EVERY SPOKEN WORD
150 min read · 30,054 words- 0:00 – 3:33
Leaving LA, local politics, and why leadership suddenly matters
- JRJoe Rogan
(drumming music) Joe Rogan podcast. Check it out.
- NANarrator
The Joe Rogan Experience.
- JRJoe Rogan
Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night. All day. (instrumental music)
- B-B-Real
It's good to be here, bro.
- JRJoe Rogan
Good to see you, my friend.
- B-B-Real
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
We're up and at 'em. What's going on, man?
- B-B-Real
Chilling, man. Working hard, as always.
- JRJoe Rogan
Escape from LA.
- B-B-Real
Escape from LA, man.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- B-B-Real
That thing... You know, every time we go on tour, that's, (laughs) that's what I look at. Like, any shows, all right, we're get- getting away for, for a little bit.
- JRJoe Rogan
Just take a breather.
- B-B-Real
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Although it's like, I have hope LA comes back. I really do. I hope it reemerges as what it used to be or better, but-
- B-B-Real
Yeah. You know, I believe it, it can, too.
- JRJoe Rogan
Sure.
- B-B-Real
And it, it, it possibly might, man. But it, it, it's gonna take a minute before (laughs) we get the right people in there-
- JRJoe Rogan
I know.
- B-B-Real
... running the spot, man.
- JRJoe Rogan
Who are the right people though? That's the problem.
- B-B-Real
That's, that's hard to say, right? 'Cause-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- B-B-Real
I mean, it's, it's just hard to trust any politician these days, man.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- B-B-Real
I mean, my friends have hit me up like, "Hey, when are you gonna run for mayor?" I'm like, "I'm never running for mayor."
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- B-B-Real
Are you crazy?
- JRJoe Rogan
Bro, you would win.
- B-B-Real
I probably would in that, that-
- 3:33 – 4:58
California cannabis taxes: where the money goes and why the market swings
- B-B-Real
You know, like... So, cannabis, we know, generates California a huge amount of, of, uh, you know-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- B-B-Real
... capital, right? And where did it go? Where does it go, right?
- JRJoe Rogan
Where does it go?
- B-B-Real
They don't, they don't ever tell you where it goes, but I could tell you there's a bridge up there on 6th Street. Had to get the money from somewhere, right?
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. Well, cannabis, I mean, what is the amount that cannabis is generating for California? It's gotta be enormous.
- B-B-Real
Yeah, it was for a time. Um-
- JRJoe Rogan
For a time? It's not anymore?
- B-B-Real
Uh, uh, it goes up and down. You know, in the pandemic, oddly enough, people had a lot of money to spend because of the checks and stuff like that. But now the checks have, have run out (laughs) and, and they got less money to spend. So, you know, it's, it's always a rollercoaster ride as it relates to what sales will be-
- JRJoe Rogan
There it is right there.
- B-B-Real
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Marijuana tax revenue, $1,294,632,799.
- B-B-Real
Yeah, I believe we're the highest taxed state as it relates to cannabis, and it's crazy. It's a-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, look at the difference between Colorado, which also has a lot of weed, only $423 million.
- B-B-Real
Yeah. They, they gouge us, man. I mean, we, we saved... Well, the, the industry saved the state. I mean, it... You know, you lived there-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- B-B-Real
... for, for many years and California was in debt.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- B-B-Real
We had no surplus. Now we got surplus, we can build bridges that are multi- multimillion dollar bridges. Yeah.
- 4:58 – 6:30
Licensing bottlenecks and the black-market problem
- JRJoe Rogan
I had, um, Marianna von Zeller on the podcast, from that television show, Trafficked. I don't know if you've seen that show.
- B-B-Real
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
It's a great show on the National Geographic.
- B-B-Real
Yes, it's crazy.
- JRJoe Rogan
Crazy. Like she's boots on the ground journalist. She goes into the jungle where the cocaine manufacturers are. She went to the Congo for the, dealing with people that are trafficking in the great apes. Wild show.
- B-B-Real
Wow. Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Wild shit. But she was talking about one of the problems with California is it's so difficult to get a license-
- B-B-Real
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
... to sell weed regularly that the, the, like f- like illegal sales of weed are up way more-
- B-B-Real
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
... than regular. So they're not getting taxed on that because they made it difficult for people.
- B-B-Real
Yeah, uh, the people that operate legally are the, are the ones getting tapped the hardest because you gotta pay for all these, uh, regulations and all these fees and the taxation, whether you're in the cultivation aspect of it or you're the retail manufacturer, distribution, any of it, man. I mean, it, it's... The taxation to operate is, is high and the taxes on the, on the consumer as well.So when you have that factored in, and you got these, these guys that are trapping, as they call it, right, black market style, yeah, they're, they're making all the money and, and, and (laughs) the state isn't really doing anything about that. And they make it hard to get a license for people who might actually be able to navigate the business. But it's just so many hoops you gotta jump through, man.
- JRJoe Rogan
So much regulation.
- B-B-Real
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. It's unfortunate, but at least it's legal now.
- B-B-Real
Yes.
- 6:30 – 7:50
Federal illegality, state-by-state momentum, and the next wave (mushrooms)
- JRJoe Rogan
I mean, remember in 2016 when it became legal, we were in the middle of a podcast.
- B-B-Real
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
We were doing the End of the World podcast during the election, live at The Comedy Store, and then it, it came out that marijuana passed and it's legal.
- B-B-Real
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
And everybody cheered. It was, it was amazing. The whole place went, "Yeah."
- B-B-Real
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
But it's just, it's crazy that legally, like, federally, it's illegal.
- B-B-Real
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
It's still Schedule I.
- B-B-Real
You know, what's crazy is that more states are rolling over. Like, you know, because the federal government is leaving it, leaving it up to the state-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- B-B-Real
... to decide, right? And some states are seeing what's happening in places like Colorado and, and where the taxin- taxation ain't so high and they are actually making a lot of money, or the state is making a lot of money through cannabis. They're starting to consider it, right? So you're seeing states roll over one at a time. Like New York-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- B-B-Real
... for instance. We thought that should've been, like, way sooner.
- JRJoe Rogan
Way sooner, yeah.
- B-B-Real
But we thought, okay, when New York rolls, then let's just say Florida and Boston roll, everywhere else will roll over slowly. And that's, and that's kind of what's happening. So, I mean, I think it's just a matter of time, man, where, where we will have it federally legal, but we're gonna all pay the price until.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, then mushrooms.
- B-B-Real
Then mushrooms.
- JRJoe Rogan
Mushrooms gotta make its way through.
- B-B-Real
Oh, man.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, man.
- 7:50 – 10:25
Psilocybin as therapy: depression, migraines, PTSD, addiction, and anger
- B-B-Real
They gotta make it... Uh, you know, the, what's crazy is the studies that, that they've been coming up with as of late, like how they've been, uh, using microdose and moderate dose to treat people with, uh, depression and anxiety and all the other, all the other business, you know what I mean?
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, yeah.
- B-B-Real
And, uh, you know, some therapists are talking about how they're actually using microdoses to, to, uh, to help people, like, let's just say, that they had some sort of ailment like mi- migraines, for instance, right?
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm-hmm.
- B-B-Real
They, they, they say that they can disconnect whatever that is and rewire, you know, your, the, whatever it is causing the migraines to stop 'em.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, we're the worst dudes to be talking about neurochemistry.
- B-B-Real
Yeah, we are. (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs) Yeah, rewire... Yeah, I mean, supposedly, uh, ca- uh, psilocybin, rather, is one of the very best things for, for that.
- B-B-Real
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
For, uh, curing addictions and people that are dealing with, like, real serious problems with PTSD and, uh, people that are dying-
- B-B-Real
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
... have massive anxiety, it alleviates end-of-life anxiety for them.
- B-B-Real
Yes, people with anger issues, too.
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm-hmm.
- B-B-Real
I mean, you know, it's, it... People that pop off (laughs) for any given reason, man. You give them some mi- microdoses and they're the nicest people in the world.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, I mean, that's the b- that's for sure, uh, a factor with, uh, cannabis, too, man. I mean, cannabis makes people so much friendlier.
- B-B-Real
Yeah, you know, you, you don't... I think it just put, it puts you in a relaxed state-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- B-B-Real
... whe- whether you choose it or not.
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- B-B-Real
Um, (laughs) -
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- B-B-Real
I've s- I've stood out of a lot of altercations being as high as I am because, like, you know, somebody might throw an insult here and there and I may not even be paying attention to 'em.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- B-B-Real
Whatever. Whereas if I'm not, I'm totally paying attention to that.
- JRJoe Rogan
And it escalates.
- B-B-Real
And it's gonna escalate.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, which is the worst.
- B-B-Real
'Cause a lot of us that are high-strung without it, man, it, it sort of grounds us out.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. Yeah.
- 10:25 – 12:51
Set, setting, and safety: stage tripping stories and the role of a sitter
- B-B-Real
Yeah, yeah. You know, like, we used to do mushrooms a lot. And I, I told that, I told a couple of stories when I was on, the last time I was here, but you know, that it used to be a part of our, our journey, man. Like, we'd get on stage, mushrooms, and, like, just go on the ride.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- B-B-Real
Um, after a while, I couldn't do it anymore. I couldn't, like, be on stage and, and be totally in the melt, we call it-
- JRJoe Rogan
Hmm.
- B-B-Real
... where it's, like, where it's above micro, it's above moderate, like-
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- B-B-Real
... you're full melt, right?
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- B-B-Real
As they say. And, and it was harder for me to be in front of people doing that because I had, like, these, these issues deeply rooted that I was angry about and every time I got to that place, that's what I'd focus on, and I didn't wanna feel that ugliness.
- JRJoe Rogan
Hmm.
- B-B-Real
So I waited till I got over whatever that, that issue was and then I started, you know, slowly doing mushrooms again, f- microdosing first and then moderate and I started feeling good about it again and I realized how much, you know, it actually helped me push away from whatever that issue was when I did it the first time.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, just something you were focusing on, right?
- B-B-Real
Yeah, I was just-
- JRJoe Rogan
You just needed to work out.
- B-B-Real
Yeah, I often say, if you're, if you're gonna try mushrooms beyond micro-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- B-B-Real
... right, like, try to deal with whatever issues you got before you go in and have a friend there to help you-
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- B-B-Real
... like, to be in the world there with you, you know?
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, that's what everybody used to use, a sitter. That was the-
- B-B-Real
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
... always the big thing. If you, if you did mushrooms, you should have a sitter. You know, and, and, uh, in the best case scenario, you would have qualified professionals that would assist in psychedelic...... therapy, which-
- B-B-Real
Right.
- JRJoe Rogan
... which is what happens for a lot of people. You know, I know people that have done that in other states where it's legal or illegal. And where it's legal, I mean, it's amazing. You can go to a place and someone who understands the experience and knows what to do-
- B-B-Real
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
... can help you through it. And I know people that have made some big breakthroughs in their life, and just really just sort of reassessed how they interface with the world because of that.
- B-B-Real
Yeah, man. I mean, (sighs) if you could find something that would help you get past whatever is, is, um, you know, holding you back or troubling you, weighing you down, man, I mean-
- JRJoe Rogan
(smacks lips)
- B-B-Real
... uh, better than ta- uh, taking any of these over-the-counter drugs for that, that might suppress those feelings or thoughts, then have you deal with them and get past them.
- 12:51 – 15:32
Pharma incentives, opiate history, and fentanyl’s deadly reality
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. Well, that kind of thinking is why it's gonna stay illegal. (laughs)
- B-B-Real
Yeah. Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Because there's a lot of money to be lost with marijuana-
- B-B-Real
With-
- JRJoe Rogan
... and psilocybin and all these things becoming legal. There's a lot of shit that people are taking that might not be necessary and might have some (coughs) unintended side effects and consequences that you don't get with natural remedies.
- B-B-Real
Right. It's like they say, there's no money in the cure.
- JRJoe Rogan
(smacks lips) Yeah.
- B-B-Real
Right?
- JRJoe Rogan
There should be.
- B-B-Real
There should be.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- B-B-Real
But for them, there isn't. Like if-
- JRJoe Rogan
It's such a problem when people can make a lot of money off of something.
- B-B-Real
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
As soon as, as soon as they find a thing they can sell you that they can make a lot of money off, they wanna keep selling it to you-
- B-B-Real
Yeah. And-
- JRJoe Rogan
... no matter what.
- B-B-Real
And then you have other companies that do the knockoff versions of-
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm-hmm.
- B-B-Real
... what they do to sell-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- B-B-Real
... more of it to you.
- JRJoe Rogan
It's just, you know, um, I've been paying a lot of attention over the years, the, about the opiate crisis and the, the pill problem. And that's something we talked about with Marianna Venzant too 'cause when I first met her, uh, I had her on because she did this thing called the OxyContin Express-
- B-B-Real
Right.
- JRJoe Rogan
... where she explained the pill mills in Florida and how people would buy the oxys and bring them up the highway to Kentucky and all these places, and people with horrible addictions and horrible overdose stories, and it was all coming from Florida.
- B-B-Real
Christ.
- JRJoe Rogan
And there was, there was no database. So you could have a back... "Ah, my back hurts." You go to this place. They go, "Oh, you need OxyContin."
- B-B-Real
Mm-hmm.
- JRJoe Rogan
And literally go right next door to the same building, and that's where they give you the oxy, and that's all they prescribe. And they don't have a database, so then you go down the street to another doctor 'cause these pain management clinics-
- B-B-Real
Huh.
- 15:32 – 25:58
PCP, ‘chemical demons,’ and wild stories of altered strength and numbness
- JRJoe Rogan
I think that hard drug addiction is a different thing.
- B-B-Real
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
I really think it's a different thing. I haven't experienced it, but I have friends that have, and they get scared like they got captured by a demon. And when they get clean, they don't wanna fuck around with nothing.
- B-B-Real
Yeah, yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
They're like, "Dude, you don't understand. I got captured by a demon." And it's kind of a, a ... You wonder, like, when, when people talk about, like, demonic possession. Like, that was always a thing back in the day.
- B-B-Real
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Before, you know, people really had an understanding of human psychology and all, all, all ... myths and lores and what people were terrified of, like demonic possession was a real thing. But if you think about what happens to someone when they get really hooked on meth, I mean how-
- B-B-Real
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
... much different is that-
- B-B-Real
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
... than being captured by a demon? You're captured by a chemical demon that's ruining-
- B-B-Real
That's a chemical demon.
- JRJoe Rogan
... your life-
- B-B-Real
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
... wants you to get in a fistfight with cops, wants you to drive with no fucking tires.
- B-B-Real
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
Wild shit.
- B-B-Real
Yeah. It's, it's, it's-
- JRJoe Rogan
It's a chemical demon.
- B-B-Real
It does possess you. I mean, like, look-
- JRJoe Rogan
Oof.
- B-B-Real
... when people were doing the PCP thing back in the day, right?
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm-hmm.
- B-B-Real
You know, back in, in South Gate when Sed and I were like, you know, younger before we were, um, you know ... well, while we were in demo stages, right, doing our demos and stuff like that, we'd, you know, trek around the city. You know, like, go to parties and stuff like that, house parties if you will. And every now and then, you know, 'cause we were broke-ass bastards, we didn't always have cars. We'd be walking to the parties and stuff like that from where we ... you know, Cypress or whatever. And every now and then, you would come across a couple of, you know, gangsters that were PCPed out. And these dudes, I mean, like if you got into some shit with them, you were dealing with someone who didn't know their strength and their abilities at that point.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, they would break handcuffs.
- B-B-Real
They ... Yeah, they would break handcuffs. We seen, like, so-
- JRJoe Rogan
Is that real? Did people really break handcuffs on PCP or is that one of those myths?
- B-B-Real
Well, they-
- JRJoe Rogan
'Cause I had always heard that people did that.
- B-B-Real
They could definitely, definitely break windows like nothing.
- 25:58 – 32:31
From street fights to brother battles: backyard MMA and toughness culture
- B-B-Real
So l- i- so when, when, uh, we were spending a lot of time in South Gate before, like, you know, we eventually start touring and, and moving around and, and being a part of the industry more than being in the streets, right? Just before that, you know, we used to, we used to hang out at this spot in South Gate, at this Jack in the Box. Like, that (laughs) , for some reason, everybody went there and it was on Firestone in California. And City Hall is just down the street and South Gate Police Department is just right there and we just happened to be there on this day where they were trying to take down this, like, dude that was, like, probably, like, 6'2", 6'3" Kenny Loggins-looking motherfucker, you know?
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- B-B-Real
Scraggly beard and he's got his shirt off, no shoes.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, no.
- B-B-Real
He's just in his jeans and-
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, no.
- B-B-Real
... there's, like, 10, uh, South Gate police officers trying to subdue this guy and, like-
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, no.
- B-B-Real
... they could just not. They had to call, like, five or six more and they put him in the back of the, of the, the police car and with his bare feet, he kicks out the window and they're like-
- JRJoe Rogan
Jesus.
- B-B-Real
... they are really dealing with this guy. This dude was huge.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh my god.
- B-B-Real
Um, yeah, he, he had to have been on something because, like, he wasn't very big big. He was tall but he was kind of lanky but, like, man he was tossing those dudes around like nothing.
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, there's some dudes that are just genetically freak strong.
- B-B-Real
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
You know? Like our buddy Jeff out there. Jeff doesn't even work out and there's this grip thing that you grab and he beats all of us.
- B-B-Real
Hmm.
- JRJoe Rogan
Everybody works out every day, he grabs this thing and is like ash ash ash.
- B-B-Real
Got that inner strength.
- JRJoe Rogan
Just got natural strength.
- B-B-Real
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Some people just have better genes than us.
- B-B-Real
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- B-B-Real
And imagine, imagine that guy on PCP. (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh my goodness. You're not gonna hold him down. He's barefoot and he looks like Kenny Loggins. (laughs)
- B-B-Real
Yeah. (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
And he's got some country strength.
- B-B-Real
I got country strength.
- JRJoe Rogan
He's got country strength, bro, for real. Bro, those guys that work on farms, that is 100% legit.
- 32:31 – 58:58
Drugs, freedom, and practical harm reduction: mixing risks and legalization logic
- JRJoe Rogan
Also, you need guidance because there's probably a bunch of medications that people take that you wouldn't ever wanna take with mushrooms.
- B-B-Real
Oh, hell no.
- JRJoe Rogan
Like you would wanna talk to a doctor. Like I don't... There's gotta be, right?
- B-B-Real
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Like, what medications are dangerous when mixed with psilocybin? Google that, 'cause there's gotta be some stuff, like MAO inhibitors and stuff that would make you lose your fucking marbles.
- B-B-Real
Oh, yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Like McKenna told some story about once, about he, he took some sort of an MAO inhibitor and mushrooms at the same time, and he almost lost his mind. I believe that was the combination he was talking about.
- B-B-Real
That's crazy.
- JRJoe Rogan
But it was just, just way too much. And it took him a while before he could sort of... The way he was describing it was much more eloquent, but he was like talking about how he was trying to reformulate reality-
- B-B-Real
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
... essentially.
- B-B-Real
(laughs) That wasn't... Went deep.
- JRJoe Rogan
So, yeah, he was like gone. Like, "Oh my God, I'm never coming back on."
- B-B-Real
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
You know?
- B-B-Real
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
And then it just took a while, and then eventually he... There's stories of him and his brother. They took mushrooms in the Amazon, and they found these fresh mushrooms.
- B-B-Real
Wow.
- JRJoe Rogan
And my brother went way, way, way too hard. He went way too hard.
- B-B-Real
In the Amazon, he took mushrooms?
- JRJoe Rogan
His brother, Dennis, yeah.
- B-B-Real
That's crazy.
- JRJoe Rogan
And he was gone for weeks-
- B-B-Real
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
... for gone... He was gone-
- B-B-Real
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
... for weeks, for weeks.
- B-B-Real
Yeah, some folks don't come back from that-
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- B-B-Real
... as, as, as quickly as others, and some people stay.
- 58:58 – 1:15:56
Information overload, immigration history detour, and modern platforms (plus trolls)
- JRJoe Rogan
Do you think that this country could, uh, survive legalization of hard drugs like cocaine? Like, what, uh, what do you think... uh, you, you envision that that would... like, we all want cannabis, and it seems like cannabis is gonna happen. It seems like it's on, on the way to happening.
- B-B-Real
I think you have to educate people more and be open to educate them properly instead of propaganda education, where it's you're just telling them half truths to let them know what you want them to know. Like, in Europe, they're, they're a little bit more with the shits in terms of, you know, how they deal with, with alcohol, how they deal with drugs, how they deal with nudity on TV, just-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- B-B-Real
... little things like that. We are so uptight over here that it, you know, we're, we're afraid to teach people about these things because, uh, we f- you know, maybe that education will lead them there.
- JRJoe Rogan
Hmm.
- B-B-Real
As opposed to, like, say, being upfront with them, like, "Look, this is what it is. This is what happens..." and all the other shit instead of, "Hey, this over here? Don't do it," and that's it.
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, the problem is everybody's finding out from everybody else.
- B-B-Real
Right. Uh, uh, you, uh, that's what I'm saying.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- B-B-Real
You have to educate them properly.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, they're not... uh, you're, you're not getting good information from your friends about how much molly you should take.
- B-B-Real
Right. You can't let someone-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- B-B-Real
... else educate them. You ha-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- B-B-Real
You have to be the one to do it in- instead of the sheltering that we've gotten through, through most of our lives here. You know, us growing up-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- B-B-Real
... our generation, our parents didn't wanna tell us shit, just-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- B-B-Real
... "Don't do that."
- JRJoe Rogan
"Don't do that."
- B-B-Real
And sometimes they didn't know how to explain why.
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- B-B-Real
But we are in a different place and different time where energy, I mean, um, information is vast.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- B-B-Real
And you can get it at, at the click of a finger, you know, click f- a- a- at a key on your computer, you know what I mean? So...
- JRJoe Rogan
W- you just gotta also take into account that, like, people that live like us today, humans listening to this in 2023, this is a new type of person. This is a new type of informed person. People are so much more informed, even misinformed than they've ever been before. You're dealing with an information overload-
- B-B-Real
Oh, yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
... that's never, never existed before. And, you know, if you just go back a couple generations, like, my, my grandparents came from Italy, so...... we're talking about, you know, they, they came over here during the Depression. They, they lived on a farm. Like, it was, uh, like, horrible, brutal shit-
- B-B-Real
Yeah.
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