The Joe Rogan ExperienceJoe Rogan Experience #1978 - Ms Pat
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- NANarrator
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- PAMs. Pat
Hello, Joe Rogan.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs) It's good to see you.
- PAMs. Pat
It's good to see you too.
- JRJoe Rogan
What's happening?
- PAMs. Pat
Uh, life. Life is good. I moved back to Atlanta. My husband retired. I'm having fun. I'm getting ready to move into my first theater tour called Ya Girl Done Made It!
- JRJoe Rogan
That's beautiful.
- PAMs. Pat
Life is beautiful.
- JRJoe Rogan
That's exciting. How's your show doing?
- PAMs. Pat
Uh, my show is doing great. It's, uh, we just wrapped it. Well, the third season just came out in February. Got some big news coming. Uh, you know, see what the fourth season gotta give. You know, it's going great.
- JRJoe Rogan
It's a funny fucking show.
- PAMs. Pat
Thank you. People are loving it. And I-
- JRJoe Rogan
It's a real sitcom, you know, and there's not a lot of those anymore.
- PAMs. Pat
It's not. It's not. And that's, you know, we was nominated for an Emmy.
- JRJoe Rogan
Nice.
- PAMs. Pat
Uh, first time for BET or BET+.
- JRJoe Rogan
Really?
- PAMs. Pat
Yes, yes, yes. We was, the director got nominated for such a great episode. And so we'll see what we can repeat this year.
- JRJoe Rogan
Who's that gentleman that you brought with me last time, your executive producer?
- PAMs. Pat
Uh, yeah. He created the show with me. Jordan Cooper. He just-
- JRJoe Rogan
Jordan Cooper is a genius. That young man.
- PAMs. Pat
He is.
- JRJoe Rogan
Like, how old is he?
- PAMs. Pat
I think he's 27 now.
- JRJoe Rogan
That's insane.
- PAMs. Pat
Yeah, he-
- JRJoe Rogan
He, I've never met anybody that knows more about TV. When he was telling us about the history of, like, how Lucy and Desi Arnaz controlled that show and how they took it and took it on tour and then made it into a television show, like I didn't know all that shit.
- PAMs. Pat
He loves TV. Um, we just, um, we did a whole Lucy and Ethel, me and Tami Roman 'cause people love us together. I, he brought her into, you know, he casted her before he dang near casted me. (laughs) And he put us together and he said, "I'm telling you, y'all gonna be like Lucy and Ethel." And that's what the world think we are now.
- 15:00 – 30:00
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- PAMs. Pat
things I told Hollywood. You can never give me as much money as I can steal from you. Now, let's make this show." So a lot of- (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- PAMs. Pat
I think a lot of writers are just stuck-
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs) Yeah, stuck.
- PAMs. Pat
... inside the box, and they just recycle the same fucking joke.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- PAMs. Pat
If I heard it, I don't want it.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- PAMs. Pat
If it's close, uh, to what I've heard before in the barber shop or on another show, I'm like, "Get that shit outta here. Let's go back to the drawing board." And that's one of the things. We write on the floor. A joke, I be like, "I heard that shit." You, I'm a comedian. You can't give me nothing I ain't heard. I done heard it from the white side, to the Black side, to any other side, 'cause I played both sides of the ring. So you can't pull that shit off on me. And a lot of time, I'm like, "Nah, I'm not doing that wacky shit."
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm-hmm.
- PAMs. Pat
"Hacky-ass shit. We ain't doing that."
- JRJoe Rogan
I think a lot of them lose their passion, you know? I think they just b- they do it so long, and it becomes a job, like they're a plumber now or they're-
- PAMs. Pat
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
... they're just a, uh, ha- you know, hanging wall board. They're just doing a job.
- PAMs. Pat
And Hollywood will drain you, too.
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm-hmm.
- PAMs. Pat
All those nos. And you, you have people-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- PAMs. Pat
... up there that making decisions that don't know shit about-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- PAMs. Pat
... um, don't know, really don't know shit about TV, some of them.
- JRJoe Rogan
Nah.
- PAMs. Pat
What is that movie that came out, a crazy-ass movie with the, uh, he was like a superhero. And, um, that movie was, it was on the shelf for a couple years. Um, was Ben Affleck in it?
- JRJoe Rogan
What movie was that?
- PAMs. Pat
What did, he had on a mask. It's a crazy-ass movie. (sighs) It was a hit, and I think they making a third one.
- JRJoe Rogan
Not Deadpool.
- PAMs. Pat
Deadpool.
- JRJoe Rogan
Deadpool.
- PAMs. Pat
Him.
- JRJoe Rogan
Okay, yeah.
- 30:00 – 45:00
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- PAMs. Pat
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- PAMs. Pat
(laughs) Now, if I'm busy...
- JRJoe Rogan
That's... (laughs) ... some people get really locked into those social media comments.
- PAMs. Pat
You know, I used to, 'cause, uh, you know, when I first started, you want people to like what you do, then I just took on my street mental, "Fuck you."
- JRJoe Rogan
This is- (laughs)
- PAMs. Pat
"Fuck you. You, you talking ..." You know, they'd be like, "Oh, your obesity." Uh, "'Cause I got money and I can eat, bitch."
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- PAMs. Pat
"You eat lettuce 'cause that's all you can afford to do. You motherfucking, uh, apron scot, whatever the fuck they call you. (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
(fart noise)
- PAMs. Pat
"Apricot-eating motherfucker." (laughs) "Get the fuck out my face."
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- PAMs. Pat
(laughs) I can cuss good, Joe.
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- PAMs. Pat
And I tell them all the time, "Leave me the fuck alone." And they don't come at me. And you know what? I, I, I have such a great fan base. They're called the Ms. Pat Crack Babies. And we have a Facebook page on Facebook. And, and when I tell you they ride or die, Joe, they ... And it was a bunch of white women that ready to write a letter to the Congress for Ms. Pat.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- PAMs. Pat
You come fucking with me, them soccer moms put down them pies-
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- PAMs. Pat
... and they'll tear your asshole up. Shout out to the Crack Babies. (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
You were telling me that somebody used your, that Crack Baby form as, like, a scam.
- PAMs. Pat
Oh. Yeah, Joe. So, uh, I don't go in it a lot 'cause I've been busy. So my, uh, my, my beautician, the girl who does my hair, she was like, "I think you need to take a look at this." So come to find out one of the fans was telling the other fans, "Let's do something nice for Ms. Pat." So I started this party in Atlanta, um, called the Ms. Pat Crack Babies. Uh, Ms. Pat's Fan Celebration, just to give back, 'cause I love my fans 'cause there's some ride or die ones out there. And right now, I can do it. I know you can't do it, but I can do it. So I threw a party for them in Atlanta, uh, invited 600 people down, VIP. All you had to do was get there, and I took care of you. And it was a great celebration. So I invited the wrong person, and they decided to say, "Let's do something good for Ms. Pat. Let's buy a Gucci purse. Let's do this." And just was taking all the fans' money. I didn't even notice.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh.
- PAMs. Pat
I ... When I finally noticed, she was a couple thousand dollars in. And I was like, "You bitch." One lady sent me some lotion. The bitch kept the lotion, Joe. She didn't even send me the lotion. So we kicked out the group. And I asked her what she did with the money, "I used it for myself." Get your silly ass out my group. So I threw her out.
- JRJoe Rogan
I used it for myself.
- PAMs. Pat
Yes.
- JRJoe Rogan
She told you the truth at least.
- PAMs. Pat
Yeah, she told me the truth. And then this lady, this same fan was coming to three and four shows, following me all around, calling me Mama.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh.
- PAMs. Pat
You know, I'm like, "Bitch, I'm not your mama, your dog's skin deep." But- (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- 45:00 – 1:00:00
Wow. …
- PAMs. Pat
to go to college locally because he didn't wanna leave my, my husband there with all the kids, you know. At the time, the baby was, uh, 15 months old when the mama left. She's nine now.
- JRJoe Rogan
Wow.
- PAMs. Pat
She's 10 now. So, you know, I just thank my family for even being there, and my husband for putting up with bullshit. He was like, "That's all you made was $50? $200? $300?" Shit, the plane ticket was $600. "Well, I made $400 of our dollars back. Pat, you're losing." I said, "But there's something here. You just gotta be patient."
- JRJoe Rogan
Wow. When did he come around? When did he realize?
- PAMs. Pat
Wh- I'll tell you when he realized. When Katt Williams, the first time Katt Williams called me for, uh, to go on his tour. And he said, "Wait, this bitch might be funny." (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs) How did Katt Williams see you?
- PAMs. Pat
Uh, we was, he was at an agency. Uh, can't remember the agency, but his, this guy called and said, I had just signed with that agent, and, um, that he was looking for a Black woman. And I sent over a little clip, and they picked me.
- JRJoe Rogan
Wow.
- PAMs. Pat
I was blown away. I was like, "I'm on tour with Katt Williams. I done made it."
- JRJoe Rogan
So what year was this?
- PAMs. Pat
When he did the tape, uh, Catapotholist, right after all of that other stuff, he, when he was, like, at the height. So I did the next DVD called Catapotholist. I don't remember what year, early 2006, maybe '07.
- JRJoe Rogan
When he was doing The Pimp Chronicles.
- PAMs. Pat
It was after The Pimp Chronicles.
- JRJoe Rogan
That Katt Williams one is the, he's one of the best comics ever.
- PAMs. Pat
Yes, he is, the nicest.
- JRJoe Rogan
And that... During th- that time period, especially when he was hot, when he was coming out hot.
- PAMs. Pat
Yes.
- JRJoe Rogan
That New Year's show that he did with Steve Harvey.
- PAMs. Pat
Mm-hmm.
- JRJoe Rogan
Do you ever see that show where he went on after Steve Harvey and shit all over him? (laughs)
- PAMs. Pat
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
He does it, he mimics him sliding across the floor and kicking him in the balls. He goes, "I'm a little motherfucker. I fight dirty." (laughs)
- PAMs. Pat
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
See how it's crazy shit. He was funny, man. Oh my God.
- PAMs. Pat
He still is.
- JRJoe Rogan
He's very funny. But v- s- like when he came out, he was so unique, like his delivery method is so unique, the way he dresses and...
- PAMs. Pat
Nobody was doing what Katt Williams doing. Now everybody's trying to do.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, but he's a, that's really him.
- PAMs. Pat
That is really him. Very intelligent too. I'm quite sure if-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- 1:00:00 – 1:06:02
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- PAMs. Pat
Back in the... I'm 51, so back in the day, they, I'm... Thank God they don't do this shit anymore. But they had a A and B group and a C and D group and an F. So, the smart kids and the dumb kids. The classroom was divided like that. They didn't have, like, special classes for people like us. And I used to see all the people in A group, Joe, and I wanted to be in that A group so bad. And I'll never forget the book was Impression and Encore. Those are the kids that could read and, you know, just those were the smart kids. I said, "I wanna be in this group. I wanna be in this group," 'cause that's how I am. I wanna be number one. And one day I get in the class, I get in the teacher, I was like, "Please let me just try, let me just try." Now I'm in a C/D group. Dumb as fuck. (laughs) So, and I begged the teacher. She finally put me in a group. Couldn't read worth shit. I look at her, everybody staring at me like, "What the fuck are you doing in this group?" (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- PAMs. Pat
And I remember the teacher said, "At least you tried." And I said, "If I don't do shit, I'm gonna get in this group." Never got in it because, you know, back in those days, they, that's, uh, just how they divided you. But it was a teacher that came along, I've told this story 100th time, it's true, who taught me how to read and who believed in me. And I'm 51 and she's dead and gone and I thank her each and every day for instilling things in me that my mother could never instill in me.
- JRJoe Rogan
That's great if you can get a good teacher. Uh, I have a few-
- PAMs. Pat
It's a lot of them out there.
- JRJoe Rogan
... good teachers that I remember that inspired me.
- PAMs. Pat
... and you know what's-
- GSGuest (unidentified, likely producer/companion in studio)
Yeah.
- PAMs. Pat
... so crazy with the shit going on in this world with these teachers? How, how just ... how you let these kids disrespect them and all of this bullshit going on-
- GSGuest (unidentified, likely producer/companion in studio)
Yeah.
- PAMs. Pat
... in these schools? Just the disrespect. Look at the girl who broke the teacher leg. Look at the teacher who just got into a fight. What the fuck?
- GSGuest (unidentified, likely producer/companion in studio)
Yeah.
- PAMs. Pat
They should... To me, they should hold p- parents accountable because I'm here to tell you, if my child ever tried that shit, I will beat the f- black off Ramon.
- GSGuest (unidentified, likely producer/companion in studio)
(laughs)
- PAMs. Pat
I will beat ... I'm not gonna side with you up there disrespecting no adult, and that's how it used to be when I was coming up. Everybody whooped your ass in the neighborhood. Now these kids like, "Oh, my God. You gotta respect me." Bitch, you don't even pay no bills. What the fuck am I respecting for somebody who don't even know how to pay a bill? These kids so dumb they don't even know how to fill out a check, Joe. They don't even have checks no more for you to fill out. I think my husband got the last book of checks in this world.
- GSGuest (unidentified, likely producer/companion in studio)
Yeah, they do it all electronically now, right?
- PAMs. Pat
Yeah. So, how ... Why am I respecting you when you don't pay for shit?
- GSGuest (unidentified, likely producer/companion in studio)
(laughs)
- PAMs. Pat
Huh?
- GSGuest (unidentified, likely producer/companion in studio)
Kids, uh, they ... There's a different feeling that kids have today.
- PAMs. Pat
No, it's a different-
- GSGuest (unidentified, likely producer/companion in studio)
Like, they feel like they know-
- PAMs. Pat
... feeling that society-
- GSGuest (unidentified, likely producer/companion in studio)
... society has for them.
- PAMs. Pat
... gave kids. You know, have you been abused? What's abuse? I, I tell you. So here, I got these custody of the kids, and they called me to ... They, th- the, the teacher called me, and I said, "Well, I'm gonna beat her ass." So the principal said, "You gotta hit it on them at home." I said, "Bitch, you don't tell me where to hit it at." Two hours later, DFAC was at my house.
- GSGuest (unidentified, likely producer/companion in studio)
Really?
- PAMs. Pat
Went to the school, talked to my kids, and the lady showed up and she was like ... She knew ... The Black lady knew who I was. She said, "Well, I gotta investigate." I said, "No, you ain't gotta do a motherfucking thing. You come get these motherfucking children that don't nobody give me nothing for. I'm gonna whoop these motherfucker ass over here. If you don't want their ass whooped, get them up out of here because I'm gonna tell you right now, ain't nobody shooting me. Ain't nobody whooping my motherfucking ass. Fuck that put you in the corner and we gonna pray about your behavior. I'm gonna knock your goddamn head off."
- GSGuest (unidentified, likely producer/companion in studio)
(laughs)
- PAMs. Pat
(laughs) I'm old school, and I don't give a fuck what you say. Ain't nobody ... I have a f- I have a 36-year-old daughter. I have a 35-year-old son, a 24-year, and a 20 ... You're not cursing in front of me. You're not disrespecting me. We're not getting high together. I'm not your motherfucking friend because I went too m- I went through too much in my life to be letting you motherfuckers talk to me. They ... I was telling my daughter, she said ass. I said, "Bitch, don't say ass in front of me. Don't say that shit in front of me." Why Mama ... Ass is cussing.
- GSGuest (unidentified, likely producer/companion in studio)
She can't cuss at all in front of you?
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