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Joe Rogan Experience #1994 - Theo Von

Theo Von is a stand-up comic and podcaster. He is the host of "This Past Weekend with Theo Von."www.theovon.com

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  1. 0:001:33

    Theo’s surprise set at the Mothership and the magic of unannounced lineups

    1. NA

      (drum roll) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out.

    2. The Joe Rogan Experience.

    3. Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. (rock music plays)

    4. JR

      ... (rock music plays) Theo Von, Austin, Texas. What- what a pop you got last night. That was a lot of pressure.

    5. TV

      It was a lot of pressure.

    6. JR

      They went crazy. One of the nice things about these shows that we do is that no one knows who's gonna be on them, these Joe Rogan and Friends shows, so, like, it could be a surprise. You were surprised last night.

    7. TV

      Yeah.

    8. JR

      And, uh, we got a, we got video of it. Is it, uh, on the, uh, Mothergram- Mothership Instagram?

    9. NA

      That's actually a better name. It should be the Mothergram.

    10. JR

      Yeah, right? (laughs)

    11. TV

      Oh, yeah.

    12. JR

      Look at this. Do they have a pop? All right, here we go.

    13. NA

      Oh, yeah. I love that. Keep it moving and going. For the social media, all the way from Nashville, Tennessee, Theo Von! (cheering)

    14. JR

      Bro, you got a standing O. What's up? (laughs)

    15. TV

      That's crazy, dude.

    16. JR

      You spent the first 30 seconds of your set high-fiving people. Come on, son. Look at this, look at this.

    17. TV

      It was crazy. Some dude threw some semen up at me, I think.

    18. JR

      Real semen?

    19. TV

      Like in that movie, um, Silence of the Lambs. Yeah, I don't know if it was real or not.

    20. JR

      Miggs.

    21. TV

      Yeah. (laughs) Yeah.

    22. JR

      Yeah, Miggs is a guy locked in the cell.

    23. TV

      I mean, yeah, I batted it down. I respected it.

    24. JR

      (blows raspberries)

    25. TV

      But yeah, people... Dude, that was awesome, man. Thank you. Congrats.

    26. JR

      For sure. My pleasure.

  2. 1:335:19

    Building the club: renovations, “the building feels conscious,” and ghost-hunting stories

    1. TV

      Congrats 'cause I remember last time I was here, you just... We went and, you know, you were walk- you walked me through, and you're like, "This is where the light's gonna go when you go on." Like, you had everything to a T.

    2. JR

      Yeah. How long ago was that?

    3. TV

      That was last July.

    4. JR

      Okay. So last July, there was... Uh, that... We hadn't even raised the floors yet, right?

    5. TV

      Y'all were just talking about it.

    6. JR

      Yeah. That was, that was before we lowered the ceiling and raised the floors. That was... So you got in when it looked like a movie theater. Still looked like the old movie theater, right?

    7. TV

      Yeah, I think you were just talking about adjusting the floor heights and doing something like that. Yeah, dude, it was awe- I mean, that was crazy. That was probably... That was a highlight of my, uh, that, I mean, that was a, a highlight of my life, I think.

    8. JR

      (laughs) I think so too.

    9. TV

      'Cause you get to be a surprise. Like, there's not as much surprises anymore in the world, you know?

    10. JR

      It's true.

    11. TV

      So to v- to have a moment where you're, like, part of a surprise, I think, felt really good.

    12. JR

      Yeah, that's, that's what it looked like.

    13. TV

      Yeah.

    14. JR

      So that... So when you were there, it was all rough and everything was, you know, just beginning. So you were there the early days. It's weird to be in there now because, (sighs) I mean, I don't wanna sound crazy, but I feel like that place has always been there. It's weird.

    15. TV

      Like the club has always been there?

    16. JR

      Yeah, the club. It's like it's, it's like it was waiting for us.

    17. TV

      Hmm.

    18. JR

      Like a Stephen King book. For real. Like that, that, that... I've never been in a building that felt more like it was conscious.

    19. TV

      Hmm.

    20. JR

      The place feels conscious. My daughter's into ghosts and shit, and she has this, uh, this thing that she puts on, this, uh, this headphone that's connected to some, some box, and someone will ask questions, and the, the box will pick up, like, random signals, and you're blindfolded, and you listen to this. And so, uh, they, they do this to test places for ghosts, and she says that place is haunted.

    21. TV

      She said the club is?

    22. JR

      Yeah.

    23. TV

      Oh, I believe that. I could see-

    24. JR

      (laughs)

    25. TV

      ... it being haunted probably.

    26. JR

      She's also 12. (laughs)

    27. TV

      Well, I'm older than her-

    28. JR

      At the time.

    29. TV

      ... but I could all, I would agree with her probably. (laughs) I mean, I could see there being... Uh, I will say this. It felt there was some kind of, um... It felt... I, I, I can understand when you say, like, "This feels like it should've been there over time and history." Like, it's already, like, was just supposed to-

    30. JR

      Yeah.

  3. 5:196:06

    No food at the club: cleanliness, roaches, condiments, and comics’ diet next door

    1. TV

      And y'all don't have food, right?

    2. JR

      Yeah, that's a big one. Oh. Fuck food.

    3. TV

      There's... Yeah, all the condiments and all of that just stains everything and gets on everything, I feel like.

    4. JR

      Not only that, you get roaches and all kinds of other shit, and... Ugh. Roaches love ketchup, I bet.

    5. TV

      (laughs) Do they? I would.

    6. JR

      Everybody loves ketchup.

    7. TV

      Yeah, yeah, yeah. (laughs)

    8. JR

      (laughs) I like ketchup on hot dogs.

    9. TV

      Oh, dude, I bet if you could really get it out of a roach, if you fucking tickled him hard enough, he'd tell you he liked it.

    10. JR

      I like relish.

    11. TV

      (laughs)

    12. JR

      Relish is my favorite.

    13. TV

      Yeah, but we got food next door on both sides of us. We got-

    14. JR

      Yeah, they got everything.

    15. TV

      ... shitty Mexican food and shitty pizza.

    16. JR

      Yeah.

    17. TV

      (laughs)

    18. JR

      Just what comics deserve too. (laughs) We got some good pizza last night, though. They got some good... I'm, I'm not eating it, but, uh, uh, Attell got something from some high-end pizza place, Hoboken something Pizza something.

  4. 6:069:56

    What even is a ghost? From Louisiana stories to legal vs. ‘okay’ age gaps

    1. TV

      He's the funniest, man. Yeah, they had, um, a lot of ghost stuff. Like, I grew up in Louisiana, right?

    2. JR

      Yeah.

    3. TV

      And so ghosts and ghosts, uh, and stuff was a big part of the history, you know, uh, especially in the South.

    4. JR

      Hmm.

    5. TV

      You know, I think, um...

    6. JR

      What do you think a ghost is?

    7. TV

      A ghost?... probably just some busy body that just didn't get all their stuff done.

    8. JR

      Ooh, they were lazy when they were alive, so they hang around a- after li-... You know what it's like? It's like those dudes who would hang around the high school after they already graduated.

    9. TV

      Yeah.

    10. JR

      Like, "What are you doing, loser?"

    11. TV

      (laughs)

    12. JR

      (laughs)

    13. TV

      Yeah, look at this ghost over here.

    14. JR

      Yeah, look at this ghost.

    15. TV

      Oh, they had a dude, uh, who would bring, like, uh, who was always dating, like, an underage chick, and he's come-

    16. JR

      Ugh.

    17. TV

      ... and, like, hand them McDonald's over the fence at our school.

    18. JR

      Oh, God.

    19. TV

      Oh, and everybody-

    20. JR

      How old was he?

    21. TV

      Oh, everybody thought he was damn Prince Charles. Everybody thought he was, like, the luckiest guy in the world. But he, yeah, he was older. He just, like, was an adult and-

    22. JR

      Like, a 20-year-old adult, or, like, a 30-year-old adult? It gets exponentially creepier.

    23. TV

      (laughs) Yeah, yeah.

    24. JR

      Right? And, like, if, if you just graduated, and you're 18, and your girlfriend is 17, that shit is completely normal.

    25. TV

      Yeah.

    26. JR

      You know? But if you're 19, and she's 17, people start to look a little sideways, huh?

    27. TV

      Mm-hmm.

    28. JR

      That extra 12 months makes a big difference. If you're 20, and she's 17, people will get very upset with you, even in places where it's legal, where, where it is legal in a few places, which is kinda weird.

    29. TV

      Yeah.

    30. JR

      Because that's pretty weird.

  5. 9:5614:45

    Nature is wild: fawns’ scent debate, horny elk behavior, and selfie stupidity

    1. JR

      I do not think God had men in mind when he was doing that. No. If there is a God, I think they just wanted to make sure that... A baby's a complicated organ, uh, or complicated, uh, organism, rather. Uh, very complicated, more complicated than any other child of any other animal that's ever been born. Human babies are the weirdest.

    2. TV

      Really?

    3. JR

      Yeah, that's why they come out so vulnerable. Every other animal comes out, and they can move around, for the most part. Although, I did see a deer, uh, just a couple of days ago on my street. I was going for a walk, and the mama, mama deer bounced off a little, and I saw this little tiny, little tiny baby deer squatted down and laid down on the grass, 'cause that's what they do when they're really, really young.

    4. TV

      Yeah.

    5. JR

      'Cause they can't run away from anything, so their best strategy is to kind of blend in and hide. That's why they have those white dots all over their body. The white dots, like, say if they're in grass, the white dots obscure their, their shape.

    6. TV

      Hm.

    7. JR

      So predators might not see. And I think there's something about their smell. Google that. We have, we finally have internet again. Google, uh, what is the smell of newborn fawns? 'Cause I think there's, like, some strategy that nature has with their smell.

    8. TV

      Hm.

    9. JR

      Yeah, the baby deer has no scent.

    10. TV

      (gasps)

    11. JR

      So, predators that may depend on their sense of smell have difficulty finding the young deer. The mother, always close at hand, tends to circle back towards where her baby lies to get the attention of the predator. Yeah, that's what they did with us. So the-

    12. TV

      Oh, they're like that deo-... They're like that, um-

    13. JR

      Oh, it's false. It says it's false. Oh, this one's... Where the fuck is the first one from? The Henderson State University. What a shit fucking university. No, go to the top.

    14. TV

      (laughs)

    15. JR

      Is that where it's from?

    16. NA

      Yeah, yeah, yeah.

    17. JR

      That's a f-... What a fucking...

    18. TV

      (laughs)

    19. JR

      "Hey, I got my fucking degree from Henderson." Dan Henderson, he's his principal. (laughs)

    20. TV

      (laughs)

    21. JR

      I asked him what baby deer smell like. He goes, "What are you, a fucking douchebag? Smelling deers?" This is false. Oh, fucking pop-up...

    22. TV

      (laughs)

    23. JR

      ... for a fucking outdoor tactical backpack. "This is false. Their unique scent is how their mothers identify them. In fact, they urinate on their tarsal glands daily, even when just a few days old." Interesting.

    24. TV

      Oh, they're freaks, man.

    25. JR

      They're pissing on themselves, going crazy.

    26. TV

      Ugh.

    27. JR

      Elk, elk piss on themselves when they're, when they're horny.

    28. TV

      Really?

    29. JR

      Well, yeah. Their, their dick gets hard, and their dick flops up and down when they scream. They go... Their dick flops-

    30. TV

      Oh.

  6. 14:4518:46

    Animal revenge and intelligence: monkeys vs. puppies and orcas sinking boats

    1. JR

      They don't care. Did you hear about the... Was it India where the monkey started, uh, jacking puppies? In India, a dog killed a monkey.

    2. TV

      Mm-hmm.

    3. JR

      So these monkeys went on a rampage and started chucking puppies off roofs.

    4. TV

      Oh.

    5. JR

      They would carry puppies to the top of roofs and like (screeches) fucking chuck them off the roofs.

    6. TV

      Hmm. Like a Maltese.

    7. JR

      Yeah. Monkeys blamed for hundreds of puppy deaths-

    8. TV

      Hmm.

    9. JR

      ... captured in India. So they'd bring them up to the top of a fucking m- building and throw them.

    10. TV

      Like a Maltese, though.

    11. JR

      Villagers claim animals were carrying out revenge killings after dogs killed an infant monkey.

    12. TV

      (gasps)

    13. JR

      Speaking of which, have you seen what's going on with orcas?

    14. TV

      Uh-uh.

    15. JR

      So a female orca, the matriarch, the, the head of this f- female orca pack-

    16. TV

      Uh-huh.

    17. JR

      ... the, the head of this orca pack-

    18. TV

      When you say orcas, what are you talking about?

    19. JR

      Killer whales.

    20. TV

      Oh, damn. All right.

    21. JR

      That's a orca.

    22. TV

      My God.

    23. JR

      So, um, they started sinking boats, and they're teaching each other how to sink boats. Apparently, this boat fucked up one of these oarc... 'Cause sometimes what happens is something will go wrong and a propeller will hit. They, th- they've happened all the time with sharks. It's happened with whales. Propellers will fuck up a dolphin or an orca.

    24. TV

      Oh, yeah. My friend Dave got pushed off a boat in his... and he got hit by it. When we went, we went over him. He got pushed off the front-

    25. JR

      Oh, geez. You got hit by the propeller?

    26. TV

      ... and it fucking hit him.

    27. JR

      Where did it hit him?

    28. TV

      Mm, I'm not sure. He wasn't that great to start off with, but he-

    29. JR

      (laughs)

    30. TV

      It didn't help him. But I don't think it harmed him much, you know? (laughs) It was like... (laughs)

  7. 18:4629:07

    Pets, enclosures, and ‘mini Jurassic Park’: fish tanks to pit bulls and dog lore

    1. TV

      My sister used to have a bass that was in their house, and it was like...... it couldn't even turn around in the tank.

    2. JR

      Oh, that's fucked up.

    3. TV

      I don't think it minded.

    4. JR

      I bet it did.

    5. TV

      I don't know.

    6. JR

      Of course it did.

    7. TV

      It lived there for a long time.

    8. JR

      That's what they say to guys in solitary, "I don't think he minds." (laughs)

    9. TV

      (laughs) Oh yeah, that's true. Huh?

    10. JR

      He's by himself in there. (laughs) Especially if it's a bass, you can't talk to him. You know, he's probably like, "Get me the fuck outta here. I wanna be in a lake."

    11. TV

      (laughs) Yeah.

    12. JR

      "I wanna be eating frogs, you cunt." (laughs)

    13. TV

      He's just watching Cops outta one eye with his sister.

    14. JR

      (laughs) He's watching 90 Day Fiance.

    15. TV

      (laughs)

    16. JR

      What the fuck is wrong with people? "Keep me in this goddamn bowl. (laughs) I'm a bass."

    17. TV

      Stupid fuck.

    18. JR

      Mm, mm, mm. (laughs)

    19. TV

      I used to have piranhas.

    20. JR

      Oh. (laughs)

    21. TV

      Yeah, of course you did, man. Yeah.

    22. JR

      (laughs) Who- who doesn't think you did? (laughs)

    23. TV

      (laughs)

    24. JR

      I had this, uh, one house that I lived in when I was living by myself. I, uh, there was, like, uh, an indoor courtyard to this house. And, uh, I literally actually consulted construction people. I was gonna create, like, a miniature Jurassic Park in this courtyard. I was gonna seal it off and put crocodile monitors in and have, like, a little hatch where I could release a rabbit.

    25. TV

      (Gasps) Yeah.

    26. JR

      And watch him kill it?

    27. TV

      And watch him kill it. Yeah.

    28. JR

      Yeah.

    29. TV

      But then I had, like, a come to Jesus moment, like, "What the fuck is wrong with you?"

    30. JR

      Yeah.

  8. 29:0734:40

    Nostalgia detour: Suzanne Somers, ThighMaster, sitcom negotiations, and MFN clauses

    1. TV

      ... or any experience around dogs, you know? I remember first time I ever even met a, uh, indoor dog, it was... I didn't know a dog could even be indoors, right? And I was at my buddy Scott's house and they had a l- a golden retriever.

    2. JR

      Hmm.

    3. TV

      And this bitch came around the corner, dude, and I was like, "Who in the fuck is that?" I mean, it was, like, the most beautiful thing. I mean, it was just, like-

    4. JR

      Fluffy and gorgeous. (laughs)

    5. TV

      Oh, beautiful. (laughs) Fucking long blond hair.

    6. JR

      And gorgeous dog.

    7. TV

      It was like Suzanne Somers who'd just come in-

    8. JR

      (laughs)

    9. TV

      And I was like, "Damn, that thing is fucking fine," you know?

    10. JR

      Suzanne Somers.

    11. TV

      I'd just never seen a dog look like they had, like, gotten a good night's sleep, you know?

    12. JR

      Remember Suzanne Somers with the ThighMaster?

    13. TV

      Yeah.

    14. JR

      All she had was a, this spring to just tighten up your pussy muscle.

    15. TV

      (laughs)

    16. JR

      'Cause that's what you're doing. Like, there's a lot of... Like, it's not squatting for your butt. It's not lunges. You're just tightening up them pussy muscles, dude.

    17. TV

      Oh, dude.

    18. JR

      You gonna squeeze that dick, squeeze that dick, squeeze that dick.

    19. TV

      That thing's gonna gleak by the time you get done with it, dude.

    20. JR

      S- see if you can find the, the ad for the ThighMaster. A lot of ladies bought that too 'cause they wanted to look like Suzanne Somers. Look, it's just a spring. She's still looking good and she's, like, a thousand years old.

    21. TV

      Oh yeah, she's still looks really good in my head.

    22. JR

      One of the biggest blunders in all of television, though, her and Three's Company.

    23. TV

      Three's Company too. That was a great show. What happened to it?

    24. JR

      Well, uh, she... Crazy negotiations. She wanted more money. She was demanding more money because she had become a giant star, and so they basically relegated her to... She wasn't even on the show anymore. Like, o- there was one episode where she made a phone call and she called them, like she was on vacation, and that was her in the episode. Her in some totally different location, calling them on the phone.

    25. TV

      Wow.

    26. JR

      And then they eventually replaced her.

    27. TV

      Yeah, I remember they got a new woman.

    28. JR

      I think it was, like, you know, she got an aggressive agent. It might have been a husband. One of those deals.

    29. TV

      Yeah.

    30. JR

      And he was like, "I got this. I'm gonna fucking... You deserve more money."

  9. 34:4059:39

    Old TV rabbit holes: John Ritter stories, The Man from Atlantis, werewolves, and Swamp Thing

    1. JR

      He was a real sweet guy. He was real f- Everybody loved him. He was on the set of News Radio for a week, and just a super nice guy. Like, 'cause sometimes you meet people and you hope they're gonna be nice, because they're nice on TV, you know? But they're not.

    2. TV

      Yeah.

    3. JR

      And it's really frustrating. It's weird. Like, they're creepy to you. Or they're shitty to you because you're an actor and you're like, "Oh, wow, you're kind of a cunt." You're a fake. You're faking it for television, but in real life you're like this weird, snipey, sort of shitty, fucking insulting person.

    4. TV

      Yeah.

    5. JR

      And like, I met a few of those too.

    6. TV

      Yeah?

    7. JR

      (sighs) Yeah. It's very frustrating, 'cause you're like, "God, I thought you were nice. I th- I saw you on TV, you were nice." Just trying to say hi, and you're a fucking cunt to me.

    8. TV

      Yeah. Yeah, we were supposed to... Michael Landon was supposed to come to our town. Um...

    9. JR

      Aquaman. No, it wasn't Aquaman. The Man from Atlantis.

    10. TV

      Was he?

    11. JR

      Yeah.

    12. TV

      I didn't see that.

    13. JR

      Maybe... Was he on Little House in the Prairie?

    14. TV

      Yeah.

    15. JR

      I think he was on The Man from Atlantis too, wasn't he?

    16. TV

      Good boy. I remember little-

    17. JR

      Everybody w- would swim like The Man from Atlantis when I was a kid.

    18. TV

      Oh, really?

    19. JR

      Swim like this. 'Cause he swam like almost like a dolphin. He didn't swim like a person.

    20. TV

      Well, dude, you have to think. The first people-

    21. JR

      It wasn't him?

    22. NA

      No.

    23. JR

      No? Who was it? Who was The Man from Atlantis? Who was the, the main actor?

    24. NA

      He looks more like Patrick Duffy.

    25. JR

      Patrick Duffy, that's right. I confuse those two.

    26. TV

      Well, Joe, you have to think. Probably the first people-

    27. NA

      That guy.

    28. TV

      Oh wow, that dude, huh? Look at that pervert.

    29. JR

      You never saw this? The Man from Atlantis?

    30. TV

      Nuh-uh.

  10. 59:391:02:13

    How Joe ‘just talks’ to guests: nervous first-timers, audience pressure, and authenticity

    1. TV

      Did you ever interview Willie Nelson? Do you ever interview him?

    2. JR

      No, I would love to interview Willie Nelson.

    3. TV

      Man.

    4. JR

      I though... I don't think I interview people. I think I just talk to them.

    5. TV

      That's a good point. Yeah, sorry. Do you ever just talk to Willie Nelson?

    6. JR

      No, it's okay. But I mean, people have said that, like about, "I love your interview." And I'm always like, "Ee, I mean, kinda? Sorta?" It's really just a conversation.

    7. TV

      Well, some people, I think, if you're curious on information from them-

    8. JR

      Yes.

    9. TV

      ... then you wanna ask them more things, like about that they know about that you don't know about.

    10. JR

      Oh yeah, for sure. Like, if I'm talking to Michio Kaku or, you know, a quantum physicist or someone like that, I, I ask questions.

    11. TV

      Yeah.

    12. JR

      I'm es- essentially interviewing them and ... Well, if it's especially it's something that I really have no understanding of.

    13. TV

      Yeah.

    14. JR

      Yeah. But for the most part, I'm just talking to people.

    15. TV

      Yeah.

    16. JR

      Which is like ... It takes a lot of pressure off too, 'cause they're like, "What subject do you wanna cover?" I'm like, "I don't know. Let's just talk."

    17. TV

      Yeah.

    18. JR

      Some people are weirded out by that, you know. Like, you and I, it's like s- we've known each other so long, we don't have to talk about what we're gonna talk about. We just get in here and start rolling.

    19. TV

      Yeah, it's a little easier too. I think it gets easier too when you've been in here before.

    20. JR

      Yeah. It's weird when you see people for the first time and you see them lock up and they're nervous and I'm ... And I'm always just like, "I'm gonna hold your hand and we- we're gonna get through this. I'm gonna get you 20 minutes in and you're gonna not even know you're here."

    21. TV

      Have you had people that really locked up?

    22. JR

      Yeah. Yeah, yeah. I've had people get real nervous and you see them breathing funny and they, they can't talk that good because they can't get breath, you know? And ... But it's, it's okay. I always just like, "Let's just, let's just calm this thing down."

    23. TV

      Yeah.

    24. JR

      "We're gonna be all right."

    25. TV

      It's pretty normal, I think, some people trying something new.

    26. JR

      But it's just weird, the, the numbers. That's what weirds people out, the numbers of humans. That, that freaks people out. Like, you, you can't ... It's hard to just be yourself in front of millions of people.

    27. TV

      Yeah.

    28. JR

      ... but you can. And you do it, I do it, we do it.

    29. TV

      Yeah.

    30. JR

      You can just be yourself. You are the same fucking dude if you and I are going, having dinner somewhere or if we're at a comedy club or if we're here.

  11. 1:02:131:15:44

    Mushroom ‘frequency’ revelation and Theo’s morning discipline (earplugs, prayer, meditation, journaling)

    1. JR

      I had a revelation the other night that I forgot about. I was on mushrooms.

    2. TV

      Mm-hmm.

    3. JR

      And, um, I closed my eyes and I realized that in certain circumstances, when I'm healthy, when I'm, when everything's going great, I have a very specific frequency. It's a different frequency. And this, this weird revelation that I had while I was high told, showed me this. It was like, it was almost like a lesson that I was learning. And it was like here's you now. You're very healthy. You, you just ... I, I had an IV vitamin drip that day. I'd worked out, I did the cold plunge, did the sauna. No conflicts, no, no problem in my personal life, no problem in my business life. Everything was beautiful and I had this like, whoo. And I, and then it showed me there's times where you don't have that, where you're irritable, where you're, you're tired, where you're sick, where you're hurt. There's all these different-

    4. TV

      Hmm.

    5. JR

      ... frequencies that you have and it made me realize like you think about your health and you think about like how you feel and whether or not you're present. You think of it as just like, it's better to just be this way. But you don't realize that you're achieving a certain frequency. I was achieving a certain frequency at, at that moment and I realized like this is attainable and this is what I should strive for and that I could stay at this frequency. But one of the things it was telling me is to don't drink.

    6. TV

      Hmm.

    7. JR

      It was like right when I was there, it was like don't drink. 'Cause if you're drinking right now, you're gonna, you're gonna kill this frequency. It's gonna dull it. Like you might have less inhibitions, but it will dull this frequency.

    8. TV

      Wow.

    9. JR

      It was very interesting. It was like one of them weird mushroom moments.

    10. TV

      Yeah.

    11. JR

      Where the mushroom's like, "Hey, I, this is probably something you should think about."

    12. TV

      Yeah.

    13. JR

      Because I don't think you think about it this way. You just indulgent, you know, you do this, you do that, you have a slice of pizza-

    14. TV

      Yeah.

    15. JR

      ... you eat a meatball sub, you're fine. What, but what's going on with your, your overall energy when you do that? You really want your energy to be at the m- the best possible state, but you don't think about it that way.

    16. TV

      Right. But we, yeah, you don't think about it exactly like that way, but we do think about it in ways like, like our attitude. Like we have little words we use to describe-

    17. JR

      Mm-hmm.

    18. TV

      ... like kind of like elements of it I guess?

    19. JR

      Yeah. Yeah.

    20. TV

      But I wonder in the future if there will be a way that we can measure whatever that frequency is. Like-

    21. JR

      Hmm.

    22. TV

      ... sometimes it feels like we're kind of primitive in the understand, in the like the quantifying of, um, like we take our temperature, you know?

    23. JR

      Mm-hmm.

    24. TV

      Like just in things that we-

    25. JR

      Blood pressure.

    26. TV

      Yeah, in, in little things that we use to evaluate us. Sometimes, uh, I feel like we're on a plane that feels really old sometimes.

    27. JR

      Hmm.

    28. TV

      Like there should be like another-

    29. JR

      Yeah.

    30. TV

      ... plane where we start to m- Like is there a number for what my frequency is today? Because you kind of feel that. It's like where you operate at and-

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