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Joe Rogan Experience #1981 - Pauly Shore

Pauly Shore is a stand-up comic, actor, filmmaker, and musician.  www.paulyshore.com

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Jun 27, 20242h 39mWatch on YouTube ↗

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  1. 0:001:34

    Pauly’s Mothership set: being loose, silly, and riding the room

    1. NA

      (drum roll) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out.

    2. The Joe Rogan Experience.

    3. JR

      Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. (energetic music) No, you're fine, dude.

    4. PS

      It's okay. (laughs)

    5. JR

      Come on, man. You don't have a tie... Burke crashes heads twice the size of yours-

    6. PS

      Oh, my God.

    7. JR

      ... he wears them.

    8. PS

      Okay.

    9. JR

      He can adjust it too, you poor little thing.

    10. PS

      I feel like I'm going o- up to the mothership with these things.

    11. NA

      (singing)

    12. JR

      Dude, you fucking killed at the mo- mothership.

    13. PS

      Oh, yeah.

    14. JR

      That was the funniest I've ever seen. You were so loose-

    15. PS

      Mm.

    16. JR

      ... and so silly.

    17. PS

      Mm.

    18. JR

      It was fun to see, man. It was... First of all, you could tell you were... you've been doing standup.

    19. PS

      Mm.

    20. JR

      You looked super comfortable.

    21. PS

      Mm.

    22. JR

      But you were, you were so loose.

    23. PS

      Mm. It's, you know, it's... Standup, as you know, is a rhythm, you know? And you just kind of figure it out when you're on stage, and you never know what the fuck's gonna happen.

    24. JR

      Yeah.

    25. PS

      Yeah. You just, you... That night was just, um, you know, uh, David was nice enough to let me on his show. And, um, after I s- you know, put my finger under his boob sweat-

    26. JR

      (laughs)

    27. PS

      ... I went like this. I like to do that a lot.

    28. JR

      (laughs)

    29. PS

      And then he's got sweaty brows and I did like that, and it got me excited.

    30. JR

      Pheromones.

  2. 1:344:45

    The building’s history: from the Ritz era to the Mothership renovation

    1. JR

      Well, that club was a rock and roll club.

    2. PS

      Yeah.

    3. JR

      I mean, that, that... You see the picture that's, uh, in the tunnel when you m- walk onto the stage?

    4. PS

      Yeah.

    5. JR

      When you see the big picture of Stevie Ray Vaughan?

    6. PS

      Yes.

    7. JR

      That's him performing-

    8. PS

      Wow.

    9. JR

      ... on that stage in 1983.

    10. PS

      Yeah.

    11. JR

      That's where it comes from.

    12. PS

      That's the Ala- old Alamo Drafthouse.

    13. JR

      It was only the Alamo Drafthouse from the two-

    14. PS

      Ah.

    15. JR

      I think it was like 2007 on.

    16. PS

      Okay.

    17. JR

      Before that it had been a bunch of things. It was a pool hall at one point in time.

    18. PS

      Mm-hmm.

    19. JR

      It was a, a nudie movie theater at one point in time.

    20. PS

      Yeah.

    21. JR

      It was a punk rock club.

    22. PS

      Yeah.

    23. JR

      Like all the posters that you see that are in the green room-

    24. PS

      Mm-hmm.

    25. JR

      ... that are in the... Those are all posters of people performing at the Ritz.

    26. PS

      Mm.

    27. JR

      It's all like the Misfits-

    28. PS

      Oh, so it was the Ritz before the-

    29. JR

      Yes.

    30. PS

      ... before the Alamo.

  3. 4:456:57

    Austin’s comedy ecosystem: reps, stage time, and phone-free rooms

    1. JR

      Been doing a lot of sets. And moving out to here-

    2. PS

      Mm-hmm.

    3. JR

      ... it, it kind of changed everything-

    4. PS

      Mm-hmm.

    5. JR

      ... because I... first of all, I realized how important the store was.

    6. PS

      Mm.

    7. JR

      Like, I knew I was gonna live out here, but that, uh, having a community-

    8. PS

      Mm.

    9. JR

      ... and having a place where you get to see people do sets all the time, and you w- you work with killers, like all the time... On the road, the thing is you don't really work with other people that much. You work with the two people that you bring with you or one person they bring with you, and you're not like g- in the mix-

    10. PS

      Mm.

    11. JR

      ... with all the killers. And I think that that's very critical to what we do.

    12. PS

      Well, that's what you've done out here, you know, seeing-

    13. JR

      Yeah, that was, that was the thing to do. It was like the thing to do. It was like it w- there were so many comics that had decided to move here-

    14. PS

      Mm.

    15. JR

      ... and a lot of them knew that I, uh, I tried to do it at another place and it didn't work out. And so that was like a big delay-

    16. PS

      Mm-hmm.

    17. JR

      ... that, that took like an extra year.

    18. PS

      Yeah.

    19. JR

      It took a long ass time.

    20. PS

      Yeah, I mean, um, Hans, Montgomery, David Lucas, these, these... you know, working with Tony and just seeing these guys grow and now they're fucking headlining shows.

    21. JR

      Yeah.

    22. PS

      I mean it's fucking, it's dope.

    23. JR

      Derek Poston.

    24. PS

      D- Derek-

    25. JR

      You've seen Derek-

    26. PS

      ... Derrick-

    27. JR

      ... and Hasan Ahmad.

    28. PS

      Yeah.

    29. JR

      Those guys are killing it.

    30. PS

      Yeah.

  4. 6:5710:11

    Phone addiction, Pauly’s therapy work, and reframing trauma

    1. JR

      One of the things I've learned from doing this podcast (clears throat) is that it's really the only time during the day where I get to sit for a few hours and not look at my phone.

    2. PS

      Mm. Yeah.

    3. JR

      Where I'm not- I'm always just checking my email, checking my text message, responding to text message I haven't responded to yet, trying to keep up with email.

    4. PS

      Yeah. Yeah, I just did-

    5. JR

      It's like- it's-

    6. PS

      Yeah, I-

    7. JR

      ... overwhelming.

    8. PS

      Yeah, I just did a five-day pretty intense group therapy that I've been involved with since I was 19 years old, and, uh, deals with a lot of, um, trauma, different things like that. And I'm actually a- a staff that kinda help people out with the stuff they- they go through. In- in- in return, when you help people out, you get help too.

    9. JR

      Mm.

    10. PS

      Like for instance, for me, um, you know, I've been doing it since I was 19. Um, and it's a five-day program, and it just helped me deal with the trauma, you know, my parents- my parents passing and, um, you know, just different things that have happened personally in my life. Because, you know, um, I know when I was on here last time, I was talking about the career and this and that, and all these different things. And, you know, a lot of those things that, you know, happen to us as people and people listening aren't who we are. It's kinda w- it's- it's circumst- things that have happened to us that we become angry or become sad, or we become depressed. But it's not who we are, because who we are are- are we start off with i- as innocent babies. You know, we go into the world and all these fucked up things kind of happen to us. And, you know, the- the- the stuff with my family and the store and my mom, you know, I- I'm not just a whatever guy. I'm not Donald Trump. You know what I mean? Even though probably underneath it, he's probably fucked up. But I don't ha-

    11. JR

      (laughs)

    12. PS

      But, you know, but as far as being-

    13. JR

      You're the turtle shell. Yeah.

    14. PS

      Yeah.

    15. JR

      Yeah.

    16. PS

      I have this emotion, I got that from my mom and my dad. Um, and, um, and it's hard.

    17. JR

      Yeah.

    18. PS

      You know what I mean? It's hard. Um, but so I'm- I'm- I'm- I feel pretty good, and, um, man, it's- it's difficult. But, you know, I wanna look- I wanna look into the future my next 30 years, and I just wanna try to be joyful. And, you know, and- and m- my thing is ha- half full. You know, a lot of us in life, we always look at other people, and we're always like going, you know, oh, like I can look at Adam Sandler. I can look at all these guys that are just, you know... Or I can, you know, look at the fact of what I have.

    19. JR

      Yeah.

    20. PS

      You know?

    21. JR

      Yeah.

    22. PS

      And- and it's- and- and I'm not the only one. I think everyone should, you know, think about that, because especially like you said, with social media, everyone compares themself, how many people are watching-

    23. JR

      Right.

    24. PS

      ... how many people like us and all that shit. And it's just-

    25. JR

      Yeah, that's so fucked up for kids, 'cause they're- they're just constantly comparing each other's likes and, you know, who, you know, who's got more followers, and they're all competing against each other. Then you- then- then you hear about these kids-

    26. PS

      Mm.

    27. JR

      ... that are like YouTube stars, that are 14, 15 years old.

    28. PS

      Mm-hmm.

    29. JR

      And they've got millions of followers. Like what's the youngest YouTube star that has like a giant following? Those kids are essentially getting like-

    30. PS

      In a TikTok.

  5. 10:1115:15

    Booking the show, podcast origins, and interviewing as a craft

    1. PS

      Yeah. But what about- what about you? I mean, you're- you're- you've really like, I mean, you've, I mean, you know, I've seen it. Everyone has seen it. You've just really... I mean, you've- how do people- how do people get to you? It's difficult, right?

    2. JR

      (laughs)

    3. PS

      No, but you know what I'm saying?

    4. NA

      Yeah, yeah.

    5. PS

      Like how do you... Like for instance, like you don't have a booker on this show.

    6. JR

      Well, I do. But- but-

    7. PS

      Oh, you do?

    8. JR

      ... I don't, like, I choose.

    9. PS

      Yeah, you're the booker, right?

    10. JR

      Yeah. But it's not like someone like picks the line up-

    11. PS

      Yeah.

    12. JR

      ... and then I go over it with them. No.

    13. PS

      So like for instance, like Nicolas Cage is my next-door neighbor in Las Vegas. Like he's a friend. I've known him for many years. Like how would he get to you if he wanted to be on the show?

    14. JR

      Oh, love to have him on. I love that guy.

    15. PS

      Yeah.

    16. JR

      He's awesome.

    17. PS

      He's like-

    18. JR

      I saw a video they did about his house in Vegas with this lady.

    19. PS

      Oh yeah, 60 Minutes, right?

    20. JR

      Yeah, yeah.

    21. PS

      Yeah.

    22. JR

      Yeah, yeah. He's awesome. I love that guy. I met him once a long time ago at a boxing gym.

    23. PS

      Yeah.

    24. JR

      He was there with his son.

    25. PS

      Yeah.

    26. JR

      His son was taking lessons at this, uh, boxing gym-

    27. PS

      Right.

    28. JR

      ... that I used to work out in Hollywood.

    29. PS

      Yeah.

    30. JR

      Super nice guy.

  6. 15:1517:23

    Politics and cities: ‘not red,’ ideology backlash, and the LA homeless crisis

    1. PS

      Yeah, and then as far as, um, as far as living out here now, um, being in, um, in Austin. Austin is very... I don't wanna s- use the word liberal, but there's a lot of hipsters and people with skinny jeans.

    2. JR

      Yeah.

    3. PS

      And that stuff.

    4. JR

      It's a-

    5. PS

      Is it weird being... 'Cause I don't wanna say you're red or you're not red 'cause I don't fucking know.

    6. JR

      (laughs)

    7. PS

      Most people think you're red.

    8. JR

      Yeah.

    9. PS

      Is it like you're, you're r- wait. You're red living in a blue city in a red state.

    10. JR

      Th- that is, uh, this is a blue city.

    11. PS

      Incorrect.

    12. JR

      But I'm not really red.

    13. PS

      That's what I don't think either.

    14. JR

      I'm just... No, no.

    15. PS

      Yeah.

    16. JR

      I've, I've never voted Republican in my life.

    17. PS

      Right.

    18. JR

      Yeah, I think that the both systems suck, and I think, um, that what, what I'm pushing back against is the crazy ideologies. It has nothing to do with universal basic income. It has nothing to do with welfare. It has nothing to do with, um, funding community programs and cleaning up cities. Like, I'm all for all that stuff. I'm even for higher taxes if I believe the government was competent with your money.

    19. PS

      Hmm.

    20. JR

      And it's not... I'm not.

    21. PS

      Yeah.

    22. JR

      Like, uh, higher... If, if, if it's higher taxes and it, and it proves that we have less crime and the world's a safer place, that would be great. But that doesn't seem like they know how to do that. It doe-... What it seems like when you give a lot of money to the government, they create a lot of government jobs, and those government jobs make those people a lot of money. When we looked into the, the homeless sis- uh, situation in LA.

    23. PS

      Hmm.

    24. JR

      And it's... My, my friend, Kolian Noir told me about this because he's a lawyer, and he went to San Francisco. When he was in San Francisco, he was talking to someone. He's like, "Why haven't they fixed the homeless thing? Is it, like, a funding issue?" And the guy was like, "No, it's the opposite."

    25. PS

      Yeah.

    26. JR

      "They make so much money." The people that are m- w- in charge of dealing with the homeless situation, some of them are making more than $200,000 a year.

    27. PS

      Hmm.

    28. JR

      Like, $240,000 a year, and the homeless thing just keeps getting worse.

    29. PS

      So what do you... What do you think it is?

    30. JR

      It's a-

  7. 17:2323:30

    Solutions: mental health institutions, AA analogies, and psychedelic therapy (ibogaine)

    1. JR

      You know, it all started during, during the Reagan administration-

    2. PS

      Hmm.

    3. JR

      ... I believe. Check if this is true. I think during the Reagan administration, they changed what, like, they can do in terms of, like, mental health institutes. They decided to, like, let people out.

    4. PS

      Hmm.

    5. JR

      Instead of... Like, there's certain people that just... They have to be cared for, you know?

    6. PS

      Yeah.

    7. JR

      They're so compromised that in a, a, a good, just society-

    8. PS

      Yeah.

    9. JR

      ... you would care for those people, and there would be a dedicated place, just like there's a dedicated piece- place for people who have bad knees.

    10. PS

      Hmm.

    11. JR

      You go and you get surgery.

    12. PS

      Hmm.

    13. JR

      You know, they don't go, "F- fucking walk it off, pussy."

    14. PS

      Yeah.

    15. JR

      "Hobble around."

    16. PS

      Yeah.

    17. JR

      No, they, they have a place that's dedicated.

    18. PS

      Yeah. No, it's similar to AA, right?

    19. JR

      Hmm.

    20. PS

      I mean, AA is pretty much a, a place, you know, for... We all have friends that are in AA.

    21. JR

      Mm-hmm.

    22. PS

      And they go there, and they ha- they have... What is it, the 10-step rules? Uh-

    23. JR

      12. Yeah, 12 steps.

    24. PS

      Or 12 steps how... What not-

    25. JR

      Yeah.

    26. PS

      ... to do when you physically walk in a bar.

    27. JR

      So here it is. 1981, President Ronald Reagan, who had made major efforts during his governorship, governorship to reduce funding and en- enlistment for California mental institutions.... pushed a political effort through the US Congress to repeal most of MHSA. The MHSA was considered landmark legislation in mental health care policy. So, I think what happened was when that MHSA Act got passed in 1980, what, what happened was they just started letting people out in the streets.

    28. PS

      Mm.

    29. JR

      When I was a boy, I remember-

    30. PS

      Mm.

  8. 23:3026:55

    Mitzi Shore’s Parkinson’s, stem cells, and ‘medical tourism’ stories

    1. PS

      Yeah. My mom, um, when she started to get sick with, uh, Parkinson's, we took her to, uh, to, um... It was at the Bahamas and she got, uh, fetal cells injected in her. Uh-

    2. JR

      Yeah.

    3. PS

      And that was something that she was, um, you know, she was, uh, very sh- she believed very strongly that, you know, putting ba- she was like, "Put some baby cells in me."

    4. JR

      (laughs)

    5. PS

      (laughs) You know, "Put s- put some fetu-" Dude, it was fucking insane.

    6. JR

      Ugh.

    7. PS

      It was like me and Bob Wheeler, The Comedy Store, uh, accountant over there, we flew down to the Bahamas 'cause you couldn't do it here.

    8. JR

      Where did they get the baby tissue?

    9. PS

      I don't know, dude. It was... We, but we... I remember it like it was yesterday. So we drove in a... You know, the, the, the doctor and my mom paid like 20 grand or 10 or 15, whatever it was.

    10. JR

      Right.

    11. PS

      And they... You know, within that y- the package deal is, is the, the, the flight, the hotel, and then the baby fetuses.

    12. JR

      (laughs)

    13. PS

      So, um, we went down there-

    14. JR

      Oh, my God.

    15. PS

      ... and, um, and a car picked us up. It had a sign, Mitzi Shore. And, uh, and, and w- we went in there and we went, and then we drove her the next morning, and we put her in a room with a doctor, and they injected her with fetal cells. But I personally... 'cause she had Parkinson's for a while. I personally think it actually helped her. You know, I think it prolonged... You know, because if you put the, the, the, the, um, the baby cells in there, they're obviously baby cells.

    16. JR

      (laughs)

    17. PS

      Sh- Why is that so funny? You don't-

    18. JR

      It's just so fucked up to think of. But that, uh, uh...

    19. PS

      She did it a couple times.

    20. JR

      They, there has... They've been shown with stem cells, just, uh, all kinds of stem cells, that, um, there's-

    21. PS

      Put the baby in me. What are you doing? Put it... Stop fucking around.

    22. JR

      Is that what she said?

    23. PS

      Put it in me. Let's go.

    24. JR

      (laughs)

    25. PS

      You know what I mean?

    26. JR

      That's such your mom.

    27. PS

      It's so funny.

    28. JR

      Oh, your mom was the best.

    29. PS

      Yeah.

    30. JR

      I tell everybody that your mom was the number one-

  9. 26:5532:49

    Urology detour: Rezūm procedure, catheters, and bodily comedy

    1. PS

      You know what I did have? I did have a, uh, bladder surgery.

    2. JR

      Yeah?

    3. PS

      Yeah, I did.

    4. JR

      What happened to your bladder?

    5. PS

      I was just peeing a lot.

    6. JR

      Was it leaky or something?

    7. PS

      No, it wasn't leaky. What happened was, I would go pee at night, and then my bladder wouldn't, um, it wouldn't empty.

    8. JR

      Hmm.

    9. PS

      So I'd go pee, and then I lied back down. I'm like, "Fuck, I still have more pee." And I would do that four or five times in the middle of the night. And then I finally went, um, I went and got a, uh, um... I went to my doctor, and he sent me up with a urologist in the, uh, at Cedars, and he was this gay dude. And imagine that, a gay urologist, and this isn't a joke. This is real. And, um, he's like, "Let me see your dick."

    10. JR

      (laughs)

    11. PS

      I'm like, "Dude, that's not fucking cool." "Come on, let me see it!"

    12. JR

      (laughs)

    13. PS

      The fuck?

    14. JR

      (laughs)

    15. PS

      And so I showed him my dick. He's like, "Ooh."

    16. JR

      (laughs)

    17. PS

      I'm like, "What the fuck?" No.

    18. JR

      (laughs)

    19. PS

      So, so I did a, uh, a, a procedure called Rezum. So, if you don't believe me, uh, it's... You can-

    20. JR

      Why would I not believe you?

    21. PS

      Well, I'm just saying-

    22. JR

      (laughs)

    23. PS

      ... 'cause it doesn't sound-

    24. JR

      Doesn't sound real.

    25. PS

      Doesn't sound real.

    26. JR

      ... like you met an alien. (laughs)

    27. PS

      It doesn't... (laughs) But it's Rezum. I said, I said, I go, "What does this do?" He goes, "Well, once you do the procedure, then you resume how you used to pee before you had a pee problem." So, uh, you wake up in the m- Uh, they, they steam your prostate, and-

    28. JR

      Steam it.

    29. PS

      They steam it. Yeah.

    30. JR

      Press it.

  10. 32:4940:23

    Building a comedy capital: club ownership, operations, and dialing in the rooms

    1. JR

      Thank you. Well, that was the whole ... I mean, it worked out better than I thought it could.

    2. PS

      It's-

    3. JR

      But that was kind of the idea.

    4. PS

      And I think it was kinda cool that ... I mean, not kinda cool, but I think just ... Obviously everything is up to the sky, upstairs, but I think the two year kind of building up to it got your guys better, got everyone better working at the Vulcan.

    5. JR

      Mm-hmm.

    6. PS

      And, and working around town, and you know, it was this-

    7. JR

      For sure.

    8. PS

      It was this pimple that everyone's developing and developing and then finally, boom, the Mothership came, and then, boom, everyone's like, boom, and now it's just ba-ba-ba-ba-boom.

    9. JR

      Yeah.

    10. PS

      And it's this thing, yeah.

    11. JR

      Well, and also that everybody had kinda shared my sentiments about getting out, like Tom Segura-

    12. PS

      Mm-hmm.

    13. JR

      ... was one of the first. Tony Hinchcliffe was one of the first.

    14. PS

      Mm-hmm.

    15. JR

      I think Tony came out first. Ron White was actually already here before the pandemic and it was also one of the reasons why I loved it 'cause he was always telling me, he's like, "It's the best fucking city."

    16. PS

      Mm.

    17. JR

      "You ain't gotta deal with all the bullshit you deal with in Hollywood."

    18. PS

      Mm-hmm.

    19. JR

      And, you know, he would always talk so great about this town.

    20. PS

      Well, I think what you're doing for comedy is great. I mean, you're creating a, this emerald city for New York and LA and, and people to come out here, and, and you got all these stages, and it's great. And then also, uh, Red Band started a club too.

    21. JR

      Yeah, right down the street.

    22. PS

      That's cool.

    23. JR

      Yeah. Well-

    24. PS

      Yeah.

    25. JR

      ... it was this club that already exists-

    26. PS

      Mm-hmm.

    27. JR

      ... and he, he bought into it as an investor and, um, they're, um ... They have a really nice room that's like ... I think it's like 500 seats right down the street.

    28. PS

      Yeah. And I think it's great because I remember coming back, um, coming to Austin in the '90s when I was touring and, and everyone remembers Austin 6th Street music.

    29. JR

      Yeah.

    30. PS

      Austin 6th Street music, and now it's slowly starting to be comedy is the first thing and then music is the second thing, and it's great. I think, you know, I think-

  11. 40:231:13:23

    Comedy Store origin stories: Kinison, Westwood chaos, and Pauly’s upbringing

    1. JR

      Dude, you, you're, you got babysitted (laughs) by Sam Kinison. It's one of the funniest stories of all time. (laughs) Like, what a crazy thing your mom did.

    2. PS

      It was, yeah.

    3. JR

      She left you as a little child as one of the most maniacal comedians that's ever existed. (laughs)

    4. PS

      Well, it wasn't, it wasn't exactly like that. It was more-

    5. JR

      What was it like?

    6. PS

      Well, it was more like Sam was... I was 14 years old. I was a short order cook at The Comedy Store in Westwood. My mom would put Sam on last 'cause all he would do is scream and then he would literally... You know, there'd be six people left in the room in Westwood and he'd throw the stools, he'd throw the... his stool at the audience members, they'd scamper off, he'd smoke weed in the parking lot, and then he would, um... You know, I'd feed him hamburgers. So I kind of just... I was always taking care of comedians. And-

    7. JR

      What year was this?

    8. PS

      This was, uh, probably '84, eightif- '84, '85. I was in high school. Yeah.

    9. JR

      So he really hit in '86.

    10. PS

      Yes.

    11. JR

      That's when he really hit.

    12. PS

      Yeah. Yeah. So-

    13. JR

      Did, did I ever tell you my story how I found out about him?

    14. PS

      It's probably Boston with Parenteau or something.

    15. JR

      No. A girl that I worked with at the Boston Athletic Club.

    16. PS

      Mm-hmm.

    17. JR

      Gosh, g- still to this day I can't remember her fucking name. She was really cool though. She was this big volleyball player girl. Like, just-

    18. PS

      Mm-hmm.

    19. JR

      ... big athletic girl. And, uh, s- she goes to me, she goes, "Have you seen Sam Kinisman? Sam Kinison?" Whatever his name was. Um, I go, "No, I haven't." And so she acts out in the parking lot-

    20. PS

      Oh, wow.

    21. JR

      ... the whole bit about him, uh, like-

    22. PS

      Ethiopia or something.

    23. JR

      No, no, no. The, the, uh-

    24. PS

      Homosexual necrophilia.

    25. JR

      Homosexual necrophiliacs-

    26. PS

      Yeah. Oh, God. Oh, oh, God.

    27. JR

      ... having sex with him. Yeah.

    28. PS

      Yeah, yeah.

    29. JR

      She acted it out-

    30. PS

      Right.

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