Joe Rogan Experience #1913 - Brian Redban

Brian Redban is a comedian, producer, co-host of the podcast and live-streaming YouTube show "Kill Tony," and founder of the Deathsquad podcast network.

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0:00 – 0:58
Intro
1. JRJoe Rogan
  (drumbeats) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out.
2. NANarrator
  The Joe Rogan Experience.
3. NANarrator
  Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night. All day. (rock music)
4. NANarrator
  Oh, hey there.
5. JRJoe Rogan
  Oh, hi.
6. NANarrator
  We're, we're up. We're back, baby. Wee. Joe Rogan Experience.
7. JRJoe Rogan
  Dude, isn't this like, uh, we're closing in on our anniversary.
8. NANarrator
  Yeah, again. What is it?
9. JRJoe Rogan
  Again. It's the 31st, I think we did it.
10. NANarrator
  Right.
11. JRJoe Rogan
  I think we did it on, like-
12. NANarrator
  New Year's Eve.
13. JRJoe Rogan
  ... New Year's Day or New Year's Eve, rather.
14. NANarrator
  Christmas Eve.
15. JRJoe Rogan
  Christmas Eve? Oh, that's right.
16. NANarrator
  Christmas Eve.
17. JRJoe Rogan
  Thank you, Jamie. Christmas Eve of 2009, and here we are, 2022, and we're about to go into civil war, total anarchy.
18. NANarrator
  (laughs)
19. JRJoe Rogan
  The Purge.
20. NANarrator
  (laughs)
21. JRJoe Rogan
  All the above. Everyone's losing their fucking mind. Did you see the breakout in the zoo?
22. NANarrator
  Yeah.
23. JRJoe Rogan
  Did you see about that?
24. NANarrator
  No. No.
25. JRJoe Rogan
  Oh my God, a bunch of chimps, they broke free and they went wild and, uh, they gunned 'em down. They gunned down... I think they gunned down three of 'em or four
0:58 – 4:18
Fursic Zoo
1. JRJoe Rogan
  of 'em. It says that, uh, insane things are happening. How do you say that word? Faruzic? Far-... Where is Faruzic?
2. NANarrator
  Faruzic, uh, let's check. Germany?
3. JRJoe Rogan
  Sounds like it, right?
4. NANarrator
  Yeah. Sweden.
5. JRJoe Rogan
  Sweden. Okay. Wow, they're pretty peaceful over there. They're gunning down chimps. So it says, uh, insane things are happening at the Faruzic Zoo. Four chimpanzees gunned down after a breakout, and a fifth shot but only wounded. Three more on the loose. Drones are used to survey the besieged zoo. After 24-plus hours, the bodies still litter the ground. Zoo says they were out of tranquilizers.
6. NANarrator
  What? Bro, fuck zoos.
7. JRJoe Rogan
  (laughs)
8. NANarrator
  Is there video of this?
9. JRJoe Rogan
  Fuck zoos.
10. NANarrator
  About to find out. Oh man, there's just like-
11. JRJoe Rogan
  I told you about that time I got super-duper high and I went to the zoo with my kids and I got really bummed out. I wrote a, a story about it.
12. NANarrator
  Mm-hmm.
13. JRJoe Rogan
  About a animal prison. It's, zoos are horrible. They're horrible. The only one who gets out of the zoo, I had that old bit about giraffes, they're the only ones that seem to have a good day. They're like, "Another day with no lions."
14. NANarrator
  (laughs)
15. JRJoe Rogan
  They just, they don't give a fuck. They're happy to be in the zoo. They have zero problems with the zoo. No one's trying to kill them. They just eat and they're the only animals that they let babies feed 'em. When my daughters were little, like, they, they could take a piece of, like, little tiny, you'd hold 'em, they'd hold a piece of lettuce out and this giant giraffe tongue comes out and wraps around the leaf and takes it from them. And everybody laughs and you never have to worry about giraffes being cunts.
16. NANarrator
  I bet you the majority of the animals like the zoo. They don't give a shit, like giraffes. I bet they're, "Oh, we're getting fed?" I bet there's things like chimpanzees and certain animals that shou- shouldn't be in a zoo.
17. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah.
18. NANarrator
  But half the animals don't give a shit.
19. JRJoe Rogan
  I think the, the big one with lions is they don't get to kill anything. You know, that's like if someone just extracted sperm from you and you never got to have sex your whole life.
20. NANarrator
  Yeah.
21. JRJoe Rogan
  You're just like, "Ugh."
22. NANarrator
  It is weird.
23. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah, but they, that's their instinct, right? They have a built-in survival instinct to chase things and kill things. They're the clean-up crew. Whoops. They're the clean-up crew for the jungle. That's what they do. Like when something's slipping, something's not quick enough, that's, the lions are there to keep the balance. Otherwise, the deer would just overbreed, the, the, you know, all the antelopes, there'd be too many of them. They need things to kill 'em so they have this insane desire to kill things. And then when you just feed 'em meat every day, they're like, "Okay, I'll eat this, but, uh, I just wanna fucking chase something." They don't even have any room to move around. Dude, I went to, uh, I was coming home from a gig once. Actually, I don't think it was a gig. I think, couldn't have been because it was during the day, but it was, um, early days of my comedy career. I was like 21 years old and I was in Massachusetts and I was driving home and I saw this little zoo on the side of the road. Like, there was a direction to this little ass zoo. So I said, "All right, let me just, I got a little time to kill. Let me check out this little zoo." It was horrible. There was this polar bear and he was in a room that was not much bigger than this fucking studio and he was just walking around in circles. Just walking in circles like a crazy person. I was like, "Oh, no." It was just so sad. He, the, the polar bears are used to dealing with gigantic icebergs that they could walk on, frozen sheets of ice, these little ice islands, and they're, they're killing seals and they're running around
4:18 – 6:15
Polar Bears
1. JRJoe Rogan
  and they're just out there in the ocean, in the open air, and now they're in this Massachusetts little box. And it was the summer when I went there, too, so it was hot as fuck. And this poor polar bear's just wandering around in a circle. It's like, "Oh, why are we doing that?" We know what they look like. It's not like the old days before they had video, you know, where the only way you could see an animal is they had to capture it and bring it to the zoo. We fucking know what a polar bear... You don't have to go see 'em in jail for no reason. They didn't do anything wrong. They're not bad polar bears. You know, it's fucked, man.
2. NANarrator
  Have you been out to, to the view out, the zoo out here?
3. JRJoe Rogan
  No.
4. NANarrator
  Yeah.
5. JRJoe Rogan
  I don't want to.
6. NANarrator
  Yeah.
7. JRJoe Rogan
  It's probably the same shit. Where's the best zoo?
8. NANarrator
  Yeah.
9. JRJoe Rogan
  There's no... Columbus?
10. NANarrator
  Columbus, Ohio. That's right. Jack Hanna.
11. JRJoe Rogan
  All roads lead to Ohio. (laughs)
12. NANarrator
  It is the number one zoo, though. That and San Diego.
13. JRJoe Rogan
  But is it the best in terms of like the treatment of the animals?
14. NANarrator
  As far as I, I don't... Yeah, that's what I think, that why they're number one.
15. JRJoe Rogan
  Oh, well, that's...
16. NANarrator
  Jack Hanna.
17. JRJoe Rogan
  I mean, I hope they do a little bit better job, but isn't that like the prison where Ghislaine Maxwell is where you get to do yoga?
18. NANarrator
  Oh, yeah. (laughs)
19. JRJoe Rogan
  That lady doesn't wanna be out there. She wants to be out pimping. They locked her up.
20. NANarrator
  It's gonna be virtual zoos in the future.
21. JRJoe Rogan
  That would be better. It would be really better. What would be better is like you use, um, Oculus and they set up cameras where they go around these animals, maybe like with a drone or they take a cat and they put a camera on its head and it wanders around with the other cats and you get to be there in this wild way where you just, like, experience them existing. That would be dope. That would be really cool. Like, the meta... If they did the metaverse and they did... You know, like you could go to places where there's a lot of trees and just put cameras all around the trees where the lions are and you could get, like, the cameras where the lions are. They would be able to find it out and send that one through the metaverse. And you could be like on the plains of Tanzania right now, just wandering around.
22. NANarrator
  Yeah. They probably have that
6:15 – 10:44
Zoos
1. NANarrator
  already, for sure.
2. JRJoe Rogan
  I hope they do.
3. NANarrator
  Yeah.
4. JRJoe Rogan
  That should be what a zoo is, eh, especially as this stuff gets better and better and this, uh, virtual reality technology improves. There's no reason to keep these things captive like that. The only... Th- there's one argument, and that argument is conservation. They're taking endangered species and then they're, they're making sure that they have breeding populations. Like, there's a few animals that are, like, really endangered and the zoo is, like, one of the only ways they keep healthy populations of 'em. But other than that, the fuck outta here.
5. NANarrator
  Yeah. Or injured animals, a lot of them are-
6. JRJoe Rogan
  Mm-hmm.
7. NANarrator
  ... like, injured animals. Y- They can't go back into the wild, so.
8. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah. That's what it should be, like a, a large area where they can roam around and some sort of an animal rehabilitation center. It shouldn't be those little ass fucking cages. Is there any video of the chimps?
9. NANarrator
  I've been looking. I didn't see it. Just, like, of those before this incident, I haven't found anything on the inside.
10. JRJoe Rogan
  Bro. I mean, that's just horrific. The whole thing is horrific. It's just, like, it's really scary.
11. NANarrator
  Yeah.
12. JRJoe Rogan
  Imagine being, like, out there at the supermarket and your, uh, got your bags, you move into your car and you see three chimps running your way. You're like, "Oh, no."
13. NANarrator
  (laughs)
14. JRJoe Rogan
  (laughs) They must fucking hate people. They must fucking hate people.
15. NANarrator
  How did they get out? Did they figure it out?
16. JRJoe Rogan
  Did they grow out?
17. NANarrator
  Yeah, I wonder if they, like, picked a lock or something. You know what I mean?
18. JRJoe Rogan
  Could you imagine if they figured how to pick locks?
19. NANarrator
  Right.
20. JRJoe Rogan
  Oh my God, we're fucked. If they got a stick in there and the other one's moving the stick, like, I mean, they pay attention to where they turn the key-
21. NANarrator
  Mm-hmm.
22. JRJoe Rogan
  ... and they're like, "I heard a click in there." Just, if that fucking click is the key. Don't, get that thing to click. And at nighttime when no one's around, they got sticks in there and they're going in there. There's, uh, some, I guess it would be anthropologists, that are speculating that, um, some primates have moved into the Stone Age right now.
23. NANarrator
  Bro.
24. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah. So, if you think about the Stone Age with ancient primates that became people, that process is happening right now with, like, chimpanzees and orangutans.
25. NANarrator
  Mm-hmm.
26. JRJoe Rogan
  Like, does wa- ... You ever see the photo of the orangutan that spearfishes?
27. NANarrator
  No.
28. JRJoe Rogan
  D- ... It's crazy. He's hanging onto a tree with one hand and he's got a stick with the other hand and he's fucking stabbing at fish.
29. NANarrator
  Jesus.
30. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah. They're so close to us. They're just, like, a few million years away, as opposed to, like, a slug.
10:44 – 14:15
Baby Chimp
1. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah.
2. NANarrator
  That's not the same one, but-
3. JRJoe Rogan
  Oh, that's a different one.
4. NANarrator
  Yeah.
5. JRJoe Rogan
  But that's a chimp hanging out with a kid, which is, like, also quite sketch. But that's a little baby chimp. The one that that lady had-
6. NANarrator
  Oh.
7. NANarrator
  That's the one, right there.
8. JRJoe Rogan
  Oh. That, the, I think it tore her eyes out too.
9. NANarrator
  Oh my gosh.
10. JRJoe Rogan
  I think those are, um-
11. NANarrator
  Drac's.
12. JRJoe Rogan
  ... glass eyes. If, if it's not her, th- definitely t- that's, uh, the other guy that got attacked who brought a birthday cake for a chimp that he used to have. You know that story?
13. NANarrator
  Mm-hmm.
14. JRJoe Rogan
  He used to have a, a chimp that they took care of and they, they, it got to a point where he was getting dangerous and they couldn't keep him anymore, so they brought him to, like, a place where they, uh, have chimpanzees and they brought him a birthday cake. And the other chimps were furious that they didn't get a cake, 'cause chimps get really jealous, and they got out and fucked that guy up.
15. NANarrator
  Wow.
16. JRJoe Rogan
  Just tore him apart. Tore his feet off.
17. NANarrator
  That's right. Wasn't that in California, right?
18. JRJoe Rogan
  I don't know where that was. But yeah, you can't do that to them. You can't just keep them contained like that. It's fucked. It's, it's n- it's not necessary. It's like, there's ... I don't think there's a good argument for doing that. The whole argument is that people get to look at 'em. Really? That's it? You know? But there's parts of the world where their, you know, their habitat is being encroached upon, they're in danger. So then there's that argument, right? Like, maybe there should be a place where people protect 'em just in case they get to the point where, you know, they're on the verge of extinction, 'cause that would fucking suck. You know how devastating that would be to th- th- to humans, to our psyche, of w- like, where we fit in the world if ch- chimps went e- extinct?
19. NANarrator
  Mm-hmm.
20. JRJoe Rogan
  ... was like, how many chimps are there? Let's take a guess. How many chimps are there in the world?
21. NANarrator
  100,000?
22. JRJoe Rogan
  Mm, that's probably a good number. With all the zoos, it might be a little higher.
23. NANarrator
  Yeah.
24. JRJoe Rogan
  I'm gonna say 250, 250,000 chimps worldwide.
25. NANarrator
  There's probably not even a d- answer to this question. (laughs)
26. I think there's an answer. There is an answer. You guys are right.
27. JRJoe Rogan
  Are we right?
28. NANarrator
  It says between 170,000 and 300,000 chimps currently living.
29. JRJoe Rogan
  Damn son.
30. NANarrator
  In the wild.
14:15 – 16:43
Death Row
1. NANarrator
  facilities. Some 540," I, I believe, "have, were released at this, at this time."
2. Hmm.
3. This also says that. There's a lot.
4. This is really low though.
5. JRJoe Rogan
  (exhales deeply) What's the option? If you're not gonna use chimps what do you use? Horrible people?
6. NANarrator
  Yes.
7. JRJoe Rogan
  Mass murderers?
8. NANarrator
  Prisoners.
9. Prisoners.
10. Yeah, why aren't they?
11. JRJoe Rogan
  School shooters?
12. NANarrator
  Mm-hmm.
13. JRJoe Rogan
  Do you think people would, would sign off on that? You know what's interesting? They probably wouldn't. They'd probably say, "No, you can kill them, but you can't practice sh- medicine on them."
14. NANarrator
  I wonder.
15. JRJoe Rogan
  Can't put lipstick in their eyeballs-
16. NANarrator
  (laughs)
17. JRJoe Rogan
  ... and see what their re- you know, the shit they do with rabbits and stuff.
18. NANarrator
  Yeah, but if you say it to somebody and go, "Hey, instead of using animals for testing, this person is on death row," would you rather have that than killing an animal?
19. JRJoe Rogan
  What if you give them the option?
20. NANarrator
  Yeah.
21. JRJoe Rogan
  Man, that's a fucked up option.
22. NANarrator
  I wonder. I bet, I bet people would say that the prisoner on death row.
23. JRJoe Rogan
  Well, the problem is like the justice system sucks. There's a lot of people that are on death row that are a 100% innocent. That's a fact. And so, like, d- a lot of people think the death penalty in- itself is inhumane. And that, in fact, in fact, the woman who's the governor of Oregon, she just commuted, I believe it was 17 people that were on death row. And if, if one of those is innocent, I support it. You know, it's the most fucked up thing ever if like someone killed your loved one and, and they're on death row. But what if they didn't? And what if they're accused of it? And then they wind up getting killed? I mean, it's like the system is so bad, and through the podcast that I've done with Josh Dubin, who, uh, he used to work with the Innocence Project. Now, he does a, a lot of different programs along the same lines, though, where it's like he's trying to get people out of jail that are clearly innocent, and prosecutors, man. There's a lot of good ones out there. There's a lot of good people that are prosecutors, no doubt. But there's also prosecutors that hide evidence. They, um, they withhold evidence that would exonerate people. They prosecute people they know are innocent. They railroad people. They keep people from being able to bring f- certain things up in, in trials. And, you know, you find out later that they knew all along. They just, they had this guy, he was in the system, he was being tried, and they never wanna say, "Hey, we fucked up." So instead of saying, "Hey, we fucked up," they hide all the evidence that they fucked up. It's not all, again, it's not all prosecutors, but it's enough that the death penalty itself is very questionable.
16:43 – 19:39
Drug Testing
1. JRJoe Rogan
2. NANarrator
  I found, I'm digging through this. In 1979, I found a... What is this from? Um, an article in Corrections magazine it says that, uh, 85%, a few years ago, 85% of all drug testing was done in prisons. Now, it's down to 15%.
3. JRJoe Rogan
  All drug testing?
4. NANarrator
  As of right now, it's illegal in California and plenty of other places too.
5. JRJoe Rogan
  Do drug test people in prison?
6. NANarrator
  Correct.
7. JRJoe Rogan
  It's also illegal to ask them if they have a penis.
8. NANarrator
  (laughs)
9. JRJoe Rogan
  Right? (laughs) Which is a little strange.
10. NANarrator
  (laughs)
11. JRJoe Rogan
  A little strange. I mean, uh, I'm all for people being able to express themselves and live however they want. However, there was a story that I was reading, I think I sent you this too, Jamie, um, about this article that was talking about this woman that, um, brutally murdered and raped, this woman, and about how, how unusual it is for a woman to brutally rape and murder another woman. Well, it turns out it's not a woman, it's a trans woman.
12. NANarrator
  Mm.
13. JRJoe Rogan
  But they have to call it a woman, so they're saying it's a woman. Like so there's people that are phrasing it in this woke speak. If you wanna define what, you know, like what, 'cause woke is hard to define. People know, kinda know what it is, like, "Oh, I fucking hate all this woke shit." But what, what does that mean? Like what are you saying? And when you ask people to define it, it does get a little squirrely. It's like, "Oh, I didn't think about defining this, it's just sort of a thing that I know," and one of the things has to do with gender. Because that, that was one, that's one of the biggest cultural changes over the last 10 years. But that one is bananas that they would phrase it that way. That they would say, "A woman."... no, it was his ex-g... That was his ex-girlfriend that he killed, that he murdered and raped.
14. NANarrator
  Right.
15. JRJoe Rogan
  He, he was a, a man at the time. He was dating her. Like, to say, "Oh, it's so unusual for a woman to do that," it's like, what kind of game are we playing where you're talking about crime?
16. NANarrator
  (laughs)
17. JRJoe Rogan
  And like that person that went to, uh, jail and, uh, said he was a woman and started banging all the, the inmates and got two of them pregnant, that person brutally murdered his mother with a knife. It's a horrible story. The, the, the, the cops that came to the scene said it was one of the most horrific things they had ever seen. Stabbed her from her face down to her, fuck, the bottom of her legs, just, you know, incalculable number of stab wounds probably. But you could say you're a woman and all of a sudden you're in a women's prison. And then there's, like, all these people that, like, have created a website, like, "Get her out. She's, she's not supposed to be there. Let her express the gender of her, you know, preference." I'm like, this is bananas. Like, you, you guys are out of your fucking mind.
18. NANarrator
  There has to be a birth
19:39 – 21:16
Sex
1. NANarrator
  sex on your, uh, future ID, so you have your sex, female, and then your birth sex, like a male or something like that.
2. JRJoe Rogan
  Well, that would make sense, but none of this makes sense.
3. NANarrator
  Right.
4. JRJoe Rogan
  They would say, "Who is the doctor to tell you what your sex is?"
5. NANarrator
  (laughs)
6. JRJoe Rogan
  Well, it used to be just gender, but now-
7. NANarrator
  Right.
8. JRJoe Rogan
  ... there's, they're equating sex and gender, right? Like, so when, when that Rachel Levine person became the first, uh, female admiral, they were saying, they were, they were saying female. They weren't just saying woman. They were saying female, as in like, like, d- d- d- x, x distinction in the chromosomes. Like, listen, I know... It's good to be kind to people. It's good to be nice. It's good to, like... I want you to be whoever you wanna be, express yourself however. I love you, but what are we doing? We're, we're, we're in this fucking squirrely lunatic category. Somebody has a great fucking bit that Bill Burr sent me. Let's blow this cat up. I don't know this dude, but, uh, this bit is very funny. I'll find it right here, where he... It's, it's going around, Jamie. Maybe you've seen it. It's a comedian who says he's all for... I'll send... I don't wanna fuck it up. Here, I'll send it to you, Jamie. Hold on one second. Hmm. Give me one second. Here we go. Here... Share. Jamie. Bam. Um, it's just... I get where it comes from. I get that people want to let people feel free to be whoever they want. But at the same time, it's like, what... At what cost to all the other people, you know?
9. NANarrator
  It's getting absurd. It's, it's insane. They're gonna have to have a separate jail just for,
21:16 – 23:28
Transphobia
1. NANarrator
  like, the in-betweens or something.
2. JRJoe Rogan
  Play this guy's things. Here it goes.
3. NANarrator
  Derrick Lengwenus. I don't know how to say that one.
4. JRJoe Rogan
  Derrick Lengwenus. Is that it? Say that... Let me, let me see it again, please. Derrick Lengwenus. It's spelled D-E-R-R-I-C-K L-E-N-G-W-E-N-U-S on Instagram.
5. NANarrator
  Uh, trans women competing in women's sporting events.
6. NANarrator
  (laughs)
7. NANarrator
  As long as I'm allowed to bet.
8. NANarrator
  (laughs) (clapping)
9. NANarrator
  Yes, I would like to put all my money on the lady with the size 11 sneaker, please.
10. JRJoe Rogan
  (laughs)
11. NANarrator
  (laughs)
12. JRJoe Rogan
  It's a great tune.
13. NANarrator
  I've got a feeling about her.
14. JRJoe Rogan
  (laughs)
15. NANarrator
  (laughs)
16. JRJoe Rogan
  Now-
17. NANarrator
  That's great.
18. JRJoe Rogan
  And then this is how squirrely the world's gotten, is there's people that'll say that that's transphobic, that that bit is transphobic, because people want no criticism, and that's part of the problem, you know? It's like, uh, what we were talking earlier about, like, what's going on on Twitter right now. There's a lot of people that don't want any criticism. People have opinions. They, they just do. You can't stop them. You can't change their opinions, you know? You could just be you. You gotta be you. But some people are just not good at it. They're not good at h-... And as a group, if you've achieved protected status, like a lot of people, they feel like, um, they, they categorize trans people in a protected class because they've been maligned and because they've been discriminated against. Now they're in a superposition, you know, like some quantum physics shit, where you can't even-
19. NANarrator
  (laughs)
20. JRJoe Rogan
  ... you can't even criticize them, even if they're murderers.
21. NANarrator
  Mm-hmm.
22. JRJoe Rogan
  Even if they've, uh, brutally raped and murdered their ex-girlfriend, you still have to call them a woman. Even if they were a man at the time, still it's a woman. It's very rare for a woman to do this. Is it?
23. NANarrator
  (laughs)
24. JRJoe Rogan
  Is it also rare for a woman to have a dick?
25. NANarrator
  (laughs)
26. JRJoe Rogan
  Because what are we doing? What, what the fuck are we doing? But it's not anymore, you know? So there we are. Hmm.
27. NANarrator
  I can't
23:28 – 26:33
Men vs Women
1. NANarrator
  even imagine what the world's gonna be like in 40 years.
2. JRJoe Rogan
  How about five?
3. NANarrator
  Five years. (laughs)
4. JRJoe Rogan
  Five years.
5. NANarrator
  (laughs)
6. JRJoe Rogan
  Who would have thought this, that everything... Like, the Lia Thomas thing with swimming, who would have thought that that's, like, the number one female swimmer actually has a penis and supposedly has sex with women? Okay. What are we doing? Like, imagine if you're a girl and you worked so hard to get a scholarship and, you know, you're, you're born, you didn't go through puberty with male levels of testosterone. Here's something that I found out the other day when, uh... We talked about this already, sorry, where James Cameron was saying that testosterone is a toxin that needs to be released from men's bodies. Women have more testosterone than they have estrogen.
7. NANarrator
  Mm-hmm.
8. JRJoe Rogan
  Did you know that?
9. NANarrator
  Yeah, I just found out that recently.
10. JRJoe Rogan
  I found out from, uh, Rob Wolf. I didn't know that.
11. NANarrator
  Yeah.
12. JRJoe Rogan
  They... Like, that's their primary hormone.
13. NANarrator
  And I have more estrogen than women. (laughs)
14. JRJoe Rogan
  That's what I heard. So you're, you are the most healthy un- healthy person I've ever met. When you got your blood work done, I was like, "Huh-
15. NANarrator
  (laughs)
16. JRJoe Rogan
  He's gonna be okay. (laughs)
17. NANarrator
  You've been telling me I have, am high on estrogen forever. Like, you know, we made jokes about me eating too much edamame or-
18. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah. (laughs)
19. NANarrator
  ... stuff like. W- when, when I, when I got my first blood work, when I first went, uh, to the T place, they were like, "Wow, you got very low testosterone. You're, you're at 240 I think it was, 230? Uh, and, but your estrogen levels are s- some of the highest I've ever seen." He's like, "We gotta keep an eye on that, 'cause that might be dangerous." And I'm like, "What?"
20. JRJoe Rogan
  Told you.
21. NANarrator
  And, yeah. (laughs)
22. JRJoe Rogan
  I smell it.
23. NANarrator
  (laughs)
24. JRJoe Rogan
  I can smell it, I think.
25. NANarrator
  So I just got my, my, my s- my six-week blood checked again, my estrogen levels have actually gone up. And, like, since last time, um, I have so much T in me now. I'm like super high in T but I can't feel any, any of it because the estrogen's f- uh, going against the T.
26. JRJoe Rogan
  Mm.
27. NANarrator
  So I have to take this.
28. JRJoe Rogan
  How much, how much are you committed to being healthy?
29. NANarrator
  Well, first-
30. JRJoe Rogan
  Sort of minimally committed? Like a guy who plays golf once a month?
26:33 – 27:49
Old Movies
1. JRJoe Rogan
  How about someone with a chromosomal disorder?
2. NANarrator
  Yeah.
3. JRJoe Rogan
  You know?
4. NANarrator
  Yeah.
5. JRJoe Rogan
  I saw a T-shirt that was from 1982 that was like, "Run for the retarded," and it was, like, an actual charity.
6. NANarrator
  His golf is called swinging.
7. JRJoe Rogan
  Oh, it was golf. That's what it was.
8. NANarrator
  Yeah, I saw the same shirt.
9. JRJoe Rogan
  What?
10. NANarrator
  (laughs) I'll pull it up.
11. JRJoe Rogan
  Like, that's how they used to just refer to things.
12. NANarrator
  (laughs) I know another T-shirt. (laughs)
13. JRJoe Rogan
  (laughs) I'm sure you know a bunch of T-shirts.
14. NANarrator
  I remember that T-shirt.
15. JRJoe Rogan
  Which one?
16. NANarrator
  (laughs) Uh. Oh. (laughs)
17. JRJoe Rogan
  Oh yeah. This, like, look man, there's a lot of shit from not that long ago-
18. NANarrator
  Yeah. (laughs)
19. JRJoe Rogan
  ... you can get-
20. NANarrator
  It's so ridiculous.
21. JRJoe Rogan
  ... in real trouble for.
22. NANarrator
  Mm. Yeah. It is. And just watching old movies, like they still talk, you know, they talk-
23. JRJoe Rogan
  Oh, yeah.
24. NANarrator
  ... and you're like, "Holy shit, they just said that."
25. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah. Well re- if you go watch old comedies from, like, the '90s, like I tried to watch Superbad the other day, un- unfortunately, I tried ... it was, wasn't the other day, it was a while ago, but I was trying to watch it with my kids. And I realized, like, five minutes in, like there's no fucking way-
26. NANarrator
  (laughs)
27. JRJoe Rogan
  ... a 12-year-old should be watching this.
28. NANarrator
  No.
29. JRJoe Rogan
  I'm like, "Stop." Err. I paused. I'm like, "Okay, we can't watch this."
30. NANarrator
  Yeah, that's a dirty movie.
27:49 – 30:26
Tropic Thunder
1. JRJoe Rogan
2. NANarrator
  2000.
3. JRJoe Rogan
  That might've been the last of the great over the top, fucked up hilarious movies that you could never make today. That and Tropic Thunder.
4. NANarrator
  Tropic Thunder. Man, I just watched that inter- re-watched that interview that you had with them.
5. JRJoe Rogan
  (laughs)
6. NANarrator
  Uh, yeah, that, that, that's still amazing that you can still rent it, you know? Like I'm surprised-
7. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah. (laughs)
8. NANarrator
  ... it's ... That and, like, Soul Man. Like I, I'm surprised.
9. JRJoe Rogan
  Yes.
10. NANarrator
  I saw, saw that the other day you could still rent that. Like what the heck?
11. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah. When does that become a problem?
12. NANarrator
  (laughs)
13. JRJoe Rogan
  Do people ... 'Cause, you know, people will probably ... I mean, they're already, you know, doing things like getting rid of certain books that have, like, fucked up language in it. Like, they got rid of, I think it was Huckleberry Finn 'cause it had the N-word in it, and they r- removed that from certain libraries.
14. NANarrator
  Mm-hmm. Pixar's going in and editing parts out of their movies already because of, of things. And-
15. JRJoe Rogan
  Really?
16. NANarrator
  Yeah, there's a, a Toy-
17. JRJoe Rogan
  Pixar?
18. NANarrator
  Yeah, there's Toy Story, and the guy that plays Frasier, uh, he's, like, flirting creepily with, uh, the two Barbie girls.
19. JRJoe Rogan
  Oh, wow.
20. NANarrator
  And it, it's, like, really scummy. Uh, and they cut that out.
21. JRJoe Rogan
  How about Le- Pepé Le Pew?
22. NANarrator
  Oh, Pepé Le Pew.
23. JRJoe Rogan
  Pepé Le Pew was a rapist skunk.
24. NANarrator
  Right.
25. JRJoe Rogan
  He was, he was a groper.
26. NANarrator
  Mm-hmm.
27. JRJoe Rogan
  He was a total sexual harasser. Like, he didn't take no for an answer ever.
28. NANarrator
  Speedy Gonzales?
29. JRJoe Rogan
  No. What did he do?
30. NANarrator
  He's, they just, uh, it's just like-
30:26 – 31:19
Mariachis
1. JRJoe Rogan
  are the shit. (laughs)
2. NANarrator
  Mm-hmm.
3. JRJoe Rogan
  Plus, whenever a fighter fights, uh, a Mexican fighter ... Like we went to see Canelo Alvarez fight Triple G, it was awesome 'cause they had a mariachi band, a full mariachi band. And they came out, and they played the ... Whenever a Mexican fighter fights, they kinda have to-... have mariachi music.
4. NANarrator
  Mm-hmm.
5. JRJoe Rogan
  Right?
6. NANarrator
  Mm-hmm.
7. JRJoe Rogan
  They kinda do, right? I mean, you- you- you're not gonna see a- a Mexican fighter coming out to Slayer.
8. NANarrator
  (laughs)
9. JRJoe Rogan
  Right? (laughs)
10. NANarrator
  (laughs) Yeah.
11. JRJoe Rogan
  They kinda like... A lot of Mexican fighters, like, in, uh, particularly in boxing, they come out to that mariachi music, man, and everybody goes-
12. NANarrator
  Do, do, do, do, do.
13. JRJoe Rogan
  ... nuts. They go nuts. They were, um, singing along to it. It was fucking dope. Seeing a, uh, seeing a Canelo fight where it's all Canelo's fans, and you get to see, like, in- in the person, in the flesh, and hearing them all singing to this song that you don't even know, it's pretty wild.
31:19 – 34:32
Restaurant
1. NANarrator
  Speaking of Mexican, did you hear what happened at El Compadre in, in, uh, Los Angeles, the restaurant?
2. JRJoe Rogan
  Did they get busted for selling coke?
3. NANarrator
  No, something crazier.
4. JRJoe Rogan
  (laughs)
5. NANarrator
  There was a, uh, uh, uh-
6. JRJoe Rogan
  I just guessed that, by the way. I was just... I'm joking.
7. NANarrator
  (laughs) I mean, that's where Lindsay Loh- Lohan used to get it, allegedly. (laughs)
8. JRJoe Rogan
  Allegedly?
9. NANarrator
  But, uh, no, uh, supposedly there was a guy there with his boyfriend, and he's an actor, and the managers, uh, came up to him and yelled at him saying, "You're not allowed to kiss." I guess they were kissing. They had a kiss on the lips.
10. JRJoe Rogan
  What?
11. NANarrator
  And said, "You... You're not allowed to do this here."
12. JRJoe Rogan
  "Actor claimed he was scolded for kissing his date." Really? In fucking LA?
13. NANarrator
  Yeah. (laughs)
14. JRJoe Rogan
  What? "Last night, El Compadre Echo Park, I was reprimanded by a manager for kissing another man at 6:30 PM in the middle of our second drink." That's usually when the kissing starts.
15. NANarrator
  (laughs) Yeah.
16. JRJoe Rogan
  What's up? Told, uh, "This is a family restaurant, and we don't allow that behavior here. We will never be back. I encourage you all to find another place to." Um...
17. NANarrator
  Y- y- you should read what the manager said. There's more to it, like, below this, uh... No. No, I mean on the-
18. JRJoe Rogan
  Did the manager respond or is it his version of what the manager said?
19. NANarrator
  It's more of what happened. I guess they interviewed, uh, uh...
20. JRJoe Rogan
  Other people?
21. NANarrator
  No, they interviewed the guy more, like that's just a, uh, a tweet.
22. JRJoe Rogan
  Right.
23. NANarrator
  Where the heck did it go?
24. JRJoe Rogan
  I mean, it's hard to say, right?
25. NANarrator
  Uh-huh.
26. JRJoe Rogan
  He said, "He threw his hands in front of us and said, 'I don't care if you're the president of the United States, we don't allow your behavior here.'" Uh, since the post went viral, El Compadre said in a statement below, "The now fired manager went against the restaurant's core values. We have been in business for almost 50 years. We accept, appreciate, and value every customer that walks through our doors, and this behavior will never be tolerated in our establishment," the restaurant said in part on social media. "We do believe El Compadre to be a family restaurant, and coming into our restaurant is like coming into our home. In our home, we believe in love and equality, and the fact that one of our employees made someone feel unsafe is not acceptable to us."
27. NANarrator
  (laughs)
28. JRJoe Rogan
  That's a good answer.
29. NANarrator
  Yeah.
30. JRJoe Rogan
  It's kinda fucked up if that's all they did is kiss each other.
34:32 – 35:35
Hollywood
1. JRJoe Rogan
  yeah. That- that place was great.
2. NANarrator
  Mm-hmm.
3. JRJoe Rogan
  You'd get a real meal at like 1:00 in the morning, like steak and salad, and it was great food. That place was so weird. I remember the first time I went there, I don't remember what year it was, but it was early on, uh, I walked in there, and I was in the lobby, and there was a girl who was in a fish tank behind the managers and the- the- the front desk people just reading a book in her underwear.
4. NANarrator
  Mm-hmm. I knew a girl that had that job. She- (laughs)
5. JRJoe Rogan
  It's the weirdest thing. They're not supposed to interact with the people, it's supposed to be like a voyeur-type art piece. So this girl is in her underwear and she's really cute, and, uh, you know, you're looking at her legs and her butt, and she's just reading a book with like her feet up in the air on her stomach, just sitting there reading this book, and you're like, "Whoa, LA really is like this."
6. NANarrator
  (laughs)
7. JRJoe Rogan
  (laughs)
8. NANarrator
  (laughs)
9. JRJoe Rogan
  When you come from somewhere else and you just get to LA and you see shit like that, you're like, "Oh my God, this is real."
10. NANarrator
  (laughs)
11. JRJoe Rogan
  There's been a few times where I've been in LA where I was like, "Oh, this is like the real Hollywood."
12. NANarrator
  Yeah.
13. JRJoe Rogan
  You know?
35:35 – 36:40
Baby Lions
1. NANarrator
  I- I went to a party and they had baby lions there or baby tigers.
2. JRJoe Rogan
  (laughs)
3. NANarrator
  I was like, "How the fuck is this possible?" Like, where the fuck are these tigers coming from? And you would just go in this room and you were allowed to pet the tigers and, and stuff like that.
4. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah, there's... Up in those Hollywood Hills and in Beverly Hills, and like when all the- those really crazy people get together, there's real, like, h- the stuff that you hear, it's like real. That's real. You know? When you see those Bryan Singer parties where he has like 100 boys in a fucking pool-
5. NANarrator
  (laughs)
6. JRJoe Rogan
  ... with red lights and everybody's partying, and you're like, "Jesus." This is what, what people think of when they think of, like, Holly- Hollywood debauchery.
7. NANarrator
  Yeah. I miss it but I don't miss it. It's not that- that I wouldn't... I miss stuff, stuff like that.
8. JRJoe Rogan
  I miss... I missed it, but I went through it. I- I got it, I get it.
9. NANarrator
  (laughs)
10. JRJoe Rogan
  Took it all in.
11. NANarrator
  Yep.
12. JRJoe Rogan
  You know? You don't wanna be in the sun all day long. (laughs)
13. NANarrator
  Right.
14. JRJoe Rogan
  Go to get a little sun, then go inside and cool off. It's like you're- you're living your whole life in LA, I think it's bad for the psyche. There's no weather, everyone's trying to get famous, and you're also... You're- you're dealing with these strange
36:40 – 38:51
Dave Chappelle
1. JRJoe Rogan
  people. I went to this, uh, bizarre party once in the Hollywood Hills with Chappelle.... we're hanging out at the store. And, uh, we both did sets and then, uh, Dave's like, "You wanna go to this party with me?" I go, "What? What is it?" And then he's like, "It's Naomi Campbell's birthday."
2. NANarrator
  (laughs)
3. JRJoe Rogan
  And I said, "Oh, man, I fucking hate those things." He went, "Oh, Joe, come on. Come- come with me, let's have a good time." We were high as fuck too. And, uh, so we go up to this party. And, uh, we get on an elevator with Demi Moore, and we're going up the side of this, m- hill. They have a outdoor elevator, like you're standing on this elevator and it's (imitates elevator) takes you up. And there's Demi Moore is there, and Lenny Kravitz is there, and Naomi Campbell. And Naomi Campbell's posing, and there's like hundreds of photographers. Like, not hundreds, I'm lying, 10.
4. NANarrator
  Mm-hmm.
5. JRJoe Rogan
  10, you know, a lot. Uh, lights, like real ones (imitates camera shuttering) . And she's like posing, and she looks, she looks amazing. And, oh, as you're going up the hill, there's a photograph of her and it's like 30 feet tall and it's naked. It's a naked photograph of Naomi Campbell that they put on the side of this hill, on the side of this building that's on this hill.
6. NANarrator
  (laughs)
7. JRJoe Rogan
  It's- it's wild. It's like a total Eyes Wide Shut party.
8. NANarrator
  (laughs)
9. JRJoe Rogan
  And we're there, and we're hanging out. And, uh, I said to Dave, I'm like, "This is crazy. I mean, this is so bizarre." He goes, "Man, I never wanna be that famous." I go, "Hey, motherfucker-"
10. NANarrator
  (laughs)
11. JRJoe Rogan
  "... you're the most famous person here."
12. NANarrator
  Yeah, you're more famous. (laughs)
13. JRJoe Rogan
  And he goes, "Really?" I go, "Yeah, really." (laughs)
14. NANarrator
  (laughs)
15. JRJoe Rogan
  I don't think Dave... I don't think Dave thinks about that much-
16. NANarrator
  Yeah.
17. JRJoe Rogan
  ... which is why he can be Dave. You know, he just exists in this like cool zone of just, uh, being funny and writing better standup and getting up there and killing. So, like, him there was, was... The whole thing was so odd. But met a bunch of cool people though. Lenny Kravitz is very cool. So, like, a lot of those people when they're around other famous people, they're super normal. They're like, "Oh, you're just a person who just happened to get famous," you know? And now you're fucked, because you can't really just be, can't just really go places. Everybody weirds out when they see you, so they all get together and weird out together.
18. NANarrator
  (laughs)
19. JRJoe Rogan
  (laughs)
20. NANarrator
  Oh.
21. JRJoe Rogan
  You know, it's fucking... It's a little bit of a
38:51 – 41:38
Brad Pitt
1. JRJoe Rogan
  prison of its own.
2. NANarrator
  Did you ever, did you ever meet Brad Pitt?
3. JRJoe Rogan
  Mm-mm. I'd like to, though.
4. NANarrator
  Yeah.
5. JRJoe Rogan
  I think he's probably pretty cool.
6. NANarrator
  Yeah.
7. JRJoe Rogan
  By all accounts, you know. H- you know he's got that thing where he can't recognize faces?
8. NANarrator
  Yeah.
9. JRJoe Rogan
  Isn't that bizarre?
10. NANarrator
  It is bizarre.
11. JRJoe Rogan
  Imagine what that is, like, "What is that?" Imagine not even knowing you had it, just thinking you're fucked. Like, "Why is everybody so friendly?" And, and to... I don't even know who the fuck anybody is.
12. NANarrator
  (laughs)
13. JRJoe Rogan
  (laughs) You have to recognize people by the way they move and the, the noises they make. And then when everybody else starts talking about faces, you're like, "What faces?" You recognize faces?
14. NANarrator
  (laughs)
15. JRJoe Rogan
  Like, imagine when you first find out you're color-blind. Like, little kids don't know they're color-blind. It probably takes a while, you know.
16. NANarrator
  How would, how would you even know?
17. JRJoe Rogan
  I guess, like, someone says, "Pick the red one." And you're like, "Huh?"
18. NANarrator
  Yeah, but wouldn't the red one still be, like, what you think red is? You know what I mean? Like, it would be-
19. JRJoe Rogan
  Right. Well, that could be the case anyway, right?
20. NANarrator
  Right.
21. JRJoe Rogan
  I mean, I think you're wearing a blue spacesuit.
22. NANarrator
  This is red, dude.
23. JRJoe Rogan
  Blah. But what is blue?
24. NANarrator
  Right.
25. JRJoe Rogan
  Like, my... You know. My daughter brought that up the other day which is hilarious when like a 14-year-old thinks about things like that for the first time.
26. NANarrator
  (laughs) Deep.
27. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah, she sounds like a stoner. She's like, she's like, "Okay, I have red nails, but how do I know that you see red the way I see red?" And I go, "Well, we really don't. That's just kinda guessing."
28. NANarrator
  Right.
29. JRJoe Rogan
  Which makes sense, right? Because, like, food tastes so different to other people. Like, some people love spicy food. Some people hate it. Some people love, like, really rich flavors, like Indian cuisine. Some people hate it. Like, what are they feel... What are they tasting? Is it-
30. NANarrator
  Yeah.
41:38 – 44:12
Food
1. JRJoe Rogan
  a kid that way, you know.
2. NANarrator
  Is there any food that you can't stand, like everything, you won't even- even try?
3. JRJoe Rogan
  No, I have a pretty wide palate. I like food. I mean, there's food that I, that doesn't agree with me-
4. NANarrator
  Right.
5. JRJoe Rogan
  ... but I love it.
6. NANarrator
  Right.
7. JRJoe Rogan
  You know, like pasta.
8. NANarrator
  (laughs)
9. JRJoe Rogan
  That's the big one. Pasta does not agree. I get a fat gut and I get distended. Ugh, I just look bloated. I feel terrible, but I love it when it's going down the hatch.
10. NANarrator
  When did that start? You always had that? No.
11. JRJoe Rogan
  (sighs) I don't know. 'Cause I think I- I've always been a glutton, which is a problem. It's not like I'm eating a little bit of pasta. I'm- I have a problem with eating too... I just... Like, I've been trying to stop now, where then I g- I'm like, "I'm not hungry anymore. Stop eating." But before, I would just keep going.
12. NANarrator
  Mm-hmm.
13. JRJoe Rogan
  Just... I wanted to be like (groans) like that's what I wanted to feel. I wanted to feel (groans) just fucking stuffed. Which is a dumb thing. You really shouldn't ever be that... Unless you're... This is the only time you get to eat, you know, 'cause you're a hunter-gatherer and then like, "Finally, we found food. I haven't eaten in days." You're really not supposed to be stuffed.
14. NANarrator
  Yeah, and I, uh, I think, at least I grew up always thinking you wanted to get stuffed, that it's when you got to the-
15. JRJoe Rogan
  Right.
16. NANarrator
  ... end of eating. You know what I mean? (laughs)
17. JRJoe Rogan
  Yes, clean your plate.
18. NANarrator
  Yeah. I think it's parents again.
19. JRJoe Rogan
  Oh, well, they would get... Well, you know, if you think parents... Grew up with parents that were in the Depression-... which, uh, my parents grew up with my grandparents who, they grew up during The Depression. Like, my grandmother left, like, little coffee cans filled with money tucked away, squirreled away in little holes in the house, and they, they found all this stuff, like, after she died they, they were, like, cleaning things up and they found, like, money that she had squirreled away-
20. NANarrator
  Wow.
21. JRJoe Rogan
  ... 'cause they were always thinking that the banks were gonna fail and that, uh, they were in a real fear of starving to death. We, we are so fucking spoiled. So, they went from starving and, you know, not knowing where your next meal was coming from to finally things turn around, everything is, and then they raise kids, and then they're raising kids that are growing up, you know, during the '60s and, you know, things are much, much better. And then these kids have kids and they just do the same thing their parents taught them. "Clean your fucking plate. You gotta eat it all. All of it. You're not gonna waste food in my house." Like, "Oh, why'd you give me so much?" (laughs)
22. NANarrator
  Yeah, exactly. (laughs)
23. NANarrator
  It's your fault.
24. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah, well it's-
25. NANarrator
  (laughs)
26. JRJoe Rogan
  ... but everybody was happy that they could give people their fill, you know? It's like there was this famine mentality and then it was replaced with this just, uh, glutton mentality for, for some people. You know, and if you grow up like that, you know, it's
44:12 – 46:12
Food in Italy
1. JRJoe Rogan
  fucking hard to kick that thing in your head. If you have, like, an Italian family? Oh my God. They fu-... My grandmother would stuff you.
2. NANarrator
  Mm-hmm.
3. JRJoe Rogan
  She would stuff you. She was always making this pot, big plates of lasagna and ho-, she would make pasta on the kitchen table. It was wild to watch. She would throw the flour on and roll the fucking dough-
4. NANarrator
  Oh, nice.
5. JRJoe Rogan
  ... and cut the pasta and boil it. It was sensational. It was the best pasta you have ever had. She'd make her sauce from tomatoes my grandfather grew in the garden. She didn't fuck with anything from the store. She got the least amount of shit she could get from the store, like flour, and it's like, "Nah." Probably didn't even want the flour. (laughs)
6. NANarrator
  (laughs)
7. NANarrator
  (laughs)
8. JRJoe Rogan
  She wanted... She, and she would do everything, everything was homemade. The whole thing was homemade. It was amazing. They would buy bread from this place that had been selling bread for, like, who knows how many fucking years? 100 years or something. They would walk in their neighborhood down to this, uh, Italian bakery every day and get a loaf of bread. That was, like, a thing people did. They'd meet there. They'd talk shit. You know the, "Ah, ah." They all talk Italian. They go back, bring their bread, and they just dip it in the pasta sauce and those fucking people, man. When they finally got food, they, they made, like, filling food. You know, like, the Italians in particular, like, that came to America, their food is different than the Italians in Italy. Like, all, like, the things that we think of as Italian food, like spaghetti and lasagna and meatballs and stuff like that, spaghetti with red sauce with meatballs, they don't have that over there. Grated cheese all over it and shit. They don't have that over there. It's like everything over there is like, uh, the pasta's much more consumable for whatever reason. It doesn't fuck with your digestive system because of the different wheat they use, but also the portions are smaller and it's a long process. They sit down for a long meal and people are drinking wine and enjoying themselves 'cause they, they didn't go to, eh, America. They didn't, they weren't the wild motherfuckers that took that trip and took a chance and went across the road, or went across the ocean rather before they invented film. Like, you, you couldn't even see a video of what America looked like back then.
46:12 – 47:47
When Italians came to America
1. JRJoe Rogan
  When'd they start coming over here? Like, when did Italians start making their way over here? It was probably, like, the end of the 19th century if I had to guess. My grandparents came over here in the beginning of the 20th century.
2. NANarrator
  Hmm.
3. JRJoe Rogan
  It's like, "Oh, man. We're so lucky we're living now." This is a so much better time to live.
4. NANarrator
  But kind of not. (laughs)
5. NANarrator
  (laughs)
6. JRJoe Rogan
  (laughs)
7. NANarrator
  I kinda wanna go back to the 1900s. (laughs)
8. JRJoe Rogan
  I don't wanna go back to that time. I don't wanna... I like it now. I have, I, I think I have a healthy perspective on what, what it's like to live in 2022. There's problems that we have that are very unique, but I think every single generation, the generation that had the car, like, all of a sudden you could drive everywhere, like, the, the generation that, where they developed the printing press, like, "Oh my God. We're reading things?" Do you know what most books were when they first invented books?
9. NANarrator
  Hmm.
10. JRJoe Rogan
  You, you think of, like, "Oh, they wrote knowledge down and this is how they, you know, wrote history and documented things for future generations." Nope. It's, like, how to spot a witch.
11. NANarrator
  Yeah. (laughs)
12. JRJoe Rogan
  It's like (laughs) -
13. NANarrator
  (laughs)
14. JRJoe Rogan
  ... it was like those kind of books that probably led to so many people killing people because they thought they were witches.
15. NANarrator
  Mm-hmm.
16. JRJoe Rogan
  Like, they were, it's stupid shit, because you think most of the people back then were not educated at all. Like, m-, uh, a lot of people probably couldn't read, so when books finally came around and people started reading, you're dealing with people that are, like, super unsophisticated, probably a lot of them, very superstitious. Uh, they really believed in that kinda stuff.
47:47 – 49:38
People against books
1. NANarrator
  I wonder if there was people against books when they came out.
2. JRJoe Rogan
  Oh, yeah.
3. NANarrator
  Like, "They're teaching the devil." (laughs)
4. JRJoe Rogan
  100%. Always. There were, there, there was definitely people that were upset about the printing press. They thought the printing press was gonna fuck everything up and that books should be written in, like, a s-, well, like, a fucking feather, quill, you know, an elegant handwriting. If you go, just go back and look at the way they used to write, where all their letters were perfect. They were all the same height and it was beautiful to look at. Like, if you look at the way I write my notes, I'm, I fucking have deteriorated.
5. NANarrator
  (laughs)
6. JRJoe Rogan
  Like, we have completely regressed.
7. NANarrator
  Yeah.
8. JRJoe Rogan
  They don't even teach cursive anymore in most schools.
9. NANarrator
  Yeah. My mom still writes me cursive letters and I can't any-, I, like, I've almost not been able to read half of the letter now 'cause I'm like, "I don't remember how to read this." (laughs) Really?
10. JRJoe Rogan
  (laughs) Well-
11. NANarrator
  'Cause when's the last time you read cursive? It's-
12. JRJoe Rogan
  One thing about cursive is that AI doesn't read cursive.
13. NANarrator
  Yeah.
14. JRJoe Rogan
  So if you wanna talk shit on Instagram-
15. NANarrator
  Mm-hmm.
16. JRJoe Rogan
  ... make a post and put it in cursive-
17. NANarrator
  (laughs)
18. JRJoe Rogan
  ... and then take a photo of that thing and then post that.
19. NANarrator
  Wow.
20. JRJoe Rogan
  And that way it won't flag all your shit talking. All the things that, like, there's certain words that get flagged.
21. NANarrator
  Mm-hmm.
22. JRJoe Rogan
  You know?
23. NANarrator
  Yeah. I, I, I fuck around with AI a lot. Uh, I use it all the time and you're not, you know, it flags certain things, so you have to be really creative. Instead of, like, a woman's breast you gotta be, like, uh, you know, Victoria's Secret. You have to, like, use all these words that, like, try to get, to her to have-
24. JRJoe Rogan
  Hmm.
25. NANarrator
  ... good boobs and stuff.
26. JRJoe Rogan
  But then how do they do all those dirty ones? Like, I've seen Joey Diaz with giant dicks and-
27. NANarrator
  Yeah. Well there's, there's a few that allow you to do dirty ones, but they're not as good, usually as good as the...... the, the legit ones. You know, the one I use I pay, like, $30 a month for. And, you know-
28. JRJoe Rogan
  Really?
29. NANarrator
  Yeah, it's-
30. JRJoe Rogan
  That's more than Netflix, isn't it?
49:38 – 51:40
Illustrators upset
1. NANarrator
  It's perfect for posters, though.
2. JRJoe Rogan
  The, uh, illustrators are getting very upset. People are very upset. There's a guy who just made a children's book, and all the illustrations have been generated with AI-
3. NANarrator
  Mm-hmm.
4. JRJoe Rogan
  ... and people are super upset with him.
5. NANarrator
  I was just looking, there's a new game that Justin Roiland made.
6. NANarrator
  It's awesome.
7. NANarrator
  I'm trying to read if it, he used AI art, or what exactly this says.
8. NANarrator
  (smacks lips) Uh...
9. JRJoe Rogan
  And people are mad at him?
10. NANarrator
  I don't know.
11. NANarrator
  AI art.
12. NANarrator
  Yeah. I've seen this game, but I didn't know it was, had anything to do with AI art.
13. NANarrator
  It's something high, right? Uh-
14. NANarrator
  It says, "Used controversial AI art for new shooter," is what it's saying.
15. JRJoe Rogan
  Isn't it interesting that-
16. NANarrator
  High on that. High on that.
17. JRJoe Rogan
  ... it's all computer-generated images anyway? Right?
18. NANarrator
  Right, right.
19. JRJoe Rogan
  It's not like people are... Rick and Morty creator.
20. NANarrator
  Yeah.
21. JRJoe Rogan
  Oh.
22. NANarrator
  This game is badass, man. Uh, it just came out.
23. NANarrator
  Let's hope it looks.
24. JRJoe Rogan
  Uh, Rick and Morty creator used controversial AI art, voice acting in new shooter. Oh, and voice acting. AI voice acting. (coughs)
25. NANarrator
  Use the machine learning algorithm to create poster art and even a vocal performance.
26. JRJoe Rogan
  Hmm. Well, listen, why is that bad? I don't understand how that's bad.
27. NANarrator
  Yeah, I don't either.
28. JRJoe Rogan
  This idea that y- you're putting people out of work. Yeah. That's true, but that's also the case with, like, au- autonomous trucks. Like, should we not have autonomous trucks that never crash, or should we let truckers get high on meth and drive across the country? (laughs) Which they don't anymore, I should just say. They, uh, they actually limit the amount of time that they're allowed to be behind the wheel. Where they used to just fucking meth up and let's go, and they make it across the whole country in a day.
29. NANarrator
  Mm-hmm.
30. JRJoe Rogan
  They, they're not allowed to do that anymore.
51:40 – 53:12
Alex Gray
1. JRJoe Rogan
  art is amazing. But this stuff is incredible.
2. NANarrator
  Yeah, look at that.
3. JRJoe Rogan
  Take... Go one more to the right of that. Look at that. These are insane, man. This is insane. Look how gorgeous that is. And that's done in Alex Grey style. And a lot of people don't like it. They're upset with it. Look at that. Come on, man. That's-
4. NANarrator
  It's a, it's amazing.
5. JRJoe Rogan
  ... fucking beautiful. Even how, like, one eye is different than the other eye. One eye's kind of droopy. Look at th- that is amazing. Anyone that says that's not beautiful 'cause it wasn't totally done by the hand of a man or a woman or a non-binary person, look at that. That's incredible, man. Look at this, where the skulls go into the mushroom. I, I'm sorry. That is fucking beautiful. And it is created by a person because a person had to program this thing. Is it the same? Do I value it the same? No, because what I value from a piece of art is that someone created it. There's a thing about it, but it's a different thing. I, I still think that's beautiful. You know? Like, I've, I've... Like, when I see, like, a video game that uses, like, uh, the Unr- that new Unreal engine that's incredible.
6. NANarrator
  Mm-hmm.
7. JRJoe Rogan
  I don't get upset that someone didn't paint that, you know?
8. NANarrator
  Right.
9. JRJoe Rogan
  I, I don't get upset that someone didn't create the textures all on their own. I just look at it and say, "That's beautiful." But is it the same as someone doing amazing animation that they drew by hand, like the old Mickey Mouse days? No. No, those are different things. But they're... Just because someone can do it better now with technology doesn't mean it's bad. Like, "Fuck AI art." (scoffs) Okay.
53:12 – 1:11:06
Voice Changer
1. JRJoe Rogan
  But isn't it gorgeous? Like, uh, w- I get what people are saying, that you're taking someone's style. I get-
2. NANarrator
  Mm-hmm.
3. JRJoe Rogan
  But I think human beings are still gonna make the distinction of something being gorgeous, like, that a person makes. Like, a, with a person does it with their hand. They're gonna like that more, always.
4. NANarrator
  I just did Joe Rogan in the style of Alex Grey. (laughs)
5. JRJoe Rogan
  Oh my God. That quickly?
6. NANarrator
  Yeah. (laughs)
7. NANarrator
  There's a, there's a voice changer that I've used to make my voice sound like yours.
8. NANarrator
  Yeah.
9. JRJoe Rogan
  Hmm.
10. NANarrator
  Have you seen that yet?
11. JRJoe Rogan
  It's fucking pretty good. It's pretty good. I saw one where they had me doing a podcast with Steve Jobs.
12. NANarrator
  Yeah.
13. JRJoe Rogan
  It's crazy.
14. NANarrator
  It is so crazy.
15. JRJoe Rogan
  And it's just a matter of time before that's just available to everyone. Everyone uses it. You know? Like, you, you like a girl, you have a video where she say, says, "Brian, I love you," and you send it to her, and she's like, "What the fuck?"
16. NANarrator
  (laughs)
17. NANarrator
  (laughs)
18. JRJoe Rogan
  "I never said this."
19. NANarrator
  (laughs)
20. JRJoe Rogan
  You know?
21. NANarrator
  (laughs)
22. JRJoe Rogan
  Uh, what is this?
23. NANarrator
  This kind of thing...
24. JRJoe Rogan
  This is fake?
25. NANarrator
  In temporary terms, it is not. What if I were to tell you that I'm not even a human being? Would you believe me?
26. NANarrator
  (laughs)
27. NANarrator
  What is your perception of reality? Is it the ability to capture, process, and make sense of the information our senses receive? If you can see, hear, taste, or smell something, does that make it real?
28. JRJoe Rogan
  Oh my God, this is incredible.
29. NANarrator
  Or is it simply the ability...
30. JRJoe Rogan
  So, this guy is this bald dude-

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Intro

Fursic Zoo

Polar Bears

Zoos

Baby Chimp

Death Row

Drug Testing

Sex

Transphobia

Men vs Women

Old Movies

Tropic Thunder

Mariachis

Restaurant

Hollywood

Baby Lions

Dave Chappelle

Brad Pitt

Food

Food in Italy

When Italians came to America

People against books

Illustrators upset

Alex Gray

Voice Changer

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