Joe Rogan Experience #1981 - Pauly Shore

Narrator 0:00 (drum roll) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out.

0:04 The Joe Rogan Experience.

Joe Rogan 0:06 Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. (energetic music) No, you're fine, dude.

Pauly Shore 0:13 It's okay. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 0:14 Come on, man. You don't have a tie... Burke crashes heads twice the size of yours-

Pauly Shore 0:16 Oh, my God.

Joe Rogan 0:16 ... he wears them.

Pauly Shore 0:17 Okay.

Joe Rogan 0:18 He can adjust it too, you poor little thing.

Pauly Shore 0:19 I feel like I'm going o- up to the mothership with these things.

Narrator 0:22 (singing)

Joe Rogan 0:23 Dude, you fucking killed at the mo- mothership.

Pauly Shore 0:25 Oh, yeah.

Joe Rogan 0:26 That was the funniest I've ever seen. You were so loose-

Pauly Shore 0:28 Mm.

Joe Rogan 0:28 ... and so silly.

Pauly Shore 0:29 Mm.

Joe Rogan 0:30 It was fun to see, man. It was... First of all, you could tell you were... you've been doing standup.

Pauly Shore 0:33 Mm.

Joe Rogan 0:33 You looked super comfortable.

Pauly Shore 0:34 Mm.

Joe Rogan 0:35 But you were, you were so loose.

Pauly Shore 0:37 Mm. It's, you know, it's... Standup, as you know, is a rhythm, you know? And you just kind of figure it out when you're on stage, and you never know what the fuck's gonna happen.

Joe Rogan 0:46 Yeah.

Pauly Shore 0:47 Yeah. You just, you... That night was just, um, you know, uh, David was nice enough to let me on his show. And, um, after I s- you know, put my finger under his boob sweat-

Joe Rogan 0:58 (laughs)

Pauly Shore 0:58 ... I went like this. I like to do that a lot.

Joe Rogan 1:00 (laughs)

Pauly Shore 1:01 And then he's got sweaty brows and I did like that, and it got me excited.

Joe Rogan 1:05 Pheromones.

Pauly Shore 1:05 Yeah, yeah. And then I, and then I went, and then I saw Montgomery and I f- he had his flip f- his hair over, and then I punched Hans in the stomach, and then I got on stage. It was all happening.

Joe Rogan 1:15 Perfect-

Pauly Shore 1:16 Yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:16 ... sequence of events.

Pauly Shore 1:17 Yeah. So, no, it's... You know, what you said up there, uh, it's, you know, it's in my veins. It's really in my veins. Like, just the second I walked in that room, I just felt this focus. And that's what I said to you, I just really feel like there's a focus there. And-

Joe Rogan 1:34 Well, that club was a rock and roll club.

Pauly Shore 1:37 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:37 I mean, that, that... You see the picture that's, uh, in the tunnel when you m- walk onto the stage?

Pauly Shore 1:42 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:43 When you see the big picture of Stevie Ray Vaughan?

Pauly Shore 1:44 Yes.

Joe Rogan 1:44 That's him performing-

Pauly Shore 1:45 Wow.

Joe Rogan 1:45 ... on that stage in 1983.

Pauly Shore 1:47 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:47 That's where it comes from.

Pauly Shore 1:48 That's the Ala- old Alamo Drafthouse.

Joe Rogan 1:50 It was only the Alamo Drafthouse from the two-

Pauly Shore 1:52 Ah.

Joe Rogan 1:52 I think it was like 2007 on.

Pauly Shore 1:54 Okay.

Joe Rogan 1:55 Before that it had been a bunch of things. It was a pool hall at one point in time.

Pauly Shore 1:58 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 1:58 It was a, a nudie movie theater at one point in time.

Pauly Shore 2:01 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 2:02 It was a punk rock club.

Pauly Shore 2:03 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 2:03 Like all the posters that you see that are in the green room-

Pauly Shore 2:06 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 2:06 ... that are in the... Those are all posters of people performing at the Ritz.

Pauly Shore 2:10 Mm.

Joe Rogan 2:10 It's all like the Misfits-

Pauly Shore 2:11 Oh, so it was the Ritz before the-

Joe Rogan 2:12 Yes.

Pauly Shore 2:13 ... before the Alamo.

Joe Rogan 2:14 Yes.

Pauly Shore 2:15 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 2:15 Oh, it's been the Ritz since 1927.

Pauly Shore 2:16 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 2:16 It has to stay the Ritz. No matter what it is that signed, the Ritz always exists because it's a historical landmark.

Pauly Shore 2:23 Right. Yeah. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 2:25 Yeah.

Pauly Shore 2:26 I know. (laughs) Well, it's just, the... What you gutted it out though, and you just... I mean, how, how much... I mean are you allowed to say how much money you spent on it?

Joe Rogan 2:33 Yeah. Well, I'm allowed to say it.

Pauly Shore 2:34 Oh, you don't say it?

Joe Rogan 2:35 I, I don't want... No.

Pauly Shore 2:36 Okay. Well, he spent a-

Joe Rogan 2:36 I don't like to.

Pauly Shore 2:36 ... he spent a lot, you spent a lot of money on it.

Joe Rogan 2:38 Yeah, yeah I did spend money.

Pauly Shore 2:39 And those two stages weren't-

Joe Rogan 2:40 You have to pay construction people. (laughs)

Pauly Shore 2:41 Yeah, no-

Joe Rogan 2:42 You need money.

Pauly Shore 2:43 ... I, I, I get it, but, but-

Joe Rogan 2:44 Yeah, they did a great job. It was... They fucking nailed it.

Pauly Shore 2:46 Were there two stages before, or are you s-

Joe Rogan 2:48 Yes, yes.

Pauly Shore 2:48 Oh, wow.

Joe Rogan 2:49 There was two. The-

Pauly Shore 2:49 Oh.

Joe Rogan 2:49 ... they had converted it, when they converted it to the movie theater, I think that's when they turned it into two rooms.

Pauly Shore 2:55 Huh.

Joe Rogan 2:55 Yeah. I don't know how they did it, uh, but we have the same architect fortunately, so-

Pauly Shore 2:59 Oh.

Joe Rogan 2:59 ... he knew exactly all the bones of the building.

Pauly Shore 3:01 The beams and all that stuff?

Joe Rogan 3:02 Yeah, yeah, all that stuff, where the electrical's and the plumbing's been.

Pauly Shore 3:04 Yeah, so, you know, there's this thing that's happening, you know, and obviously I've been in it my whole life, you know, since I was four.

Joe Rogan 3:13 Yeah.

Pauly Shore 3:14 And, you know, and it's, I'm... You know, first of all, I'm so proud of you, you know-

Joe Rogan 3:19 Thank you.

Pauly Shore 3:19 ... I have... I, I see you sometimes and I... we give each other hugs. I say, "I love you." And, but I don't get to say how proud I am of you. I've seen you my whole, you know, for years and, and, um, you know, on behalf of my mom too, you know, because, um, I know how much you love her, and I know how much she means to you, and I know how far you've come. I know how far you've come 'cause I remember when you first stepped at the store. And I remember seeing you in Boston. And I remember... 'Cause we're the same age and we came up at the same time.

Joe Rogan 3:54 Yeah.

Pauly Shore 3:54 And I'm so proud of you, dude. And when I saw you on that-

Joe Rogan 3:57 Thank- that's very nice man, thank you.

Pauly Shore 3:57 ... when I saw you on that stage at MGM, when you worked with Chappelle, I was like, "This guy's fucking funny." You know, like really funny, dude. And I'm not just saying that because, you know, you've become this, you know, this, this massive business and you're just this... I'm saying that from comic to comic, I'm really proud of you.

Joe Rogan 4:18 Thank you very much.

Pauly Shore 4:19 And, and-

Joe Rogan 4:19 Appreciate it man.

Pauly Shore 4:20 Yeah, and, um, you're funny, dude.

Joe Rogan 4:23 (laughs)

Pauly Shore 4:23 You know? Well, no, for real.

Joe Rogan 4:25 Okay.

Pauly Shore 4:25 Because I've seen it all. I've seen, I've seen the best, you know?

Joe Rogan 4:28 Thank you very much.

Pauly Shore 4:28 I see, I see you on stage, I see Kennison. You know, I, I've seen Kennison, I've seen Pryor, I've seen Eddie. I've seen all these guys at their best. And then when I saw you at MGM I'm like, "Fuck dude, you're really like in the pocket."

Joe Rogan 4:42 Thank you.

Pauly Shore 4:42 "You're not pushing it." You know what I mean?

Joe Rogan 4:44 Whoo.

Pauly Shore 4:44 And it's great.

Joe Rogan 4:45 Been doing a lot of sets. And moving out to here-

Pauly Shore 4:48 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 4:48 ... it, it kind of changed everything-

Pauly Shore 4:49 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 4:49 ... because I... first of all, I realized how important the store was.

Pauly Shore 4:52 Mm.

Joe Rogan 4:53 Like, I knew I was gonna live out here, but that, uh, having a community-

Pauly Shore 4:57 Mm.

Joe Rogan 4:57 ... and having a place where you get to see people do sets all the time, and you w- you work with killers, like all the time... On the road, the thing is you don't really work with other people that much. You work with the two people that you bring with you or one person they bring with you, and you're not like g- in the mix-

Pauly Shore 5:13 Mm.

Joe Rogan 5:14 ... with all the killers. And I think that that's very critical to what we do.

Pauly Shore 5:18 Well, that's what you've done out here, you know, seeing-

Joe Rogan 5:20 Yeah, that was, that was the thing to do. It was like the thing to do. It was like it w- there were so many comics that had decided to move here-

Pauly Shore 5:26 Mm.

Joe Rogan 5:26 ... and a lot of them knew that I, uh, I tried to do it at another place and it didn't work out. And so that was like a big delay-

Pauly Shore 5:34 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 5:34 ... that, that took like an extra year.

Pauly Shore 5:36 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 5:36 It took a long ass time.

Pauly Shore 5:39 Yeah, I mean, um, Hans, Montgomery, David Lucas, these, these... you know, working with Tony and just seeing these guys grow and now they're fucking headlining shows.

Joe Rogan 5:49 Yeah.

Pauly Shore 5:49 I mean it's fucking, it's dope.

Joe Rogan 5:50 Derek Poston.

Pauly Shore 5:51 D- Derek-

Joe Rogan 5:52 You've seen Derek-

Pauly Shore 5:52 ... Derrick-

Joe Rogan 5:52 ... and Hasan Ahmad.

Pauly Shore 5:53 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 5:53 Those guys are killing it.

Pauly Shore 5:53 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 5:54 They're so much tighter and they're doing so many sets. 'Cause we're doing two shows a night in both rooms, so there's two shows in each room.... the other night. So they- they're getting all the stage time. There's open mic nights two nights a week, just like the store.

Pauly Shore 6:07 Yeah. I tal- I talked to Lucas at the store, who, you know, works at the bar, and I'm like, "Dude, you gotta just move out to Austin, 'cause this is happening out here."

Joe Rogan 6:15 Lucas Earl?

Pauly Shore 6:16 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 6:16 He's a funny dude.

Pauly Shore 6:17 Yeah, he's very funny. And he's a nice guy, and he cares.

Joe Rogan 6:20 Yeah.

Pauly Shore 6:20 And- and- and, you know, like you just said, your guys are becoming monsters on stage, and a lot of it has to do with, you know, the platform that you gave them, you know? And I love the fact that you, um, you put the phones in the purses. You know, they put the phones in the-

Joe Rogan 6:37 Yonder bags.

Pauly Shore 6:38 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 6:38 Yeah.

Pauly Shore 6:38 It's fucking- I think every comedy club should do that. That is a dar- a definite sense of freedom. Um, you know.

Joe Rogan 6:44 Yeah, there's that too, and it also keeps people from being distracted. Like people are just so addicted to their fucking phones.

Pauly Shore 6:50 Oh, my God. I know.

Joe Rogan 6:50 It makes the show better.

Pauly Shore 6:51 I wanna put my yon- I wanted to put this in a yonder here, and it's already- it's off. I still wanna-

Joe Rogan 6:56 (laughs)

Pauly Shore 6:56 ... just wanna fucking throw it sometimes.

Joe Rogan 6:57 One of the things I've learned from doing this podcast (clears throat) is that it's really the only time during the day where I get to sit for a few hours and not look at my phone.

Pauly Shore 7:07 Mm. Yeah.

Joe Rogan 7:08 Where I'm not- I'm always just checking my email, checking my text message, responding to text message I haven't responded to yet, trying to keep up with email.

Pauly Shore 7:15 Yeah. Yeah, I just did-

Joe Rogan 7:17 It's like- it's-

Pauly Shore 7:17 Yeah, I-

Joe Rogan 7:17 ... overwhelming.

Pauly Shore 7:18 Yeah, I just did a five-day pretty intense group therapy that I've been involved with since I was 19 years old, and, uh, deals with a lot of, um, trauma, different things like that. And I'm actually a- a staff that kinda help people out with the stuff they- they go through. In- in- in return, when you help people out, you get help too.

Joe Rogan 7:38 Mm.

Pauly Shore 7:38 Like for instance, for me, um, you know, I've been doing it since I was 19. Um, and it's a five-day program, and it just helped me deal with the trauma, you know, my parents- my parents passing and, um, you know, just different things that have happened personally in my life. Because, you know, um, I know when I was on here last time, I was talking about the career and this and that, and all these different things. And, you know, a lot of those things that, you know, happen to us as people and people listening aren't who we are. It's kinda w- it's- it's circumst- things that have happened to us that we become angry or become sad, or we become depressed. But it's not who we are, because who we are are- are we start off with i- as innocent babies. You know, we go into the world and all these fucked up things kind of happen to us. And, you know, the- the- the stuff with my family and the store and my mom, you know, I- I'm not just a whatever guy. I'm not Donald Trump. You know what I mean? Even though probably underneath it, he's probably fucked up. But I don't ha-

Joe Rogan 8:36 (laughs)

Pauly Shore 8:37 But, you know, but as far as being-

Joe Rogan 8:38 You're the turtle shell. Yeah.

Pauly Shore 8:39 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 8:39 Yeah.

Pauly Shore 8:39 I have this emotion, I got that from my mom and my dad. Um, and, um, and it's hard.

Joe Rogan 8:45 Yeah.

Pauly Shore 8:45 You know what I mean? It's hard. Um, but so I'm- I'm- I'm- I feel pretty good, and, um, man, it's- it's difficult. But, you know, I wanna look- I wanna look into the future my next 30 years, and I just wanna try to be joyful. And, you know, and- and m- my thing is ha- half full. You know, a lot of us in life, we always look at other people, and we're always like going, you know, oh, like I can look at Adam Sandler. I can look at all these guys that are just, you know... Or I can, you know, look at the fact of what I have.

Joe Rogan 9:16 Yeah.

Pauly Shore 9:16 You know?

Joe Rogan 9:16 Yeah.

Pauly Shore 9:17 And- and it's- and- and I'm not the only one. I think everyone should, you know, think about that, because especially like you said, with social media, everyone compares themself, how many people are watching-

Joe Rogan 9:29 Right.

Pauly Shore 9:29 ... how many people like us and all that shit. And it's just-

Joe Rogan 9:32 Yeah, that's so fucked up for kids, 'cause they're- they're just constantly comparing each other's likes and, you know, who, you know, who's got more followers, and they're all competing against each other. Then you- then- then you hear about these kids-

Pauly Shore 9:45 Mm.

Joe Rogan 9:45 ... that are like YouTube stars, that are 14, 15 years old.

Pauly Shore 9:48 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 9:48 And they've got millions of followers. Like what's the youngest YouTube star that has like a giant following? Those kids are essentially getting like-

Pauly Shore 9:57 In a TikTok.

Narrator 9:57 They opened the toys. He's probably, what was he like seven, and he had like-

Joe Rogan 10:00 Oh yeah, that guy. Oh my God.

Narrator 10:01 Maybe he's 10 now.

Joe Rogan 10:02 Yeah, he's- that guy- that's insane. That little kid probably can't go anywhere. Imagine him trying to go to the park. All the little kids will probably freak out. Where's the toys, bitch? (laughs)

Pauly Shore 10:10 What if- what about-

Narrator 10:10 What'd you do with the extra toys?

Pauly Shore 10:11 Yeah. But what about- what about you? I mean, you're- you're- you've really like, I mean, you've, I mean, you know, I've seen it. Everyone has seen it. You've just really... I mean, you've- how do people- how do people get to you? It's difficult, right?

Joe Rogan 10:26 (laughs)

Pauly Shore 10:26 No, but you know what I'm saying?

Narrator 10:27 Yeah, yeah.

Pauly Shore 10:27 Like how do you... Like for instance, like you don't have a booker on this show.

Joe Rogan 10:31 Well, I do. But- but-

Pauly Shore 10:33 Oh, you do?

Joe Rogan 10:33 ... I don't, like, I choose.

Pauly Shore 10:36 Yeah, you're the booker, right?

Joe Rogan 10:36 Yeah. But it's not like someone like picks the line up-

Pauly Shore 10:40 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 10:40 ... and then I go over it with them. No.

Pauly Shore 10:42 So like for instance, like Nicolas Cage is my next-door neighbor in Las Vegas. Like he's a friend. I've known him for many years. Like how would he get to you if he wanted to be on the show?

Joe Rogan 10:51 Oh, love to have him on. I love that guy.

Pauly Shore 10:53 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 10:53 He's awesome.

Pauly Shore 10:54 He's like-

Joe Rogan 10:54 I saw a video they did about his house in Vegas with this lady.

Pauly Shore 10:57 Oh yeah, 60 Minutes, right?

Joe Rogan 10:58 Yeah, yeah.

Pauly Shore 10:59 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 10:59 Yeah, yeah. He's awesome. I love that guy. I met him once a long time ago at a boxing gym.

Pauly Shore 11:04 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 11:04 He was there with his son.

Pauly Shore 11:05 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 11:05 His son was taking lessons at this, uh, boxing gym-

Pauly Shore 11:09 Right.

Joe Rogan 11:09 ... that I used to work out in Hollywood.

Pauly Shore 11:11 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 11:11 Super nice guy.

Pauly Shore 11:13 So for-

Joe Rogan 11:13 But it's- but it was a weird one, you know. It was like, "Whoa, that's Nicolas Cage just hanging out in a boxing gym with his kid."

Pauly Shore 11:17 So- so how do people like that get to you to get on this show?

Joe Rogan 11:21 Like this.

Pauly Shore 11:21 Just like this.

Joe Rogan 11:22 Like this.

Pauly Shore 11:22 Okay, cool.

Joe Rogan 11:23 He- he texts you, you text me, "Hey, what's up?"

Pauly Shore 11:25 Okay. Right, right. That'd be great.

Joe Rogan 11:26 "Nice to meet you."

Pauly Shore 11:27 He would be great on your show.

Joe Rogan 11:28 Yeah, yeah. He'd be awesome.

Pauly Shore 11:29 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 11:29 He's a fun dude.

Pauly Shore 11:29 He's fucking... I mean...

Joe Rogan 11:31 Th- what, that Nicolas Cage movie? What was it?

Pauly Shore 11:33 Right. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 11:34 What was it? What was the act- I don't wanna fuck the title up, but him and Pedro Pascal? Oh my God, that movie's good.

Pauly Shore 11:39 Yeah. He's, uh...

Joe Rogan 11:40 He's fantastic.

Narrator 11:40 He's the unbearable weight of massive talent.

Pauly Shore 11:42 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 11:43 (laughs)

Pauly Shore 11:43 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 11:43 So good.

Pauly Shore 11:43 'Cause I see, 'cause Marc Maron I see at the store all the time, and, uh, and he's always like, you know, "Uh, uh, your Nick- Nicolas Cage, your next-door neighbor. You know, I want on- to hear the podcast." And I'm like, and I text Nick. I'm like, "Yo, my friend Marc Maron wants to be on- on your pod- on the podcast." And he didn't text me back.

Joe Rogan 12:00 (laughs)

Pauly Shore 12:01 Yeah. (instrumental music) So, I mean-

Joe Rogan 12:04 (laughs)

Pauly Shore 12:04 ... not to dismark, man. I don't, I don't know, maybe he was just too busy because he's going-

Joe Rogan 12:08 Maybe he went on a retreat.

Pauly Shore 12:09 The what?

Joe Rogan 12:10 A retreat. Maybe he put his phone down for a week.

Pauly Shore 12:12 Yeah, he put it-

Joe Rogan 12:13 He did one of those things.

Pauly Shore 12:14 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 12:14 Could be.

Pauly Shore 12:15 So, um-

Joe Rogan 12:16 You know?

Pauly Shore 12:16 Yeah, so I think he would be great on this, so-

Joe Rogan 12:18 I would definitely have him on.

Pauly Shore 12:18 ... if I know any people that I think that, that you would like, I'll, I'll-

Joe Rogan 12:21 Yeah, definitely, please do.

Pauly Shore 12:23 ... pass them to you. Yeah. So, um, yeah.

Joe Rogan 12:25 It's a, it's a weird thing to, you know, have, like, this sort of a show.

Pauly Shore 12:30 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 12:30 But I gotta keep doing it the way I've always done it.

Pauly Shore 12:33 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 12:33 This is the way I've always done it.

Pauly Shore 12:34 This is when you started in the basement with Red Band, right?

Joe Rogan 12:37 Well, we were in a, a... We were-

Pauly Shore 12:38 You were on your couch, right?

Joe Rogan 12:40 We started on my couch, and then we moved to, uh... I had a spare bedroom that I'd converted into an office.

Pauly Shore 12:45 Uh-huh.

Joe Rogan 12:45 So then we converted my office into the podcast studio.

Pauly Shore 12:48 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 12:49 So it was s- half my office, half of it was the podcast studio. It was, like, so rudimentary.

Pauly Shore 12:54 It was so... Dude, it was so, like, what Wayne and Garth, you know? Right? Just, like, in the basement.

Joe Rogan 12:59 It was... You know when it was? It was the response to... I always wanted... I loved the hang of being on those morning talk shows, but I knew that nobody would ever give me one.

Pauly Shore 13:09 Hmm.

Joe Rogan 13:09 And I probably wasn't good at it anyway. Like-

Pauly Shore 13:11 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 13:11 ... podcasting is like anything else, I think. I think you get better at it the more you do it. If you go back and listen to my early ones, I was terrible.

Pauly Shore 13:17 Hmm.

Joe Rogan 13:17 Just, you get better at it. And I think that what we missed was, like, the Opie and Anthony hang. You do the Opie and Anthony Show, it was a bunch of comics just sitting around talking shit about things. It was so fun.

Pauly Shore 13:29 So do you ever prepare for your, for your interviews?

Joe Rogan 13:32 Oh, yeah, for sure.

Pauly Shore 13:32 Oh, really?

Joe Rogan 13:33 Yeah, depending upon who they are.

Pauly Shore 13:34 Right, so did you prepare for this? (laughs)

Joe Rogan 13:36 No. No, you're my friend.

Pauly Shore 13:38 He's like, "Fuck that guy."

Joe Rogan 13:38 (laughs) I don't have to prepare for you.

Pauly Shore 13:39 This is gonna be fun.

Joe Rogan 13:40 No, like, I have to prepare for things like-

Pauly Shore 13:42 Oh, like scientists and things like that?

Joe Rogan 13:44 Yeah, like if, if someone's coming on to discuss, uh, something really crazy, like I, I, I really have to pay attention to what the questions are that I can ask.

Pauly Shore 13:52 Right.

Joe Rogan 13:52 Like we had, uh, Michio Kaku was on yesterday.

Pauly Shore 13:54 Michio Kaku!

Joe Rogan 13:56 Do you know who he is?

Pauly Shore 13:57 I heard about him. He, he's the scientist, right?

Joe Rogan 13:59 Yes.

Pauly Shore 14:00 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 14:00 He's a quantum physicist, and he was on discussing quantum computing and it's so above my-

Pauly Shore 14:06 I came in opening my laptop, so...

Joe Rogan 14:07 (laughs) It's so above my head.

Pauly Shore 14:09 Yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 14:09 It's so above my head. It's so hard to... He's like... H- he's, he's so smart. It's like, he's like hanging out with toddlers, you know? Like, what he used-

Pauly Shore 14:18 Hmm.

Joe Rogan 14:18 ... to... When he was 17 years old, he made a particle collider in his garage.

Pauly Shore 14:23 Hmm. I don't know what a particle collider is.

Joe Rogan 14:26 It's miles and miles of copper tubing, and it sends something through it, and he photographed antimatter in his garage with this device.

Pauly Shore 14:34 Hmm.

Joe Rogan 14:35 I- when he was 17.

Pauly Shore 14:36 Wow.

Joe Rogan 14:37 Like, that's a different kind of human, you know? 17, you were hanging out at the store. 17, I was in Newton, Massachusetts-

Pauly Shore 14:43 Hmm.

Joe Rogan 14:43 ... like, being a moron. (laughs)

Pauly Shore 14:45 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 14:45 Like, this guy was making a particle collider in his basement.

Pauly Shore 14:48 Wow. Wow.

Joe Rogan 14:48 Or in his garage.

Pauly Shore 14:49 Wow.

Joe Rogan 14:50 It's crazy. There's people that are just... They're so much sm- smarter than you in, in different ways, right?

Pauly Shore 14:56 Hmm.

Joe Rogan 14:56 Like, I don't think he probably wouldn't be a great comic, but there's so, there's so-

Pauly Shore 14:59 So you had to do a little research for-

Joe Rogan 15:01 Yeah.

Pauly Shore 15:01 ... Mi- what's it called? Michio Kaku.

Joe Rogan 15:03 Michio Kaku. Michio Kaku.

Pauly Shore 15:04 Michio Kaku.

Joe Rogan 15:05 Um, but some even more than that. Like, it depends on, you know, whatever the subject is. Like-

Pauly Shore 15:09 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 15:10 ... some, some people I want to read their book first-

Pauly Shore 15:12 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 15:12 ... and then have them on to have questions.

Pauly Shore 15:15 Yeah, and then as far as, um, as far as living out here now, um, being in, um, in Austin. Austin is very... I don't wanna s- use the word liberal, but there's a lot of hipsters and people with skinny jeans.

Joe Rogan 15:29 Yeah.

Pauly Shore 15:29 And that stuff.

Joe Rogan 15:30 It's a-

Pauly Shore 15:30 Is it weird being... 'Cause I don't wanna say you're red or you're not red 'cause I don't fucking know.

Joe Rogan 15:35 (laughs)

Pauly Shore 15:35 Most people think you're red.

Joe Rogan 15:36 Yeah.

Pauly Shore 15:36 Is it like you're, you're r- wait. You're red living in a blue city in a red state.

Joe Rogan 15:43 Th- that is, uh, this is a blue city.

Pauly Shore 15:45 Incorrect.

Joe Rogan 15:45 But I'm not really red.

Pauly Shore 15:46 That's what I don't think either.

Joe Rogan 15:48 I'm just... No, no.

Pauly Shore 15:48 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 15:49 I've, I've never voted Republican in my life.

Pauly Shore 15:51 Right.

Joe Rogan 15:51 Yeah, I think that the both systems suck, and I think, um, that what, what I'm pushing back against is the crazy ideologies. It has nothing to do with universal basic income. It has nothing to do with welfare. It has nothing to do with, um, funding community programs and cleaning up cities. Like, I'm all for all that stuff. I'm even for higher taxes if I believe the government was competent with your money.

Pauly Shore 16:15 Hmm.

Joe Rogan 16:16 And it's not... I'm not.

Pauly Shore 16:17 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 16:18 Like, uh, higher... If, if, if it's higher taxes and it, and it proves that we have less crime and the world's a safer place, that would be great. But that doesn't seem like they know how to do that. It doe-... What it seems like when you give a lot of money to the government, they create a lot of government jobs, and those government jobs make those people a lot of money. When we looked into the, the homeless sis- uh, situation in LA.

Pauly Shore 16:38 Hmm.

Joe Rogan 16:38 And it's... My, my friend, Kolian Noir told me about this because he's a lawyer, and he went to San Francisco. When he was in San Francisco, he was talking to someone. He's like, "Why haven't they fixed the homeless thing? Is it, like, a funding issue?" And the guy was like, "No, it's the opposite."

Pauly Shore 16:52 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 16:52 "They make so much money." The people that are m- w- in charge of dealing with the homeless situation, some of them are making more than $200,000 a year.

Pauly Shore 16:59 Hmm.

Joe Rogan 17:00 Like, $240,000 a year, and the homeless thing just keeps getting worse.

Pauly Shore 17:03 So what do you... What do you think it is?

Joe Rogan 17:05 It's a-

Pauly Shore 17:05 Your, your opinion.

Joe Rogan 17:06 It's mental health.

Pauly Shore 17:07 Mental health, yeah.

Joe Rogan 17:07 It's, it's people that are dr- a- addicted to drugs.

Pauly Shore 17:10 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 17:10 People... There's a lot of soldiers.

Pauly Shore 17:12 Sadness.

Joe Rogan 17:12 Unfortunately.

Pauly Shore 17:13 Yes.

Joe Rogan 17:13 There's a lot of vets-

Pauly Shore 17:14 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 17:14 ... that came back, and their experiences were very traumatic for them, and they never recovered, and they, th- maybe they got on drugs as well. There's a lot of people with mental illness.

Pauly Shore 17:22 They need group therapy.

Joe Rogan 17:23 You know, it all started during, during the Reagan administration-

Pauly Shore 17:26 Hmm.

Joe Rogan 17:26 ... I believe. Check if this is true. I think during the Reagan administration, they changed what, like, they can do in terms of, like, mental health institutes. They decided to, like, let people out.

Pauly Shore 17:38 Hmm.

Joe Rogan 17:39 Instead of... Like, there's certain people that just... They have to be cared for, you know?

Pauly Shore 17:43 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 17:43 They're so compromised that in a, a, a good, just society-

Pauly Shore 17:48 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 17:48 ... you would care for those people, and there would be a dedicated place, just like there's a dedicated piece- place for people who have bad knees.

Pauly Shore 17:55 Hmm.

Joe Rogan 17:55 You go and you get surgery.

Pauly Shore 17:56 Hmm.

Joe Rogan 17:56 You know, they don't go, "F- fucking walk it off, pussy."

Pauly Shore 17:59 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 17:59 "Hobble around."

Pauly Shore 18:00 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 18:00 No, they, they have a place that's dedicated.

Pauly Shore 18:02 Yeah. No, it's similar to AA, right?

Joe Rogan 18:05 Hmm.

Pauly Shore 18:05 I mean, AA is pretty much a, a place, you know, for... We all have friends that are in AA.

Joe Rogan 18:11 Mm-hmm.

Pauly Shore 18:11 And they go there, and they ha- they have... What is it, the 10-step rules? Uh-

Joe Rogan 18:14 12. Yeah, 12 steps.

Pauly Shore 18:15 Or 12 steps how... What not-

Joe Rogan 18:16 Yeah.

Pauly Shore 18:16 ... to do when you physically walk in a bar.

Joe Rogan 18:18 So here it is. 1981, President Ronald Reagan, who had made major efforts during his governorship, governorship to reduce funding and en- enlistment for California mental institutions.... pushed a political effort through the US Congress to repeal most of MHSA. The MHSA was considered landmark legislation in mental health care policy. So, I think what happened was when that MHSA Act got passed in 1980, what, what happened was they just started letting people out in the streets.

Pauly Shore 18:49 Mm.

Joe Rogan 18:50 When I was a boy, I remember-

Pauly Shore 18:53 Mm.

Joe Rogan 18:53 ... a marked increase in homeless people in Boston-

Pauly Shore 18:57 Mm.

Joe Rogan 18:57 ... when this happened.

Pauly Shore 18:58 Mm.

Joe Rogan 18:59 And I remember people talking about it, and they're like, "Yeah, they're just letting them on the street now." Like, it's not ca- that's not caring for someone.

Pauly Shore 19:06 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 19:06 That's not being kind. That's insane. And, and you would see people just having screaming matches with themselves. Like, they're clearly mentally ill and clearly not on medication.

Pauly Shore 19:15 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 19:16 Just screaming at people that aren't there and-

Pauly Shore 19:18 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 19:18 ... fighting demons and shit.

Pauly Shore 19:19 No, you see it on the streets. So if you were President in a serious, serious... 'cause obviously you could probably run and probably win if you wanted to. I know you don't want to.

Joe Rogan 19:28 Dude, I'm, I'm not running for anything.

Pauly Shore 19:30 (laughs) I know, but I'm just saying if you decided and you, and your, and you, and one of your, um, one of your, uh, uh, uh, arms was mental health, and that was... What would you do if you were talking to, say, Tony, Tony Hinchcliffe was in charge of the mental health, what would you tell him to do?

Joe Rogan 19:45 That's the last person I'd put in charge. He'd have them all killed.

Pauly Shore 19:48 That's true.

Joe Rogan 19:49 (laughs) So if... Tony Hinchcliffe would tell them, "Hey guys, keep backing up. We're gonna take a picture."

Pauly Shore 19:53 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 19:53 From the edge of a fucking cliff.

Pauly Shore 19:55 So-

Joe Rogan 19:56 (laughs)

Pauly Shore 19:56 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 19:57 Tony Hinchcliffe's ruthless.

Pauly Shore 19:58 So what would you, what would you say to them?

Joe Rogan 20:00 Uh, it wouldn't be me, but if somebody was President, if they were gonna fix this, what they would do is reinstitute something like that, change, change what that was and go back not just to the old way but even better.

Pauly Shore 20:13 Mm.

Joe Rogan 20:13 Go back to a way where if you have someone who's mentally compromised, you know that they're gonna be cared for and we would be willing to pay for that in taxes.

Pauly Shore 20:21 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 20:21 I'm sure we would.

Pauly Shore 20:22 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 20:22 I'm sure we would. If, if they knocked homelessness down to like a tiny, tiny fraction of what it is now and our tax dollars paid for mental health institut- institutes-

Pauly Shore 20:31 Mm.

Joe Rogan 20:32 ... who knows if that wasn't-

Pauly Shore 20:33 Mm.

Joe Rogan 20:33 ... like more profitable for the overall society?

Pauly Shore 20:36 Mm.

Joe Rogan 20:36 It probably would be.

Pauly Shore 20:37 Mm.

Joe Rogan 20:37 It would probably be more profitable if there was less break-ins, less crime, less people having overdoses in the streets, l- you know, less assaults, less... I mean, who knows what horrific things go on in those encampments? Y- they basically... There's like, these chaos shantytowns in the middle of one of the biggest cities in the greatest country in the world.

Pauly Shore 20:59 Mm.

Joe Rogan 20:59 And everyone's just tolerating it.

Pauly Shore 21:01 Mm.

Joe Rogan 21:01 But meanwhile, if you jaywalk on Sunset, they'll fucking arrest you. (laughs)

Pauly Shore 21:05 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 21:05 Like, it's... Or at least they used to before.

Pauly Shore 21:07 So, so back to the AA situation, because my father, Sammy, Sammy Schorr, rest in peace, he was an alcoholic so he had to drink. So it wasn't like one drink and then... but he had to keep going. So that's what he did, is he st- he, uh, he had to stop and then go to AA. So do you think there's something like that for, for people for mental health besides AA with all the... 'cause there's some people that are addicted to pills or, or s- you know what I mean?

Joe Rogan 21:34 Well, I think, uh-

Pauly Shore 21:35 'Cause-

Joe Rogan 21:35 ... if anything, we should open up all possible options and make them legal, and that would include psychedelic therapies. 'Cause I know personally many people-

Pauly Shore 21:44 Mm.

Joe Rogan 21:44 ... who have done ibogaine. Ibogaine is not a fun one apparently. I haven't experienced it myself but it's a 24-hour-

Pauly Shore 21:52 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 21:52 ... experience that just rips you down to the core of your being and explains to you in some strange way all the different moments in your life that have shaped you.

Pauly Shore 22:02 Mm.

Joe Rogan 22:03 And all the different things that have become a problem. People quit cigarettes (snaps fingers) like that after they do. They quit heroin (snaps fingers) like that. It also does something strange-

Pauly Shore 22:11 Mm.

Joe Rogan 22:11 ... to remap the mind.

Pauly Shore 22:12 Can you put up... Was it ibocent? What is it?

Joe Rogan 22:14 Ibo- ibogaine.

Pauly Shore 22:15 Can you put that up-

Joe Rogan 22:16 Ibogaine.

Pauly Shore 22:16 ... so we can just stare at it for a sec? Ibogaine.

Joe Rogan 22:18 It's ibogaine, ibogaine. Yeah, and, uh, it comes from the iboga tree.

Pauly Shore 22:21 Mm.

Joe Rogan 22:21 I think it's, uh-

Pauly Shore 22:22 Is it, is it part of the-

Joe Rogan 22:23 It's from Africa.

Pauly Shore 22:23 Is it part of the ayahuasca thing or-

Joe Rogan 22:25 No, it's different. It's a different-

Pauly Shore 22:27 Huh.

Joe Rogan 22:27 ... different type of psychedelic.

Pauly Shore 22:28 And you think if you take that or if there's been studies, if you take that, then you can get rid of-

Joe Rogan 22:33 Yes.

Pauly Shore 22:33 ... these things?

Joe Rogan 22:34 Yeah. Many, many, many people have gone-

Pauly Shore 22:36 Well, then, then-

Joe Rogan 22:37 ... and sought ibogaine therapy to get rid of pills-

Pauly Shore 22:39 So then-

Joe Rogan 22:39 ... addiction to pills.

Pauly Shore 22:40 So then if you were President, which you're not, but you would tell your, your, your, your, your, your guy to, say, "Go get some ibogaine," and give it-

Joe Rogan 22:47 What I would say to anybody who-

Pauly Shore 22:48 ... for the people, the people in jail or something?

Joe Rogan 22:50 What I would say to anybody who was gonna be president, like maybe a Tulsi Gabbard, that would be something to do.

Pauly Shore 22:55 Mm.

Joe Rogan 22:55 If we could institute ibogaine institu- uh, if, if we had ibogaine centers in this country where people could go and have these experiences, I think we could create better people.

Pauly Shore 23:05 Wow.

Joe Rogan 23:05 We'd have less people that are addicted to pills.

Pauly Shore 23:07 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 23:07 I mean, is it gonna be a one size fits all for every... No.

Pauly Shore 23:11 Mm.

Joe Rogan 23:11 Nothing is. Not... Therapy isn't. Psychedelics aren't. You know, exercise isn't.

Pauly Shore 23:17 Mm.

Joe Rogan 23:17 There's not a one size fits all for anybody to fix your life. But if there's anything-

Pauly Shore 23:21 Mm.

Joe Rogan 23:21 ... that has been shown to be very effective, I think we should explore that.

Pauly Shore 23:24 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 23:24 And if one of those things is illegal-

Pauly Shore 23:26 Mm.

Joe Rogan 23:26 ... that doesn't make any fucking sense.

Pauly Shore 23:27 Right.

Joe Rogan 23:28 And one of those things that is illegal-

Pauly Shore 23:29 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 23:29 ... is ibogaine.

Pauly Shore 23:30 Yeah. My mom, um, when she started to get sick with, uh, Parkinson's, we took her to, uh, to, um... It was at the Bahamas and she got, uh, fetal cells injected in her. Uh-

Joe Rogan 23:42 Yeah.

Pauly Shore 23:42 And that was something that she was, um, you know, she was, uh, very sh- she believed very strongly that, you know, putting ba- she was like, "Put some baby cells in me."

Joe Rogan 23:52 (laughs)

Pauly Shore 23:53 (laughs) You know, "Put s- put some fetu-" Dude, it was fucking insane.

Joe Rogan 23:56 Ugh.

Pauly Shore 23:56 It was like me and Bob Wheeler, The Comedy Store, uh, accountant over there, we flew down to the Bahamas 'cause you couldn't do it here.

Joe Rogan 24:03 Where did they get the baby tissue?

Pauly Shore 24:05 I don't know, dude. It was... We, but we... I remember it like it was yesterday. So we drove in a... You know, the, the, the doctor and my mom paid like 20 grand or 10 or 15, whatever it was.

Joe Rogan 24:15 Right.

Pauly Shore 24:15 And they... You know, within that y- the package deal is, is the, the, the flight, the hotel, and then the baby fetuses.

Joe Rogan 24:22 (laughs)

Pauly Shore 24:24 So, um, we went down there-

Joe Rogan 24:26 Oh, my God.

Pauly Shore 24:26 ... and, um, and a car picked us up. It had a sign, Mitzi Shore. And, uh, and, and w- we went in there and we went, and then we drove her the next morning, and we put her in a room with a doctor, and they injected her with fetal cells. But I personally... 'cause she had Parkinson's for a while. I personally think it actually helped her. You know, I think it prolonged... You know, because if you put the, the, the, the, um, the baby cells in there, they're obviously baby cells.

Joe Rogan 24:51 (laughs)

Pauly Shore 24:51 Sh- Why is that so funny? You don't-

Joe Rogan 24:53 It's just so fucked up to think of. But that, uh, uh...

Pauly Shore 24:57 She did it a couple times.

Joe Rogan 24:58 They, there has... They've been shown with stem cells, just, uh, all kinds of stem cells, that, um, there's-

Pauly Shore 25:03 Put the baby in me. What are you doing? Put it... Stop fucking around.

Joe Rogan 25:07 Is that what she said?

Pauly Shore 25:07 Put it in me. Let's go.

Joe Rogan 25:10 (laughs)

Pauly Shore 25:10 You know what I mean?

Joe Rogan 25:11 That's such your mom.

Pauly Shore 25:12 It's so funny.

Joe Rogan 25:13 Oh, your mom was the best.

Pauly Shore 25:15 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 25:15 I tell everybody that your mom was the number one-

Pauly Shore 25:17 She was so funny, dude.

Joe Rogan 25:18 ... number one most important person in comedy that wasn't a comedian.

Pauly Shore 25:21 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 25:22 Your mom, 100%.

Pauly Shore 25:23 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 25:24 She was number one. So, so, so fucking-

Pauly Shore 25:27 Yeah, everything, yeah, everything lined up.

Joe Rogan 25:28 Yeah. I... Th- they don't use baby cells anymore. But the baby thing, what, well, maybe they do.

Narrator 25:34 What am I saying?

Pauly Shore 25:34 What are you talking about?

Narrator 25:35 Maybe they do in some places.

Pauly Shore 25:35 They're great. They really prolonged my life.

Joe Rogan 25:38 But that, that is the reason why it took so long for stem cells to get, um, use and, and funding in, in, in America. Because the people, especially people on the right-

Pauly Shore 25:48 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 25:49 ... thought that stem cells had to be, like, aborted fetuses. Like, we c-

Pauly Shore 25:52 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 25:52 Everyone connected it.

Pauly Shore 25:53 You mean they're not?

Joe Rogan 25:54 Yeah.

Pauly Shore 25:55 What's going on?

Joe Rogan 25:56 So, I remember when the really religious right-wing people were talking about that. I was like, "Oh, no," like, "This is crazy. They're, they're killing babies for stem cells?" And then when I looked into it, I was like, "Oh, no, no, no. So there's a bunch of different..." You get stem cells from s- bone marrow.

Pauly Shore 26:11 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 26:11 You get stem cells from f- adipose tissue, from fat.

Pauly Shore 26:13 I need some for my penis.

Joe Rogan 26:14 Ooh, whoa. Hey.

Pauly Shore 26:16 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 26:16 Boom. Imagine if they figured out a way to make your dick bigger.

Pauly Shore 26:19 That's what I'm saying.

Joe Rogan 26:20 There'd be m-

Pauly Shore 26:20 It'd be more harder all the time.

Joe Rogan 26:21 It would just be like girls with giant tits.

Pauly Shore 26:22 Right.

Joe Rogan 26:23 That's what it'd be like with... The guys would just completely overdo it. They'd have a useless dick.

Pauly Shore 26:27 I mean, I think it-

Joe Rogan 26:29 There'd be a lot of Instagram pictures of guys with useless dicks, just... (laughs)

Pauly Shore 26:36 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 26:37 If nothing... (laughs)

Pauly Shore 26:39 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 26:40 (laughs)

Pauly Shore 26:40 I, I mean, I think there shou- I think there should be, you know, should be something like that. I, I mean, they... What do they take? The, uh, they take the fat off your butt, and they put it in...

Joe Rogan 26:50 Into your dick?

Pauly Shore 26:50 Yeah, into your dick, and they make it a, a-

Joe Rogan 26:52 I don't think you should let them do that. (laughs)

Pauly Shore 26:54 Right. I did.

Joe Rogan 26:55 You could have a rumpy dick.

Pauly Shore 26:55 You know what I did have? I did have a, uh, bladder surgery.

Joe Rogan 26:59 Yeah?

Pauly Shore 26:59 Yeah, I did.

Joe Rogan 27:00 What happened to your bladder?

Pauly Shore 27:01 I was just peeing a lot.

Joe Rogan 27:03 Was it leaky or something?

Pauly Shore 27:04 No, it wasn't leaky. What happened was, I would go pee at night, and then my bladder wouldn't, um, it wouldn't empty.

Joe Rogan 27:10 Hmm.

Pauly Shore 27:10 So I'd go pee, and then I lied back down. I'm like, "Fuck, I still have more pee." And I would do that four or five times in the middle of the night. And then I finally went, um, I went and got a, uh, um... I went to my doctor, and he sent me up with a urologist in the, uh, at Cedars, and he was this gay dude. And imagine that, a gay urologist, and this isn't a joke. This is real. And, um, he's like, "Let me see your dick."

Joe Rogan 27:32 (laughs)

Pauly Shore 27:32 I'm like, "Dude, that's not fucking cool." "Come on, let me see it!"

Joe Rogan 27:36 (laughs)

Pauly Shore 27:36 The fuck?

Joe Rogan 27:37 (laughs)

Pauly Shore 27:38 And so I showed him my dick. He's like, "Ooh."

Joe Rogan 27:41 (laughs)

Pauly Shore 27:41 I'm like, "What the fuck?" No.

Joe Rogan 27:42 (laughs)

Pauly Shore 27:42 So, so I did a, uh, a, a procedure called Rezum. So, if you don't believe me, uh, it's... You can-

Joe Rogan 27:48 Why would I not believe you?

Pauly Shore 27:49 Well, I'm just saying-

Joe Rogan 27:50 (laughs)

Pauly Shore 27:50 ... 'cause it doesn't sound-

Joe Rogan 27:51 Doesn't sound real.

Pauly Shore 27:52 Doesn't sound real.

Joe Rogan 27:52 ... like you met an alien. (laughs)

Pauly Shore 27:54 It doesn't... (laughs) But it's Rezum. I said, I said, I go, "What does this do?" He goes, "Well, once you do the procedure, then you resume how you used to pee before you had a pee problem." So, uh, you wake up in the m- Uh, they, they steam your prostate, and-

Joe Rogan 28:07 Steam it.

Pauly Shore 28:07 They steam it. Yeah.

Joe Rogan 28:08 Press it.

Pauly Shore 28:08 Yeah, they steam it right there.

Joe Rogan 28:10 Uh, Rezum procedure uses sterile water vapor, steam-

Pauly Shore 28:14 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 28:14 ... that is injected into the enlarged portions of the prostate.

Pauly Shore 28:17 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 28:17 The steam causes the prostate cells that are responsible for the enlargement to die, which then leads to shrinkage of the prostate, which in turn creates a more open urinary pathway. Oh, that's interesting.

Pauly Shore 28:30 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 28:30 That's pretty cool.

Pauly Shore 28:30 And it's... It was, it was a pretty easy procedure.

Joe Rogan 28:32 Science.

Pauly Shore 28:33 It was a pretty-

Joe Rogan 28:34 Amazing. Fix Pauly's dick-

Pauly Shore 28:35 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 28:36 ... with science.

Narrator 28:36 I wanna see some pictures but... (laughs)

Joe Rogan 28:37 (laughs) Don't do it.

Pauly Shore 28:38 Yeah, don't show the pictures.

Joe Rogan 28:39 I don't wanna see someone's dick get steamed.

Pauly Shore 28:41 So, we wake up in the m- mor- Or you wake up after the procedure. It's only like a 15-minute procedure. You wake up, and I, uh, I had a, a catheter in my dick.

Joe Rogan 28:50 Yay.

Pauly Shore 28:51 And then a piss bag right here connected to it.

Joe Rogan 28:53 Oh.

Pauly Shore 28:54 So, (laughs) so I said, "How long do I have to wear this?" He goes, he goes, "For a week." I'm like, "Dude, that's fucked up." So for a week, bro, I'm like, saying high five to my friend. I might even seen you with a piss bag.

Joe Rogan 29:04 And you had a piss bag?

Pauly Shore 29:04 I had a piss bag. Yeah.

Joe Rogan 29:05 So, do you, do you, like, tape it to your body? Like, what do you do?

Pauly Shore 29:07 No, you do it Velcroed to your, to your, to your, um, leg right here.

Joe Rogan 29:10 Whoa.

Pauly Shore 29:11 And, and, and so I had it for a whole week, and it was the best week of my life.

Joe Rogan 29:15 (laughs)

Pauly Shore 29:15 'Cause I'd be going, I'd be going to dinner with friends, just be pissing-

Joe Rogan 29:19 (laughs)

Pauly Shore 29:19 ... and fucking talking at the same time. And they're like, "What's so f- What are you doing?" I'm like, "Don't worry. Go on. It's a great story. It's fantastic."

Joe Rogan 29:25 Oh, that's hilarious.

Pauly Shore 29:26 And then, um, I drove from... I remember driving from Las Ve- No, driving from LA to Las Vegas, and it's a four-hour drive. I didn't have to stop once. But when I got to Vegas, I had a huge, like, piss tumor connected to my, um, connected to my leg, 'cause you just keep peeing. And then, and then, y-

Joe Rogan 29:42 At what point in time does it become disgusting? Like, you're ch- charting around a fucking-

Pauly Shore 29:46 Ah, fuck- Yeah, after a week. Then it's like a r-

Joe Rogan 29:48 ... sack of- A week? (laughs)

Pauly Shore 29:49 Yeah. After a week.

Joe Rogan 29:50 What's-

Narrator 29:51 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 29:51 What's the longest you've gone without changing it? For real?

Pauly Shore 29:54 Oh, no. You never change it. You just get-

Joe Rogan 29:56 I mean, dump it out.

Pauly Shore 29:57 Oh. You just... Every couple hours, you dump it out.

Joe Rogan 29:59 Every couple hours?

Pauly Shore 30:00 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 30:00 Okay.

Pauly Shore 30:00 But then-

Joe Rogan 30:01 Like, you've never, like, walked around, like, four or five hours with a bag of piss strapped to you?

Pauly Shore 30:04 No. No, no.

Joe Rogan 30:05 (laughs)

Pauly Shore 30:05 But, uh, so that was-

Joe Rogan 30:07 That's what I thought he was saying. Didn't that... What you thought he was saying?

Narrator 30:09 Yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 30:10 Yeah. We got confused.

Pauly Shore 30:11 Uh, so-

Joe Rogan 30:12 So you have to change the actual physical bag itself.

Pauly Shore 30:14 Yeah, you gotta-

Joe Rogan 30:15 Yeah.

Pauly Shore 30:15 You gotta, you gotta change-

Joe Rogan 30:16 Otherwise, it probably smells.

Pauly Shore 30:17 Yeah. But it was... It worked good. So, if there's any of your listeners that pee a lot in the middle of the night, check out Rezum.

Joe Rogan 30:22 Did you eat any asparagus?

Narrator 30:24 (laughs) I was just talking to them.

Joe Rogan 30:26 (laughs)

Pauly Shore 30:27 Oh, did you see my pee was green or something? No, no, no, because if... Asparagus makes your pee smell.Oh, I don't-

Joe Rogan 30:33 So I was wondering, like could you smell it through the bag? That would be interesting 'cause if like we all went to dinner, I'm like, "Paulie, have some asparagus."

Pauly Shore 30:39 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 30:39 Like if I knew that you (laughs) get the piss bag on, and then if I just smell asparagus pee, I'd be like, "You motherfucker."

Pauly Shore 30:45 No.

Joe Rogan 30:45 "Just sitting there peeing."

Pauly Shore 30:47 No. Not that way.

Joe Rogan 30:48 I think, would you be upset?

Narrator 30:49 It's not a voidable smell. You know what that is when you smell it.

Joe Rogan 30:51 I think I would probably let everybody know I was peeing, if that was going on. I'm like, "Hey guys, I'm about to pee. Just wanted you to know." I don't have to go anywhere.

Pauly Shore 30:58 Yeah. It was great.

Joe Rogan 30:59 It's tough to sell. Like A, you, that's actually, science has shown that it's actually the best way to pee 'cause you just pee whenever you want and holding your pee is actually very bad for you.

Pauly Shore 31:07 Really bad for you.

Joe Rogan 31:08 And so we're just gonna give this ... Everyone just start walking around with a piss bag slapped.

Pauly Shore 31:11 They, yeah, they need one for shit, I think.

Joe Rogan 31:13 (laughs)

Pauly Shore 31:14 Don't you think? You know what I mean? No. Well, yeah.

Joe Rogan 31:17 But, uh, the dumbest thing we do for shit is just smear it with toilet paper.

Pauly Shore 31:21 Oof.

Joe Rogan 31:22 Like once I got one of them, uh, toilets that squirts water at your butt.

Pauly Shore 31:25 Oh, wow.

Joe Rogan 31:26 You never had one?

Pauly Shore 31:27 No. I've seen it, but I never had one.

Joe Rogan 31:29 Paulie.

Pauly Shore 31:29 Really?

Joe Rogan 31:30 You gotta get one of those. There's a whole bunch of them.

Pauly Shore 31:32 Wow.

Joe Rogan 31:32 There's one-

Pauly Shore 31:32 Is that... That's a bidet, right?

Joe Rogan 31:34 Ye- well, it's not a bidet 'cause it's a, it's like a toilet.

Pauly Shore 31:36 Oh.

Joe Rogan 31:36 It's like a toilet seat bidet.

Pauly Shore 31:38 Oh. Oh, yeah. You have one in the other room.

Joe Rogan 31:39 We got them here.

Pauly Shore 31:40 Yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 31:40 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Go check it out.

Pauly Shore 31:40 Yeah, your guys showed me around your place.

Joe Rogan 31:42 Go try it out. (clicks tongue)

Pauly Shore 31:44 Your guys showed me around your place. So, so you got the sauna and you got the cold plunge in the back?

Joe Rogan 31:48 Uh-huh.

Pauly Shore 31:48 Yeah, that's dope.

Joe Rogan 31:49 Yeah. Have you done that?

Pauly Shore 31:50 I've done it, yeah.

Joe Rogan 31:51 Yeah.

Pauly Shore 31:51 I've been saunin- I mean that's ... Every time I see you talk about the cold plunge in the sauna, I'm like, "Yeah, that's my guy." That's what I do.

Joe Rogan 31:57 Cold plunges are the best.

Pauly Shore 31:58 Yeah, the r- I go- I usually-

Joe Rogan 31:59 Both of them reset your brain so well.

Pauly Shore 32:01 Yeah, I usually go to the, uh, Russian Bath House-

Joe Rogan 32:03 Mm.

Pauly Shore 32:04 ... in New York and LA, and then also the Korean spa.

Joe Rogan 32:06 Yeah, Ari loves that Russian Bath House in New York. He's always go- always going to those. Yeah, that's the... It's the best. It's so good for your body.

Pauly Shore 32:13 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 32:14 It really is.

Pauly Shore 32:15 Yeah, it's great. Um, yep.

Joe Rogan 32:18 Wait, you living in Vegas still?

Pauly Shore 32:20 Um, no. I got a, I kept a place there, but I moved back to LA.

Joe Rogan 32:23 Oh.

Pauly Shore 32:24 Yeah. So I got s-

Joe Rogan 32:24 How is it?

Pauly Shore 32:25 It's cool.

Joe Rogan 32:26 It's all right?

Pauly Shore 32:26 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 32:26 Everything's good?

Pauly Shore 32:27 Yeah, everything's awesome. It's, uh, you know. I don't wanna tell you where my house is. There's people listening.

Joe Rogan 32:32 (laughs)

Pauly Shore 32:33 But, uh, no, I'm very happy there. Um, that's where I was born and raised.

Joe Rogan 32:37 Yeah.

Pauly Shore 32:37 So it's like, you know, I f- I feel good there, but I like to leave. I like it here, dude.

Joe Rogan 32:41 It's fun.

Pauly Shore 32:42 I fucking love it here. This is really cool here.

Joe Rogan 32:45 It's fun.

Pauly Shore 32:45 And what you're doing is, is ... I mean, it, it's great, so yeah.

Joe Rogan 32:49 Thank you. Well, that was the whole ... I mean, it worked out better than I thought it could.

Pauly Shore 32:53 It's-

Joe Rogan 32:53 But that was kind of the idea.

Pauly Shore 32:55 And I think it was kinda cool that ... I mean, not kinda cool, but I think just ... Obviously everything is up to the sky, upstairs, but I think the two year kind of building up to it got your guys better, got everyone better working at the Vulcan.

Joe Rogan 33:08 Mm-hmm.

Pauly Shore 33:08 And, and working around town, and you know, it was this-

Joe Rogan 33:10 For sure.

Pauly Shore 33:11 It was this pimple that everyone's developing and developing and then finally, boom, the Mothership came, and then, boom, everyone's like, boom, and now it's just ba-ba-ba-ba-boom.

Joe Rogan 33:20 Yeah.

Pauly Shore 33:20 And it's this thing, yeah.

Joe Rogan 33:22 Well, and also that everybody had kinda shared my sentiments about getting out, like Tom Segura-

Pauly Shore 33:27 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 33:27 ... was one of the first. Tony Hinchcliffe was one of the first.

Pauly Shore 33:29 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 33:29 I think Tony came out first. Ron White was actually already here before the pandemic and it was also one of the reasons why I loved it 'cause he was always telling me, he's like, "It's the best fucking city."

Pauly Shore 33:38 Mm.

Joe Rogan 33:38 "You ain't gotta deal with all the bullshit you deal with in Hollywood."

Pauly Shore 33:41 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 33:42 And, you know, he would always talk so great about this town.

Pauly Shore 33:44 Well, I think what you're doing for comedy is great. I mean, you're creating a, this emerald city for New York and LA and, and people to come out here, and, and you got all these stages, and it's great. And then also, uh, Red Band started a club too.

Joe Rogan 33:58 Yeah, right down the street.

Pauly Shore 33:59 That's cool.

Joe Rogan 34:00 Yeah. Well-

Pauly Shore 34:01 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 34:01 ... it was this club that already exists-

Pauly Shore 34:02 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 34:03 ... and he, he bought into it as an investor and, um, they're, um ... They have a really nice room that's like ... I think it's like 500 seats right down the street.

Pauly Shore 34:10 Yeah. And I think it's great because I remember coming back, um, coming to Austin in the '90s when I was touring and, and everyone remembers Austin 6th Street music.

Joe Rogan 34:21 Yeah.

Pauly Shore 34:21 Austin 6th Street music, and now it's slowly starting to be comedy is the first thing and then music is the second thing, and it's great. I think, you know, I think-

Joe Rogan 34:29 Well, that one little spot, you have the Creek and the Cave that's on 7th-

Pauly Shore 34:32 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 34:32 ... and then you have the Vulcan which is on 6th, then we're on 6th, and then next to the Mothership is the Sunset Strip Club.

Pauly Shore 34:38 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 34:39 They're all in the same area. You could-

Pauly Shore 34:40 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 34:41 So guys are walking from club to club and doing sets-

Pauly Shore 34:44 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 34:45 ... in town.

Pauly Shore 34:45 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 34:46 And you ... Guys are doing four or five sets a night sometimes, especially when they're doing two shows in certain places.

Pauly Shore 34:50 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 34:51 So it's, uh ... And then there's l- other rooms outside.

Pauly Shore 34:54 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 34:55 It's like people are starting their own rooms which always happens. You know, like open mic-ers, it's one of the things open mic-ers have always done, like they'll get a Wednesday at some place-

Pauly Shore 35:03 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 35:04 ... and, and they start, you know, having people come in. They work a deal with the door. Like really eh- sort of, you know, business-minded open mic-ers have done that forever.

Pauly Shore 35:13 No, it's great. No, it's great.

Joe Rogan 35:15 Yeah.

Pauly Shore 35:15 And, and you, you know, you're the leader.

Joe Rogan 35:18 Well, I just did it 'cause I could, you know. It was like one of those things where it's like if someone could, they should.

Pauly Shore 35:24 Mm.

Joe Rogan 35:24 And you can, so why aren't you?

Pauly Shore 35:26 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 35:26 Okay. Well, you should. You know-

Pauly Shore 35:28 It's good.

Joe Rogan 35:28 ... I had like a talk with myself about it, like, "Goddamn, do you really wanna take on this?" 'Cause I would always tell people, "Be nice to comedy club owners 'cause you don't wanna be one."

Pauly Shore 35:37 Mm.

Joe Rogan 35:37 You don't wanna be some person d- d- hoping that this guy shows up and he wasn't doing coke last night and he isn't on a two-day bender. He didn't miss his flight or he didn't sleep in or d- didn't... You know, there's so many factors dealing with your livelihood if you're a club owner.

Pauly Shore 35:54 Mm.

Joe Rogan 35:54 And then, you know, you have ... People get too drunk. They're crazy. They do this, they do that. They wreck their hotel room.

Pauly Shore 36:00 Mm.

Joe Rogan 36:01 And, you know, you're, you're c- constantly like putting out fires.

Pauly Shore 36:04 Mm.

Joe Rogan 36:04 I'm like, "If you can make a harmonious relationship with a club owner, do it."

Pauly Shore 36:08 Mm.

Joe Rogan 36:08 Try to be as nice to them as possible. You work together. You don't wanna be them. You don't wanna open a comedy club. That's too much work. (laughs)

Pauly Shore 36:15 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 36:15 But now I wound up doing it.

Pauly Shore 36:16 Yeah, so what's it like being an owner? You're 100% owner?

Joe Rogan 36:19 Yeah.

Pauly Shore 36:20 100. So what's it like?

Joe Rogan 36:21 ... well, it's easy because the people that are running it are great. You know, if it wasn't for Curtis and Adam and Eric and Jodie and, uh, and all the people that... And Carrie, the people that we knew from the store-

Pauly Shore 36:32 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 36:32 ... if it wasn't for them, it, they wouldn't be able to, to work like this.

Pauly Shore 36:35 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 36:35 They, they have such a long experience in running clubs.

Pauly Shore 36:37 Yes.

Joe Rogan 36:38 So it's, that helps a lot.

Pauly Shore 36:40 And then for com-

Joe Rogan 36:41 That's a big, big factor.

Pauly Shore 36:41 For comics that are listening that wanna get in, in at your club, what's the process?

Joe Rogan 36:46 Pfft.

Pauly Shore 36:46 Is it-

Joe Rogan 36:47 Yeah, I'm not gonna, like, put that out there. They could figure it out. The, the-

Pauly Shore 36:50 They have to figure it out.

Joe Rogan 36:50 ... the best way to go, do is go to open mic nights if you're, you're just starting out, or you know, Adam Eget is the talent coordinator if you're an established comedian, reach out to him.

Pauly Shore 36:58 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 36:59 But he's been reaching out to everybody anyway. It's like, it's, it's nice. It's been, it's been very smooth from the, the opening jump.

Pauly Shore 37:06 And then mostly the small room is the developmental room?

Joe Rogan 37:09 Not always.

Pauly Shore 37:10 Development room?

Joe Rogan 37:10 No, Chappelle did that room, the, he broke it in the first night.

Pauly Shore 37:13 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 37:13 It's a fun room to do sets because it's very intimate 'cause it's a 120 seats-

Pauly Shore 37:17 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 37:18 ... and it's really packed in.

Pauly Shore 37:18 No, I love that room. That was a great room.

Joe Rogan 37:20 Yeah, that one-

Pauly Shore 37:20 Tonight, tonight I'm doing your other room, and I haven't... I did kill Tony last night and that was great. So tonight's the first night that I'm gonna do a spot in your-

Joe Rogan 37:29 You'll love it.

Pauly Shore 37:29 ... your bigger room, yeah.

Joe Rogan 37:30 Yeah. You'll love it. The sound's amazing.

Pauly Shore 37:32 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 37:32 It's just, uh, it's all, it just, we really spent a lot of time-

Pauly Shore 37:35 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 37:35 ... making sure that everything was dialed in. And also I brought in Louis C.K. who helped a lot.

Pauly Shore 37:39 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 37:40 Louis C.K., uh, had me change, uh, a couple things about the small room, had me made the s- make the stage smaller, and lower the ceiling even more.

Pauly Shore 37:47 Hm.

Joe Rogan 37:47 The ceiling was already low. It's like, "Can you lower it more?"

Pauly Shore 37:50 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 37:50 I was like, "I think we can. Can we lower it more?" And then there was, like, all these discussions, so-

Pauly Shore 37:53 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 37:53 ... it actually delayed the opening by a few weeks-

Pauly Shore 37:56 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 37:56 ... from his suggestions, but they were all awesome. They were all perfect suggestions. And then everybody else suggested things too. Tony had some suggestions. David Lucas had some suggestions, like c- comics had been coming to visit this for the last year and a half. We've been talking, wouldn't... "Do you think we should do this?" It's like one of those things. So I get everybody together.

Pauly Shore 38:14 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 38:15 And I'm like, "Okay, should we have screens where you could watch the comics in the green room?" Yeah. Okay. What about like, if we have a clock over the screen? Like, everybody has, like, a different idea. Okay. What about if we had stars? I think the w- it might have been Brian Simpson that had that idea. We'll have, you know, because the star, like the light in the OR?

Pauly Shore 38:32 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 38:32 We, we have a, a blue light and a green light.

Pauly Shore 38:35 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 38:35 So we have the blue one for the big room and the green one for the little room, and they go off when it goes off in that room, they go off also inside the green room.

Pauly Shore 38:42 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 38:43 So you could be sitting there and go, "Oh, he's got the light," and you see it and you just walk right on the stage.

Pauly Shore 38:46 Yeah. And then when, when the, the customer walks in, explain the... I know we, I've seen the video, but they walk in, they go upstairs, the, uh, the, the, the, the, the, the, the bigger room is on the second floor, and then the smaller room is on the third floor?

Joe Rogan 39:02 Um...

Pauly Shore 39:03 Is that...

Joe Rogan 39:04 Yes. Yeah.

Pauly Shore 39:05 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 39:05 Yeah, it's exactly what it is.

Pauly Shore 39:06 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 39:06 Yeah.

Pauly Shore 39:07 And then, um-

Joe Rogan 39:08 It's ugh, it's horrible. I, I don't even think of it as having that many floors, but I guess it does.

Pauly Shore 39:11 And then also, I know when I was backstage with you when we were kicking it, you looked at your, uh, curtains and you said, "Oh, we gotta change the curtain in the big room so it looks like the smaller curtain."

Joe Rogan 39:20 Yeah. The smaller room curtain's a better curtain.

Pauly Shore 39:22 Yeah. So-

Joe Rogan 39:23 Yeah, it's weird to be just thinking about those things, but-

Pauly Shore 39:25 Yeah. So who's... So should we tell Curtis to do that?

Joe Rogan 39:27 No, it's already done. It's already done.

Pauly Shore 39:27 Oh, you already did it?

Joe Rogan 39:28 Yeah. It should be this week it should be put up.

Pauly Shore 39:30 Holy shit.

Joe Rogan 39:31 Yeah.

Pauly Shore 39:31 So it's gonna match.

Joe Rogan 39:32 Yeah. It'll be better.

Pauly Shore 39:33 It's gonna... I was gonna, I was gonna ask you, I've been doing a, um... For the last couple years I've been doing a one-man show about my childhood.

Joe Rogan 39:40 Mm-hmm.

Pauly Shore 39:40 Yeah. And it was, uh, kinda like my version of Undisputed Truth, which is the Mike Tyson play.

Joe Rogan 39:45 Oh, nice. (laughs)

Pauly Shore 39:46 So it's called Stick with the Dancing.

Joe Rogan 39:48 (laughs)

Pauly Shore 39:49 So it's called Stick with the Dancing 'cause that's what my mom said to me after she saw me perform for the first time.

Joe Rogan 39:53 That's hilarious.

Pauly Shore 39:54 So, 'cause I perform-

Joe Rogan 39:55 Well, why don't you come out and do a weekend? Wanna do a weekend at the club?

Pauly Shore 39:57 That's why I wanted to talk to you.

Joe Rogan 39:58 Yeah, let's do it.

Pauly Shore 39:58 Do you have screens on... screens-

Joe Rogan 40:00 Yes. Yeah, we have screens.

Pauly Shore 40:01 ... on the bigger room?

Joe Rogan 40:02 Yes.

Pauly Shore 40:02 Okay, cool.

Joe Rogan 40:02 In both rooms. Yeah.

Pauly Shore 40:04 So if I perform, there's things I can put-

Joe Rogan 40:06 Yeah, yeah. We have a projector in the ceiling and-

Pauly Shore 40:07 And it comes down?

Joe Rogan 40:08 ... the sound guy can... Yeah.

Pauly Shore 40:09 Oh, great.

Joe Rogan 40:09 So-

Pauly Shore 40:09 Yeah. I wanna do that.

Joe Rogan 40:10 ... it'll take, like, a little extra coordination with whoever's doing it so they know what the files are and you can go over them with him-

Pauly Shore 40:16 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 40:16 ... but I'm sure you could do it. Yeah. It's set up for that.

Pauly Shore 40:18 Yeah. Yeah. It's a pretty cool, uh, it's a pretty cool show. And, uh-

Joe Rogan 40:21 I can't wait to see it.

Pauly Shore 40:22 Yeah. It's fun. Yeah.

Joe Rogan 40:23 Dude, you, you're, you got babysitted (laughs) by Sam Kinison. It's one of the funniest stories of all time. (laughs) Like, what a crazy thing your mom did.

Pauly Shore 40:30 It was, yeah.

Joe Rogan 40:30 She left you as a little child as one of the most maniacal comedians that's ever existed. (laughs)

Pauly Shore 40:35 Well, it wasn't, it wasn't exactly like that. It was more-

Joe Rogan 40:39 What was it like?

Pauly Shore 40:40 Well, it was more like Sam was... I was 14 years old. I was a short order cook at The Comedy Store in Westwood. My mom would put Sam on last 'cause all he would do is scream and then he would literally... You know, there'd be six people left in the room in Westwood and he'd throw the stools, he'd throw the... his stool at the audience members, they'd scamper off, he'd smoke weed in the parking lot, and then he would, um... You know, I'd feed him hamburgers. So I kind of just... I was always taking care of comedians. And-

Joe Rogan 41:07 What year was this?

Pauly Shore 41:08 This was, uh, probably '84, eightif- '84, '85. I was in high school. Yeah.

Joe Rogan 41:13 So he really hit in '86.

Pauly Shore 41:15 Yes.

Joe Rogan 41:16 That's when he really hit.

Pauly Shore 41:16 Yeah. Yeah. So-

Joe Rogan 41:19 Did, did I ever tell you my story how I found out about him?

Pauly Shore 41:21 It's probably Boston with Parenteau or something.

Joe Rogan 41:24 No. A girl that I worked with at the Boston Athletic Club.

Pauly Shore 41:27 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 41:27 Gosh, g- still to this day I can't remember her fucking name. She was really cool though. She was this big volleyball player girl. Like, just-

Pauly Shore 41:34 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 41:34 ... big athletic girl. And, uh, s- she goes to me, she goes, "Have you seen Sam Kinisman? Sam Kinison?" Whatever his name was. Um, I go, "No, I haven't." And so she acts out in the parking lot-

Pauly Shore 41:46 Oh, wow.

Joe Rogan 41:46 ... the whole bit about him, uh, like-

Pauly Shore 41:48 Ethiopia or something.

Joe Rogan 41:49 No, no, no. The, the, uh-

Pauly Shore 41:50 Homosexual necrophilia.

Joe Rogan 41:52 Homosexual necrophiliacs-

Pauly Shore 41:52 Yeah. Oh, God. Oh, oh, God.

Joe Rogan 41:53 ... having sex with him. Yeah.

Pauly Shore 41:54 Yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 41:54 She acted it out-

Pauly Shore 41:55 Right.

Joe Rogan 41:55 ... in the parking lot. She's like, "Oh, oh, life keeps fucking you in the ass even after you're dead."

Pauly Shore 42:00 Right, right.

Joe Rogan 42:00 "It never ends." Me laughing-

Pauly Shore 42:02 Right.

Joe Rogan 42:02 ... at her acting it out in the parking lot made me go get the VHS tape. So I got a VHS tape of his, his-

Pauly Shore 42:09 Wow.

Joe Rogan 42:09 ... uh, HBO special.

Pauly Shore 42:10 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 42:11 And I was like, "Holy shit." So I found out about it from a girl acting out the bit. She's t- on her stomach in the parking lot going, "Oh, oh, feels like something's in my ass."

Pauly Shore 42:22 I know.

Joe Rogan 42:22 ... yes.

Pauly Shore 42:23 You can't believe it, that angle was genius.

Joe Rogan 42:25 It's such a-

Pauly Shore 42:25 It's a fucking genius-

Joe Rogan 42:26 ... hilarious bit.

Pauly Shore 42:27 ... genius point of view. That, that night was, that was 1987, and that was at the Roxy on Sunset. And my mom had an after-party for him, at the house.

Joe Rogan 42:37 Wow.

Pauly Shore 42:38 At the Doheny house. So that night afterwards, Sam came to the house with everyone, and, um, and I was so excited 'cause I wanted to show him my, my saltwater fish tank.

Joe Rogan 42:48 Oh.

Pauly Shore 42:48 'Cause as a kid, I had a saltwater fish tank, and I brought him up to my room, and I said, "Sam, look at my tank," and he wasn't impressed at all. He's like... But he told me to take the top off? The saltwater fish tank was a big, black top, and I took it down. He dumped all this coke on it.

Joe Rogan 43:03 (laughs)

Pauly Shore 43:05 And he started chopping up lines and he says, "Have fun." And me and my friend Dave, we snorted Sam's coke that night.

Joe Rogan 43:11 Oh my God.

Pauly Shore 43:11 And I felt, like, so cool.

Joe Rogan 43:13 (laughs)

Pauly Shore 43:14 I felt like... No, for real. I was like-

Joe Rogan 43:16 Of course.

Pauly Shore 43:16 "... fuck, this guy..." You know, and then I just followed him around.

Joe Rogan 43:19 Wow.

Pauly Shore 43:19 So as far as him, him babysitting me, it was, it was... No, I, I-

Joe Rogan 43:23 So that was just the way everyone described it.

Pauly Shore 43:25 Yeah, I mean, Lois Bromfield babysitting me, Jackson Perdue babysat me. Uh-

Joe Rogan 43:29 So you were essentially-

Pauly Shore 43:29 ... Mike Binder, Argus Hamilton, all those guys, yeah.

Joe Rogan 43:32 So you were essentially just, like, his young protege.

Pauly Shore 43:35 Yeah, I would fo-... It was like the Mi- Michael Jordan commercial. Like-

Joe Rogan 43:38 (laughs)

Pauly Shore 43:38 ... you know, the kid wanted to be like Mike? I wanted to be like, or I wanted to be like Sam.

Joe Rogan 43:41 Right. So-

Pauly Shore 43:42 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 43:42 Look at you.

Pauly Shore 43:43 Yeah, so, yeah.

Joe Rogan 43:45 What year is that?

Pauly Shore 43:46 I was probably 11.

Joe Rogan 43:47 Wow.

Pauly Shore 43:48 I was probably 11.

Joe Rogan 43:49 What a fucking crazy place to grow up.

Pauly Shore 43:52 Yeah. Back then.

Joe Rogan 43:54 Oh my God.

Pauly Shore 43:54 Yeah, back then.

Joe Rogan 43:55 Back, I mean-

Pauly Shore 43:56 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 43:56 ... back then.

Pauly Shore 43:56 I mean, there's so many stories, dude. I mean, I'm there now, and it's, it's great obviously, it's the store, but when Mom was there, it was just like you never know what the fuck was gonna happen. You never-

Joe Rogan 44:06 Yeah.

Pauly Shore 44:06 ... knew who was gonna pull in the fucking lot.

Joe Rogan 44:08 Right, right.

Pauly Shore 44:08 You never knew who was gonna come up. It was just like-

Joe Rogan 44:10 Yeah.

Pauly Shore 44:10 It was like, it was like someone shooting guns.

Joe Rogan 44:13 Yeah.

Pauly Shore 44:13 Not literally, but just as far as the energy. Boom, boom, boom. I mean, Eddie Murphy used to show up with, like, six Rolls-Royces.

Joe Rogan 44:20 (laughs)

Pauly Shore 44:21 Like for real, dude. And then Richard would show up, and, you know?

Joe Rogan 44:25 Wow.

Pauly Shore 44:25 And, and all these guys would just... Well, and this is, this is around when you got there. It was kinda towards... Right? You got there in ninety-

Joe Rogan 44:32 Four.

Pauly Shore 44:33 ... 94. Yeah, I saw that-

Joe Rogan 44:34 That was probably before when I got there.

Pauly Shore 44:35 Yeah, I saw the, um, the calendar you had-

Joe Rogan 44:38 Yeah.

Pauly Shore 44:38 ... from my mom where she put your name, I thought that was really cool.

Joe Rogan 44:41 Yeah, it's very cool.

Pauly Shore 44:42 Yeah. So, um, yeah, so that was, that was that time. You know, you know who I'm really proud of, is Argus.

Joe Rogan 44:47 Look at this right here.

Pauly Shore 44:48 It's Argus, yeah.

Joe Rogan 44:49 What is that? What year is that?

Pauly Shore 44:52 (sighs) That was last year. No, I'm just kidding (laughs) .

Joe Rogan 44:53 Yeah, Pauly Shore bringing up Eddie Murphy.

Pauly Shore 44:56 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 44:56 When did Eddie retire? So he retired in what year? He stopped doing standup when?

Pauly Shore 45:01 Um, I don't know. It's a while... I was at, I was at his house probably five years ago, and I was just like, "Dude, what are you doing?"

Joe Rogan 45:07 (sighs)

Pauly Shore 45:07 Like, "You're a fucking... You're the best, dude." Like, "Let's go." He's like, "I don't wanna do it."

Joe Rogan 45:10 He's like literally the best.

Pauly Shore 45:12 I think he should come out here and do it. He'd be great at... 'Cause you put the phones in the, in the pouches-

Joe Rogan 45:16 Well, he could do that anywhere if he wanted to.

Pauly Shore 45:18 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 45:18 I think the hard part would be, like, doing it. Just getting going. I s- I think if he did it once? Then he'd wanna do it all the time.

Pauly Shore 45:24 Mm.

Joe Rogan 45:25 You know, but it's like, you get locked up in that movie world.

Pauly Shore 45:28 But he's also inc- case in his house. That's the same thing with Dr. Dre.

Joe Rogan 45:31 Mm.

Pauly Shore 45:32 Dr. Dre, um, he would be great on this show.

Joe Rogan 45:34 Mm, I'd love to have him on.

Pauly Shore 45:35 Okay Dre, what's up? I'm gonna put you on the show.

Joe Rogan 45:37 (laughs)

Pauly Shore 45:38 So we could text him right now. So I've known Dre... When my mom died, he was, he was, he was, uh, one of, like, the two or three people that really reached out to me.

Joe Rogan 45:46 Oh, yeah.

Pauly Shore 45:47 'Cause he knew how close I was with my mom, yeah. He sent me flowers, it was really beautiful.

Joe Rogan 45:51 Oh, that's cool.

Pauly Shore 45:52 Yeah. It was, it was great.

Joe Rogan 45:53 That's very cool.

Pauly Shore 45:53 And, um... But I went to his house. You know, these guys get... These guys g- are so, so big and so wealthy they enclose themself.

Joe Rogan 46:02 Right.

Pauly Shore 46:03 So, um, I saw him at... I re- reconnected with him at Dave Chappelle's show at the, uh, the Hollywood Bowl. And he's like, "Yo, hit me up, da-da-da-da-da." I hit him up, I go to his house, and it's like fucking El Chapo, bro.

Joe Rogan 46:16 (laughs)

Pauly Shore 46:16 It's like, you know what I mean? It's like he's... He's... I don't wanna, I don't wanna reveal all this shit.

Joe Rogan 46:21 Yeah, I get it.

Pauly Shore 46:21 But it's like-

Joe Rogan 46:21 Yeah.

Pauly Shore 46:21 ... you know, it's, it's pretty heavy. But I go in there, he's the same fucking guy that he was, you know, 20, 30 years ago.

Joe Rogan 46:27 Of course.

Pauly Shore 46:27 He's, you know, he's just-

Joe Rogan 46:27 Of course. Most people are.

Pauly Shore 46:28 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 46:28 They just, they do deteriorate psychologically, though, in isolation.

Pauly Shore 46:32 Yeah, he says, "Yo, man, you wanna see me? You come here." So it was, it was pretty cool.

Joe Rogan 46:36 That's also a ni- nice thing about having this club.

Pauly Shore 46:39 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 46:39 That I'm hanging around with comics all the time.

Pauly Shore 46:41 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 46:41 You know?

Pauly Shore 46:42 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 46:42 And it's just... there's... you're not isolated.

Pauly Shore 46:44 Mm-mm.

Joe Rogan 46:45 You're out... The... And as a comic, one of the things that does happen when you tour, we were talking about, you, you bring an opening act. You maybe hang out with them, and that's it.

Pauly Shore 46:54 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 46:54 Like, that's the whole weekend. It's kind of isolating. And if you're not with th- that person-

Pauly Shore 46:59 Mm.

Joe Rogan 47:00 ... then you go and you use, like, local opening acts. I mean, maybe it's great and you meet a great friend, and that's how I met Sagura. Or maybe it's terrible.

Pauly Shore 47:07 Mm.

Joe Rogan 47:07 And you have a shitty weekend with people you don't like.

Pauly Shore 47:09 So, yeah, so what do you think of these guys? I mean, I'm, I'm like... I'm a fan. You know, of you, of Tom, of, of Burt, and all these guys. Like, what you, you've... do you ever pinch yourself and see what you've really... I'm not saying you're the, the holier-than-thou person that did this. The talent, their talent speaks for themselves, but you have a lot to do with these guys' careers. It's pretty-

Joe Rogan 47:28 Well, they have a lot to do with mine, too, though. Th- that's part of the appeal of this show.

Pauly Shore 47:34 Mm.

Joe Rogan 47:34 Part of the appeal of this show is, like, th- having those guys on is great for me too.

Pauly Shore 47:37 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 47:37 It's great for everybody.

Pauly Shore 47:38 But I'm just saying... 'Cause I, again, I seen it, I seen the, the, the slow build. You know?

Joe Rogan 47:43 Yeah, but they're, they're huge 'cause they're great. Th- that's what it is. Like, you have to, you have to do the work and put it in... And it's like everybody should have a chance to do it.

Pauly Shore 47:51 Mm.

Joe Rogan 47:51 Like, giving someone a chance to excel, you shouldn't get any credit for that. Like, the, the people that excel, they get the credit. Like, the, what they're doing is what's exceptional, and it's they put in the work. Guys like Burt put in the work. Like, he's selling out fucking arenas now.

Pauly Shore 48:05 I know it's fucking-

Joe Rogan 48:06 It's insane.

Pauly Shore 48:07 (laughs) Right.

Joe Rogan 48:07 It's insane. But he puts the-

Pauly Shore 48:08 I don't... It's...

Joe Rogan 48:08 ... work in you, no one can deny that, man. He puts the fucking work in.

Pauly Shore 48:10 He is the machine. He's the fucking machine, bro.

Joe Rogan 48:13 Yeah, I mean, he-

Pauly Shore 48:13 He just keeps-

Joe Rogan 48:14 ... selfless promoter, he's always making these great videos.

Pauly Shore 48:17 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 48:17 He's always, like, fucking full on rah-rah Burt-

Pauly Shore 48:20 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 48:20 ... with his big gut hanging out.

Pauly Shore 48:21 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 48:21 He's a wild man. He's killing it. And his new movie's hilarious.

Pauly Shore 48:24 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 48:24 This Machine movie's gonna crush it. It's gonna crush it.

Pauly Shore 48:27 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 48:27 It's fu-... I watched one of the, the previews that he showed us.

Pauly Shore 48:30 Yeah, it's great.

Joe Rogan 48:30 And... Did he show us other things other than the previews?... no, right?

Pauly Shore 48:34 Have you seen my movie, Guest House?

Joe Rogan 48:36 I have not.

Pauly Shore 48:36 It's on Netflix. Eric Griffin's in it. Bobby Lee's in it.

Joe Rogan 48:40 When was this?

Pauly Shore 48:40 Steve-O's in it.

Joe Rogan 48:41 When was this?

Pauly Shore 48:41 Like a couple years ago.

Joe Rogan 48:42 Oh, no shit.

Pauly Shore 48:43 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 48:43 During the pandemic-

Pauly Shore 48:44 Yes.

Joe Rogan 48:44 ... you guys made a movie?

Pauly Shore 48:45 No, right before but it came out in the pandemic.

Joe Rogan 48:47 Oh. Oh, that's good, man.

Pauly Shore 48:47 It's on Netflix. It's great.

Joe Rogan 48:49 Okay. That's great-

Pauly Shore 48:50 It's-

Joe Rogan 48:50 ... to have something come out when everybody's definitely watching TV.

Pauly Shore 48:52 Yeah. It did well. It's called Guest House. I play a guy that lives in the guest house that won't leave.

Joe Rogan 48:57 Ah. (laughs)

Pauly Shore 48:57 So it's, uh, it's R-rated. It's the first R-rated comedy I've ever done.

Joe Rogan 49:01 Oh, wow.

Pauly Shore 49:01 Yeah. And th-

Joe Rogan 49:02 Oh, that's nice.

Pauly Shore 49:02 Yeah. It was cool. It was... It was pretty raw, too.

Joe Rogan 49:04 I'll check it out.

Pauly Shore 49:05 Yeah. It's cool. I think you'll like it.

Joe Rogan 49:07 It's amazing-

Pauly Shore 49:07 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 49:07 ... the shows that popped off during... Like, would... Do you think Tiger King-

Pauly Shore 49:11 Mm.

Joe Rogan 49:11 ... would've become as big?

Pauly Shore 49:12 Absolutely not.

Joe Rogan 49:13 Right? It seems like-

Pauly Shore 49:14 No way.

Joe Rogan 49:14 ... it was like a timing of the universe.

Pauly Shore 49:16 Yeah. Yeah.

Joe Rogan 49:16 It was like perfect door opened-

Pauly Shore 49:17 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 49:18 ... where everybody's at home, and then everybody's, like, kinda freaking out. What better way to stop freaking out than look at some people that are way more fucked up than you? (laughs)

Pauly Shore 49:25 Right.

Joe Rogan 49:26 Like-

Pauly Shore 49:26 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 49:26 ... at least you're not that guy.

Pauly Shore 49:28 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 49:28 You know? This fucking outside brace on, carrying a pistol everywhere, and fucking all these straight guys. (laughs) Like-

Pauly Shore 49:33 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 49:33 ... this is wild.

Pauly Shore 49:34 Yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 49:34 And this guy, he, like, he owns tigers?

Pauly Shore 49:37 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 49:37 And how about the one person that got... I don't remem... know if this person decided they're a boy or a girl. Did they change genders? Whatev... Whatever. Person got their fucking arm bitten off by a tiger.

Pauly Shore 49:47 Yes.

Joe Rogan 49:47 Instead of going-

Pauly Shore 49:48 That was his... (laughs)

Joe Rogan 49:48 ... through a bunch of operations-

Pauly Shore 49:49 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 49:49 ... they said, "Nah-"

Pauly Shore 49:50 That was his... (laughs)

Joe Rogan 49:50 "... just cut it off."

Pauly Shore 49:51 That was his boy. Yeah.

Joe Rogan 49:52 "I don't wanna go through five operations."

Pauly Shore 49:54 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 49:54 "Just take this fucking arm off." Yeah. Bro.

Pauly Shore 49:58 Yeah. I know.

Joe Rogan 49:59 What the fuck, man?

Pauly Shore 50:00 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 50:02 I mean... And then, goes right back to working with tigers. Look-

Pauly Shore 50:06 What? What?

Joe Rogan 50:06 Tiger, tiger in h-he/she/they/them lap. Wild.

Pauly Shore 50:11 What do you, what do you think about the whole, um... I, I don't, I don't wanna say the word tr-

Joe Rogan 50:16 By the way, free Joe Exotic. Free Joe Exotic.

Pauly Shore 50:18 Free Joe. Free Joe Exotic.

Joe Rogan 50:19 Free Joe Exotic.

Pauly Shore 50:20 Let's go do a, a mobile po... a, your mobile podcast from jail.

Joe Rogan 50:23 I wish. I wish she'd-

Pauly Shore 50:24 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 50:24 ... g- give him a day off. (laughs)

Pauly Shore 50:27 So what do you think about the whole... I don't wanna use the word trinje... trajectory 'cause that's not a real word.

Joe Rogan 50:32 Trajectory?

Pauly Shore 50:33 Trajectory, thank you.

Joe Rogan 50:34 Of what? (laughs)

Pauly Shore 50:35 Of just from the, the, the, the last 30 years of, of the entertainment business, you know, how it started off with, you know, movies, TV, and then, like, Real World came, and then, you know, and then, uh, what was it, um, Amazing Race, and, and all these things. And then, all of a sudden, the internet came, and now everyone's got their own show.

Joe Rogan 50:53 Yeah.

Pauly Shore 50:53 And then, when you watch a movie with great actors like, you know, Pacino or whoever you think is great, you're staring at your phone. You're looking at... You're like... What do you think about that? Because growing up, I never thought that this would ever happen. I thought everything was always gonna be like the '70s, '80s, '90s, early 2000s. I mean, you talk about when I was your age. This is really a big shift.

Joe Rogan 51:16 Yeah. It's a huge shift.

Pauly Shore 51:16 You know, everyone's famous now. What do you think about that whole thing?

Joe Rogan 51:19 Well, it's a big shift, but the... They're still making movies. They're still making television shows. Um, Matt Damon, uh, made a video where he was explaining why people aren't making movies anymore.

Pauly Shore 51:31 Mm.

Joe Rogan 51:32 Why they're not making good m... And how hard it is to make a movie now.

Pauly Shore 51:34 Mm.

Joe Rogan 51:35 And, um, he explained it for... As, you know, persons, like, on the inside, and it's, it's much more daunting than I thought.

Pauly Shore 51:42 Mm.

Joe Rogan 51:42 And then there's the television show thing. There's a lot of television shows now, right? There's television shows that are on Netflix and television shows that are on regular networks, but reality shows are very cheap, very easy, and very compelling.

Pauly Shore 51:55 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 51:56 You know? And they found that out through Fear Factor, and through Survivor, and through, you know, all those other shows. Th- that kinda shifted the landscape away from the sitcom.

Pauly Shore 52:04 Mm.

Joe Rogan 52:05 And the sitcom was our Holy Grail, right? When we first came to Hollywood-

Pauly Shore 52:09 Mm.

Joe Rogan 52:09 ... or not, not when you did, but when my g-generation came to Hollywood in, like, '94-

Pauly Shore 52:14 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 52:14 ... when we came out here, everybody wanted a sitcom, you know? I mean, I remember when you had your sitcom on Fox.

Pauly Shore 52:19 Mm.

Joe Rogan 52:19 I remember I came out to the premiere.

Pauly Shore 52:21 Oh, wow.

Joe Rogan 52:22 It was, i- it was like, "Holy shit, you got a show."

Pauly Shore 52:25 Mm.

Joe Rogan 52:25 Like, that was it. That's what everybody wanted. Everybody wanted-

Pauly Shore 52:28 That was-

Joe Rogan 52:28 Everybody wanted the golden... That was the golden handle.

Pauly Shore 52:29 That was her rhythm. That was-

Joe Rogan 52:31 Yes.

Pauly Shore 52:31 ... her rhythm, yeah.

Joe Rogan 52:32 Well, that was the times.

Pauly Shore 52:33 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 52:33 That's what it was back then. Nowadays-

Pauly Shore 52:35 Mm.

Joe Rogan 52:36 ... if you're trying to get a sitcom, uh, l... Uh, other than Miss Pat, who's pulled it off... Miss Pat's show is fucking hilarious.

Pauly Shore 52:43 Wow.

Joe Rogan 52:43 It's really good-

Pauly Shore 52:44 Wow.

Joe Rogan 52:44 ... dude. But it's on BET+.

Pauly Shore 52:45 Mm.

Joe Rogan 52:46 It's not on a, a network, so she can swear. She can say whatever the fuck-

Pauly Shore 52:49 Mm.

Joe Rogan 52:49 ... she wants. That show's really good.

Pauly Shore 52:51 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 52:51 But other than that, how many comics do you know that have a sitcom-

Pauly Shore 52:55 Mm.

Joe Rogan 52:55 ... a multicam sitcom? You know, Whitney had one for a while.

Pauly Shore 53:00 Mm.

Joe Rogan 53:00 A lot of people had them. Tom Rhodes had a show.

Pauly Shore 53:02 Mm.

Joe Rogan 53:02 Back when I was on NewsRadio, he had a show.

Pauly Shore 53:04 Mm.

Joe Rogan 53:05 There was a lot of fucking people at ch- shows.

Pauly Shore 53:07 Mm.

Joe Rogan 53:08 But now...

Pauly Shore 53:09 Mm.

Joe Rogan 53:10 Now, no. Greg Giraldo had a show. He, he was right next to us when we were filming Fear Factors or filming, uh, NewsRadio as well.

Pauly Shore 53:18 It's the same thing with the talk show format as well. Everyone's got a talk show... I mean, not everyone's got a talk show, but there's the three talk shows, but then there's guys like you that trump the talk show.

Joe Rogan 53:29 Well, the pro... They're just playing with an outdated system. So they're involved in a system that has to stop every few minutes-

Pauly Shore 53:37 Mm.

Joe Rogan 53:37 ... um, for commercials.

Pauly Shore 53:40 Mm.

Joe Rogan 53:40 It only airs at a specific time, meaning you have to be there to watch or you have to set your DVR to watch it later. It takes a lot of additional steps. There's a lot going on that makes those things unappealing.

Pauly Shore 53:51 Mm.

Joe Rogan 53:52 The other thing is a person goes on. They only talk for five minutes.

Pauly Shore 53:55 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 53:55 If you're a person that wants to explain something very complicated, like the Younger Dryas impact theory, or, like, uh, you know, if Bob Lazar wants to go on a show and talk about how he was hired by the government to back-engineer flying saucers...

Pauly Shore 54:10 Well, that's not, that's not a five-clip on-

Joe Rogan 54:11 (laughs)

Pauly Shore 54:11 ... (laughs) on Jimmy Kimmel, right?

Joe Rogan 54:13 Yeah, you're not gonna be able to do it. It's-

Pauly Shore 54:14 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 54:14 It's literally they're, they're completely handicapped by the system that they operate in. You can't do it. When I saw Tom Green's show-

Pauly Shore 54:23 Mm.

Joe Rogan 54:23 ... he had this show that he did in his house that he set up, uh, like a talk show set in his house. And he had all these cables that ran from the talk show, uh, set-up to a server room. Like, he had... Like, his house had been converted into a television studio. I was like, "This is amazing."

Pauly Shore 54:39 Mm.

Joe Rogan 54:39 It was in 2007.

Pauly Shore 54:40 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 54:41 And that was when I was like, "Okay, th- that's probably the way to do it." This talk show way, they're never gonna give me one of those things. If they do, I'll fuck it up. I'll say something stupid. And-

Pauly Shore 54:51 So when you saw Tom, Tom Green's show, that's when you and Redband sat on the couch around that time?

Joe Rogan 54:56 Well, we did it a couple of years later.

Pauly Shore 54:57 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 54:57 We started doing things, like we would do, um, uh, videos that we would do after shows or during, um-

Pauly Shore 55:03 Hook a brother up, please.

Joe Rogan 55:04 Yeah. You want some coffee, sir?

Pauly Shore 55:05 Hook a brother up. Dude, we're just hanging out. We're having coffee.

Joe Rogan 55:08 Yeah. We're chilling, brother.

Pauly Shore 55:09 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 55:09 Cheers.

Pauly Shore 55:10 Cheers, bud.

Joe Rogan 55:11 ... um, so we started doing that in like 2000, um, like, seven or eight. We started doing-

Pauly Shore 55:17 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 55:17 ... like green room shows with a webcam.

Pauly Shore 55:19 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 55:19 Just fucking around.

Pauly Shore 55:21 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 55:22 And then in 2009, we started doing the podcast-

Pauly Shore 55:24 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 55:24 ... again, just fucking around.

Pauly Shore 55:26 Yeah, 'cause when I, when, when you and I talked and, and we talked about me coming on, on your show here, I was so excited. It was the same enthusiasm I got when I used to get Letterman 'cause I was on Letterman a lot. And his show, I felt like it was-

Joe Rogan 55:41 It was a big deal.

Pauly Shore 55:41 ... it was cool.

Joe Rogan 55:42 Yeah.

Pauly Shore 55:42 So you're, you're a big deal now with this. I mean, it's pretty fucking cool. So because your show is, it trumps Colbert, it trumps Jimmy Fallon, and it jumps Jimmy Kimmel. It trumps Jimmy Kimmel Show, meaning it's a bigger deal for a guest to book, "Oh, I'm on fucking Joe Rogan." Why are you laughing? What the fuck, dude? Come on. No, it's, it's, it's a, it's a big deal. So I got super excited when I was gonna be on this like I did back in the day when, uh, I got on Letterman 'cause I was so excited to get on Letterman. I was ex- excited to come see you.

Joe Rogan 56:14 Well, I'm excited to have you here. You're, you're a good dude, Paulie, you really are. You're a very nice guy. Remember when we did that show at the MGM and afterwards we, we hung out and talked?

Pauly Shore 56:23 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 56:23 It's like, you're a good dude, man.

Pauly Shore 56:24 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 56:24 You know? I've known you a long time. It's nice to see.

Pauly Shore 56:27 Well, it's-

Joe Rogan 56:27 It's nice to see you happy. And it was really, like I said, it was really nice to see you killing on stage.

Pauly Shore 56:32 Right.

Joe Rogan 56:32 'Cause you were having fun.

Pauly Shore 56:33 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 56:33 You were so loose.

Pauly Shore 56:34 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 56:34 We were all howling. There was a bunch of comics in the back-

Pauly Shore 56:36 Oh, right.

Joe Rogan 56:36 ... laughing and that reminded me of the old days.

Pauly Shore 56:39 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 56:39 It reminded me of the OR.

Pauly Shore 56:40 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 56:40 Like when Joey Diaz would go on stage, we'd all sit in the back. (laughs)

Pauly Shore 56:43 Yeah. Mooney?

Joe Rogan 56:45 Yes, when Mooney would go on-

Pauly Shore 56:46 Mooney was the fucking best.

Joe Rogan 56:46 ... we'd all sit down. Oh my god, everyone would sit down.

Pauly Shore 56:48 Yeah, we were just fucking... Well, I threw-

Joe Rogan 56:49 Yeah.

Pauly Shore 56:49 ... everyone under the bus that show.

Joe Rogan 56:51 You threw everyone under the bus?

Pauly Shore 56:52 Well, yeah, you know, N- Nick, and, you know, I was having fun with some of your local, your local people here.

Joe Rogan 56:57 Oh, oh, oh, oh. (laughs) I was just fucking around with people. Oh, yeah, no, that was funny.

Pauly Shore 57:00 Nick from The Vulcan.

Joe Rogan 57:01 Yes, Nick from The Vulcan.

Pauly Shore 57:02 Yeah, he's a sweetheart.

Joe Rogan 57:03 He's a sweetheart.

Pauly Shore 57:04 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 57:04 Yeah. Yeah, that o-, that, uh, environment of, uh, the back booth, you know, of sitting in the b- the backseat of the comedy, he would walk in, he always like, "Who's... Oh, Eric Griffin, what's up?"

Pauly Shore 57:14 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 57:14 There was always like people sitting there.

Pauly Shore 57:15 That's how Holtzman is now when I see him.

Joe Rogan 57:17 Yeah.

Pauly Shore 57:17 Yeah, I saw him, uh, a couple weeks ago, he was really fucking nuts.

Joe Rogan 57:21 Oh, he's out of his mind.

Pauly Shore 57:22 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 57:22 He's so funny, though. He's always got the absolute wrong take on whatever the fuck has happened in the news. (laughs)

Pauly Shore 57:27 Yeah. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 57:29 It's in the most brutal way possible.

Pauly Shore 57:30 Everyone goes left, he goes right.

Joe Rogan 57:32 He goes hard.

Pauly Shore 57:33 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 57:33 He goes hard.

Pauly Shore 57:35 And-

Joe Rogan 57:35 Remember when then, uh, Susan Smith drowned her kids?

Pauly Shore 57:37 Oh, yeah.

Joe Rogan 57:38 He was on stage, like, a day later.

Pauly Shore 57:40 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 57:40 "I heard those were bad kids."

Pauly Shore 57:42 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 57:42 "I heard they sat that close to the TV, they never put away their blocks, they always spilled their milk. Those kids will not be missed." It was just so crazy-

Pauly Shore 57:51 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 57:51 ... watching him do that. We were howling.

Pauly Shore 57:53 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 57:54 Holtzman's a funny motherfucker. He's a funny motherfucker. I was wearing my Brodie she- shirt today.

Pauly Shore 58:01 Oh, wow.

Joe Rogan 58:02 I got a Brodie Positive Pusch shirt.

Pauly Shore 58:04 Yeah. Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 58:05 H- he was a funny motherfucker, man. He was a fun guy to watch at the end of the night. You know, there's so- there's a special moment-

Pauly Shore 58:12 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 58:12 ... that I only experience at The Store. And that moment is the, when The Show is old and someone kills.

Pauly Shore 58:20 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 58:20 The Store gives you this thing where you get a chance to see when The Show is old and someone goes up and kills.

Pauly Shore 58:27 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 58:27 When, when it's just like, maybe there's 25 people left-

Pauly Shore 58:30 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 58:30 ... and it's late at night, and someone just goes up and is coming in hot.

Pauly Shore 58:35 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 58:35 And they're killing for 25, 30 people.

Pauly Shore 58:37 Yeah. Rick, Rick Ingram is done really well too.

Joe Rogan 58:40 Oh, yeah.

Pauly Shore 58:41 Yeah, I'm really proud of him.

Joe Rogan 58:42 Yeah, he's opening up for Chris Rock.

Pauly Shore 58:44 Yep.

Joe Rogan 58:44 Yeah, it's amazing.

Pauly Shore 58:45 Yup, that's how Chris found him. He just-

Joe Rogan 58:47 At the store?

Pauly Shore 58:47 Yeah, he just saw him, he's like, "Fuck, let's roll."

Joe Rogan 58:49 Yeah. Mm-hmm.

Pauly Shore 58:50 And he went out there and then he took pictures with Paul McCartney.

Joe Rogan 58:53 Wow.

Pauly Shore 58:53 That's pretty cool, right?

Joe Rogan 58:54 That's pretty cool.

Pauly Shore 58:54 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 58:55 Yeah.

Pauly Shore 58:55 So, um, yeah, so...

Joe Rogan 58:58 Yeah, if you, I mean, think about all the comics that have come from that place that your mother built, what an amazing thing. I mean, so many comics over so long.

Pauly Shore 59:08 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 59:09 So long. You know, I mean, it's like so many years.

Pauly Shore 59:14 Yeah, Don Barris is doing great over there too.

Joe Rogan 59:16 Mm-hmm.

Pauly Shore 59:16 He does his Ding Dong show.

Joe Rogan 59:17 Nice.

Pauly Shore 59:18 Yeah, he's cool. So...

Joe Rogan 59:21 The thing about places like The Store too is that it used to be Ciro's.

Pauly Shore 59:24 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 59:24 It used to be another nightclub.

Pauly Shore 59:26 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 59:26 It used to have like Jerry Martin and, or Dean Martin and Jerry Lewis performed there and, you know, all these celebrities. Like, there's experiences baked into the walls-

Pauly Shore 59:35 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 59:35 ... of that place.

Pauly Shore 59:36 Do y- d- do you know how the, you know how the whole s- store started, right?

Joe Rogan 59:40 Yeah.

Pauly Shore 59:40 You know, with my father and stuff?

Joe Rogan 59:42 Mm-hmm.

Pauly Shore 59:42 You know?

Joe Rogan 59:42 Yeah.

Pauly Shore 59:43 I mean, do you, do you know a lot about my father?

Joe Rogan 59:45 Not too much.

Pauly Shore 59:46 Yeah, my father was, was-

Joe Rogan 59:47 My father was never around when I was around.

Pauly Shore 59:49 Yeah, but I'm talking about he wasn't... I mean, no one was around when he was around. I mean-

Joe Rogan 59:53 Yeah, he was never around when I was there, so it's whatever, man.

Pauly Shore 59:56 Yeah, no he, well, he, he... No, meaning he started it, you know, he, he started it, he started it with his partner Rudy DeLuca, and they, um, you know, they got the room and, and they developed it. And you know, my mom got The Store, but my dad, a lot of people don't know who he is and what he's about. If it wasn't for my father, no disrespect to my mother, but there wouldn't be an com- there wouldn't have been a Comedy Store. She might've found her way somewhere else, but he's the reason why they moved out to California.

Joe Rogan 1:00:26 Mm-hmm.

Pauly Shore 1:00:26 So he's the reason because of his career.

Joe Rogan 1:00:29 Right.

Pauly Shore 1:00:29 So he was, he was... My dad was g- uh, guest starring on, um, Sanford and Son, Sanford and Son. He played Brother Sam. He did, uh, a movie-

Joe Rogan 1:00:38 How many episodes did he do of that?

Pauly Shore 1:00:40 A couple. I mean, if you go on there you could see Sammy Shorse.

Joe Rogan 1:00:43 That's awesome.

Pauly Shore 1:00:43 Red Fo- Redd Foxx. He did-

Joe Rogan 1:00:45 I love that show. I used to watch that show with my grandfather.

Pauly Shore 1:00:46 Oh, it was the best show. It was the best show.

Joe Rogan 1:00:48 Redd Foxx.

Pauly Shore 1:00:49 Oh my god, yeah, there he is. That's my father.

Joe Rogan 1:00:52 Look at that. (laughs) That's amazing.

Pauly Shore 1:00:54 So I call him my d- I call my dad, I call my father like he's a... He, he took one for the team, meaning him and my mom never wanted to be together. So my mom got pregnant and had Scott, my oldest brother, and this was an accident. And they got married a- and she didn't want to be with him, and he didn't want to be with her, but he just sucked it up. And he was in this relationship with this woman, my mother, that he never really wanted to be in. So he, um...... he started doing, he started, you know, acting and doing all that, and then he got, you know... He, you know, he was opening for Elvis, he was opening for, you know, Sammy Davis, he was opening for, you know, all these great comedians, and, uh... Or all these great entertainers, and he started it, you know. He started the beginning of it, you know.

Joe Rogan 1:01:42 Wow.

Pauly Shore 1:01:43 You know?

Joe Rogan 1:01:43 And it was in the original room.

Pauly Shore 1:01:45 Just the original room, yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:01:46 How many... It only seat- seated less people back then, though, right?

Pauly Shore 1:01:49 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:01:50 It was like 94 people, I think it was.

Pauly Shore 1:01:51 I think it was like that, and they moved the wall.

Joe Rogan 1:01:53 Yeah.

Pauly Shore 1:01:53 But, yeah, my dad, my dad, you know, he, he, uh, he took one for the team, you know? For us.

Joe Rogan 1:01:59 Isn't it amazing if he didn't do that? If he didn't do that and then didn't give the reins to your mother-

Pauly Shore 1:02:05 Correct.

Joe Rogan 1:02:06 ... who knows what the comedy world would look like? I mean, who knows if a guy like Kinison ever gets off the ground?

Pauly Shore 1:02:11 Correct.

Joe Rogan 1:02:11 You know what I mean? Like-

Pauly Shore 1:02:12 Correct.

Joe Rogan 1:02:12 ... y- you need a place like that where it's a real artist workshop.

Pauly Shore 1:02:17 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 1:02:17 I mean, that's a highfalutin term-

Pauly Shore 1:02:19 Well-

Joe Rogan 1:02:19 ... but that's really what it is.

Pauly Shore 1:02:20 Well, that's what my mom was. That's, that's why my mom had this natural instinct to develop comedians, because it was in her veins. So, what would happen was, is my dad would... That's where my mom met my dad, is when he was performing in Elkhart Lake, Wisconsin. So my dad was the comedian for a month in Elkhart Lake, Wisconsin. He was a touring comic. And my mom started dating my father, and she got pregnant, and then he took off, and, you know, that's when that whole, you know, when the whole thing where they're gonna have the kid. And what happened is my mom would type up my dad's jokes in the back. Would type up the jokes, "This is funny. That's not funny."

Joe Rogan 1:03:00 (laughs)

Pauly Shore 1:03:00 Try this. That's not good." And then give him pointers. So, when my, my, my dad was always really nervous performing in front of my mom. So, for instance, my dad got a shot on Ed Sullivan Show. That's a, that was a big deal for him after Barbra Streisand. So it was this big shot and my mom was like, "He fucking blew it. He, you know, he's nervous. He fucked it up."

Joe Rogan 1:03:21 Ugh.

Pauly Shore 1:03:21 And it just made him more... You know, this was part of the reason why he became an alcoholic-

Joe Rogan 1:03:26 Wow.

Pauly Shore 1:03:26 ... was, you know, being nervous trying to make it. He would always kind of like, in her eyes, you know, uh... A- and if you Google my father, uh, Ed Sullivan Show, Sammy Shore, you could see photos of him. But that was a big shot for him.

Joe Rogan 1:03:39 Wow.

Pauly Shore 1:03:40 And my mom says that he blew, "He blew it. You, you su- it's not happening."

Joe Rogan 1:03:44 You ever watch the, do you ever watch the clip?

Pauly Shore 1:03:45 Yeah, I have.

Joe Rogan 1:03:46 How was the set?

Pauly Shore 1:03:46 I don't think he, I don't think he blew it. I think he did all right. Look at this.

Joe Rogan 1:03:51 Ed Sullivan.

Pauly Shore 1:03:52 Yeah. He was on there with The Stones.

Joe Rogan 1:03:54 The Rolling Stones. Oh, look at Mick Jagger. Look how amazing that looks. Give me some volume on that.

Narrator 1:04:02 I can't get no satisfaction.

Pauly Shore 1:04:02 I mean, Jesus.

Joe Rogan 1:04:03 Wow.

Pauly Shore 1:04:03 This is the '60s, dude. This was a big deal, dude.

Joe Rogan 1:04:06 Look at their faces. Listen to the girl screaming. Does anybody get that kind of reaction today?

Pauly Shore 1:04:16 Hmm.

Joe Rogan 1:04:16 They're just shrieking constantly.

Pauly Shore 1:04:20 Yeah. Yeah.

Narrator 1:04:21 ... supposed to fly my imagination.

Pauly Shore 1:04:24 So, my dad, my dad was very much like me. He just wanted to be a free spirit, just wanted to be on the road, but he got her preggers, and, um,