Joe Rogan Experience #1909 - Stavros Halkias

1. 0:00 – 1:55

   Austin fame vs LA fame and the early days of podcasting

   1. NANarrator0:00

      (drumming music) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out. The Joe Rogan Experience.

   2. JRJoe Rogan0:06

      Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. (rock music) It's kind of a weird thing that we're here, in Austin, you know?

   3. SHStavros Halkias0:16

      Yeah.

   4. JRJoe Rogan0:16

      It's weird here.

   5. SHStavros Halkias0:17

      Yeah, 'cause LA it's like famous people are everywhere.

   6. JRJoe Rogan0:19

      They're everywhere.

   7. SHStavros Halkias0:20

      They know how to act. People know how to act. Here, it's just starting a little bit.

   8. JRJoe Rogan0:23

      This is like Matthew McConaughey-

   9. SHStavros Halkias0:25

      (laughs) Yeah.

   10. JRJoe Rogan0:26

       Elon, but Elon never goes anywhere.

   11. SHStavros Halkias0:28

       Yeah.

   12. JRJoe Rogan0:28

       'Cause he's always working on five different companies.

   13. SHStavros Halkias0:30

       Right. Who else? Who else is in Austin?

   14. JRJoe Rogan0:33

       Uh, Zach Levy, but he's, uh, he lives out, a little bit further out in the country.

   15. SHStavros Halkias0:39

       Yeah, just McConaughey.

   16. NANarrator0:40

       Dawson moved here, James Van Der Beek.

   17. SHStavros Halkias0:42

       Ooh.

   18. JRJoe Rogan0:42

       Oh.

   19. SHStavros Halkias0:43

       There you go.

   20. JRJoe Rogan0:43

       That's right, he's here.

   21. SHStavros Halkias0:44

       (laughs)

   22. JRJoe Rogan0:44

       And then the other, uh, there's a few guys.

   23. SHStavros Halkias0:47

       Well, it's also I think-

   24. NANarrator0:48

       Sandra Bullock.

   25. SHStavros Halkias0:48

       ... podcast fame-

   26. JRJoe Rogan0:49

       Sandra Bullock, but she's never here either. She's always working.

   27. SHStavros Halkias0:51

       Yeah. 'Cause I think podcast fame and internet fame, it's like people... You're much more approachable too.

   28. JRJoe Rogan0:55

       Yeah.

   29. SHStavros Halkias0:56

       You know? 'Cause it's like you're in their ears, they-

   30. JRJoe Rogan0:58

       Well, they 100% know you.
2. 1:55 – 3:17

   Twitter culture shift, algorithms, and why social media is hard to quit

   1. JRJoe Rogan1:55

      "What went wrong?"

   2. SHStavros Halkias1:55

      (laughs)

   3. JRJoe Rogan1:55

      Yeah, it's, it's fucking fascinating to see the difference in tweets now.

   4. SHStavros Halkias2:00

      Mm-hmm.

   5. JRJoe Rogan2:00

      Because people aren't scared to post what they really me- think about something.

   6. SHStavros Halkias2:04

      Yeah, yeah, yeah.

   7. JRJoe Rogan2:04

      So like NBC News will post something and then underneath it you'll just see a cascade of people shitting all over them.

   8. SHStavros Halkias2:10

      Yeah, yeah, yeah.

   9. JRJoe Rogan2:10

      And harshly.

   10. SHStavros Halkias2:12

       Right, right, right.

   11. JRJoe Rogan2:13

       It's, it's wild.

   12. SHStavros Halkias2:13

       They're making death threats (laughs) .

   13. JRJoe Rogan2:14

       No, not that. They're not... (laughs)

   14. SHStavros Halkias2:16

       (laughs) They're like, they're like, "Fuck you, Tucker." (laughs)

   15. JRJoe Rogan2:18

       But they can be funny again and not worry about getting banned.

   16. SHStavros Halkias2:21

       Yeah.

   17. JRJoe Rogan2:21

       Or shadow banned or any of that stuff.

   18. SHStavros Halkias2:23

       Yeah, yeah. No-

   19. JRJoe Rogan2:24

       Yeah.

   20. SHStavros Halkias2:24

       ... I, I barely, I honestly barely use Twitter anymore. It's just like-

   21. JRJoe Rogan2:27

       Me too.

   22. SHStavros Halkias2:28

       ... purely for... All social media honestly I just do to fucking... 'Cause it's comedy and you have to get people out with stuff, but-

   23. JRJoe Rogan2:34

       Right, promotion. Yeah.

   24. SHStavros Halkias2:35

       ... I really don't think people should use that sh... I mean, I'm not breaking any ground here, but it's like-

   25. JRJoe Rogan2:39

       Right.

   26. SHStavros Halkias2:39

       ... I barely, you know?

   27. JRJoe Rogan2:41

       You and I are on the same page.

   28. SHStavros Halkias2:42

       Yeah. It's not... Dude, I put my phone away for like... This summer I went, I went back to Baltimore. Got... I, I lost like 20 pounds with my brother. My brother's a trainer, uh, and I just didn't use my phone. I was fucking eating right. I was working out every day. Fucking I felt great. I was like, "This is awesome. I'm going to go into the next leg of the tour." I'm in New York for like four days and I'm like, "I'm just gonna check Instagram to try and get pussy."

   29. JRJoe Rogan3:03

       (laughs)

   30. SHStavros Halkias3:03

       And I haven't been off it for more than 20 minutes for four months. You know what I mean? It's like... And I was like, I know... You know what you have to do.
3. 3:17 – 9:26

   TikTok personalization and the “muscle-girl” algorithm spiral

   1. JRJoe Rogan3:17

      I don't fuck with TikTok, but apparently that's the worst. I was just gonna say that I was listening to, uh, Chris Williamson. Do you know him?

   2. SHStavros Halkias3:23

      No.

   3. JRJoe Rogan3:24

      He's another guy who's out here in Austin. Great, f- really interesting, intelligent guy. Did... He's, runs a great podcast. But he had Scott Galloway on.

   4. SHStavros Halkias3:31

      Okay.

   5. JRJoe Rogan3:31

      And they were talking about how TikTok is essentially engineered to like keep us engaged-

   6. SHStavros Halkias3:38

      Oh, fully.

   7. JRJoe Rogan3:38

      ... and also accentuate all of our disagreements and arguments.

   8. SHStavros Halkias3:42

      Mm-hmm.

   9. JRJoe Rogan3:42

      And make America look like a, a real shit hole.

   10. SHStavros Halkias3:44

       Intere- I didn't even think about the disagreements and arguments 'cause my feed is like... They've completely got me.

   11. JRJoe Rogan3:49

       Yeah.

   12. SHStavros Halkias3:49

       It's like fucking just a nice sandwich. It's like-

   13. JRJoe Rogan3:52

       (laughs)

   14. SHStavros Halkias3:52

       And I'm, I'm trying to get fucking jacked these days, so it's like just fat guys, like fat guys' weight loss journeys.

   15. JRJoe Rogan3:57

       Yeah.

   16. SHStavros Halkias3:57

       Like they know everything. And then it's like a muscle girl, the... which I'm into now. You know what I mean?

   17. JRJoe Rogan4:02

       You're into muscle girls?

   18. SHStavros Halkias4:02

       They've cr- they've created a new fetish for me just off of fucking... It started with just like instructional stuff, and now it's just like some girl who's just fucking, you know, crushing a watermelon with her thighs-

   19. JRJoe Rogan4:11

       Oh, Jesus.

   20. SHStavros Halkias4:11

       ... and then deadlifting like, you know, 800 pounds, and I'm like-

   21. JRJoe Rogan4:14

       You like those.

   22. SHStavros Halkias4:15

       ... "I'm in." (laughs) Yeah.

   23. JRJoe Rogan4:16

       You like those.

   24. SHStavros Halkias4:17

       I'm in (laughs) . I want those. 'Cause in my mind that's gotta be... There's gotta be one of them that wants to fuck a fat guy to like-

   25. JRJoe Rogan4:25

       (laughs) Straighten them out.

   26. SHStavros Halkias4:26

       'Cause it's... Exactly, exactly.

   27. JRJoe Rogan4:26

       "You're a project."

   28. SHStavros Halkias4:27

       "You fucking fat piece of shit." Like just fi-

   29. JRJoe Rogan4:29

       (laughs)

   30. SHStavros Halkias4:29

       ... just f- just pinching my tits. You know what I mean? (laughs) And I'm like, "I'm a fucking little fat f- I'm a fuck... I'm a, I'm your fuck pig." You know? (laughs)
4. 9:26 – 13:58

   Stepmom porn, porn genres, and inventing a new “muscle-stepmom” storyline

   1. JRJoe Rogan9:26

      How much stepmom porn is there out there?

   2. SHStavros Halkias9:28

      There's a lot out there.

   3. JRJoe Rogan9:29

      It seems crazy.

   4. SHStavros Halkias9:30

      It's, I think it's a-

   5. JRJoe Rogan9:31

      Like, what happened? When did this emerge? Every now and then I check in-

   6. SHStavros Halkias9:34

      I don't know. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

   7. JRJoe Rogan9:34

      ... and there's a whole different wave of-

   8. SHStavros Halkias9:36

      Yeah.

   9. JRJoe Rogan9:37

      ... genre going on.

   10. SHStavros Halkias9:38

       That is huge. Um, I don't know what it is. I'm not... See, that's the weird thing. You would think I would have, like, mommy shit. I don't have that.

   11. JRJoe Rogan9:45

       I think stepmom shit is different.

   12. SHStavros Halkias9:47

       I find it disgusting. Stepmom is different.

   13. JRJoe Rogan9:47

       Stepmom is like dad is divorced, but dad's rich.

   14. SHStavros Halkias9:52

       True.

   15. JRJoe Rogan9:52

       And dad marries this really hot slut.

   16. SHStavros Halkias9:55

       Right.

   17. JRJoe Rogan9:55

       And, but dad's at work all day.

   18. SHStavros Halkias9:57

       And he's not at the meetings. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

   19. JRJoe Rogan9:57

       He's got to fucking run the corporation.

   20. SHStavros Halkias9:59

       He's gotta close the account. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

   21. JRJoe Rogan10:00

       And you're this jock son in college.

   22. SHStavros Halkias10:03

       Oh, yeah.

   23. JRJoe Rogan10:03

       That's, like, all of them. (laughs)

   24. SHStavros Halkias10:04

       Absolutely. That sounds pretty good.

   25. JRJoe Rogan10:06

       It's-

   26. SHStavros Halkias10:07

       You know what? I'm in.

   27. JRJoe Rogan10:08

       It's like a classic fucking Joseph Campbell genre. You know? (laughs)

   28. SHStavros Halkias10:12

       Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

   29. JRJoe Rogan10:13

       It's the hero's journey.

   30. SHStavros Halkias10:14

       It's American. Yeah, yeah, yeah. (laughs)
5. 13:58 – 15:58

   Victorian strongwomen, early lifting myths, and how training knowledge evolved

   1. JRJoe Rogan13:58

      Now, do you know-

   2. SHStavros Halkias13:59

      I'm in the back still.

   3. JRJoe Rogan14:00

      ... how much did they know, how much they know about, like, lifting weights and getting bigger?

   4. SHStavros Halkias14:04

      Back then?

   5. JRJoe Rogan14:05

      Isn't that crazy if you really stop and think about it?

   6. SHStavros Halkias14:07

      It is crazy. Yeah.

   7. JRJoe Rogan14:07

      Like, people didn't really figure that out until, what, like, a couple hundred years ago? (laughs)

   8. SHStavros Halkias14:13

      What, seven years ago? (laughs)

   9. NANarrator14:13

      (laughs)

   10. JRJoe Rogan14:13

       Well, if, like, no one looked like Ronnie Coleman until Ronnie Coleman-

   11. SHStavros Halkias14:16

       No, totally. No, there's even, like-

   12. JRJoe Rogan14:18

       That's, like, a, a couple d- we're talking about, like, decades of difference between, like-

   13. SHStavros Halkias14:22

       Fully.

   14. JRJoe Rogan14:23

       ... Frank Zane and, like, what they do today.

   15. SHStavros Halkias14:26

       Dude, like, Lin, I think... Was it Lin Swan? I don't remember who it was.

   16. NANarrator14:29

       Katie Sandwina, that's her name?

   17. SHStavros Halkias14:30

       There was an NS- There was a running back-

   18. NANarrator14:32

       Because she's in 1884. Look at the size of that lady.

   19. SHStavros Halkias14:34

       Oh, yeah. Katie Sandino.

   20. NANarrator14:36

       Was she a running back?

   21. SHStavros Halkias14:36

       There was a running back on the Bears. I ca- I'm blanking on his name.

   22. JRJoe Rogan14:38

       There's videos of her?

   23. NANarrator14:39

       I mean, it's not... It's pictures.

   24. JRJoe Rogan14:41

       Oh, just photos.

   25. SHStavros Halkias14:41

       Oh, that's a tough angle.

   26. NANarrator14:42

       Yeah, it's a rough one.

   27. SHStavros Halkias14:43

       I'm off. I'm actually off the Katie train. (laughs)

   28. NANarrator14:46

       (laughs)

   29. JRJoe Rogan14:46

       (laughs) Maybe it was later in life.

   30. SHStavros Halkias14:48

       Yeah, yeah, yeah.
6. 15:58 – 19:35

   Fighting conditioning philosophy: BJ Penn, Marinovich, and primes vs decline

   1. JRJoe Rogan15:58

      Not necessarily, because-

   2. SHStavros Halkias15:59

      You don't think so?

   3. JRJoe Rogan16:00

      No, because there's a lot of exercise. There's a lot of thought to, like, just getting very efficient at the technique when it comes to fighting.

   4. SHStavros Halkias16:09

      Hmm.

   5. JRJoe Rogan16:09

      There's some people who believe in strength and conditioning as the primary. They think that that's more important than anything.

   6. SHStavros Halkias16:14

      Right.

   7. JRJoe Rogan16:14

      Like, there's a school of thought like the Marv Marinovich, uh, school of thought, which was you already know how to fight, so get in insane shape.

   8. SHStavros Halkias16:22

      Right, right, right.

   9. JRJoe Rogan16:23

      And so he, he had guys doing these crazy plyometrics and all this different jumping boxes and stuff.

   10. SHStavros Halkias16:29

       Right, right, right.

   11. JRJoe Rogan16:29

       And they, they got... You know who BJ Penn is?

   12. SHStavros Halkias16:32

       BJ Penn?

   13. JRJoe Rogan16:33

       BJ Penn.

   14. SHStavros Halkias16:33

       Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

   15. JRJoe Rogan16:34

       Okay.

   16. SHStavros Halkias16:34

       Yes, yes, yes.

   17. JRJoe Rogan16:35

       One of the greatest fighters of all time.

   18. SHStavros Halkias16:36

       Yes.

   19. JRJoe Rogan16:36

       And BJ's... In his prime, BJ was training with the Marinovitches.

   20. SHStavros Halkias16:40

       Okay.

   21. JRJoe Rogan16:40

       So, he was just doing these unbelievably brutal cardio workouts every day.

   22. SHStavros Halkias16:44

       Yeah, yeah, yeah.

   23. JRJoe Rogan16:44

       And almost no martial arts.

   24. SHStavros Halkias16:46

       Interesting.

   25. JRJoe Rogan16:47

       And then he would go and have a gas tank that was off the charts.

   26. SHStavros Halkias16:51

       Right.

   27. JRJoe Rogan16:51

       When you got a guy who's already as talented as BJ with zero fear of getting tired-

   28. SHStavros Halkias16:56

       Right, right.

   29. JRJoe Rogan16:56

       ... he was the GOAT.

   30. SHStavros Halkias16:57

       Yeah.
7. 19:35 – 23:22

   Tyson’s chaos, Achilles’ bargain, and the cost of glory in comedy

   1. JRJoe Rogan19:35

      When he lost to Buster Douglas?

   2. SHStavros Halkias19:36

      Yes, the Buster Douglas fight.

   3. JRJoe Rogan19:37

      Yeah. But even after the Buster Douglas fight, he was still Mike Tyson.

   4. SHStavros Halkias19:40

      Yeah.

   5. JRJoe Rogan19:40

      People were still terrified of him.

   6. SHStavros Halkias19:41

      He was st- he was just, like, a little, a little resting on his laurels, you know?

   7. JRJoe Rogan19:45

      Well, he-

   8. SHStavros Halkias19:45

      Fucking the maid.

   9. JRJoe Rogan19:46

      Yeah.

   10. SHStavros Halkias19:46

       That's the best story of all time.

   11. JRJoe Rogan19:47

       He was out of control.

   12. SHStavros Halkias19:48

       Yeah.

   13. JRJoe Rogan19:49

       He'll tell you what he was doing. He was out of fucking control.

   14. SHStavros Halkias19:52

       Yeah.

   15. JRJoe Rogan19:52

       You know, he, he fought on drugs.

   16. SHStavros Halkias19:54

       (laughs)

   17. JRJoe Rogan19:55

       He fought sick. He was sick. Like, he had, uh, when he knocked out Michael Spinks-

   18. SHStavros Halkias19:59

       (sighs)

   19. JRJoe Rogan19:59

       ... he had some sort of venereal disease.

   20. SHStavros Halkias20:02

       (laughs)

   21. JRJoe Rogan20:02

       No bullshit. Dude, Mike Tyson in that era-

   22. SHStavros Halkias20:06

       Uh, dick leaking. (laughs)

   23. JRJoe Rogan20:07

       (laughs)

   24. SHStavros Halkias20:07

       And just fucking throwing haymakers. (laughs)

   25. JRJoe Rogan20:09

       You gotta think, like, part of the reason why he was so good was p- well, because he was so wild.

   26. SHStavros Halkias20:14

       Yeah.

   27. JRJoe Rogan20:14

       But also, if he wasn't, if he just maximized his insane potential-

   28. SHStavros Halkias20:21

       Yeah.

   29. JRJoe Rogan20:21

       ... and was like a Marvin Hagler-type guy-

   30. SHStavros Halkias20:23

       Right.
8. 23:22 – 30:32

   Sports as proxy war and ancient games: football origins and Mayan ball myths

   1. JRJoe Rogan23:22

      The thing about combat sports, though, that is really fascinating to me is, I think it ignites in us that same weird instinct to conquer. But it does so in, like, an agreed-upon manner instead of doing-

   2. SHStavros Halkias23:36

      Right.

   3. JRJoe Rogan23:36

      ... so through war.

   4. SHStavros Halkias23:37

      Right.

   5. JRJoe Rogan23:37

      It's like a great way to avoid war.

   6. SHStavros Halkias23:39

      For sure.

   7. JRJoe Rogan23:39

      'Cause, like, how many of these guys who would be d- dominant MMA fighters if they were living five, 600 years ago? They would be dominant warriors.

   8. SHStavros Halkias23:46

      Right, right, right.

   9. JRJoe Rogan23:46

      Like, almost all of them.

   10. SHStavros Halkias23:47

       Yeah, yeah.

   11. JRJoe Rogan23:47

       Like, society has figured out a way through things like football, which was initially created for that.

   12. SHStavros Halkias23:52

       Yeah.

   13. JRJoe Rogan23:52

       Like, football was literally created as a sport to, to, to sort of stimulate-

   14. SHStavros Halkias23:57

       Blow off some steam.

   15. JRJoe Rogan23:57

       Wasn't it? Didn't we go over that before?

   16. SHStavros Halkias23:59

       Like ground war?

   17. JRJoe Rogan23:59

       That football was created, was invented to sort of simulate war?

   18. SHStavros Halkias24:03

       Sort of, yeah. I mean, couldn't you say that about-

   19. JRJoe Rogan24:05

       Can we find that? Let's find that-

   20. SHStavros Halkias24:06

       It's-

   21. JRJoe Rogan24:06

       ... with the article because I don't wanna fuck that story up.

   22. SHStavros Halkias24:08

       Uh, uh. (laughs)

   23. JRJoe Rogan24:08

       'Cause it's an interesting story-

   24. SHStavros Halkias24:09

       Yeah.

   25. JRJoe Rogan24:10

       ... about the origins of football. But there's a thing when you watch a, like, a guy win a world title fight.

   26. SHStavros Halkias24:16

       Yeah.

   27. JRJoe Rogan24:16

       There's a thing where you watch two of the best in the world fight. Where la wh- everyone gets to watch.

   28. SHStavros Halkias24:22

       Right, right.

   29. JRJoe Rogan24:22

       And these guys who are the, the wildest and craziest of our, of our population-

   30. SHStavros Halkias24:27

       Yeah. Yeah.
9. 30:32 – 43:10

   Religion, church power, and Catholic abuse scandals vs Orthodoxy culture

   1. JRJoe Rogan30:32

      How about the pope gets to wear one like a fish's head?

   2. SHStavros Halkias30:34

      Yeah, dude.

   3. JRJoe Rogan30:34

      What's that one?

   4. SHStavros Halkias30:35

      The co-

   5. JRJoe Rogan30:35

      What the fuck is that one?

   6. SHStavros Halkias30:36

      That one's sick. I don't know what it's called, but-

   7. JRJoe Rogan30:37

      Imagine, like when... You should kinda get suspicious-

   8. SHStavros Halkias30:41

      Yeah.

   9. JRJoe Rogan30:41

      ... when your guy can't dress like regular people.

   10. SHStavros Halkias30:43

       Yeah, yeah, yeah.

   11. JRJoe Rogan30:44

       Like if you're in a cult, if you're in-

   12. SHStavros Halkias30:45

       Right.

   13. JRJoe Rogan30:46

       ... a religion, when the dude shows up dressed like a wizard-

   14. SHStavros Halkias30:48

       (laughs) Yeah.

   15. JRJoe Rogan30:49

       ... you should go, "Hey-"

   16. NANarrator30:50

       "Is this on, the level?"

   17. SHStavros Halkias30:52

       (laughs)

   18. JRJoe Rogan30:52

       "Can we get, do we get one of those golden staves?" (laughs)

   19. NANarrator30:55

       (laughs)

   20. JRJoe Rogan30:55

       Look at this cat. Look at this cat. Look at this cat.

   21. SHStavros Halkias30:58

       I think that's fucking sick.

   22. JRJoe Rogan30:58

       He's got a golden staff.

   23. SHStavros Halkias31:00

       Yeah.

   24. JRJoe Rogan31:00

       A golden helmet.

   25. SHStavros Halkias31:01

       So we don't get those, huh? Just him?

   26. NANarrator31:03

       (laughs)

   27. SHStavros Halkias31:04

       Bro, look at that hat. This is the new pope. The new pope is more chill.

   28. JRJoe Rogan31:07

       He is a little more chill.

   29. SHStavros Halkias31:07

       See his shit is silver. Notice how his shit is silver?

   30. JRJoe Rogan31:09

       He's humble, yeah, yeah.
10. 43:10 – 50:12

    Student debt and elite university endowments as a “perpetual motion” scam

    1. SHStavros Halkias43:10

       I mean, the same reason fucking kids shouldn't... Like, s- why student debt is such a, like, bullshit situation. 'Cause it's like, yeah, you have some 17-year-old kid who's like, "I wanna be a marine biologist." And then he goes and he's like, "Oh, I'm actually... I can't do math. I'm a fucking..."

    2. JRJoe Rogan43:23

       (laughs)

    3. SHStavros Halkias43:23

       "I'm dumb as shit and now I owe $40,000."

    4. JRJoe Rogan43:26

       A lot more than that. (laughs)

    5. SHStavros Halkias43:27

       Yeah, yeah.

    6. JRJoe Rogan43:28

       Yeah. It's... Also, it's the only debt you can't get out of.

    7. SHStavros Halkias43:31

       It's so fucked up.

    8. JRJoe Rogan43:32

       It's so fucked up. It's so fucked up. To, to, to saddle kids with that.

    9. SHStavros Halkias43:35

       So fucked.

    10. JRJoe Rogan43:35

        Like, literal children.

    11. SHStavros Halkias43:37

        Yeah.

    12. JRJoe Rogan43:38

        17-year-olds. Yeah. 18-year-olds with that is so nuts because you can get out of everything.

    13. SHStavros Halkias43:45

        Oh, dude. Yeah, every-

    14. JRJoe Rogan43:46

        You think Sam Bankman-Fried is gonna have to pay $8 billion- (laughs) Yeah, yeah. ... or whatever the fuck is missing? (laughs) Yeah, yeah. He's not gonna have to pay that.

    15. NANarrator43:52

        Did you see this, that Sager did? This piece about, uh, Ivy League. I think it was Columbia.

    16. JRJoe Rogan43:57

        No, let's play it, 'cause he's awesome.

    17. NANarrator43:59

        Well, he was repeating Malcolm Gladwell's thing. It's a perpetual motion thing.

    18. JRJoe Rogan44:02

        Well, why does it... We'll, we'll get a sense of it.

    19. NANarrator44:07

        ... of learning in the US have long departed their mission statements. They are effectively recession-proof industries, set up to bilk the federal government and students while funding a pernicious ideology that is spreading across our higher elite like cancer. At the root of it is a rigged financial system. These industries beclown themselves because they can. They can because students pay. But more so, they don't even really need the students to pay anymore. It is becoming increasingly s- clear in the size of university endowments, which Malcolm Gladwell recently revealed as a scam of epic proportions, focusing his laser on Princeton University. "Princeton is the world's first perpetual motion machine," Gladwell writes. At the heart of his argument is this, quote, "After a stellar year in 2021, Princeton University has an endowment of 37.7 billion. Over the past 20 years, the average annual return for the endowment has been 11.2%, which puts, puts Princeton's return next year at roughly 3.77 billion." He continues, "Now what is Princeton's annual operating budget? That would be 1.86 billion. The arithmetic is not hard. 3.7 billion in investment minus 1.86 in operating still leaves you with 1.91 billion." Leading him to conclude what? Quote, "Princeton could let every student in for free. The university administrators could tell the US government and all of its agencies, 'It's cool. We got this.' They could take out the cash registers in their cafeteria. They could hand out free parking to all visitors. They could give away Princeton sweatshirts on Nassau Street. They could fire their entire accounts receivable staff and their entire fronting staff tomorrow." In fact, his team even put together this handy little chart. Princeton has been not just doing this recently, but for nearly two decades. On a year by year basis, their endowment return, just the e- return, nearly exactly equals or surpasses the entire operating budget of the whole school, meaning no student would ever need to be charged tuition again. Or you could imagine a world where students pay much, much less. Also, as you can guess, this is not just the case with Princeton University. It's the case with almost every Ivy League institution in this entire country, whose endowments in some cases surpass, and I'm not kidding, the GDP of small African nations. With this mountain of wealth, don't... Why, why are they not doing what they were supposed to do? They were supposed to spend it on students. Instead, they simply reinvest the returns, build an ever-growing pile of cash, giving fees to money managers, all while continuing to raise tuition precipitously, even when you're all giving them is freaking Zoom school.

    20. SHStavros Halkias46:48

        (laughs)

    21. NANarrator46:48

        Tuition at Princeton right now is $80,000 a year. Let it sink in. That is ten grand more than the average US household income annually. Which brings us to the tax code. And now look.

    22. Do you want to stop there or...

    23. JRJoe Rogan47:02

        Yeah, that's good enough, but Jesus Christ, what a scam.

    24. SHStavros Halkias47:06

        I mean, Ivy Leagues in general, it's like they're, they're like...

    25. JRJoe Rogan47:08

        (exhales)

    26. SHStavros Halkias47:08

        And that's... I mean, I think public ed- I think education should be free. Um, I think it should be, you should be able to go to college for free. I think we should forgive student debt, all that kind of shit. Um, but it is... Ivy Leagues in general, it's like so fucked, 'cause they have the money. The-

    27. JRJoe Rogan47:21

        Well, I think it would be wise if we gave it available to citizens. Like, what, what, what would be the harm in that? They wouldn't work hard to get it because it doesn't cost anything.

    28. SHStavros Halkias47:33

        Well, the har- Yeah.

    29. JRJoe Rogan47:33

        Maybe. Some people. But-

    30. SHStavros Halkias47:35

        No, that's ridiculous.
11. 50:12 – 56:29

    Military tech lag, China, collapse scenarios, and modern vs ancient brutality

    1. SHStavros Halkias50:12

       Exquisite sensory-

    2. JRJoe Rogan50:13

       Whoops. And, uh, it's all about, uh, technology and how far behind America is in terms of military technology-

    3. SHStavros Halkias50:20

       Hmm.

    4. JRJoe Rogan50:20

       ... and our implementation of the current technology that we have available, like the highest levels like NVIDIA chips and, and what-

    5. SHStavros Halkias50:27

       Yeah.

    6. JRJoe Rogan50:27

       ... that's actually been used in the actual m- military equipment and machines. It's so beyond, uh, behind the times. The shit that's available that's on top of the food chain.

    7. SHStavros Halkias50:37

       And, and that's, that's what's so fucking annoying is, like, where the fuck are ... And like, that's what I can't stand about the way America's set up is, like, all the money is ... The fucking, you know, the army gets the money, so how the fuck are we behind?

    8. JRJoe Rogan50:47

       This is, this is talking about how that, those funds, those defense funds is a lot of what funded Silicon Valley.

    9. SHStavros Halkias50:53

       Mm-hmm.

    10. JRJoe Rogan50:54

        That it all started there, like, working on military intelligence-

    11. SHStavros Halkias50:58

        Interesting.

    12. JRJoe Rogan50:58

        ... and, and projects. And, and they dump tons and tons of money into this stuff. And then, you know, if you look at, like, what's available now in terms of, like, the top fighter jets and the top, you know, uh, uh, all the different equipment that they use that uses computers, and comparing, they're comparing, like-

    13. SHStavros Halkias51:15

        To, like, China shit?

    14. JRJoe Rogan51:15

        ... computing power with what's available. Yeah. And China has been copying everything we do. And then the thing with, like, Huawei, the reason why they banned Huawei in this country, I believe they had discovered that there's a third-party access through routers.

    15. SHStavros Halkias51:30

        Hmm.

    16. JRJoe Rogan51:31

        And they, they'd always suspected something like that, and which means that they could just steal your intellectual property. So you're over here and this, you got a billion-dollar grant from the government-

    17. SHStavros Halkias51:38

        Right, right, right.

    18. JRJoe Rogan51:38

        ... to make some artificial intelligence chip-

    19. SHStavros Halkias51:40

        (laughs) And they just steal your shit.

    20. JRJoe Rogan51:41

        ... and China is just scooping out your data-

    21. SHStavros Halkias51:43

        I'm ready, dude.

    22. JRJoe Rogan51:44

        ... and banging it out before you can.

    23. SHStavros Halkias51:45

        Get me a jacked Chinese woman. I'll live-

    24. JRJoe Rogan51:47

        (laughs)

    25. SHStavros Halkias51:47

        I'll, I'll live under her. Whatever you want, I'm fucking in there. I'm cooking all day for her.

    26. JRJoe Rogan51:52

        You ready?

    27. SHStavros Halkias51:52

        I'm ready to be a house husband.

    28. JRJoe Rogan51:53

        All right.

    29. SHStavros Halkias51:54

        (laughs) And talk about, talk about the magnificence of China. (laughs) Of the, the ... I can't wait.

    30. JRJoe Rogan51:59

        Yeah.
12. 56:29 – 1:26:41

    Ancient Greece, psychedelics, bestiality tangents, and “nature doesn’t care” animals

    1. SHStavros Halkias56:29

       Dude, I-

    2. JRJoe Rogan56:29

       The Mongols did it.

    3. SHStavros Halkias56:30

       I know. It's c- it's crazy 'cause I've been, I'm on a big history kick.

    4. JRJoe Rogan56:32

       Ah.

    5. SHStavros Halkias56:33

       And I'm reading about, like, I was just, I was just, you know ... I was on ... Like, I'm on the Trojan War tip a little bit, on some Greek sh- I'm, I'm reconnecting with my roots a little bit, but I also just-

    6. JRJoe Rogan56:41

       You got some badass roots, brother.

    7. SHStavros Halkias56:42

       They ... Yeah. Ancient Greece fucking rules.

    8. JRJoe Rogan56:44

       The Greeks?

    9. SHStavros Halkias56:44

       Yeah, yeah, yeah.

    10. JRJoe Rogan56:45

        Come on, son.

    11. SHStavros Halkias56:45

        Yeah.

    12. JRJoe Rogan56:45

        You come from one of the most important histories-

    13. SHStavros Halkias56:48

        Yeah.

    14. JRJoe Rogan56:48

        ... in all of, uh, the human race.

    15. SHStavros Halkias56:50

        No, it's the best. Yeah.

    16. JRJoe Rogan56:51

        They did some wild shit in your country.

    17. SHStavros Halkias56:53

        Truly. No, it's, it's fucking awesome. But you think about ... And the medi- I'm also fascinated by medieval times. And you just think about, like-

    18. JRJoe Rogan57:00

        Yeah.

    19. SHStavros Halkias57:00

        ... wha- ... All the history that we learn is about like, "Oh, this king fucked this king up, and this ..."

    20. JRJoe Rogan57:04

        Yeah.

    21. SHStavros Halkias57:04

        But it's like w-... and they always just kind of gloss over, like, "And, you know, the army raided the countryside," and it's, like, imagine being the fucking assholes on the countryside outside of the city. You're outside Athens, you're outside of Troy, whatever. You just get fucked, like, every 10 years when some asshole, some rich asshole, some guy with wa- running water, he gets to fu- decides he wants to fuck up your town. He just comes through, steals your shit, takes your fucking wife, kills your son, and you just have to, like... Now you fucking get turnips for him (laughs) or, or he kills you too. It's just like a p- like a... I think about how fucked up it would have been to just be a peasant and to be-

    22. JRJoe Rogan57:41

        And you become a slave.

    23. SHStavros Halkias57:41

        ... caught in between this shit.

    24. JRJoe Rogan57:43

        Yeah.

    25. SHStavros Halkias57:43

        And it's like you're just a piece of property that gets, like-

    26. JRJoe Rogan57:45

        Yeah.

    27. SHStavros Halkias57:46

        ... who, who you have to pay taxes to changes every 20 years, and every 20 years they come in and just fuck, you know-

    28. JRJoe Rogan57:52

        Yeah.

    29. SHStavros Halkias57:52

        ... just fuck, rape everyone, take all your gold.

    30. JRJoe Rogan57:55

        Well, that was what people liked about Game of Thrones too. Like, Game of Thrones, they w- they were behaving like we would expect them to behave if they lived in this dimension.

Episode duration: 3:25:55