Joe Rogan Experience #1948 - Tony Hinchcliffe & Brian Redban

1. 0:00 – 1:02

   Caffeine chaos, health talk, and Redban’s gum/dentist saga

   1. THTony Hinchcliffe0:00

      (drum roll) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out.

   2. BRBrian Redban0:04

      The Joe Rogan Experience. (drum roll)

   3. JRJoe Rogan0:06

      Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. (rock music) Brian, you got every kind of caffeinated beverage known to man in front of you. What do you got? I got a smoothie and Black Rifle. Two Black Rifles, and then you got a cooler. Oh, this is Liquid IV. Oh, look at you. (laughs) Trying to stay hydrated. I got all... I got Factor, I got Liquid I... I got all the sponsors. You've remained remarkably healthy. (laughs) Out of all the people I was worried about during COVID, it was you. I was worried about you and Tim Dillon. You were my number one and number two, but you fucking coasted through it like it was nothing. (laughs) Yeah. It's weird. (laughs) I, I... My doctor said I have this thing where my, my meta- my, my metabolism is too strong, uh, and it's, like, fucking my gums up right now. Like- Your metabolism is fucking your gums up? Yeah. What kind of doctor you going to? A chiropractor?

   4. THTony Hinchcliffe0:51

      (laughs)

   5. You going to a witch doctor?

   6. JRJoe Rogan0:53

      No. I, I, I've actually been to, like, all the... Two dent- dentists now, because I'm dealing with it right now. My met- uh, it's fucking... My gums are, like gum disease type shit. Receding gums?

   7. THTony Hinchcliffe1:01

      Yeah.

2. 1:02 – 3:47

   Nitrous, whip-its, and why some drugs are “not worth it”

   1. JRJoe Rogan1:02

      Yeah. And so I have to get a deep clean, but, um, they're... They let me use nitrous for the first time at a doctor.

   2. THTony Hinchcliffe1:07

      Ooh.

   3. JRJoe Rogan1:07

      I've never done that. Have you done nitrous at a doctor?

   4. THTony Hinchcliffe1:09

      It's fun.

   5. JRJoe Rogan1:09

      Really?

   6. THTony Hinchcliffe1:10

      Yeah.

   7. JRJoe Rogan1:10

      How silly did you get? You haven't done it yet? I haven't done it yet. (laughs)

   8. THTony Hinchcliffe1:12

      Yeah.

   9. JRJoe Rogan1:13

      Have you done it?

   10. THTony Hinchcliffe1:13

       Yeah, and I ended up, like, being mean to the dentist.

   11. JRJoe Rogan1:16

       No.

   12. THTony Hinchcliffe1:16

       Like, I was, like, making jokes that weren't funny. Like, nobody was laughing.

   13. JRJoe Rogan1:20

       Oh, no.

   14. THTony Hinchcliffe1:21

       Yeah.

   15. JRJoe Rogan1:21

       That's what I'm scared of, 'cause, you know, in college, you do it, and you fall out a window, you start, like- (laughs) ... fishing around and shit. How are you gonna do that at a dentist's when they're trying to be precise with your teeth? That's a good point, right? Like, you gotta take a wild chance that the person isn't out of their fucking mind if you're gonna dose them up with nitrous. I don't know what it feels like. Is that the same thing with whip-its? Oh, we can find out real quick. It is. It's medical grade. We have them here.

   16. THTony Hinchcliffe1:44

       (laughs)

   17. JRJoe Rogan1:45

       Yeah, Ari did whip-its on the show. We were like, "What are you doing?" I was like, "Is this even legal?" No.

   18. THTony Hinchcliffe1:51

       (laughs)

   19. JRJoe Rogan1:51

       He has... He bought them somewhere. Like, you can buy whip-its? You could buy it for, for the, those machines for the whipped cream.

   20. THTony Hinchcliffe1:57

       Whip-its for whipped cream.

   21. JRJoe Rogan1:57

       Yeah.

   22. THTony Hinchcliffe1:58

       Yeah, it's just whipped cream.

   23. JRJoe Rogan1:58

       That's what they call it? Yeah.

   24. THTony Hinchcliffe1:59

       That's why it's called a whip-it.

   25. JRJoe Rogan1:59

       They call them whip-its? Yeah. But I thought for whipped cream, you get, like, a large one. Well, that was just when I worked in a restaurant. Well, the container's large, but then you unscrew the top, and it's just a little- Right. ... nitrous, uh, thing. Dude, I worked at a Newport Creamery in Massachusetts, and everybody did whip-its. I'm pretty sure I did it once. I must've done it once. I was, like, 15. 15, 16, I think I worked there. And people would just go back there and get blasted off of whip-its. Damn. How- Yeah, the dishwasher too.

   26. THTony Hinchcliffe2:23

       How did Ari react to it?

   27. JRJoe Rogan2:24

       He just started laughing. Like, couldn't stop laughing and threw his head back, and he's like, "Whoa, whoa, whoa." That's what he said it was like. He's like, "Whoa, whoa, whoa." Norman hated it. Norman did it, he's like, "Fuck this. This is terrible. I feel awful. I feel like I died. I don't like it at all."

   28. THTony Hinchcliffe2:40

       Right.

   29. JRJoe Rogan2:41

       He was (laughs) ... He was not into... Seeing, seeing Norman, I was like, "I'm not doing it." If he, he's, he's reacting like that.

   30. THTony Hinchcliffe2:46

       Not my thing.
3. 3:47 – 5:46

   Stimulants, childhood meds, and how substances shape developing minds

   1. JRJoe Rogan3:47

      Like, people who do speed, they wind up fucking organizing the garage and putting, putting shelves up and stuff, cleaning everything. I need that. Yeah, that's an Adderall thing apparently. People do Adderall, and they start cleaning shit and organizing.

   2. THTony Hinchcliffe4:01

      Not my thing.

   3. JRJoe Rogan4:02

      Yeah. Have you fucked with Adderall? Adderall at all?

   4. THTony Hinchcliffe4:04

      A couple times.

   5. JRJoe Rogan4:05

      What about you?

   6. THTony Hinchcliffe4:06

      No. They had me on Ritalin when I, when I was a kid.

   7. JRJoe Rogan4:08

      Oh, that's... That figures everything out and solves-

   8. THTony Hinchcliffe4:10

      All the time.

   9. JRJoe Rogan4:11

      That's it?

   10. THTony Hinchcliffe4:12

       Every day.

   11. JRJoe Rogan4:13

       Ritalin's a upper, right? Or down, I mean.

   12. THTony Hinchcliffe4:15

       I think it's an upper.

   13. JRJoe Rogan4:15

       Well, it's an upper, but supposedly, back then, they said that if you had ADD, it brings you down. Like, it's supposed to mellow you out, but I hated it. You know who talked about that is Henry Rollins talked about it when he was a kid. They, they put him on that. He was, like, five years old, they had him on it. He was just all the time, like, "Fucking yeah." Yeah. And the way he describes it is like, "Oh, when you see Henry, like, he's so intense. Like, everything about him is intense, his... Even the things he enjoys, like when he talks about, like, listening to records, he's so intense." It's like they just cranked his fucking brain up to ten, like, "Bah," when he was a little kid, which is wild, 'cause you can kind of... (sighs) I mean, it's not a thing to do. I'm not saying you should do it. But, um, what I'm saying is, you can manipulate a child's mind with those things in a way. Like, you're... You have to be... You're changing their reality, right? You're changing the way they experience things. That's gotta change their view of life overall in general. Like, if your view of life over, like... You know how stoners are. Some stoners, they're... It's abusive. They're abusive. They're so s- high all the time that they're just, like, not making sense. They, like, never make any sense. Like, if you're doing that all the time when you're, like, 14, 15, 16, which, which some kids do, that shit's terrible for you. It doesn't prepare you for life at all. Like, du- being a fucking full-timer when you're, like, 14, like, whoa. Like, dude, regular reality is hard enough. You're trying to figure out what the

4. 5:46 – 7:41

   Fear of adulthood, chaotic childhoods, and finding stand-up as an escape hatch

   1. JRJoe Rogan5:46

      fuck is life? What are... What is a grown-up? You know, what is a job? Like, when does this start? When does this "I need to get a job" thing start? Do you remember that feeling? Like, the high school feeling? Like, when do I need to be able to take care of myself? Terrifying.

   2. THTony Hinchcliffe5:59

      Mm-hmm.

   3. JRJoe Rogan5:59

      Terrifying feeling, and nobody prepares you for it. Nobody prepares you for this idea that you're gonna have to take care of yourself. You're like, "What? What?"... I have to pay my own bills. I have to get a job. What do I do? I don't know what to do. And everybody's like, "You gotta go to college." Like, "I guess I gotta go to college. I don't wanna be a fucking loser. I gotta go to college." Remember th- those days? Like, I remember days, like, when I would work, like, three different kinda jobs. I'd, like, deliver newspapers, drive limos. And I would do, you know, occasionally I'd do construction if, like, uh, uh, something came up and I could get away with doing it during the day.

   4. THTony Hinchcliffe6:35

      (laughs)

   5. JRJoe Rogan6:35

      But I was always tired. I hated those jobs.

   6. THTony Hinchcliffe6:37

      Mm-hmm.

   7. JRJoe Rogan6:38

      But I was like, "Fuck, what do I do?"

   8. THTony Hinchcliffe6:40

      Yeah.

   9. JRJoe Rogan6:40

      Like, I was trying to figure out what to do. And if stand-up ... If I didn't find stand-up, oh my God, I would've so fucked.

   10. THTony Hinchcliffe6:47

       Yeah.

   11. JRJoe Rogan6:47

       I would've been so fucked. (laughs)

   12. THTony Hinchcliffe6:50

       (laughs)

   13. JRJoe Rogan6:50

       I would've been so fucked 'cause my, my brain was not wired for jobs.

   14. THTony Hinchcliffe6:55

       Uh-uh.

   15. JRJoe Rogan6:56

       You know?

   16. THTony Hinchcliffe6:57

       Yeah.

   17. JRJoe Rogan6:57

       Some people can do it. Some people are awesome at it. Some people, they lock into a career and they're very happy, you know? But, uh, whate- for whatever it was, like with my childhood, man, my childhood was just too chaotic. I did not have any desire to be, like, in any sort of order, where I'm, like, locked in. Like, I was a latchkey kid. Like, my parents just kinda let me outta the house, "Go have fun." And y- ... Like, kids like that have zero desire for order. Like, you're out there wildin' with these other fucking (laughs) 10-year-olds out in the street-

   18. THTony Hinchcliffe7:27

       Yeah.

   19. JRJoe Rogan7:27

       ... lighting buildings on fire accidentally and finding fireworks and ... We did wild shit when we were kids.

   20. THTony Hinchcliffe7:32

       Totally.

   21. JRJoe Rogan7:33

       That does not prepare you for an office job. That prepares you for just sitting in class going, "Fuck, I gotta get outta here."

   22. THTony Hinchcliffe7:40

       Mm-hmm.

5. 7:41 – 12:09

   Was school designed to create factory workers? TikTok ‘facts’ vs. reality

   1. JRJoe Rogan7:41

      Dude, my kid told me on TikTok she found this thing that was explaining how our educational system was developed. And I was like, "What?" I go, "You got this on TikTok?" I go, "What, what did you find out?" And she was like, "It was developed to turn people who are, like, these rural people into factory workers." Like, they were, they were literally, like, gearing education, when they started public education, to, like, prepare these, like, wild folk (laughs) and put them in factories. If you think about the, the kind of people that were alive, that were living in, like, rural Columbus, Ohio ... Like, outside of Columbus, in ... Where you guys are from.

   2. THTony Hinchcliffe8:20

      Yeah.

   3. JRJoe Rogan8:20

      In, like, the 1900s.

   4. THTony Hinchcliffe8:23

      Yeah.

   5. JRJoe Rogan8:23

      What were those people like? The farm people, like, the people that were basically just like the pioneers. They just stopped and they developed a small town. And in, like, 1903, if you're in that fucking town (laughs) and they want to take one of those people and, and turn them into an office worker?

   6. THTony Hinchcliffe8:39

      (laughs)

   7. JRJoe Rogan8:39

      Like, good luck.

   8. THTony Hinchcliffe8:41

      The Youngstown was the number one steel producing city in the world through the th- like, 30s-

   9. JRJoe Rogan8:45

      Whew.

   10. THTony Hinchcliffe8:45

       ... 40s, 50s. And then one Monday, it all closed. So, like, everything that even it was built around was fucked completely. Like-

   11. JRJoe Rogan8:56

       Oh my God.

   12. THTony Hinchcliffe8:56

       ... everything that ... Their work ethic, everything was just always go to high school and then you work in the steel mill. Your dad worked in the steel mill, his dad ...

   13. JRJoe Rogan9:04

       How old were you when this was going down?

   14. THTony Hinchcliffe9:05

       It was before I was born.

   15. JRJoe Rogan9:07

       Oh.

   16. THTony Hinchcliffe9:07

       But the dilapidation that it left-

   17. JRJoe Rogan9:09

       Oh.

   18. THTony Hinchcliffe9:10

       ... left this ... Well, y- you can't ... They, there was no, like, "You can go chase your dreams. You can move to LA or New York." Like, that's all stuff you had to, like, find out on your own.

   19. JRJoe Rogan9:20

       (exhales)

   20. THTony Hinchcliffe9:20

       Nobody, no teacher was like, "You could do anything." It was, it was ...

   21. JRJoe Rogan9:24

       Bleak.

   22. THTony Hinchcliffe9:25

       Yeah.

   23. JRJoe Rogan9:26

       Isn't that horrible? It's such a bad vibe. It's such a bad vibe to, for a child to grow up in that kind of a, a shattered dream vibe, like a Detroit, Michigan after the factories got pulled out of there.

   24. THTony Hinchcliffe9:40

       Mm-hmm.

   25. JRJoe Rogan9:40

       Like, that Flint, Michigan documentary that Michael Moore did, Roger & Me, is amazing. It's amazing. That ... It ... To me, that's his best work, because that was a young Roger who was trying to, like, figure out, like, what the fuck was going on to this place where he was from. And so, it was so real. And he was so young in it. It was, it was really ... Like, what year was Roger & Me?

   26. THTony Hinchcliffe10:04

       Tsk. Uh, '89? '92? '93.

   27. JRJoe Rogan10:09

       Pull it up, Jamie.

   28. BRBrian Redban10:10

       '89.

   29. JRJoe Rogan10:11

       It's '89.

   30. THTony Hinchcliffe10:12

       Oh.
6. 12:09 – 14:06

   TikTok manhunts, road-rage ‘Tesla terrorist,’ and internet vigilantism

   1. THTony Hinchcliffe12:09

      TikTok's fun but, man, half the shit... You ever watch that guy where it's this guy with a beard and he's a little bit bigger and he goes, "This guy. Check this video out. We need to find this person." Y- like, he's pretty famous.

   2. JRJoe Rogan12:19

      No, I haven't seen him.

   3. THTony Hinchcliffe12:20

      But he, like, shows, like, uh, Karens or racist people, like, a clip.

   4. JRJoe Rogan12:24

      Oh, okay.

   5. THTony Hinchcliffe12:24

      And they hunt them down faster than any police. Like, there was a guy in LA, uh, the Tesla, uh, guy, who was running out, uh, hitting people with ... their cars with baseball bats.

   6. JRJoe Rogan12:34

      Oh, Jesus.

   7. THTony Hinchcliffe12:35

      And they called him the Tes- uh, Tesla terrorist. And they captured that guy faster than the police, just from TikTok.

   8. JRJoe Rogan12:40

      That's amazing.

   9. THTony Hinchcliffe12:41

      (laughs)

   10. JRJoe Rogan12:42

       What, what was this guy's motivation for attacking people with Teslas?

   11. THTony Hinchcliffe12:45

       He's, he's attacked, like, I think it was, like, 10 people over the last three years. It ... Like, women, everyone, any. There's videos of him running out of the Tesla going, "Ah!" Like, out of control.

   12. JRJoe Rogan12:53

       So, he's in a Tesla?

   13. THTony Hinchcliffe12:54

       Yeah, he-

   14. JRJoe Rogan12:55

       Oh.

   15. THTony Hinchcliffe12:55

       And-

   16. JRJoe Rogan12:55

       So, he's in a Tesla and then he's attacking people?

   17. THTony Hinchcliffe12:57

       Yes. Uh-

   18. JRJoe Rogan12:58

       It's not like he's attacking people only in Teslas? I got it screwed up.

   19. THTony Hinchcliffe13:00

       No, no, no, no. He was in a Te-

   20. JRJoe Rogan13:01

       He's in a-

   21. THTony Hinchcliffe13:01

       Yeah, he's in a Te-... They call him the Tesla terrorist.

   22. JRJoe Rogan13:03

       So, he just pulls over and starts beating up people?

   23. THTony Hinchcliffe13:04

       Beating on people.

   24. JRJoe Rogan13:05

       Random people?

   25. THTony Hinchcliffe13:05

       Random people. He's all amped up.

   26. JRJoe Rogan13:07

       Oh, Jesus Christ.

   27. THTony Hinchcliffe13:07

       He's ... Like, you can tell the guy's just juiced.

   28. JRJoe Rogan13:10

       He's on Adderall, bro.

   29. BRBrian Redban13:12

       Well, it said ... He was still on ... The article said he was selling steroids.

   30. JRJoe Rogan13:14

       No, he's still on steroids.
7. 14:06 – 16:24

   Cart Narcs, Windy City Heat, and why that style of comedy can’t exist today

   1. THTony Hinchcliffe14:06

      You ever see cart narcs?

   2. JRJoe Rogan14:08

      What's that?

   3. BRBrian Redban14:08

      (laughs)

   4. THTony Hinchcliffe14:08

      Where the people don't put their cart back at the grocery store?

   5. JRJoe Rogan14:11

      Oh, that's hilarious. That's hilarious.

   6. THTony Hinchcliffe14:12

      I, I found one the other day that they literally did it to Perry from Windy City Heat.

   7. JRJoe Rogan14:17

      Let's get Perry again. Oh, that's hilarious.

   8. THTony Hinchcliffe14:17

      Have you ever seen that?

   9. JRJoe Rogan14:18

      No, but it's ... Makes sense.

   10. THTony Hinchcliffe14:20

       It's unbelievable-

   11. JRJoe Rogan14:22

       That makes sense.

   12. THTony Hinchcliffe14:22

       ... that Perry literally didn't put his cart away.

   13. JRJoe Rogan14:25

       And that he's driving with a mask on, too.

   14. THTony Hinchcliffe14:26

       And he gets so mad. So, it literally brings Perry and the guy doesn't even know it's Perry. So, Perry's being Perry, "What are you doing?" Like, it's (laughs) ...

   15. BRBrian Redban14:36

       Would you like a magnet instead?

   16. THTony Hinchcliffe14:38

       (laughs)

   17. BRBrian Redban14:39

       Now, sir, take-

   18. Get your fucking shit off my fucking car.

   19. THTony Hinchcliffe14:43

       (laughs)

   20. BRBrian Redban14:43

       (laughs)

   21. JRJoe Rogan14:43

       Oh, my God.

   22. BRBrian Redban14:43

       He goes on and on like this for a long time. It's so funny.

   23. THTony Hinchcliffe14:46

       Oh, my God.

   24. JRJoe Rogan14:47

       Oh, my God.

   25. THTony Hinchcliffe14:47

       He's wearing a Perry Caravello live shirt.

   26. JRJoe Rogan14:51

       But very few people know what that is.

   27. BRBrian Redban14:52

       Who's Perry Caravello alive?

   28. THTony Hinchcliffe14:53

       Right.

   29. BRBrian Redban14:54

       Look, sir.

   30. Shut up.
8. 16:24 – 24:02

   Seinfeld at The Comedy Store, Mitzi Shore’s harsh gatekeeping, and open-mic education

   1. THTony Hinchcliffe16:24

      I had to follow Seinfeld at The Comedy Store. Toughest follow I ever had in my entire life.

   2. JRJoe Rogan16:28

      Oh, I'm sure, dude.

   3. THTony Hinchcliffe16:29

      'Cause all he did was talk about how Mitzi, the owner-

   4. JRJoe Rogan16:32

      Oh, that's right.

   5. THTony Hinchcliffe16:34

      ... told him he wasn't funny the last time he was there and he's just-

   6. JRJoe Rogan16:37

      That's right. You were there for that set.

   7. THTony Hinchcliffe16:39

      Crushing. He buried me with a shovel. Nothing like it ever.

   8. JRJoe Rogan16:43

      (laughs)

   9. THTony Hinchcliffe16:43

      'Cause he's telling them the whole story. So, even if the people didn't know how big of a deal it was that Seinfeld was in the OR of The Comedy Store, he told them. "This lady told me I wasn't funny. Wonder how she's doing now?" All this stuff. Like, and she's like, everyone knows she's sick and old and ... I bought a house above her house so that I ... she could see me driving a different car all the time. I'd beep as I went by.

   10. JRJoe Rogan17:06

       (laughs)

   11. THTony Hinchcliffe17:06

       Still not funny. I mean, he's destroying, destroying. It was like, evil, cool, fucking Seinfeld.

   12. JRJoe Rogan17:12

       Oh, that's hilarious. Evil, cool Seinfeld.

   13. THTony Hinchcliffe17:15

       I was buried with a shovel and everybody ... 70% of the people left the room. The other 30% were literally texting their family, "I just saw Seinfeld make his return to The Comedy Store that he hasn't been here in 35 years. He just told the whole story. I'm performing." I remember a fruit fly ... The only laugh I got that set was from a door guy or whatever because a fruit fly went in front of me real slow in the lights-

   14. JRJoe Rogan17:39

       (laughs)

   15. THTony Hinchcliffe17:39

       ... and it was all lit up. I go, "Even the fruit fly is getting outta here."

   16. JRJoe Rogan17:42

       Bro, that is the craziness of Mitzi Shore.

   17. THTony Hinchcliffe17:44

       Yeah.

   18. JRJoe Rogan17:45

       How could she s- say no to Jerry Seinfeld? Like, uh, uh, eh, uh, even when he went there, he was already like a-

   19. THTony Hinchcliffe17:51

       Yep.

   20. JRJoe Rogan17:51

       ... solid comic.

   21. THTony Hinchcliffe17:53

       Yep, and that's the thing that they say, is that when you used to tell Mitzi like, "Oh, this guy's a big deal from New York," that she-

   22. JRJoe Rogan17:59

       Yeah.

   23. THTony Hinchcliffe17:59

       ... that she'd be like, "Well, I'll see for myself."

   24. JRJoe Rogan18:01

       Dude, the guy who used to book the store told me, "It's kinda better if you start off at the store." Like, Mitzi knows you're already a headliner, so she's gonna make you a paid, uh, non-paid regular. So, I became a non-paid regular. I couldn't just become a paid regular. I had to do time as a non-paid, which you go on, like, super late at night. She didn't give a fuck about your credits.... your credits almost hurt you.

   25. THTony Hinchcliffe18:21

       Right.

   26. JRJoe Rogan18:21

       Like, if you came with, with credits, they're like, "Oh, he already thinks he knows everything." (laughs)

   27. THTony Hinchcliffe18:25

       Right. And that's the vibe. And it makes you wonder, like, is part of her brilliant, was part of her brilliant madness knowing that the way to bring out the most in Seinfeld was to do that perhaps?

   28. JRJoe Rogan18:35

       No. (laughs)

   29. THTony Hinchcliffe18:36

       Just to tell him he wasn't funny. (laughs)

   30. JRJoe Rogan18:37

       No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
9. 24:02 – 27:04

   Ari’s special, ‘full-blown AIDS’ riffing, and miracle-era HIV science

   1. JRJoe Rogan24:02

      Well, think about the show we did at The Vulcan. Think about the show. We got Hans Kim, and then you got David Lucas, and then you got Mark Normand, and then you got Ari Shaffir, then you got Shane Gillis, then you got you, then you got me.

   2. THTony Hinchcliffe24:15

      Mm-hmm.

   3. JRJoe Rogan24:15

      These are, these are crazy shows, man. Crazy shows. They were so fucking fun.

   4. THTony Hinchcliffe24:22

      It's been ridiculous.

   5. JRJoe Rogan24:23

      Goddamn it, it's a murder fest too. From, from start to go. And you know what makes me the happiest is watching the big pop that Ari gets.

   6. THTony Hinchcliffe24:31

      Yeah.

   7. JRJoe Rogan24:32

      ... when Ari goes on stage, he gets a giant pop. People go nuts. That special fucking pulled him out of the fire.

   8. THTony Hinchcliffe24:39

      It was a beautiful special, man.

   9. JRJoe Rogan24:40

      It's a perfect special.

   10. THTony Hinchcliffe24:42

       Just how it's filmed, it's perfect.

   11. JRJoe Rogan24:42

       It's perfect. The fact that he did it in front of candles and shit-

   12. THTony Hinchcliffe24:45

       Mm-hmm.

   13. JRJoe Rogan24:45

       ... and he had to relight all the candles.

   14. BRBrian Redban24:47

       And for him to do that with full-blown AIDS is just incredible.

   15. THTony Hinchcliffe24:49

       Ah.

   16. BRBrian Redban24:49

       Yeah. It's unbelievable.

   17. JRJoe Rogan24:51

       Full-blown. Imagine if that was, like, a real diagnosis. (laughs)

   18. THTony Hinchcliffe24:54

       (laughs)

   19. BRBrian Redban24:55

       (laughs)

   20. JRJoe Rogan24:56

       You know, like full-blown is such a street term-

   21. BRBrian Redban24:58

       Yeah.

   22. JRJoe Rogan24:58

       ... for someone really being fucked up by AIDS. But if, like, uh, "Well, Tony, you've got full-blown AIDS." (laughs)

   23. THTony Hinchcliffe25:04

       Damn.

   24. JRJoe Rogan25:04

       Like, if your doctor said that to you, like, what a disrespectful doctor-

   25. THTony Hinchcliffe25:08

       Yeah.

   26. JRJoe Rogan25:08

       ... to use the term full-blown AIDS. "Bro, you got full-blown AIDS."

   27. BRBrian Redban25:12

       (laughs)

   28. JRJoe Rogan25:12

       That's... I'd be like, "What the kind of doctor did I get?"

   29. BRBrian Redban25:15

       If he threw a bro at the front like that, that's even worse.

   30. JRJoe Rogan25:17

       Yeah. (laughs)
10. 27:04 – 29:45

    Gas-station ‘Rhino’ boner pills: mystery ingredients, roid rage, and Jon Jones rumors

    1. JRJoe Rogan27:04

       Boner pills. There's a lot of different things came out. Re- remember the fucking gas station pills, Fred Bear?

    2. THTony Hinchcliffe27:10

       I was buor-

    3. BRBrian Redban27:10

       (laughs)

    4. THTony Hinchcliffe27:10

       I got burnout. I think it did damage.

    5. JRJoe Rogan27:12

       Fred Bear (laughs) -

    6. THTony Hinchcliffe27:14

       (laughs)

    7. BRBrian Redban27:14

       (laughs)

    8. JRJoe Rogan27:14

       Fred Bear was taking these fucking w- who knows what bathtub they were mixed up in.

    9. THTony Hinchcliffe27:20

       Yeah.

    10. JRJoe Rogan27:20

        He would take these boner pills that he would buy at the gas station, and apparently they're insane. And I think they had steroids in them because, like, at one p- one time you got a little bit of road rage.

    11. THTony Hinchcliffe27:31

        Yeah.

    12. JRJoe Rogan27:31

        Or roid rage (laughs) .

    13. THTony Hinchcliffe27:32

        And, and, and sometimes, uh, like, I felt like I was, like, about to pass out, like, I was tripping, like, seeing-

    14. JRJoe Rogan27:36

        (laughs)

    15. THTony Hinchcliffe27:36

        ... trails and stuff. Like, what's that? I think it was, like-

    16. JRJoe Rogan27:38

        Fentanyl.

    17. THTony Hinchcliffe27:39

        ... blood pressure problem.

    18. JRJoe Rogan27:40

        Bro, it could be everything.

    19. BRBrian Redban27:41

        (laughs)

    20. JRJoe Rogan27:41

        Everything and anything. They just mixed them up and called it Rhino.

    21. THTony Hinchcliffe27:45

        Right.

    22. JRJoe Rogan27:45

        Right?

    23. THTony Hinchcliffe27:46

        Yeah.

    24. JRJoe Rogan27:46

        Remember the names?

    25. THTony Hinchcliffe27:47

        Yep, yep.

    26. BRBrian Redban27:47

        Black Rhino.

    27. THTony Hinchcliffe27:48

        It had a hologram of a rhinoceros.

    28. JRJoe Rogan27:50

        Yes.

    29. THTony Hinchcliffe27:50

        And I had... Like, I collected the containers that that came in-

    30. BRBrian Redban27:53

        Oh.
11. 29:45 – 48:52

    White House luggage thief story and Rogan’s rant on identity politics vs competence

    1. JRJoe Rogan29:45

       I need some boner pills. I need to get going. Have you guys... Have you guys seen the story of this person who worked for the White House? They were in charge of, like, some- something in the nuclear program. It's, uh, a trans woman who's bald.

    2. BRBrian Redban30:01

       Oh, yeah.

    3. JRJoe Rogan30:01

       Has a beard and a mustache.

    4. BRBrian Redban30:02

       Yeah.

    5. JRJoe Rogan30:03

       And is apparently a kleptomaniac.

    6. BRBrian Redban30:04

       Yep.

    7. JRJoe Rogan30:05

       It is the wildest story.

    8. BRBrian Redban30:07

       Yeah.

    9. JRJoe Rogan30:08

       They caught her stealing a bag. I should say... Is it he? Like, he has a mustache. Um, stealing a... Isn't his name Sam?

    10. BRBrian Redban30:18

        I think it's-

    11. JRJoe Rogan30:18

        I don't wanna misgender. I'm not sure if it's, like, non-binary. Whatever. It's-

    12. BRBrian Redban30:22

        But whatever it is, it's a thief.

    13. JRJoe Rogan30:23

        Try to be nice. It's a fucking thief (laughs) . It's a fucking terrible thief. And then there was a woman who, uh, recently, uh, f- saw photos of this Sam person. And, uh, she is, like... I think she's a designer, and she had very specific, one-of-a-kind clothing-... that had gotten stolen.

    14. THTony Hinchcliffe30:44

        Oh, shit.

    15. BRBrian Redban30:45

        Jesus. What the hell?

    16. JRJoe Rogan30:46

        Yeah, it's w- it's playing with rules.

    17. THTony Hinchcliffe30:48

        There's not enough-

    18. JRJoe Rogan30:48

        That's what that person is doing.

    19. THTony Hinchcliffe30:49

        There-

    20. JRJoe Rogan30:49

        That person with the beard and the shaved head, and, uh, g- lipstick, and every- they're, they're playing with the rules.

    21. THTony Hinchcliffe30:54

        I'll tell you, there's not enough boner pills in the world. (laughs)

    22. BRBrian Redban30:59

        (laughs) Oh, man.

    23. JRJoe Rogan31:00

        So this person, Sam, uh, has been stealing women's luggage. Like, not just one, but they've, they've caught multiple times this person, Sam, on video, stealing luggage. And this woman, who said, uh, from 2018... See if you can find that story. The story of this woman who was a designer, from 2018.

    24. THTony Hinchcliffe31:18

        Yeah. There it is.

    25. JRJoe Rogan31:19

        So, she had these very specific pieces that were missing, and then she sees this person wearing her shit. This person who works for the fucking White House.

    26. BRBrian Redban31:30

        What's he do at the White House?

    27. JRJoe Rogan31:30

        And she's like, "No way." Well, she's, he, they are fired.

    28. BRBrian Redban31:35

        Oh.

    29. JRJoe Rogan31:35

        They are fired from the White House.

    30. BRBrian Redban31:37

        What did they do?
12. 48:52 – 1:02:48

    East Palestine derailment fears: toxic air, misinformation cycles, and blame narratives

    1. THTony Hinchcliffe48:52

       Did you see the guy in East Palestine that talks like Mickey Mouse now?

    2. JRJoe Rogan48:56

       Yeah, I did.

    3. THTony Hinchcliffe48:57

       What?

    4. JRJoe Rogan48:57

       I was just swallowing a TruBrain.

    5. THTony Hinchcliffe48:59

       What's that?

    6. JRJoe Rogan49:00

       It's a nootropic. You wanna try it?

    7. THTony Hinchcliffe49:01

       Yeah.

    8. JRJoe Rogan49:03

       Dude was on my podcast once, a doctor, and he came up with this stuff.

    9. BRBrian Redban49:08

       ... is it orange flavored?

    10. JRJoe Rogan49:08

        He was a doctor. Was he a doctor? I don't want to give anybody extra titles.

    11. BRBrian Redban49:14

        (laughs)

    12. JRJoe Rogan49:14

        You wanna try one? Wanna get smarter?

    13. BRBrian Redban49:15

        No.

    14. No, no, no. I don't want to.

    15. JRJoe Rogan49:16

        Stay where you're at?

    16. BRBrian Redban49:17

        Yeah.

    17. JRJoe Rogan49:17

        (laughs) Doesn't make you smarter. Helps your memory a little bit. (clears throat)

    18. BRBrian Redban49:22

        Oh.

    19. JRJoe Rogan49:22

        It's good for verbal memory. Sometimes the Mary Jane fucks with the mind.

    20. BRBrian Redban49:27

        Ooh, that's delicious.

    21. JRJoe Rogan49:28

        It's good, right? It's a nice little liquid, little shot. (smacks lips) I like it.

    22. BRBrian Redban49:33

        It's like a snow cone.

    23. JRJoe Rogan49:34

        (laughs)

    24. BRBrian Redban49:34

        With the voice thing, wouldn't there be multiple videos of mult- multiple people with that?

    25. JRJoe Rogan49:39

        It could be his own reaction to it. He got a very high dose. It could be, uh, there's more people, they're not talking about it.

    26. BRBrian Redban49:44

        S- says there's more people.

    27. JRJoe Rogan49:46

        More people?

    28. BRBrian Redban49:47

        That's, that's what this article says. They're going to go check door-to-door. Hmm.

    29. Ooh, they're sending the CDC in. That sounds good.

    30. JRJoe Rogan49:54

        Bro, this is very scary stuff.
13. 1:02:48 – 1:08:02

    From super gonorrhea to syphilis horror history—and Al Capone’s fate

    1. JRJoe Rogan1:02:48

       Yeah. Back in the day, dude, they used to die from syphilis. Like, people rotted out from syphilis. And they got syphilis from fucking, and everybody knew they got it from fucking. And people still fucked.

    2. BRBrian Redban1:02:59

       Mm-hmm.

    3. JRJoe Rogan1:03:00

       They still fucked.

    4. BRBrian Redban1:03:01

       There's that new gonorrhea, full blown gonorrhea, that's killing people they can't cure.

    5. JRJoe Rogan1:03:05

       What?

    6. BRBrian Redban1:03:06

       Super... Have you heard about super gonorrhea?

    7. JRJoe Rogan1:03:07

       No. What is this-

    8. BRBrian Redban1:03:08

       Super gonorrhea is like a new thing.

    9. JRJoe Rogan1:03:09

       No.

    10. BRBrian Redban1:03:09

        And they c- have no cure for it. You just...

    11. JRJoe Rogan1:03:11

        What?

    12. BRBrian Redban1:03:12

        Yeah.

    13. JRJoe Rogan1:03:12

        Really?

    14. BRBrian Redban1:03:13

        Yeah.

    15. JRJoe Rogan1:03:13

        Have you heard of this?

    16. BRBrian Redban1:03:14

        No.

    17. JRJoe Rogan1:03:15

        Uh, Jamie?

    18. BRBrian Redban1:03:16

        I'm looking.

    19. JRJoe Rogan1:03:17

        Please google super gonorrhea.

    20. BRBrian Redban1:03:19

        Hi, I'm so happy to hear you haven't heard this yet.

    21. JRJoe Rogan1:03:20

        (laughs)

    22. BRBrian Redban1:03:20

        I haven't heard this yet. Yes.

    23. JRJoe Rogan1:03:20

        No, I haven't heard of it.

    24. BRBrian Redban1:03:21

        It's so fucked up, because-

    25. That's scary, dude.

    26. It's mutated gonorrhea.

    27. That's scary.

    28. JRJoe Rogan1:03:25

        Ima- imagine you're just a young person trying to have a good time, have a little intercourse. What is super gonorrhea?

    29. BRBrian Redban1:03:32

        Uh...

    30. JRJoe Rogan1:03:33

        Here, right here. January 2023. "Super gonorrhea has reached the US." Holy shit.
14. 1:08:02 – 1:33:31

    Geraldo, the Zapruder film, JFK skepticism, and MKUltra-era intelligence scandals

    1. THTony Hinchcliffe1:08:02

       (laughs)

    2. JRJoe Rogan1:08:02

       That was purely the roughest. But the greatest moment he ever had was on the Geraldo Rivera Show, whatever the fuck the show was called, when he introduced the world to the Kennedy assassination video.

    3. THTony Hinchcliffe1:08:13

       Mm-hmm.

    4. JRJoe Rogan1:08:13

       Dick Gregory came... Who was a comic. Dick Gregory came onto the Geraldo Rivera Show with the footage that he had obtained of the Kennedy assassination from the Zapruder film. So the Zapruder film was acquired, I believe, by Time-Life. I think they were acquired by Life Magazine. And they didn't do anything with it for a long time, and then he got it, and I f- I want to say they aired it on TV. It was at least 10 years, if not 12 years, after the murder. So it was like '75, I think. And so, on the show, he introduces this. There's Geraldo Rivera looking sexy as fuck.

    5. THTony Hinchcliffe1:08:54

       Whoa.

    6. BRBrian Redban1:08:54

       Hey, hey.

    7. THTony Hinchcliffe1:08:54

       Was it 10 years?

    8. JRJoe Rogan1:08:55

       1975.

    9. BRBrian Redban1:08:56

       Yeah.

    10. JRJoe Rogan1:08:56

        So there it goes. So it's 12 years. That was g- Good Night America, what it, what is was called. That was Geraldo Rivera Show. And so, Geraldo, with his beautiful, uh, mane, is the host. And D- Dick Gregory comes on, and Dick Gregory brings on this other cat. I don't know who the other guy is.

    11. THTony Hinchcliffe1:09:12

        Bad guy from James Bond.

    12. JRJoe Rogan1:09:13

        (laughs)

    13. BRBrian Redban1:09:14

        (laughs)

    14. THTony Hinchcliffe1:09:16

        (laughs)

    15. JRJoe Rogan1:09:16

        That's exactly what he looks like.

    16. THTony Hinchcliffe1:09:18

        Yeah, that's him.

    17. BRBrian Redban1:09:18

        That's the guy with the mouth and the munched mouth.

    18. JRJoe Rogan1:09:19

        That's the guy with the button.

    19. THTony Hinchcliffe1:09:20

        Jaws.

    20. BRBrian Redban1:09:21

        Jaws. Yeah.

    21. JRJoe Rogan1:09:21

        What's his name? Okay. So, um, so when they watch it, you could see Geraldo Rivera react to it. Well, l- let's play it, because the th- this was the thing. The thing was, a lot of people at that time, they're coming off of the Vietnam War. There's, there's a lot of people that have a massive distrust of the government, and there's a lot of people that thought that Kennedy was assassined, uh, assassinated by more than one person. There was all these rumors of people shooting from the grassy knoll, and there was all these conspiracy theories. But until you watched the actual video of the assassination, there was no confirmation that something was amiss. And you watch the video, and his head goes back into the left when he gets shot, and you're like, "What am I looking at here?"

    22. THTony Hinchcliffe1:10:06

        Right.

    23. JRJoe Rogan1:10:06

        Like, "What's going on here?"

    24. THTony Hinchcliffe1:10:07

        It-

    25. JRJoe Rogan1:10:08

        And he got shot in the neck as well.

    26. THTony Hinchcliffe1:10:10

        Yeah.

    27. JRJoe Rogan1:10:10

        That's another thing. Like, you could see he grabs his neck, and then you see his head go back. And it's not consistent with this idea of a, a magic bullet that goes through two people and creates all the... It looks like he's getting hit multiple times.

    28. THTony Hinchcliffe1:10:23

        Right. And the brain goes back.

    29. BRBrian Redban1:10:26

        When it's in slow motion, it's such a grasp.

    30. THTony Hinchcliffe1:10:26

        It goes into the trunk.

Episode duration: 2:35:12