Joe Rogan Experience #1909 - Stavros Halkias

1. 0:00 – 15:00

   (drumming music) Joe Rogan podcast,…

   1. NANarrator0:00

      (drumming music) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out. The Joe Rogan Experience.

   2. JRJoe Rogan0:06

      Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. (rock music) It's kind of a weird thing that we're here, in Austin, you know?

   3. SHStavros Halkias0:16

      Yeah.

   4. JRJoe Rogan0:16

      It's weird here.

   5. SHStavros Halkias0:17

      Yeah, 'cause LA it's like famous people are everywhere.

   6. JRJoe Rogan0:19

      They're everywhere.

   7. SHStavros Halkias0:20

      They know how to act. People know how to act. Here, it's just starting a little bit.

   8. JRJoe Rogan0:23

      This is like Matthew McConaughey-

   9. SHStavros Halkias0:25

      (laughs) Yeah.

   10. JRJoe Rogan0:26

       Elon, but Elon never goes anywhere.

   11. SHStavros Halkias0:28

       Yeah.

   12. JRJoe Rogan0:28

       'Cause he's always working on five different companies.

   13. SHStavros Halkias0:30

       Right. Who else? Who else is in Austin?

   14. JRJoe Rogan0:33

       Uh, Zach Levy, but he's, uh, he lives out, a little bit further out in the country.

   15. SHStavros Halkias0:39

       Yeah, just McConaughey.

   16. NANarrator0:40

       Dawson moved here, James Van Der Beek.

   17. SHStavros Halkias0:42

       Ooh.

   18. JRJoe Rogan0:42

       Oh.

   19. SHStavros Halkias0:43

       There you go.

   20. JRJoe Rogan0:43

       That's right, he's here.

   21. SHStavros Halkias0:44

       (laughs)

   22. JRJoe Rogan0:44

       And then the other, uh, there's a few guys.

   23. SHStavros Halkias0:47

       Well, it's also I think-

   24. NANarrator0:48

       Sandra Bullock.

   25. SHStavros Halkias0:48

       ... podcast fame-

   26. JRJoe Rogan0:49

       Sandra Bullock, but she's never here either. She's always working.

   27. SHStavros Halkias0:51

       Yeah. 'Cause I think podcast fame and internet fame, it's like people... You're much more approachable too.

   28. JRJoe Rogan0:55

       Yeah.

   29. SHStavros Halkias0:56

       You know? 'Cause it's like you're in their ears, they-

   30. JRJoe Rogan0:58

       Well, they 100% know you.
2. 15:00 – 30:00

   180 centimeters. How tall…

   1. SHStavros Halkias15:00

      talking.

   2. NANarrator15:00

      180 centimeters. How tall is that?

   3. SHStavros Halkias15:02

      Uh, now we're... I don't fucking know.

   4. JRJoe Rogan15:03

      Oh.

   5. SHStavros Halkias15:03

      I should know that.

   6. NANarrator15:04

      182.

   7. JRJoe Rogan15:05

      Let's guess.

   8. SHStavros Halkias15:05

      Great. Um, I'm gonna say-

   9. JRJoe Rogan15:07

      682.

   10. SHStavros Halkias15:07

       5'11". Let's see. 597. (laughs)

   11. NANarrator15:12

       Does it count as six foot?

   12. JRJoe Rogan15:13

       6 foot?

   13. NANarrator15:13

       No, it's right about six foot, yeah.

   14. JRJoe Rogan15:14

       Oh, she's six foot. All right.

   15. NANarrator15:16

       There we go. 11.6.

   16. SHStavros Halkias15:16

       It's a big lady. Big lady. But-

   17. JRJoe Rogan15:18

       A big stout lady.

   18. SHStavros Halkias15:19

       Um, the... So the running back, I'm blanking on his name. But literally they were, the trainers were... He was like, "Hey, should I lift weights like the defensive, you know, like the, the linemen?" And they were like, "No, that'll slow you down." Like, they literally had no one... This is in the '70s, the NFL. Like, those are professional-

   19. JRJoe Rogan15:36

       That was with boxing, too.

   20. SHStavros Halkias15:36

       It's crazy, dude.

   21. JRJoe Rogan15:37

       In the boxing era, like of, like, Marvin Hagler and Sugar Ray Leonard, it was, like, commonly thought that if you lifted weights, it would slow you down.

   22. SHStavros Halkias15:47

       Yeah. Yeah.

   23. JRJoe Rogan15:47

       And it would, it would, uh, ruin your, your punching power. Like, they would only do calisthenics.

   24. SHStavros Halkias15:51

       Insane.

   25. JRJoe Rogan15:51

       Like, Marvin Hagler did just sit-ups and pushups and stuff like that.

   26. SHStavros Halkias15:54

       Just, you'd have to be a freak of nature to make it, which is even more impressive.

   27. JRJoe Rogan15:58

       Not necessarily, because-

   28. SHStavros Halkias15:59

       You don't think so?

   29. JRJoe Rogan16:00

       No, because there's a lot of exercise. There's a lot of thought to, like, just getting very efficient at the technique when it comes to fighting.

   30. SHStavros Halkias16:09

       Hmm.
3. 30:00 – 45:00

   (laughs) …

   1. SHStavros Halkias30:00

      every like... Why do you think every, like, uh, every like religion has a little hat that covers the bald spot?

   2. NANarrator30:06

      (laughs)

   3. SHStavros Halkias30:06

      'Cause some fucking guy four thous- I think yarmulkes-

   4. JRJoe Rogan30:09

      Yes.

   5. SHStavros Halkias30:10

      ... 100%.

   6. JRJoe Rogan30:11

      100%.

   7. SHStavros Halkias30:11

      100% the guy was insecure about his bald spot.

   8. NANarrator30:13

      (laughs)

   9. SHStavros Halkias30:13

      He's like, "God said we actually have to cover this."

   10. JRJoe Rogan30:16

       All of us.

   11. SHStavros Halkias30:16

       Yeah. (laughs)

   12. JRJoe Rogan30:17

       Everyone.

   13. SHStavros Halkias30:17

       Even you with the beautiful hair, Joseph.

   14. JRJoe Rogan30:19

       People with the best fucking hair ever.

   15. SHStavros Halkias30:21

       (laughs)

   16. JRJoe Rogan30:22

       Like, like Jamie from Yellowstone.

   17. SHStavros Halkias30:24

       Yeah, dude.

   18. JRJoe Rogan30:24

       Just thick manes of hair.

   19. SHStavros Halkias30:26

       Yeah. Sorry, bud.

   20. JRJoe Rogan30:27

       Tough shit.

   21. SHStavros Halkias30:27

       Put it in the cap. (laughs)

   22. JRJoe Rogan30:28

       Wear the hat. God wants you to wear a fucking hat.

   23. SHStavros Halkias30:31

       100%.

   24. JRJoe Rogan30:32

       How about the pope gets to wear one like a fish's head?

   25. SHStavros Halkias30:34

       Yeah, dude.

   26. JRJoe Rogan30:34

       What's that one?

   27. SHStavros Halkias30:35

       The co-

   28. JRJoe Rogan30:35

       What the fuck is that one?

   29. SHStavros Halkias30:36

       That one's sick. I don't know what it's called, but-

   30. JRJoe Rogan30:37

       Imagine, like when... You should kinda get suspicious-
4. 45:00 – 1:00:00

   (laughs) …

   1. NANarrator45:00

      which puts, puts Princeton's return next year at roughly 3.77 billion." He continues, "Now what is Princeton's annual operating budget? That would be 1.86 billion. The arithmetic is not hard. 3.7 billion in investment minus 1.86 in operating still leaves you with 1.91 billion." Leading him to conclude what? Quote, "Princeton could let every student in for free. The university administrators could tell the US government and all of its agencies, 'It's cool. We got this.' They could take out the cash registers in their cafeteria. They could hand out free parking to all visitors. They could give away Princeton sweatshirts on Nassau Street. They could fire their entire accounts receivable staff and their entire fronting staff tomorrow." In fact, his team even put together this handy little chart. Princeton has been not just doing this recently, but for nearly two decades. On a year by year basis, their endowment return, just the e- return, nearly exactly equals or surpasses the entire operating budget of the whole school, meaning no student would ever need to be charged tuition again. Or you could imagine a world where students pay much, much less. Also, as you can guess, this is not just the case with Princeton University. It's the case with almost every Ivy League institution in this entire country, whose endowments in some cases surpass, and I'm not kidding, the GDP of small African nations. With this mountain of wealth, don't... Why, why are they not doing what they were supposed to do? They were supposed to spend it on students. Instead, they simply reinvest the returns, build an ever-growing pile of cash, giving fees to money managers, all while continuing to raise tuition precipitously, even when you're all giving them is freaking Zoom school.

   2. SHStavros Halkias46:48

      (laughs)

   3. NANarrator46:48

      Tuition at Princeton right now is $80,000 a year. Let it sink in. That is ten grand more than the average US household income annually. Which brings us to the tax code. And now look.

   4. Do you want to stop there or...

   5. JRJoe Rogan47:02

      Yeah, that's good enough, but Jesus Christ, what a scam.

   6. SHStavros Halkias47:06

      I mean, Ivy Leagues in general, it's like they're, they're like...

   7. JRJoe Rogan47:08

      (exhales)

   8. SHStavros Halkias47:08

      And that's... I mean, I think public ed- I think education should be free. Um, I think it should be, you should be able to go to college for free. I think we should forgive student debt, all that kind of shit. Um, but it is... Ivy Leagues in general, it's like so fucked, 'cause they have the money. The-

   9. JRJoe Rogan47:21

      Well, I think it would be wise if we gave it available to citizens. Like, what, what, what would be the harm in that? They wouldn't work hard to get it because it doesn't cost anything.

   10. SHStavros Halkias47:33

       Well, the har- Yeah.

   11. JRJoe Rogan47:33

       Maybe. Some people. But-

   12. SHStavros Halkias47:35

       No, that's ridiculous.

   13. JRJoe Rogan47:36

       But people need to figure out how it's not about that. Like, you could, you... Just because it's coming to you for free, like, this is a unique opportunity.

   14. SHStavros Halkias47:43

       For sure.

   15. JRJoe Rogan47:43

       You could actually learn something. You can get ahead in this life.

   16. SHStavros Halkias47:46

       Yeah, and I think that's true. I think, yeah, college should be free. I think, like, or you shouldn't have to go to college. You should be able to go to, like, you know, uh, trade schools, all that kind of shit. Community college should be free.

   17. JRJoe Rogan47:54

       But I think you can learn online too. I mean, you could... For... There's a lot of universities, they don't offer degrees, but they offer, like, a lot of their courses online.

   18. SHStavros Halkias48:02

       But that's also another problem with, like, Ivy Leagues and shit. It's like rich people just kind of, like, all their kids go, they can all afford to. I know so many dumbasses from Ivy Leagues, but it's like this fake prestige that it's just like, "No, my family just had enough money to go."

   19. JRJoe Rogan48:17

       Yeah.

   20. SHStavros Halkias48:17

       And I, I've had friends... I grew up in Baltimore, and I've had friends who went to, uh, went to, like, Harvard and shit, and they were like, "It fucking sucked." Like, if you're a poor kid going to Harvard, it's like you feel out of place, you know, everyone... It's all, you know, people... And it's just like a, a, a, a brutal experience. And now, you know, he's, he's does fine. He's, he was smart as shit, he's a doctor, he was a teacher for a while. He's just, like, a good person. But yeah, I mean, I just think Ivy Leagues in general are fuck-... The, the endowments are crazy, and it is like a... I think we are just fucking a generation of kids, especially when you make them feel like they have to go to school.

   21. JRJoe Rogan48:49

       Well, not only that, you expose 'em to primarily to one ideology, and that ideology is the most aggressive, which is like woke politics.

   22. SHStavros Halkias48:58

       (smacks lips) I don't know.

   23. JRJoe Rogan48:58

       So kids get that... Talk to kids that are in college.

   24. SHStavros Halkias49:00

       I-

   25. JRJoe Rogan49:00

       They get it crammed down their throat.

   26. SHStavros Halkias49:02

       I... I mean, I was in... When I was in college, uh ...

   27. JRJoe Rogan49:04

       How long ago was that?

   28. SHStavros Halkias49:05

       I mean, I was te- You got me. 15 years ago (laughs) .

   29. JRJoe Rogan49:06

       Different world, brother. Different world from five years ago. Different world. We used to see some of it, and people would be like, "Why are you complaining about this? You're not in college." I'd be like, 'Cause that's gonna spill out." That kind of crazy thinking, you just abandon that when you get your degree. "Oh, I was talking crazy."

   30. SHStavros Halkias49:20

       Yeah.
5. 1:00:00 – 1:02:32

   How many gods were…

   1. SHStavros Halkias1:00:00

      Like, I'm like-

   2. JRJoe Rogan1:00:00

      How many gods were there?

   3. SHStavros Halkias1:00:01

      The main ones, there was 12 main gods of Mount Olympus, but it was like, there's demigods, and like half... You know, and like s- lesser gods, and there's like hundreds.

   4. JRJoe Rogan1:00:10

      (laughs)

   5. SHStavros Halkias1:00:10

      And it's like... It's this thing of like... That's what I really like is that Greek mythology, it's like, you know, monotheism, it's pretty straightforward. It's kind of boring. You know what I mean? It's like, there's one god. Sometimes, you know, the- there's three of... You know what I mean? The Holy Spirit, the Jesus, all that kind of shit. Uh, but it's like polytheism is fucking sick because it's like there's just a god of fucking getting fucked up.

   6. JRJoe Rogan1:00:32

      (laughs)

   7. SHStavros Halkias1:00:33

      There's, there's just a god that's like Dionysus. He was the god of having a good ass time.

   8. JRJoe Rogan1:00:37

      Wow.

   9. SHStavros Halkias1:00:37

      That guy fucking rules, dude. That was my guy.

   10. JRJoe Rogan1:00:40

       Wow.

   11. SHStavros Halkias1:00:40

       Um, there's a... Yeah, there's like a hunter god. Athena is this interesting, like, she's the goddess of wisdom and she's o-

   12. JRJoe Rogan1:00:46

       Who's the hunter god?

   13. SHStavros Halkias1:00:48

       Um... Fuck, what the fuck? I'm, I'm blanking on her. It's a woman though. Um, uh, but there's like a g-... You know, Ares obviously, or A- Ares, the god of war and like-

   14. JRJoe Rogan1:00:57

       They had a lot of badass female gods.

   15. SHStavros Halkias1:00:59

       Uh, yeah, Athena. Artemis, that's right.

   16. JRJoe Rogan1:01:01

       Artemis.

   17. SHStavros Halkias1:01:01

       Yeah, the goddess of animals and-

   18. JRJoe Rogan1:01:01

       In Greek religion is the goddess of wild animals, the hunt and vegetation, and of a- and of chastity-

   19. SHStavros Halkias1:01:09

       Yeah.

   20. JRJoe Rogan1:01:09

       ... and childbirth. She was identified by the Romans with Diana. Artemis was the daughter of Zeus and Leto, and the twin sister of Apollo.

   21. SHStavros Halkias1:01:18

       Yeah, that's the other thing. Zeus fucked like every goddess and just made other goddesses.

   22. JRJoe Rogan1:01:22

       (laughs)

   23. SHStavros Halkias1:01:22

       And like Athena, his... Just came out of his head. So that's the interesting thing. It's like she was all his... The wisdom of God was just like came out of his head and now it's just all into one lady. It's so fascinating.

   24. JRJoe Rogan1:01:33

       Have you ever heard of a Brian Muraresku-

   25. SHStavros Halkias1:01:36

       Mm-mm.

   26. JRJoe Rogan1:01:36

       ... and the book called The Immortality Key?

   27. SHStavros Halkias1:01:38

       No.

   28. JRJoe Rogan1:01:38

       It's an amazing book. And this guy dedicated like more than a decade of his life to studying ancient Greece and the use of psychedelics and wine.

   29. SHStavros Halkias1:01:48

       Oh, hell yeah.

   30. JRJoe Rogan1:01:49

       And they've studied-

Episode duration: 3:25:55