Joe Rogan Experience #1915 - Brian Simpson

1. 0:00 – 2:35

   A legless MMA fighter changes the rules of engagement (Zion Clark)

   1. NANarrator0:00

      (drumbeats) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out. The Joe Rogan Experience.

   2. Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. (rock music)

   3. JRJoe Rogan0:12

      Bro.

   4. BSBrian Simpson0:13

      Oh.

   5. JRJoe Rogan0:13

      My friend.

   6. BSBrian Simpson0:14

      Cheers.

   7. JRJoe Rogan0:14

      Let's to you, my brother.

   8. BSBrian Simpson0:15

      Thank you, man.

   9. JRJoe Rogan0:15

      Hey, my pleasure.

   10. BSBrian Simpson0:18

       Ah, Scotch.

   11. JRJoe Rogan0:19

       Ah.

   12. BSBrian Simpson0:20

       Okay. First of all, Joe, did you see the guy yesterday, his debut MMA match, he won by the way, he has no lower body.

   13. JRJoe Rogan0:30

       Yes, Zion.

   14. BSBrian Simpson0:32

       Zion.

   15. JRJoe Rogan0:33

       Yeah. Dude, incredible.

   16. BSBrian Simpson0:34

       It was unbelievable.

   17. JRJoe Rogan0:36

       How fast he closes the distance with no legs.

   18. BSBrian Simpson0:39

       And, uh, so what my question is, are you a-

   19. JRJoe Rogan0:44

       Zion Clark, amazing.

   20. BSBrian Simpson0:47

       ... are you allowed... Is he considered a downed opponent?

   21. JRJoe Rogan0:50

       That's a good question.

   22. BSBrian Simpson0:51

       Because that, because that-

   23. JRJoe Rogan0:54

       Changes the game.

   24. BSBrian Simpson0:55

       ... that makes him OP. He, because you can't kick him. You-

   25. JRJoe Rogan0:57

       You can kick him in the body.

   26. BSBrian Simpson0:59

       Uh.

   27. JRJoe Rogan1:00

       You can kick a downed opponent in the body. I mean, you think a leg kick is bad? Imagine an arm kick.

   28. BSBrian Simpson1:05

       Yeah. And then imagine like you can't grab his legs, you can't...

   29. JRJoe Rogan1:08

       Yeah. It's, it's... And also, his upper body's insanely strong for someone of that weight class. So you have to think, like... First of all, nothing but props for the guy. No excuses.

   30. BSBrian Simpson1:20

       Oh, yeah.
2. 2:35 – 4:37

   Hidden physical adaptability: foot dexterity, boxing mechanics, and “necessity”

   1. BSBrian Simpson2:35

      Have you ever seen that woman who was born with no legs and she does everything with her feet. She puts her lipstick on with her feet, she, she eats with her feet, she writes, writes her name with her feet.

   2. JRJoe Rogan2:44

      Mm.

   3. BSBrian Simpson2:44

      Yeah, um, it's crazy. She has dexterity with her feet like people have with their hands, which makes you think, like, I wonder if that's like a skill that we all could acquire, we just don't, because we don't use our legs for that. Because like there's certain things that people could do with their hands, right? Like if you ever see like a guy who's really good at boxing, thinking... Like you ever, have you done any boxing? A little bit, yeah.

   4. JRJoe Rogan3:06

      One of the things that's really awkward to learn is a left hook. It feels very weird.

   5. BSBrian Simpson3:09

      It does, yeah.

   6. JRJoe Rogan3:10

      When you're standing like this and you gotta do that, it feels very weird to learn how to do that properly. It's a very odd movement. And people are all like it's... But eventually, it gets to the point where it's natural. Like in a fight it just comes out, like you train it.

   7. BSBrian Simpson3:24

      Yeah.

   8. JRJoe Rogan3:24

      So there's all these like hidden abilities that our bodies have, but we just don't ever use them in that way.

   9. BSBrian Simpson3:30

      I think, I think, you know, necessity is necessary. Like the fact that you have no choice-

   10. JRJoe Rogan3:36

       Yeah.

   11. BSBrian Simpson3:36

       ... that is the, that is the number one motivator.

   12. JRJoe Rogan3:39

       Mm-hmm.

   13. BSBrian Simpson3:39

       It's like, if I don't learn how to do this shit with my feet, I'm never gonna do shit.

   14. JRJoe Rogan3:42

       Right. Yeah.

   15. BSBrian Simpson3:44

       Yeah. I admire that kind of shit.

   16. JRJoe Rogan3:45

       And y- you, your nervous system, the way you learn things is by repetitive, you know, motion, like you do it over and o- That's why, like when you tie your shoes, you don't even think about it, you just... Eddie Bravo used to always use that as an example about jujitsu, that you gotta train it to the point where it's automatic, like tying your shoes. Because when you tie your shoes, you're not thinking, "Okay, I make this loop and I wrap it around that loop and I go under and I do that." You don't think that, you just...

   17. BSBrian Simpson4:12

       No.

   18. JRJoe Rogan4:12

       You just like, that's... Jujitsu has to become like that too.

   19. BSBrian Simpson4:14

       I knew some kind of rhyme when I was a kid at first. You know how they teach you like, you know... Or some shit, like, you know, this is a bunny rabbit and over the bridge and under the-

   20. JRJoe Rogan4:22

       Yeah. (laughs)

   21. BSBrian Simpson4:23

       But, but now I don't think about it at all. Yeah, you're right.

   22. JRJoe Rogan4:26

       Yeah, you don't think about it at all. Well, that eventually happens I think with everything that you do. You just gotta do it so much, because you tie your shoes every day. Get up, tie your shoes.

   23. BSBrian Simpson4:35

       Yeah.

   24. JRJoe Rogan4:35

       You gotta take your shoes off, put them back on, tie them on.

3. 4:37 – 5:32

   Stand-up fundamentals: ‘Just keep doing it’—and why that’s true

   1. BSBrian Simpson4:37

      That's why I, um, 'cause on my podcast, BS with Brian Simpson, check it out.

   2. JRJoe Rogan4:41

      It's a very good podcast.

   3. BSBrian Simpson4:42

      YouTube, all platforms, BS with Brian Simpson. Um, on mine, we, I get... All the time I get emails about, um, people go, "How do I do standup com..." You know, you get those questions all the time.

   4. JRJoe Rogan4:55

      Yeah.

   5. BSBrian Simpson4:55

      And it's like, when I remember when I first started, I, I would get so frustrated because the veterans would always be like, "Well, just keep doing it." And it felt like a bullshit answer, but it is the answer.

   6. JRJoe Rogan5:05

      It's the right answer. Yeah.

   7. BSBrian Simpson5:06

      It's the right answer. You just gotta do it.

   8. JRJoe Rogan5:07

      But you also have to pay attention to what you're doing, you know, like I think if we all go back and watch our old tapes.

   9. BSBrian Simpson5:14

      Oh, I can't do it.

   10. JRJoe Rogan5:14

       Yeah, it's horrible. You would go like, "Oh my God, I would never do that that way now."

   11. BSBrian Simpson5:18

       Especially the... So I, I remember when I, um, when I first, when I first started to get good. When like, you know, when people in-

   12. JRJoe Rogan5:24

       How many years was that in?

   13. BSBrian Simpson5:26

       Probably like two, two and a half years.

   14. JRJoe Rogan5:30

       So where you felt like comfortable on stage.

4. 5:32 – 9:12

   Bombing stories and stage illusions: when your ‘best set’ is actually bad

   1. BSBrian Simpson5:32

      Right, when I felt comfortable when it, when my reputation in the scene was like he's one of the best, right? And, and I remember the, um, this guy did a show at, uh, at the club, he booked the club for the whole night. I was working the, the door at this club and, uh, and he decided to come out... He booked three other comics too. He decided to come out after each comic in a different costume as a different character and do standup as a different person. And he'd never done standup, like he was not a standup.... I might have seen him at, like, one open mic or something, and then he decided-

   2. JRJoe Rogan6:07

      Oh, no.

   3. BSBrian Simpson6:07

      ... to put on this whole big show. He was, like, a model or something. And-

   4. JRJoe Rogan6:10

      So he just had, like, a grand idea.

   5. BSBrian Simpson6:11

      Yeah. And I watched this motherfucker bomb-

   6. JRJoe Rogan6:15

      (laughs)

   7. BSBrian Simpson6:16

      ... in front of his friends, all, the club was all people he brought. I watched him bomb three times-

   8. JRJoe Rogan6:22

      Ooh.

   9. BSBrian Simpson6:22

      ... on the same show, and it was, it was painful. And I, I went up, I think I went up after the first character, and I had what, I had the best set of my life. And he also had, he recorded the whole thing, the whole, he had triple camera set up and everything.

   10. JRJoe Rogan6:40

       Oh, no.

   11. BSBrian Simpson6:40

       And, uh, and I remember hitting him up the next day, like, "Hey man, you think I could get that tape?" You know? And, and he was like, "I, I can't watch it right now, but I'll get it to you as soon as, as soon as I..." 'Cause I felt him, like-

   12. JRJoe Rogan6:53

       Yeah.

   13. BSBrian Simpson6:53

       ... his heart was ripped out of his chest. By the time he went up the third time, he, he was already broken. And-

   14. JRJoe Rogan6:59

       This was his first time on stage?

   15. BSBrian Simpson7:00

       It was not his first time on stage, but it was like, he'd done maybe two open mics and then put on this show for his, all his friends and family.

   16. JRJoe Rogan7:07

       Oof.

   17. BSBrian Simpson7:07

       And, and, and I'd forgotten about it. I ain't hear from the guy for like six months, you know? And one day, I come in, I come into work and somebody's like, "Hey man, somebody dropped this off for you," and it was a DVD with that set on it. Then I was like, "That was the best set I ever had," like, "I can't wait to watch this." And I get home and I pop it in the computer, and it was so bad. I, I-

   18. JRJoe Rogan7:26

       (laughs)

   19. BSBrian Simpson7:27

       And I, (laughs) and, and that's when I realized, like, oh no, like, the lessons you would've learned from that, you've already learned now in these six months. Like you, you needed-

   20. JRJoe Rogan7:36

       Yeah.

   21. BSBrian Simpson7:36

       ... to watch that the next day or the, or within a week or something to get the-

   22. JRJoe Rogan7:39

       Right.

   23. BSBrian Simpson7:40

       Right?

   24. JRJoe Rogan7:40

       You figured it out. The, it's funny in the beginning 'cause you're working with open micers too, so like, uh, I, I remember when I got my first gig, when I got a paid gig, and I realized, oh, there's a giant difference between an audience that's there to see a comedy show versus an audience that goes to an open mic night.

   25. BSBrian Simpson7:58

       Right, right.

   26. JRJoe Rogan7:58

       They're there to see pros. And I wasn't really a pro, I was just doing open mic nights. I was, I sucked. And-

   27. BSBrian Simpson8:06

       Yeah.

   28. JRJoe Rogan8:06

       ... the, the, you, when you're working with people that are terrible, I mean, they're so bad they'll never be good, they just don't ha- whatever the fuck it is that makes a person funny, they, they are void of that.

   29. BSBrian Simpson8:16

       Right.

   30. JRJoe Rogan8:16

       There's, we know those guys, right?
5. 9:12 – 11:55

   Comedy Store “trial by fire”: following killers like Pryor, Martin, Joey Diaz

   1. JRJoe Rogan9:12

      One of the things that Mitzi used to do at The Store is, if she thought you were any good, she'd put you on after the best people.

   2. BSBrian Simpson9:17

      Oh, God.

   3. JRJoe Rogan9:18

      You just died. You died. I had to go on after Richard Pryor five weeks in a row. Every time Richard Pryor did a set, I go on, I went on after him.

   4. BSBrian Simpson9:26

      Yeah, but you know what though? The best people, that doesn't scare them.

   5. JRJoe Rogan9:30

      Scared the shit out of me.

   6. BSBrian Simpson9:31

      Did it? Did it?

   7. JRJoe Rogan9:31

      Oh, yeah.

   8. BSBrian Simpson9:32

      You, you weren't like, but you weren't pa- there wasn't part of you that was like looking forward to it, to, to the challenge?

   9. JRJoe Rogan9:36

      Uh, no. I was terrified.

   10. BSBrian Simpson9:38

       Oh my God.

   11. JRJoe Rogan9:39

       You know who terrified me the most? Martin Lawrence.

   12. BSBrian Simpson9:41

       Oh.

   13. JRJoe Rogan9:41

       Dude. I've talked about this before and I'm sorry if you've heard this story, but Martin Lawrence during the You So Crazy days in the '90s, (laughs) I was just getting into LA, so it was like '94. Just getting into LA, little cute, fresh-faced Joe Rogan, and I was terrible. You know?

   14. BSBrian Simpson9:58

       Yeah.

   15. JRJoe Rogan9:58

       Just clunky, real, you know, I'd get a few laughs, I had a couple of good bits, but then I'd fuck something up and just, you know. So I had some potential and I was working at it. And I just went on after murderers. And when Martin Lawrence would, would kill, but people forgot how goddamn good Martin Lawrence-

   16. BSBrian Simpson10:16

       Yeah, I, I hear that from everyone, man.

   17. JRJoe Rogan10:18

       ... was back then. People forgot. If you go back and watch some of his specials and hear the laughs, you'll get, it's, it's always hard to watch a special from the '90s 'cause for some reason, the comedy doesn't hold up that good with, like it holds up for Pryor, it holds up for Kinison, it holds up for s- the greats of the greats, s- but like if you watch like some of the really good specials from like the 1990s, they, there's something about them, they're just kind of, the style's dated. Something's different.

   18. BSBrian Simpson10:46

       No, I, I think some, I think just, it's just that some comedy is about the big picture, like just human- humanity.

   19. JRJoe Rogan10:53

       Mm-hmm.

   20. BSBrian Simpson10:53

       And some comedy is about the times.

   21. JRJoe Rogan10:55

       Right.

   22. BSBrian Simpson10:55

       And the c- the comedy that's specifically about the times, unless the, unless things are exactly the s- th- things are the same-

   23. JRJoe Rogan11:01

       Right.

   24. BSBrian Simpson11:01

       ... it doesn't hold up because the culture's so different, you know?

   25. JRJoe Rogan11:04

       Yeah, for sure. I mean, culture shifts so radically.

   26. BSBrian Simpson11:07

       You know, you know who I, who I always fucking dreaded following?

   27. JRJoe Rogan11:10

       Who?

   28. BSBrian Simpson11:11

       Fucking Joey Diaz.

   29. JRJoe Rogan11:12

       Oh, he was the monster.

   30. BSBrian Simpson11:13

       Joey Diaz-
6. 11:55 – 14:13

   Cutting the fat & the ‘bulking phase’: crafting an act like training a body

   1. JRJoe Rogan11:55

      You gotta cut all the fat out. That's what I realized. You gotta cut to the point. Don't, don't be self-indulgent. The, p- pay attention to yourself like you're a hater.

   2. BSBrian Simpson12:03

      Yeah.

   3. JRJoe Rogan12:03

      Cut that shit out. Make it quicker. Get, get to the funny. Cut all the stuff that's, like, C material.

   4. BSBrian Simpson12:09

      Yeah.

   5. JRJoe Rogan12:09

      Cut it out.

   6. BSBrian Simpson12:10

      I look at my, I look at my act like that, like I'm, like I'm, like I'm, uh, like I'm getting ready for, like, a bodybuilding thing, where it's like-

   7. JRJoe Rogan12:15

      (laughs)

   8. BSBrian Simpson12:15

      ... I just bloated, full of every fucking possible idea I could possibly have and-

   9. JRJoe Rogan12:19

      The bulking phase.

   10. BSBrian Simpson12:20

       Yeah.

   11. JRJoe Rogan12:20

       Yeah.

   12. BSBrian Simpson12:20

       And then I fucking yap, yap, yap, yap, yap, yap.

   13. JRJoe Rogan12:21

       That's a good way to think about it.

   14. BSBrian Simpson12:23

       You know?

   15. JRJoe Rogan12:23

       The bulking phase, because it is like the bulking phase.

   16. BSBrian Simpson12:25

       Oh, yeah.

   17. JRJoe Rogan12:25

       Like I'm in the bulking phase right now because I'm writing all this new shit.

   18. BSBrian Simpson12:28

       Oh, that, I h- yeah. I l- I, but that's g- you know, I, that's my favorite part about the whole shit.

   19. JRJoe Rogan12:32

       It's fun, it's exciting.

   20. BSBrian Simpson12:32

       It's like watching a kid grow up. It's like-

   21. JRJoe Rogan12:33

       It's exciting.

   22. BSBrian Simpson12:34

       Yeah. Just w-

   23. JRJoe Rogan12:35

       It's exciting.

   24. BSBrian Simpson12:35

       ... wait until I figure it out. By the way, I think I figured out that one bit.

   25. JRJoe Rogan12:38

       Oh, beautiful. Well, too-

   26. BSBrian Simpson12:39

       We'll see.

   27. JRJoe Rogan12:39

       Good. See it tonight.

   28. BSBrian Simpson12:40

       Yeah.

   29. JRJoe Rogan12:41

       Um, the, the, uh, those days, though, of like bombing after ... I bombed after Dice a bunch of times. I bombed after, um ... I bombed after Damon Wayans. I bombed after everybody. (laughs)

   30. BSBrian Simpson12:53

       Yeah. There's so many people that are so funny.
7. 14:13 – 16:27

   Writing discipline, procrastination psychology, and separating home from work

   1. JRJoe Rogan14:13

      Do you know what? There's a thing that I think we should all implement. You know how we do this Sober October thing?

   2. BSBrian Simpson14:18

      Yeah.

   3. JRJoe Rogan14:18

      Where, uh, this year, we had a workout every day and burned 500 calories. We should do that with writing. Like, we all commit to writing, just make it reasonable, like two hours every day.

   4. BSBrian Simpson14:30

      Writing for two hours?

   5. JRJoe Rogan14:31

      Writing for two hours every day, that's reasonable.

   6. BSBrian Simpson14:33

      Yeah, that is reasonable. Yeah.

   7. JRJoe Rogan14:34

      You know why? Because once you start, you just keep going. Like the hard part about writing is sitting down in front of your computer. That's what, uh, Steven Pressfield calls resistance, the resistance of doing it. It's like your ego's fighting you, and your, you know, whatever it is. Procrastination, like there's times where I'm in front of my computer and I s- I'm supposed to write, and I just watch people play pool.

   8. BSBrian Simpson14:55

      T- yeah, but see proc-

   9. JRJoe Rogan14:56

      (laughs)

   10. BSBrian Simpson14:56

       ... procrastination, procrastination's interesting because I, I heard somebody recently say that it's not ... Procrastination is your inability to deal with the negative feelings around the task.

   11. JRJoe Rogan15:07

       Hm.

   12. BSBrian Simpson15:08

       Because your procrastination isn't you just not doing the important thing. It's you're doing something unimportant instead.

   13. JRJoe Rogan15:14

       Right.

   14. BSBrian Simpson15:15

       You're, you're, you're doing something with no consequences. You're, you're-

   15. JRJoe Rogan15:17

       Right.

   16. BSBrian Simpson15:17

       ... scrolling TikTok. You're-

   17. JRJoe Rogan15:19

       Yeah.

   18. BSBrian Simpson15:19

       ... playing video games. You're doing something that, that with no stakes and-

   19. JRJoe Rogan15:22

       Right.

   20. BSBrian Simpson15:22

       ... because your, the stakes make you uncomfortable.

   21. JRJoe Rogan15:24

       Right.

   22. BSBrian Simpson15:25

       Yeah.

   23. JRJoe Rogan15:25

       Yeah, like to sit in front of the computer and not knowing where to go with anything.

   24. BSBrian Simpson15:29

       Yeah.

   25. JRJoe Rogan15:30

       It's like, "Fuck." It's, you can't af-

   26. BSBrian Simpson15:31

       I see, I, I need to leave my hou- because I, do we ... we have a, we, uh, because, you know, I'm roommates with Hans and, and, uh, Hasan, and we, we, there's a extra room that we kind of turned into a podcast studio.

   27. JRJoe Rogan15:42

       Mm-hmm.

   28. BSBrian Simpson15:43

       But I have to leave. I still record somewhere else because I have to leave.

   29. JRJoe Rogan15:48

       To work.

   30. BSBrian Simpson15:49

       To work, yeah.
8. 16:27 – 17:09

   Fame logistics and privacy: Uber drop-offs, safety, and driving solo

   1. BSBrian Simpson16:27

      And nobody comes and taps you on the shoulder and goes, "Hey, you're too famous for this now." You know what I mean? It's, it just creeps up on you.

   2. JRJoe Rogan16:34

      Yeah.

   3. BSBrian Simpson16:34

      Yeah, I had a motherfucker dr- I had a ... somebody drop me off at my house the other day, an Uber, and the whole ride, this, this dude was asking me questions as though he didn't know who I was.

   4. JRJoe Rogan16:44

      (sighs) He got you.

   5. BSBrian Simpson16:46

      And then, yeah, and then drops me off at my house and goes, "Hey, man, I'm gonna be honest. I'm a, I'm a big fan and ... what do you do at the ... well, I, I didn't know you live here." And it's like, "Aw, man."

   6. JRJoe Rogan16:55

      Shit.

   7. BSBrian Simpson16:55

      Yeah, so now I, when I Uber home, I have to Uber up the street. I Uber to the next block.

   8. JRJoe Rogan16:59

      Oh, no.

   9. BSBrian Simpson17:01

      Yeah.

   10. JRJoe Rogan17:01

       Oh, no.

   11. BSBrian Simpson17:02

       But it's just, it's just part of what ... and no- I don't think I, I'm not big enough where somebody gonna do something crazy, at least ... but it only take one crazy.

9. 17:09 – 21:30

   Cars, manuals, and the gadget mindset: connected vehicles and subscriptions

   1. JRJoe Rogan17:09

      It only takes one crazy. Why don't you get a car?

   2. BSBrian Simpson17:11

      I will, eventually.

   3. JRJoe Rogan17:12

      Yeah.

   4. BSBrian Simpson17:13

      Yeah.

   5. JRJoe Rogan17:13

      That's easy to drive around here.

   6. BSBrian Simpson17:15

      Yeah, I will.

   7. JRJoe Rogan17:16

      You know, I get the whole Uber thing, but like I like driving myself. I like being alone, thinking, you know?

   8. BSBrian Simpson17:22

      Yeah.

   9. JRJoe Rogan17:22

      There's something about the movement of driving, too, you know, especially if, uh, you, uh, you're, you're driving something where you have a manual transmission. There's all this activity in your mind. There's a lot of-

   10. BSBrian Simpson17:32

       Yeah.

   11. JRJoe Rogan17:32

       ... stuff going on.

   12. BSBrian Simpson17:32

       They don't even do those anymore.

   13. JRJoe Rogan17:33

       Oh, yeah, they do.

   14. BSBrian Simpson17:34

       Yeah?

   15. JRJoe Rogan17:35

       Yeah, you can make, you can get manuals.

   16. BSBrian Simpson17:37

       Ah.

   17. JRJoe Rogan17:37

       Yeah, they still sell the Mustang in a manual, they sell Porsches in manual.... they sell, um-

   18. BSBrian Simpson17:42

       But the default's automatic.

   19. JRJoe Rogan17:43

       Yes.

   20. BSBrian Simpson17:44

       Yeah.

   21. JRJoe Rogan17:44

       There's very few cars where you can only get a stick. There's a few, like, sports cars where you can only get a stick. Like, uh, custom-made stuff, and there's a few... What? Like, there's probably a... I think some of the Porsches. There's like one or two Porsches. Maybe it's the T. Is it... See if that's true, the 911T. Is it they, like, make purist cars. Like, they did that... They used to do that with the, the GT3. It was, like, the Porsche R, it only came in a manual.

   22. BSBrian Simpson18:12

       Yeah.

   23. JRJoe Rogan18:12

       It was, like this 500 horsepower beautiful 911 that was, like, sedated-looking, 'cause it looked almost like a reg-... It didn't have, like, a crazy wing like a GT3 RS. That's... Yeah. The unconnected car, it does... Internet-connected cars makes it a case for unplugging. How is it unconnected? It doesn't have, uh, screens and shit, and GPS? Is that what it's saying? Stripped down? It has more... Oh, the new 911T has more electronic equipment than the old one, including electronically adjustable dampers, active engine transmission. Okay, that's just, like, electronics for the car itself, but... The infotainment system is connected and able to receive over-the-air updates, uh, and link to a smartphone app, but you can still turn the data sharing and refuse to use the app. Even the UTA updates are limited to into-... infotainment, uh, software, not vehicle controls. For modern high-end vehicles this is as close as you're gonna get to an off-the-grid in a brand new car. They're dope.

   24. BSBrian Simpson19:12

       Oh.

   25. JRJoe Rogan19:12

       Go back to that image again. Yeah. So it's a manual.

   26. BSBrian Simpson19:14

       Yeah, but that's not as close as you can get off the grid. Rip that shit out.

   27. JRJoe Rogan19:17

       Yeah.

   28. BSBrian Simpson19:17

       That's off the grid.

   29. JRJoe Rogan19:18

       It still has a... It looks like it has Apple CarPlay.

   30. BSBrian Simpson19:21

       Right. (laughs) Like, totally disconnected. (laughs)
10. 21:30 – 25:19

    Apple vs Android—and the dark supply chain behind smartphones (cobalt mining)

    1. JRJoe Rogan21:30

       Yeah. You're, you're, uh, you're all in with gadgets and you're all in with Android, which is very interesting.

    2. BSBrian Simpson21:34

       Um, for now. For now.

    3. JRJoe Rogan21:36

       Oh, you're starting to come-

    4. BSBrian Simpson21:37

       For now.

    5. JRJoe Rogan21:38

       ... over to the dark side.

    6. BSBrian Simpson21:39

       Uh, well, I think Apple is about to switch not to USB-C, but I think they're gonna go wireless completely.

    7. JRJoe Rogan21:44

       That's not smart.

    8. BSBrian Simpson21:45

       It's, it's the way they-

    9. JRJoe Rogan21:47

       It's not as fast.

    10. BSBrian Simpson21:48

        Well, the thing is, the reason they have it... The reason they're still on the old, the old lightning cable is because manufacturers have to pay them for that Made for Apple shit.

    11. JRJoe Rogan21:59

        Right, because of the lightning cable.

    12. BSBrian Simpson22:00

        Right. And s-

    13. JRJoe Rogan22:01

        They, they should have gone to USB-C.

    14. BSBrian Simpson22:02

        Right. But now they, they... And they invented USB-C.

    15. JRJoe Rogan22:05

        That's crazy.

    16. BSBrian Simpson22:05

        And, and now they, they got the MagSafe shit, and that's proprietary as well. So the... They can s- they can... 'Cause the EU just ruled against them.

    17. JRJoe Rogan22:13

        Right. The EU said that they have to put USB-C cables in.

    18. BSBrian Simpson22:16

        No, the, the ES-... The, the EU said anything that can be charged with a cable has to have, has to be USB-C.

    19. JRJoe Rogan22:22

        Well, USB-C is superior, which is weird. It's, like, superior for data transfer-

    20. BSBrian Simpson22:27

        Yeah.

    21. JRJoe Rogan22:27

        ... superior for everything. But Apple had that proprietary input that, you know... So many more people have, uh, iPhones-

    22. BSBrian Simpson22:35

        Oh.

    23. JRJoe Rogan22:36

        ... than u- than I know.

    24. BSBrian Simpson22:36

        Yeah, in America.

    25. JRJoe Rogan22:37

        Yeah.

    26. BSBrian Simpson22:38

        Yeah.

    27. JRJoe Rogan22:38

        But if you look at, like, the number of sales, it's like, I think there's way more Android phones than there are iPhones.

    28. BSBrian Simpson22:45

        Yeah.

    29. JRJoe Rogan22:45

        Right?

    30. BSBrian Simpson22:46

        In the world, yeah.
11. 25:19 – 30:41

    Abortion law edge cases: Down syndrome exception and ‘where does it end?’

    1. BSBrian Simpson25:19

       What do you think this, uh, this headline is about?

    2. JRJoe Rogan25:23

       Okay.

    3. BSBrian Simpson25:24

       This is what we do on my podcast, by the way. Uh-

    4. JRJoe Rogan25:27

       (coughs) I used the cough button for the right reason. How about that?

    5. BSBrian Simpson25:29

       Woman with Down syndrome loses Court of Appeal abortion law case. So what do you think that's about? Is ...

    6. JRJoe Rogan25:40

       I would say someone is forcing her to get an abortion-

    7. BSBrian Simpson25:43

       Okay. And-

    8. JRJoe Rogan25:44

       ... and she loses the lawsuit.

    9. BSBrian Simpson25:45

       Right, 'cause that's what a reasonable person would think.

    10. JRJoe Rogan25:47

        Right.

    11. BSBrian Simpson25:47

        No. No.

    12. JRJoe Rogan25:48

        No.

    13. BSBrian Simpson25:49

        No. (laughs)

    14. JRJoe Rogan25:50

        What is it?

    15. BSBrian Simpson25:50

        What it's about is, so this is in England. Their abortion laws are pretty much, uh, the same as Texas, and ... (glass thumps)

    16. JRJoe Rogan25:59

        Really?

    17. BSBrian Simpson26:00

        Um, it's pretty close.

    18. JRJoe Rogan26:00

        Six weeks?

    19. BSBrian Simpson26:02

        No, it's not six weeks, but it's like, there, there's an exception for ... there's an exception for, um, you know, the rape and incest, and if there's gonna be a severe birth defect, and as a, and a sp- as a specific example, they use Down syndrome in the, in the law.

    20. JRJoe Rogan26:19

        Mm.

    21. BSBrian Simpson26:20

        And this woman wants to repeal the law because she has Down syndrome, and making that an exception mean- makes her f- less than.

    22. JRJoe Rogan26:30

        Mm.

    23. BSBrian Simpson26:31

        So she wants ... So if your baby's about to be born with Down syndrome in the UK, you can have an abortion.

    24. JRJoe Rogan26:36

        Did ... You know, it's like, what, at what, where do you decide birth defects end? Right? So what if your child is born with only one hand? You know what I'm saying?

    25. BSBrian Simpson26:46

        Oh, well it's, it's, uh, it's all stuff that they can-

    26. JRJoe Rogan26:48

        What if your child is born like Zion Clark?

    27. BSBrian Simpson26:50

        Well, they can tell genetically beforehand. I don't know if they can t- well, maybe they can.

    28. JRJoe Rogan26:54

        I think they can tell a lot.

    29. BSBrian Simpson26:55

        Yeah. Yeah.

    30. JRJoe Rogan26:56

        I think they can tell a lot about your development. If someone decides that ... I mean, you could get real crazy with that, right? Like-
12. 30:41 – 32:56

    COVID aftermath, masks returning, immune impacts—and weird new pathogens

    1. BSBrian Simpson30:41

       (smacks lips) Yeah, but it's like, yeah, it's, it's kinda, it's, it's, it's sad, man. And it... But I, I'm not sure if the world is worse. 'Cause every... You know, the media wants you to believe that, like, everything's horrible.

    2. JRJoe Rogan30:52

       No.

    3. BSBrian Simpson30:53

       It-

    4. JRJoe Rogan30:53

       The world's better statistically.

    5. BSBrian Simpson30:55

       Right, right, right. And, and, and I know people are doing bad, worse now relative to how they were doing a few years ago.

    6. JRJoe Rogan31:01

       Yes.

    7. BSBrian Simpson31:02

       But we all, but we all just went... The whole globe went through the same shit.

    8. JRJoe Rogan31:06

       Well, it's... Yeah. It's, you can't shut a country down. Now we know.

    9. BSBrian Simpson31:11

       Now you-

    10. JRJoe Rogan31:11

        Now we know.

    11. BSBrian Simpson31:11

        Yeah.

    12. JRJoe Rogan31:11

        You can't do that. But, you know, there's a lot of people that want to claim that they had the solution to that. No one knew what the fuck was going on-

    13. BSBrian Simpson31:18

        Yeah.

    14. JRJoe Rogan31:18

        ... in the beginning. The way it was handled was definitely bad. But i- in the beginning, no one knew what the fuck to do. We were all in favor of the lockdown at first, 'cause we all thought it was gonna work, except for, like, virologists and epidemiologists who thought that, that it didn't matter and it was just gonna spread no matter what you did.

    15. BSBrian Simpson31:35

        Well, what, what blows my mind is that I don't... I feel like we, we're gonna make the same mistake again.

    16. JRJoe Rogan31:40

        We might... Well, there's, you know, there's people that wanna put the masks back on for RSV and for the flu and for all these different things we never wore a mask for before.

    17. BSBrian Simpson31:48

        No.

    18. JRJoe Rogan31:48

        And then there's all this evidence a kid's immune system function is not working as good because they didn't get exposed to anything for all those times-

    19. BSBrian Simpson31:55

        W- what about that-

    20. JRJoe Rogan31:56

        ... that they were isolated.

    21. BSBrian Simpson31:57

        What about that fungal shit? You heard about that?

    22. JRJoe Rogan31:58

        Fungal shit?

    23. BSBrian Simpson31:59

        There's, like, some fungal shit that was, like, spreading in Vegas, now it's everywhere.

    24. JRJoe Rogan32:03

        What is it?

    25. BSBrian Simpson32:04

        It's some shit you can bre... It's a fungus that you can breathe in.

    26. JRJoe Rogan32:06

        Oh, no.

    27. BSBrian Simpson32:07

        And it, it fucks some people up.

    28. JRJoe Rogan32:09

        Imagine if it got you high. Imagine if it was, like, psilocybin-

    29. BSBrian Simpson32:12

        Yeah.

    30. JRJoe Rogan32:12

        ... fungus that you could breathe in and there's, like, a whole town of people-
13. 32:56 – 36:54

    Aliens, CRISPR, and engineered humans: from ‘Gattaca’ to super-babies

    1. JRJoe Rogan32:56

       I've always wondered if that's why aliens have those big gl- black eyes. Or, like, one of those-

    2. BSBrian Simpson33:00

       (laughs)

    3. JRJoe Rogan33:00

       ... eyes are like... If those things are like sunglasses. It's like, their environment gets so fucked that, you know, they need to be shielded from ultraviolet rays. They can't see normally, so they're like... (snaps fingers)

    4. BSBrian Simpson33:11

       Uh, see, I would love to do that. What if we got... 'Cause you know enough smart people, like, if we got together and tried to, like, re-engineer the human body.

    5. JRJoe Rogan33:18

       They're gonna do that.

    6. BSBrian Simpson33:19

       You think?

    7. JRJoe Rogan33:19

       They're do... They're doing that right now. There's a thing called... Do you know what CRISPR is?

    8. BSBrian Simpson33:23

       Oh, yeah, yeah.

    9. JRJoe Rogan33:23

       Yeah.

    10. BSBrian Simpson33:23

        The gene splicing thing?

    11. JRJoe Rogan33:24

        Yeah.

    12. BSBrian Simpson33:24

        That's-

    13. JRJoe Rogan33:26

        Wild shit. (laughs)

    14. BSBrian Simpson33:26

        ... that's some crazy shit.

    15. JRJoe Rogan33:28

        Wild shit. (laughs) They're gonna ch- they're gonna make Thors and Hulks.

    16. BSBrian Simpson33:32

        Yeah.

    17. JRJoe Rogan33:32

        They're gonna, like... People are gonna be able to run 500 miles an hour and just-

    18. BSBrian Simpson33:35

        R- remember, rememberGattaca?

    19. JRJoe Rogan33:37

        Yes. Yeah.

    20. BSBrian Simpson33:38

        Yeah. And it's like, yo, you're not gonna have a choice. People are like, "Oh, I'm not gonna edit my kids." Yes, you are.

    21. JRJoe Rogan33:42

        Yeah, you gonna.

    22. BSBrian Simpson33:43

        Yes, you are.

    23. JRJoe Rogan33:44

        You could...

    24. BSBrian Simpson33:44

        'Cause you can't afford to not to.

    25. JRJoe Rogan33:44

        It'll be a new thing. It'll just be like vaccinating your kids. It'll be like things that everybody does.

    26. BSBrian Simpson33:49

        Yeah.

    27. JRJoe Rogan33:49

        It'd be like, uh, you know, b- bringing your kid to the doctor for a checkup or, you know, having a, a baby in a hospital. It'd be normal.

    28. BSBrian Simpson33:57

        Whoever's Kim Kardashian in 2045, as soon as they p- pump out a super baby... You know what I mean?

    29. JRJoe Rogan34:04

        Yeah.

    30. BSBrian Simpson34:04

        Like, can you imagine, like, getting, like, Jon Jones', m- you know, mother's genes and mixing them with, like, uh, uh, Francis Ngannou and... Like, how-
14. 36:54 – 45:14

    Elon Musk, polarization, and Lex Fridman: steelmanning and online emotions

    1. BSBrian Simpson36:54

       Well, I used... I, I went, I went, um, 'cause my, my producer doesn't like Elon Musk and we argue about it all the time. But, 'cause-

    2. JRJoe Rogan37:01

       What doesn't he like about him?

    3. BSBrian Simpson37:03

       Um, he, he's just a hardcore lefty. So E- you know, Elon is t- you know, I, I don't wanna speak, put words in his mouth, but it's like to him, Elon is what's wrong with everything.

    4. JRJoe Rogan37:14

       Hm.

    5. BSBrian Simpson37:15

       You know? But, but I, I was, I'm one of those people where I'm like... I, I try as my best to be neutral with people like him because he's one of those people that's so polarizing that, like, when, when people don't like you, like the way they don't like him, they... Anything negative about you, they just believe it. They-

    6. JRJoe Rogan37:32

       Well, it's always-

    7. BSBrian Simpson37:33

       ... or, or repeat it.

    8. JRJoe Rogan37:33

       For people like that, it's always good to try to engage them as calmly as possible and not to, not even to pick a side. Just, you kinda wanna steel man their position. Right?

    9. BSBrian Simpson37:43

       Right.

    10. JRJoe Rogan37:43

        Like if someone is very, very emotional, you almost wanna ask them, "Okay, w- tell me what you think and why you think this way." And then they tell you what they think, and then you could say is, "Have you ever considered..." or "D- did you know that", this, "I see what you're saying. I agree with what you're saying." Like, you almost, like, wanna say, "I see your point, so I understand what you're saying."

    11. BSBrian Simpson38:06

        Right.

    12. JRJoe Rogan38:07

        But human beings are extremely nuanced. And you could narrow a guy like Elon down to, like, a very dismissable box, like very easily, because he-

    13. BSBrian Simpson38:16

        Yeah.

    14. JRJoe Rogan38:16

        ... tweets at people and he says ridiculous shit and he, he trolls and he has fun. He put a picture of fucking Bill Gates up next to a pregnant man emoji and said, "If you wanna lose a boner real quick." (laughs)

    15. BSBrian Simpson38:26

        No. (laughs)

    16. JRJoe Rogan38:27

        I mean... (laughs)

    17. BSBrian Simpson38:27

        He's-

    18. NANarrator38:27

        (laughs)

    19. JRJoe Rogan38:27

        I mean, that shit is hilarious. Who the fuck does that?

    20. BSBrian Simpson38:30

        Yo, he put a, he put a poll up saying like, "Yo, should I step down as CEO?"

    21. JRJoe Rogan38:34

        Yeah. And they said yes, so he's looking for a CEO.

    22. BSBrian Simpson38:37

        I hope he picks Lex.

    23. JRJoe Rogan38:39

        Well, Lex offered to do it.

    24. BSBrian Simpson38:41

        Yeah.

    25. JRJoe Rogan38:41

        Um, if l- like Le- Lex is a brilliant engineer.

    26. BSBrian Simpson38:45

        Yeah.

    27. JRJoe Rogan38:45

        Um, I don't know if he wants to be a CEO. A chi- chief executive officer? That's what that is, right?

    28. BSBrian Simpson38:50

        But do you think he was bullshitting when he offered it?

    29. JRJoe Rogan38:52

        I don't know if that's what he's offering. He might've been offering to take it over from an engineering perspective.

    30. BSBrian Simpson38:57

        Oh, okay.
15. 45:14 – 53:34

    From wrestling trauma to jiu-jitsu obsession: drilling, technique, and mastery

    1. BSBrian Simpson45:14

       See, I'm, uh, jujitsu intimidates me. I think it, but I need, I need, I need to pick something up. I'm, uh, uh, I think I'm gonna do boxing.

    2. JRJoe Rogan45:21

       Why don't you do jujitsu?

    3. BSBrian Simpson45:22

       It's, it's... I don't know. It just some- I can't macha- 'Cause I d- I wrestled for, like, my freshman year of high school, and I, and I hated it.

    4. JRJoe Rogan45:31

       It's hard.

    5. BSBrian Simpson45:32

       Yeah, it, it's, it's constantly hard. It's like-

    6. JRJoe Rogan45:35

       Yep.

    7. BSBrian Simpson45:35

       ... it, it doesn't not, it doesn't stop being hard.

    8. JRJoe Rogan45:37

       Wrestlers are some of, like, the mentally strongest people in the world. The, the, just to get through the practices and the drills and all the live rounds, the live, uh, wrestling, and then to go to meets and to make weight the day of the match and the shit that those guys go through. The way they cut weight, the way, the s- the mental strength-

    9. BSBrian Simpson45:57

       Yeah.

    10. JRJoe Rogan45:57

        ... that wrestlers have is off the charts.

    11. BSBrian Simpson45:59

        They, they're masters at, at focusing while they're suffering.

    12. JRJoe Rogan46:03

        Mm-hmm.

    13. BSBrian Simpson46:04

        You know?

    14. JRJoe Rogan46:04

        Yeah.

    15. BSBrian Simpson46:05

        Whereas, like, most, the average person will be suffering, and 90% of their brain power will be focused on how much it sucks.

    16. JRJoe Rogan46:11

        Yeah.

    17. BSBrian Simpson46:12

        And wrestlers learn how to just ignore it and, like, completely focus while they're in pain, where they can't breathe, you know? What-

    18. JRJoe Rogan46:19

        They have a phrase for it. It's called embrace the grind.

    19. BSBrian Simpson46:22

        Yeah. 'Cause, 'cause I've been there. It's like, if you've never had a motherfucker on top of you...

    20. JRJoe Rogan46:26

        (laughs)

    21. BSBrian Simpson46:27

        ... that you can't get off you, you don't understand what I'm talking about. Because, look, I'll never forget one, this is what made me quit wrestling. (laughs) I showed up at this, it w- it was our school hosting a tournament. And, uh, and I gotten my brother to come. And, uh, and you know, my family didn't give a fuck about wrestling, but, but he came to watch. And I was going up against this other, uh, I was, it was my turn to go against this other dude. And I walked in, and this motherfucker's got, he's got some kind of tubes or some shit coming out of him. Like, he's on some kind of, I don't know, a heart thing or something. And no one gave me any guidance. No one gave me a heads-up. I didn't know if I was allowed to grab it. Like, would he die if I pulled it up? None of that shit. No one said anything to me. And I'm s- but I'm like, "Okay, it's fine. My brother's watching."

    22. JRJoe Rogan47:11

        (laughs)

    23. BSBrian Simpson47:11

        "I'm o- I'm just gonna fuck this dude up. Uh, well, he's crippled or something," right? That's what, that's how I was thinking back then. And as soon as the ref blew the whistle, I've never seen a motherfucker move this fast. He dove at my ankle and tripped me and was on my back, and we rolled out of bounds, and the ref blew the whistle again. He dove at my ankle and, and he did it, like, five times in a row, just s- just f- lightning. Fuck me up. And I threw my headset off, and I got docked a point, and I was like, "Fuck that," and I walked out of the gym.

    24. JRJoe Rogan47:39

        Wow.

    25. BSBrian Simpson47:40

        Because my b- uh, you know, 'cause it was the first time anyone had come to watch me, and I got just embarrassed, and I couldn't handle it.

    26. JRJoe Rogan47:46

        Oh, no.

    27. BSBrian Simpson47:47

        Yeah. Never wrestled after that.

    28. JRJoe Rogan47:48

        (laughs) If you get in there with someone who's really good at something and you're not, you just realize right away. You're like, "Oh, no." Like, "I can't think as quick as you're moving. I g- I'm not, I can't keep the rhythm."

    29. BSBrian Simpson48:02

        Yeah.

    30. JRJoe Rogan48:02

        "I don't know what you're doing before you're doing it, and then you're doing another thing-"
16. 53:34 – 55:19

    Sambo for MMA, Khabib’s ‘smash,’ and the evolution of fighting styles

    1. BSBrian Simpson53:34

       Why do you, why do you think sambo isn't more popular?

    2. JRJoe Rogan53:36

       Well, that's interesting that you said that because Gordon Ryan just said that he thinks that combat sambo is actually better for MMA than jujitsu is, which he's got a... He's got some real good points.

    3. BSBrian Simpson53:46

       He does.

    4. JRJoe Rogan53:46

       Like if anybody knows, it's Gordon. And the, the guys that are really good in combat sambo like, uh, Khabib and, uh, Islam Makhachev who's, uh, the, uh, UFC lightweight champion right now. He's a fucking animal and he's a combat sambo guy.

    5. BSBrian Simpson54:00

       Yeah.

    6. JRJoe Rogan54:01

       'Cause a lot of those combat sambo guys were... You know, they're really good at controlling people from the top position which, you know, arguably when you add in punches and elbows and stuff like that, that's more important than anything.

    7. BSBrian Simpson54:12

       Yeah.

    8. JRJoe Rogan54:13

       And they can submit you too.

    9. BSBrian Simpson54:14

       'Cause... And because it feels like whatever the answer...... to Khabib i- is, the- the next generation's gonna come up with doing that, as like natural, right?

    10. JRJoe Rogan54:27

        Right. Well, they're gonna encounter guys like that and they're gonna try to figure out counters to it. Or they're gonna get better at what they're doing, you know, like what, that, uh, that combalst, combat Sambo style, and they'll get better at it and incorporate other things to it. But Khabib's done that too, you just don't see it as much. Like when he submitted Justin Gaethje, he submitted him with, with a mounted triangle and then he finished him off of his back and put him to sleep. Like he can do all those other things too.

    11. BSBrian Simpson54:52

        That was, that was his last match.

    12. JRJoe Rogan54:53

        That was his last match.

    13. BSBrian Simpson54:54

        Yeah, yeah.

    14. JRJoe Rogan54:55

        But he, he submit, he almost got dust in at the end of the first round, and then finally submitted him in the second round. But it was brilliant. But it was as good as you'll ever see, like an elite brilliant J- B- B- Brazilian Jujitsu black belt do it. So he can do that too. He can submit you off his back too. But that pressure, that top pressure, the ability to take guys down and control them and beat the fuck out of them, shmash, what he calls it.

17. 55:19 – 1:06:08

    Paige VanZant ‘single’ tweet, then porn economics: OnlyFans and legalization debates

    1. BSBrian Simpson55:19

       By the way, side note, Paige VanZant tweeted that she was single yesterday.

    2. JRJoe Rogan55:24

       Oh, no.

    3. BSBrian Simpson55:24

       Just in case y'all was wondering.

    4. JRJoe Rogan55:25

       Is she tweeting stuff like that?

    5. BSBrian Simpson55:27

       She tweeted and unsent it.

    6. JRJoe Rogan55:28

       Can you imagine the amount of dick pics-

    7. BSBrian Simpson55:31

       (laughs)

    8. JRJoe Rogan55:33

       ... that must be coming that lady's way? It must be like locusts.

    9. BSBrian Simpson55:36

       Right. But it's like you gotta, the thing is, you gotta be a, you gotta be able to beat her to qualify. She's not fucking a dude weaker than her.

    10. JRJoe Rogan55:42

        No. Can you, you remember those like videos you'd see of like Kansas in the 1950s when the locusts would hit?

    11. BSBrian Simpson55:48

        (laughs)

    12. JRJoe Rogan55:49

        Bzzz. You can't even get to your car.

    13. BSBrian Simpson55:51

        Yeah. Yeah.

    14. JRJoe Rogan55:52

        That's probably what the dick pics are like coming at Paige VanZant. Must be unstoppable.

    15. BSBrian Simpson55:56

        I mean, it was probably like that beforehand. Like it was probably-

    16. JRJoe Rogan55:59

        I don't know.

    17. BSBrian Simpson55:59

        ... pretty bad beforehand, but now she's like, "I'm single everybody."

    18. JRJoe Rogan56:01

        Well, she just put the bat signal up.

    19. BSBrian Simpson56:03

        Right. Right.

    20. JRJoe Rogan56:03

        If she said, "I'm single," and she, she said, "I'm single," on s- fucking social media.

    21. BSBrian Simpson56:08

        I'm like, yeah, just get on one of them apps. The, get on Hinge or Raya or something.

    22. JRJoe Rogan56:11

        She doesn't have to do that.

    23. BSBrian Simpson56:13

        No?

    24. JRJoe Rogan56:13

        No. Just filter through those DMs.

    25. BSBrian Simpson56:14

        Do they have a, do they have a dating app just for fighters?

    26. JRJoe Rogan56:17

        That's a good question. There's not enough of them.

    27. BSBrian Simpson56:19

        No?

    28. JRJoe Rogan56:19

        It's so hard to become a fighter.

    29. BSBrian Simpson56:21

        Uh, I guess that's true.

    30. JRJoe Rogan56:22

        Yeah, you, that, I mean and to find female fighters? Oh my God. Good luck.
18. 1:06:08 – 1:09:19

    Taxes, criminals, and mob history: Capone, money laundering, and Ciro’s origins

    1. BSBrian Simpson1:06:08

       Even though you should. Did you know that you have to, you can still report illegal stuff to the IRS? Like, they encourage you to do so.

    2. JRJoe Rogan1:06:15

       Really?

    3. BSBrian Simpson1:06:15

       There's a wh- there's a form for ill-gotten gains.

    4. JRJoe Rogan1:06:18

       That's interesting.

    5. BSBrian Simpson1:06:19

       And it's so they, you know, 'cause that's how they-

    6. JRJoe Rogan1:06:21

       So they don't get you for tax evasion.

    7. BSBrian Simpson1:06:23

       Exactly.

    8. JRJoe Rogan1:06:23

       You, you'll only... Which is worse.

    9. BSBrian Simpson1:06:25

       And legally, technically they can't use it against you.

    10. JRJoe Rogan1:06:27

        Isn't that how they got Al Capone?

    11. BSBrian Simpson1:06:29

        That is how they got Al Capone.

    12. JRJoe Rogan1:06:30

        Tax evasion. (laughs)

    13. BSBrian Simpson1:06:31

        And he's not the only one. That's how they got, that's how they got Wesley Snipes.

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