Joe Rogan Experience #1912 - Steven Rinella

1. 0:00 – 15:00

   (drumming music) Joe Rogan podcast.…

   1. NANarrator0:00

      (drumming music) Joe Rogan podcast. Check it out.

   2. JRJoe Rogan0:04

      The Joe Rogan Experience. Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. (rock music)

   3. SRSteven Rinella0:14

      I don't know what it ... I don't ... You know, and then when this FTX thing happened, I'm like, "Of course."

   4. JRJoe Rogan0:18

      Yeah.

   5. SRSteven Rinella0:18

      Of course, you fucking scumbags.

   6. JRJoe Rogan0:20

      I've become obsessed with that shit, man.

   7. SRSteven Rinella0:21

      Oh my God, man. That's-

   8. JRJoe Rogan0:22

      I just, like, 'cause I, I'm already imagining like the fucking, how many people are writing that fucking screenplay right now.

   9. SRSteven Rinella0:27

      Are we w- are we up running?

   10. JRJoe Rogan0:29

       (laughs)

   11. SRSteven Rinella0:29

       Let's, let's go. We're rolling? Good. Let's talk about this. Yeah. I'm, I'm fascinated by it. I, I'm fascinated by scammers.

   12. JRJoe Rogan0:36

       Mm-hmm.

   13. SRSteven Rinella0:37

       You know, I'm, uh, I, I knew a lot of, uh, scammers in my pool hall days. I knew a lot of, uh ... I knew a guy that was, uh, one of the first guys that ever was involved in credit card fraud.

   14. JRJoe Rogan0:47

       Hmm.

   15. SRSteven Rinella0:48

       Back in like the early '80s. His name was International Sal. He was a fucking character, like a real character.

   16. JRJoe Rogan0:55

       Sal?

   17. SRSteven Rinella0:56

       Sal. International Sal, that's what they called him, because he was, uh, he was like a m- like a mob guy, essentially. And what they would do is they would go to grocery stor- or, um, department stores rather, and you know they had those carbons when you would ... y- in the old days with credit cards. They would pshh, pshh, pshh.

   18. JRJoe Rogan1:11

       Oh yeah, I remember that. Yeah.

   19. SRSteven Rinella1:12

       They would take those carbons, and someone would sell him the carbons, and then they would print copies of credit cards, and then they would buy a bunch of shit.

   20. JRJoe Rogan1:21

       Oh.

   21. SRSteven Rinella1:21

       And then they would sell that shit, and they would come to him with bags of money to the pool hall.

   22. JRJoe Rogan1:26

       (laughs)

   23. SRSteven Rinella1:26

       And then ... (laughs)

   24. JRJoe Rogan1:27

       It's a good idea.

   25. SRSteven Rinella1:28

       And he would blow it all. He would blow it all. It's, it's like we always talked about it. It's like it's, he, he had dirty money, and he couldn't keep it. It's like he was ... He couldn't win. Like he could not win. Like if the nine ball was four inches in front of the hole, he would find a way to dog it.

   26. JRJoe Rogan1:45

       Oh, like the cosmos knew that the money was no good.

   27. SRSteven Rinella1:47

       Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah. It was something. It was like, "Is it in his head?"

   28. JRJoe Rogan1:51

       (laughs)

   29. SRSteven Rinella1:51

       He had the worst case of buck fever I've ever seen in my fucking life.

   30. JRJoe Rogan1:55

       (laughs)
2. 15:00 – 30:00

   Mm-hmm. …

   1. SRSteven Rinella15:00

      exists.

   2. JRJoe Rogan15:01

      Mm-hmm.

   3. SRSteven Rinella15:01

      There's always been people that are full of shit that are manipulating things and saying that they're not, and we're finding this out now with Twitter, now that Elon Musk purchased Twitter.

   4. JRJoe Rogan15:09

      Mm-hmm.

   5. SRSteven Rinella15:10

      And he's finding that, you know, they, they literally had FBI people embedded in Twitter that were holding back information from him. Like, there was a guy that he fired that e- was an FBI guy that worked for the FBI at one point in time and now was one of the head guys at Twitter and was withholding information from him while he was trying to release information about... A- allegedly, I think it's, I should say allegedly so I don't get in trouble here with this. But th- what the, the, the, what he was saying essentially is this person was a bottleneck to releasing this data-

   6. JRJoe Rogan15:44

      Yeah.

   7. SRSteven Rinella15:44

      ... where they were trying to find out, like, why did President Trump get banned, you know, what was going on in terms of shadow banning conservative people, and w- how much, how much coordination was going on inside the company to try to suppress certain ideologies-

   8. JRJoe Rogan15:59

      Yo, yeah, yeah.

   9. SRSteven Rinella15:59

      ... and magnify other ones, and it's pretty stunning.

   10. JRJoe Rogan16:03

       I'd be curio- uh, I'm curious how much of that stuff's in there, how hard it is to find, and how much people were just being more discreet with text messages and phone calls.

   11. SRSteven Rinella16:14

       Yeah, there's probably a lot of that. But, you know, I think with corporations, they tend to do things on Slack, you know, that, that they have an internal messaging system.

   12. JRJoe Rogan16:22

       Oh, yeah. I know what's Slack, yeah.

   13. SRSteven Rinella16:23

       So-

   14. JRJoe Rogan16:23

       I don't use it, but I know about it.

   15. SRSteven Rinella16:25

       But I think-

   16. JRJoe Rogan16:25

       Yeah.

   17. SRSteven Rinella16:26

       I think it's all recorded, unfortunately, for them.

   18. JRJoe Rogan16:28

       I'm the only person in m- I'm the, I'm the only person in my company that doesn't use Slack. Drives everybody crazy.

   19. SRSteven Rinella16:32

       (laughs) Like-

   20. JRJoe Rogan16:32

       I'm always just, like, I feel like there's, like, so many ways to get ahold of me.

   21. SRSteven Rinella16:35

       (laughs)

   22. JRJoe Rogan16:35

       (laughs) I don't need, like, a fourth one.

   23. SRSteven Rinella16:37

       Yeah.

   24. JRJoe Rogan16:38

       Like, you email me. You call me. You text me. Now I gotta have another one? (laughs)

   25. SRSteven Rinella16:41

       Knock on your door. (laughs)

   26. JRJoe Rogan16:43

       I didn't even... Wouldn't even count that.

   27. SRSteven Rinella16:45

       Yeah.

   28. JRJoe Rogan16:46

       It's just like, holy shit, man.

   29. SRSteven Rinella16:47

       If I ever get to the point where this podcast has Slack, I'm gonna sell it.

   30. JRJoe Rogan16:50

       You and Jamie can Slack all day? (laughs)
3. 30:00 – 45:00

   Yeah. …

   1. SRSteven Rinella30:00

      he, there was a park in New York City that w- they were gonna level, and now it's like fuckin' condos, they're gonna put a prison there and bunch of shit, and, uh, he's like, "It's a fuckin' great park. This is bullshit." You know, like, "So do what you can to try to ..." And so we were ragging on him, like, and saying, uh, "Ari, we gotta protect this park, Ari." And they, obviously they did level it, you know, so the name of the podcast became Protect Our Parks.

   2. JRJoe Rogan30:24

      Yeah.

   3. SRSteven Rinella30:25

      Just for fun. But that is the most ridiculous podcast ever. Like we, we, just four of us, we're always high and drunk, and we're talkin' crazy shit and just talkin' over each other and it's just really rowdy and nuts, but there's no responsibility. It's like that, it's not responsible at all.

   4. JRJoe Rogan30:41

      Yeah.

   5. SRSteven Rinella30:41

      So completely irresponsible podcast. But it's not on purpose. Like, it's not like we're doin' it to try to stir people up. We're just doin' it to talk shit and have fun.

   6. JRJoe Rogan30:50

      Mm-hmm.

   7. SRSteven Rinella30:51

      That's the benefit of being a comedian, though.... like, you always have that. Like, you, you're like, if you say something outrageous, it's like, it's not really what you mean. You're just talking shit. You're just having fun.

   8. JRJoe Rogan31:01

      Yeah.

   9. SRSteven Rinella31:02

      But people will... This is w- is a weird time, where people will pretend that talking shit is not a thing, that everything you say can not be in jest at all. And, you know, if you take it and put it in a quote in an article, like, it, it, you know, like, joking around opinions could be completely misconstrued.

   10. JRJoe Rogan31:19

       What's your take on, um... I was, I read a piece the other day in the Journal. It was about a executive at Apple, an Apple executive who's a-

   11. SRSteven Rinella31:29

       Yeah.

   12. JRJoe Rogan31:29

       ... car enthusiast.

   13. SRSteven Rinella31:30

       Yeah, I know that.

   14. JRJoe Rogan31:30

       Have you already talked about this?

   15. SRSteven Rinella31:31

       No. No, we haven't. But yeah.

   16. JRJoe Rogan31:33

       So, there's a, there's a TikToker whose shtick is that he'll a- he'll catch people in luxury cars, I gather, noteworthy cars, and his thing is like, "Hey, what do you do for a living?" He approaches an Apple executive, who h- uh, this, the detail that matters to me the most is that the guy's with his wife. He's not at a work function and he's with his wife, which totally changes what he's, how he answers.

   17. SRSteven Rinella31:57

       Yeah.

   18. JRJoe Rogan31:57

       He's with his wife, and he decides to quote a movie that's becoming increasingly obscure as the years go by, which is the movie Arthur, which was, like, a comedy about a drunk. Who was that? Di- di-

   19. SRSteven Rinella32:10

       Dudley Moore.

   20. JRJoe Rogan32:10

       Okay, Dudley Moore, yeah.

   21. SRSteven Rinella32:11

       1981.

   22. JRJoe Rogan32:12

       Okay. And he says-

   23. SRSteven Rinella32:13

       I think it was '81.

   24. JRJoe Rogan32:14

       Someone says, "What do you do for a living?" And he said... He's trying to be funny and he quotes Arthur.

   25. SRSteven Rinella32:19

       Let's play it.

   26. JRJoe Rogan32:19

       Oh, here we go.

   27. SRSteven Rinella32:20

       Here we go. My name is Austin. What do you do for a living? (laughs) I race cars, play golf, and fondle big-breasted women. (laughs)

   28. JRJoe Rogan32:27

       (laughs)

   29. SRSteven Rinella32:27

       But I take weekends and major holidays off. Okay. (laughs)

   30. NANarrator32:31

       (laughs)
4. 45:00 – 1:00:00

   Yeah, it's like that…

   1. SRSteven Rinella45:00

      making a character, and what, what he means from that character is, you know, he's trying to paint a film, t- trying to paint a picture inside of a film. And you can say the same thing.

   2. JRJoe Rogan45:09

      Yeah, it's like that old, it's like that old Joe Rogan joke. How come no one's mad at, uh, um, Johnny Cash for kill-

   3. SRSteven Rinella45:15

      Yeah. (laughs)

   4. JRJoe Rogan45:16

      ... killing a man just to watch him die? (laughs)

   5. SRSteven Rinella45:18

      (laughs) Exactly, exactly. And hey- guess what? Bob Marley never really shot the sheriff.

   6. JRJoe Rogan45:22

      (laughs) Yeah.

   7. SRSteven Rinella45:23

      That was not real. Proposed federal bill to limit music lyrics being used as evidence. Jesus.

   8. NANarrator45:29

      It's more about, uh, specific acts that were committed and-

   9. SRSteven Rinella45:33

      Oh, like details-

   10. NANarrator45:35

       ... when and where they were committed. Yeah, yeah.

   11. SRSteven Rinella45:35

       ... of crimes?

   12. NANarrator45:36

       Correct, yeah, yeah.

   13. SRSteven Rinella45:36

       Okay, yeah. Well, that's the thing about, like, gangsta rap is that they will actually detail specific things that they have been accused of, which is more problematic.

   14. JRJoe Rogan45:47

       Oh, it's like OJ's book If I Did It?

   15. SRSteven Rinella45:49

       Right.

   16. JRJoe Rogan45:50

       Oh.

   17. SRSteven Rinella45:50

       Yeah, yeah. I had a copy of that. I think my wife threw it out 'cause I can't find it, and she's tight-lipped. (laughs)

   18. JRJoe Rogan45:58

       (laughs)

   19. SRSteven Rinella45:58

       Somebody gave me... I forget who, some comic gave me a signed copy of OJ's D- If I Did It.

   20. JRJoe Rogan46:05

       Really?

   21. SRSteven Rinella46:05

       Yeah. I never even cracked the book. I don't even think I ever even... I think it was sealed.

   22. JRJoe Rogan46:09

       You better watch out 'cause he'll break into your house trying to get his shit back.

   23. SRSteven Rinella46:13

       (laughs)

   24. JRJoe Rogan46:13

       He'll, he'll be in his own... He'll think it's his own memorabilia. (laughs)

   25. SRSteven Rinella46:16

       I think he's done with that. Isn't it amazing that that's what he went to jail for?

   26. JRJoe Rogan46:22

       Yeah, there's that, uh, Norm MacDonald bit where it's, uh, him trying to establish his bona fides in prison, and he's like, "Well, hey, man, I killed my wife and the waiter, you know?" They're like, "No, you did not." (laughs) Like, the fellow prisoners can't take him seriously. (laughs)

   27. SRSteven Rinella46:39

       Right. Trying to establish his bona fides. That's funny. No, you were acquitted, bro.

   28. JRJoe Rogan46:45

       (laughs)

   29. SRSteven Rinella46:45

       That shit ain't real. All you did is get your merch back-

   30. JRJoe Rogan46:48

       (laughs)
5. 1:00:00 – 1:15:00

   Of what you can…

   1. JRJoe Rogan1:00:00

      ... You know what I mean?

   2. SRSteven Rinella1:00:01

      Of what you can get away with.

   3. JRJoe Rogan1:00:01

      The legal process, right? And I could've been ... Not had that a, uh, father with that level of ambition who didn't go to that church and might've been like, I didn't go to graduate school.

   4. SRSteven Rinella1:00:14

      Right.

   5. JRJoe Rogan1:00:14

      Because I had resisting arrest. I had resisting arrest charges.

   6. SRSteven Rinella1:00:20

      Mm. Yeah.

   7. JRJoe Rogan1:00:22

      But all of a sudden, I didn't-

   8. SRSteven Rinella1:00:24

      Now, imagine-

   9. JRJoe Rogan1:00:24

      ... because of connections.

   10. SRSteven Rinella1:00:25

       Imagine being Hunter Biden.

   11. JRJoe Rogan1:00:27

       Oh. Yeah.

   12. SRSteven Rinella1:00:29

       You feel like you can get away with anything. (laughs)

   13. JRJoe Rogan1:00:31

       (laughs) Yeah, and, um, listen. My dad n- my, uh, my dad never finished high school, right? So it's like, he's not, like ... He's not, like, that ... Wasn't, like, that kind of power player.

   14. SRSteven Rinella1:00:39

       Right.

   15. JRJoe Rogan1:00:39

       He's just a dude in the community that, that started with the people at church and f- found his way doing, like, something very natural, which is, like, protect your ... You know? Your kid's screwed up? Protect your kid.

   16. SRSteven Rinella1:00:51

       Yeah.

   17. JRJoe Rogan1:00:53

       So yeah, you can wind up with, you know ... And, and, uh-... you, you know? I, I'm, I'm just saying it's more as, like, full disclosure. And me saying that, like, my existence has led me to have certain things, it's like, I've had some shit happen where, for a lot of people, that's not how it would have gone down.

   18. SRSteven Rinella1:01:09

       Right. You could've done some jail time.

   19. JRJoe Rogan1:01:11

       Sure.

   20. SRSteven Rinella1:01:12

       Yeah. Or worse.

   21. JRJoe Rogan1:01:13

       I'd be there all night.

   22. SRSteven Rinella1:01:15

       Do you know that story, there's a woman who got pulled over by the cops. It's a, a f- pretty famous story of abuse. He, uh ... This woman gets pulled over by the cops and she's smoking in her car. And I think she wasn't doing anything crazy. You know, like, maybe speeding a little bit. Nothing crazy. But she's smoking a cigarette in her car and the cop tells her to put the cigarette out. And she's like, "Why should I? I d- I don't have to put the cigarette out." And he's like, "Get out of the car." And she's like, "I'm not getting out of the car." Like, "Why? Why am I ... Why are you detaining me?" And he manhandles her, arrests her. She winds up dead in her cell.

   23. JRJoe Rogan1:01:48

       What?

   24. SRSteven Rinella1:01:48

       He's ... Yeah. They-

   25. JRJoe Rogan1:01:49

       'Cause of secondhand smoke.

   26. SRSteven Rinella1:01:50

       No, no, no. Yeah. I mean, yeah. That. But I mean, winds up, they said that she committed suicide, but it's very suspicious. The whole thing is very suspicious.

   27. JRJoe Rogan1:01:58

       Hm. Oh, I do remem- yeah.

   28. SRSteven Rinella1:01:59

       Remember that story?

   29. JRJoe Rogan1:02:00

       Yep. Now it's coming back.

   30. SRSteven Rinella1:02:01

       Yeah.
6. 1:15:00 – 1:15:35

   Section 6

   1. SRSteven Rinella1:15:00

      news is that Bow has returned. The second good news is that a nation- (Russian) . That spits on its heroes to the extent- (Russian) . That it considers it significantly more important to free a rightly charged, well-known athlete. (Russian) . She didn't suffer because she served her motherland, but because she couldn't live for 10 hours without her hashish. Instead of freeing that person imprisoned for two years- (Russian) . For serving his motherland. (Russian) . This says a lot about the state of this society. So, this is just, like, basically Fox News in Russia.

Episode duration: 3:23:33