Joe Rogan Experience #1902 - Danny Brown

Joe Rogan 0:00 (drumming music plays) Joe Rogan podcast. Check it out.

Narrator 0:04 The Joe Rogan Experience.

Joe Rogan 0:06 Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night. All day. (rock music plays)

Danny Brown 0:12 And, but then you thinking like that, that's, like-

Joe Rogan 0:14 That's the curse of being successful, though. Right? Like, people lean on you.

Danny Brown 0:20 I'm successful, but on my own terms.

Joe Rogan 0:22 Yeah. But that's still successful.

Danny Brown 0:25 Yeah. But-

Joe Rogan 0:26 You're on your own terms is great.

Danny Brown 0:28 Because, see, my shit was the music industry and the music industry is one of those type of situations where you can be as creative as you want to be, but does that make you money? You know? So, you have this whole fucking, like, angel and devil on your shoulder, like, "Make a hit song." Or-

Joe Rogan 0:45 Hm.

Danny Brown 0:45 ... "Be creative as you wanna be."

Joe Rogan 0:47 Right.

Danny Brown 0:47 You know what I'm saying?

Joe Rogan 0:48 Do what you wanna do or do what you think is gonna sell.

Danny Brown 0:50 In my whole entire career, I just did what I wanted to do.

Joe Rogan 0:52 Yeah.

Danny Brown 0:53 And, but at this point, after 10 years, I sit back sometimes and I think about, like, "Damn, did I make a mistake?" Because, you know, it's still a lot of people in my family that struggle. It's like, "Fuck." You know?

Joe Rogan 1:05 Well-

Danny Brown 1:05 But if I just didn't care about being Danny Brown and being so cool and trying to make the most experimental music I could possibly make, fucking just don't give a fuck. Make that fucking hit song.

Joe Rogan 1:16 But isn't that you though?

Danny Brown 1:17 But I can do it.

Joe Rogan 1:18 You could do both.

Danny Brown 1:21 That's the whole thing of what makes you a great artist. See, like a person like Jay-Z. He does both.

Joe Rogan 1:25 Yeah. Both. Does both, yeah.

Danny Brown 1:27 I don't know if I can do both because it's such a drastic, it's such a drastic change of, from what I love as underground music-

Joe Rogan 1:33 Yeah.

Danny Brown 1:34 ... and what is commercially considered to be pop music. It's such a drastic, it's such a fucking ... You know what I'm saying? So, I don't know-

Joe Rogan 1:42 I do.

Danny Brown 1:42 ... if I can ever make ... It's like, would Patrice O'Neal (laughs) would he have ever been a fucking, like ... You get what I'm saying? Commercial, like, stand up com-

Joe Rogan 1:51 He would have been.

Danny Brown 1:51 You get what I'm saying?

Joe Rogan 1:52 Yeah. No. I think he would have been.

Danny Brown 1:53 At this point and age?

Joe Rogan 1:54 I think we... Yeah. Yeah. We would have forced it through. Yeah.

Danny Brown 1:57 And that's-

Joe Rogan 1:57 He, he would have made it.

Danny Brown 1:58 That's the one person that I look up to.

Joe Rogan 2:00 He was amazing.

Danny Brown 2:01 So, I look up to him so much and-

Joe Rogan 2:02 I mean, it would, it would... He had... Everybody would have forced it through. Like, even if he couldn't get on the television show, even if nothing ever happened for him like that, we would've all had him on podcasts.

Danny Brown 2:12 'Cause even with my rap career and just how I look at, like, making music, I look at him as like a super inspiration. Like, it was, um, my last album, um, which was called You Know What I'm Sayin'? Which was actually, um, from Tom and Christina 'cause they had this bit.

Joe Rogan 2:26 (laughs)

Danny Brown 2:26 But they would have this bit where they had niggas, and you know niggas be, "You know what I'm saying?" You know.

Joe Rogan 2:29 (laughs)

Danny Brown 2:29 Even me, I say, "You know what I'm saying?" like, a lot. Like a... But before that, the name of the album was The Patrice O'Neal Theory.

Joe Rogan 2:36 Oh.

Danny Brown 2:37 Because Patrice O'Neal, he had this theory where he'd talk about, like, men has periods.

Joe Rogan 2:41 (laughs)

Danny Brown 2:42 But we don't necessarily have periods. We just wanna fuck another bitch.

Joe Rogan 2:47 Oh.

Danny Brown 2:48 So, every time you mad at your girl, like, "Uh." And she's like all on you and she's like, "Uh." You're like, "Uh." You're like, "Uh." My, my woman is beautiful. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, being... But you're like, "Bitch." You still gotta... 'Cause you just want another taste of something.

Joe Rogan 3:03 (laughs)

Danny Brown 3:03 You get what I'm saying? (laughs) And when you get that, like, like it's to the point where you, if you've been so, faithful for so long, you're like, "I'll fuck a homeless bitch on the corner."

Joe Rogan 3:10 (laughs)

Danny Brown 3:11 You get what I'm saying? But if I did that, it's gonna make me love you so much more. Like, I won't have this attitude with you, this whole attitude I got with you. You think, "Why you like, why you so mad? Why you acting like this?" Uh. 'Cause I need some new pussy. And that's all that is. But I do-

Joe Rogan 3:27 The Patrice O'Neal Theory.

Danny Brown 3:28 That's the Patrice O'Neal theory.

Joe Rogan 3:29 (laughs) He had a lot of great theories.

Danny Brown 3:31 But I would say, listen. I'm gonna say this 'cause I love my girl at home. I know she probably listening to this. I love you, baby. (blows kiss) (laughs)

Joe Rogan 3:38 (laughs)

Danny Brown 3:39 But no. I'm out of that. I don't, I don't have that. Uh, my dick don't get hard at, at, like that no more. I'm 40 years old.

Joe Rogan 3:45 (laughs)

Danny Brown 3:45 It's like, come on. This motherfucker has been burnt out. They've been hitting this motherfucker. Bitch been speed bagging this dick. I've been getting-

Joe Rogan 3:51 Ah.

Danny Brown 3:51 This dick been getting speed bagged for the last 10 years. So, yeah.

Joe Rogan 3:55 When, when did you decide to do this podcast at your doing with Your Moms House 'cause it's hilarious?

Danny Brown 4:00 Uh, no. The, the thing was is that, um... Oh, you know Uncle Joey. Like, it started with, um, I will-

Joe Rogan 4:06 He started like you on him doing a podcast stuff?

Danny Brown 4:07 No. You want me to bring it? 'Cause it, 'cause, 'cause it, it goes back into me just being a rapper and just me being on some rap shit and I was on tour. I was on tour for a long part of time and being on tour, you get bored. And I'm a gamer, so I buy a lot of video games. And guess what? I bought UFC. Before the good UFCs. This is a-

Joe Rogan 4:27 (laughs)

Danny Brown 4:28 ... a whatever UFC video game. So, I'm playing that and you were the fucking, um, announcer on it.

Joe Rogan 4:34 Oh.

Danny Brown 4:35 So, I'm playing that and, you know, and you're an announcer now. I'm on tour. And then I guess, I don't know, some type of way I was watching UFC or some shit, and then I seen you on there. And it was like, "Oh. This the nigga from the video game."

Joe Rogan 4:47 (laughs)

Danny Brown 4:48 Is this not hilarious to you? Like, this is how I got up on this whole shit. So, I'm like, "This the nigga from the video game! Joe Rogan!" So, then I started listening to Joe Rogan shit and then from seeing Joe Rogan shit, I seen Uncle Joey on there. Then I see Uncle Ro- Uncle Joey on there, and I seen that, and then just started going through the fucking, um, the rabbit hole of y'all shit. Like, even the shit of fucking, uh, fucking Red Band dumbass always talking about fucking Olive Garden and shit like that.

Joe Rogan 5:13 (laughs)

Danny Brown 5:14 Like, like, the fucking, like-

Joe Rogan 5:15 Olive Garden of buttholes.

Danny Brown 5:16 Yeah. Like the Justin TV day. Like, I, I, I've ... So, so, I've been, like, I w- I will credit you to fucking up my fucking music career in some sense.

Joe Rogan 5:26 No.

Danny Brown 5:26 I will say that because it got to the point where all I did was, all I ever did in my life was listen to music. Like, it did... I was one of those people where I would like, um, be like, "Man, people don't really listen to music. They just listen to music in their cars or when they got,"

Joe Rogan 5:39 Yeah.

Danny Brown 5:39 "function." Let's say, like, I'm the type of person-

Joe Rogan 5:41 Not just sit down listening.

Danny Brown 5:41 ... that listen to music 24/7s a day. Whatever new, uh.

Joe Rogan 5:45 Mm-hmm.

Danny Brown 5:45 But then I started getting into podcasts and, and listening to your shit and doing that and all that, and all that. So, um, just being into podcasts and then listening to y'all shit. You know, fucking with Uncle Joey and all that shit. And then I got into, um, Why I Made Shit, listening to they shit. And then, uh-You know, just, Tom hit me up, like, "Come through." But when Tom hit me up, he didn't know how much of a fan boy I was of this shit.

Joe Rogan 6:08 (laughs)

Danny Brown 6:09 So when I came through, I was hitting him with all this shit, you know, all the fucking why me shit, like, you know, straight real mommy shit. You get what I'm saying? Like-

Joe Rogan 6:16 (laughs) Genes.

Danny Brown 6:17 Yeah. So the genes ...

Joe Rogan 6:18 (laughs)

Danny Brown 6:18 So that's what happened. The genes, the whole ... The fan base of the whole shit fucked with me. They knew I was, like, real in this shit. So they embraced me with that shit. So Tom will always hit me up and talk about it. He be like, "Man ..." Because me and Tom would, like, FaceTime and, like, talk to each other and go through some real friend shit. It ain't had nothing to do with no business or nothing else. And Tom always be like, "Man, you should do a podcast. I'm telling you, you would be good at doing podcasts."

Joe Rogan 6:39 I'm glad he told you that.

Danny Brown 6:40 And this and that. And ... But my whole shit with, with him, and I was like, "Man, no." Being good at podcasts is good, but the actual production of it what makes podcasts good. Because I can set up a fucking camera and a fucking microphone in my bedroom and start talking shit in front of the camera. But is that going to be good?

Joe Rogan 6:58 Yeah. Danny, it would be good.

Danny Brown 7:01 But I was like, "No-"

Joe Rogan 7:01 It's ... Listen. It's ... All of it's good.

Danny Brown 7:03 I get that-

Joe Rogan 7:03 It just captures you. It's nice to have great production, and the way they do it at your mom's house is awesome. You have, like, a real professional studio. I went over there and visited.

Danny Brown 7:11 Yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 7:11 It's beautiful. The whole setup is beautiful.

Danny Brown 7:13 But that's my whole shit. I was like, "I'm not going to do it unless it's like that."

Joe Rogan 7:15 But you can do it on FaceTime. It doesn't matter.

Danny Brown 7:18 I know, but I was like-

Joe Rogan 7:19 It doesn't ma- You're j- You're just good at it. You, you, you... Because you were a fan of podcasts for so long, I think you were probably talking back in your head.

Danny Brown 7:26 Yeah, like, it gotta be big.

Joe Rogan 7:28 (laughs)

Danny Brown 7:28 It gotta be, like ... It gotta look ... It gotta look professional. It can't be-

Joe Rogan 7:31 Yeah.

Danny Brown 7:31 It can't be fucking ... But see, this is the, the double-edged sword with that with me, because what I loved about podcasting was, like, I was almost like a fly on the wall, like, in seeing, like, friends just hanging out, drinking, and talking shit.

Joe Rogan 7:44 Right.

Danny Brown 7:44 And now when you watch podcasts, and it's so fucking over-produced. I heard that these niggas is writing scripts now.

Joe Rogan 7:51 No.

Danny Brown 7:51 I swear I heard some shit like that-

Joe Rogan 7:53 (laughs)

Danny Brown 7:54 ... where they said these niggas got scripts and they looking at them on a teleprompter.

Joe Rogan 7:58 You know what I-

Danny Brown 7:58 And they sitting there doing podcasts. They doing scripted podcasts. Podcasts are supposed to be like you just a fly on the wall sitting there in the room with a couple friends, and you hearing them talking shit, and you like, "That's why we love fucking Rogan so much." You get what I'm saying? Like-

Joe Rogan 8:12 Yeah.

Danny Brown 8:12 In the beginning stages ... Now, this some real shit now. Nah. This is ... You get what I'm saying?

Joe Rogan 8:17 Yeah.

Danny Brown 8:17 But in the beginning stages of shit, like, no, we're a fly on the wall. But the point of that, that has turned to what media is in real life now, is, is it makes so much sense when you got ... Fucking, we went through reality TV-

Joe Rogan 8:31 Mm-hmm.

Danny Brown 8:31 ... so much, and now motherfuckers that play video games watch other motherfuckers that play video games.

Joe Rogan 8:39 (laughs)

Danny Brown 8:39 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 8:39 For fun. You get what I'm saying?

Danny Brown 8:40 Danny, I had a bit a long time ago about a cameraman from a reality TV show getting his own reality TV show. So the, the reality TV show was about a cameraman following around a cameraman-

Joe Rogan 8:54 That's really good.

Danny Brown 8:55 ... on a reality TV show. And then I go, "But then people are going to go, 'Well, what about the cameraman behind the cameraman?'" And then they're going to do a cameraman show on that. I would love to see ... Me, in my fucked up brain, I would love to see that show, but it'd have to be, like, the niggas that shoot porn though.

Joe Rogan 9:09 (laughs)

Danny Brown 9:09 I want to know about the porn, the porn cameramen's life.

Joe Rogan 9:11 Porn cameramen?

Danny Brown 9:12 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 9:13 Yeah. That'd be a good podcast.

Danny Brown 9:13 'Cause he a little creepy too. He a little creepy.

Joe Rogan 9:15 Mm-hmm.

Danny Brown 9:16 How you get that job? You just looking for it? 'Cause I feel like cameraman is such a vast ... You, nigga, you shooting for the NBA or y- uh, or you shooting for the motherfucking anal, um, (laughs) projections?

Joe Rogan 9:27 (laughs) Right.

Danny Brown 9:28 Whatever you doing. You get what I'm saying?

Joe Rogan 9:30 Right.

Danny Brown 9:30 So you gotta ... You picking your poison.

Joe Rogan 9:32 Yeah, you could be a professional and work for both.

Danny Brown 9:35 I mean, no. At the end of the day, um, what I will say that's good about the cameraman shit is that, just like everything else, with DJing, everything with, that comes with internet, everything ... Or even, like, production equipment, all that shit has become so easy to use now.

Joe Rogan 9:52 Right.

Danny Brown 9:52 Where back in the day, it wasn't really like ... I couldn't go on YouTube and s- find an instruction manual to how to use an MPC.

Joe Rogan 9:59 You know, Jamey's a audio engineer, like a real audio engineer, who went to school for it.

Narrator 10:03 Yeah, I had to go to school. There was no YouTube for it. And then, like, the year I graduated, YouTube got invented, and then I had to start all over.

Joe Rogan 10:09 (laughs) So you had to learn all this shit on YouTube at that point.

Danny Brown 10:11 So, so yeah. How, how much of, uh, what you learned in school is still valid?

Narrator 10:15 Uh, it's hard to say, 'cause a lot of ... There's even ... Some of the com- the computer programs, they don't edit for you, but they handle a lot of the shit that's ... that was difficult.

Danny Brown 10:25 Oh, yeah?

Joe Rogan 10:25 Yeah.

Danny Brown 10:25 You wanna hear the fucked-up part that I think about, is that it, it, it's better in a sense, is because you get a lot of different point of views. Like, if-

Joe Rogan 10:33 Yeah.

Danny Brown 10:34 ... if I'm a nigga that, I'm trying to learn some shit on YouTube, it's a l- ... And it's a topic that has, has a lot of different people that's talking about it, I'm taking-

Joe Rogan 10:41 Yeah.

Danny Brown 10:42 ... the best parts of, or whatever identifies with me, I'm like, "Oh, I'm figuring that shit out. Uh. And do it at, like, that," instead of just learning from one person.

Joe Rogan 10:49 Yeah. With everything. Yeah.

Danny Brown 10:50 'Cause even ... Oh, you know, I just started ... I, I, I, I've joined a Muay Thai gym.

Joe Rogan 10:54 Oh, yeah?

Danny Brown 10:54 Yeah, man.

Joe Rogan 10:55 Where at?

Danny Brown 10:55 I suck. Um, shouts out to all my boys at, um, fucking Ogar Muay Thai. Shout out to my boy Spencer, my boy Dave, all them motherfuckers.

Narrator 11:02 Nice.

Danny Brown 11:02 Chantel, Autumn. Yeah, no. I suck. I actually suck though.

Joe Rogan 11:05 That's okay.

Danny Brown 11:05 I'm, I'm not-

Joe Rogan 11:06 Everybody sucks in the beginning.

Danny Brown 11:07 No. Um, I, I'm, I'm chilling out right now. I'm not ... I'll probably go back in a few months.

Joe Rogan 11:13 Yeah?

Danny Brown 11:13 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 11:14 But you were doing it?

Danny Brown 11:15 No, I've, I've, um, I've went, uh, three, three, four months hard.

Joe Rogan 11:18 Yeah?

Danny Brown 11:19 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 11:20 It's good for you, man. It's great to get tension out too.

Danny Brown 11:23 Yeah, but it's one of those things-

Joe Rogan 11:24 Hit those pads. Pow, pow, pow.

Danny Brown 11:24 ... you know ... Yeah. But I didn't know that part though, 'cause I was doing privates.

Joe Rogan 11:29 Yeah.

Danny Brown 11:29 And that was fun, you know, learning shit.

Joe Rogan 11:32 Private's are good. Then you get a coach.

Danny Brown 11:33 Then I was like, "You know what? Let me go to real class," and started going to real class.

Joe Rogan 11:36 Out sparring with people and shit?

Danny Brown 11:38 No. Pad holding.

Joe Rogan 11:39 Oh.

Danny Brown 11:41 My nigga.

Joe Rogan 11:43 (laughs)

Danny Brown 11:44 (laughs) I ain't sign up for that job.

Joe Rogan 11:46 Holding the pads for people is bullshit.

Danny Brown 11:48 Bro, I ain't sign up for that job.

Joe Rogan 11:50 (laughs)

Danny Brown 11:51 So I haven't been back ... I actually haven't been back up. No, I mean, been going through a lot of shit. I didn't ... You know why I haven't been back to Muay Thai? I don't even want to talk about it. But ... Well, I guess I'm talking about it. But no, we was in class one day.

Joe Rogan 12:02 (laughs)

Danny Brown 12:03 Shouts out to my nigga Spencer, man. We was in class one day, and then this nigga was like, um, "Oh, you know what it is?" 'Cause I didn't have no Muay Thai shorts.So I was just like, you know, I was wearing my normal, like-

Joe Rogan 12:14 Regular shorts.

Danny Brown 12:15 ... I'm wearing, like, Gucci shorts and shit. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 12:17 (laughs)

Danny Brown 12:18 The old gym looking at me crazy, but so like, I'm gonna buy some Muay Thai shorts. And you know me, I'm a nigga. I'm gonna buy some fly shit.

Joe Rogan 12:25 (laughs)

Danny Brown 12:26 So I bought the shiniest Muay Thai shorts I could find.

Joe Rogan 12:29 (laughs)

Danny Brown 12:29 Them motherfuckers look like, you know what I'm saying, look like gold.

Joe Rogan 12:32 (laughs)

Danny Brown 12:32 You know what I'm saying? I'm like, "These bitches fire though." You know what I'm saying?

Joe Rogan 12:35 Uh-

Danny Brown 12:35 I got the Muay, I got the fire Muay Thai shorts.

Joe Rogan 12:37 What do they look like? You have a picture of them?

Danny Brown 12:39 I, I, I mean, I could show you, but yeah.

Joe Rogan 12:41 Yeah, show me a picture. (laughs)

Danny Brown 12:42 All right. So the, the, the gold shiny Muay Thai shorts.

Joe Rogan 12:45 Yeah.

Danny Brown 12:45 But I show it to the Muay Thai, but I think they, they, he felt, he was like, "You know what that made me feel like? It was like when a nigga suck at basketball and then he show up with the whole Jordan fit on."

Joe Rogan 12:57 Right.

Danny Brown 12:57 With the Jordans and the Iverson sleeve and all that. So I felt like that's what Muay Thai was looking at me like at that point. But I didn't have no Muay Thai clothes. So this is my first time buying some Muay Thai shit. I'm an ill nigga, I love fashion, so I'm gonna buy some fly shit.

Joe Rogan 13:09 (laughs)

Danny Brown 13:09 What you want me to buy some normal fake-ass shit? So during the class-

Joe Rogan 13:13 Yeah, they gotta let that go.

Danny Brown 13:14 ... they was like, yeah. So one, dude, one of the teachers, she was like, uh, "You know, you got these shiny-ass shorts on. You worried about the wrong shit." And I thought to myself, "Ugh."

Joe Rogan 13:25 (laughs)

Danny Brown 13:25 And I thought to myself-

Joe Rogan 13:25 Why would anybody care? It's fucking shorts.

Danny Brown 13:27 But I thought to myself, and I was like, "You know what? You right. I am worried about the wrong shit. Why am I here playing Bruce Leroy with y'all niggas and I got to put a fucking album out?"

Joe Rogan 13:36 (laughs)

Danny Brown 13:36 So I haven't been to Muay Thai since.

Joe Rogan 13:39 (laughs)

Danny Brown 13:39 I've been at the crib trying to finish my... (laughs) When I get back, and I thought about it too, because the way it started is because I would always talk about on my podcast how I got my ass whooped before, and he hit me up and was like, "Yo, you tired of getting your ass whooped. Come to Muay Thai class." And not necessarily me, I'm just trying to get in shape.

Joe Rogan 13:55 Right.

Danny Brown 13:55 I just don't wanna, you know.

Joe Rogan 13:57 Yeah.

Danny Brown 13:57 I don't wanna be fat, you know? Like-

Joe Rogan 13:59 But that's a good thing for getting in shape. That burns a shit load of calories.

Danny Brown 14:01 It's the funniest thing they getting to say, hitting pads and all that shit. Just getting in shape.

Joe Rogan 14:04 Yeah. You're learning something-

Danny Brown 14:05 It was great.

Joe Rogan 14:06 ... which is fun and it's tiring.

Danny Brown 14:07 No, it was great. It was actually great. It was actually great.

Joe Rogan 14:09 Yeah, it's like the best way to get a cardio in because it's actually fun to do. Whereas, like, a lot of cardio is just suck. It's just getting through the suck, like an assault bike.

Danny Brown 14:18 Yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 14:18 That's just getting through suck.

Danny Brown 14:19 No, no, it's like-

Joe Rogan 14:20 You know?

Danny Brown 14:20 ... I was actually having a great time. I was having fun.

Joe Rogan 14:23 Yeah.

Danny Brown 14:23 So yeah, so I haven't been, I haven't, um, ever since that episode. So I haven't been-

Joe Rogan 14:27 You gotta go back and they gotta let that go.

Danny Brown 14:29 No.

Joe Rogan 14:29 They gotta let that shit go.

Danny Brown 14:30 I was hanging with, um-

Joe Rogan 14:31 You're Danny Brown. You should be allowed to wear whatever fucking shorts you want.

Danny Brown 14:34 That's one thing I thought about too, though. Like I'm about to-

Joe Rogan 14:36 That's what you're supposed to be.

Danny Brown 14:37 But, you know, they sell their own shit too. So maybe it feel like I was bad I didn't buy they shit.

Joe Rogan 14:41 They gotta let that shit go. All that shit they have in their head about what kind of fucking shorts you have. Who gives a shit?

Danny Brown 14:46 But part two, I, I just looked at it as, I never joined the situation as me trying to fight a nigga.

Joe Rogan 14:52 They're shorts.

Danny Brown 14:54 No, I'm saying I get it.

Joe Rogan 14:55 It's just shorts.

Danny Brown 14:55 No, I get it, because even one time we had a conversation, it was like, "Man, you gotta know how to protect yourself." And this, and I'm like, "Nigga, I'm fort... If I hit a nigga, I'm gonna get sued."

Joe Rogan 15:03 True.

Danny Brown 15:03 And part two, "If a nigga hit me, I'm gonna shoot this nigga."

Joe Rogan 15:06 (laughs)

Danny Brown 15:06 Like guns, y'all forget that guns exist and we live in Texas. I don't give a fuck about how many elbows you throw.

Joe Rogan 15:15 Good point.

Danny Brown 15:16 There's niggas with big-ass guns.

Joe Rogan 15:18 Big-ass guns.

Danny Brown 15:18 Especially in the climate, the, the, the situation that I live in, it's not like... You get what I'm saying? Like-

Joe Rogan 15:25 Yes.

Danny Brown 15:25 Bro, so me doing Muay Thai or having to... That was, that was literally... I'm 40 years old. I'm not about to fucking fight nobody.

Joe Rogan 15:33 I would never think that you would, but-

Danny Brown 15:35 But I will, listen-

Joe Rogan 15:36 ... I think everybody should learn at least some-

Danny Brown 15:39 No.

Joe Rogan 15:40 ... understanding of martial arts.

Danny Brown 15:41 Let me tell you this.

Joe Rogan 15:42 Be good for everybody.

Danny Brown 15:43 One thing it did for me, I don't wanna talk, I hate this, 'cause I'm

Narrator 15:46 What are you gonna say?

Danny Brown 15:46 But what, I had to say it 'cause I will forget. That's my fucked up brain. I know podcasters be, "Oh, you don't talk about the motherfucking..." You know, but I'm sorry. But if I don't say it, I'll forget it. But, um, it humbled the fuck out of me because I'm the type of motherfucker, I talk shit.

Joe Rogan 16:01 (laughs)

Danny Brown 16:01 Like, I get drunk, like, "Nigga, nigga, what's up, nigga? What the fuck, nigga?"

Joe Rogan 16:05 (laughs)

Danny Brown 16:05 You know what I'm saying? "Nigga, what? Nigga." I seen people, nigga, nurses, women five foot three.

Joe Rogan 16:13 (laughs)

Danny Brown 16:13 140 pounds, kicking a bag. You looking like, "Nigga."

Joe Rogan 16:17 (laughs)

Danny Brown 16:18 What if this... If she hit me with one of these, it's a wrap. You get what I'm saying?

Joe Rogan 16:23 Yeah.

Danny Brown 16:23 So it humbled the fuck outta me and it made me know that I will never, I never wanna fight anyone in my life. You know what I'm saying?

Joe Rogan 16:30 Yeah. You, it look, it's like everything else, it looks way easier than it is. If you're watching the UFC and you watching, uh, Israel Adesanya versus Alex Pereira and you're watching the best in the world, and you think, "If somebody fucks with me, I'm gonna do something to them." Like you have no idea how far that gap is. It's humbling 'cause a girl's walking around with 140 pounds, right? So that means her muscles in her legs are carrying 140 pounds everywhere she goes. If she kicks you in the head, you're going unconscious.

Danny Brown 17:03 So yeah, that's what's been happening with my Muay Thai gym.

Joe Rogan 17:05 (laughs)

Danny Brown 17:05 That's why I haven't been back to Muay Thai.

Joe Rogan 17:07 It's good though, that whole thing's good.

Danny Brown 17:08 And it's crazy, um, actually, fucking Tony, they had a, um, UFC, they had a party for the, uh, Adesanya, Pereira fight.

Joe Rogan 17:13 Oh, did they?

Danny Brown 17:14 And he hit me up. Tony's like, "Come through. Pull up, pull up."

Joe Rogan 17:17 Nice.

Danny Brown 17:17 But I was sad about the Muay Thai shit.

Joe Rogan 17:20 Still?

Danny Brown 17:20 Yeah, 'cause-

Joe Rogan 17:21 So it turned you off to martial arts?

Danny Brown 17:23 No, no, um, 12th Planet, 10th Planet.

Joe Rogan 17:27 10th Planet.

Danny Brown 17:28 I know 'em.

Joe Rogan 17:28 What, they around the corner, right? Yeah.

Danny Brown 17:31 Yeah, they was just saying, "Just go over there."

Joe Rogan 17:33 Well, that's a good place too. You don't, you don't have to go to the same gym.

Danny Brown 17:37 No, that's what I'm saying, I might-

Joe Rogan 17:37 Go to someone who respects your shorts.

Danny Brown 17:39 I might have to switch gyms. Yeah.

Joe Rogan 17:40 Go to someone who respects your shorts.

Danny Brown 17:41 'Cause I'm Danny Brown. I can't be fucking wearing no bullshit.

Joe Rogan 17:44 That's what I'm saying. Whoever's running that gym, let it go.

Danny Brown 17:47 No, no, it's, part two is not the person that's running the gym at all.

Joe Rogan 17:50 Bro, Dennis Rodman shows up at your gym. You gonna tell him what fucking shorts he can wear?

Danny Brown 17:55 You right.

Joe Rogan 17:56 You can't.

Danny Brown 17:57 And guess what? This is my first time buying, so it made me feel bad. You know how it is when you're trying to be cool? 'Cause I didn't have no Muay Thai clothes. I've been wearing-

Joe Rogan 18:04 Right.

Danny Brown 18:04 ... just regular shorts, pulling up. I never would wear their gym shit. This is the first time I wore the gym T-shirt to the gym.

Joe Rogan 18:10 Yeah.

Danny Brown 18:11 This nigga's like, "You worried about the wrong shit. You trying to look cool to do Muay Thai."

Joe Rogan 18:15 This is bad motherfucker.

Danny Brown 18:16 "And you suck at Muay Thai." And it's like, "Bro-I joined Muay Thai to get in shape. So, like, that's what happened. I, I, like I said, I, I haven't been doing Muay Thai.

Joe Rogan 18:25 They need-

Danny Brown 18:25 I've been going to a normal gym, just doing normal shit, getting in shape, doing that.

Joe Rogan 18:28 Well, that's good too, but they need to respect the shorts. There's this dude named Badr Hari, he's still a, still a active kickboxer. But at one point in time he was, like, one of the best in the world, if not the best, in the heavyweight division. And he would fight, like, golf shorts on.

Danny Brown 18:41 I've been watching a lot of, um, ONE.

Joe Rogan 18:43 Oh, ONE Championship?

Danny Brown 18:44 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 18:44 Yeah.

Danny Brown 18:44 Rod Tang.

Joe Rogan 18:45 Whoo. (laughs) That dude's a beast.

Danny Brown 18:48 (laughs) I like that because they have the-

Joe Rogan 18:49 That dude's a beast.

Danny Brown 18:50 ... just, just straight Muay Thai fights and shit like that.

Joe Rogan 18:52 Mm-hmm.

Danny Brown 18:52 So I like watching their shit.

Joe Rogan 18:53 Did you see when Rod Tang fought Mighty Mouse?

Danny Brown 18:56 Um, yeah. Mighty Mouse whipped his ass.

Joe Rogan 18:57 They had a mixed fight.

Danny Brown 18:58 Yeah, they had, um-

Joe Rogan 18:58 They had a mixed fight.

Danny Brown 18:59 Yeah, it was one round-

Joe Rogan 18:59 Yeah.

Danny Brown 18:59 ... miss one round.

Joe Rogan 19:00 Yeah.

Danny Brown 19:00 That, yeah, Mighty Mouse fucked him up.

Joe Rogan 19:02 Yeah. Well, Mighty Mouse got through the first round and landed some good shots, but-

Danny Brown 19:05 I look up to Mighty Mouse so much, man.

Joe Rogan 19:07 Oh, he's so good. He's so good.

Danny Brown 19:09 Like, bro, like, it's some... Like, I look at, um, I know it's, like, like, weird, like, I mean, like, because I don't like, I mean, a lot of people feel like, shit, like, race baiting and shit like that. But if you got to think, like, martial arts in, like, urban communities are not, like, it's not, like, it's not a fucking Muay Thai gym up the street.

Joe Rogan 19:27 Right.

Danny Brown 19:27 So for a person to be from the hood and be like, "Man, I want to, you know, get into that shit and get to fighting." Because niggas fight every day, niggas do all type of shit. It, it's actually, I guess for the most part it would be boxing. Because I'm, I'm not-

Joe Rogan 19:41 Boxing is easier to get into, but, like, jujitsu is expensive.

Danny Brown 19:43 Because even me, I can't, I can't lie, it was always, like, Kronk. Like, me being from Detroit, it's always was boxing gyms around.

Joe Rogan 19:50 Yeah. Sure.

Danny Brown 19:50 That I could, if I wanted to, I could have gotten in shape.

Joe Rogan 19:52 Did you ever go into Kronk?

Danny Brown 19:53 Fuck no.

Joe Rogan 19:55 No?

Danny Brown 19:55 Fuck no.

Joe Rogan 19:56 (laughs)

Danny Brown 19:57 Yo, look at me, man. I don't-

Joe Rogan 19:59 I know, but just to look around, man, that's, that place is so legendary.

Danny Brown 20:01 Let me break it down to you, man. It's, it's, it's different-

Joe Rogan 20:03 Emanuel Stewart, Tommy Hearns.

Danny Brown 20:05 ... it's different type of people in life, man. You get what I'm saying?

Joe Rogan 20:08 Yeah.

Danny Brown 20:09 You one of them type of niggas, you was always about the muscles and kicking niggas.

Joe Rogan 20:12 (laughs)

Danny Brown 20:12 And some niggas, bro, and some niggas don't care about that shit and all they care about is what? The clothes.

Joe Rogan 20:18 Yeah.

Danny Brown 20:19 So I was always a fashion guy.

Joe Rogan 20:21 Right.

Danny Brown 20:21 Like, think about-

Joe Rogan 20:23 I get it.

Danny Brown 20:23 You never was a fashion guy.

Joe Rogan 20:25 Nope.

Danny Brown 20:25 See?

Joe Rogan 20:26 Look at me now, I wear a fanny pack.

Danny Brown 20:27 Don't that, don't that sound fucked up, though?

Joe Rogan 20:29 No, it doesn't sound fucked up to me at all.

Danny Brown 20:31 No, because, no, I'm saying-

Joe Rogan 20:32 No, because I could get it.

Danny Brown 20:33 No, that's the thing.

Joe Rogan 20:33 I could understand it.

Danny Brown 20:34 But that's the thing about it. It's like people that work out, I got this muscle ass body, I can take my shirt off and show you how I look.

Joe Rogan 20:41 Right.

Danny Brown 20:41 But then it's certain niggas it's like, "No, what's this shirt you took off? That was some bullshit." (laughs)

Joe Rogan 20:48 The shirt I took off?

Danny Brown 20:49 Yeah. That was some bullshit. What kind of... What was that shirt?

Joe Rogan 20:52 It's wet. It's wet.

Danny Brown 20:52 Oh, no, nigga. That ain't no Kiko Kasanov. That ain't no motherfucking-

Joe Rogan 20:57 You didn't like my shirt?

Danny Brown 20:58 No. See, you're not understanding what I'm saying.

Joe Rogan 21:00 My shirt was bullshit?

Danny Brown 21:00 It's just fashion.

Joe Rogan 21:01 (laughs) But this is Roots of Fight.

Danny Brown 21:04 When you got muscles-

Joe Rogan 21:05 This is a, this is an old, uh, Smokin' Joe Frazier-

Danny Brown 21:08 See-

Joe Rogan 21:09 Uh...

Danny Brown 21:10 Joe, you don't need to give him this thing.

Joe Rogan 21:10 This is from, like, one of his fights. It's a replication.

Danny Brown 21:13 When you got muscles, niggas don't care what kind of clothes you wear.

Joe Rogan 21:15 I know, but this, to me, this is like artwork. This is-

Danny Brown 21:19 No, no, actually-

Joe Rogan 21:20 This is the advertisement for Smokin' Joe Frazier's fight from 1971.

Danny Brown 21:25 Shut up.

Joe Rogan 21:25 Come on, man.

Danny Brown 21:26 Shut up.

Joe Rogan 21:26 Shut up.

Danny Brown 21:27 This would, this would be a great, um, vintage pickup for me.

Joe Rogan 21:30 (laughs)

Danny Brown 21:30 I would buy this. I would buy this. So that was fashionable.

Joe Rogan 21:34 I'll get it for you.

Danny Brown 21:34 We're not making it, we're not making it like that. But I'm trying to tell you, it's some people-

Joe Rogan 21:39 (snickers)

Danny Brown 21:39 It's people... No, it's people... No, I'm telling you. It's people in this world that they're like, "All I got to do, I don't have to look muscular. I don't have to... All I got to do is stay this certain size to be able to fit this certain type of clothing."

Joe Rogan 21:52 Mm.

Danny Brown 21:53 See, that's where y'all are, niggas. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 21:55 No, but I get it. I get it because there's people that work out-

Danny Brown 21:58 But they ain't working out to do that. They just doing coke and not eating.

Joe Rogan 22:01 There's people that work out that also do that. They also get into fashion. I just don't give a fuck.

Danny Brown 22:05 No, it sucks.

Joe Rogan 22:06 I just don't give a fuck. I appreciate it. Like, I, when I see people that are into it, I appreciate it. I don't not like it. Like, when I see someone that has great style, you have great style. Brendan Schaub has great style.

Danny Brown 22:20 No, he doesn't.

Joe Rogan 22:21 I think he does. I like the way he dresses. I think it looks cool. I don't do it, but I like it. I like when people put a little effort in. I like it, but I don't put any effort in.

Danny Brown 22:31 No, because you got mu-

Joe Rogan 22:32 But that's mu-

Danny Brown 22:32 That's what I just told you.

Joe Rogan 22:33 It's not because I have muscles.

Danny Brown 22:35 You got mu-

Joe Rogan 22:35 It's because I'm busy.

Danny Brown 22:35 And then you don't got waves.

Joe Rogan 22:37 I'm busy.

Danny Brown 22:37 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 22:38 I don't have anything, man. I don't have every, anything, man. I got bald, stupid head.

Danny Brown 22:43 But no, no, uh-

Joe Rogan 22:44 But I like when people are into it. I'm not like a, I don't, like, see a guy who dresses nice and go, "Look at this fucking idiot."

Danny Brown 22:49 But no, I tell you, that is, no-

Joe Rogan 22:51 I think it looks good.

Danny Brown 22:52 What I was saying that to say is, that's like a defense mechanism for a lot of people. Where they feel like, "Oh, I don't have to... If I, if I'm just good enough shape to look good in the clothes that I want to wear."

Joe Rogan 23:02 Mm.

Danny Brown 23:02 "That's good enough. I don't have to be muscular or be like, oh, I got fit."

Joe Rogan 23:05 Yeah, that makes sense. It's also, it shows that, like, this is what you care about more, aesthetics and style and cool shit. You know?

Danny Brown 23:13 Um-

Joe Rogan 23:14 Cool shit.

Danny Brown 23:14 Goddamn it. You want to hit me with the fucking fire?

Joe Rogan 23:16 Nice clothes are cool shit.

Danny Brown 23:18 That's, that's all I care about.

Joe Rogan 23:19 I know you do.

Danny Brown 23:20 But you know what's fucked up about me? I think, um, where I'm at this point in my life, where I'm at, "Goddamn it, Daniel. Like, you got to grow up." You know? Because I lived my entire life as a teenager.

Joe Rogan 23:31 I would try to hold that back. If, uh, uh, you and I were closer, I would try to tell you to not grow up and just stay who you are, and you're good.

Danny Brown 23:38 You have to be-

Joe Rogan 23:39 (laughs)

Danny Brown 23:39 You have to have money to not grow up.

Joe Rogan 23:41 I think you could get both.

Danny Brown 23:43 I mean, I've done, I've done good by myself.

Joe Rogan 23:44 When I watch your pod... But watch, I know you have, but when I watch your podcast, I'm like, "This dude has a fucking hilarious podcast." Me and Tom talked about it on the phone.

Danny Brown 23:53 Thank you. Thank you so much.

Joe Rogan 23:53 I called him up, I go, "Dude, Danny Brown kills me." I go, "I watch that show all the time." He goes, "He's so good." And I go, "Isn't it amazing that someone could just, like, jump into podcasting and..." But now I get it, because you were always a fan of listening to podcasts. So you were kind of talking-

Danny Brown 24:07 (coughs)

Joe Rogan 24:07 You were kind of having those conversations in your head.

Danny Brown 24:10 No, you want to hear some other real shit, too? Is my entire musical career, it wouldn't have been what it was if I didn't do interviews.

Joe Rogan 24:19 How's that?

Danny Brown 24:21 My music is one thing, you hear what I'm saying? But when you meet me and talk to me, people like that more than they like my music.

Joe Rogan 24:30 I see what you're saying. So, like, your personality goes along with-

Danny Brown 24:33 And it sells the music.

Joe Rogan 24:34 Yeah.

Danny Brown 24:34 They want you like me-

Joe Rogan 24:36 Yes.

Danny Brown 24:36 ... then you like-

Joe Rogan 24:37 Yes.

Danny Brown 24:37 ... "Oh, I like his music a little bit." You get what I'm saying? So, I think that's what it is.

Joe Rogan 24:41 That's the same for comics with podcasts.

Danny Brown 24:44 I don't know.

Joe Rogan 24:45 Oh, yeah, definitely is. Yeah.

Danny Brown 24:46 I see a lot of hated comics that get a lot of views and get a lot of- and, and doing good for their self and, like, hate watch.

Joe Rogan 24:52 Yeah.

Danny Brown 24:52 Maybe.

Joe Rogan 24:53 I don't know, man. There's a lot of recreational outrage. But I think for the most part-

Danny Brown 24:58 Bro, you got me hot.

Joe Rogan 24:59 ... if you get better and you keep doing-

Danny Brown 25:01 This nigga say it. Brendan Schaub had fire.

Joe Rogan 25:03 I like the way he got dresses.

Danny Brown 25:05 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 25:05 He gets dresses good.

Danny Brown 25:06 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 25:06 Listen, I'm wearing a hoodie. I'm fucking... I dress terrible. I, I, like... Look, but we did get dressed up. I did a show with, uh, Tony Hinchcliffe, Brian Simpson, and Hans Zim at the MGM, and we got David August-

Danny Brown 25:19 Those all my homies. Those are all my homies.

Joe Rogan 25:21 We got David August to design suits for us, so they were custom-made suits. You wanna see this shit? Look at this picture. I'm gonna show you something.

Danny Brown 25:28 No, yeah, show me some shit.

Joe Rogan 25:29 I'll show you.

Danny Brown 25:29 No, I, I did some, uh...

Joe Rogan 25:31 Listen, I'm not always gross.

Danny Brown 25:33 No, I never thought about that.

Joe Rogan 25:34 But most... But bro, I don't mean it that way. But, I mean, most of the time, I just don't give a fuck about, like, what I'm wearing. I wear what I like to wear, what looks comfortable for me or-

Danny Brown 25:41 Let me tell you like this.

Joe Rogan 25:42 I like the shirtless.

Danny Brown 25:43 If you was to hop on some fashion shit and show up with a crazy fucking Gucci shirt on or something like that-

Joe Rogan 25:48 (laughs)

Danny Brown 25:49 ... I would judge you way more (laughs) than anything else. You get what I'm saying?

Joe Rogan 25:54 Of course.

Danny Brown 25:55 'Cause-

Joe Rogan 25:55 Then you're trying hard.

Danny Brown 25:56 You know, the thing is with me is, is, is fashion is about us being... I mean, we don't wanna be raised in urban communities, but, you know, they say, like, black people or... When you broke, you don't got it like that, so you just wanna kinda look like you got it like that.

Joe Rogan 26:12 Yes.

Danny Brown 26:12 So, being in the hood, bro.

Joe Rogan 26:13 No, I ka- I completely get it. That's-

Danny Brown 26:15 So, yeah. So, being in the hood-

Joe Rogan 26:16 That's with Italians as well. It's very-

Danny Brown 26:18 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 26:18 ... s- very similar with my family.

Danny Brown 26:19 So, that's all it is. In my whole fashion... Bro, fashion fucked up my school. Like, it fucked up my life.

Joe Rogan 26:25 How?

Danny Brown 26:26 'Cause I would, 'cause I would skip school all the time just to go buy clothes.

Joe Rogan 26:30 Really?

Danny Brown 26:31 Yes.

Joe Rogan 26:32 Wow.

Danny Brown 26:32 Hudson's. Oh, see, it's not called Hudson's anymore. Or, uh, Hudson's to what people would be... It would be Macy's. So, if Macy's had a clearance sale, the clearance sale is happening on Tuesday. All me and my f- fashion buddies we know, on Tuesday. Macy's having a clearance sale. We show up in front of the school like gangbanging, like we about to go do some ill shit.

Joe Rogan 26:57 (laughs)

Danny Brown 26:57 But, no, we literally just trying to go buy a $40 polo. None of us have money like that. We all high school kids. The most somebody probably have on them is $300 at the most. You get what I'm saying? But you can go Armani Exchange, like... I remember I caught an Armani Exchange T-shirt for, like, $25. But when I looked on the tag, it was like $125. It's like, "Ugh." Like, shit like that was like going back home like, "Ooh, I'm about to wear this tomorrow. I'm about to kill shit."

Joe Rogan 27:25 Oh.

Danny Brown 27:25 You get what I'm saying?

Joe Rogan 27:25 Yeah.

Danny Brown 27:26 No one gave a fuck. (laughs) No one gave a fuck, but it's just... So, yeah. But even-

Joe Rogan 27:33 So, the clothes represented something to you that was, like, unattainable, represented cool shit that was-

Danny Brown 27:40 Oh, yeah. Even now.

Joe Rogan 27:41 ... that people wanted.

Danny Brown 27:42 To this day, like me doing a podcast, I still bring something from school, like... If niggas wanna watch the podcast, I haven't worn the same shirt twice.

Joe Rogan 27:51 (laughs) Really?

Danny Brown 27:53 No.

Joe Rogan 27:54 So, you, you thought-

Danny Brown 27:55 So, I'm buying shirts every week, like, "Oh, fuck, I gotta-"

Joe Rogan 27:58 And tell everybody, like, you thought y- y- the podcast was gonna be tomorrow and you had some shit prepared.

Danny Brown 28:04 Oh, no, I had a ill-ass... Oh, I got this ill-ass fucking... Part two, I'm glad I didn't 'cause I feel like people would've seen that, like, "This nigga trying too hard."

Joe Rogan 28:11 (laughs)

Danny Brown 28:11 He doing some... No, part two, so I thank God did it for a reason.

Joe Rogan 28:14 Maybe, right?

Danny Brown 28:14 'Cause I probably shouldn't have been on here like that 'cause I did, I did-

Joe Rogan 28:17 What were you wearing? What were you gonna wear?

Danny Brown 28:19 No, it's... I, I got this ill-ass... I got this leather jacket, uh, the new leather jacket. It got, like, spikes and shit on there.

Joe Rogan 28:24 Will you please wear it the next time you come on?

Danny Brown 28:26 Oh, I'm coming back?

Joe Rogan 28:27 Fuck, yeah.

Danny Brown 28:28 Ah!

Joe Rogan 28:30 (laughs)

Danny Brown 28:30 You heard him say it.

Joe Rogan 28:31 100%.

Danny Brown 28:32 I'm back. I'm back.

Joe Rogan 28:33 Fuck, yeah. 100%.

Danny Brown 28:34 But, no, no, but I'm glad it happened like this because I actually was kinda stressed out about it.

Joe Rogan 28:40 I, I do seriously enjoy people that dress nice. It just, for me, it's like I, I-

Danny Brown 28:46 No, I don't think me-

Joe Rogan 28:46 ... enjoy flowers, but I'm not planting any.

Danny Brown 28:50 Am I dressing nice? I don't think you would consider that to be dressed nice.

Joe Rogan 28:53 I don't know. Let me see. That's us. Come on, son.

Danny Brown 28:55 How is you looking?

Joe Rogan 28:55 We look good.

Danny Brown 28:57 Look at Hans Kim.

Joe Rogan 28:58 Look at Hans Kim.

Danny Brown 28:59 I was mad.

Joe Rogan 29:00 Look at young Jamie with, with the fucking sunglasses at night. (laughs) That's how high we were. That was-

Danny Brown 29:06 Where was this? Where was this?

Joe Rogan 29:07 That was, uh, at the MGM in Vegas. We all did the-

Danny Brown 29:09 Oh, shit. Vegas.

Joe Rogan 29:10 ... MGM arena.

Danny Brown 29:10 Oh, Vegas. I have so many bad memories of Vegas.

Joe Rogan 29:13 (laughs)

Danny Brown 29:14 I never leave my hotel room in Vegas.

Joe Rogan 29:16 Really?

Danny Brown 29:16 No, every time I've been in Vegas, I've just been there and I just do what I got going on and next thing I know-

Joe Rogan 29:21 You gamble? Do you gamble at all?

Danny Brown 29:23 (sighs) No, I don't gamble. But I-

Joe Rogan 29:24 Good.

Danny Brown 29:24 I do gamble to lose money.

Joe Rogan 29:27 Wanna lose money?

Danny Brown 29:28 No, that's the way I gamble.

Joe Rogan 29:30 Oh, you gamble wild.

Danny Brown 29:31 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 29:32 Yeah.

Danny Brown 29:32 With no intentions of winning.

Joe Rogan 29:34 Yeah.

Danny Brown 29:34 So, let's just say, like, if I go to Vegas, I be like, "All right, I'm gonna get 1,000 out," and I just wild out with a little thousand dollars. Once I lose my $1,000, that's a wrap.

Joe Rogan 29:41 Yeah.

Danny Brown 29:41 I ain't doing nothing else.

Joe Rogan 29:42 I, I played blackjack with my wife. We were in town for something and we played blackjack for, like, an hour, and I said, "All right. I g- I'm gonna... I have, like, 400 bucks on me." I go, "Let's just try that." It was gone in, like, a half an hour. I'm not, I'm not even aggressively betting. I'm just terrible. I don't have any desire, you know?

Danny Brown 30:00 No, it... That, that's the whole thing with me. Last time I was in Vegas, I fucking, um... I'm like, "All right. Um, it's time for me to go." So, like, fuck it, let me just throw a little-

Joe Rogan 30:11 Yeah.

Danny Brown 30:12 ... hundred dollar hand on it. It was time for me to go. Got that motherfucker hit. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 30:16 Oh, no. Then you're hooked.

Danny Brown 30:18 Yes, it is.

Joe Rogan 30:20 You see, you see what Drake's been doing?

Danny Brown 30:21 So, now, so, look, so, listen, this the fucked up part with me. I get it all... I run it... I'm on a roulette table. I run it all the way up to, like, 10 racks.I put 10 racks on one number.

Joe Rogan 30:33 No. Oh my God.

Danny Brown 30:35 'Cause I been... I started with a hundred, so my whole shit was like, you know, whatever. So I put the 10 racks on the whole... Obviously I lose.

Joe Rogan 30:45 They count on that. That's the whole game.

Danny Brown 30:49 So obviously I lose. I lose the 10 racks.

Joe Rogan 30:51 Yeah.

Danny Brown 30:51 I'm so pissed, so I just leave. I was just so pissed, just leave out, but I left my wallet, my phone. I'm over here at the airport now, time to board my flight.

Joe Rogan 31:04 Oh no.

Danny Brown 31:05 I don't got shit. Now I gotta go all the way back to the casino. I get back, and guess what? My shit's sittin' on the table.

Joe Rogan 31:13 Right there.

Danny Brown 31:13 Nowhere... I didn't even touch it. No one ever even came to this fucking table. So I get that.

Joe Rogan 31:20 That's lucky.

Danny Brown 31:21 What you think I do?

Joe Rogan 31:24 What did God do?

Danny Brown 31:25 What did I do?

Joe Rogan 31:26 What did you do?

Danny Brown 31:27 I was looking for revenge. I had to go get back.

Joe Rogan 31:29 You went back in.

Danny Brown 31:30 I said, "Fuck the flight."

Joe Rogan 31:31 Fuck the flight.

Danny Brown 31:32 And went into the ATM, grabbed some cash out.

Joe Rogan 31:36 How much did you wind up down?

Danny Brown 31:37 Oh, 5,000.

Joe Rogan 31:38 (laughs) Isn't that crazy? You know how many stories Vegas has like that?

Danny Brown 31:44 No, and that was br- How you do this?

Joe Rogan 31:46 Uh, flip it up.

Danny Brown 31:46 And that was broke for me. That ain't no real money. You get what I'm saying?

Joe Rogan 31:50 You put it at the top of the...

Danny Brown 31:51 Oh shit. But yeah.

Joe Rogan 31:53 Yeah.

Danny Brown 31:53 You got me? They got me.

Joe Rogan 31:54 They got you. They'll get you.

Danny Brown 31:56 They got me.

Joe Rogan 31:56 The only thing that I like to bet on is fights. The other side, flip it to the other side, and then pull that thing down, that black thing. And if you put the one that's on the top, the little switch. Yeah. Just pull that down. Pull it down. There you go.

Danny Brown 32:07 Oh shit.

Joe Rogan 32:11 Yeah, I mean, that's the reason why they're so big. They're not big because they lose money. These fucking giant places. What, you run out of juice? Yeah, I'll fill that thing up.

Danny Brown 32:22 My bad. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 32:24 It's just, I, I, I met too many people that were, uh, gambling addicts, you know. I used to play a lot of pool, and I was always around these dudes that were like hardcore gambling addicts. They would gamble on pool, they would gamble on playing poker, they would all do off-track betting, 'cause in New York you could gamble on like horse racing and shit, carriage racing. You could gamble on so many different things. So the pool hall was where all the gambling junkies hung out. Gambling scares the shit out of me.

Danny Brown 32:54 Only thing I ever gamble on... We shoot dice.

Joe Rogan 32:57 To what?

Danny Brown 32:58 Shoot dice.

Joe Rogan 32:59 Oh, sh- ... Dice. Yeah.

Danny Brown 32:59 Yeah, in a bathroom at high school.

Joe Rogan 33:02 Yeah. Ga- p- f- gambling's exciting, but it should be fucking legal. The idea that it's not legal in some places, to me, is just-

Danny Brown 33:07 I mean, sports gambling-

Joe Rogan 33:09 You good?

Danny Brown 33:09 ... is one of the things that's... You know what I'm saying? Like-

Joe Rogan 33:11 Yeah.

Danny Brown 33:12 'Cause even... I'm on a-

Joe Rogan 33:13 It's fun. Sports gambling is fun.

Danny Brown 33:15 I hate to say it, man, but the Adesanya fight, I knew he was going to lose.

Joe Rogan 33:19 How did you... How could you say that? He almost won.

Danny Brown 33:23 Just his eye.

Joe Rogan 33:23 He was three rounds down.

Danny Brown 33:24 I ain't gonna lie.

Joe Rogan 33:25 Or three rounds up rather.

Danny Brown 33:26 Just his eye.

Joe Rogan 33:27 His eyes? What?

Danny Brown 33:28 Something about it when he was talking.

Joe Rogan 33:30 Come on, damn it.

Danny Brown 33:30 And I was just... I swear, this is me.

Joe Rogan 33:32 Okay. His eyes, this is what his eyes were like?

Danny Brown 33:34 No, this is me. And I bet on a lot of fights and I win a lot.

Joe Rogan 33:37 Yeah?

Danny Brown 33:38 And... (laughs) But I will say I, I bet against him on the Cannonier fight, so I was-

Joe Rogan 33:44 Wow, that's a risky guy too.

Danny Brown 33:45 Yeah, that was a li- ... But I thought I was trying to come up. I was being... I was trying to come u-... But this fight, I just kind of felt, I felt sorry for him kinda, like I knew it. Like just his eyes, the way he looked, something about the way he looked and the way... Even when he walked out, just something in his face to me, I was like, "Man, this nigga about to lose." And I wanted to call all my homies and be like, "Man, bet, bet, bet against Alde-" ... But I didn't want to lose people money, so I just kept my shit to myself and I was like-

Joe Rogan 34:10 This is-

Danny Brown 34:10 But I honestly felt in myself-

Joe Rogan 34:12 This is what you're seeing.

Danny Brown 34:12 ... like, "This nigga about to lose."

Joe Rogan 34:13 This is what you're seeing. You're not seeing that he's thinking he's gonna lose or that he's scared to lose. What you're seeing is the magnitude of the guy he's about to fight. And that's... You can't change that. It doesn't change how a man performs once he's under duress and stress, but you can't ignore the magnitude. And d- ... If you ever go back and watch Mike Tyson fights, this is where you see it the best. When dudes were walking into that ring to fight Mike Tyson, they looked like they were being executed.

Danny Brown 34:41 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 34:42 They were going to their death. They were getting arrested. They were getting processed. They had this look in their face like, "Fuck."

Danny Brown 34:47 Are you saying Israel ain't had that look on his face to you?

Joe Rogan 34:51 Israel definitely did not have that look in his face. What he had a look on his face is an understanding of what that fucking guy can do.

Danny Brown 34:58 Of what could hap- of what could happen.

Joe Rogan 34:59 That guy, Alex Pereira-

Danny Brown 35:00 But I never seen that from him. I never seen that.

Joe Rogan 35:02 But because that guy's already knocked him out. That guy knocked him out in kick fights.

Danny Brown 35:05 I know. I seen, I seen... I watched all that shit.

Joe Rogan 35:06 Bro, that guy's a fucking destroyer. You gotta understand, like people are looking-

Danny Brown 35:12 This nigga's shooting bows and arrows.

Joe Rogan 35:13 ... people are looking at him beating Izzy, right? But you don't understand, nobody even touches Izzy. Nobody touches him. And Pereira just put him away. But nobody... J- ... Izzy fights Jan Blachowicz, who is the light heavyweight champ.

Danny Brown 35:26 No, even... No, uh, um, him beating, um, Romero.

Joe Rogan 35:31 Yeah.

Danny Brown 35:31 And then him beating Costa. Like-

Joe Rogan 35:33 Yeah.

Danny Brown 35:33 ... didn't he... like d- ... And then, uh, fucking-

Joe Rogan 35:35 The Paulo Costa fight.

Danny Brown 35:36 ... Whittaker was in there.

Joe Rogan 35:37 Bro, the Paulo Costa fight, Paulo Costa is a fucking marauder.

Danny Brown 35:40 Bro.

Joe Rogan 35:40 That dude is like-

Danny Brown 35:41 That nigga don't even need to fight.

Joe Rogan 35:42 ... so jacked.

Danny Brown 35:43 He needs to start a OnlyFans.

Joe Rogan 35:44 So good-looking.

Danny Brown 35:45 Just start a OnlyFans. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 35:46 But that fucking dude just marches people down and smashes them. He m- he marched down Yoel Romero and he didn't even touch Izzy. He didn't even touch him, but that's how good Pereira is. He's that good.

Danny Brown 35:59 No, he's... I mean, he's definitely terrified.

Joe Rogan 36:01 He's that good.

Danny Brown 36:01 But, uh, see, that's what, one thing, uh, like that's what I was saying. Me just fucking with the Muay Thai class and shit.

Joe Rogan 36:07 Dude, I was trying to warn people.

Danny Brown 36:08 'Cause a lot of time, I get drunk, I talk shit.

Joe Rogan 36:11 Of course you do.

Danny Brown 36:11 I talk shit to people.

Joe Rogan 36:12 Now imagine talking shit to-

Danny Brown 36:13 It, it doesn't help.

Joe Rogan 36:13 ... a guy like Pereira accidentally.

Danny Brown 36:13 But no, not even that. Imagine talking shit to a fucking nurse.

Joe Rogan 36:17 (laughs)

Danny Brown 36:17 (laughs) Fucking, uh, secretary that take Mu- that been taking Muay Thai for three years.

Joe Rogan 36:21 She, she's easy with the nuts.

Danny Brown 36:21 You don't even know this bitch doing it.

Joe Rogan 36:23 (laughs)

Danny Brown 36:23 And, and that's what I seen. They actually had, um, Stamp Feretak, she actually, uh, did a session, I mean, um, a thing at our gym.

Joe Rogan 36:30 Oh, wow.

Danny Brown 36:30 And just even seeing her and how small she is and n- like, "Bro."

Joe Rogan 36:34 Yeah.

Danny Brown 36:35 "Bro, I'm good. I'm good." So I mean, it humbled me.

Joe Rogan 36:40 I will say that. Well, it's just a little bit of a reality check.

Danny Brown 36:44 But the thing is, we live in Texas.

Joe Rogan 36:46 Yeah. True.

Danny Brown 36:47 And it's, all these niggas got guns.

Joe Rogan 36:49 For sure.

Danny Brown 36:50 Everybody got guns. So it's like, what is ... You can't even-

Joe Rogan 36:54 Listen, no one is ever saying that martial arts are better than having a gun. No one's ever saying that. What I'm saying is, just for your own hat-

Danny Brown 37:01 Yeah. Just, uh, yeah.

Joe Rogan 37:02 Just for your own hat, it's good to know how to fight.

Danny Brown 37:04 No, 'cause the last-

Joe Rogan 37:05 So if someone gets crazy with you, (sighs) you just go, "Okay."

Danny Brown 37:09 Last time I was in the gym, they was like, "Oh, we need to ..." You know, he was talking about that kind of, kind of ... I said, "Man, I can't fight nobody. They gonna sue me."

Joe Rogan 37:16 You don't want to fight somebody. But what I'm saying is what if somebody wants to fight you?

Danny Brown 37:20 But to protect yourself. That's why you got guns.

Joe Rogan 37:21 Yeah, but if you don't get to the gun. It's just a good thing.

Danny Brown 37:24 I'm going to have it on me.

Joe Rogan 37:25 It's just, I believe you.

Danny Brown 37:26 Especially since we here and you can have it.

Joe Rogan 37:28 It's a good thing to know.

Danny Brown 37:28 So it makes sense just to have a gun.

Joe Rogan 37:30 Yeah.

Danny Brown 37:30 Espe- especially as a Black man in America.

Joe Rogan 37:32 Do you believe that a well-armed society is a polite society?

Danny Brown 37:37 No.

Joe Rogan 37:38 No, not at all?

Danny Brown 37:39 No. Because just me being able to travel and, like, going to, like, Europe and shit like that where guns aren't a thing, and I see how well-behaved people act because of that simple notion. Like right now, like what I talked about, like, going to Muay Thai, how much that humbled me in being that ... But at the end of the day, I should never having that feeling anyway.

Joe Rogan 37:57 Right.

Danny Brown 37:58 Because-

Joe Rogan 37:58 No one should have that feeling.

Danny Brown 37:59 But only reason why I have that feeling because I know guns exist. And I ha- You know, if I have a gun on me you can't say sh- I don't give a fuck how muscle you got, I'll shoot you, bitch. Shut the fuck up.

Joe Rogan 38:06 Right.

Danny Brown 38:07 But now in, over those countries it's all about brute strength.

Joe Rogan 38:11 Right.

Danny Brown 38:11 It's knives and ... You know what I'm saying?

Joe Rogan 38:13 It's the knives thing is fucking terrifying.

Danny Brown 38:13 You gotta be rich to have a gun. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 38:15 Yeah.

Danny Brown 38:16 And we over here, we got motherfucking niggas over here making 3D printeds.

Joe Rogan 38:20 Yeah.

Danny Brown 38:20 I can get a 3D printer heater right now.

Joe Rogan 38:22 They're making ghost guns.

Danny Brown 38:23 Shoots same way.

Joe Rogan 38:25 Yeah. But makes sense they can 3D print everything now. They, like, they make fake Rolexes.

Danny Brown 38:29 But the guns is different.

Joe Rogan 38:31 They make fake Rolexes-

Danny Brown 38:32 That's still fake.

Joe Rogan 38:32 ... that are exactly the same as a Rolex.

Danny Brown 38:35 That's still fake.

Joe Rogan 38:36 But you know what I'm saying? Like, they do that.

Danny Brown 38:38 Actually-

Joe Rogan 38:38 There's like a whole market.

Danny Brown 38:39 Actually-

Joe Rogan 38:39 They can make a gun easy.

Danny Brown 38:40 As replicas or anything, but a replica of a gun will still kill you. Oh, yeah, a replica of a Rolex, th- (laughs) that's whatever.

Joe Rogan 38:46 No, it's a real gun. It's a real gun.

Danny Brown 38:48 So, yeah, they could-

Joe Rogan 38:49 And they can, and they can 3D print them. Wasn't there a guy that, like, invented this shit a long time ago? And there was, like, some big controversy about it? He was showing people how to 3D print guns, like, on YouTube or something like that.

Danny Brown 39:00 No, it's still going on. I watch. I follow that.

Joe Rogan 39:02 I know, I know, I know, I know, but wasn't there a guy that was, like, one of the first guys that was censored off of YouTube? Am I misremembering this? I may, I maybe. I might be misremembering it, but I remember when that shit first started happening, where they were making 3D printed guns and people were like, "This is insane." Like, "We have to stop this." And they're like, "Well, there's no law that can stop it." And it was like ... I guess it's state by state.

Danny Brown 39:24 No, no, um ...

Joe Rogan 39:25 But, yeah, they 3D print guns.

Danny Brown 39:26 I gotta piss.

Joe Rogan 39:27 Go, go pee.

Danny Brown 39:28 I'm sorry. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 39:29 (laughs) I saw that look on your face like you were contemplating something. Go piss and come back. Da, da, da. Danny Brown, freshly drained.

Danny Brown 39:42 No, yeah. My bad. Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 39:43 No worries. I do it all the time. I fuck up coming here, too much water in me. Like, "Oh, Goddamn it."

Danny Brown 39:49 No, that's all it was. I've been drinking ... No, 'cause I've been on this, um ... I wake up at, like, 5:00 AM now.

Joe Rogan 39:53 Yeah? 5:00 AM?

Danny Brown 39:54 No, but I'm an early sleeper. Yeah, I'm an early sleeper anyway. So it's not like ... What happened was, you know how motherfuckers talk about that on some workout shit and be like, "Uh." I'm just actually one of those guys that do that. So then, like, I'm like, "Man, maybe I should take advantage of that shit."

Joe Rogan 40:08 Yeah, why not?

Danny Brown 40:08 So now, like, I, I wake up at, like, 5:00. I'm like ... 'Cause, yeah, so I do. I wake up at 5:00, 'cause I never was, like, a workout person. And, but now I can get so much shit done before my girl even work up.

Joe Rogan 40:18 Mm-hmm.

Danny Brown 40:18 Like, 10 ... When 10:00 AM come it's like, "Oh, my eye, bitch." You don't even know. (laughs) I'm dead, dude. I gotta watch the dogs and shit and go to sleep and shit. But, yeah, so, so now I've been just taking advantage of being able to wake up that early with no ... But I think that's come from stress type shit.

Joe Rogan 40:36 Yeah.

Danny Brown 40:36 To be honest.

Joe Rogan 40:37 Where you just don't feel good sleeping.

Danny Brown 40:39 Um, just working on music.

Joe Rogan 40:41 You miss tension.

Danny Brown 40:41 I think, 'cause he ... Oh, I was just talking about ... Actually, you know who was just here? Fucking Hannibal. Hannibal was fucking here. Um, I was doing my fucking, um, show. I wish I would've fucking knew he was here. Then he just showed up at the ... And I was like, "Man, you might as well come over here with us." But he had to, um, leave. But, uh, oh, fuck I ... Oh, fuck out what I was gonna say. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 41:02 (laughs)

Danny Brown 41:02 But, no, Hannibal. No, um-

Joe Rogan 41:03 We were talking about-

Danny Brown 41:04 Oh, no. Oh, I was just telling him that I feel like when, you know, y'all as comedians and shit, y'all make specials. It's, like, instant gratification in that sense because y'all could do good ... Y'all, I mean, I know y'all worked on a special for years and years, but then y'all actually do it in front of a live audience. Even though the audience know it's a special. I mean, it is what it is, you know? Y'all do the specials.

Joe Rogan 41:23 Have you thought about doing specials? I know you're doing a little standup.

Danny Brown 41:27 No, I'm not.

Joe Rogan 41:28 Not at all? At Kill Tony?

Danny Brown 41:30 No, now, I mean, I go in there and I have fun and shit, but-

Joe Rogan 41:32 But didn't you stan- didn't you s- do, like, a minute on Kill Tony?

Danny Brown 41:36 No.

Joe Rogan 41:37 You never did?

Danny Brown 41:37 I never did nothing but, um ...

Joe Rogan 41:39 You only just sat as a guest?

Danny Brown 41:40 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 41:41 Okay. I'm, I'm on.

Danny Brown 41:41 But now I'm starting to take it serious because all y'all motherfuckers keep telling me I'm funny.

Joe Rogan 41:45 I know what it is, it's Tony. Tony was telling me that he's trying to get you to do it, right?

Danny Brown 41:48 No, everybody keep telling me that I'm funny.

Joe Rogan 41:50 Yeah.

Danny Brown 41:50 And they like, "You can do it." That's, I guess, is what I'm, I'm talking about.

Joe Rogan 41:54 You can do it. You can do it.

Danny Brown 41:54 Uh, but, you know, the thing is that I'm a nerd about is the writing aspect of it.

Joe Rogan 41:59 Good.

Danny Brown 41:59 So, um, I love to write. Uh, even me writing songs, like, I, I always say this all the time, like, I probably ... I don't know. I mean, I'm more, I'm better of a, uh, a writer than I am a rapper. You get what I'm saying? So ...

Joe Rogan 42:10 Danny, you're a funny dude.

Danny Brown 42:13 I mean-

Joe Rogan 42:13 You, you 100% could do standup. You, you just like the way you approach music and the way you now have approached podcasting, you could do standup.

Danny Brown 42:22 No, no, I w- See, that's the thing about ... Just the fact that someone like you tell me, someone like Tom, Hanging with Tony.

Joe Rogan 42:28 Yeah.

Danny Brown 42:28 So it's like, I'd be a, a dickhead to not try.

Joe Rogan 42:31 You have to try.

Danny Brown 42:31 And not to do. But-

Joe Rogan 42:32 You should do it.

Danny Brown 42:33 The whole shit in the beginning was like, "Man, I bombed at rap for, like, 20 years." (laughs)

Joe Rogan 42:41 (laughs)

Danny Brown 42:41 Why would I want to stand on stage and try to tell jokes and bomb and, and go through that? But then I actually started thinking about it and I'm like, "Maybe this is, like, a second calling in my life."

Joe Rogan 42:51 I think it ... This is why I think it is. W- On your show, you have hilarious stories and you got a great way of telling them.You just, you have a great way of telling stories. It's fun.

Danny Brown 43:02 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 43:02 It's funny.

Danny Brown 43:03 No, that's the thing that I love about doing it-

Joe Rogan 43:04 You can just translate-

Danny Brown 43:04 ... is I'm having fun right now, is not-

Joe Rogan 43:06 You can translate that to stand-up. That's, you watch Tim Dillon?

Danny Brown 43:09 No, I love Tim Dillon.

Joe Rogan 43:10 That's what Tim Dillon does. He does that rant on his show.

Danny Brown 43:13 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 43:14 He's the best ranter alive. He does these rants, and then he takes chunks of those rants and they become bits. Like, that's how you come up with material. It's like, what you're doing is next-door neighbor to stand-up.

Danny Brown 43:24 (laughs) Yo, see that's the thing too, 'cause you can't always be, like... See, I was always that guy. Like, I was funnier... Like, you can be the funniest guy at the family reunion, but that don't translate on stage.

Joe Rogan 43:36 (laughs) But Danny, you know how to be on stage. See, you know how to be in front of the camera.

Danny Brown 43:40 Oh, 'cause for me being a rapper-

Joe Rogan 43:40 See, you're saying it doesn't translate on stage.

Danny Brown 43:42 No. No, no, no.

Joe Rogan 43:43 No, no, no. Even in front of the camera, you're saying it doesn't translate on stage. But that's just like your funny uncle who can't go on stage at an open mic night 'cause he's fucking nervous.

Danny Brown 43:51 That's who I am.

Joe Rogan 43:52 Yeah, but you're not that, 'cause you're not nervous. You're not nervous doing your podcast and you're not nervous when you're rapping.

Danny Brown 43:58 No, I'm not. I'm not.

Joe Rogan 43:58 You're not nervous. So you're not nervous in front of people.

Danny Brown 44:01 No.

Joe Rogan 44:01 But you tell stories in front of people in front of the camera, and they're fucking hilarious. It's, you're not nervous doing that. You're not, it, it's not the same thing.

Danny Brown 44:09 I think the only thing that I'm scared of is that I respect comedy so much and I know its, like, it's almost gatekeepy.

Joe Rogan 44:18 It shouldn't be. That's good-

Danny Brown 44:20 But you understand what I'm saying?

Joe Rogan 44:21 ... that you respect it, but it's not really gatekeepy.

Danny Brown 44:22 Like, if I'm-

Joe Rogan 44:23 We let every, we really do let everybody off.

Danny Brown 44:25 Like, even, let's just imagine, okay, let's say tomorrow if I'm just, like, super good with comedy, like, like comedians will hate me.

Joe Rogan 44:31 No, no, no, the dumb ones.

Danny Brown 44:32 And I wanna be friends with people too.

Joe Rogan 44:34 Listen, bro, they're not gonna hate you. The ones that are gonna hate you are idiots.

Danny Brown 44:37 Like, comedians... C- the idiot, idiot comedians will hate you.

Joe Rogan 44:40 It's, this is like Royal Rumble.

Danny Brown 44:41 Ha.

Joe Rogan 44:42 (laughs)

Danny Brown 44:43 (laughs) But if you're good, you're good now.

Joe Rogan 44:44 Comed- being a comedian is like being in the Royal Rumble.

Danny Brown 44:46 But-

Joe Rogan 44:46 Who gonna throw each other off the first... You get what I'm saying? Like-

Danny Brown 44:49 But Danny-

Joe Rogan 44:49 Even now with podcasting, having to beef with another comedian, like, driving your views, so now I already see, nigga, before we know it, nigga, it's gonna be like podcast comedian beefs is gonna be like rap songs and shit. We one step away from that. Yeah, well, that's always gonna happen with some people. Some people just love to get mad and talk shit about people, it's like their favorite recreation or something.

Danny Brown 45:10 But that's the way they get the views and that's the way it drops you.

Joe Rogan 45:13 (sighs) But you don't have to participate in that.

Danny Brown 45:14 No, no, no.

Joe Rogan 45:15 But d- but what I'm saying about you-

Danny Brown 45:17 Oh, I'm not gonna participate in that-

Joe Rogan 45:18 I know you're not.

Danny Brown 45:18 ... 'cause you gonna figure out if this Muay Thai work.

Joe Rogan 45:21 (laughs)

Danny Brown 45:21 (laughs) Nigga come on some podcasts talking shit about Danny Brown. Nigga, I ain't coming back on no podcast talking about you.

Joe Rogan 45:28 But Danny, what I'm trying to say is, uh, there's, you have zero fears about being gatekeeped. People are just gonna wanna see if you can do it.

Danny Brown 45:34 I been there.

Joe Rogan 45:35 Go have fun. People already love you from your show. They love you from Your Mom's House. They love you when you guest on Kill Tony. You, you, you can just do it.

Danny Brown 45:44 Yeah. No. No, that's where I'm at now because you gotta think, that's a total 360 from my rap career.

Joe Rogan 45:51 It isn't. It isn't, man. You, you know-

Danny Brown 45:53 I don't even, Joe Rogan, I don't think you know.

Joe Rogan 45:54 It's your creativity. It's your creativity. It's your mind.

Danny Brown 45:56 My rap career is a total different world than what this is.

Joe Rogan 46:00 Of course.

Danny Brown 46:00 My rap career, I would say, what made that bad is that I, I started a little too old. So I didn't really get recognition or, you know, 'til I was 30 years old. And you gotta think, I've been trying to do this my entire 20s, so when I started to be a rapper and get recognition for it and being that, I c- I had a bitter attitude towards it.

Joe Rogan 46:25 Hmm.

Danny Brown 46:26 You get what I'm saying? 'Cause it took-

Joe Rogan 46:27 Yeah.

Danny Brown 46:27 ... so long for it to happen. And then-

Joe Rogan 46:29 That s- that happens to a lot of people.

Danny Brown 46:30 And then now I'm, I'm 30 years old, as a 30-year-old rapper, it's like how, the, the, it's like a ticking time bomb at that point, like, how much time you got.

Joe Rogan 46:39 Really?

Danny Brown 46:40 So I'm already in my head. Like, I will say, uh, a lot of people say, like, being a rapper is dangerous, like, you know, 'cause all the killings and shit like, but I would say being a rapper is dangerous in a sense because once you do it, you can't do nothing else. It ruins you.

Joe Rogan 46:59 How so?

Danny Brown 46:59 So let's just say, okay, let's just say I, I was a rapper and then it failed, and then I gotta go get a normal job.

Joe Rogan 47:06 Well, if anything fails then-

Danny Brown 47:07 But I had minimal success. You saw my video somewhere, I had a couple views.

Joe Rogan 47:11 Yeah.

Danny Brown 47:11 And now I'm working at a job with you. Now you like, "Oh, you blah, blah. Uh, yeah." So that, and then everywhere you go somebody, "Uh, you was a..."

Joe Rogan 47:22 That's true for your acting too.

Danny Brown 47:22 So you're always recognized-

Joe Rogan 47:24 That's true for your acting too.

Danny Brown 47:25 So you're always getting acknowledged for your failures.

Joe Rogan 47:28 But that's true of anybody in the public eye now.

Danny Brown 47:29 Every time someone... So just imagine, every time someone recognizes you, they're acknowledging your failure. That hurts. It hurts.

Joe Rogan 47:40 Of course it does. But th- that's what happens in all walks of life. Anytime when you fail and people get to shit on you-

Danny Brown 47:49 How, if you, if you work fries at, if you work-

Joe Rogan 47:49 ... and if you're public, if you're a public person-

Danny Brown 47:51 ... fries at McDonald's, no one cares. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 47:54 Don't you remember Gary Coleman?

Danny Brown 47:55 Nigga, Arnold-

Joe Rogan 47:56 Gary Coleman from Differnt Strokes.

Danny Brown 47:57 Arnold?

Joe Rogan 47:57 Yeah, he started working as a security guard and people would just shit on him relentlessly. I'm like, imagine that, 'cause if he was just a security guard, no one would care. You would never walk up to a security guard and go, "Look at this fucking loser."

Danny Brown 48:08 So-

Joe Rogan 48:08 You're a security guard-

Danny Brown 48:09 That's exactly what I'm saying. So is me-

Joe Rogan 48:10 It's the same thing with actors too.

Danny Brown 48:11 So me being Danny Brown-

Joe Rogan 48:12 Yeah, but-

Danny Brown 48:12 ... I can never go back to being a nor-, I can't never go back to being Daniel.

Joe Rogan 48:16 So, Danny, you don't have to, first of all.

Danny Brown 48:18 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 48:18 And, and don't. And don't even think about it.

Danny Brown 48:20 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 48:21 Don't even think about it. You don't have to.

Danny Brown 48:22 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 48:22 You're never gonna have to do that. I know what you're saying, but you, you can't think about, like, worst case scenario and, and, and dwell on it like that. You are a personality, and a personality can do anything it wants to do. You're a fun guy.

Danny Brown 48:39 I think about that and, uh, and I love that too, because you gotta think, the last album I put out was 2019.

Joe Rogan 48:45 Yeah, you were saying that, that-

Danny Brown 48:46 And I was, um-

Joe Rogan 48:47 ... like, you still, you're touring infrequently.

Danny Brown 48:49 No, I worked on a album with Q-Tip, from, you know, just to be able to work with Q-Tip-

Joe Rogan 48:54 Hmm.

Danny Brown 48:55 Was such a fucking big deal to me.

Joe Rogan 48:57 For sure.

Danny Brown 48:57 And, you know, it, it, it gave me confidence in my music.... to be in the fact that, uh, A Tribe Called Quest was my dad's favorite rap group. I remember-

Joe Rogan 49:08 Wow.

Danny Brown 49:08 ... going ... My dad taking me to fucking preschool, ki- ... I mean, um, preschool. It wasn't that early, but whatever.

Joe Rogan 49:14 Whatever it was.

Danny Brown 49:14 But elementary school, my dad taking me to school and he listening to A Tribe Called Quest. And before I know it, one day I'm sitting in the studio with Q-Tip every day, working on an album. So it was fucking ... It, it was a big deal. You know what I'm saying? It was a big deal for me. And, you know, we made that album and ... I just think, um, the world of music have changed so much, where like, um, a 10-second TikTok beat means way more than you putting out a single.

Joe Rogan 49:50 Hm.

Danny Brown 49:50 You understand what I'm saying?

Joe Rogan 49:51 Yeah.

Danny Brown 49:52 Like that whole shit changed. So the way I grew up ... The way I grew up, like me, my favorite rapper is Nas. And Nas just put out a new album, and that album is fucking amazing. And you know why that album is amazing? It's because Nas is having fucking fun and Nas able to make music without any fucking ... And you gotta think-

Joe Rogan 50:12 Well, Nas is really rich. Like he's got a bunch of different businesses.

Danny Brown 50:16 It wasn't always like that though.

Joe Rogan 50:17 No, but I'm saying, like, right now, if he's doing rap right now, it's 'cause he wants to do it for fun.

Danny Brown 50:22 Yes, but it wasn't always like that.

Joe Rogan 50:23 Right. Of course.

Danny Brown 50:23 He had the whole situation of what he went through-

Joe Rogan 50:26 Oh, yeah.

Danny Brown 50:26 ... with his divorces and all. But I'm saying-

Joe Rogan 50:28 Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was all public.

Danny Brown 50:29 Yes. It was-

Joe Rogan 50:29 He's the, the best lyricist ever, in my opinion. He's ... His fucking shit is so complicated, the way he does things back ... What's that one song where he does backwards?

Danny Brown 50:38 Rewind.

Joe Rogan 50:40 The rewind. That's a brilliant song.

Danny Brown 50:41 Yeah. You went ahead and told ... Bro, we don't wanna talk about this.

Joe Rogan 50:43 Why?

Danny Brown 50:44 Just for me. So now you're mad.

Joe Rogan 50:45 Nas is like ...

Danny Brown 50:47 And I've had the opportunity to meet Nas a lot. Like I'm, I wouldn't say a lot, but he knows what he means to me. You get what I'm saying?

Joe Rogan 50:57 Yes.

Danny Brown 50:57 So actually it's, um, he wanted to sign me to his label. I didn't sign to 'em because, I mean, whatever. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 51:09 (laughs)

Danny Brown 51:10 I mean, money, man.

Joe Rogan 51:11 Yeah. I get it.

Danny Brown 51:11 Money, money, man. The, the, the other contract was more money, man.

Joe Rogan 51:15 Yeah. I get it.

Danny Brown 51:15 And that's what it is. But sometimes I think about that, did I make a mistake? But like, damn. Just because the artist that I looked up to my entire life that made me be a rapper tried to sign me, and I didn't sign with him, all because of money.

Joe Rogan 51:30 Hm.

Danny Brown 51:31 And now, like even ... We ... No, I'm not saying that I feel any way about being with Warp. Like I love Warp. Warp is ... You know, they've done ... Part two Warp has made me a better artist than what I actually am.

Joe Rogan 51:45 How's that?

Danny Brown 51:46 Because like, okay, this is even now. Like the album that I just ... I made a album, um, during COVID obviously. We were sitting around when nobody could do nothing and I just felt like, "Oh, shit, I aint-" So I just started going to the studio and just started recording songs, making music. Record a album, and this is the album that we're gonna release. But the album been done for like three years. Like, you know? And so-

Joe Rogan 52:14 Well, what's been the holdup?

Danny Brown 52:18 You don't know? So it's o- on them? That's what happens when you sign to record labels.

Joe Rogan 52:23 Oh, Jesus.

Danny Brown 52:23 Bro, you wanna hear ... Bro. All right. You wanna hear? All right. Let me give you my rundown story. I might need another drink.

Joe Rogan 52:29 Three years?

Danny Brown 52:30 I might need another drink.

Joe Rogan 52:31 I think you need another drink.

Danny Brown 52:33 (laughs) I might need another drink. Yeah. All right. So check this out. Danny Brown, being a regular rapper from Detroit, whatever, fuck. All right. Whatever.

Joe Rogan 52:42 Cheers, sir.

Danny Brown 52:43 Thank you.

Joe Rogan 52:44 Cheers. (glasses clinking)

Danny Brown 52:45 I'm not even going to go into Tony Yayo and G-Unit, all that weird shit. Just get to the point of ... So, um, I remember being ... It's a, um, festival in New York at the time. Was called CMJ Festival, which was like cool. It was like, you know, same thing as South by Southwest, but it's in Texas. That's what it was for, um, New York. And they had this festival, CMJ Festival. And at one of these shows they had, um, at Brooklyn Bowl, Fools Gold Records threw a show and Kanye showed up and it shut the whole shit down. Like ... And I couldn't go. I, I couldn't get in. I was like ... And to me I was like, "Man, Fools Gold Records, like, man. They like the illest shit." Like, if I could ever be cool with Fools Gold Records, like, ugh, whatever I can do to be down with Fools Gold Records, I would do. You know what I'm saying type shit?

Joe Rogan 53:38 Yeah.

Danny Brown 53:39 So then shit goes on just. I end up getting a situation. I started talking to Fools Gold and, um, I don't think they were really into signing me at the time, but Q-Tip from A Tribe Called Quest was real close with A-Trak, who's one of the owners of, uh, Fools Gold. And, um, they hung out and, um, A-Trak was like, "Man, we thinking about signing Danny Brown." And Q-Tip was like, "Nigga thinking?"

Joe Rogan 54:11 (laughs)

Danny Brown 54:13 "Are you retarded? Like, this is one of the illest-" You know? He broke it down to him like, "What makes me so ill?" Which I can, we can talk after.

Joe Rogan 54:21 That, that has to be nice.

Danny Brown 54:22 No, I'm literally like super ill. Like when it comes to like rap, like, it's like cheating. Like I'm like steroid. Like it's super.

Joe Rogan 54:30 (laughs)

Danny Brown 54:30 Like I can cheat. Like it's super ill. So, so then, so then he was like, "Fuck it. Yeah. I'm gonna sign him 'cause ..." So then I already knew I was gonna get signed to Fools Gold. We already had this to each other. So it's no negotiation on what the shit was. So I was going to interviews already. Like I would do interview and they'd be like, "What's gonna happen?" And I'd be like, "Oh, I'm signed to Fools Gold." So, boom. To say that we, we signed a contract. I signed for $5,000. Literally $5,000. And it was South by Southwest happening the next week.And I had like two shows at SXSW. So, I literally spent the entire signing bonus at South by Southwest the next week. So, I had no money. Super broke, whatever the fuck. I'm living off my girl. You get what I'm saying? Like, her banking on me making it as a rapper kinda situation. You hear what I'm saying?

Joe Rogan 55:26 Yeah.

Danny Brown 55:27 So, we do whatever we do. We get that, but then the album comes out and, at the time, no one really thought about the album. I w- I would think no one ... I did. But, at that time, no one thought this album would be, like, a, a big deal. Ended up, the album come out, it won fucking Album of the Year in Spin Magazine. It ended up being one of the best albums I ever had in my career, like ... But when you think about it, it's like a person's back against the wall. When you listen to the album, my back against the wall.

Joe Rogan 56:00 Right.

Danny Brown 56:00 It's just ... And the whole concept of the album is, um, you know, rap music is all about being young, 20 year olds. The whole album... The album is called 30. This is an album about a 30-year-old rapper just now starting to get a break, and how he feels, you know?

Joe Rogan 56:19 Yeah.

Danny Brown 56:20 So, yeah. And the album did good. It did good. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 56:24 Congratulations.

Danny Brown 56:26 It did good. It did good. I'm saying that like sales-wise or anything like that, but culturally.

Joe Rogan 56:31 Mm-hmm.

Danny Brown 56:32 It did good and-

Joe Rogan 56:33 It got recognition.

Danny Brown 56:34 So, I was able to get a lot of shit from that. And, you know, I got a lot of deals and signed a lot of shit and then, then my next album after that was Old. It's called Old and, but that charted at Billboard, but it was a lot of money, like, I spent, like it was a lot of money spent in that. I say that to say this, okay. As me, as a kid from Detroit, got good at rap. All right, I know how to rap. A record label signs me. I rap for this record label, make an album. In my head, as when you start to make music, you want to be as experimental and to be you as much as point, you don't understand there's the thing called music business. So, you're not thinking about business.

Joe Rogan 57:25 You're just thinking about art.

Danny Brown 57:26 I'm just trying to make the best ... Me, Illmatic was the greatest album I ever heard in my life. So, to me it's like Illmatic, and other one is Cannibal Ox, Cold Vein. Like, so to me, it's like, I'm trying to make albums to mirror those. I'm just trying to, like, as me as a rapper, or as an artist or a musician, just trying to, like ... Shit that I was influenced by, like, trying to make a piece of art that could stand next to that. You get what I'm saying? But-

Joe Rogan 57:55 Yeah.

Danny Brown 57:55 ... at this point in life, nah, that shit don't matter no more 'cause it's too much money to be made behind this shit. You get what I'm saying? So, I didn't care about that shit. And then, uh ...

Joe Rogan 58:08 So, do you think that by trying to make something that stands next to that, somehow or another, you'll lose money?

Danny Brown 58:16 Definitely.

Joe Rogan 58:17 How come?

Danny Brown 58:18 Because time change.

Joe Rogan 58:20 Time changes how?

Danny Brown 58:21 The shit that we liked in 1994, we don't like it in 2004.

Joe Rogan 58:24 I still do. I think there's a lot of people who still do.

Danny Brown 58:27 Yeah. We do, but we gotta think about the kids.

Joe Rogan 58:29 Dude, I still listen to Kool G Rap.

Danny Brown 58:31 Have you listened to Playboi Carti?

Joe Rogan 58:33 No.

Danny Brown 58:34 See?

Joe Rogan 58:35 Well, I don't listen to anything.

Danny Brown 58:36 Playboi Carti-

Joe Rogan 58:37 I can't know everything. I don't have enough time.

Danny Brown 58:39 Playboi Carti, bro, Playboi Carti can shut down this whole shit. (laughs) I'm being honest with you.

Joe Rogan 58:45 (laughs) Can we play some of it? Can we play some of it? We can play some of it, right?

Danny Brown 58:48 You probably-

Joe Rogan 58:49 What, which, uh ...

Danny Brown 58:50 No.

Joe Rogan 58:51 No?

Danny Brown 58:51 No, just because-

Joe Rogan 58:52 Why?

Danny Brown 58:53 Just something. See, look, I'm gonna be a hater now by saying no, but no, no, no, we not gonna play no Playboi-

Joe Rogan 59:01 Why?

Danny Brown 59:01 'Cause this is my Joe Rogan interview.

Joe Rogan 59:04 Okay.

Danny Brown 59:05 Let 'em know about the fucking kid, Playboi-

Joe Rogan 59:07 It's not gonna hurt. It's not gonna hurt you if he gets a little love.

Danny Brown 59:11 All right.

Joe Rogan 59:11 You just gave him some.

Danny Brown 59:12 Playboi Carti does not need no love.

Joe Rogan 59:15 I'll, uh, I'll tell you, uh, we'll, we'll play that, we'll play a little of that just to educate me and educate the people that are listening.

Danny Brown 59:20 Oh.

Joe Rogan 59:21 And then we'll play-

Danny Brown 59:21 Play Playboi Carti?

Joe Rogan 59:22 Give me a Danny Brown track.

Danny Brown 59:23 Look, no.

Joe Rogan 59:23 Give, give me a Danny Brown track that you like.

Danny Brown 59:25 I definitely don't want to hear you man after this. Play Playboi Carti-

Joe Rogan 59:29 No? Why?

Danny Brown 59:29 ... Stop Breathing. Bro, you don't get it.

Joe Rogan 59:31 I don't get it. Help me out.

Danny Brown 59:33 My music is like stand-up comedy in that sense. Oh, you wanna hear some of my, um, stand-up comedy rap?

Joe Rogan 59:41 Sure, I'd love to.

Danny Brown 59:41 We'll do that. We'll do that. Won't have to, uh, "Bitch, only thing you gotta know, my dick touch the ground when I'm sitting on the floor." See, that's the thing-

Joe Rogan 59:50 (laughs)

Danny Brown 59:50 ... about rap, like, um, you know me, I was into comedy and so I took my whole shit from comedy to where I would rap. So, what I would do, I would just sit around and write punchlines all the time. So, I write punchlines. So, think about this. Look, I'm about to give y'all niggas the game. So, it's 16 bars a verse. It's four punch ... It's four lines for a verse. So, let's just say if I sit around and listen to a Joe Rogan episode, someone says a ill punchline on air, Uncle Joey, he might say some crazy shit, like, "Ugh." You get what I'm saying? Just some-

Joe Rogan 1:00:26 Yeah.

Danny Brown 1:00:26 ... crazy shit. A line, just one line. I can take that one line. It's four, it's 16 bars. So, one line could create four bars. So, every line I get four bars. So, I need four lines to give me a 16.

Joe Rogan 1:00:42 Hm.

Danny Brown 1:00:43 Yeah. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:00:44 Oh, no.

Danny Brown 1:00:44 No, the first time I ever did coke was Coachella. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:00:48 How long ago?

Danny Brown 1:00:49 Uh, boy, Coachella was just ... I mean, it had to be a long ass Coachella ago. What was ...

Joe Rogan 1:00:53 (laughs)

Danny Brown 1:00:53 And guess what? It wasn't by ... I didn't ask for it. It was, what happened was, okay-

Joe Rogan 1:00:58 What happened? (laughs)

Danny Brown 1:00:58 At this time, listen, at this time I was dating a girl and she was bi, so she wanted to have a girlfriend.She's like, "Pick my girlfriend," type shit. So I found her girlfriend, and I found her and, and it was the type of bitch, they loved each other. They kicked it with each other, they did... They went on fucking vacations and all type of shit. They did all type of shit together. And then I'm playing Coachella, and it's a good time and no bitch, but the bitch that's my girl partner is at Coachella.

Joe Rogan 1:01:34 Oh, no.

Danny Brown 1:01:35 I didn't know that. My girl hit me up like, "Oh, she in the crowd," boom, boom. Me being a real nigga, after I do my set, I was like, "Fuck it," I just bust out, I just bust into the crowd trying to look for her, find her, give me her number. But I'm walking through the crowd like a normal person, I'm like trying to find her. Find her and we kicking it. We went to watch Sufjan Stevens. You know who Sufjan Stevens? Oh, man, so good. Carolyn Loyal. Oh, man, whatever. Uh, whatever. Went to go watch Sufjan Stevens, and I guess because of who I am or what, she just thought I did coke before, but I never did coke. And she just was like, uh. She already had it and just hit me.

Joe Rogan 1:02:20 Wow.

Danny Brown 1:02:21 So just in my nose already like... And she like, "Oh, yeah, bro." I was just like, "Uh?" (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:02:28 How was it?

Danny Brown 1:02:30 It's the best time I ever had in my life. What are you talking about?

Joe Rogan 1:02:33 (laughs) I've never done it. Dude, I avoid coke.

Danny Brown 1:02:38 That's sad.

Joe Rogan 1:02:39 It's not sad.

Danny Brown 1:02:40 It is.

Joe Rogan 1:02:41 Maybe it is sad.

Danny Brown 1:02:41 It is.

Joe Rogan 1:02:42 But it's not sad to me 'cause I've avoided it successfully.

Danny Brown 1:02:45 I mean, you could've done everything you've done already and still experienced that.

Joe Rogan 1:02:50 When I was in high school, uh, I had a very good friend and his cousin sold coke.

Danny Brown 1:02:52 I get it. I get it.

Joe Rogan 1:02:53 His cousin sold coke, and his cousin, like, wrecked his life with coke. I, I watched this dude become a vampire.

Danny Brown 1:02:59 I get it, but you coulda did it and still be who you are right now.

Joe Rogan 1:03:02 Maybe.

Danny Brown 1:03:03 Nothing... Maybe? What you mean? You, you gonna j- get lit and jump with the coke?

Joe Rogan 1:03:07 I don't know if, uh, drugs that make you more confident are good for me. I like drugs that make you less confident.

Danny Brown 1:03:15 That might be some shit.

Joe Rogan 1:03:17 I like drugs that make you feel vulnerable-

Danny Brown 1:03:18 That might be some shit 'cause that's all I like.

Joe Rogan 1:03:20 I like drugs that make you feel vulnerable and, uh, l- like, give you more of a sense of community.

Danny Brown 1:03:26 With the, like, the DMT and the mushrooms?

Joe Rogan 1:03:29 I like mushrooms and I li-... I really like marijuana.

Danny Brown 1:03:30 Even that, I did, I did so many mushr-... I, um... All right. Even this, okay.

Joe Rogan 1:03:36 But you know what I'm saying about drugs that make you confident?

Danny Brown 1:03:39 Yes. Well, I did (laughs) So I did, um, I did the whole pocket, whatever. Hit me up about the, um, mushrooms and, like, whatever. So I bought a quarter pound of mushrooms.

Joe Rogan 1:03:53 Jesus, don't tell the people that. That's a lot.

Danny Brown 1:03:56 I did it in, like, a month.

Joe Rogan 1:03:59 That's a good amount of time. You probably changed a lot at the end of that month.

Danny Brown 1:04:04 It made me worse.

Joe Rogan 1:04:05 Worse? How so?

Danny Brown 1:04:06 'Cause, um, I don't know, it just... Me taking the mushrooms, I mean, I've, I've did it broad, I did a lot. I tried it out because-

Joe Rogan 1:04:16 How did it, but how did it make you worse?

Danny Brown 1:04:17 'Cause I was clean at that time. And you know everybody talk about-

Joe Rogan 1:04:21 Oh.

Danny Brown 1:04:21 ... how mushrooms could keep you from drinking and-

Joe Rogan 1:04:24 Oh.

Danny Brown 1:04:24 When I started doing mushrooms, it, for some reason, it made me, tell me that drinking wasn't bad. I'd, like, "You can drink. You can handle it." Then I started back drinking. Then I started back drinking, then next thing I know, I'm doing coke again, I'm doing... You know what I'm saying? Like-

Joe Rogan 1:04:38 Yeah.

Danny Brown 1:04:39 So I blame it all on the mushrooms.

Joe Rogan 1:04:42 Hm.

Danny Brown 1:04:42 Because I was clean as fuck before I started doing the mushrooms.

Joe Rogan 1:04:45 For how long?

Danny Brown 1:04:46 Months. Like, two months. No, all I'm gonna say is two months is my limit. (laughs) After eight weeks, then, it's fucked up.

Joe Rogan 1:04:55 There's, uh, a thing that doe- that does happen when you do mushrooms. It alleviates some of your anxiety, and maybe some people some-... have some anxiety about addictions. Like that, that they're, maybe they're not over it and they still have anxiety about it, and mushrooms alleviate that anxiety sometimes. But what is an addiction, man? Like, what, what would make you want to drink or make you want to... Like, it's a weird thing that goes on in a person's mind.

Danny Brown 1:05:17 No, an addiction to me... All right, and I can say that for mine. I don't know of any people... Addiction for me is an escape.

Joe Rogan 1:05:24 Yeah.

Danny Brown 1:05:25 I've been through so much in my life and even this and that. Like, even now, like, my fucking aunt passed and, and it's... It is what it is. Like, man, I wanna say, man, like, that's what I try to tell you about me and my music career, because it's like, my family, they look at me like I'm the richest motherfucker in the world. And if I can tell them that... No. Have you ever heard a Danny Brown song on the radio? (laughs) Have you ever seen, uh... No. But to them, you gotta think, Detroit. Just the fact that I've made it in music and I'm someone, this and that, I should be a-... I-... And I don't. I don't have it. Like, I can be the first person to tell you, like, music put me more into debt than if I didn't do it. Do you get what I'm saying?

Joe Rogan 1:06:21 Yes.

Danny Brown 1:06:21 Like, so my first, um, album that I had... Well, I'm not saying my first album, but with Triple X. With Triple X, did good and it gave all these people, ba-boom, Desire, uh, they good. And then I did O, O did good, did that, ba-mum-um. It charted, Billboard, boom, boom, boom. So now, I was a free agent at that point. So now I had these record labels, all of them courting me, boom, boom. I signed to Warp. Warp gives me a fucking damn near quarter million dollar fucking budget to make a album. What you think I did? (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:06:58 Spent it all?

Danny Brown 1:06:59 Spent every last of it.

Joe Rogan 1:07:01 (laughs)

Danny Brown 1:07:01 Nigga, before you know it, they guys asking for more money.

Joe Rogan 1:07:05 (laughs)

Danny Brown 1:07:05 So I went crazy, made a fucking quarter mi-...... whatever the fuck. Spent all the money I could possibly spend on this fucking album to make the best pop album that I make. And now this album has been made, I'm not... I don't feel bad about it. Have you looked?

Joe Rogan 1:07:25 That's great.

Danny Brown 1:07:26 When you, when you get a spare time to yourself, Joe Rogan-

Joe Rogan 1:07:28 Fuck, yeah.

Danny Brown 1:07:30 Atrocity Exhibition. It's, um-

Joe Rogan 1:07:32 Can I play it right now?

Danny Brown 1:07:35 No, that's the be- um, um, Jonah Hill, he shot one of the videos.

Joe Rogan 1:07:41 Oh, he made a music video for it?

Danny Brown 1:07:42 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:07:43 Really?

Danny Brown 1:07:43 Jonah Hill, yeah. He shot the, um, video for the, the second single, Ain't It Funny. I