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Joe Rogan Experience #1983 - Kim Congdon & Sara Weinshenk

Joe Rogan and Sara Weinshenk on comedians, Conspiracies, and Chaos: Joe Rogan’s Wild Hang With Besties.

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Jul 2, 20243h 17mWatch on YouTube ↗

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  1. 0:00 – 1:52

    Kill Tony origins, Tony Hinchcliffe’s hosting, and why some comics are “unwritable”

    1. JR

      (drumming music) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out.

    2. NA

      The Joe Rogan Experience.

    3. Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. (rock music) Hey, we're rolling. Hi, ladies.

    4. SW

      Hi.

    5. KC

      Hi.

    6. JR

      What's happening?

    7. SW

      What's up?

    8. JR

      Good to see you. Class of, uh, zero ... What, what number were you guys of, of Tony, Kill Tony? You guys are class of one-

    9. KC

      We were-

    10. JR

      Class of zero to one.

    11. KC

      OGs, yeah. OGs.

    12. JR

      Yeah, the real OGs.

    13. KC

      Yep.

    14. JR

      Isn't it wild to see what it's become now?

    15. KC

      (laughs)

    16. JR

      I mean, it's literally like the number one live comedy show ever.

    17. SW

      It's insane.

    18. KC

      It's insane. We started so long ago. That's where we met, her and I.

    19. SW

      Yeah, we've met-

    20. KC

      And we've been working together ever since.

    21. JR

      Besties.

    22. KC

      Yeah, so, uh-

    23. JR

      I've said it before but I'll say it again, Tony's the greatest host of any comedy show ever.

    24. KC

      I know.

    25. JR

      He's the best.

    26. SW

      Yeah, he does really good. Yeah.

    27. JR

      Nobody's better off the cuff.

    28. KC

      I know. Yeah.

    29. JR

      Off the cuff?

    30. SW

      Amazing. He's so fast, he's so quick. And you know, we l- owe a lot to him, I feel like, because he really helped us get our start. We learned a lot from being on that show.

  2. 1:52 – 4:44

    Trader Joe’s “alien grocery store” snacks and a Bronx sandwich pilgrimage

    1. KC

      Theo Von is like how Trader Joe's makes snacks. (laughs)

    2. SW

      (laughs)

    3. JR

      (laughs) How does Trader Joe's ... I don't know.

    4. SW

      What do you mean?

    5. KC

      It's just like p- uh, it's like, it's like popcorn, but it's also like a chicken salad and you're like, "What?"

    6. SW

      (laughs)

    7. JR

      (laughs)

    8. KC

      And it, but it works and you're like, "I love this."

    9. SW

      (laughs)

    10. KC

      (laughs)

    11. JR

      That's hilarious. I didn't know about Trader Joe's snacks.

    12. KC

      Oh, Trader Joe's-

    13. SW

      Oh.

    14. KC

      ... they say that the s- the food at Trader Joe's seems like it's Trader Joe's was made by an alien who didn't really fully understand grocery stores.

    15. JR

      Oh.

    16. KC

      All the food is like really weird. It's just like weird combinations.

    17. SW

      Yeah, no, they have like this, uh, it's like sweet, sour, salty something popcorn. It's four different experiences. It's a ... They gotta get it streamlined.

    18. KC

      It's made by ChatGPT, for sure.

    19. SW

      Either savory or sweet. Don't mix it all up like that.

    20. JR

      Yeah, what are you trying to do to people?

    21. KC

      Sick.

    22. SW

      TJs.

    23. JR

      Yeah. I try to eat healthy for the most part, but when we were in, uh, New York this past weekend, we went to the Bronx.

    24. SW

      I saw that sandwich.

    25. KC

      (laughs)

    26. JR

      Oh my God.

    27. KC

      (laughs)

    28. SW

      (laughs)

    29. JR

      We, we ate at this place, G&R Deli. Holy shit.

    30. SW

      Mm-hmm.

  3. 4:44 – 5:50

    Diet philosophy, carnivore experiment, and traveling for food (plus Muay Thai dreams)

    1. KC

      What, like do you ... So do you always give yourself a, a break or do you ever go super strict and go like no snacks, nothing good for-

    2. SW

      Yeah, tell us your regimen.

    3. JR

      No, no, no, no, there's n- there's no, no super strict diet.

    4. KC

      Everything in moderation.

    5. JR

      Yeah, I did one month I did c- the carnivore diet, like very strict for one month to see what it was like. And I lost a lot of fat, but it was boring. I like food. I like f-

    6. KC

      And a lot of meat like that.

    7. JR

      I like that. I like these people. I like their food, their culture.

    8. KC

      Yeah. Yeah, it's an experience.

    9. JR

      I like food. Yeah. I like Vietnamese food.

    10. KC

      Ah.

    11. JR

      I like Thai food.

    12. KC

      Mm-hmm.

    13. JR

      I like food.

    14. KC

      Food's the best.

    15. JR

      I like ... It's, it's-

    16. KC

      It's the-

    17. JR

      ... hard.

    18. KC

      ... it's almost the best reason to travel is to try the different foods.

    19. JR

      It's a, it's a great reason to travel. Like it makes tra ... Like travel is awesome, but travel and then eating people's food, like eating Thai food in Thailand was fucking amazing.

    20. KC

      Ugh.

    21. SW

      We gotta-

    22. KC

      Yes.

    23. SW

      ... go.

    24. JR

      Thailand's awesome.

    25. KC

      Yeah.

    26. SW

      We wanna go.

    27. JR

      You guys should go and do some fucking Muay Thai. Let's go.

    28. KC

      I know.

    29. SW

      Yeah. (laughs)

    30. JR

      Come on, Kim Congs.

  4. 5:50 – 9:27

    Zuckerberg’s jiu-jitsu medal, celebrity competitors, and tournament belt reality

    1. JR

      Did you see Mark Zuckerberg won a gold medal in a Brazilian jiu-jitsu competition?

    2. SW

      No.

    3. JR

      Mark Zuckerberg is a fucking savage.

    4. SW

      No. (laughs)

    5. KC

      Can you imagine?

    6. JR

      This dude has been training jiu-jitsu ... This is what he did. He wore a COVID mask and he fucking put a hat on and he hid.

    7. KC

      No.

    8. JR

      ... and he used an alias.

    9. SW

      He secretly shrunk me.

    10. JR

      Can you imagine? You're right about to compete, and like, maybe your first competition, "Well, I'll just give it a try. I mean, what's the worst thing that could happen?"

    11. SW

      (laughs)

    12. JR

      Worst thing that could happen is you get strangled by a super nerd.

    13. SW

      By Mark-

    14. JR

      In front of the whole world.

    15. SW

      By Mark Zuckerberg?

    16. JR

      Yeah.

    17. SW

      That's so embarrassing.

    18. JR

      He's awesome. I'm very proud of him.

    19. SW

      That's wild.

    20. JR

      I think that's, I think it's amazing. It's amazing that he, he did that. There are a few people who have done that. Mario Lopez did that. Um, uh, what's his name?

    21. SW

      Ashton Kutcher.

    22. JR

      Tom, uh, Bane.

    23. GU

      (tapping) Tom Hardy.

    24. JR

      Tom Hardy. Tom Hardy did that-

    25. SW

      Hot.

    26. JR

      ... a couple times. Hot?

    27. SW

      Hot. (laughs)

    28. JR

      Undeniable.

    29. SW

      Wood. Hot.

    30. JR

      Undeniable. You see him in Warrior?

  5. 9:27 – 13:36

    Podcast branding wars: “Shank,” “Shanky and Your Ear,” and why “This Bitch” works

    1. GU

      Get shanked.

    2. JR

      Actually, that's a great name for a podcast.

    3. SW

      Shanky and Your Ear? (laughs)

    4. GU

      Shanky and Your Ear?

    5. JR

      Yeah. It's good, right?

    6. SW

      (laughs)

    7. GU

      It does make me laugh.

    8. JR

      It's got a catchy ring to it.

    9. SW

      Yeah.

    10. GU

      Shanky and Your Ear.

    11. JR

      Yeah, if you ever wanna do a fucking solo spinoff, and then we gotta do the King, Kim K-... You remember when Kiss did a spinoff?

    12. GU

      Yeah.

    13. JR

      Kiss had like... I don't know if you remember this. Do you remember this?

    14. GU

      That they did a show?

    15. JR

      No.

    16. GU

      Oh.

    17. JR

      Kiss, Kiss the band, at one point in time-

    18. GU

      Yeah, I thought they did a reality show.

    19. JR

      ... they all re-... Oh, I'm sure they did that, too.

    20. SW

      They did.

    21. JR

      But they all released their own albums. Like, Peter Criss had his solo album.

    22. SW

      Yeah, yeah.

    23. GU

      Oh.

    24. JR

      Paul Stanley had his solo album.

    25. GU

      Oh, shit.

    26. JR

      Gene Simmons had his solo album. Ace Frehley had his solo album. And they all just sorta competed with each other's song-

    27. GU

      Do you want us to break up?

    28. SW

      (laughs)

    29. JR

      I'm not saying that.

    30. GU

      He said-

  6. 13:36 – 19:40

    Pandemic comedy survival: solo pods, Zoom shows, and the weirdness hangover

    1. SW

      Even like during the pandemic, I would just be talking by myself in the room.

    2. KC

      (laughs)

    3. JR

      (laughs)

    4. SW

      I'm like, "If I was gonna have a threesome," by myself 'cause I was a f- 'cause we didn't know if we could hang out with people.

    5. JR

      Well, the good news is Alexa was listening.

    6. KC

      (laughs)

    7. SW

      So... (laughs)

    8. KC

      And your boyfriend, Mark.

    9. SW

      Oh, yeah. My boyfriend, Mark, oh, hears everything.

    10. KC

      (laughs)

    11. JR

      So you were talking to yourself with him in the same...

    12. SW

      About-

    13. JR

      ... place?

    14. SW

      I was talking to myself, uh, uh, like just trying to buy up time on a 45-minute solo pod.

    15. KC

      (laughs)

    16. JR

      Oh. (laughs)

    17. SW

      And, uh, I started talking about cartoon threesomes.

    18. KC

      (laughs)

    19. SW

      'Cause I'm straight out of content.

    20. JR

      Ugh.

    21. SW

      I'm like, "Okay, Betty Boop would."

    22. KC

      (laughs)

    23. SW

      Uh, Felix the Cat...

    24. JR

      I think that's a, a particularly unique muscle that like Bill Burr has and Tim Dillon has.

    25. SW

      Yes.

    26. JR

      And Giannis Popis has. There's people that can just rant about a subject-

    27. SW

      And go on, really good at that.

    28. JR

      ... just by themselves solo.

    29. SW

      Yeah.

    30. JR

      That's hard to do.

  7. 19:40 – 24:40

    Masks, goggles, and bee-sting folklore: viruses through the eyes and weird cures

    1. SW

      During the pandemic, did you see Jamar? Jamar had on, like, big goggles and he was... He went to the CVS-

    2. KC

      (laughs)

    3. JR

      (laughs)

    4. SW

      ... and he got kicked out of the CVS 'cause he had on, like, snorkel, snorkeling gear.

    5. KC

      (laughs)

    6. SW

      (laughs)

    7. JR

      How come you can't do that? I think you can do that.

    8. KC

      I mean-

    9. JR

      You know, you know what someone told me?

    10. SW

      (laughs)

    11. KC

      That's so funny.

    12. JR

      Someone told me...

    13. KC

      (laughs)

    14. JR

      ... that you can, you catch respiratory viruses from your eyeballs. Is that true?

    15. KC

      Ugh. I don't know, but you know what someone told me? They got st- uh, that their grandpa got stung in the eye by a bee and it cured his diabetes.

    16. SW

      What? (laughs)

    17. JR

      That sounds like some folklore. (laughs)

    18. SW

      No. What are you talking about?

    19. KC

      No, I'm thinking about-

    20. JR

      That's, that's some fucking Appalachia-

    21. KC

      Beekeepers, beekeepers live longer than, like, the average person.

    22. JR

      Oh.

    23. KC

      Because they get stung and stuff and it's interesting.

    24. SW

      Where did you learn this?

    25. KC

      And if you have Lyme disease, there's people that take bees and they put it into their s- into their backs and it helps all their symptoms.

    26. JR

      Interesting.

    27. KC

      There's something about bee stings.

    28. JR

      I have heard people getting a positive benefit from bee stings, but I k-... I think it was arthritis.

    29. KC

      Don't come for me, big pharma.

    30. SW

      (laughs)

  8. 24:40 – 28:43

    Psychedelics, microdosing utopias, and MDMA-assisted therapy for trauma

    1. SW

      I think the mushrooms are kicking in. (laughs)

    2. JR

      (laughs)

    3. KC

      (laughs)

    4. SW

      You know what I hate? I hate when Kim takes mushrooms because then she won't let me talk shit about guys.

    5. JR

      Oh.

    6. SW

      She'll be like, "He's just a man."

    7. KC

      I, oh, yeah, she'll-

    8. SW

      (laughs)

    9. KC

      ... call me and I'll be like, "Well, maybe he went through something." (laughs)

    10. SW

      And I'll be like, "Oh, you're on mushrooms." (laughs)

    11. JR

      Ugh.

    12. KC

      Yeah.

    13. SW

      (laughs)

    14. KC

      It stops the gossip for me.

    15. SW

      "We're all just people." And I go, "Okay, yeah, that's true."

    16. JR

      It is true. If every, imagine if everybody was on mushrooms and that was just, like, the prevalent attitude.

    17. SW

      Yeah. You, you wouldn't care if you've been wronged 'cause-

    18. JR

      Isn't it crazy that if it, like, as a mass experiment, like, if everybody just took a dose, just a minor dose.

    19. SW

      Can I have some more?

    20. JR

      A minor dose. What do you want? That stuff?

    21. KC

      (clears throat) Yeah.

    22. JR

      Don't say what that is on the air.

    23. KC

      Okay.

    24. JR

      Put that away.

    25. SW

      Okay.

    26. JR

      Jesus Christ. Gonna get us all in trouble.

    27. KC

      No, it's nothing.

    28. JR

      If, if there was, like, legal psilocybin-

    29. KC

      Mm-hmm.

    30. JR

      ... and it was regulated so you knew what it was-

  9. 28:43 – 33:32

    Weed legality absurdities: Delta-9, accidental “crack weed,” and comedian drug stereotypes

    1. JR

      We're in 2023.

    2. SW

      ... how are they illegal, but, like, Delta, that weird t-

    3. JR

      Delta 9?

    4. SW

      ... is legal? Like, how is that a thing?

    5. JR

      (exhales) I don't know. That's a weird high.

    6. SW

      I haven't smoked it.

    7. JR

      It's like a neighbor of weed. It's like, "I'm weed's neighbor. I'm gonna tell you what you can't see."

    8. SW

      (laughs)

    9. KC

      (laughs)

    10. JR

      It's like-

    11. KC

      "Come on in. Weed will be here soon."

    12. JR

      (laughs)

    13. SW

      (laughs)

    14. KC

      You're like, "Will it?"

    15. JR

      And it doesn't seem like, it doesn't seem like it has any of the ideas that weed has.

    16. KC

      Yeah.

    17. JR

      It's like it just repeats weed's ideas.

    18. KC

      (laughs)

    19. JR

      And not, it doesn't do such a good job of telling them, "Well, one time when he was 13-

    20. KC

      (laughs)

    21. JR

      ... his big stepdaddy was a real piece of shit." Anyway.

    22. SW

      (laughs)

    23. KC

      (laughs) Oh, weed makes you uncomfortable.

    24. JR

      Yeah.

    25. KC

      You don't wanna stay for d- or, Delta. It makes you uncomfortable.

    26. JR

      It makes me, like, whoa. It just, it's a odd, it's an odd thing.

    27. KC

      I-

    28. JR

      It's, it's weird that they can do that, though. It's weird that that's legal.

    29. KC

      Yeah.

    30. JR

      Yeah.

  10. 33:32 – 39:39

    Cannabis history and hemp’s suppressed potential: propaganda, textiles, and the “billion-dollar crop”

    1. JR

      Do you guys know the story of Jack Herer?

    2. SW

      Oh, the- the-

    3. JR

      The emperor wears no clothes.

    4. SW

      The hemp guy.

    5. JR

      Yeah.

    6. KC

      Yeah.

    7. JR

      The hemp emperor. Yeah.

    8. SW

      I know. Yeah, yeah, the emperor.

    9. JR

      Yeah. Well, he's a- a- a- a famous marijuana activist and researcher and he- and he wrote this book. This guy was a g- like a Goldwater Republican, and then, uh, met this lady and they were smoking a little marijuana together, hanging out and, like, all of a sudden he gets it and he goes, "Oh my god, this is good for you." Like, "This is..." (exhales loudly) Like, he has all these revelations about it. Then he goes into the history he fi- 'cause he's a- a very smart guy.

    10. SW

      Mm-hmm.

    11. JR

      He says like, "How did this happen?" And he starts delving into the history of, you know, Harry Anslinger and William Randolph Hearst, and they conspired to make it look like it was this new drug that was causing all these, uh, Mexican guys... Excuse me (hacks) I got this, uh-

    12. KC

      I thought that was-

    13. JR

      ... these Zyn patches in my-

    14. KC

      ... I thought that was the... that the drugs were doing. I was like-

    15. JR

      No, I wish.

    16. KC

      (laughs)

    17. JR

      Um, they were saying that it was causing, uh, Mexicans and Black men to rape white women.

    18. SW

      (gasps)

    19. JR

      They were writing stories about this. And then they came out with the Reefer Madness propaganda films, and all this calling it marijuana.

    20. KC

      They tried to Emmett Till weed.

    21. SW

      Yes, that's why-

    22. JR

      Exac- marijuana was a... like a slang for Mexican wild tobacco. It w- it had nothing to do with-

    23. SW

      And, and that's why... That's why... Sorry to cut you off, but that's why I have, like, uh, one of my Black friends told me the Black community likes to call it cannabis not marijuana because it's associ- marijuana is associated with that...

    24. JR

      Yeah.

    25. SW

      ... negativity.

    26. KC

      Really?

    27. JR

      Yeah, I don't think there's anything wrong with the word marijuana, I think it's a cute name.

    28. SW

      (laughs)

    29. KC

      (laughs)

    30. JR

      I like it. Marijuana sounds good.

  11. 39:39 – 47:35

    Plants feel alive: “forest bathing,” nonverbal instincts, and LA vs. NY road rage

    1. KC

      Well, can I tell you-

    2. JR

      Hello, Kim.

    3. SW

      (laughs)

    4. KC

      ... I have a lot of plants and I feel like that about my plants in general. I-

    5. SW

      She calls one of them her dog.

    6. KC

      ... I have, I have this huge Monstera plant, and I swear to God, it just feels alive, and it creeps me out sometimes.

    7. JR

      Yeah. I'm not a big fan of houseplants.

    8. SW

      You're not?

    9. JR

      No.

    10. SW

      What?

    11. JR

      'Cause I think it's like little prisoners.

    12. KC

      (laughs)

    13. JR

      I think, I think they're supposed to be-

    14. KC

      Outside.

    15. JR

      ... not in this little trapped ecosystem relying on you to play classical music for them. I think they wanna be out there-

    16. KC

      Now I'm sad for my plants.

    17. JR

      ... out there in the wild.

    18. KC

      They don't even get classical music.

    19. SW

      (laughs)

    20. KC

      Free them.

    21. JR

      I'm not a fan of, uh-

    22. KC

      (laughs)

    23. JR

      ... of corralling up wild things.

    24. KC

      Don't make me feel bad a- now that I have prisoner plants at home.

    25. SW

      (laughs)

    26. JR

      (laughs)

    27. SW

      I have to look those babies in the eye every day.

    28. JR

      Well, the thing is that-

    29. KC

      Now I feel like they hate me.

    30. SW

      (laughs) ... and-

  12. 47:35 – 1:19:02

    Pop culture rabbit holes: lost Jim Morrison car, Elvis and Michael Jackson fame, and U2’s Vegas Sphere

    1. JR

      I went down a rabbit hole, uh, yesterday, looking for Jim Morrison's GT500.

    2. SW

      Ooh.

    3. JR

      Apparently, there's a lost car out there.

    4. KC

      Oh, shit.

    5. JR

      No one knows where it is. No one knows how it went away. Jim Morrison had one of the only ... There was only a certain number of Shelby GT500s that were made during this year. I think it was 1967. And this car, he filmed this video of him ... They, they, they made like a movie with it.... so they did some filming with it on the highway, and there's, like, photographs of it and there's footage from it. And he had this car, and then no one knows where it went.

    6. KC

      And you want it.

    7. JR

      Fuck yeah. But I'm, not just me. See, the problem with me is I- I'm the wrong guy for that 'cause I think old cars are stupid. I like to take old cars and turn 'em into cars that drive like new cars. It's like, you want brakes, guys. Like You want real brakes.

    8. KC

      (laughs)

    9. GU

      (laughs)

    10. JR

      You don't, like, that nostalgia of bad brakes, you can kiss my ass with that. I like, like, there's a company called Roadster Shop that did a 1969 Camaro for me. They take old cars and they give it, like, a real suspension, independent suspension, f- full fucking giant six-piston brakes, handles, drives normal, starts when you want it to, voom, voom, voom. That's stupid.

    11. KC

      But it-

    12. JR

      So I wouldn't really want it other than to say I had it.

    13. KC

      Yeah.

    14. GU

      No, you need to get it. You gotta get Jim Morrison's car, Joe.

    15. JR

      It's probably some, like-

    16. KC

      You should send out a hunt for it.

    17. GU

      Send out a hunt.

    18. KC

      You should se- you should make it a whole thing, like, "If you find Jim Morrison's car, you get this prize."

    19. JR

      No, no. I think-

    20. KC

      (laughs)

    21. GU

      (laughs)

    22. JR

      ... it would be like if a comic wanted to get Sam Kinison's car-

    23. KC

      Yeah.

    24. JR

      ... and a musician bought it instead. They'd be like, "Bitch, give it to us."

    25. KC

      Yeah.

    26. JR

      You know?

    27. KC

      That's (laughs) yeah.

    28. GU

      Yeah.

    29. JR

      So Jim Morrison's car, I feel like a musician has to take that.

    30. KC

      I feel like-

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