EVERY SPOKEN WORD
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Theo’s surprise set at the Mothership and the magic of unannounced lineups
- NANarrator
(drum roll) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out.
The Joe Rogan Experience.
Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. (rock music plays)
- JRJoe Rogan
... (rock music plays) Theo Von, Austin, Texas. What- what a pop you got last night. That was a lot of pressure.
- TVTheo Von
It was a lot of pressure.
- JRJoe Rogan
They went crazy. One of the nice things about these shows that we do is that no one knows who's gonna be on them, these Joe Rogan and Friends shows, so, like, it could be a surprise. You were surprised last night.
- TVTheo Von
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
And, uh, we got a, we got video of it. Is it, uh, on the, uh, Mothergram- Mothership Instagram?
- NANarrator
That's actually a better name. It should be the Mothergram.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, right? (laughs)
- TVTheo Von
Oh, yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Look at this. Do they have a pop? All right, here we go.
- NANarrator
Oh, yeah. I love that. Keep it moving and going. For the social media, all the way from Nashville, Tennessee, Theo Von! (cheering)
- JRJoe Rogan
Bro, you got a standing O. What's up? (laughs)
- TVTheo Von
That's crazy, dude.
- JRJoe Rogan
You spent the first 30 seconds of your set high-fiving people. Come on, son. Look at this, look at this.
- TVTheo Von
It was crazy. Some dude threw some semen up at me, I think.
- JRJoe Rogan
Real semen?
- TVTheo Von
Like in that movie, um, Silence of the Lambs. Yeah, I don't know if it was real or not.
- JRJoe Rogan
Miggs.
- TVTheo Von
Yeah. (laughs) Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, Miggs is a guy locked in the cell.
- TVTheo Von
I mean, yeah, I batted it down. I respected it.
- JRJoe Rogan
(blows raspberries)
- TVTheo Von
But yeah, people... Dude, that was awesome, man. Thank you. Congrats.
- JRJoe Rogan
For sure. My pleasure.
- 1:33 – 5:19
Building the club: renovations, “the building feels conscious,” and ghost-hunting stories
- TVTheo Von
Congrats 'cause I remember last time I was here, you just... We went and, you know, you were walk- you walked me through, and you're like, "This is where the light's gonna go when you go on." Like, you had everything to a T.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. How long ago was that?
- TVTheo Von
That was last July.
- JRJoe Rogan
Okay. So last July, there was... Uh, that... We hadn't even raised the floors yet, right?
- TVTheo Von
Y'all were just talking about it.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. That was, that was before we lowered the ceiling and raised the floors. That was... So you got in when it looked like a movie theater. Still looked like the old movie theater, right?
- TVTheo Von
Yeah, I think you were just talking about adjusting the floor heights and doing something like that. Yeah, dude, it was awe- I mean, that was crazy. That was probably... That was a highlight of my, uh, that, I mean, that was a, a highlight of my life, I think.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs) I think so too.
- TVTheo Von
'Cause you get to be a surprise. Like, there's not as much surprises anymore in the world, you know?
- JRJoe Rogan
It's true.
- TVTheo Von
So to v- to have a moment where you're, like, part of a surprise, I think, felt really good.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, that's, that's what it looked like.
- TVTheo Von
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
So that... So when you were there, it was all rough and everything was, you know, just beginning. So you were there the early days. It's weird to be in there now because, (sighs) I mean, I don't wanna sound crazy, but I feel like that place has always been there. It's weird.
- TVTheo Von
Like the club has always been there?
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, the club. It's like it's, it's like it was waiting for us.
- TVTheo Von
Hmm.
- JRJoe Rogan
Like a Stephen King book. For real. Like that, that, that... I've never been in a building that felt more like it was conscious.
- TVTheo Von
Hmm.
- JRJoe Rogan
The place feels conscious. My daughter's into ghosts and shit, and she has this, uh, this thing that she puts on, this, uh, this headphone that's connected to some, some box, and someone will ask questions, and the, the box will pick up, like, random signals, and you're blindfolded, and you listen to this. And so, uh, they, they do this to test places for ghosts, and she says that place is haunted.
- TVTheo Von
She said the club is?
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- TVTheo Von
Oh, I believe that. I could see-
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- TVTheo Von
... it being haunted probably.
- JRJoe Rogan
She's also 12. (laughs)
- TVTheo Von
Well, I'm older than her-
- JRJoe Rogan
At the time.
- TVTheo Von
... but I could all, I would agree with her probably. (laughs) I mean, I could see there being... Uh, I will say this. It felt there was some kind of, um... It felt... I, I, I can understand when you say, like, "This feels like it should've been there over time and history." Like, it's already, like, was just supposed to-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- 5:19 – 6:06
No food at the club: cleanliness, roaches, condiments, and comics’ diet next door
- TVTheo Von
And y'all don't have food, right?
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, that's a big one. Oh. Fuck food.
- TVTheo Von
There's... Yeah, all the condiments and all of that just stains everything and gets on everything, I feel like.
- JRJoe Rogan
Not only that, you get roaches and all kinds of other shit, and... Ugh. Roaches love ketchup, I bet.
- TVTheo Von
(laughs) Do they? I would.
- JRJoe Rogan
Everybody loves ketchup.
- TVTheo Von
Yeah, yeah, yeah. (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs) I like ketchup on hot dogs.
- TVTheo Von
Oh, dude, I bet if you could really get it out of a roach, if you fucking tickled him hard enough, he'd tell you he liked it.
- JRJoe Rogan
I like relish.
- TVTheo Von
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
Relish is my favorite.
- TVTheo Von
Yeah, but we got food next door on both sides of us. We got-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, they got everything.
- TVTheo Von
... shitty Mexican food and shitty pizza.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- TVTheo Von
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
Just what comics deserve too. (laughs) We got some good pizza last night, though. They got some good... I'm, I'm not eating it, but, uh, uh, Attell got something from some high-end pizza place, Hoboken something Pizza something.
- 6:06 – 9:56
What even is a ghost? From Louisiana stories to legal vs. ‘okay’ age gaps
- TVTheo Von
He's the funniest, man. Yeah, they had, um, a lot of ghost stuff. Like, I grew up in Louisiana, right?
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- TVTheo Von
And so ghosts and ghosts, uh, and stuff was a big part of the history, you know, uh, especially in the South.
- JRJoe Rogan
Hmm.
- TVTheo Von
You know, I think, um...
- JRJoe Rogan
What do you think a ghost is?
- TVTheo Von
A ghost?... probably just some busy body that just didn't get all their stuff done.
- JRJoe Rogan
Ooh, they were lazy when they were alive, so they hang around a- after li-... You know what it's like? It's like those dudes who would hang around the high school after they already graduated.
- TVTheo Von
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Like, "What are you doing, loser?"
- TVTheo Von
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- TVTheo Von
Yeah, look at this ghost over here.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, look at this ghost.
- TVTheo Von
Oh, they had a dude, uh, who would bring, like, uh, who was always dating, like, an underage chick, and he's come-
- JRJoe Rogan
Ugh.
- TVTheo Von
... and, like, hand them McDonald's over the fence at our school.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, God.
- TVTheo Von
Oh, and everybody-
- JRJoe Rogan
How old was he?
- TVTheo Von
Oh, everybody thought he was damn Prince Charles. Everybody thought he was, like, the luckiest guy in the world. But he, yeah, he was older. He just, like, was an adult and-
- JRJoe Rogan
Like, a 20-year-old adult, or, like, a 30-year-old adult? It gets exponentially creepier.
- TVTheo Von
(laughs) Yeah, yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Right? And, like, if, if you just graduated, and you're 18, and your girlfriend is 17, that shit is completely normal.
- TVTheo Von
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
You know? But if you're 19, and she's 17, people start to look a little sideways, huh?
- TVTheo Von
Mm-hmm.
- JRJoe Rogan
That extra 12 months makes a big difference. If you're 20, and she's 17, people will get very upset with you, even in places where it's legal, where, where it is legal in a few places, which is kinda weird.
- TVTheo Von
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Because that's pretty weird.
- 9:56 – 14:45
Nature is wild: fawns’ scent debate, horny elk behavior, and selfie stupidity
- JRJoe Rogan
I do not think God had men in mind when he was doing that. No. If there is a God, I think they just wanted to make sure that... A baby's a complicated organ, uh, or complicated, uh, organism, rather. Uh, very complicated, more complicated than any other child of any other animal that's ever been born. Human babies are the weirdest.
- TVTheo Von
Really?
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, that's why they come out so vulnerable. Every other animal comes out, and they can move around, for the most part. Although, I did see a deer, uh, just a couple of days ago on my street. I was going for a walk, and the mama, mama deer bounced off a little, and I saw this little tiny, little tiny baby deer squatted down and laid down on the grass, 'cause that's what they do when they're really, really young.
- TVTheo Von
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
'Cause they can't run away from anything, so their best strategy is to kind of blend in and hide. That's why they have those white dots all over their body. The white dots, like, say if they're in grass, the white dots obscure their, their shape.
- TVTheo Von
Hm.
- JRJoe Rogan
So predators might not see. And I think there's something about their smell. Google that. We have, we finally have internet again. Google, uh, what is the smell of newborn fawns? 'Cause I think there's, like, some strategy that nature has with their smell.
- TVTheo Von
Hm.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, the baby deer has no scent.
- TVTheo Von
(gasps)
- JRJoe Rogan
So, predators that may depend on their sense of smell have difficulty finding the young deer. The mother, always close at hand, tends to circle back towards where her baby lies to get the attention of the predator. Yeah, that's what they did with us. So the-
- TVTheo Von
Oh, they're like that deo-... They're like that, um-
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, it's false. It says it's false. Oh, this one's... Where the fuck is the first one from? The Henderson State University. What a shit fucking university. No, go to the top.
- TVTheo Von
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
Is that where it's from?
- NANarrator
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
That's a f-... What a fucking...
- TVTheo Von
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
"Hey, I got my fucking degree from Henderson." Dan Henderson, he's his principal. (laughs)
- TVTheo Von
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
I asked him what baby deer smell like. He goes, "What are you, a fucking douchebag? Smelling deers?" This is false. Oh, fucking pop-up...
- TVTheo Von
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
... for a fucking outdoor tactical backpack. "This is false. Their unique scent is how their mothers identify them. In fact, they urinate on their tarsal glands daily, even when just a few days old." Interesting.
- TVTheo Von
Oh, they're freaks, man.
- JRJoe Rogan
They're pissing on themselves, going crazy.
- TVTheo Von
Ugh.
- JRJoe Rogan
Elk, elk piss on themselves when they're, when they're horny.
- TVTheo Von
Really?
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, yeah. Their, their dick gets hard, and their dick flops up and down when they scream. They go... Their dick flops-
- TVTheo Von
Oh.
- 14:45 – 18:46
Animal revenge and intelligence: monkeys vs. puppies and orcas sinking boats
- JRJoe Rogan
They don't care. Did you hear about the... Was it India where the monkey started, uh, jacking puppies? In India, a dog killed a monkey.
- TVTheo Von
Mm-hmm.
- JRJoe Rogan
So these monkeys went on a rampage and started chucking puppies off roofs.
- TVTheo Von
Oh.
- JRJoe Rogan
They would carry puppies to the top of roofs and like (screeches) fucking chuck them off the roofs.
- TVTheo Von
Hmm. Like a Maltese.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. Monkeys blamed for hundreds of puppy deaths-
- TVTheo Von
Hmm.
- JRJoe Rogan
... captured in India. So they'd bring them up to the top of a fucking m- building and throw them.
- TVTheo Von
Like a Maltese, though.
- JRJoe Rogan
Villagers claim animals were carrying out revenge killings after dogs killed an infant monkey.
- TVTheo Von
(gasps)
- JRJoe Rogan
Speaking of which, have you seen what's going on with orcas?
- TVTheo Von
Uh-uh.
- JRJoe Rogan
So a female orca, the matriarch, the, the head of this f- female orca pack-
- TVTheo Von
Uh-huh.
- JRJoe Rogan
... the, the head of this orca pack-
- TVTheo Von
When you say orcas, what are you talking about?
- JRJoe Rogan
Killer whales.
- TVTheo Von
Oh, damn. All right.
- JRJoe Rogan
That's a orca.
- TVTheo Von
My God.
- JRJoe Rogan
So, um, they started sinking boats, and they're teaching each other how to sink boats. Apparently, this boat fucked up one of these oarc... 'Cause sometimes what happens is something will go wrong and a propeller will hit. They, th- they've happened all the time with sharks. It's happened with whales. Propellers will fuck up a dolphin or an orca.
- TVTheo Von
Oh, yeah. My friend Dave got pushed off a boat in his... and he got hit by it. When we went, we went over him. He got pushed off the front-
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, geez. You got hit by the propeller?
- TVTheo Von
... and it fucking hit him.
- JRJoe Rogan
Where did it hit him?
- TVTheo Von
Mm, I'm not sure. He wasn't that great to start off with, but he-
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- TVTheo Von
It didn't help him. But I don't think it harmed him much, you know? (laughs) It was like... (laughs)
- 18:46 – 29:07
Pets, enclosures, and ‘mini Jurassic Park’: fish tanks to pit bulls and dog lore
- TVTheo Von
My sister used to have a bass that was in their house, and it was like...... it couldn't even turn around in the tank.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, that's fucked up.
- TVTheo Von
I don't think it minded.
- JRJoe Rogan
I bet it did.
- TVTheo Von
I don't know.
- JRJoe Rogan
Of course it did.
- TVTheo Von
It lived there for a long time.
- JRJoe Rogan
That's what they say to guys in solitary, "I don't think he minds." (laughs)
- TVTheo Von
(laughs) Oh yeah, that's true. Huh?
- JRJoe Rogan
He's by himself in there. (laughs) Especially if it's a bass, you can't talk to him. You know, he's probably like, "Get me the fuck outta here. I wanna be in a lake."
- TVTheo Von
(laughs) Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
"I wanna be eating frogs, you cunt." (laughs)
- TVTheo Von
He's just watching Cops outta one eye with his sister.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs) He's watching 90 Day Fiance.
- TVTheo Von
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
What the fuck is wrong with people? "Keep me in this goddamn bowl. (laughs) I'm a bass."
- TVTheo Von
Stupid fuck.
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm, mm, mm. (laughs)
- TVTheo Von
I used to have piranhas.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh. (laughs)
- TVTheo Von
Yeah, of course you did, man. Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs) Who- who doesn't think you did? (laughs)
- TVTheo Von
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
I had this, uh, one house that I lived in when I was living by myself. I, uh, there was, like, uh, an indoor courtyard to this house. And, uh, I literally actually consulted construction people. I was gonna create, like, a miniature Jurassic Park in this courtyard. I was gonna seal it off and put crocodile monitors in and have, like, a little hatch where I could release a rabbit.
- TVTheo Von
(Gasps) Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
And watch him kill it?
- TVTheo Von
And watch him kill it. Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- TVTheo Von
But then I had, like, a come to Jesus moment, like, "What the fuck is wrong with you?"
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- 29:07 – 34:40
Nostalgia detour: Suzanne Somers, ThighMaster, sitcom negotiations, and MFN clauses
- TVTheo Von
... or any experience around dogs, you know? I remember first time I ever even met a, uh, indoor dog, it was... I didn't know a dog could even be indoors, right? And I was at my buddy Scott's house and they had a l- a golden retriever.
- JRJoe Rogan
Hmm.
- TVTheo Von
And this bitch came around the corner, dude, and I was like, "Who in the fuck is that?" I mean, it was, like, the most beautiful thing. I mean, it was just, like-
- JRJoe Rogan
Fluffy and gorgeous. (laughs)
- TVTheo Von
Oh, beautiful. (laughs) Fucking long blond hair.
- JRJoe Rogan
And gorgeous dog.
- TVTheo Von
It was like Suzanne Somers who'd just come in-
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- TVTheo Von
And I was like, "Damn, that thing is fucking fine," you know?
- JRJoe Rogan
Suzanne Somers.
- TVTheo Von
I'd just never seen a dog look like they had, like, gotten a good night's sleep, you know?
- JRJoe Rogan
Remember Suzanne Somers with the ThighMaster?
- TVTheo Von
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
All she had was a, this spring to just tighten up your pussy muscle.
- TVTheo Von
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
'Cause that's what you're doing. Like, there's a lot of... Like, it's not squatting for your butt. It's not lunges. You're just tightening up them pussy muscles, dude.
- TVTheo Von
Oh, dude.
- JRJoe Rogan
You gonna squeeze that dick, squeeze that dick, squeeze that dick.
- TVTheo Von
That thing's gonna gleak by the time you get done with it, dude.
- JRJoe Rogan
S- see if you can find the, the ad for the ThighMaster. A lot of ladies bought that too 'cause they wanted to look like Suzanne Somers. Look, it's just a spring. She's still looking good and she's, like, a thousand years old.
- TVTheo Von
Oh yeah, she's still looks really good in my head.
- JRJoe Rogan
One of the biggest blunders in all of television, though, her and Three's Company.
- TVTheo Von
Three's Company too. That was a great show. What happened to it?
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, uh, she... Crazy negotiations. She wanted more money. She was demanding more money because she had become a giant star, and so they basically relegated her to... She wasn't even on the show anymore. Like, o- there was one episode where she made a phone call and she called them, like she was on vacation, and that was her in the episode. Her in some totally different location, calling them on the phone.
- TVTheo Von
Wow.
- JRJoe Rogan
And then they eventually replaced her.
- TVTheo Von
Yeah, I remember they got a new woman.
- JRJoe Rogan
I think it was, like, you know, she got an aggressive agent. It might have been a husband. One of those deals.
- TVTheo Von
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
And he was like, "I got this. I'm gonna fucking... You deserve more money."
- 34:40 – 59:39
Old TV rabbit holes: John Ritter stories, The Man from Atlantis, werewolves, and Swamp Thing
- JRJoe Rogan
He was a real sweet guy. He was real f- Everybody loved him. He was on the set of News Radio for a week, and just a super nice guy. Like, 'cause sometimes you meet people and you hope they're gonna be nice, because they're nice on TV, you know? But they're not.
- TVTheo Von
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
And it's really frustrating. It's weird. Like, they're creepy to you. Or they're shitty to you because you're an actor and you're like, "Oh, wow, you're kind of a cunt." You're a fake. You're faking it for television, but in real life you're like this weird, snipey, sort of shitty, fucking insulting person.
- TVTheo Von
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
And like, I met a few of those too.
- TVTheo Von
Yeah?
- JRJoe Rogan
(sighs) Yeah. It's very frustrating, 'cause you're like, "God, I thought you were nice. I th- I saw you on TV, you were nice." Just trying to say hi, and you're a fucking cunt to me.
- TVTheo Von
Yeah. Yeah, we were supposed to... Michael Landon was supposed to come to our town. Um...
- JRJoe Rogan
Aquaman. No, it wasn't Aquaman. The Man from Atlantis.
- TVTheo Von
Was he?
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- TVTheo Von
I didn't see that.
- JRJoe Rogan
Maybe... Was he on Little House in the Prairie?
- TVTheo Von
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
I think he was on The Man from Atlantis too, wasn't he?
- TVTheo Von
Good boy. I remember little-
- JRJoe Rogan
Everybody w- would swim like The Man from Atlantis when I was a kid.
- TVTheo Von
Oh, really?
- JRJoe Rogan
Swim like this. 'Cause he swam like almost like a dolphin. He didn't swim like a person.
- TVTheo Von
Well, dude, you have to think. The first people-
- JRJoe Rogan
It wasn't him?
- NANarrator
No.
- JRJoe Rogan
No? Who was it? Who was The Man from Atlantis? Who was the, the main actor?
- NANarrator
He looks more like Patrick Duffy.
- JRJoe Rogan
Patrick Duffy, that's right. I confuse those two.
- TVTheo Von
Well, Joe, you have to think. Probably the first people-
- NANarrator
That guy.
- TVTheo Von
Oh wow, that dude, huh? Look at that pervert.
- JRJoe Rogan
You never saw this? The Man from Atlantis?
- TVTheo Von
Nuh-uh.
- 59:39 – 1:02:13
How Joe ‘just talks’ to guests: nervous first-timers, audience pressure, and authenticity
- TVTheo Von
Did you ever interview Willie Nelson? Do you ever interview him?
- JRJoe Rogan
No, I would love to interview Willie Nelson.
- TVTheo Von
Man.
- JRJoe Rogan
I though... I don't think I interview people. I think I just talk to them.
- TVTheo Von
That's a good point. Yeah, sorry. Do you ever just talk to Willie Nelson?
- JRJoe Rogan
No, it's okay. But I mean, people have said that, like about, "I love your interview." And I'm always like, "Ee, I mean, kinda? Sorta?" It's really just a conversation.
- TVTheo Von
Well, some people, I think, if you're curious on information from them-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yes.
- TVTheo Von
... then you wanna ask them more things, like about that they know about that you don't know about.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh yeah, for sure. Like, if I'm talking to Michio Kaku or, you know, a quantum physicist or someone like that, I, I ask questions.
- TVTheo Von
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
I'm es- essentially interviewing them and ... Well, if it's especially it's something that I really have no understanding of.
- TVTheo Von
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. But for the most part, I'm just talking to people.
- TVTheo Von
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Which is like ... It takes a lot of pressure off too, 'cause they're like, "What subject do you wanna cover?" I'm like, "I don't know. Let's just talk."
- TVTheo Von
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Some people are weirded out by that, you know. Like, you and I, it's like s- we've known each other so long, we don't have to talk about what we're gonna talk about. We just get in here and start rolling.
- TVTheo Von
Yeah, it's a little easier too. I think it gets easier too when you've been in here before.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. It's weird when you see people for the first time and you see them lock up and they're nervous and I'm ... And I'm always just like, "I'm gonna hold your hand and we- we're gonna get through this. I'm gonna get you 20 minutes in and you're gonna not even know you're here."
- TVTheo Von
Have you had people that really locked up?
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. Yeah, yeah. I've had people get real nervous and you see them breathing funny and they, they can't talk that good because they can't get breath, you know? And ... But it's, it's okay. I always just like, "Let's just, let's just calm this thing down."
- TVTheo Von
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
"We're gonna be all right."
- TVTheo Von
It's pretty normal, I think, some people trying something new.
- JRJoe Rogan
But it's just weird, the, the numbers. That's what weirds people out, the numbers of humans. That, that freaks people out. Like, you, you can't ... It's hard to just be yourself in front of millions of people.
- TVTheo Von
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
... but you can. And you do it, I do it, we do it.
- TVTheo Von
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
You can just be yourself. You are the same fucking dude if you and I are going, having dinner somewhere or if we're at a comedy club or if we're here.
- 1:02:13 – 1:15:44
Mushroom ‘frequency’ revelation and Theo’s morning discipline (earplugs, prayer, meditation, journaling)
- JRJoe Rogan
I had a revelation the other night that I forgot about. I was on mushrooms.
- TVTheo Von
Mm-hmm.
- JRJoe Rogan
And, um, I closed my eyes and I realized that in certain circumstances, when I'm healthy, when I'm, when everything's going great, I have a very specific frequency. It's a different frequency. And this, this weird revelation that I had while I was high told, showed me this. It was like, it was almost like a lesson that I was learning. And it was like here's you now. You're very healthy. You, you just ... I, I had an IV vitamin drip that day. I'd worked out, I did the cold plunge, did the sauna. No conflicts, no, no problem in my personal life, no problem in my business life. Everything was beautiful and I had this like, whoo. And I, and then it showed me there's times where you don't have that, where you're irritable, where you're, you're tired, where you're sick, where you're hurt. There's all these different-
- TVTheo Von
Hmm.
- JRJoe Rogan
... frequencies that you have and it made me realize like you think about your health and you think about like how you feel and whether or not you're present. You think of it as just like, it's better to just be this way. But you don't realize that you're achieving a certain frequency. I was achieving a certain frequency at, at that moment and I realized like this is attainable and this is what I should strive for and that I could stay at this frequency. But one of the things it was telling me is to don't drink.
- TVTheo Von
Hmm.
- JRJoe Rogan
It was like right when I was there, it was like don't drink. 'Cause if you're drinking right now, you're gonna, you're gonna kill this frequency. It's gonna dull it. Like you might have less inhibitions, but it will dull this frequency.
- TVTheo Von
Wow.
- JRJoe Rogan
It was very interesting. It was like one of them weird mushroom moments.
- TVTheo Von
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Where the mushroom's like, "Hey, I, this is probably something you should think about."
- TVTheo Von
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Because I don't think you think about it this way. You just indulgent, you know, you do this, you do that, you have a slice of pizza-
- TVTheo Von
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
... you eat a meatball sub, you're fine. What, but what's going on with your, your overall energy when you do that? You really want your energy to be at the m- the best possible state, but you don't think about it that way.
- TVTheo Von
Right. But we, yeah, you don't think about it exactly like that way, but we do think about it in ways like, like our attitude. Like we have little words we use to describe-
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm-hmm.
- TVTheo Von
... like kind of like elements of it I guess?
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. Yeah.
- TVTheo Von
But I wonder in the future if there will be a way that we can measure whatever that frequency is. Like-
- JRJoe Rogan
Hmm.
- TVTheo Von
... sometimes it feels like we're kind of primitive in the understand, in the like the quantifying of, um, like we take our temperature, you know?
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm-hmm.
- TVTheo Von
Like just in things that we-
- JRJoe Rogan
Blood pressure.
- TVTheo Von
Yeah, in, in little things that we use to evaluate us. Sometimes, uh, I feel like we're on a plane that feels really old sometimes.
- JRJoe Rogan
Hmm.
- TVTheo Von
Like there should be like another-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- TVTheo Von
... plane where we start to m- Like is there a number for what my frequency is today? Because you kind of feel that. It's like where you operate at and-
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