Joe Rogan Experience #1926 - Matt McCusker & Shane Gillis

1. 0:00 – 1:18

   Matt & Shane’s history with Joe: weddings, friendships, and brutal best-man speeches

   1. NANarrator0:00

      (drum roll) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out.

   2. The Joe Rogan Experience. (energetic music) Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day.

   3. JRJoe Rogan0:13

      And we're up.

   4. SGShane Gillis0:14

      Yes.

   5. JRJoe Rogan0:15

      What's up, boys? What's happening?

   6. MMMatt McCusker0:16

      What's going on?

   7. SGShane Gillis0:17

      (laughs)

   8. MMMatt McCusker0:17

      Not much.

   9. JRJoe Rogan0:18

      Welcome aboard.

   10. MMMatt McCusker0:19

       I'm all strapped in. (laughs)

   11. SGShane Gillis0:20

       (laughs) Yeah, you got your paper in front of you, you're ready to go.

   12. MMMatt McCusker0:22

       No. Yeah, this was just here. How about it?

   13. SGShane Gillis0:23

       Just hit the book. You're ready to fucking take some notes, dude.

   14. MMMatt McCusker0:25

       Exactly.

   15. JRJoe Rogan0:26

       You seem like a guy ready to take notes.

   16. MMMatt McCusker0:28

       Ah, it's pretty accurate.

   17. SGShane Gillis0:29

       We'll jot some notes.

   18. JRJoe Rogan0:30

       (laughs)

   19. MMMatt McCusker0:30

       Counter points. Actually. (laughs)

   20. SGShane Gillis0:32

       You'll see some notes.

   21. JRJoe Rogan0:34

       (laughs) You guys start out together?

   22. SGShane Gillis0:35

       Yeah.

   23. JRJoe Rogan0:36

       Nice.

   24. SGShane Gillis0:36

       Lived together, moved together.

   25. JRJoe Rogan0:39

       Nice.

   26. SGShane Gillis0:39

       I was his best man at his wedding.

   27. JRJoe Rogan0:41

       Oh, shit.

   28. MMMatt McCusker0:41

       Yep.

   29. SGShane Gillis0:41

       This is my guy.

   30. MMMatt McCusker0:42

       Gave a speech.
2. 1:18 – 3:13

   Divorce realities and comedian survival mode: broke = ‘no financial pain’

   1. SGShane Gillis1:18

      Isn't it wild that, like, so many people get married, but half of them fail?

   2. JRJoe Rogan1:22

      Yeah.

   3. SGShane Gillis1:22

      Like, you would think that more people would be like, "Whoa, whoa, whoa."

   4. JRJoe Rogan1:25

      (laughs)

   5. SGShane Gillis1:25

      Matt's-

   6. MMMatt McCusker1:25

      I'm divorced. I was my second time around.

   7. SGShane Gillis1:27

      ... Matt's 50 years. (laughs)

   8. MMMatt McCusker1:27

      Oh, really? I got married relatively young, though.

   9. JRJoe Rogan1:30

      But I think then, it's like a practice run. Like, you learn, like, "Oh-"

   10. MMMatt McCusker1:33

       Exactly.

   11. JRJoe Rogan1:34

       ... "I can, I can fix this. Let me try this again."

   12. MMMatt McCusker1:36

       Yeah. I mean, girlfriends, that was just like, that was like free play mode. That didn't even count. Getting married is fucked up. When like your, like, I just, I got married the first time 'cause it was like, I was just like, "Yeah, I'll get married, I guess."

   13. JRJoe Rogan1:48

       When you got-

   14. SGShane Gillis1:48

       (laughs)

   15. MMMatt McCusker1:48

       That was all I thought. I was like, "Cool."

   16. JRJoe Rogan1:49

       When you got divorced, was it, was it a big de- was it a pain in the ass? Like, was it a big one?

   17. MMMatt McCusker1:54

       I mean, yeah.

   18. JRJoe Rogan1:54

       Or was it fairly-

   19. MMMatt McCusker1:55

       I mean, it wasn't like, you know, we didn't have kids, so it wasn't like, you know, like...

   20. JRJoe Rogan1:58

       But did you have to go through financial bullshit?

   21. MMMatt McCusker2:01

       No, I didn't have any money.

   22. JRJoe Rogan2:02

       That's good.

   23. SGShane Gillis2:02

       Jackpot.

   24. MMMatt McCusker2:02

       I had absolutely nothing.

   25. SGShane Gillis2:04

       But watching people get drained, watching, like, rich dudes get drained. And you see them going from not having to worry about anything to, like, "Oh, shit."

   26. JRJoe Rogan2:13

       Yeah.

   27. SGShane Gillis2:13

       Like, "How am I gonna cover my bills?" Yeah. I've seen-

   28. JRJoe Rogan2:17

       Get rid of houses.

   29. MMMatt McCusker2:17

       (laughs)

   30. SGShane Gillis2:17

       ... that house multiple times, man.
3. 3:13 – 5:13

   Stanhope’s house fire, desert cold, and how landscapes flip over geologic time

   1. JRJoe Rogan3:13

      Yeah, eventually. Yeah. Stanhope's roof, his ceiling caught on fire. Like what-

   2. SGShane Gillis3:17

      It was in his attic.

   3. JRJoe Rogan3:18

      Like, what was going on up there?

   4. SGShane Gillis3:19

      It was in his att- I don't, it was an electrical fire.

   5. JRJoe Rogan3:20

      Oh, yeah. No, that shit happens.

   6. SGShane Gillis3:22

      And he has, like, this metal roof, so it didn't, the roof didn't catch fire.

   7. JRJoe Rogan3:26

      Oh, no.

   8. SGShane Gillis3:27

      So his shit just-

   9. JRJoe Rogan3:27

      So just the house.

   10. SGShane Gillis3:27

       ... burned. Yeah.

   11. JRJoe Rogan3:29

       Is it fixed-

   12. SGShane Gillis3:30

       Fixed.

   13. JRJoe Rogan3:30

       ... or is it fucked for a while?

   14. SGShane Gillis3:30

       I doubt it. I think he's fucked for a couple months.

   15. JRJoe Rogan3:32

       Is he still living there?

   16. SGShane Gillis3:33

       No.

   17. JRJoe Rogan3:33

       I can see him living there with a big hole in the ceiling.

   18. SGShane Gillis3:36

       It would mean nothing to him.

   19. MMMatt McCusker3:37

       (laughs)

   20. JRJoe Rogan3:37

       Fucking view of the sky.

   21. SGShane Gillis3:38

       It would mean nothing to him.

   22. JRJoe Rogan3:39

       Let's go.

   23. MMMatt McCusker3:39

       It hardly rains out there anyway.

   24. SGShane Gillis3:40

       It gets cold at night. It does.

   25. JRJoe Rogan3:42

       Yeah, it gets cold.

   26. MMMatt McCusker3:42

       (laughs)

   27. JRJoe Rogan3:43

       Isn't it wild it's, like, near Mexico, but it gets cold as fuck? The desert's weird.

   28. MMMatt McCusker3:47

       Yeah, I've never been. I wanna go. It's awesome.

   29. JRJoe Rogan3:49

       But why does it get so cold? Does it not re- retain heat?

   30. MMMatt McCusker3:51

       The sand.
4. 5:13 – 11:47

   Climate change uncertainty, volcano myths, and what’s actually worth worrying about

   1. JRJoe Rogan5:13

      Mm. Well, if global warming does keep accelerating, that's the, what everybo- the people that have the most optimistic view of it, they say, "All the places that are wicked cold will just move into those."

   2. SGShane Gillis5:24

      I was listening to that, that guy. He was talking about how, like, the Midwest, like Minnesota-

   3. JRJoe Rogan5:27

      Yeah.

   4. SGShane Gillis5:27

      ... and shit. Like, Canada.

   5. MMMatt McCusker5:28

      Yeah. Yeah, it's gonna get-

   6. SGShane Gillis5:29

      It'll be nice.

   7. MMMatt McCusker5:29

      ... a lot warmer. I'm gonna re-cross the Bering Strait.

   8. JRJoe Rogan5:32

      Nice.

   9. SGShane Gillis5:32

      You gotta get back.

   10. MMMatt McCusker5:33

       I'm going back to Pamper.

   11. JRJoe Rogan5:33

       I think it's the opposite though, 'cause it's gonna get more water.

   12. MMMatt McCusker5:36

       Ah.

   13. JRJoe Rogan5:36

       You're looking at it wrong.

   14. MMMatt McCusker5:37

       So, I get my timeli- my time, uh, timelines for this.

   15. JRJoe Rogan5:38

       If an ice age happens, then you can make that walk.

   16. MMMatt McCusker5:41

       Need that (laughs) .

   17. SGShane Gillis5:42

       Yeah, that was my favorite Jones. He was like, "Fuck global warming. The ice caps are growing." And everyone was like, "Shut the fuck up." And then one quick Google, you're like, "Goddammit, he's right."

   18. MMMatt McCusker5:52

       They're growing?

   19. SGShane Gillis5:53

       Antarctica is.

   20. MMMatt McCusker5:55

       So, Leonardo DiCaprio-

   21. SGShane Gillis5:56

       Right?

   22. MMMatt McCusker5:56

       ... is wrong?

   23. SGShane Gillis5:56

       Leonardo DiCaprio can get fucked.

   24. JRJoe Rogan5:58

       He's seeing-

   25. MMMatt McCusker5:58

       Talk to the scientists.

   26. JRJoe Rogan5:59

       All these fucking scientists-

   27. MMMatt McCusker6:00

       (laughs)

   28. JRJoe Rogan6:01

       Even the scientists don't agree 'cause, like, there are, uh, there's a mass group of scientists that will tell you, and this is undeniable, that human beings have had a big impact-... on carbon emissions.

   29. MMMatt McCusker6:11

       Mm-hmm.

   30. JRJoe Rogan6:12

       But you know that volcano that just erupted? Where'd that volcano just erupt?
5. 11:47 – 16:50

   Ice Age survival: Inuit diets, Neanderthal strength, and ‘primal life’ fantasies

   1. JRJoe Rogan11:47

      I had Randall Carlson on my podcast. He's an expert in, uh, collisions, like, uh, cosmic collisions on Earth.

   2. SGShane Gillis11:54

      Yeah.

   3. JRJoe Rogan11:54

      And, uh, he said, "You don't..." He goes, "Global warming is not good." He goes, "But what's really bad is global cooling."

   4. SGShane Gillis12:00

      Oh.

   5. JRJoe Rogan12:01

      He goes, "Global cooling is terrifying." Global co-... Ice ages? That's where everybody dies.

   6. SGShane Gillis12:06

      Yeah.

   7. JRJoe Rogan12:06

      That's where there's no food. That's where you're, you're fucking starving to death.

   8. MMMatt McCusker12:10

      ... dude, how did we make it?

   9. SGShane Gillis12:12

      (blowing raspberry)

   10. MMMatt McCusker12:12

       How did we make it through the Ice Age? How do we-

   11. JRJoe Rogan12:14

       Well, you have to move.

   12. MMMatt McCusker12:16

       How did we-

   13. JRJoe Rogan12:16

       You, you moved, you know.

   14. MMMatt McCusker12:18

       Oh, okay.

   15. JRJoe Rogan12:18

       Or the heartiest of hearty people, they hunted and gathered, like the Inuit. They're, they, they basically can't grow any vegetables.

   16. SGShane Gillis12:27

       What a fucking bullshit life.

   17. JRJoe Rogan12:29

       What a scary life, dude.

   18. SGShane Gillis12:30

       In a fucking ice cave, just-

   19. JRJoe Rogan12:31

       You're living in an ice house, covered in animal skins.

   20. SGShane Gillis12:34

       Hopefully you stab something in the next month, you could eat it.

   21. JRJoe Rogan12:36

       And you're just looking for fat.

   22. SGShane Gillis12:37

       Yeah.

   23. JRJoe Rogan12:37

       You're just looking for blubber to eat.

   24. MMMatt McCusker12:39

       Yeah.

   25. JRJoe Rogan12:39

       'Cause that's what your body uses for fuel.

   26. MMMatt McCusker12:42

       Even im- imagine how much you could just, like, slide on ice, though.

   27. SGShane Gillis12:45

       Yeah.

   28. JRJoe Rogan12:45

       Probably a lot of sliding. That's probably true.

   29. MMMatt McCusker12:47

       (laughs) You'd be fucking in there.

   30. JRJoe Rogan12:48

       You'd be fucking nasty, dude.
6. 16:50 – 19:40

   Fear Factor memories → pro-wrestling chaos: Chyna, X-Pac, and the ‘Bronco Buster’

   1. JRJoe Rogan16:50

      Dude, I did, uh, Fear Factor with Chyna.

   2. SGShane Gillis16:52

      Xena.

   3. JRJoe Rogan16:52

      And after she'd won, when after she completed one of the stunts, she got out in like full flex and goes, "Who's the man?"

   4. MMMatt McCusker17:00

      Oh.

   5. JRJoe Rogan17:00

      She said, "Who's the man?"

   6. SGShane Gillis17:01

      Yeah.

   7. JRJoe Rogan17:02

      I guess it's just what you say.

   8. MMMatt McCusker17:04

      Yeah.

   9. SGShane Gillis17:04

      She had a wild voice.

   10. JRJoe Rogan17:05

       Tsh, big lady.

   11. SGShane Gillis17:06

       She did.

   12. MMMatt McCusker17:07

       How tall was she?

   13. JRJoe Rogan17:09

       Oh.

   14. SGShane Gillis17:09

       I don't know. But when women take steroids like that-

   15. JRJoe Rogan17:12

       (laughs)

   16. SGShane Gillis17:12

       ... they develop a, a male midget's voice.

   17. JRJoe Rogan17:15

       (laughs)

   18. MMMatt McCusker17:16

       (laughs)

   19. JRJoe Rogan17:16

       She was like, "Who's the man?"

   20. SGShane Gillis17:18

       (laughs)

   21. MMMatt McCusker17:18

       Shut, didn't X-Pac take her down?

   22. SGShane Gillis17:20

       Uh, you shouldn't say midget, so.

   23. JRJoe Rogan17:21

       Yeah, look at this.

   24. MMMatt McCusker17:22

       Midge.

   25. JRJoe Rogan17:23

       Coolio was on it.

   26. SGShane Gillis17:24

       Nice.

   27. JRJoe Rogan17:24

       Coolio won it.

   28. MMMatt McCusker17:25

       Damn.

   29. SGShane Gillis17:26

       Ruggies, ruggies.

   30. JRJoe Rogan17:28

       There she is.
7. 19:40 – 33:11

   Saudi WWE rumors, Attitude Era nostalgia, and wrestlers’ bodies getting destroyed

   1. JRJoe Rogan19:40

      Hey, what do you... What do you... Uh, what do you think about the Saudis buying the W- WWE? The rumor, the unsubstantiated rumor-

   2. SGShane Gillis19:47

      I've heard it.

   3. JRJoe Rogan19:47

      ... that the Saudis are buying WWE.

   4. SGShane Gillis19:48

      You met Lemaire. He's, he's an autistic man. He loves WWE.

   5. JRJoe Rogan19:52

      Oh.

   6. SGShane Gillis19:52

      And he's, he's not happy about it.

   7. JRJoe Rogan19:54

      Yeah, he was very mad last night in the green room.

   8. SGShane Gillis19:57

      He's upset.

   9. Why?

   10. JRJoe Rogan19:57

       W- all him and Tony would do is talk about it last night in the green room.

   11. SGShane Gillis20:00

       Oh, Tony likes wrestling.

   12. JRJoe Rogan20:00

       Dude, they were very upset.

   13. SGShane Gillis20:01

       Are they gonna let, like, the wrestlers hit women and shit?

   14. Well, that's the thing. They're saying that they might not... Their conspiracy is no women.

   15. JRJoe Rogan20:08

       (laughs)

   16. SGShane Gillis20:08

       (laughs)

   17. They're gonna be able to bulldog all of 'em.

   18. (laughs)

   19. It's gonna be Attitude Era again.

   20. JRJoe Rogan20:11

       (laughs)

   21. SGShane Gillis20:11

       Just be pulling women out of cars.

   22. Dude, they're gonna 3D May off the fucking jumbotron. Remember when they did that?

   23. (laughs)

   24. There was an old woman-

   25. JRJoe Rogan20:17

       They're gonna bring him in to do that on chicks.

   26. SGShane Gillis20:19

       There was an old woman in the WWF, and they... These two dudes... You remember the Dudley? Wasn't it the Dudley ones?

   27. Dudley Twins, yeah.

   28. Dude, they tossed-

   29. JRJoe Rogan20:26

       Dudley Brothers.

   30. SGShane Gillis20:26

       ... like, a 80-year-old woman off the... Jamie.
8. 33:11 – 42:02

   Comedy road lows and podcast grind: Panera days, stolen jokes, and why you should still podcast

   1. JRJoe Rogan33:11

      No, I went to see the f- The Rock one with my kids. I loved it.

   2. SGShane Gillis33:13

      All right. With kids, maybe, dude. I would-

   3. JRJoe Rogan33:15

      Check the record I played Jumanji.

   4. SGShane Gillis33:17

      I had a... I had a rough one.

   5. JRJoe Rogan33:17

      (laughs) I played Jumanji.

   6. SGShane Gillis33:19

      You liked Jumanji?

   7. JRJoe Rogan33:19

      We played it.

   8. SGShane Gillis33:20

      You guys have kids.

   9. JRJoe Rogan33:20

      It's a good movie. It's a good movie if you have kids.

   10. MMMatt McCusker33:21

       I was gonna watch it at 4:00. I watched it at 4:00.

   11. SGShane Gillis33:23

       I was in Boston by myself.

   12. JRJoe Rogan33:25

       (laughs)

   13. SGShane Gillis33:25

       I was doing comedy. I had to kill a whole day. I had nowhere to stay.

   14. JRJoe Rogan33:28

       (laughs)

   15. SGShane Gillis33:28

       I went to a Panera Bread by my-

   16. JRJoe Rogan33:30

       (laughs)

   17. SGShane Gillis33:30

       I had never drank coffee before in my life.

   18. JRJoe Rogan33:32

       (laughs)

   19. SGShane Gillis33:33

       I was like 30. I'd never drank coffee. (laughs) I just... Chugging cold brews all day.

   20. MMMatt McCusker33:38

       Ugh.

   21. SGShane Gillis33:38

       I didn't know it would give you a panic attack. I had-

   22. JRJoe Rogan33:40

       (laughs)

   23. SGShane Gillis33:41

       And then I went and saw Jumanji by myself at like 2:30 PM.

   24. MMMatt McCusker33:45

       Oh, my God.

   25. SGShane Gillis33:46

       And I was in there just like, "Holy shit, dude."

   26. MMMatt McCusker33:48

       (laughs)

   27. SGShane Gillis33:48

       "I'm a fucking moron." (laughs) I saw Jumanji by myself.

   28. MMMatt McCusker33:52

       I feel bad.

   29. SGShane Gillis33:53

       And then I called Matt and I was like, "Man, I want to quit comedy, dude. I'm so fucking sad." (laughs)

   30. MMMatt McCusker34:00

       (laughs)
9. 42:02 – 48:48

   War footage on phones, ‘Dog General’ meme culture, and Geneva Convention ammo rules

   1. JRJoe Rogan42:02

      Dude, there's footage, there's footage that comes out of this war-

   2. SGShane Gillis42:05

      Also another Joe Schmo, 0 for fucking 8.

   3. MMMatt McCusker42:08

      (laughs)

   4. JRJoe Rogan42:08

      There's footage that's come out of this war that is different than any footage of any war that I've ever seen because it's on cell phones.

   5. SGShane Gillis42:15

      Yeah.

   6. MMMatt McCusker42:15

      Oh.

   7. JRJoe Rogan42:15

      There's so much cell phone footage from this war.

   8. SGShane Gillis42:18

      Dude, when planes are flying low over like apartments and shit.

   9. JRJoe Rogan42:20

      Yeah, but I'm talking about like one-on-one combat situations with guns.

   10. SGShane Gillis42:25

       Yeah.

   11. JRJoe Rogan42:25

       Like I've seen a bunch of them now. And one I saw yesterday was this guy was, uh, in a, in a gunfight in the woods. So he's hiding behind trees and the trees have like big chunks of fucking wood missing from them 'cause a bullet just hit it.

   12. SGShane Gillis42:40

       Yeah.

   13. JRJoe Rogan42:40

       I mean, like a, like a fucking movie, right? And he runs to these Ukrainian guys that are in a foxhole and he's got the drop on them. And I don't know what he's saying, like he's saying, "Surrender, give..." And the guy reaches up to grab his gun and he ices the both of them in the head.

   14. SGShane Gillis42:56

       Ugh.

   15. JRJoe Rogan42:56

       Down, down at close range.

   16. SGShane Gillis42:59

       Ugh.

   17. JRJoe Rogan42:59

       From three feet away. And you're watching just like, "Holy shit."

   18. MMMatt McCusker43:02

       Jesus.

   19. JRJoe Rogan43:04

       ... like, this is what they're going through over there. This is, this, this is the real war.

   20. MMMatt McCusker43:08

       God damn.

   21. JRJoe Rogan43:08

       This is really what wars are. And they're filming it on their cellphones.

   22. MMMatt McCusker43:11

       Yeah.

   23. SGShane Gillis43:11

       Now imagine a furry.

   24. MMMatt McCusker43:14

       (laughs)

   25. SGShane Gillis43:14

       That's in a drone just like, "What are they doing down there? Ber-ber-berru." (laughs)

   26. MMMatt McCusker43:17

       It's like Spaceballs, he's up in the ship. (laughs)

   27. JRJoe Rogan43:19

       Whoop. He sends up drone strikes. Ooh. Ooh. Ooh. Well, that would be the scariest thing if someone had real drone, like those dog drones with guns on them. Ugh.

   28. SGShane Gillis43:28

       Oh.

   29. JRJoe Rogan43:28

       And they just sent those after people.

   30. SGShane Gillis43:29

       Yeah.
10. 48:48 – 59:33

    Death penalty errors and justice incentives → politics, media bias, and ‘reasonable middle’ frustration

    1. MMMatt McCusker48:48

       True.

    2. JRJoe Rogan48:48

       To... We're still doing the death penalty. We know how many people are innocent that are on death row.

    3. MMMatt McCusker48:52

       Yeah.

    4. JRJoe Rogan48:52

       We know. We know we're killing innocent people.

    5. MMMatt McCusker48:55

       Fuck.

    6. JRJoe Rogan48:55

       They're like, "Yeah, but uh, fucking win's a win."Win's a win. (imitates drum roll)

    7. SGShane Gillis49:00

       Yeah.

    8. MMMatt McCusker49:00

       Yeah.

    9. JRJoe Rogan49:00

       Yeah, I mean-

    10. SGShane Gillis49:01

        It is one innocent person's... That's terrible.

    11. MMMatt McCusker49:03

        Oh, that sucks.

    12. SGShane Gillis49:04

        Imagine being-

    13. MMMatt McCusker49:05

        Insane.

    14. SGShane Gillis49:05

        ... falsely accused the whole time, and you're like, "No."

    15. JRJoe Rogan49:07

        Dude, I've had multiple men like that on my podcast-

    16. SGShane Gillis49:10

        Ugh.

    17. JRJoe Rogan49:11

        ... because of the stuff that I do with Josh Dubin, who used to be an ambassador for the Innocence Project-

    18. SGShane Gillis49:15

        Yeah.

    19. JRJoe Rogan49:15

        ... and then he went off to... He's released dozens of these people, and the stories are hard. Well, you're crying. I'm doing a podcast-

    20. SGShane Gillis49:21

        Might've heard one you had on air.

    21. JRJoe Rogan49:23

        I- I've- I've had a few of him on.

    22. SGShane Gillis49:23

        The guy with the little girl, and it was DNA reversed it. Maybe it was on here.

    23. JRJoe Rogan49:26

        Yeah, there's been a bunch of 'em.

    24. SGShane Gillis49:28

        Oh.

    25. MMMatt McCusker49:28

        There's been a bunch of 'em.

    26. SGShane Gillis49:28

        They're like, "We saw you with her the last time." That was all it took.

    27. JRJoe Rogan49:32

        Yeah.

    28. SGShane Gillis49:32

        And then they found he couldn't afford DNA testing or something.

    29. JRJoe Rogan49:35

        Well, there was one guy who was an immigrant who, uh, c- walked into a trailer after this woman had murdered someone, and his footprints got everywhere, and they blamed him, and he was in jail for 20 years, like, that kind of shit.

    30. MMMatt McCusker49:46

        (laughs)
11. 59:33 – 1:06:04

    Third-party fantasies, UBI debate, and why video games can ruin your life

    1. JRJoe Rogan59:33

       I want Yang, dude.

    2. SGShane Gillis59:34

       Yang's a beast. (laughs)

    3. JRJoe Rogan59:35

       I hope he starts it. I just want a new po- I don't care what he does. I just want a new party to win. Be fun to just, like, knock the other shit up.

    4. SGShane Gillis59:42

       You were Yang gang early.

    5. JRJoe Rogan59:43

       Yeah, I like the idea of just fucking-

    6. SGShane Gillis59:44

       You liked UBI at first.

    7. JRJoe Rogan59:46

       You like universal basic income?

    8. SGShane Gillis59:46

       What, are you a communist? (laughs)

    9. JRJoe Rogan59:48

       No, I thought it was a cool idea. Try it.

    10. SGShane Gillis59:49

        (laughs)

    11. JRJoe Rogan59:49

        I might think it's just try... We should do wild experiments, just try it out.

    12. SGShane Gillis59:52

        Dude, I thought it was a t- cool idea until people started getting money during the pandemic and they didn't want to go back to work.

    13. JRJoe Rogan59:57

        Ah, yeah.

    14. SGShane Gillis59:57

        And I was like, "Oh, no, this is what happens."

    15. JRJoe Rogan59:59

        Yeah.

    16. SGShane Gillis59:59

        Yeah.

    17. JRJoe Rogan59:59

        Then you try to go to Starbucks at a rest stop.

    18. NANarrator1:00:01

        (laughs)

    19. JRJoe Rogan1:00:01

        Yeah, you'd have a collapse of the service industry.

    20. SGShane Gillis1:00:03

        One person. (laughs)

    21. JRJoe Rogan1:00:03

        You'd colla- collapse of jobs that suck.

    22. SGShane Gillis1:00:05

        Yeah.

    23. JRJoe Rogan1:00:06

        But you would also have a resurgence of people doing what they actually want to do. It wouldn't be everybody, but it would give a good chunk of people an opportunity to try something that they've always wanted to do, where they don't have to worry about subsistence, right? They don't have to worry about food and rent.

    24. SGShane Gillis1:00:21

        Mm-hmm.

    25. JRJoe Rogan1:00:21

        And then they can go pursue a dream. But how many are gonna do that? I don't know. Is it worth trying? It might be. I don't know. I mean, but human nature, the problem with, with... Human nature, like people, if you give them stuff and make them so they don't have to do anything, they don't do things.

    26. SGShane Gillis1:00:36

        Yeah.

    27. JRJoe Rogan1:00:36

        That's a l- a lot of people. But a lot of people wouldn't. They would look at it as an opportunity. It's like, it's almost like you need to educate peoples, like, what gives you meaning in life. And I know being lazy is, like, very attractive. It's, it's, it, it draws you to it. It's so comfortable to just sit on the couch and play video games and do nothing, but you're gonna get depressed.

    28. SGShane Gillis1:00:56

        (laughs)

    29. JRJoe Rogan1:00:56

        You're gonna get depressed.

    30. SGShane Gillis1:00:58

        (laughs)

Episode duration: 3:18:01