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Joe Rogan Experience #1939 - B-Real

B-Real is a hip hop artist, actor, podcaster, and entrepreneur. He's a member of the rap group Cypress Hill, host of several podcasts, including "Dr. Greenthumb" and "The Smokebox," and founder of Dr. Greenthumb’s and Insane Cannabis, Phuncky Feel Tips, and Insane Clothing.  www.breal.tv

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Jun 27, 20243h 11mWatch on YouTube ↗

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  1. 0:00 – 3:33

    Escaping LA: politics, taxes, and whether the city can recover

    1. JR

      (drumming music) Joe Rogan podcast. Check it out.

    2. NA

      The Joe Rogan Experience.

    3. JR

      Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night. All day. (instrumental music)

    4. B-

      It's good to be here, bro.

    5. JR

      Good to see you, my friend.

    6. B-

      Yeah.

    7. JR

      We're up and at 'em. What's going on, man?

    8. B-

      Chilling, man. Working hard, as always.

    9. JR

      Escape from LA.

    10. B-

      Escape from LA, man.

    11. JR

      (laughs)

    12. B-

      That thing... You know, every time we go on tour, that's, (laughs) that's what I look at. Like, any shows, all right, we're get- getting away for, for a little bit.

    13. JR

      Just take a breather.

    14. B-

      Yeah.

    15. JR

      Although it's like, I have hope LA comes back. I really do. I hope it reemerges as what it used to be or better, but-

    16. B-

      Yeah. You know, I believe it, it can, too.

    17. JR

      Sure.

    18. B-

      And it, it, it possibly might, man. But it, it, it's gonna take a minute before (laughs) we get the right people in there-

    19. JR

      I know.

    20. B-

      ... running the spot, man.

    21. JR

      Who are the right people though? That's the problem.

    22. B-

      That's, that's hard to say, right? 'Cause-

    23. JR

      Yeah.

    24. B-

      I mean, it's, it's just hard to trust any politician these days, man.

    25. JR

      (laughs)

    26. B-

      I mean, my friends have hit me up like, "Hey, when are you gonna run for mayor?" I'm like, "I'm never running for mayor."

    27. JR

      (laughs)

    28. B-

      Are you crazy?

    29. JR

      Bro, you would win.

    30. B-

      I probably would in that, that-

  2. 3:33 – 4:58

    California cannabis money: tax revenue, where it goes, and why legal operators get squeezed

    1. B-

      You know, like... So, cannabis, we know, generates California a huge amount of, of, uh, you know-

    2. JR

      Yeah.

    3. B-

      ... capital, right? And where did it go? Where does it go, right?

    4. JR

      Where does it go?

    5. B-

      They don't, they don't ever tell you where it goes, but I could tell you there's a bridge up there on 6th Street. Had to get the money from somewhere, right?

    6. JR

      Yeah. Well, cannabis, I mean, what is the amount that cannabis is generating for California? It's gotta be enormous.

    7. B-

      Yeah, it was for a time. Um-

    8. JR

      For a time? It's not anymore?

    9. B-

      Uh, uh, it goes up and down. You know, in the pandemic, oddly enough, people had a lot of money to spend because of the checks and stuff like that. But now the checks have, have run out (laughs) and, and they got less money to spend. So, you know, it's, it's always a rollercoaster ride as it relates to what sales will be-

    10. JR

      There it is right there.

    11. B-

      Yeah.

    12. JR

      Marijuana tax revenue, $1,294,632,799.

    13. B-

      Yeah, I believe we're the highest taxed state as it relates to cannabis, and it's crazy. It's a-

    14. JR

      Yeah, look at the difference between Colorado, which also has a lot of weed, only $423 million.

    15. B-

      Yeah. They, they gouge us, man. I mean, we, we saved... Well, the, the industry saved the state. I mean, it... You know, you lived there-

    16. JR

      Yeah.

    17. B-

      ... for, for many years and California was in debt.

    18. JR

      Yeah.

    19. B-

      We had no surplus. Now we got surplus, we can build bridges that are multi- multimillion dollar bridges. Yeah.

  3. 4:58 – 6:30

    Licensing bottlenecks and the thriving black market

    1. JR

      I had, um, Marianna von Zeller on the podcast, from that television show, Trafficked. I don't know if you've seen that show.

    2. B-

      Yeah.

    3. JR

      It's a great show on the National Geographic.

    4. B-

      Yes, it's crazy.

    5. JR

      Crazy. Like she's boots on the ground journalist. She goes into the jungle where the cocaine manufacturers are. She went to the Congo for the, dealing with people that are trafficking in the great apes. Wild show.

    6. B-

      Wow. Yeah.

    7. JR

      Wild shit. But she was talking about one of the problems with California is it's so difficult to get a license-

    8. B-

      Yeah.

    9. JR

      ... to sell weed regularly that the, the, like f- like illegal sales of weed are up way more-

    10. B-

      Yeah.

    11. JR

      ... than regular. So they're not getting taxed on that because they made it difficult for people.

    12. B-

      Yeah, uh, the people that operate legally are the, are the ones getting tapped the hardest because you gotta pay for all these, uh, regulations and all these fees and the taxation, whether you're in the cultivation aspect of it or you're the retail manufacturer, distribution, any of it, man. I mean, it, it's... The taxation to operate is, is high and the taxes on the, on the consumer as well.So when you have that factored in, and you got these, these guys that are trapping, as they call it, right, black market style, yeah, they're, they're making all the money and, and, and (laughs) the state isn't really doing anything about that. And they make it hard to get a license for people who might actually be able to navigate the business. But it's just so many hoops you gotta jump through, man.

    13. JR

      So much regulation.

    14. B-

      Yeah.

    15. JR

      Yeah. It's unfortunate, but at least it's legal now.

    16. B-

      Yes.

  4. 6:30 – 7:50

    State-by-state legalization (and what’s next after weed)

    1. JR

      I mean, remember in 2016 when it became legal, we were in the middle of a podcast.

    2. B-

      Yeah.

    3. JR

      We were doing the End of the World podcast during the election, live at The Comedy Store, and then it, it came out that marijuana passed and it's legal.

    4. B-

      Yeah.

    5. JR

      And everybody cheered. It was, it was amazing. The whole place went, "Yeah."

    6. B-

      Yeah.

    7. JR

      But it's just, it's crazy that legally, like, federally, it's illegal.

    8. B-

      Yeah.

    9. JR

      It's still Schedule I.

    10. B-

      You know, what's crazy is that more states are rolling over. Like, you know, because the federal government is leaving it, leaving it up to the state-

    11. JR

      Yeah.

    12. B-

      ... to decide, right? And some states are seeing what's happening in places like Colorado and, and where the taxin- taxation ain't so high and they are actually making a lot of money, or the state is making a lot of money through cannabis. They're starting to consider it, right? So you're seeing states roll over one at a time. Like New York-

    13. JR

      Yeah.

    14. B-

      ... for instance. We thought that should've been, like, way sooner.

    15. JR

      Way sooner, yeah.

    16. B-

      But we thought, okay, when New York rolls, then let's just say Florida and Boston roll, everywhere else will roll over slowly. And that's, and that's kind of what's happening. So, I mean, I think it's just a matter of time, man, where, where we will have it federally legal, but we're gonna all pay the price until.

    17. JR

      Yeah, then mushrooms.

    18. B-

      Then mushrooms.

    19. JR

      Mushrooms gotta make its way through.

    20. B-

      Oh, man.

    21. JR

      Oh, man.

  5. 7:50 – 10:25

    Psilocybin as therapy: microdosing, PTSD, and the need for guides

    1. B-

      They gotta make it... Uh, you know, the, what's crazy is the studies that, that they've been coming up with as of late, like how they've been, uh, using microdose and moderate dose to treat people with, uh, depression and anxiety and all the other, all the other business, you know what I mean?

    2. JR

      Oh, yeah.

    3. B-

      And, uh, you know, some therapists are talking about how they're actually using microdoses to, to, uh, to help people, like, let's just say, that they had some sort of ailment like mi- migraines, for instance, right?

    4. JR

      Mm-hmm.

    5. B-

      They, they, they say that they can disconnect whatever that is and rewire, you know, your, the, whatever it is causing the migraines to stop 'em.

    6. JR

      Yeah, we're the worst dudes to be talking about neurochemistry.

    7. B-

      Yeah, we are. (laughs)

    8. JR

      (laughs) Yeah, rewire... Yeah, I mean, supposedly, uh, ca- uh, psilocybin, rather, is one of the very best things for, for that.

    9. B-

      Yeah.

    10. JR

      For, uh, curing addictions and people that are dealing with, like, real serious problems with PTSD and, uh, people that are dying-

    11. B-

      Yeah.

    12. JR

      ... have massive anxiety, it alleviates end-of-life anxiety for them.

    13. B-

      Yes, people with anger issues, too.

    14. JR

      Mm-hmm.

    15. B-

      I mean, you know, it's, it... People that pop off (laughs) for any given reason, man. You give them some mi- microdoses and they're the nicest people in the world.

    16. JR

      Yeah, I mean, that's the b- that's for sure, uh, a factor with, uh, cannabis, too, man. I mean, cannabis makes people so much friendlier.

    17. B-

      Yeah, you know, you, you don't... I think it just put, it puts you in a relaxed state-

    18. JR

      Yeah.

    19. B-

      ... whe- whether you choose it or not.

    20. JR

      Right.

    21. B-

      Um, (laughs) -

    22. JR

      (laughs)

    23. B-

      I've s- I've stood out of a lot of altercations being as high as I am because, like, you know, somebody might throw an insult here and there and I may not even be paying attention to 'em.

    24. JR

      Yeah.

    25. B-

      Whatever. Whereas if I'm not, I'm totally paying attention to that.

    26. JR

      And it escalates.

    27. B-

      And it's gonna escalate.

    28. JR

      Yeah, which is the worst.

    29. B-

      'Cause a lot of us that are high-strung without it, man, it, it sort of grounds us out.

    30. JR

      Yeah. Yeah.

  6. 10:25 – 13:34

    Big trips, bad mixes, and why illegality makes psychedelics riskier

    1. B-

      Yeah, yeah. You know, like, we used to do mushrooms a lot. And I, I told that, I told a couple of stories when I was on, the last time I was here, but you know, that it used to be a part of our, our journey, man. Like, we'd get on stage, mushrooms, and, like, just go on the ride.

    2. JR

      Yeah.

    3. B-

      Um, after a while, I couldn't do it anymore. I couldn't, like, be on stage and, and be totally in the melt, we call it-

    4. JR

      Hmm.

    5. B-

      ... where it's, like, where it's above micro, it's above moderate, like-

    6. JR

      Right.

    7. B-

      ... you're full melt, right?

    8. JR

      (laughs)

    9. B-

      As they say. And, and it was harder for me to be in front of people doing that because I had, like, these, these issues deeply rooted that I was angry about and every time I got to that place, that's what I'd focus on, and I didn't wanna feel that ugliness.

    10. JR

      Hmm.

    11. B-

      So I waited till I got over whatever that, that issue was and then I started, you know, slowly doing mushrooms again, f- microdosing first and then moderate and I started feeling good about it again and I realized how much, you know, it actually helped me push away from whatever that issue was when I did it the first time.

    12. JR

      Yeah, just something you were focusing on, right?

    13. B-

      Yeah, I was just-

    14. JR

      You just needed to work out.

    15. B-

      Yeah, I often say, if you're, if you're gonna try mushrooms beyond micro-

    16. JR

      Yeah.

    17. B-

      ... right, like, try to deal with whatever issues you got before you go in and have a friend there to help you-

    18. JR

      (laughs)

    19. B-

      ... like, to be in the world there with you, you know?

    20. JR

      Yeah, that's what everybody used to use, a sitter. That was the-

    21. B-

      Yeah.

    22. JR

      ... always the big thing. If you, if you did mushrooms, you should have a sitter. You know, and, and, uh, in the best case scenario, you would have qualified professionals that would assist in psychedelic...... therapy, which-

    23. B-

      Right.

    24. JR

      ... which is what happens for a lot of people. You know, I know people that have done that in other states where it's legal or illegal. And where it's legal, I mean, it's amazing. You can go to a place and someone who understands the experience and knows what to do-

    25. B-

      Yeah.

    26. JR

      ... can help you through it. And I know people that have made some big breakthroughs in their life, and just really just sort of reassessed how they interface with the world because of that.

    27. B-

      Yeah, man. I mean, (sighs) if you could find something that would help you get past whatever is, is, um, you know, holding you back or troubling you, weighing you down, man, I mean-

    28. JR

      (smacks lips)

    29. B-

      ... uh, better than ta- uh, taking any of these over-the-counter drugs for that, that might suppress those feelings or thoughts, then have you deal with them and get past them.

    30. JR

      Yeah. Well, that kind of thinking is why it's gonna stay illegal. (laughs)

  7. 13:34 – 16:33

    From OxyContin to fentanyl: addiction as a ‘chemical demon’

    1. JR

      It's just, you know, um, I've been paying a lot of attention over the years, the, about the opiate crisis and the, the pill problem. And that's something we talked about with Marianna Venzant too 'cause when I first met her, uh, I had her on because she did this thing called the OxyContin Express-

    2. B-

      Right.

    3. JR

      ... where she explained the pill mills in Florida and how people would buy the oxys and bring them up the highway to Kentucky and all these places, and people with horrible addictions and horrible overdose stories, and it was all coming from Florida.

    4. B-

      Christ.

    5. JR

      And there was, there was no database. So you could have a back... "Ah, my back hurts." You go to this place. They go, "Oh, you need OxyContin."

    6. B-

      Mm-hmm.

    7. JR

      And literally go right next door to the same building, and that's where they give you the oxy, and that's all they prescribe. And they don't have a database, so then you go down the street to another doctor 'cause these pain management clinics-

    8. B-

      Huh.

    9. JR

      ... were everywhere.

    10. B-

      That seems like that's ... it's, it's a thing in Florida with-

    11. JR

      It was.

    12. B-

      Yeah.

    13. JR

      It was a thing in Florida. They cleaned it up.

    14. B-

      I mean, they, they had this, uh, this-

    15. JR

      Allegedly.

    16. B-

      They had this show called Claws, right, that, um, (smacks lips) old girl, um, that, that did Reno 911, Niecy Nash, right? She, she starred in this, uh, TV show called Claws. And, uh, it's, it's, it's her and a, a group of women, you know, trying to come up in a salon, like, you know, make the best salon. But the w- uh, the other, the other way that they're making money is, you know, through the pills and through one of these type of, uh, you know, one of these type of clinics. And it's basically showing you the game on how people are doing (laughs) in Florida, how these, how these folks ... this is, like, a thing out there.

    17. JR

      Yeah.

    18. B-

      The, the pain management clinics and all that stuff-

    19. JR

      Mm-hmm.

    20. B-

      ... with the OxyContin, all, all that stuff. What trips me out is it ... You know, this fentanyl thing, right? People know about it. It, it's been out there, yet they'll still challenge themselves (laughs) and try to, like, party like, like the shit ain't present.

    21. JR

      Yes.

    22. B-

      It's like the gamble they're taking with that, it, it just blows my mind.

    23. JR

      I think that hard drug addiction is a different thing.

    24. B-

      Yeah.

    25. JR

      I really think it's a different thing. I haven't experienced it, but I have friends that have, and they get scared like they got captured by a demon. And when they get clean, they don't wanna fuck around with nothing.

    26. B-

      Yeah, yeah.

    27. JR

      They're like, "Dude, you don't understand. I got captured by a demon." And it's kind of a, a ... You wonder, like, when, when people talk about, like, demonic possession. Like, that was always a thing back in the day.

    28. B-

      Yeah.

    29. JR

      Before, you know, people really had an understanding of human psychology and all, all, all ... myths and lores and what people were terrified of, like demonic possession was a real thing. But if you think about what happens to someone when they get really hooked on meth, I mean how-

    30. B-

      Yeah.

  8. 16:33 – 58:58

    PCP, ketamine, and wild stories about dissociatives

    1. JR

      Oof.

    2. B-

      ... when people were doing the PCP thing back in the day, right?

    3. JR

      Mm-hmm.

    4. B-

      You know, back in, in South Gate when Sed and I were like, you know, younger before we were, um, you know ... well, while we were in demo stages, right, doing our demos and stuff like that, we'd, you know, trek around the city. You know, like, go to parties and stuff like that, house parties if you will. And every now and then, you know, 'cause we were broke-ass bastards, we didn't always have cars. We'd be walking to the parties and stuff like that from where we ... you know, Cypress or whatever. And every now and then, you would come across a couple of, you know, gangsters that were PCPed out. And these dudes, I mean, like if you got into some shit with them, you were dealing with someone who didn't know their strength and their abilities at that point.

    5. JR

      Yeah, they would break handcuffs.

    6. B-

      They ... Yeah, they would break handcuffs. We seen, like, so-

    7. JR

      Is that real? Did people really break handcuffs on PCP or is that one of those myths?

    8. B-

      Well, they-

    9. JR

      'Cause I had always heard that people did that.

    10. B-

      They could definitely, definitely break windows like nothing.

    11. JR

      They'd do wild shit.

    12. B-

      (laughs) Do wild shit. So there was this kid in South Gate who was ... he was a, he was a gangbanger. And a lot of, a lot of other people in the area, they didn't wanna fuck with him 'cause he w- him and his brother were kinda crazy, right? And they had, like, reputations. And there was another contingency of gangsters that wanted to get at him, right? So this guy was sitting on his porch one day by himself. His brothers and, and the rest of his guys were not there with him. He was outside of his mother's house chilling. And these dudes roll up on him with a shotgun, and they blast him. They, you know, buckshot him-... him, you know, in his stomach, all that, and, uh, they take off. They leave him there for dead- dead. That's what was the intention, right? And this dude was on PCP (laughs) at the time. They did not know he was on PCP. Nobody knew until the paramedics came, got him. And that's what, that, oddly enough, is what saved him, is that he didn't go into shock. He was just like, "Whoa." You know? Like ...

    13. JR

      Wow.

    14. B-

      So slowed down and possessed by (laughs) the PCP or whatever the hell he was on. Um, and he lived through that, you know? And it wasn't like ... It was a short distance that they blasted him with all them buckshots. I mean, it had to be painful, (laughs) but he didn't feel a goddamn thing, apparently. And, uh, he felt it the next day, obviously. But he lived through that-

    15. JR

      Jesus Christ.

    16. B-

      ... while he was on the PCP, and that's crazy 'cause-

    17. JR

      (laughs) Is it good for you? (laughs)

    18. B-

      Well, 'cause it's not-

    19. JR

      Isn't that a big conspiracy, PCP?

    20. B-

      Well, well, I would say that had he not been on it, he would've went into shock, and sure enough, died right there on that porch.

    21. JR

      Wow.

    22. B-

      But that's-

    23. JR

      Like imagine if that's, that becomes a thing. Like it turns out to be true that if you're on PCP when you get wounded, you're more likely to survive. That would be crazy.

    24. B-

      Yeah.

    25. JR

      'Cause if- if you ... What is that elevated state? Isn't PCP ... I'm, uh, isn't is related to ketamine in some way? Didn't someone say that on the, on the podcast and it freaked us out?

    26. NA

      Oh, like it was one chemi- like one thing alone.

    27. JR

      Yeah, like so I think it's really related-

    28. B-

      Some guys-

    29. JR

      Like real close to ketamine or something.

    30. B-

      Some guys used to smoke and bo- like their-

  9. 58:58 – 1:00:43

    Legalize everything? Education vs propaganda and Europe comparisons

    1. JR

      Do you think that this country could, uh, survive legalization of hard drugs like cocaine? Like, what, uh, what do you think... uh, you, you envision that that would... like, we all want cannabis, and it seems like cannabis is gonna happen. It seems like it's on, on the way to happening.

    2. B-

      I think you have to educate people more and be open to educate them properly instead of propaganda education, where it's you're just telling them half truths to let them know what you want them to know. Like, in Europe, they're, they're a little bit more with the shits in terms of, you know, how they deal with, with alcohol, how they deal with drugs, how they deal with nudity on TV, just-

    3. JR

      Yeah.

    4. B-

      ... little things like that. We are so uptight over here that it, you know, we're, we're afraid to teach people about these things because, uh, we f- you know, maybe that education will lead them there.

    5. JR

      Hmm.

    6. B-

      As opposed to, like, say, being upfront with them, like, "Look, this is what it is. This is what happens..." and all the other shit instead of, "Hey, this over here? Don't do it," and that's it.

    7. JR

      Well, the problem is everybody's finding out from everybody else.

    8. B-

      Right. Uh, uh, you, uh, that's what I'm saying.

    9. JR

      Yeah.

    10. B-

      You have to educate them properly.

    11. JR

      Yeah, they're not... uh, you're, you're not getting good information from your friends about how much molly you should take.

    12. B-

      Right. You can't let someone-

    13. JR

      Yeah.

    14. B-

      ... else educate them. You ha-

    15. JR

      Yeah.

    16. B-

      You have to be the one to do it in- instead of the sheltering that we've gotten through, through most of our lives here. You know, us growing up-

    17. JR

      Yeah.

    18. B-

      ... our generation, our parents didn't wanna tell us shit, just-

    19. JR

      Yeah.

    20. B-

      ... "Don't do that."

    21. JR

      "Don't do that."

    22. B-

      And sometimes they didn't know how to explain why.

    23. JR

      Right.

    24. B-

      But we are in a different place and different time where energy, I mean, um, information is vast.

    25. JR

      Yeah.

    26. B-

      And you can get it at, at the click of a finger, you know, click f- a- a- at a key on your computer, you know what I mean? So...

  10. 1:00:43 – 1:07:00

    Information overload, immigration history, and the modern media landscape

    1. JR

      W- you just gotta also take into account that, like, people that live like us today, humans listening to this in 2023, this is a new type of person. This is a new type of informed person. People are so much more informed, even misinformed than they've ever been before. You're dealing with an information overload-

    2. B-

      Oh, yeah.

    3. JR

      ... that's never, never existed before. And, you know, if you just go back a couple generations, like, my, my grandparents came from Italy, so...... we're talking about, you know, they, they came over here during the Depression. They, they lived on a farm. Like, it was, uh, like, horrible, brutal shit-

    4. B-

      Yeah.

    5. JR

      ... in Italy. They came over to America. Like, those people that just got on a boat before YouTube-

    6. B-

      (laughs)

    7. JR

      ... and just made their way, they moved their whole family across the country, those are wild people, man.

    8. B-

      That's wild.

    9. JR

      And they were just trying to escape whatever the fuck was going on in Europe, which is probably even worse.

    10. B-

      'Cause-

    11. JR

      They're like, "Fuck it, I'll take a chance on a boat."

    12. B-

      Yeah.

    13. JR

      And then they got to America, and they fucking sign up. You could just be an American back then.

    14. B-

      Yeah.

    15. JR

      You know, you could just show up, and you were an American. Like, there was... It's not like today, where it's, like, these rigorous background checks.

    16. B-

      Oh, man.

    17. JR

      Like, back then, they just let immigrants in, right?

    18. B-

      Yeah.

    19. JR

      Like, what, what was it like to become an immigrant to America in 1920? I mean, did they turn anybody away?

    20. B-

      I don't think they turned anybody away, but, like, they definitely put them through it, you know?

    21. JR

      Am I talking out of my ass? I mean, did they, did they-

    22. B-

      No, they-

    23. JR

      ... have an extensive thing that they do-

    24. B-

      They let folks-

    25. JR

      ... to be, let someone become an American citizen back then? It seems like it's hard today.

    26. B-

      I, I think for some folks, they got put to work. You know, "Yeah, you can come in here, but we, we need-"

    27. JR

      Yeah.

    28. B-

      "... this and this and that, and you're gonna do that."

    29. JR

      Oh, okay.

    30. B-

      You know? Like, uh, have you been watching Yellowstone at all?

  11. 1:07:00 – 1:27:25

    Motivation and resilience: David Goggins, Nims Purja, and extreme endurance

    1. JR

      Da- David Goggins says he takes all of his haters, like all the shit that they said to him, and he puts it on, uh- uh, like a soundtrack, and he listens-

    2. B-

      (laughs)

    3. JR

      ... to it when he runs. He, he says it out. He reads it out.

    4. B-

      Oh, shit. That's his-

    5. JR

      You know how psycho he is?

    6. B-

      That's his Rocky anthem?

    7. JR

      Yeah.

    8. B-

      (laughs)

    9. JR

      Dude, he, he puts shit that people say about him, he, he puts it on an audio track and runs on it.

    10. B-

      ... uh, you know, I would imagine that's, that's liken to a boxer putting up the picture of the, the other boxer-

    11. JR

      Mm-hmm.

    12. B-

      ... that's been talking shit the whole time.

    13. JR

      Exactly.

    14. B-

      Or MMA fighter.

    15. JR

      Yeah.

    16. B-

      You know what I mean? Like, boom, here's this fucker on the wall.

    17. JR

      And in the movie, on the day of the fight, he rips the poster down.

    18. B-

      (laughs) Yeah.

    19. JR

      You motherfucker.

    20. B-

      You motherfucker, you're mine.

    21. JR

      Fuck you, I got you, bitch.

    22. B-

      (laughs)

    23. JR

      Yeah.

    24. B-

      That, A, that, A, that is an interesting way to fuel up, like-

    25. JR

      Yeah.

    26. B-

      ... to, to record all your hater statements (laughs) and just play it back to yourself.

    27. JR

      Well, if you listen to David's life story, David has, uh, two incredible books. They're, uh, they're amazing. And one of the things about the books that's so amazing is, you realize, like, what he endured as a child and what he went through, like, the, the abuse that he received and how he came out of that this, like, unstoppable dude.

    28. B-

      Yeah.

    29. JR

      And he was, like, fat at one point in time. He's open about all of it. He was, like, 300 pounds and just drinking milkshakes.

    30. B-

      Hmm.

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