hit me with one of these, it's a wrap. You get what I'm saying?

   30. JRJoe Rogan16:23

       Yeah.
3. 30:00 – 45:00

   No, it... That, that's…

   1. JRJoe Rogan30:00

   2. DBDanny Brown30:00

      No, it... That, that's the whole thing with me. Last time I was in Vegas, I fucking, um... I'm like, "All right. Um, it's time for me to go." So, like, fuck it, let me just throw a little-

   3. JRJoe Rogan30:11

      Yeah.

   4. DBDanny Brown30:12

      ... hundred dollar hand on it. It was time for me to go. Got that motherfucker hit. (laughs)

   5. JRJoe Rogan30:16

      Oh, no. Then you're hooked.

   6. DBDanny Brown30:18

      Yes, it is.

   7. JRJoe Rogan30:20

      You see, you see what Drake's been doing?

   8. DBDanny Brown30:21

      So, now, so, look, so, listen, this the fucked up part with me. I get it all... I run it... I'm on a roulette table. I run it all the way up to, like, 10 racks.I put 10 racks on one number.

   9. JRJoe Rogan30:33

      No. Oh my God.

   10. DBDanny Brown30:35

       'Cause I been... I started with a hundred, so my whole shit was like, you know, whatever. So I put the 10 racks on the whole... Obviously I lose.

   11. JRJoe Rogan30:45

       They count on that. That's the whole game.

   12. DBDanny Brown30:49

       So obviously I lose. I lose the 10 racks.

   13. JRJoe Rogan30:51

       Yeah.

   14. DBDanny Brown30:51

       I'm so pissed, so I just leave. I was just so pissed, just leave out, but I left my wallet, my phone. I'm over here at the airport now, time to board my flight.

   15. JRJoe Rogan31:04

       Oh no.

   16. DBDanny Brown31:05

       I don't got shit. Now I gotta go all the way back to the casino. I get back, and guess what? My shit's sittin' on the table.

   17. JRJoe Rogan31:13

       Right there.

   18. DBDanny Brown31:13

       Nowhere... I didn't even touch it. No one ever even came to this fucking table. So I get that.

   19. JRJoe Rogan31:20

       That's lucky.

   20. DBDanny Brown31:21

       What you think I do?

   21. JRJoe Rogan31:24

       What did God do?

   22. DBDanny Brown31:25

       What did I do?

   23. JRJoe Rogan31:26

       What did you do?

   24. DBDanny Brown31:27

       I was looking for revenge. I had to go get back.

   25. JRJoe Rogan31:29

       You went back in.

   26. DBDanny Brown31:30

       I said, "Fuck the flight."

   27. JRJoe Rogan31:31

       Fuck the flight.

   28. DBDanny Brown31:32

       And went into the ATM, grabbed some cash out.

   29. JRJoe Rogan31:36

       How much did you wind up down?

   30. DBDanny Brown31:37

       Oh, 5,000.
4. 45:00 – 1:00:00

   But that's the way…

   1. JRJoe Rogan45:00

      beefs is gonna be like rap songs and shit. We one step away from that. Yeah, well, that's always gonna happen with some people. Some people just love to get mad and talk shit about people, it's like their favorite recreation or something.

   2. DBDanny Brown45:10

      But that's the way they get the views and that's the way it drops you.

   3. JRJoe Rogan45:13

      (sighs) But you don't have to participate in that.

   4. DBDanny Brown45:14

      No, no, no.

   5. JRJoe Rogan45:15

      But d- but what I'm saying about you-

   6. DBDanny Brown45:17

      Oh, I'm not gonna participate in that-

   7. JRJoe Rogan45:18

      I know you're not.

   8. DBDanny Brown45:18

      ... 'cause you gonna figure out if this Muay Thai work.

   9. JRJoe Rogan45:21

      (laughs)

   10. DBDanny Brown45:21

       (laughs) Nigga come on some podcasts talking shit about Danny Brown. Nigga, I ain't coming back on no podcast talking about you.

   11. JRJoe Rogan45:28

       But Danny, what I'm trying to say is, uh, there's, you have zero fears about being gatekeeped. People are just gonna wanna see if you can do it.

   12. DBDanny Brown45:34

       I been there.

   13. JRJoe Rogan45:35

       Go have fun. People already love you from your show. They love you from Your Mom's House. They love you when you guest on Kill Tony. You, you, you can just do it.

   14. DBDanny Brown45:44

       Yeah. No. No, that's where I'm at now because you gotta think, that's a total 360 from my rap career.

   15. JRJoe Rogan45:51

       It isn't. It isn't, man. You, you know-

   16. DBDanny Brown45:53

       I don't even, Joe Rogan, I don't think you know.

   17. JRJoe Rogan45:54

       It's your creativity. It's your creativity. It's your mind.

   18. DBDanny Brown45:56

       My rap career is a total different world than what this is.

   19. JRJoe Rogan46:00

       Of course.

   20. DBDanny Brown46:00

       My rap career, I would say, what made that bad is that I, I started a little too old. So I didn't really get recognition or, you know, 'til I was 30 years old. And you gotta think, I've been trying to do this my entire 20s, so when I started to be a rapper and get recognition for it and being that, I c- I had a bitter attitude towards it.

   21. JRJoe Rogan46:25

       Hmm.

   22. DBDanny Brown46:26

       You get what I'm saying? 'Cause it took-

   23. JRJoe Rogan46:27

       Yeah.

   24. DBDanny Brown46:27

       ... so long for it to happen. And then-

   25. JRJoe Rogan46:29

       That s- that happens to a lot of people.

   26. DBDanny Brown46:30

       And then now I'm, I'm 30 years old, as a 30-year-old rapper, it's like how, the, the, it's like a ticking time bomb at that point, like, how much time you got.

   27. JRJoe Rogan46:39

       Really?

   28. DBDanny Brown46:40

       So I'm already in my head. Like, I will say, uh, a lot of people say, like, being a rapper is dangerous, like, you know, 'cause all the killings and shit like, but I would say being a rapper is dangerous in a sense because once you do it, you can't do nothing else. It ruins you.

   29. JRJoe Rogan46:59

       How so?

   30. DBDanny Brown46:59

       So let's just say, okay, let's just say I, I was a rapper and then it failed, and then I gotta go get a normal job.
5. 1:00:00 – 1:07:53

   Yeah. …

   1. DBDanny Brown1:00:00

      what I would do, I would just sit around and write punchlines all the time. So, I write punchlines. So, think about this. Look, I'm about to give y'all niggas the game. So, it's 16 bars a verse. It's four punch ... It's four lines for a verse. So, let's just say if I sit around and listen to a Joe Rogan episode, someone says a ill punchline on air, Uncle Joey, he might say some crazy shit, like, "Ugh." You get what I'm saying? Just some-

   2. JRJoe Rogan1:00:26

      Yeah.

   3. DBDanny Brown1:00:26

      ... crazy shit. A line, just one line. I can take that one line. It's four, it's 16 bars. So, one line could create four bars. So, every line I get four bars. So, I need four lines to give me a 16.

   4. JRJoe Rogan1:00:42

      Hm.

   5. DBDanny Brown1:00:43

      Yeah. (laughs)

   6. JRJoe Rogan1:00:44

      Oh, no.

   7. DBDanny Brown1:00:44

      No, the first time I ever did coke was Coachella. (laughs)

   8. JRJoe Rogan1:00:48

      How long ago?

   9. DBDanny Brown1:00:49

      Uh, boy, Coachella was just ... I mean, it had to be a long ass Coachella ago. What was ...

   10. JRJoe Rogan1:00:53

       (laughs)

   11. DBDanny Brown1:00:53

       And guess what? It wasn't by ... I didn't ask for it. It was, what happened was, okay-

   12. JRJoe Rogan1:00:58

       What happened? (laughs)

   13. DBDanny Brown1:00:58

       At this time, listen, at this time I was dating a girl and she was bi, so she wanted to have a girlfriend.She's like, "Pick my girlfriend," type shit. So I found her girlfriend, and I found her and, and it was the type of bitch, they loved each other. They kicked it with each other, they did... They went on fucking vacations and all type of shit. They did all type of shit together. And then I'm playing Coachella, and it's a good time and no bitch, but the bitch that's my girl partner is at Coachella.

   14. JRJoe Rogan1:01:34

       Oh, no.

   15. DBDanny Brown1:01:35

       I didn't know that. My girl hit me up like, "Oh, she in the crowd," boom, boom. Me being a real nigga, after I do my set, I was like, "Fuck it," I just bust out, I just bust into the crowd trying to look for her, find her, give me her number. But I'm walking through the crowd like a normal person, I'm like trying to find her. Find her and we kicking it. We went to watch Sufjan Stevens. You know who Sufjan Stevens? Oh, man, so good. Carolyn Loyal. Oh, man, whatever. Uh, whatever. Went to go watch Sufjan Stevens, and I guess because of who I am or what, she just thought I did coke before, but I never did coke. And she just was like, uh. She already had it and just hit me.

   16. JRJoe Rogan1:02:20

       Wow.

   17. DBDanny Brown1:02:21

       So just in my nose already like... And she like, "Oh, yeah, bro." I was just like, "Uh?" (laughs)

   18. JRJoe Rogan1:02:28

       How was it?

   19. DBDanny Brown1:02:30

       It's the best time I ever had in my life. What are you talking about?

   20. JRJoe Rogan1:02:33

       (laughs) I've never done it. Dude, I avoid coke.

   21. DBDanny Brown1:02:38

       That's sad.

   22. JRJoe Rogan1:02:39

       It's not sad.

   23. DBDanny Brown1:02:40

       It is.

   24. JRJoe Rogan1:02:41

       Maybe it is sad.

   25. DBDanny Brown1:02:41

       It is.

   26. JRJoe Rogan1:02:42

       But it's not sad to me 'cause I've avoided it successfully.

   27. DBDanny Brown1:02:45

       I mean, you could've done everything you've done already and still experienced that.

   28. JRJoe Rogan1:02:50

       When I was in high school, uh, I had a very good friend and his cousin sold coke.

   29. DBDanny Brown1:02:52

       I get it. I get it.

   30. JRJoe Rogan1:02:53

       His cousin sold coke, and his cousin, like, wrecked his life with coke. I, I watched this dude become a vampire.

Episode duration: 2:10:20