EVERY SPOKEN WORD
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(drum roll) Joe Rogan podcast,…
- NANarrator
(drum roll) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out. The Joe Rogan Experience. Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night. All day. (rock music)
- JRJoe Rogan
Hey, what up?
- HMHowie Mandel
Can you hear me?
- JRJoe Rogan
I hear you perfect.
- HMHowie Mandel
Okay.
- JRJoe Rogan
Hello, Howie Mandel.
- HMHowie Mandel
Hi, Joe Rogan.
- JRJoe Rogan
Good to see you, my friend.
- HMHowie Mandel
I know.
- JRJoe Rogan
Very good to see you.
- HMHowie Mandel
I know. And a- and amazing to see you. Before you start anything, I've gotta tell you how exci- are you ... uh, uh, uh, uh, did we start?
- JRJoe Rogan
No. Yeah, we're starting.
- HMHowie Mandel
Okay.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- HMHowie Mandel
Uh, I gotta tell you how excited I am to see you. I am the biggest fan. If, if there's one thing that I'm a fan of, it's innovation.
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm.
- HMHowie Mandel
And I think that you have become the comedy innovator. And, and, um, uh, I'm blowing smoke up your ass r- right at the beginning of this. And I, I gotta say, what I've seen from the outside, you know? In 1978, I came down to The Comedy Store, and I, I got up on a lark. Mike Binder got me up there on a lark. I, I, I was not pursuing it. I had gone on at Yuk Yuk's in Toronto, and I fell in love with this. Mitzi gave me my biggest break. Um, and there was a guy by the name of George Foster who was in the audience that night that said, "Hey, do you wanna do TV?" And I said, "Yeah." And then he hired me to do Make Me Laugh, which I did with Binder and a bunch of other-
- JRJoe Rogan
Wow.
- HMHowie Mandel
... people. And with no intent of making this a, um, a, a career, you know? I, I didn't, I didn't pursue comedy. I knew nothing about comedy. I was a fan of comedy. I watched comedy, stand-up. I, even when I went to Yuk Yuk's, I had never, you know... I don't know. Uh, uh, let me get back to you, and then I'll talk about, I'll talk about me. But-
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- HMHowie Mandel
... the, the thing is that I'm aware of the history of comedy. And when I was a kid, it was in New York. Everybody went to New York. That's where Lenny Bruce was working. You just showed me a picture of Lenny Bruce. And then when Carson made his way out to California, there was a shift where everybody had to come to California, you know? And you had to get on at The Comedy Store or maybe the Improv with the intent of maybe, if you were lucky, getting a spot on The Tonight Show.
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm.
- HMHowie Mandel
Right?
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- HMHowie Mandel
And I, I don't know. How old are you?
- JRJoe Rogan
55.
- HMHowie Mandel
55, you're a kid.
- JRJoe Rogan
How old are you?
- HMHowie Mandel
(laughs) I'll be 68 this year.
- JRJoe Rogan
You look fucking great.
- 15:00 – 30:00
(clears throat) Uh, I did…
- JRJoe Rogan
"Oh, this is what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna go on stage. I don't have anything prepared. I'm just gonna, like, fumble through it. And I got some rubber gloves in case shit goes sideways." I'd be like, "Oh my God, I'm gonna watch a spectacular bombing." I would sit in the back of the room like, "This guy's gonna eat shit." But no, because whatever it is that you have, this weird, intangible thing that you can't write down, that you can do that, and it's hilarious. My friend, Demetri, rest in peace, he, uh, sent me, w- he, he gave me one of your CDs when we were both like... I guess I was like 21 or 22. When did you do your first CD?
- HMHowie Mandel
(clears throat) Uh, I did an album in '84.
- JRJoe Rogan
Okay. So somewhere around then, a little bit after that, he gives me the CD. And it was a lot of that, but it was so funny. It was so rid- We were like crying laughing, like me and him. He's like this fucking hulking, national Tae Kwon Do champion dude, this bi- enormous heavyweight guy. And he's like dying laughing, just dying laughing, with two of us in my car, just laughing our asses off.
- HMHowie Mandel
'Cause I'm just silly, uh-
- JRJoe Rogan
You know, but it was so good, dude. It was so fun, and it was one of those-
- HMHowie Mandel
Thank you.
- JRJoe Rogan
... things where you can't, you can't, like, figure out why that's funny. Like s- that's not even-
- HMHowie Mandel
Because it's funny, you know?
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- HMHowie Mandel
This sense of humor. I think most people don't have a sense of humor. I always say this. And a sense of humor is to find humor where other people don't find it. Richard Pryor found it in a very dark, bleak, historical upbringing-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yes.
- HMHowie Mandel
... you know, and, and characters that were probably scary, probably fucked up. And when he imitated them and told you these stories, we laughed really hard. You know, that's why the, the tragedy and the comedy masks are very close together. They're, they r- they are close together.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- HMHowie Mandel
And if you could find the humor in those moments, then that's what it is. The humor for me is, I was drowning in public-
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- HMHowie Mandel
... you know? And I have th- uh, th- and that's the truth. And I had... You know, as a kid growing up, I didn't have a fucking friend in the world. I'm weird. I have mental health issues. I, uh, which weren't diagnosed until I was in my 40s. And, uh, everything I was ever expelled for, gotten in trouble for, paid for is, uh, I mean, is what I get paid for today. And I found a, you know, I found a stream that is flowing my way. But it's, uh, I feel more lucky than skilled.
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, well what was it like? 'Cause you had to develop an act, right? 'Cause then you went on to do these huge places, and you're doing an hour. Like, you had an act. So how did you-
- HMHowie Mandel
It came.
- JRJoe Rogan
... did you just piece it together with all the different performances?
- HMHowie Mandel
Yes.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh.
- HMHowie Mandel
So what I do, and still do now, is I go- I put together an act. I put together... Like, if something funny happens, I realized, well then, you could just talk about it.
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- HMHowie Mandel
And you can just talk about it. And if you real- if you really talk about it, then it becomes something funny. And you could even talk about how I'm putting together an act. You know, I was talking about how, um, in my act, you know, I'm, um, I'm here playing in town. I wanna come over to-
- JRJoe Rogan
Come over.
- HMHowie Mandel
Can I play here for-
- JRJoe Rogan
Two shows tonight. Yeah.
- HMHowie Mandel
I would, I would love to drop in and-
- JRJoe Rogan
Come on down. Jim Breuer's gonna be there.
- HMHowie Mandel
I love Jim Breuer.
- 30:00 – 45:00
Ah. Mark Harmon. …
- HMHowie Mandel
appearances and acting appearances on this thing.
- JRJoe Rogan
Ah. Mark Harmon.
- HMHowie Mandel
Mark Harmons started there, too. That's Mark-
- JRJoe Rogan
Sexiest Man Alive one of those years.
- HMHowie Mandel
Yeah. Well, you remember all the Sexiest Men Alive?
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs) Just a few.
- HMHowie Mandel
Yeah, and Bill Daniels-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- HMHowie Mandel
... he was, uh, Kit.
- JRJoe Rogan
Wow.
- HMHowie Mandel
And Norman Lloyd, who just died at 106 at the bottom there. Norman Lloyd, uh-
- JRJoe Rogan
Who's that gentleman to the left of, um, Denzel? I know that guy. That guy's been in everything.
- HMHowie Mandel
To the left? Uh, David Morse.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yes.
- HMHowie Mandel
David Morse.
- JRJoe Rogan
That guy's been in everything.
- HMHowie Mandel
He's been in everything. Uh, and so was Bill Daniels, was in The Graduate, Mark Harmons on NCIS. Um, Norman Lloyd was, um, the muse for Al- Alfred Hitchcock. He was the bad guy in Spellbound.
- JRJoe Rogan
Whoa.
- HMHowie Mandel
So I walked onto this and, and I, I replaced a guy by the name of David Paymer. Do you know who that is?
- JRJoe Rogan
No.
- HMHowie Mandel
He won... He... I got nominated for an Academy Award for Mr. Saturday Night. I think he played Billy Crystal's brother in Mr. Saturday Night.
- JRJoe Rogan
Whoa.
- HMHowie Mandel
That's who I, that's who I replaced.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, yeah, that guy is great.
- HMHowie Mandel
Another, another Jew-y looking guy.
- JRJoe Rogan
He's great, though.
- HMHowie Mandel
It was Jew for Jew. Yeah, he is great, and I was so happy. I always felt guilty, you know, taking somebody's place.
- JRJoe Rogan
'Cause some of those guys, th- well, they'll play like a, a, a tortured intellect, like a very high anxiety guy, like he's the best at that shit.
- HMHowie Mandel
He is, he's-
- JRJoe Rogan
When he's play... He, you, you like get tense, like whenever he's dealing with something, like, "Oh, shit."
- 45:00 – 1:00:00
Yes. …
- HMHowie Mandel
at your club?
- JRJoe Rogan
Yes.
- HMHowie Mandel
Oh, I love it.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yes.
- HMHowie Mandel
So then I could-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- HMHowie Mandel
... I can do my, uh-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, and get crazy. Don't... We'll tell everybody. Don't tell anybody. Shh.
- HMHowie Mandel
Don't tell anybody that I said cunt.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- HMHowie Mandel
Can I say cunt?
- JRJoe Rogan
You definitely can, yeah.
- HMHowie Mandel
No, on this.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, you did twice.
- HMHowie Mandel
I was... Oh.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, it's all good.
- HMHowie Mandel
Yeah, I know. And- and then you can... I already signed... The- the... Just coming here was... It drove me crazy. You had a car pick me up, and in the back of the car was dude wipes. I asked the guy, "What's that?" He says, "For your balls?" What is dude wipes? Is that-
- JRJoe Rogan
I think it's for your butt, right?
- NANarrator
It's for everything.
- JRJoe Rogan
It's for everything.
- HMHowie Mandel
But just dude wipes what bo- bothered me that they're in the car.
- JRJoe Rogan
It seems odd that those are in the car.
- HMHowie Mandel
Like, what would you do? But... Like, I'm on my way-
- JRJoe Rogan
Like, you have a shitty ass in the car and you wanna wipe it off before you get out. That's amazing. (laughs)
- HMHowie Mandel
In the fucking car, so they offer me that, and then I walk into this place and the guy that's sitting right here says, "You gotta sign this." The- uh, like a- a release.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- HMHowie Mandel
But it's not... I- I could hold a pen with my sleeve. It's a- it was an iPad. I had to touch...
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, with the finger.
- HMHowie Mandel
Yeah, so it's like-
- JRJoe Rogan
Those are ridiculous.
- 1:00:00 – 1:07:25
Yeah.…
- HMHowie Mandel
this technology, to answer your question, which could be, like, you can say, "Well, we don't have to travel anymore. We're gonna be locked in our own little worlds."
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- HMHowie Mandel
... at the same time, it gives me access to worlds that I couldn't go to.
- JRJoe Rogan
Sure.
- HMHowie Mandel
You can go do, I can go to a con- a concert right now. I could take one of those boxes and be all over the world. We have them at, all over the world, in Japan, in London, all over Asia, everywhere. I could be in 20, 20,000 theaters all at the same time and see every face of every person.
- JRJoe Rogan
Whoa.
- HMHowie Mandel
So, I can do a, a world tour without getting on a plane.
- JRJoe Rogan
That's pretty dope.
- HMHowie Mandel
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
I'm still gonna wanna see people live, but I could totally see why that would be very appealing to a lot of people.
- HMHowie Mandel
You think you wanna see people live?
- JRJoe Rogan
Especially if you want-
- HMHowie Mandel
But I'm telling you, like, even, even at the, the Mothership, if somebody didn't wanna fly in, if during the day, you wanted to do Q&As with Chappelle-
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm-hmm.
- HMHowie Mandel
... or whatever, I promise you that those people sitting in the room will feel like, and he will feel like, he's in the room with them, talking to them.
- JRJoe Rogan
It's a great idea.
- HMHowie Mandel
It is a great idea. But that's, I think that speaks, that's just one part of-
- JRJoe Rogan
That's interes- I'm interested in that. That's interesting.
- HMHowie Mandel
Yeah. So, what I'm saying is, technology can be really scary. It could fuck you up. It's kinda like the knife (laughs) you know?
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, yeah. But it's also... I, look, I love the, the technology of cell phones. You know, I'm, I'm so hypocritical in that way. Like, a part of me is like, "My God, we're so addicted to these things." But also, look how goddamn convenient it is. You can take photo and video anytime you want.
- HMHowie Mandel
When's the last time you made a phone call? (laughs) You don't anymore.
- JRJoe Rogan
I make 'em all the time.
- HMHowie Mandel
Oh, you do?
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. I like talking to people.
- HMHowie Mandel
Okay.
- JRJoe Rogan
You have to talk to Joey Diaz. You can't text him.
- HMHowie Mandel
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
If you text him, he's like, "Call me, cocksucker." And you gotta call him.
- HMHowie Mandel
Okay, so for Joey Diaz-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
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