Joe Rogan Experience #1957 - Shane Gillis

Shane Gillis is the co-host of "Matt and Shane's Secret Podcast" with Matt McCusker. His special, "Shane Gillis: Live in Austin," is available via YouTube, and season two of "Gilly and Keeves," his sketch comedy series with John McKeever, is available now at www.gillyandkeeves.tv. www.shanemgillis.com

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Jun 27, 20242h 56mWatch on YouTube ↗

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0:00 – 1:43
Austin allergies, post-show energy, and early COVID paranoia
1. NANarrator
  (drum roll) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out.
2. NANarrator
  The Joe Rogan Experience. (drum roll)
3. NANarrator
  Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night. All day. (rock music)
4. JRJoe Rogan
  Hey. Hey. What's up, Jake?
5. SGShane Gillis
  Yo. (laughs)
6. JRJoe Rogan
  What's going on, baby?
7. SGShane Gillis
  Nothing, dude?
8. JRJoe Rogan
  It's been fun, huh?
9. SGShane Gillis
  That was crazy.
10. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah. Last night was fucking awesome.
11. SGShane Gillis
  That was-
12. JRJoe Rogan
  Woo.
13. SGShane Gillis
  Sorry, I got allergies, dude.
14. JRJoe Rogan
  Do you?
15. SGShane Gillis
  Hear my voice?
16. JRJoe Rogan
  Is that what's going on?
17. SGShane Gillis
  It's very scratchy, yeah.
18. JRJoe Rogan
  Is that the, uh ... Yeah, there's a lot of, like ... What is it, cedar? Is it cedar time?
19. SGShane Gillis
  As soon as I got down here, I got crushed.
20. JRJoe Rogan
  There's ragwood and cedar, and, uh, there's a l- ... Oh, ragweed? Ragweed. Ragweed and cedar and a bunch of shit going on in this town.
21. SGShane Gillis
  Oh.
22. JRJoe Rogan
  I'm lucky I don't get it.
23. SGShane Gillis
  Really?
24. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah, I don't get allergies.
25. SGShane Gillis
  Ugh. I get fucking destroyed, dude.
26. JRJoe Rogan
  My family gets it, though.
27. SGShane Gillis
  I had to wear ... During COVID I got like a lake house, like right when it was starting, and it was, you know, it was March, April, so it was crazy. I had to wear fucking ski goggles when we were out on the boat.
28. JRJoe Rogan
  (laughs)
29. SGShane Gillis
  Dude, I was getting shitfaced (laughs) wearing full ski ...
30. JRJoe Rogan
  (laughs)
1:43 – 3:13
Key West comedy crowds: drunk tourists vs. “smart jokes”
1. JRJoe Rogan
  So you were in ... Were you working in Key West?
2. SGShane Gillis
  Airbnb was like $100. Yeah.
3. JRJoe Rogan
  Were we doing that little club?
4. SGShane Gillis
  Yeah.
5. JRJoe Rogan
  I heard that club's great.
6. SGShane Gillis
  Perfect.
7. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah?
8. SGShane Gillis
  Yeah. It's a little, little room. You just ... And it's Key West, so it's just-
9. JRJoe Rogan
  What are those people like down there? Those are, like, checked-out, flip-flop wearing-
10. SGShane Gillis
  Wild drunk ladies.
11. JRJoe Rogan
  (laughs)
12. SGShane Gillis
  Like, you say "dick," they're like, "Yeah."
13. JRJoe Rogan
  (laughs)
14. SGShane Gillis
  (laughs) You try to do one smart joke, they're like, "What?"
15. JRJoe Rogan
  (laughs)
16. SGShane Gillis
  "What'd you just say?"
17. JRJoe Rogan
  (laughs) They're not here to think.
18. SGShane Gillis
  No. They don't understand the nuance.
19. JRJoe Rogan
  They're here to drink margaritas. (laughs)
20. SGShane Gillis
  Yeah. Like the George Washington bit. I'm like, "Slavery." They're like ... Oh.
21. JRJoe Rogan
  "Yeah." (laughs)
22. SGShane Gillis
  It's like, "Oh, no."
23. JRJoe Rogan
  That would be hell. Would be hell would be stuck around people that you could never have a smart conversation with. That would be hell.
24. SGShane Gillis
  Yeah.
25. JRJoe Rogan
  You know, there's some people, like ... You know, like, those people, you have a con- ... You start a conversation, and you go, "Oh, this is like level two forever."
26. SGShane Gillis
  Yeah. Yeah.
27. JRJoe Rogan
  We're at level two forever. We're never getting to level 10.
28. SGShane Gillis
  I hate when someone makes a point that you're like, "Yeah."
29. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah.
30. SGShane Gillis
  You know what I mean? Like when someone ... Yeah. They're like, "Here's what I've been thinking lately."
3:13 – 4:24
23&Me identity pride, shaving the mustache, and roast-fueled friendship
1. SGShane Gillis
  Speaking of nose length, did I show you my 23&Me?
2. JRJoe Rogan
  Uh, you did. (laughs) Multiple, multiple times. (laughs)
3. SGShane Gillis
  That fuck- that fucked me up. Last night we were out dinner-
4. JRJoe Rogan
  Uh ...
5. SGShane Gillis
  ... and I was like, "Dude, look at my 23&Me results." You're like, "Yeah, you showed me yesterday."
6. JRJoe Rogan
  (laughs)
7. SGShane Gillis
  "You're really proud of that. It's fucking weird." And I was just like, "Fuck, it is weird." (laughs)
8. JRJoe Rogan
  (laughs) It's just 100% Irish.
9. SGShane Gillis
  Yeah. It was, uh ... Yeah, it was, uh ...
10. JRJoe Rogan
  Fitzimmons has that, too.
11. SGShane Gillis
  He's 100%?
12. JRJoe Rogan
  100%. He's all in.
13. SGShane Gillis
  I couldn't believe it.
14. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah.
15. SGShane Gillis
  I thought there was something-
16. JRJoe Rogan
  I looked at you. It looks pretty ... You look ... Yeah.
17. SGShane Gillis
  No, it's, it's obvious.
18. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah.
19. SGShane Gillis
  Just potato face.
20. JRJoe Rogan
  It's a lot.
21. SGShane Gillis
  Got rid of the mustache, dude.
22. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah, no.
23. SGShane Gillis
  Now you can, now you can see I don't have lips.
24. JRJoe Rogan
  I noticed that. I'm interested, why, what was the choice behind that?
25. SGShane Gillis
  I don't know. It was gross.
26. JRJoe Rogan
  Really?
27. SGShane Gillis
  My chin hairs were fucking disgusting.
28. JRJoe Rogan
  Really?
29. SGShane Gillis
  Yeah.
30. JRJoe Rogan
  You think?
4:24 – 10:09
Snake porn at dinner → bestiality laws → the Mr. Hands documentary
1. JRJoe Rogan
  That look. Snake porn. He showed me a fucking guy yesterday that's having sex with a snake. I'm like, "What?"
2. SGShane Gillis
  Shout out my friend Billy. (laughs)
3. JRJoe Rogan
  And then he, he, like, shows it to all of us while we're eating dinner.
4. SGShane Gillis
  And then the waiter kept walking by.
5. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah, he did that on purpose.
6. SGShane Gillis
  Yeah, that was like a bit.
7. JRJoe Rogan
  100%.
8. SGShane Gillis
  Yeah.
9. JRJoe Rogan
  Because it's like he, like, lingered, and then when the phone came back out-
10. SGShane Gillis
  Yeah.
11. JRJoe Rogan
  ... then he came back in.
12. SGShane Gillis
  Yeah.
13. JRJoe Rogan
  It wasn't ... It was the busboy.
14. SGShane Gillis
  Which is a pretty funny rumor for him to have about you.
15. JRJoe Rogan
  What, that my friend wants to watch people fuck snakes?
16. SGShane Gillis
  Now it's just like, "I waited on Joe Rogan."
17. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah.
18. SGShane Gillis
  "And he's watching snake porn and eating snakes."
19. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah, he's gonna blame me.
20. SGShane Gillis
  (laughs) Yeah, definitely.
21. JRJoe Rogan
  He's gonna blame me for you.
22. SGShane Gillis
  Yeah, you're into snake porn.
23. JRJoe Rogan
  He had this giant dude that's 100% Irish-
24. SGShane Gillis
  (laughs)
25. JRJoe Rogan
  ... who's just watching guys fuck snakes.
26. SGShane Gillis
  Some guy with no lips just kept showing him fucking snake porn.
27. JRJoe Rogan
  This guy looks like he should have a mustache, but he doesn't.
28. SGShane Gillis
  (laughs) Yeah, it was ... As soon as I got done shaving, I was like, "Fuck."
29. JRJoe Rogan
  That snake thing is wild.
30. SGShane Gillis
  Yeah, it was a tough one.
10:09 – 13:21
Joe’s childhood: narrowly avoiding predators and how different the past was
1. JRJoe Rogan
  ... two molestation attempts.
2. SGShane Gillis
  Really?
3. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah, two.
4. SGShane Gillis
  What'd you dodge? (laughs)
5. JRJoe Rogan
  Well, (clears throat) I dodged one of them when I was, I probably was, like, seven or eight years old. That was the scare... well, and they were both pretty scary, but that was the scarier one 'cause I was at the library and, uh, I was by myself. You know, I was a latchkey kid.
6. SGShane Gillis
  Yeah.
7. JRJoe Rogan
  They just, my parents just let me out of the house, which, you know, at the time, was kinda normal. In retrospect, like, thinking about it now, like, I couldn't imagine letting my seven-year-old just fucking-
8. SGShane Gillis
  Go to the public library.
9. JRJoe Rogan
  ... wander around.
10. SGShane Gillis
  (laughs) Yeah.
11. JRJoe Rogan
  Not just that, but walk to the public library.
12. SGShane Gillis
  Yeah.
13. JRJoe Rogan
  You know? In San Francisco. And, uh, this guy, um, I was looking at, I, you know, I was always into, like, um, horror movies and monster movies and shit.
14. SGShane Gillis
  Yeah.
15. JRJoe Rogan
  And so I was reading these books in this, they had a section of, like, you know, monster books.
16. SGShane Gillis
  Yeah.
17. JRJoe Rogan
  And this guy came up to me and he goes, uh, "Do you l- do you like monster books?" I go, "Yeah." And he goes, "Oh, I have some monster books in my car. You wanna see them?" I'm like-
18. SGShane Gillis
  No.
19. JRJoe Rogan
  ... "Okay." Like, I didn't know any better. I was just-
20. SGShane Gillis
  Yeah.
21. JRJoe Rogan
  ... fucking eight years old or whatever I was. And as I'm leaving with this guy, the, um, librarian starts screaming, "Joseph, you get away from that man." You know, like, "You, that g-
22. SGShane Gillis
  Yeah.
23. JRJoe Rogan
  ... that man just got out of jail." And she, she yells at him to get out of there, and the guy runs away and I just started crying and I was like, "Whoa."
24. SGShane Gillis
  Yeah.
25. JRJoe Rogan
  So, I dodged that bullet. And then another time when I was 13, when I was 13, we were hanging around this lake in, uh, Jamaica Plain. Uh, it was, um, this, like, uh, Jamaica Pond was this place we would go and fish. And, uh, there was another pond that was, like, this neighboring pond that was, like, slightly smaller, and this guy was always, like, running around the lake.
26. SGShane Gillis
  (laughs)
27. JRJoe Rogan
  He was jogging. And me and my friend Josh would be hanging out and this guy would come over and talk to us. You know, he seemed like a s- super normal guy, he used to be a teacher and he had retired and, you know, looked, probably was, like, in his 60s.... and then one day, it's just me.
28. SGShane Gillis
  He went for it.
29. JRJoe Rogan
  One day, it's just me and, uh, I'm, I'm fishing. And he comes by and he's drunk.
30. SGShane Gillis
  Damn.
13:21 – 16:11
Small-town “everyone knows the guy” stories and To Catch a Predator talk
1. SGShane Gillis
  We had a guy go for us.
2. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah.
3. SGShane Gillis
  There was a guy that used to linger. Hilarious, dude. He was, he was mentally challenged, but he would always hang out around my high school and he would go to all the, like, basketball games. One day, the... we had like a tape recorder for the national anthem to play at the beginning of games. They would just hold a mic next to a tape recorder.
4. JRJoe Rogan
  (laughs)
5. SGShane Gillis
  It broke, so then the mentally handicapped guy stood up and started singing. (laughs)
6. JRJoe Rogan
  (laughs)
7. SGShane Gillis
  And the whole fucking gym was like... They started listening... Everybody just listened to the guy singing the national anthem.
8. JRJoe Rogan
  Oh my God. Did he get all the words right?
9. SGShane Gillis
  I, I don't remember. I doubt it.
10. JRJoe Rogan
  (humming)
11. SGShane Gillis
  I doubt it, dude. I think he was freestyling a little. (laughs)
12. JRJoe Rogan
  And the rocket's red glare.
13. SGShane Gillis
  Yeah. But no, he would try to get you. He would go to games.
14. JRJoe Rogan
  Oh.
15. SGShane Gillis
  But he was like, uh... Again, it was, it wasn't that long ago. It was long enough that like people were like, "Yeah, he's weird."
16. JRJoe Rogan
  Hmm.
17. SGShane Gillis
  That old thing, where like if... Yeah, there's a town pedophile but he's a weird guy.
18. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah.
19. SGShane Gillis
  So he would like, be like, "You guys wanna play football?" And we were little kids at the high school football game playing, like, touch football. And he was like, "You guys wanna come out to my car? I have Nerf balls." And we were all like, "No, dude. Stop trying to fuck us."
20. JRJoe Rogan
  (laughs)
21. SGShane Gillis
  (laughs) Like, we knew what he was doing. He just... He was like, "All right, see you guys."
22. JRJoe Rogan
  Did he get away with it with anybody?
23. SGShane Gillis
  Probably.
24. JRJoe Rogan
  If you get... the mentally handicapped guy tricks you-
25. SGShane Gillis
  Hmm.
26. JRJoe Rogan
  ... into getting into his car.
27. SGShane Gillis
  Nerf balls. I got Nerf balls out of my car.
28. JRJoe Rogan
  That's how he gets you?
29. SGShane Gillis
  And we were just fully like, "Dude."
30. JRJoe Rogan
  Nobody would ever like, take your advice again.
16:11 – 23:12
India consent laws, online horniness, and demographic dating math
1. SGShane Gillis
  We might've talked about this before but I love when they get fucking Indian dudes.
2. JRJoe Rogan
  Why Indian dudes?
3. SGShane Gillis
  'Cause they, they're just like, "Yeah." They're from India, you know what I mean?
4. JRJoe Rogan
  Oh, and in-
5. SGShane Gillis
  And they're like-
6. JRJoe Rogan
  ... India you're allowed to do that?
7. SGShane Gillis
  They're like, "Are, are you aware there's a 13-year-old girl?" He's like, "Yeah." (laughs) "Get the fuck outta here." (laughs) Like, "I'm trying to fuck this kid."
8. JRJoe Rogan
  Really?
9. SGShane Gillis
  They, yeah, they get foreigners all the time that are just like, "I didn't know." What are we talking about?
10. JRJoe Rogan
  That you guys have laws.
11. SGShane Gillis
  Yeah.
12. JRJoe Rogan
  Really?
13. SGShane Gillis
  I feel like that's pretty-
14. JRJoe Rogan
  So what are the laws in India?
15. SGShane Gillis
  I, I don't wanna besmirch India but-
16. JRJoe Rogan
  Too late.
17. SGShane Gillis
  Probably.
18. JRJoe Rogan
  (laughs)
19. SGShane Gillis
  I think if you're from rural India, you can fuck whoever's out there.
20. JRJoe Rogan
  Really? Well, I mean, do you think-
21. SGShane Gillis
  Jamie.
22. NANarrator
  Help.
23. JRJoe Rogan
  ... in the United States-
24. SGShane Gillis
  Help. (laughs)
25. JRJoe Rogan
  ... there's parts of the United States where the, the age of consent was very low up until recently.
26. SGShane Gillis
  Yeah.
27. JRJoe Rogan
  Like, isn't it still like 16 in some states?
28. SGShane Gillis
  I'm sure. I'm sure like especially states that are very religious.
29. JRJoe Rogan
  How the fuck is that not like a federal thing?
30. SGShane Gillis
  Uh, yeah.
23:12 – 28:04
Modern dating despair: Instagram competition, robots, and Fleshlight stories
1. JRJoe Rogan
  I don't know, man. It's, uh, the whole fucking finding the compatible person thing. Like Jesus Christ. I can't imagine it.
2. SGShane Gillis
  No. Especially now with-
3. JRJoe Rogan
  Especially today.
4. SGShane Gillis
  ... social media. That hurts, dude. You can look it up. Start talking to a girl, you scroll back. You're like, "Goddamn. She's got a lot of boyfriends in these," you know? See the-
5. JRJoe Rogan
  Girls have a lot of shits.
6. SGShane Gillis
  ... digital foot ... the puss print.
7. JRJoe Rogan
  They have so many options.
8. SGShane Gillis
  Yeah.
9. JRJoe Rogan
  A hot girl who's online. Like if you, if you, uh, are going back and forth with a hot girl. If you're a young guy now, you're a 30-year-old guy now, and there's another girl and she's 30 also.
10. SGShane Gillis
  Yeah.
11. JRJoe Rogan
  And you go to her Instagram account. Wow, she's really pretty. 284,000 followers.
12. SGShane Gillis
  Oh. I'm out. (laughs) It's over.
13. JRJoe Rogan
  Oh, Jesus Christ.
14. SGShane Gillis
  Yeah.
15. JRJoe Rogan
  And then you look in the likes and the comments.
16. SGShane Gillis
  It's all Drake-
17. JRJoe Rogan
  You know, it's all fire and hearts.
18. SGShane Gillis
  It's like goddammit. Drake liked it? (laughs)
19. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah. Jesus Christ.
20. SGShane Gillis
  Yeah. It's over.
21. JRJoe Rogan
  It's all rappers in there, athletes.
22. SGShane Gillis
  Oh.
23. JRJoe Rogan
  Black people.
24. SGShane Gillis
  Fucking rock stars.
25. JRJoe Rogan
  Everybody just slinging dick.
26. SGShane Gillis
  (laughs) Yeah. There you go. Let's get it.
27. JRJoe Rogan
  Everybody is just slinging dick.
28. SGShane Gillis
  Yeah.
29. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah.
30. SGShane Gillis
  It's a tough time.
28:04 – 32:08
NFL “Vikings,” mushrooms at Dave & Buster’s, and sports as a violence outlet
1. JRJoe Rogan
  Those guys are animal. I had Derek Wolfe on.
2. SGShane Gillis
  I saw that.
3. JRJoe Rogan
  Did you see what he's talking about, like when, when he walked into the arena what he wanted to do to everyone that he saw?
4. SGShane Gillis
  No. I didn't get to that.
5. JRJoe Rogan
  He's like, "I want," uh, he goes, "I want to fucking murder all of you."
6. SGShane Gillis
  Yeah.
7. JRJoe Rogan
  "Just, just to smash you and kill you." And like he's walking through the crowd thinking that he just really wants to just-
8. SGShane Gillis
  He was a freak.
9. JRJoe Rogan
  ... run into the crowd and start smashing people. (laughs)
10. SGShane Gillis
  Dude, he's a monster. I love what he was saying.
11. JRJoe Rogan
  I mean, he didn't do anything. He's a nice guy, but those viking instincts run deep, son.
12. SGShane Gillis
  Yeah. There's a dude who plays for the Bills, I was hanging out with a bunch of those guys. I did a show in Buffalo and then we went out, and uh, his name's Spencer Brown, he's a right tackle. I was on mushrooms. I went... Did I tell you this?
13. JRJoe Rogan
  No. (laughs)
14. SGShane Gillis
  Dude, this was like the greatest night of my life. All right. Hold on.
15. JRJoe Rogan
  (laughs)
16. SGShane Gillis
  This was the best night I've ever had. So I did a show in Buffalo. Then the next night it was, it was Sunday. On Sunday we went to the game. Oh, I told you this. When Gabe Davis gave me his jersey and I looked like a Down Syndrome guy. Like, "Yeah."
17. JRJoe Rogan
  Yes, yes. (laughs)
18. SGShane Gillis
  Uh, but that night we went out to, uh, fucking Dave & Buster's. I took a ton of mushrooms. Tons. Way more than I thought I took. I was fucked up. Uh, but then, so like all the cool black dudes on the team were like hanging out, being cool. And then it was just me and like a white O-lineman. Uh, Spencer Brown is like 6'9", and I, I was just so high. I was like, "Dude, this is a Viking. This is an actual Viking."
19. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah.
20. SGShane Gillis
  "Thank God we live today-"
21. JRJoe Rogan
  Thank God.
22. SGShane Gillis
  "... where I'm watching him play fucking video games-"
23. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah.
24. SGShane Gillis
  "... and then arcade games."
25. JRJoe Rogan
  You gotta give people like that-
26. SGShane Gillis
  If that guy-
27. JRJoe Rogan
  ... some kind of distraction.
28. SGShane Gillis
  If that guy got into a town, that man, it'd just be over.
29. JRJoe Rogan
  That's what it was, man.
30. SGShane Gillis
  It's over.
32:08 – 43:46
Deep UFC run: GOAT debates, Usman–Edwards, and fight mechanics
1. JRJoe Rogan
  Back in the day, Chael Sonnen was the best guy to interview. Chael Sonnen would put up-
2. SGShane Gillis
  He's in my algorithm. I get-
3. JRJoe Rogan
  He would put on a show.
4. SGShane Gillis
  I get Chael Sonnen-
5. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah.
6. SGShane Gillis
  ... clips constantly.
7. JRJoe Rogan
  He's a, he's a smart dude, man. And back in the day when... He was the first guy to real, really figure out pro wrestling style promotion with, like, legit fight skills. He w- I mean, he almost beat Anderson Silva. He o-
8. SGShane Gillis
  Yeah.
9. JRJoe Rogan
  ... almost won that fight. If he didn't get caught in that triangle in the last round, he would've won that fight.
10. SGShane Gillis
  Mm-hmm.
11. JRJoe Rogan
  And it was a grueling fucking fight, and he just kept taking Anderson down. And he beat the shit out of Nate Marquardt when Nate Marquardt was in his prime. Like, he was a real fighter.
12. SGShane Gillis
  Yeah.
13. JRJoe Rogan
  He just was not Jon Jones. There's like, there's like levels even to savages-
14. SGShane Gillis
  Yeah.
15. JRJoe Rogan
  ... which is so crazy.
16. SGShane Gillis
  Yeah.
17. JRJoe Rogan
  Chael was, like, a little smaller too. He, like, really shouldn't have been fighting the guys that were... And that Jon Jones range-
18. SGShane Gillis
  He's soon gone, Jon Jones.
19. JRJoe Rogan
  ... 205, I mean, J- Jon's cutting to get to 205, Chael's fighting at 185, like, sketchy.
20. SGShane Gillis
  Yeah.
21. JRJoe Rogan
  Like, yeah, Anderson and him, they fought at 85. Jon is big, dude.
22. SGShane Gillis
  Yeah.
23. JRJoe Rogan
  He's big. He's big and long and strong as fuck. That's too big. Like J- when, wh- remember when Jon and him fought? It was a, a mauling.
24. SGShane Gillis
  No, I don't. I don't.
25. JRJoe Rogan
  It was a horrific mauling.
26. SGShane Gillis
  He fought Chael Sonnen?
27. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah, Jon beat him up so bad that he broke his own toe pushing off the ground, smashing him. Like-
28. SGShane Gillis
  There was that, was that, how much-
29. JRJoe Rogan
  ... pretty sure that's how he broke his toe. He broke his toe for sure in that fight.
30. SGShane Gillis
  There was that crossover in the UFC where, like, dudes started, like, being athlete. Not saying Chael Sonnen wasn't an athlete, but you know what I mean? There was that, like-
43:46 – 1:11:25
Heavyweights and rematches: Stipe, Francis, Izzy–Pereira, and ‘coolest’ fighters
1. SGShane Gillis
  I was gonna ask you who he's going to kill next if it's Stipe.
2. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah.
3. SGShane Gillis
  Let's see this.
4. JRJoe Rogan
  Stipe and him are gonna fight. That's gonna be a- a different fight.
5. SGShane Gillis
  But I remember-
6. JRJoe Rogan
  'Cause Stipe has way better wrestling than Cyril Gane. Stipe's got a shit ton of experience. Stipe can box-
7. SGShane Gillis
  I remember thinking Stipe was going to die when he fought Ngannou the first time, when he beat Ngannou.
8. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah, that was pretty wild. I mean, that showed how durable he is.
9. SGShane Gillis
  He just survived that.
10. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah.
11. SGShane Gillis
  (laughs)
12. JRJoe Rogan
  That showed how durable he is. But there's other fights that show, like- like, you can't sleep on Stipe's standup skills. Like Stipe's a very good boxer, very good striker.
13. SGShane Gillis
  Yeah.
14. JRJoe Rogan
  Remember when he fought DC and he kept ripping him with that left hook to the body?
15. SGShane Gillis
  Yeah.
16. JRJoe Rogan
  Like he hit him with a couple-
17. SGShane Gillis
  Oh, it was...
18. JRJoe Rogan
  ... of those, and then DC was fucked.
19. SGShane Gillis
  That was one of those where I was watching it, it's like when you're playing a video game and you don't know how to block the body. (laughs)
20. JRJoe Rogan
  (laughs)
21. SGShane Gillis
  He comes out, he doesn't, uh, he just keeps doing it. He can't stop it.
22. JRJoe Rogan
  Well, he just did it very skillfully, man. I'm telling you. Stipe, like the- he- he would show you the jab and then dig under.
23. SGShane Gillis
  Oh.
24. JRJoe Rogan
  And he did it multiple times. Like he just keeps h- That's also, that's the side of the liver. When you get hit on the liver, dude, it is a horrible feeling. Like your whole body just, it's like you get electrically shocked. It's like... Yeah, we hit that over and over again. He just kept digging into his body.
25. SGShane Gillis
  Oh.
26. JRJoe Rogan
  So the thing is, it's like Stipe is not Cyril Gane. Stipe's the most successful UFC heavyweight champion ever.
27. SGShane Gillis
  Jesus Christ.
28. JRJoe Rogan
  He defended the title more than anybody.
29. SGShane Gillis
  Yeah.
30. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah, I know- I know that Francis knocked him out in his last fight, so people just will dismiss. They'll say, "Oh, it's maybe he's washed up," or, "Maybe these guys are better," or maybe, but that fucking guy's been counted out from the beginning.