Joe Rogan Experience #1903 - Kurt Metzger

1. 0:00 – 15:00

   (drum roll) Joe Rogan podcast,…

   1. NANarrator0:00

      (drum roll) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out.

   2. NANarrator0:04

      The Joe Rogan Experience.

   3. JRJoe Rogan0:06

      (instrumental music plays) Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. Let's go.

   4. KMKurt Metzger0:15

      Boy, you, you're going deep, fella.

   5. JRJoe Rogan0:17

      I mean, that's why Elon Musk is a success.

   6. KMKurt Metzger0:20

      Why?

   7. JRJoe Rogan0:20

      'Cause he smoked weed on this show.

   8. KMKurt Metzger0:22

      I don't think that's true. (laughs)

   9. JRJoe Rogan0:24

      (laughs)

   10. KMKurt Metzger0:27

       (laughs) That's what I...

   11. JRJoe Rogan0:27

       (laughs)

   12. KMKurt Metzger0:27

       (laughs) That's like when high school kids, like-

   13. JRJoe Rogan0:28

       That guy's got a lot of money, and I saw him smoke weed on this show.

   14. KMKurt Metzger0:30

       That's what happened, bro.

   15. JRJoe Rogan0:32

       (laughs)

   16. KMKurt Metzger0:32

       (laughs)

   17. NANarrator0:32

       (laughs)

   18. KMKurt Metzger0:32

       That was the root of it. I almost got him fucking f- like, removed from NASA top clearance inadvertently.

   19. JRJoe Rogan0:39

       I- That's crazy, dude, that you would have to... Well, it's crazy how, yeah-

   20. KMKurt Metzger0:43

       Meanwhile, we were drinking whiskey for like two hours before we hit that-

   21. JRJoe Rogan0:46

       I know.

   22. KMKurt Metzger0:47

       ... blunt.

   23. JRJoe Rogan0:47

       That's wild how slow that aspect, 'cause weed's so legal in so many places-

   24. KMKurt Metzger0:51

       Yeah.

   25. JRJoe Rogan0:51

       ... you forget that it's not legal still.

   26. KMKurt Metzger0:53

       Well, it was legal in California. That's what he asked me. He goes, "It is legal?" I go, "Yeah, it's legal here."

   27. JRJoe Rogan0:58

       Yeah, but it's not... There's, there's California law, and then-

   28. KMKurt Metzger1:01

       Yeah.

   29. JRJoe Rogan1:01

       ... there's, uh-

   30. KMKurt Metzger1:02

       State law.
2. 15:00 – 30:00

   Yeah. …

   1. KMKurt Metzger15:00

      is, like, if you went, like, straight, like, you were, you were fucked up and you went straight to a rehab center.

   2. JRJoe Rogan15:05

      Yeah.

   3. KMKurt Metzger15:05

      Like, would they wean you off of it? Or would they give you-

   4. JRJoe Rogan15:09

      They give you Suboxone.

   5. KMKurt Metzger15:09

      ... they give you Suboxone?

   6. JRJoe Rogan15:10

      Yeah.

   7. KMKurt Metzger15:10

      And what is that, that stuff? I've heard people talk about that.

   8. JRJoe Rogan15:13

      It's like a film. It's a little orange film. And, and, uh, it... But you have to be... Oh, what's his name? Um, I'm blanking on his name. Uh, uh... (laughs) He took it, he, uh... Who? You're friends with him, he's got a beard and he's a, oh, psychedelic, uh, cal- what's his name? I'm, I'm totally blanking.

   9. KMKurt Metzger15:30

      Duncan?

   10. JRJoe Rogan15:31

       Duncan.

   11. KMKurt Metzger15:32

       (laughs)

   12. JRJoe Rogan15:32

       Jesus.

   13. KMKurt Metzger15:33

       Beard, psychedelic. I was like...

   14. JRJoe Rogan15:34

       I'm like, yeah. I was really reaching-

   15. KMKurt Metzger15:36

       That's that, that's that real weed, that's what that is.

   16. JRJoe Rogan15:38

       Is it indica?

   17. KMKurt Metzger15:38

       That's real shit. No.

   18. JRJoe Rogan15:40

       Go, thank God.

   19. KMKurt Metzger15:40

       Jesus. What'd you think, some kind of establishment?

   20. JRJoe Rogan15:41

       I go only, like, productivity weed.

   21. KMKurt Metzger15:43

       Yeah.

   22. JRJoe Rogan15:43

       But he, uh-

   23. KMKurt Metzger15:44

       I don't know if that's real, by the way.

   24. JRJoe Rogan15:45

       Ari told me a story about him where he was somewhere and he was taking, uh, he took some Suboxone after he had done, you know, Oxy or something-

   25. KMKurt Metzger15:53

       Mm-hmm.

   26. JRJoe Rogan15:54

       ... and he got real sick and didn't know what... So the stuff knocks it out of your system immediately with the naloxone or something when you take it.

   27. KMKurt Metzger16:00

       Huh.

   28. JRJoe Rogan16:00

       So you're supposed to be in withdrawal before you take it. So you have to wait until you're sick.

   29. KMKurt Metzger16:05

       Oh, wow.

   30. JRJoe Rogan16:06

       You know, and when you really feel sick, and then you can take it. 'Cause if you don't wait and you still have that stuff in your system, (laughs) it kicks you into withdrawal immediately.
3. 30:00 – 45:00

   So if they pull…

   1. JRJoe Rogan30:00

      yeah, right. I think that's everywhere.

   2. KMKurt Metzger30:00

      So if they pull you over-

   3. JRJoe Rogan30:01

      Yeah.

   4. KMKurt Metzger30:02

      ... and you, you're going to buy a car-

   5. JRJoe Rogan30:03

      Yeah, right.

   6. KMKurt Metzger30:04

      ... and you have $10,000 in cash on you.

   7. JRJoe Rogan30:05

      Yeah.

   8. KMKurt Metzger30:05

      "Fuck you, give me that." And then they spend it.

   9. JRJoe Rogan30:09

      Yeah, right.

   10. KMKurt Metzger30:09

       They, they use it for, like, all these police funds and all these different things.

   11. JRJoe Rogan30:12

       Yeah, right.

   12. KMKurt Metzger30:13

       They, they, you know, spruce up the station, "Got ourselves a nice TV, boys."

   13. JRJoe Rogan30:16

       Yeah.

   14. KMKurt Metzger30:16

       And they don't have to give it back for a long time. Like, they go to... You have to go to court for it.

   15. JRJoe Rogan30:20

       Yeah, right. There's a ton of them.

   16. KMKurt Metzger30:21

       To prove-

   17. JRJoe Rogan30:22

       Wait, what's it called? There's a term for it.

   18. KMKurt Metzger30:24

       I don't know, we're friend-

   19. NANarrator30:25

       Seizure, uh-

   20. JRJoe Rogan30:26

       A c-... Asset seizure or something?

   21. KMKurt Metzger30:28

       Asset seizure.

   22. NANarrator30:28

       Yeah.

   23. JRJoe Rogan30:29

       Yeah.

   24. KMKurt Metzger30:29

       So, like, if you're going to buy, like, a fucking '69 Camaro-

   25. JRJoe Rogan30:33

       Yeah.

   26. KMKurt Metzger30:33

       ... and you got 60 grand.

   27. JRJoe Rogan30:35

       Yeah.

   28. KMKurt Metzger30:35

       And you're like, "Why do you have 60 grand?" "You don't have 60 grand. We have 60 grand. You have a fucking court case."

   29. JRJoe Rogan30:40

       Yeah, that's a lot of money in cash.

   30. KMKurt Metzger30:41

       Yeah. Fuck outta here.
4. 45:00 – 1:00:00

   It's in like- was…

   1. JRJoe Rogan45:00

   2. KMKurt Metzger45:00

      It's in like- was it in like Upstate New York? I found out about this from this dude who gave me, uh, the book Best Evidence by David Lifton. He was like a- a guitarist in a band. That's it. That's the UFO-inspired Upstate New York house. Look at his fucking house. So-

   3. JRJoe Rogan45:15

      Wait, that's not that big a house.

   4. KMKurt Metzger45:17

      Well, i- it wasn't that big a house, 'cause he wanted to make it like the fucking UFO. So what it was, was, um-

   5. JRJoe Rogan45:22

      Oh, I see.

   6. NANarrator45:23

      I think it's- I think it's- I think it's multiple properties.

   7. KMKurt Metzger45:24

      Oh, I see.

   8. JRJoe Rogan45:25

      So he just started-

   9. KMKurt Metzger45:26

      But one of them looked like a UFO.

   10. JRJoe Rogan45:27

       ... making UFO houses.

   11. KMKurt Metzger45:27

       He- apparently, this is the- the rumor. What the rumor was, was that Jackie Gleason got drunk with, uh, Nixon.

   12. JRJoe Rogan45:35

       Mm-hmm.

   13. KMKurt Metzger45:35

       And Nixon's like, "You wanna see a fucking flying saucer?"

   14. JRJoe Rogan45:37

       Yeah.

   15. KMKurt Metzger45:37

       He's like, "Yes." And then they flew to Wright-Patterson Air Force Base, I believe-

   16. JRJoe Rogan45:42

       Right.

   17. KMKurt Metzger45:42

       ... was the rumor, and they showed him like, "We have actually recovered-"

   18. JRJoe Rogan45:44

       Like they had freezers of- of them, right? They had 'em in freezers.

   19. KMKurt Metzger45:47

       I don't know if that's real.

   20. JRJoe Rogan45:48

       Uh ...

   21. KMKurt Metzger45:48

       I- I've never heard anybody say that they saw a body and have it be like 100% credible.

   22. JRJoe Rogan45:55

       Mm-hmm.

   23. KMKurt Metzger45:55

       Other than maybe that Travis Walton guy who claims to have been abducted in the 1970s.

   24. JRJoe Rogan46:00

       Yeah.

   25. KMKurt Metzger46:00

       He's ano- another one of those guys. Like wh- if he's telling the truth. Okay, "There were a number of labs we passed through before entering a section. Nixon pointed out what he said was the wreckage of a flying saucer-"

   26. JRJoe Rogan46:10

       Yeah.

   27. KMKurt Metzger46:10

       "... enclosed in several large cases. Next, we went into an inner chamber. There were six or eight what looked like glass-topped Coke freezers inside them with the mangled remains of what I took to be children." Oh, that's right.

   28. JRJoe Rogan46:21

       Yeah, that's the thing I remember from this story.

   29. KMKurt Metzger46:23

       So I- I'm- I'm conflating this with something else. So that's right. They did have fucking supposedly dead frozen ones. "The revelation of the US secretary holding the corpses of dead aliens shook Gleason to the core, and he couldn't eat or sleep for weeks. After being confronted by his wife, Beverly, Gleason told her the truth about that night and swore her to secrecy, but Jackie and Beverly Gleason were already in the process of separating. The final straw in the relationship would be Beverly breaking her vow and revealing the encounter to the magazine Esquire in 1974 as a teaser for a book she was writing about her relationship with the tempestuous, hard-drinking Jackie." Oh, the wife sold him down the river.

   30. JRJoe Rogan47:05

       I wonder what that article ... So that article was this- where this story first came out?
5. 1:00:00 – 1:07:22

   And it's also like…

   1. KMKurt Metzger1:00:00

      is lost. Everything's lost. Like-

   2. JRJoe Rogan1:00:03

      And it's also like an inform-... You know, when they talk about people wanna take your information. Th- I didn't really understand. It doesn't just mean, like, a corporation. I mean just all kinds of people looking to see if they can find something that they could, like, make a name for talking about that you tweeted.

   3. KMKurt Metzger1:00:18

      Oh yeah, for sure.

   4. JRJoe Rogan1:00:18

      So there's alwa- also that. And it, there's a-

   5. KMKurt Metzger1:00:20

      Well, that's a whole ecosystem now, calling people out for things. It's an eco-

   6. JRJoe Rogan1:00:24

      Yeah.

   7. KMKurt Metzger1:00:24

      It's an ecosystem. There's people that only do that.

   8. JRJoe Rogan1:00:26

      There's a whole business being destroyed right now. (laughs)

   9. KMKurt Metzger1:00:28

      Yeah. Well, the... But there's people that that's all they do. Like, all the... You want some more of this?

   10. JRJoe Rogan1:00:32

       Yeah.

   11. KMKurt Metzger1:00:32

       That's all they do is call people out. That's, like, th- that's their only contribution.

   12. JRJoe Rogan1:00:37

       Well-

   13. KMKurt Metzger1:00:37

       You know, which is great if you're-

   14. JRJoe Rogan1:00:38

       I can't believe how much that became the real news.

   15. KMKurt Metzger1:00:41

       Yeah.

   16. JRJoe Rogan1:00:41

       Because they don't pay for p-... They don't wanna pay to do, you know, journalism, so they just... All the people that just got their start doing that moved up through the ranks into real news.

   17. KMKurt Metzger1:00:49

       Yeah. Bizarre. And then it functions like real news. That's how real news functions. And also, you know, when the rise of these independent things like Jimmy's Show and, uh, Crystal and Kyle and Saagar, you know, these people who are trustworthy. Like, you could, you could count on them to give you information. They have opinions and perspective and they might have their own biases, but they're not liars. And th- they don't own... They're not owned by-

   18. JRJoe Rogan1:01:17

       Well, a lot of them, a lot of them do get money f-... You'd be sur-... (laughs) It's been very surprising who gets money from what since I've been, uh, at Jameson.

   19. KMKurt Metzger1:01:24

       I don't think any of those guys do. The guys that I just mentioned.

   20. JRJoe Rogan1:01:26

       Well-

   21. KMKurt Metzger1:01:27

       Jimmy doesn't.

   22. JRJoe Rogan1:01:28

       All the Ukraine stuff, especially... Th- here's what's really, really creepy to me, is, uh, they all... It's all, like, slow to mention how fucked up the Ukraine situation is. And the o- the other really eerie thing is-... I remember this before I did anything with Jimmy's show, like in 2018, they were constantly reporting on, like, Ukraine's got a Nazi problem. That was a huge- (laughs)

   23. KMKurt Metzger1:01:50

       (laughs)

   24. JRJoe Rogan1:01:50

       ... on all the major things, they would say-

   25. KMKurt Metzger1:01:52

       And corruption. Deep, deep corruption.

   26. JRJoe Rogan1:01:55

       Yeah. And so now, if you look in New York Times, we, he showed it, the celebrated Azov battalion. They've even dropped saying the Nazi part.

   27. KMKurt Metzger1:02:04

       Whoa.

   28. JRJoe Rogan1:02:04

       Did you see the thing of Jon Stewart-

   29. KMKurt Metzger1:02:06

       No.

   30. JRJoe Rogan1:02:06

       ... hanging the medal on the Nazi's neck at Disney World with a Mickey Mouse behind him?

Episode duration: 3:38:24