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Joe Rogan Experience #1998 - Ali Siddiq

Ali Siddiq is a stand-up comic, writer, and public speaker. His new special, "The Domino Effect II: Loss," is available now on YouTube.

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Jun 27, 20243h 18mWatch on YouTube ↗

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0:00 – 1:25

HBO passes, YouTube wins: Ali Siddiq’s special goes viral

Ali Siddiq 0:00 (drumming music) Joe Rogan podcast. Check it out.

Narrator 0:04 The Joe Rogan Experience.

Joe Rogan 0:06 Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night. All day. (rock music) Hey. What's happening?

Ali Siddiq 0:13 What's happening?

Joe Rogan 0:14 How you doing?

Ali Siddiq 0:14 I'm doing great.

Joe Rogan 0:16 You are a perfect example of how sometimes the universe throws you a little curveball and it turns out to work out better for you.

Ali Siddiq 0:23 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 0:23 We were talking about it before, right before the show, and I wanted to congratulate you on the success of your special.

Ali Siddiq 0:28 Thank you.

Joe Rogan 0:29 Because you were in this position where HBO had decided not to air it because you had opinions. And they said, "Well, we don't agree with your opinions, so you can't have opinions that are different than ours."

Ali Siddiq 0:40 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 0:41 You didn't even say anything... I didn't think it was the... It was your feelings on things, which I feel like you're allowed to have. And boom, you put it on YouTube, and boom. How many, how many views does it have now?

Ali Siddiq 0:51 Um, first one, 8.8 million.

Joe Rogan 0:55 Million. 8.8 million. You know what the odds of you getting 8.8 million on HBO are? Zero.

Ali Siddiq 1:02 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:02 It's zero. It's zero. They don't have anything to get, unless you're on the fucking Game of Thrones premiere.

Ali Siddiq 1:08 Yeah. I was ready to do math in my head and everything. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:11 (laughs)

Ali Siddiq 1:12 I was, I was thinking, it was like, "Zero. Don't even think about it."

Joe Rogan 1:15 Zero. It's never... I t- ... I mean, maybe you gotta go back to like, Sam Kinnison. Maybe his got eight million. Maybe.

Ali Siddiq 1:24 Wow.

1:25 – 3:44

Platform censorship and the advertising/government pressure loop

Joe Rogan 1:25 Yeah. I mean, not that many people watch those shows. But YouTube is beautiful. I mean, they'll fuck you on a lot of different things. They, they, they'll, they'll pull you for discussing legitimate medical studies. Like r-... This, this guy got pulled. Did you see that thing? I, I tweeted it. He was talked... He be, he got pulled off of, uh, YouTube. They killed his whole channel for reading Lancet studies on psychiatric drugs.

Ali Siddiq 1:50 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:50 Bro, it's crazy. It's crazy.

Ali Siddiq 1:52 So they, they did a study on?

Joe Rogan 1:53 Well, it was on children and psych medications. It was on children, and I believe it was SSRIs, you know, which is antidepressants.

Ali Siddiq 2:02 Are they d-... Are they prescribing those to children now?

Joe Rogan 2:05 (sighs) They've been prescribing them for children. They've do-... Been doing it for a long time.

Ali Siddiq 2:08 Oh, okay.

Joe Rogan 2:08 But they, they do not like when people discuss-

Ali Siddiq 2:11 That you can discuss.

Joe Rogan 2:11 ... the negative side effects on YouTube. If YouTube... I'm, I would assume advertising pressure. That's the only thing that makes sense to me, is that...

Ali Siddiq 2:19 You can discuss, um, getting the belt or getting whipped, but you can't discuss the negative side effects of a drug?

Joe Rogan 2:29 Isn't that wild?

Ali Siddiq 2:30 I think that's crazy.

Joe Rogan 2:31 You could've f- if... Yeah, you could openly discuss being abused as a child, being beaten.

Ali Siddiq 2:36 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 2:37 Yeah, so this gentleman, uh, what's his name? Roger McFillin? Uh, Doctor Roger McFillin. Um, he was... Uh, so this is what he said. "Our YouTube channel was terminated in less than 24 hours. No warnings, explanations, or strikes, after we posted a video highlighting published science, black box warnings, and known adverse reactions of antidepressants for youth. Why do you think this was censored?" And then what's weird is that YouTube responded underneath it. They, they responded, "Hey, here to let... Here to help." (laughs)

Narrator 3:11 (laughs)

Ali Siddiq 3:11 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 3:11 "Let me know your YouTube channel URL. We'll see what we can find. Here's how to find it." Like, no, they killed his whole channel.

Ali Siddiq 3:17 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 3:18 He said, "You terminated my Y-" I don't under-... Uh, like, saying you, it's probably a person, right? So it's probably not that person. But it says, "You terminated my YouTube channel for pro- posting published scientific literature. It's for reasons like this that YouTube is losing the public trust." (sighs) Man, it's that, that dance of advertising, you know? That's the dance, the dance of advertising and, and government control. It's kind of spooky.

Ali Siddiq 3:42 (sighs)

Joe Rogan 3:42 It's kind of spooky shit.

3:44 – 8:27

Trust, race, and the debate over regulating the internet

Ali Siddiq 3:44 Well, I'm, I'm, I'm... Well, I've been living in a neighborhood that's been government controlled for a long time. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 3:52 (laughs)

Narrator 3:52 (laughs)

Ali Siddiq 3:52 Nothing really spooky to us. We like, "Oh, regular-"

Joe Rogan 3:56 Regular life.

Ali Siddiq 3:56 ... government nonsense."

Joe Rogan 3:58 Yeah, not good.

Ali Siddiq 3:59 Yeah. Yeah, like we... This is the reason why we don't trust anything.

Joe Rogan 4:02 Yeah.

Ali Siddiq 4:04 Like brown people, Black people, we just don't... Ah. Like, soon as you say it, like, soon as you... Not trusting it.

Joe Rogan 4:10 Well, it's for good reason.

Ali Siddiq 4:12 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 4:12 It's not like everything's going great and nobody trusts the government.

Ali Siddiq 4:17 Yeah. Like, but a lot of people are pro-government. Like, government everything.

Joe Rogan 4:21 (sighs) Well, I think they just sold a narrative, you know? I think they get... Sold a narrative, and they, they think anti-government is bad, so that, they're, they're pro-government. And I've had some maddening discussions with intelligent people that I respect, where they, they're saying the government should regulate the internet. I'm like, "What the fuck are you talking about? The same people that are engaging in insider trading-

Ali Siddiq 4:43 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 4:43 ... they should regulate the internet? Are you outta your fucking mind?" How crazy that is?

Ali Siddiq 4:49 (laughs) Who-

Joe Rogan 4:50 It's like the-

Ali Siddiq 4:50 Who said that? (laughs) Who said that? Like-

Joe Rogan 4:52 The guy used to be the publisher of Rolling Stone magazine, man. In the sex- '60s and the '70s, when Rolling Stone was the counterculture. He was telling me that they should regulate the internet. We had the most maddening conversation, and I respect him so much, and I love him so much for what he did in the past.

Ali Siddiq 5:09 I think that was connected to, you know, the internet kind of destroying magazine sales.

Joe Rogan 5:15 Hmm. It could be. But it's also... (sighs)

Ali Siddiq 5:20 I think that was-

Joe Rogan 5:20 I think it's an ideology, man. I think it's an ideology. I think these people have in their head that good government with good people is good. And they're just... The problem is bad government and bad people. But we've never had... I mean, what was the fucking last time where you were 100% satisfied with all the things the government was doing, that they were doing everything they said they were gonna do? Even if the president wants things done when they're running for office, those things never happen once they get in office.

Ali Siddiq 5:45 That's, that's a very white question. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 5:48 (laughs)

Ali Siddiq 5:48 I can tell you... (laughs) There's no way you're asking me that. Like, were we ever satisfied? Like-

Joe Rogan 5:52 Never.

Ali Siddiq 5:53 ... never.

Joe Rogan 5:54 Never. Well, maybe Kennedy. You know, Kennedy gave people hope.

Ali Siddiq 5:57 (sighs)

Joe Rogan 5:57 Seemed like he was giving people hope. But I mean, that was before my time. That was before your time.

Ali Siddiq 6:02 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 6:02 He was killed four years before I was born.

Ali Siddiq 6:04 Did, um... Did you like Carter?

Joe Rogan 6:07 ... well, the thing about Carter is, if you listen to Carter talk, and this is, goes back to Rolling Stone magazine, because Hunter S. Thompson went to Jimmy Carter's, uh, campaign speech. And he, it was so moving to him that he actually went out to his car and got his tape recorder and brought it back in and started listening and recording it. And I think, I don't think any president has the ability... I mean, there's a reason why the government is set up the way it's set up. It's set up so the president can never become a tyrant, so the president can't make his own laws or they can't make the... This is how the, the, the government is divided. But this is the concept behind the beginning of the country, the be- the beginning of the country. I think even if you're a good person, you're in a bad job. You're in a bad job with a bad machine, and that machine wants to make money. And if it's making money by selling people drugs, or it's making money by going to war, or it's making money by fucking finagling the economy-

Ali Siddiq 7:04 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 7:04 ... in some bizarre way.

Ali Siddiq 7:07 Any time there's something to gain on the other end without public knowledge, it's gon' be a problem.

Joe Rogan 7:15 Of course, that's the game.

Ali Siddiq 7:17 It's gon' be like the sleight of hand trick.

Joe Rogan 7:18 That's the game.

Ali Siddiq 7:19 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 7:19 That's the game they're in. I mean, to pretend they don't do that, you know?

Ali Siddiq 7:23 I, I've, I felt like some things shouldn't be on the internet though. Like, so I'm like, "Damn, did, is nobody regulating this shit?" Like (laughs) -

Joe Rogan 7:31 For real.

Ali Siddiq 7:31 ... like (laughs) , like a lot of things that people just, like I don't know what a lot of people are, like have followers for, like-

Joe Rogan 7:38 Mm-hmm.

Ali Siddiq 7:39 ... 'cause they, they so far to the craziness, it's insane. You be like, "What in the hell?"

Joe Rogan 7:43 That's true.

Ali Siddiq 7:45 Like-

Joe Rogan 7:45 That's true, but what's the alternative? The alternative is like... Here's the, the best thing about those crazy people. You and I can talk about those crazy people, "Look at these crazy bitches." And then people can listen to us talk about'm and they go, "Yeah, these people are crazy." I did, I kinda thought the world was flat for a few minutes. (laughs)

Ali Siddiq 8:00 Yeah. The-

Joe Rogan 8:02 (laughs)

Ali Siddiq 8:03 (laughs) Like, it's some people on the internet, I'm like, "Say man, God-

Joe Rogan 8:06 Yeah.

Ali Siddiq 8:07 ... damn, what are you talking about?" Like, and-

Joe Rogan 8:11 Yeah.

Ali Siddiq 8:11 ... well this, you know? And then there's other people that have some sense, but so...

Joe Rogan 8:15 You gotta be able to figure it out yourself. The problem is most people don't thi-, well, and rightly so, don't think that most people can figure it out by themselves.

Ali Siddiq 8:22 Oh, man.

Joe Rogan 8:22 There's a large percentage of our population that's easily swayed. That's why cults work.

8:27 – 11:10

Cults, religion, and why people join things that go wrong

Ali Siddiq 8:27 Oh, man. You know, I, and I always wondered like, like, like when people say they selling dope, I be like, "Like, for real?" Like th-, like that, that, it's passe. Like with a cult, it's like I be thinking that it's p-, like what, when, why would I join a cult when it's never been proven to be a good thing?

Joe Rogan 8:46 (laughs)

Ali Siddiq 8:46 Like, it, like show me all the suc-, the good successful cults. Like (laughs) it, it's just like, it, man, all I, all I gotta do is just see one bad cult and I'm like, "You know something? Nah, I don't, I don't wanna go." Like-

Joe Rogan 9:01 Well if you wanna expand that.

Ali Siddiq 9:03 It's crazy.

Joe Rogan 9:04 Religion, religion is successful cults, 'cause they, someone's... Listen, if, if there is, let's just ex- imagine, just for the sake of this conversation, that there is a religious scripture that is 100% translated directly from God. Well, if that's true, if there's one, that means all the other ones are wrong and all the other ones are cults.

Ali Siddiq 9:27 No, see, the thing is this, people don't know why things tie in together. Now you can have some side stories, some people who done just created some side things-

Joe Rogan 9:36 Right.

Ali Siddiq 9:36 ... for their own benefit. But it's a, it-

Joe Rogan 9:38 Like the Mormons.

Ali Siddiq 9:39 ... it's like a, a longevity of, hey, this is all the same line of things. And it, and it, you know, transcends to the next, to the next generation. But then it's these things that once the, the prophecy stopped at some point, and then it's like people can claim themselves to be prophets with none of the other attachment. Like, all the other prophets got the same thing, someone spoke to them in the night.

Joe Rogan 10:07 Wow, yeah.

Ali Siddiq 10:07 And then (laughs) they have, uh, uh, they have a, they have some p- power at-

Joe Rogan 10:13 Yeah.

Ali Siddiq 10:13 ... that part, particular time. It's like these people can just say, "Hey, I'm a prophet."

Joe Rogan 10:18 Yeah.

Ali Siddiq 10:18 "Well, who spoke to you?" "I don't know. It was a, it was a voice coming through the wall." Maybe you live in-

Joe Rogan 10:23 (laughs)

Ali Siddiq 10:23 (laughs) maybe you live in thin apartments. I don't know where you... But it, like, and then they can just, "What is your power?" Like, "Who are your, who are the people that you're supposed to have?" And it, it's no power. It's-

Joe Rogan 10:35 All you had to do is be charismatic.

Ali Siddiq 10:39 But that's not, that's not the... In prophecy, that's not the, the, (laughs) that's not the criteria. It's like, "Hey, I'm, I'm looking for somebody charismatic." (laughs) It's not going, God's doing. It's all... (laughs) That's not the job, being charismatic.

Joe Rogan 10:55 Right, that's not the job, but-

Ali Siddiq 10:56 But in, with this society, it's the job. Like, "Hey-"

Joe Rogan 11:00 But don't you think it's always been like that?

Ali Siddiq 11:02 No, I thought, I think they were, it was, they didn't even wanna do it. Like (laughs) , Noah didn't wanna build no ark, he was doing something else.

Joe Rogan 11:09 No, well-

Ali Siddiq 11:10 (laughs) It's like-

11:10 – 18:12

Ancient floods, Younger Dryas, and ‘advanced’ lost civilizations

Joe Rogan 11:10 See, the thing about Noah and the ark though, if you go back to that, that story is very similar to a story that's in the Epic of Gilgamesh.

Ali Siddiq 11:18 Yes.

Joe Rogan 11:18 And most likely what the story is about i- the Great Flood seems to very much be real, very much be real. And there's a lot of physical evidence and there's a gentleman named Randall Carlson who's been on my pod- have you ever seen any of those episodes?

Ali Siddiq 11:30 No, I haven't.

Joe Rogan 11:30 He's been on my cont- uh, podcast many times. He's an expert in asteroid collisions. And this, this time in history where after the, this time, there's all these stories of floods. It aligns directly with this thing called the Younger Dryas and the Younger Dryas Impact Theory. The Younger Dryas is a time period around 11,800 years ago where they think the Earth got hit by comets and they think civilization got basically wiped out. And it makes sense 'cause it, first of all makes sense physically... So sorry if people have heard this before, I beat this fucking horse to death, but there's a lot of evidence when they do core samples on the Earth. At l- at that time period, there's a high level of iridium, which is very rare on Earth, but very common in space. And there's also nano diamonds, which, which occur when there's an impact, when something hits. And this is all over the world.

Ali Siddiq 12:19 I-I 100% believe in this, but every time I hear nano diamonds... (laughs)

Joe Rogan 12:26 (laughs) What do you think? What do you think when you hear nano diamonds?

Ali Siddiq 12:29 It seem like you're selling jewelry-

Joe Rogan 12:31 (laughs)

Ali Siddiq 12:31 ... in the middle of the mall. "Hey, buddy, buddy, what-" (laughs)

Joe Rogan 12:34 Well, these aren't diamonds, these are nano diamonds.

Ali Siddiq 12:35 These are nano diamonds. They- they different. But yes, I- I believe that the earth has been hit by comets. We- we in a-

Joe Rogan 12:42 Yeah.

Ali Siddiq 12:42 ... we in space. How can you not? It's-

Joe Rogan 12:44 There's evidence.

Ali Siddiq 12:45 It's- it's evident when this happens.

Joe Rogan 12:45 There's evidence. There's tons of evidence. There's tons of evidence. There's a... They found, uh... Was it Greenland or Iceland, that massive, uh, impact that they found? The earth's been hit so many times, man. It wasn't just the Yucatan one that killed the dinosaurs. It's been many, many, many, many, many, many, many times it's been hit. And in fact, this comet shower that we go through every year, 31 kilometer, 19-mile-wide meteorite crater discovered under a kilometer of Greenland ice had a l- had long puzzled scientists. The Huwafa crater was exceptionally well-preserved despite glacier ice being incredibly effective at erosion. That's interesting. Damn, that's big. 19 miles, is that what it said?

Ali Siddiq 13:28 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 13:29 Yeah, there's a ton of those, man. They're all over the world. They- there's a big one that's outside of Australia that they found, giant craters where it just... It totally makes sense. It totally makes sense. So this guy, along with this guy named Graham Hancock, who's also been on the podcast many times, a good friend of mine, he has a documentary called, uh, Ancient Catastrophe. Is that it? It's not... Apocalypse, right? Ancient Apocalypse. I always fuck those up. Ancient Apocalypse, that's on, uh, Netflix. It's amazing. And it's all talking about, like, these insane structures that people built in Africa, in Asia, all over the world, in Turkey, they... These insane structures that are... that predate modern civilization. These are like 5,000 years before we think Mesopotamia emerged. Huge stone columns, huge structures that they know for sure were 11,000 years old.

Ali Siddiq 14:25 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 14:25 The show's amazing. It's an amazing show.

Ali Siddiq 14:27 I think I watched this.

Joe Rogan 14:29 It's really good. And it's... You know, he only goes... He only touches the surface 'cause there's so many of these all over the world, and Egypt is the best example.

Ali Siddiq 14:37 He means... The best example of it.

Joe Rogan 14:38 Egypt is a fantastic example because there's stuff that's under the sand that's even older than the massive stuff that's above the stand. And the stuff under the sand that they find when they dig deeper, i- it's a totally different style of building.

Ali Siddiq 14:52 This is what the X Clan used to rap about.

Joe Rogan 14:55 Hmm. Yeah.

Ali Siddiq 14:57 Yeah. Them Poor Righteous Teachers, that whole (clears throat) Brand Nubian. This is the, you know, the pyramids and building of the stones and Egypt, the whole Egyptian culture, Timbuktu, the whole thing. So-

Joe Rogan 15:12 Yeah.

Ali Siddiq 15:12 ... yeah. It's been around for a long time.

Joe Rogan 15:14 That's the wild shit. The wild shit is that if it wasn't for those stones, if everybody lived like we live today in glass houses and shit, there'd be nothing left.

Ali Siddiq 15:22 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 15:22 There'd be nothing. What would you find in like a regular house made out of wood and glass? What the fuck is gonna be there in 10,000 years?

Ali Siddiq 15:27 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 15:28 Zero. Zero. There'd be nothing left, but you'd find nails. "Oh, look, I found a nail." What'd you-

Ali Siddiq 15:33 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 15:33 What would you find? You'd find a few things, but most of it would be consumed by the earth.

Ali Siddiq 15:37 Yeah, most of it.

Joe Rogan 15:38 But those guys, they figured out... They figured out something that no one... They bullshit that they could figure out how to do that today.

Ali Siddiq 15:46 What if it-

Joe Rogan 15:46 They don't know how to do that today.

Ali Siddiq 15:47 Well, if somebody just came up with the whole, "Let's build it with- with wood," but it was probably stone. Like, in Haiti they build with stone. They still build with... Jamaica, they still build with- with, um, stone, with the whole house made out of cement. Most places do that, that has, you know, tropical-

Joe Rogan 16:03 Well, they have hurricanes.

Ali Siddiq 16:04 Yeah, they have tropical-

Joe Rogan 16:05 Yeah, they have hurricanes.

Ali Siddiq 16:05 They have hurricanes.

Joe Rogan 16:05 Their houses have to be sturdy as fuck.

Ali Siddiq 16:07 Yeah. So I don't know what was going on in Egypt at that time when they was building like that.

Joe Rogan 16:12 I think they were beyond advanced. I think we are... W- uh...

Ali Siddiq 16:17 (coughs)

Joe Rogan 16:17 Graham Hancock has this amazing quote. He said that human beings are a species with amnesia.

Ali Siddiq 16:23 Oh, yes. For sure.

Joe Rogan 16:24 For sure.

Ali Siddiq 16:24 Oh, for sure.

Joe Rogan 16:25 And I think the way we've gone today technologically with like phones and microphones and l- video cameras and shit, like we've gone into an electronic technology.

Ali Siddiq 16:35 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 16:35 I think they went into another technology that was different, a different path, but way more powerful. They were able to move stones out of the mountains and move them 500 miles. They don't have any fucking idea how they did it.

Ali Siddiq 16:47 The necessity, you know, we're figuring out things from necessity.

Joe Rogan 16:52 That, but I think thousands of years of thinking. I think, you know, w- when we think about the Industrial Revolution and we think about the way the world was just 2,000 years ago to now, I think those people were recovering. I think those people 2,000 years ago were recovering from shit that happened thousands of years before that, where people were just knocked back into barbarism, just survival of the fittest, just wild shit, 'cause there was nothing left. We live in a Mad Max apocalypse, even worse. Nuclear winter. When- when those things hit into the ground, the massive floods come. It also kicks up dust into the atmosphere. Nothing grows. People were probably cannibalizing each other.

Ali Siddiq 17:33 (clears throat)

Joe Rogan 17:33 It was probably horrific.

Ali Siddiq 17:34 Oh, for sure. Um, you ever read the book, um, The Ice Age and the Inheritance?

Joe Rogan 17:39 No.

Ali Siddiq 17:39 This is- this is where it talks about people, um, how they went into the Ice Age, and then they had to start cannibalizing each other 'cause there was nothing growing and all of these other things. Like, wow, that's- that's... What... Do you think we'd survive that now? Like, that's what... Is that where the purge-

Joe Rogan 17:56 I think you and me might be s- We might survive. I know a lot of people that are gonna get eaten.

Ali Siddiq 18:00 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 18:00 'Cause some people can fucking keep it together and some people can't, you know?

Ali Siddiq 18:05 Yeah, it's gonna...

Joe Rogan 18:06 It's gonna be hard.

Ali Siddiq 18:07 (clears throat)

Joe Rogan 18:07 And it's not gonna be fun. And life might not be worth living in comparison.

Ali Siddiq 18:11 Yeah, in comparison.

18:12 – 26:30

Apocalypse thinking: disasters, survival, and why trucks beat sports cars

Joe Rogan 18:12 So that's the thing, like, if you were... if you lived on the Great Plains in the 1800s and you were a Native American, that was your whole life. That's all you knew. You knew how to hunt buffalo. You d- you know how to make tipis. You knew how to live off the land. That's h- all you knew.If you took some fucking person from the east side of Manhattan, some person that works some cushy office job-

Ali Siddiq 18:32 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 18:32 ... and you said, "Jerome, this is your new life. You're gonna live on the plains and you're gonna make your own arrows, and you, you're, you're gonna go f- fucking run around and try to shoot 'em into buffalo. And there's no doctors."

Ali Siddiq 18:44 So is this what Naked and Afraid is about?

Joe Rogan 18:47 (laughs)

Ali Siddiq 18:48 Is the... Are they... (laughs) Are they getting ready for the apocalypse?

Joe Rogan 18:52 No.

Ali Siddiq 18:52 Like-

Joe Rogan 18:52 They're just exploiting dummies. They're just having fun with people's dicks. (laughs)

Ali Siddiq 18:57 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 18:58 And blurring, blurring them on the TV. It's crazy. That show's crazy. That show's crazy. It's so dumb.

Ali Siddiq 19:03 And then Naked and Afraid XL, they got like 13 people out. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 19:07 (laughs)

Ali Siddiq 19:07 You gotta meet up and form a tribe, like... (laughs)

Joe Rogan 19:10 Oh. Yeah, they could do something like that. People would go... They would go evil real quick. If there was competing tribes, people would go evil real quick.

Ali Siddiq 19:18 I think it's gonna... I- if it, if it jumps... No. Okay. Well, during, during Katrina, it was survival of the fittest.

Joe Rogan 19:29 Yes.

Ali Siddiq 19:30 D- during this flood in, um, Houston, it was survival of the fittest.

Joe Rogan 19:34 Yes.

Ali Siddiq 19:35 It's, it's been some times where-

Joe Rogan 19:37 Yeah.

Ali Siddiq 19:37 ... people have shown they colors.

Joe Rogan 19:39 Yes.

Ali Siddiq 19:40 You know, and-

Joe Rogan 19:40 In small pockets. Yeah.

Ali Siddiq 19:42 Yeah. Like my, um, my friend, he used to brag about having this Maserati and when the flood happened, his Maserati was floating down the street. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 19:53 (laughs)

Ali Siddiq 19:53 And I was in my truck. I'm like, "Hey, you want me to come pick you and your Maserati up? 'Cause yo- you, you in a bad position, my boy."

Joe Rogan 20:00 (laughs)

Ali Siddiq 20:00 'Cause it... In Texas, you need a truck, you know? And it was survival. He, he couldn't move nowhere, so he needed help.

Joe Rogan 20:06 Yeah, when the, the freeze came out here, I was having the time of my life. I loved it. When there was snow everywhere and ice on the streets.

Ali Siddiq 20:14 Yeah, true.

Joe Rogan 20:14 'Cause I have a 1995 Toyota Land Cruiser-

Ali Siddiq 20:17 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 20:18 ... that I had built like as a apocalypse vehicle.

Ali Siddiq 20:21 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 20:21 It's lifted, it's got off-road tires-

Ali Siddiq 20:24 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 20:24 It's got steel bumpers. It's got a winch. Yeah.

Ali Siddiq 20:29 Yeah. So yeah, you was having a good time.

Joe Rogan 20:30 Big ass gas tank. Huge gas tank.

Ali Siddiq 20:33 (laughs) You was having a good time.

Joe Rogan 20:34 I was having a great time, 'cause that car's meant for that. That... It was like my golden retriever when he sees the snow. When he sees the snow, he's like, "Woo." He rolls around on his back. It's like he is having a party. It's the best thing he's ever seen.

Ali Siddiq 20:46 Man.

Joe Rogan 20:46 That's what it's like when my truck saw that snow. My truck was like, "Yee-haw." (laughs)

Ali Siddiq 20:51 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 20:51 Everybody else is like in Corvettes, they're sliding into oncoming traffic. Uh-

Ali Siddiq 20:56 Yeah. That's what happens when you have one of them little low built cars or sports car-

Joe Rogan 21:00 Mm-hmm.

Ali Siddiq 21:01 ... and you don't have a off-road vehicle.

Joe Rogan 21:04 Yeah.

Ali Siddiq 21:04 Something that can really... that's sturdy that can move things.

Joe Rogan 21:07 Yeah.

Ali Siddiq 21:07 Like I have a truck in this.

Joe Rogan 21:08 Yeah.

Ali Siddiq 21:09 My truck is built for that.

Joe Rogan 21:10 If you're only gonna have one vehicle in Texas, a truck is the way to go.

Ali Siddiq 21:13 Oh yeah, big time.

Joe Rogan 21:14 It really is. It... Just in case. Just in case.

Ali Siddiq 21:17 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 21:17 It's the sign of the most pampered society that people have cars that you can't even fit luggage in and, and they're just fast, and they ha- like, they, they're f- it's a r- you have a race car, sir. Why are you driving around town in a fucking race car?

Ali Siddiq 21:34 Man.

Joe Rogan 21:34 Where you going? (laughs)

Ali Siddiq 21:35 Hey, man. Nothing like getting out of a truck in a tuxedo.

Joe Rogan 21:39 Mm. Yeah. Right.

Ali Siddiq 21:41 (laughs) With, with boots on. That's what I-

Joe Rogan 21:43 (laughs)

Ali Siddiq 21:43 That's what I see guys, I'm like, "Man, that's crazy." But man, a truck is the way to go.

Joe Rogan 21:48 People don't want to think about things going sideways, but they have all throughout history. All throughout history, there's been natural disasters, there's been, you know, wars, there's been crazy shit all throughout history and we-

Ali Siddiq 21:59 So why don't people wanna think about that?

Joe Rogan 22:01 'Cause we like to think about what's in front of us right now. The, the human mind is set up to take... The human mind is set up essentially for survival, right? It's a, it's... And we, we have the exact same brains as people that lived 10,000 years ago. So the people that lived 10,000 years ago, if they in fact were hunter and gatherers, and they probably were hunter and gatherers because the people before them were far more advanced and they were like rebooting society. That's what I think. But those people, that life that they lived was all about get some fucking food, find out what the, what the dangers are around you right now in terms of your enemies and, and predators, and get some fucking food and feed your family and try to stay alive. That's all anybody wanted. They just wanted to stay alive. So we have that in our head. And shit like climate change and UFOs, it's like, ugh, what am I gonna do with that? Shit like, uh, what if, what if ever the power goes off? Yeah, but the power's on now. Shut the fuck up. I gotta deal with now. I gotta deal with right now. We're designed for the now.

Ali Siddiq 22:57 I, I don't think like that. I, I think long term.

Joe Rogan 23:02 Well, your, your guys experienced some very difficult moments in your life. That's what it is.

Ali Siddiq 23:06 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 23:06 You've experienced a lot of adversity.

Ali Siddiq 23:09 Yeah. I, I guess that's the, that's the reason, but I'm thinking, always thinking long term.

Joe Rogan 23:13 Yeah.

Ali Siddiq 23:13 I always got a... You know, like I'm Jason Bourne, like I'm on the move. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 23:19 (laughs)

Ali Siddiq 23:19 Get my passport and some cash and-

Joe Rogan 23:21 Yeah.

Ali Siddiq 23:21 And yeah, I'm, I'm, I'm not... I can't live for the now.

Joe Rogan 23:26 Oh.

Ali Siddiq 23:26 'Cause I used to do... I used to be like that. And that was, that was too fast.

Joe Rogan 23:33 Mm.

Ali Siddiq 23:34 Very... Way too fast.

Joe Rogan 23:35 Well, that's a young man's game.

Ali Siddiq 23:37 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 23:37 Young man's game is the now. You know? Talk to a 19-year-old kid, they, they're not thinking about f- fucking climate change.

Ali Siddiq 23:43 Oh, I wish somebody would've told me at 19, "Hey, listen, climate change."

Joe Rogan 23:48 (laughs)

Ali Siddiq 23:48 Yeah, maybe my tomatoes will be able to survive.

Joe Rogan 23:52 (laughs)

Ali Siddiq 23:52 It, it... I, I think, you know, with having a, a healthy love for the elderly, 'cause I, I would, you know, prefer to be one, one day, you know, I would like to set things up for those people that's doing it now for when I, when I get there.

Joe Rogan 24:08 Yeah.

Ali Siddiq 24:08 I, I don't wanna wait and then get there at the end of it and be struggling, "Well, I'm 65 and I don't understand what's going on." 'Cause comics, most comics don't have a retirement plan.

Joe Rogan 24:18 Most comics don't even have a monthly plan.

Ali Siddiq 24:20 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 24:21 Comics are the wildest fucking people I know.

Ali Siddiq 24:25 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 24:25 They're the wildest people I know. They spend all their money. (laughs)

Ali Siddiq 24:29 And, and, and it was cra- it was crazy. Tha- that's very true. That is very... (laughs) That is very true.

Joe Rogan 24:35 Very true. (laughs)

Ali Siddiq 24:36 It... You know, I, I can't even think of all the comics, because I'm a, I'm a planner. How many comics that have come to me, 'cause they know I'm a planner and they just went out and just, just... Some wild shit. Like, I'm just... "Hey man, um, I'm living in LA now." "What? I just saw you Tuesday." "Yeah, I know." And like, (laughs) "Where you living at?" "I don't know, I'm just out here." (laughs)

Joe Rogan 24:58 (laughs)

Ali Siddiq 24:58 What the hell you talking about? And then a month later, "Hey man, I'm calling you from s- s- somebody else's phone." (laughs)

Joe Rogan 25:09 (laughs)

Ali Siddiq 25:09 "You think you can send me $300 so I can get a ticket to come home?" Like...

Joe Rogan 25:13 Ugh.

Ali Siddiq 25:14 "Oh, how I'm gonna get it to you?" "Hey man, you gonna have to wire it to..." this and that. And like, Good Lord, have mercy.

Joe Rogan 25:21 Some comics think that if they go to a spot, things will be different.

Ali Siddiq 25:24 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 25:25 You know? Like... (laughs) My wife and I lived in Colorado once, for a little while, and we lived in a, like a log house on the top of a mountain. And my wife had this idea that when she got in that log house, she would start making bread.

Ali Siddiq 25:40 Joe, you wild, man. (laughs) You think she just moved to a log-

Joe Rogan 25:43 Yeah.

Ali Siddiq 25:43 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 25:44 I did. The only thing that fucked me over was she got pregnant, and when women are pregnant at very high altitude, this is at 8,000 f- I think 8,800 feet. It's very high. It's real rough on them, real bad. It's like the flu, every day.

Ali Siddiq 25:57 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 25:57 And we went back to LA, and when we went back to LA for like a week or two, she was fine. And then we went back to Colorado, kicked right back in. I was like, "Oh, no." And then I read that, um, Colorado, s- specifically Denver, has a very high rate of, uh, uh, unusually high rate of premature births bec- they, that they attribute to the high altitude. It's rough. It's rough on women. So we had to get out of there. If it was for me, it was just me by myself, I'd still be up there. I woulda never started a podcast. I'd still be up there living in the woods.

Ali Siddiq 26:25 Making bread.

Joe Rogan 26:26 I loved it. I loved it.

Ali Siddiq 26:26 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 26:27 I loved that Land Cruiser. I'd just be like sitting there, chilling.

26:30 – 30:14

Slowing down, performer momentum, and building a life beyond the road

Ali Siddiq 26:30 Man, 'cause that's, that's the life that I'm going towards.

Joe Rogan 26:33 I love it. Nature.

Ali Siddiq 26:34 Just being somewhere, being able to farm and grow my own vegetables and-

Joe Rogan 26:39 Yes.

Ali Siddiq 26:39 ... go outside and have my own fields-

Joe Rogan 26:42 Yeah, man.

Ali Siddiq 26:42 ... and goats and things of that nature.

Joe Rogan 26:45 Yeah, that's very satisfying. There's something very satisfying, just even about the idea of that, that's very satisfying.

Ali Siddiq 26:50 Not having to be somew- I, I, I think that's the... I'm, I'ma slow down in 2025. I, I have a plan. Knock out, um, Domino Effect 3 and 4, um, and then kind of relax for a while. 'Cause m- I don't, I don't think people know this about comics. You probably experienced it. I'm... My body is on some type of clock where I have to be somewhere even when I don't, which is troublesome to me.

Joe Rogan 27:21 Mm.

Ali Siddiq 27:22 Like I've, I've gotten up and packed all my things up and didn't realize that I was already where I'm supposed to be, 'cause I'm... My body is like, yo, you... My mind, basically, is, "You supposed to be somewhere." So, uh, it takes me... If I go on vacation, it has to be for like two weeks, because the first week, it's, it's crazy. Like I'm... My mind is set on this clock of-

Joe Rogan 27:48 Yeah.

Ali Siddiq 27:48 ... you got a performance, you gotta be somewhere, you got this to do.

Joe Rogan 27:51 Yeah.

Ali Siddiq 27:51 You got this. And I don't, I don't like that feeling.

Joe Rogan 27:53 I got out of that. I got... Uh, that took... It took me a long time to get out of that, but I got out of that where I can enjoy a vacation. I can just chill. I got out of that where I can just sit in my backyard sometimes. Just sit down, have a, have a cocktail.

Ali Siddiq 28:06 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 28:06 Just relax.

Ali Siddiq 28:07 That's what I wanna do. Just be able to just sit and have nothing to do.

Joe Rogan 28:15 Yeah.

Ali Siddiq 28:15 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 28:16 I think there's a, there's real pleasure in that if you earn that. And you definitely have earned that. There's real pleasure in that. But people like you and people like me that are constantly on the road and constantly working on this and working on that, it's like you're, you're on this momentum. It's... And it's hard to hit the brakes. You're going downhill. Jesus fucking Christ. Like Flintstone breaks.

Ali Siddiq 28:35 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 28:35 You know, it's hard.

Ali Siddiq 28:36 Yeah, it, it is.

Joe Rogan 28:37 It's hard to slow down.

Ali Siddiq 28:38 And you gotta get to a place where you feel like... Or have a plan to get to a place where, okay, this is, this is it for a while.

Joe Rogan 28:46 Yeah.

Ali Siddiq 28:47 And then detox for that month, 'cause it's good... A month of not doing shows is, is horrible.

Joe Rogan 28:56 It's weird.

Ali Siddiq 28:57 It's hard- It's, it's horrible.

Joe Rogan 28:59 You get addicted to it, right?

Ali Siddiq 29:01 It, it, it took, it took me a while to get... It took me about two months to get, really get into the pandemic. B- but once I got into it, I didn't wanna come out of it. I was like, "Man, I'm, I'm cool, man. I can be with my family every day. I'm growing my vegetables, they're looking good. I'm, I'm having a good time. I don't have to be anywhere. I can just go to the front and pick up my camera. Hey, what's happening? And talk for a minute and then be done." Wow, it was beautiful. It was beautiful.

Joe Rogan 29:33 So why'd you go back?

Ali Siddiq 29:35 (sighs) The addiction of being a performer. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 29:41 (laughs) Killing.

Ali Siddiq 29:42 Addicted, addicted to-

Joe Rogan 29:43 Killing.

Ali Siddiq 29:43 ... to, you know, having to finish the story-

Joe Rogan 29:47 Yeah.

Ali Siddiq 29:47 You know, Domino Effect, you know, was in my mind and Domino Effect 2 was in my mind. So I was like, "Man, I gotta get back to, to working." I, I think they were tired of me. They were like, "Hey, he's he- he's been here too long." Maybe, maybe I, I was feeling cool and they was like, "Nah, he need to go work somewhere. He's doing everything. He's painting and building." Oh, I was building something every week. It was like... It was great.

30:14 – 42:43

Boredom, depression, and the lost art of playing outside

Joe Rogan 30:14 Well, that's why it always drives me crazy when people say they get bored. Like how are you bored?

Ali Siddiq 30:19 How can you get bored?

Joe Rogan 30:20 There's so much to do. So, you just gotta find the thing.

Ali Siddiq 30:24 And if it's not... I- I- I- If you don't have anything to do, just go experience something.

Joe Rogan 30:29 Yeah.... go check something out.

Ali Siddiq 30:31 I-

Joe Rogan 30:31 Get moving.

Ali Siddiq 30:32 Anything.

Joe Rogan 30:32 Don't stay home.

Ali Siddiq 30:33 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 30:33 Don't just stay put. That's why you're bored.

Ali Siddiq 30:36 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 30:36 There's nothing coming at you. Go somewhere.

Ali Siddiq 30:38 Stay put. I haven't heard that in a long-

Joe Rogan 30:40 (laughs)

Ali Siddiq 30:42 (laughs) My grandmother-

Joe Rogan 30:43 Stay put.

Ali Siddiq 30:43 ... back, she would say that, 'cause back then you couldn't go into, um, couldn't take children to liquor stores.

Joe Rogan 30:49 Mm-hmm.

Ali Siddiq 30:50 And my grandmother would get out of the car, she'd leave us in the car, "Hey, hey. Stay put." Be right (laughs) My grandmother told me be right here when she get back or she gonna beat our ass. It's like, like what? Like how'd that even come into the conversation (laughs) goes to the conversation, but she, we was right there when she got back.

Joe Rogan 31:06 Yeah.

Ali Siddiq 31:07 S- we stood put.

Joe Rogan 31:08 Stay put. Yeah, staying around and being bored, I mean, that's of course that's what's gonna happen. People wonder why they're depressed. I mean, there's a lot of reasons why people are depressed, but some people are depressed just because they're not doing anything.

Ali Siddiq 31:20 Oh, man.

Joe Rogan 31:21 You're just fucking f- filled with anxiety and, and you're just nothing, you're just like alone, just trying to f- think of something to do. Bored out of your fucking mind.

Ali Siddiq 31:30 Which is crazy. H- how you can't think of nothing to do when it's all outside? Like you can just, you can walk, I could walk out, it's 'cause I'm from that era when we used to play outside.

Joe Rogan 31:39 Yeah.

Ali Siddiq 31:39 So if I go outside, I'm gonna find something to do. If I find another person, we're going to find something to do.

Joe Rogan 31:48 Mm-hmm.

Ali Siddiq 31:48 If we find another person, oh, no, this is a football game. We, all we need is three people and a, and a ball, and we throwing this ball up in the air, it's a hot ball. The...

Joe Rogan 31:58 Yeah.

Ali Siddiq 31:58 Something, we're gonna do something. Something's happening.

Joe Rogan 32:01 Do you remember children's playgrounds, how fucking dangerous they were? With those metal contraptions, those houses you would climb inside of?

Ali Siddiq 32:10 (laughs) You thought that was dangerous?

Joe Rogan 32:11 Do they have those today?

Ali Siddiq 32:12 They, I think they, but they, they made out of rope now, and it's really dangerous.

Joe Rogan 32:17 Oh.

Ali Siddiq 32:17 It's some little corded rope is, it tear your hand up. Like, ah. I- I prefer the balls. I grew up with the balls. You could swing from them, you could... Yeah, that was my thing, the balls.

Joe Rogan 32:29 Mm-hmm.

Ali Siddiq 32:29 The, even the spinning... Oh, man, that... I think, I think I know people who dislocated they shoulder on the spinning thing, some big grown kid would come and spin all the kids (laughs) and if you didn't hold on and they keep spinning it, and then you just let go 'cause your head, you can't hold it no more. Ah. Those were the days of concussion, good concussions.

Joe Rogan 32:50 Yeah. Well, you learned. You definitely learned what hurts.

Ali Siddiq 32:53 Oh, definitely learned what hurt.

Joe Rogan 32:55 Yeah.

Ali Siddiq 32:56 Like you never let the big kids spin you ever again.

Joe Rogan 32:59 Those little big kids are mean.

Ali Siddiq 33:01 It was crazy. You, you six. This kid, this... "Hey, man, you know you 13, right?"

Joe Rogan 33:05 (laughs)

Ali Siddiq 33:05 "Like why are you over here?" (laughs)

Joe Rogan 33:07 Especially boys. Thir- teenage boys are the most fucking dangerous animals on the planet.

Ali Siddiq 33:13 Man, do you understand, I- I lived in some apartments where these, these guys, they were old, they was high teens, and when you went to go check the mail, 'cause the mailbox was by the pool, they would try to throw you in the pool. And you-

Joe Rogan 33:30 (laughs)

Ali Siddiq 33:33 ... and you... (laughs) And you would go check the mail, your mother would tell you, "Hey! Don't bring my damn mail back here wet." And it... (laughs)

Joe Rogan 33:38 (laughs)

Ali Siddiq 33:41 And you would have to sneak to the mailbox and open the mailbox so quietly, get the mail, and you hope didn't nobody see you, 'cause if anybody saw you they gonna say, "Hey, he at the mailbox!" (laughs)

Joe Rogan 33:57 (laughs)

Ali Siddiq 33:59 And now you gotta run, now you got to run because they gonna throw you in the pool. I remember one time I got thrown in and I tried to hold the mail up. (laughs) Yeah, I hated apartments, man. I hated them.

Joe Rogan 34:13 Teenage kids. They're fucking dangerous.

Ali Siddiq 34:15 Teenage kids was...

Joe Rogan 34:16 Because they have man strength and they just got it.

Ali Siddiq 34:20 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 34:20 They just got it. It's like lottery winners. They're like lottery winners. They just start spending all their money, you know?

Ali Siddiq 34:26 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 34:26 Lottery winners, but they go broke quick 'cause they're like, they never had this before and all of a sudden they have it.

Ali Siddiq 34:30 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 34:30 When you're 13 and all of a sudden you kind of have a man body and you're 14 and you're strong as shit, and, and little kids, you could just yell at them and tell them what to do and make them do shit, and smack them around.

Ali Siddiq 34:44 The problem, the problem is this, when you do that and then one of the kids that you hurt have uncles-

Joe Rogan 34:53 Mm-hmm.

Ali Siddiq 34:53 ... that's like close to your age, like you-

Joe Rogan 34:56 Yeah.

Ali Siddiq 34:57 ... you 14, 15, and his uncle is 19 and he don't care nothing about (laughs)

Joe Rogan 35:04 Yeah.

Ali Siddiq 35:04 ... about nothing. Man, it's like, "Yo, hey man, you hurt my, you hurt my little cousin?" And then (imitates punching)

Joe Rogan 35:13 Yeah.

Ali Siddiq 35:13 And he, definitely he got a little more skill, he got a little more tactics.

Joe Rogan 35:17 Yeah.

Ali Siddiq 35:18 Newfound male strength.

Joe Rogan 35:20 Yeah. They know how to use it.

Ali Siddiq 35:22 How?

Joe Rogan 35:22 A 19 year old's very different. You get 19 and 20 and, you know, th- those are men.

Ali Siddiq 35:29 I was, yeah, I was different. I was, I was a pretty good fighter at 19. It really... I started fighting maybe around 10. You get, you get some good ones. I remember when I knew the difference between being 13 and being 19 when it's these... my cousin got into a fight with these guys and this guy was thick. He, his... All this was like, really, he was a man.

Joe Rogan 36:00 (laughs)

Ali Siddiq 36:01 And he pushed me, it just in the stomach. (laughs) He just pushed me. He wasn't even trying to fight me. He was, "Everybody get back." And he pushed me and knocked all the air out me and I was like, "Man, what, what, what is happening?" And I (laughs) and I slowly started going to the ground. Like if he would've actually punched me, like if he was trying to, oh yeah, he would wipe me out.

Joe Rogan 36:23 Yeah.

Ali Siddiq 36:24 With body... 'cause body shots are something different. That's a different shot.

Joe Rogan 36:28 Oh yeah.

Ali Siddiq 36:29 People, people think that a body shot don't look as pretty as a, as a shot to the head but...... is just as devastating, if not worse.

Joe Rogan 36:39 Oh, yeah. Like that Ryan Garcia one, when Gervonta Davis caught him with that left hook to the body. People were saying that he quit.

Ali Siddiq 36:45 (scoffs) No.

Joe Rogan 36:46 He'd never been hit in the liver.

Ali Siddiq 36:48 Uh, uh...

Joe Rogan 36:48 Oscar De La Hoya quit the same way-

Ali Siddiq 36:50 Oscar, the same-

Joe Rogan 36:50 ... with, uh, Bernard Hopkins.

Ali Siddiq 36:51 ... with the same thing.

Joe Rogan 36:52 Same body shot.

Ali Siddiq 36:53 Same body shot.

Joe Rogan 36:54 Left hook to the body.

Ali Siddiq 36:54 And he tried to come-

Joe Rogan 36:55 Yeah.

Ali Siddiq 36:55 ... and he tried to take a, a step out that corner-

Joe Rogan 36:57 Yeah.

Ali Siddiq 36:58 ... and didn't, not the front of his foot even moved. He (laughs) he just went, he just went down.

Joe Rogan 37:03 Yeah.

Ali Siddiq 37:04 He was, he was, he was like, "Man, this is it."

Joe Rogan 37:05 And if you get kicked to the body-

Ali Siddiq 37:07 Oh, my God.

Joe Rogan 37:08 Oh, my God. A kick to the body is so goddamn devastating, especially a spinning back kick. You could literally pick someone up in the air. It's like they got hit by a car.

Ali Siddiq 37:20 Any kick-

Joe Rogan 37:21 Yeah.

Ali Siddiq 37:21 ... to the... Oh.

Joe Rogan 37:22 Wanna see me when I was 19? Show me that, show that video of me not gonna do that when I was 19. This is from, uh, a TaeKwonDo tournament. I hit this kid with a spinning back kick to the body. So you can see how hard... I mean, I'm 150 pounds, something, 155 pounds.

Ali Siddiq 37:37 155 pounds spinning around-

Joe Rogan 37:39 Yeah.

Ali Siddiq 37:40 ... coming at you full force. That's not-

Joe Rogan 37:41 That's what I'm saying.

Ali Siddiq 37:42 ... that's not light.

Joe Rogan 37:42 I'm saying even though I was light, like fairly light in comparison-

Ali Siddiq 37:46 God.

Joe Rogan 37:46 ... the a- the amount of power that you can generate with your legs and what your ribs are. Me and my daughter were doing this little art project, and we're, uh, drawing zombie, this, this zombie thing. We're making this painting together. And while we're doing this, we, we took a photo, uh, from the internet of, uh, an actual ribcage so we could d- do it right and draw it correctly.

Ali Siddiq 38:04 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 38:05 And I'm looking at it. I'm like, "Look at this fucking weird protection-"

Ali Siddiq 38:10 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 38:10 "... of all your squishy organs that are underneath there." I mean, when you really think about it, these little skinny ass bones are the only thing that's protecting your soft lungs and your liver. Like, this is me in the blue. This was me when I was 19. That dude was done. You get kicked in the body like that, you just... There's no volume on this.

Ali Siddiq 38:45 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 38:45 But y- you get kicked in the body like that, it's the worst feeling in the world. Everything shuts down. You, like, you can't move.

Ali Siddiq 38:51 (clears throat)

Joe Rogan 38:52 You can't move. Everything just goes... (imitates electric current) It just electrocute, electrocution goes through your body.

Ali Siddiq 39:00 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 39:00 Electric power, just the (slaps legs) , the thump. Just the compression of your organs. Just your whole body going into shock.

Ali Siddiq 39:08 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 39:08 Your whole spinal column getting jolted. Your legs don't work anymore.

Ali Siddiq 39:13 That's the problem when your legs don't work.

Joe Rogan 39:15 Yeah.

Ali Siddiq 39:15 They just feel like going-

Joe Rogan 39:16 They stop working.

Ali Siddiq 39:16 They just, just nothing.

Joe Rogan 39:18 You could tell them whatever the fuck you want. They don't, they're not listening.

Ali Siddiq 39:21 Y- you just, you trying to send-

Joe Rogan 39:22 Yeah.

Ali Siddiq 39:23 ... shock waves from your brain to your legs and then your legs like, "Man, if you don't get the fuck out of here-"

Joe Rogan 39:28 Yeah.

Ali Siddiq 39:28 (laughs) "I'm going down."

Joe Rogan 39:30 The most shocking to me was when I would get hit on the chin. 'Cause one time I got dropped, I got hit on the chin with a left hook and my legs just went like this, blip. They just shut off. Like, it wasn't like I got hurt.

Ali Siddiq 39:41 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 39:41 Like, "Oh my God, I'm hurt. I'm going down." They just went (snaps fingers) , shut off. The legs just shut off and I was like, "Jesus Christ. What the fuck was that?" They just stopped working. It was like my whole-

Ali Siddiq 39:50 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 39:50 ... system got short-circuited. They just go, boink. What a stupid design. The, this, just the, the jaw.

Ali Siddiq 39:58 The, the jaw is i- i- it's really the turning-

Joe Rogan 40:02 Yeah.

Ali Siddiq 40:02 ... of the... That's-

Joe Rogan 40:04 Sometimes not though, 'cause sometimes a straight shot, just on the tip of the-

Ali Siddiq 40:07 But it's-

Joe Rogan 40:08 ... jaw.

Ali Siddiq 40:08 ... it's the-

Joe Rogan 40:08 Knocks people out.

Ali Siddiq 40:09 ... it's the whole-

Joe Rogan 40:10 The compression of the head.

Ali Siddiq 40:10 Compression of the head-

Joe Rogan 40:12 Yeah.

Ali Siddiq 40:12 ... going back.

Joe Rogan 40:13 I think there's something else going on, too, specifically with the jaw, because you could spin someone's head around in other ways, like on the cheek, and it doesn't seem to have the same effect the jaw does. Jaw's-

Ali Siddiq 40:24 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 40:24 I think-

Ali Siddiq 40:25 Jaw's like-

Joe Rogan 40:25 ... nerves behind the jaw.

Ali Siddiq 40:27 'Cause it, uh, let me tell you. With what, whatever's going on in the jaw, I had a, a crown put in, in, in that he, the guy went too deep when he... (laughs)

Joe Rogan 40:40 When he did a root canal?

Ali Siddiq 40:42 No, when he, when he tried to, um, numb me up-

Joe Rogan 40:46 (sighs)

Ali Siddiq 40:46 ... to put it in, so he damaged the nerve that's in the lining of the jaw. And it took, like two months for that shit to heal.

Joe Rogan 40:56 Really?

Ali Siddiq 40:57 And it was excruciating. Like, it was excruciating.

Joe Rogan 41:00 Nerves are rough.

Ali Siddiq 41:01 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 41:01 Nerves take a long time.

Ali Siddiq 41:02 Oh, it was excruciating.

Joe Rogan 41:04 Yeah.

Ali Siddiq 41:05 It was like... And then I had to still perform, and I was doing meet and greets, and I was having to smile, so I'm... And this, this crown here, oh my goodness.

Joe Rogan 41:17 So did it make your face paralyzed?

Ali Siddiq 41:19 It was te- it, I was down by, I had to get all type of massages then, 'cause it was, the, the line of my jaw, they had to adjust it, like, maybe four times, 'cause it was terrible. It was terr- it was terrible.

Joe Rogan 41:31 A lot of-

Ali Siddiq 41:31 It was terrible.

Joe Rogan 41:32 A lot of people get that, um, what is that called? What's that disease when your, half your face goes-

Narrator 41:38 Bell's palsy.

Joe Rogan 41:38 Bell's palsy.

Ali Siddiq 41:38 Bell palsy.

Joe Rogan 41:39 That's crazy.

Ali Siddiq 41:41 Yeah, I know a couple guys with that.

Joe Rogan 41:42 Half your face just stops working.

Ali Siddiq 41:44 Yeah, I know a couple guys who had bell palsy.

Joe Rogan 41:46 Yeah. You don't realize (laughs) how lucky you are to be healthy-

Ali Siddiq 41:50 Man.

Joe Rogan 41:50 ... until you're not.

Ali Siddiq 41:52 Yup, you gotta take advantage of your health.

Joe Rogan 41:54 God.

Ali Siddiq 41:54 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 41:54 It's the most important thing, and that's another thing. People, they put all this effort into life and they don't put effort into that.

Ali Siddiq 42:02 Into health, which is crazy.

Joe Rogan 42:03 It's crazy.

Ali Siddiq 42:04 And then don't, don't even try to look at the things that can make you more healthy. Like, it... The amount of, the amount of research that people do. They, they rather scroll on their phone than just-

Joe Rogan 42:19 Yeah.

Ali Siddiq 42:19 ... look up something that can be helpful to them-

Joe Rogan 42:22 Something that's good for you.

Ali Siddiq 42:22 ... personally.

Joe Rogan 42:23 Yeah.

Ali Siddiq 42:23 Yeah. Which is weird.

Joe Rogan 42:25 (clears throat) It's the same thing. I think people don't think about the future that much. I mean, they do a little bit, kind of abstract.

Ali Siddiq 42:30 I, I, I hate that whole, "You gotta die from something." Well, you ain't gotta die fucking-

Joe Rogan 42:35 Diameters.

Ali Siddiq 42:35 ... miserable. You ain't-

Joe Rogan 42:36 Yeah.

Ali Siddiq 42:36 ... gotta die... (laughs) You get... (laughs)

Joe Rogan 42:38 Yeah.

Ali Siddiq 42:38 There's a lot of stuff that you don't have to die of.

Joe Rogan 42:40 Yeah.

Ali Siddiq 42:41 Yeah, that's... (laughs)

42:43 – 47:13

Eating culture: Texas food, Houston’s diversity, and road disappointments

Joe Rogan 42:43 Do you know there's more people dying today because they eat too much than starving to death for the first time in history?

Ali Siddiq 42:50 Wow.

Joe Rogan 42:51 Yeah.

Ali Siddiq 42:52 You know, Texas is a fat state.

Joe Rogan 42:54 Good food. Terry Black's Barbecue. What's up?

Ali Siddiq 43:00 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 43:01 (laughs) . (laughs) Food here is fantastic.

Ali Siddiq 43:04 You know people are dying from eating too much? "What's up? Terry Black's Barbecue." (laughs)

Joe Rogan 43:10 (laughs)

Ali Siddiq 43:10 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 43:10 I definitely eat too much when I'm there.

Ali Siddiq 43:12 Yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 43:14 Yeah. (laughs) We, we recreationally eat.

Ali Siddiq 43:16 Yes. We, we, we do.

Joe Rogan 43:18 Yeah.

Ali Siddiq 43:18 We, we, we go just, "Aw, man. This... Let me go see what this about."

Joe Rogan 43:21 Yeah, yeah.

Ali Siddiq 43:22 Like, uh, th- in Texas, th- we are the kings and queens of, "Let me just go check something out." Look, look-

Joe Rogan 43:29 Yeah.

Ali Siddiq 43:29 And going in there like, "Oh, man. They got a new donut place. Let's go see what they talking about." Like-

Joe Rogan 43:34 Yeah

Ali Siddiq 43:35 (laughs) Like, why? 'Cause we, we have a... We have the currency. We have the...

Joe Rogan 43:41 Got a nice surplus.

Ali Siddiq 43:42 Oh, man.

Joe Rogan 43:43 Yeah.

Ali Siddiq 43:44 F- like, it, it's hard to go on the road once you... I- Texas is the, is my home. This is where I grew up. Houston's n- um, especially. We have great food. So then you go on the road to other places and then they, "Oh, I'm gonna take you to the best barbecue place. I'm gonna take you to the best..." Then so you like, and then you get there, you like...

Joe Rogan 44:05 You're spoiled. (laughs)

Ali Siddiq 44:06 Damn.

Joe Rogan 44:07 There's some places that have good barbecue. Apparently Kansas City has good barbecue.

Ali Siddiq 44:10 Oh, nah, not, not really.

Joe Rogan 44:12 No?

Ali Siddiq 44:13 Not l-

Joe Rogan 44:13 It's a different thing, right?

Ali Siddiq 44:14 Not, not, not, not like here.

Joe Rogan 44:15 No. No.

Ali Siddiq 44:16 (laughs) Like-

Joe Rogan 44:17 Do you know where it came from?

Ali Siddiq 44:18 Uh, LA came... L.A. has the, the worst Mexican food of all times to me. Like the worst.

Joe Rogan 44:24 Really?

Ali Siddiq 44:25 Yes, the worst.

Joe Rogan 44:26 Do you like Tex-Mex or regular Mexican?

Ali Siddiq 44:28 Oh, regular Mexican. Because I lived in a Mexican neighborhood in Houston, and they had the best food.

Joe Rogan 44:34 Mm-hmm.

Ali Siddiq 44:35 Like, so I'm like, "I don't know. Them must be different... Them Aztecas, I don't know. They different Mexicans." (laughs)

Joe Rogan 44:39 There's some spots in California. You just gotta go to the spots where the Mexicans go.

Ali Siddiq 44:43 That's, that's what... Like, when I, when I'm in LA, eating some food, I'll be like, "This is y'all best? Okay, all right."

Joe Rogan 44:51 I used to go to this place in the valley called The Big Burrito. They got, like, Mexican soap operas playing. Nobody speaks English. They have, like, lengua quesadillas and-

Ali Siddiq 45:00 See, that's everywhere in Houston.

Joe Rogan 45:02 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Ali Siddiq 45:02 Then, so it's like that's the spot that I-

Joe Rogan 45:04 It's the real shit.

Ali Siddiq 45:04 That's... Yes. That's-

Joe Rogan 45:05 Yeah.

Ali Siddiq 45:06 ... where I'm gonna go. Like, I learned how to make tamales.

Joe Rogan 45:09 Medulla.

Ali Siddiq 45:09 I learned how to make tamales in this store called Fiesta from this Mexican lady who did not speak English. And she had a, she had a granddaughter translating what she wanted me to write down.

Joe Rogan 45:19 Mm-hmm.

Ali Siddiq 45:19 And that's how I learned. I got the pots. I, I grind 'em myself, the whole nine. So it's hard for me to go places and say they... I was in-

Joe Rogan 45:28 Mm-hmm.

Ali Siddiq 45:29 I was... Where I was at? St. Louis, Kansas City. They were talking about... Oh, think they was talking about, oh, they got the best soul food seafood place. I'm like, "Okay, cool. I'm gonna go." (sighs) I was... We eating. It was like this, "Hey, man, look, um, when you don't season your batter..." See, that's-

Joe Rogan 45:55 (laughs)

Ali Siddiq 45:55 That's, that's a normal thing everywhere in, in Houston. It's too many fish places that I can go to eat on the... And then when Maryland talking about, "We got the best blue crab." Man, I live on the Gulf. Do you, you don't think we have blue crab here? Like (laughs) you gotta imagine. We got a lot of food here, a lot of food.

Joe Rogan 46:14 Yeah.

Ali Siddiq 46:15 A lot.

Joe Rogan 46:16 It's a lot. It's a good place to eat.

Ali Siddiq 46:18 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 46:19 There's some good spots in the country. There's some great food places in the country.

Ali Siddiq 46:24 I'm picky.

Joe Rogan 46:25 Yeah.

Ali Siddiq 46:25 I'm sport-

Joe Rogan 46:25 Oh, well, you got a specific kind of food you like to eat?

Ali Siddiq 46:27 I, I eat... That's the problem. I eat everything, all cultures, if your food is good. I live in a place that happens to have all cultures, and they have great f- If I want Af- any type of African food, I can just go on Bissonnet in Houston. I can start at any end of Bissonnet and I'm gonna find good Af- We have five Chinatowns in Houston.

Joe Rogan 46:49 Really?

Ali Siddiq 46:49 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 46:50 There's five Chinatowns?

Ali Siddiq 46:51 Five Chinatowns.

Joe Rogan 46:52 Isn't Houston the third-biggest city in the country?

Ali Siddiq 46:55 It is.

Joe Rogan 46:55 That's a big country. That's a, that's a big city for, for this country.

Ali Siddiq 47:00 It, like, man, it, it's, it's a, it's a place.

Joe Rogan 47:05 Yeah.

Ali Siddiq 47:05 It's a place that has ev- all food. I got Cuban food. I got Colombian food. It's... Oh, man.

Joe Rogan 47:12 Well, Houston-

Ali Siddiq 47:12 Haitian food.

47:13 – 56:54

Comedy ecosystems: Houston’s legacy, the Mothership, and the UFO theme

Joe Rogan 47:13 ... was the best comedy scene in the world at one point in time, in the '80s.

Ali Siddiq 47:17 I still think that Houston is the greatest comedy scene. We put out a lot of great, a lot of great comics. We don't have the clubs anymore though. That's the thing.

Joe Rogan 47:25 Yeah, that's the thing.

Ali Siddiq 47:26 Yeah, Improv is there. Secret Group is there. Um-

Joe Rogan 47:30 They used to have The Laugh Stop.

Ali Siddiq 47:31 Yeah, they used to have The Laugh Stop.

Joe Rogan 47:32 Laugh Stop in River Oaks.

Ali Siddiq 47:33 The Laugh Spot.

Joe Rogan 47:34 Yeah.

Ali Siddiq 47:35 Um, yeah.

Joe Rogan 47:35 The Laugh Spot went under too?

Ali Siddiq 47:37 Yeah, both. Do you remember-

Joe Rogan 47:39 Oh.

Ali Siddiq 47:39 Do you remember Spellbinders?

Joe Rogan 47:41 I heard about it. I never went there.

Ali Siddiq 47:42 Yeah, Spellbinders. We had Spellbinders and then, uh, Improv bought out where the Spellbinders is, so it's The Improv and the, um, Secret Group. And then, I think they got a new comedy club called Rise.

Joe Rogan 47:55 Mm-hmm.

Ali Siddiq 47:56 Then Comedy Lounge on the north side.

Joe Rogan 47:59 Yeah. Well, The Improv's a great club.

Ali Siddiq 48:02 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 48:02 That's a great club. I did... That was the first club I did coming back. I did that in July. I did one weekend, and then I got real high and I got paranoid that I was gonna give people COVID, like my guests, 'cause I'm so selfish and I wanna do the road. Even though I was getting tested every day. I was like, "What if it, what if it slips? What if I get a, a false negative?" Um, so I stopped. But I had a great time there.

Ali Siddiq 48:23 Speaking of great clubs, I stopped in last night at the Mothership.

Joe Rogan 48:27 That's pretty wild, right?

Ali Siddiq 48:29 It's pretty nice. That's a nice comedy club.

Joe Rogan 48:32 Yeah.

Ali Siddiq 48:33 Very comic...... friendly. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 48:35 Yeah. Well- (laughs)

Ali Siddiq 48:37 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 48:37 ... comic built it. (laughs)

Ali Siddiq 48:40 Yeah. (laughs) Yeah.

Joe Rogan 48:41 And I built it specifically just for us. I didn't build it in... like a business. It was like, if I was, uh, my accountant, I would go crazy, 'cause all... I just... the whole idea was I just wanna break even. I just wanna build it and make it the most friendly place ever for comedians. So the comedians make plenty of money. Everybody's happy. Every-

Ali Siddiq 48:58 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 48:58 ... place is packed.

Ali Siddiq 48:59 It's a bea- it's a beautiful room. That's a beautiful curtain and the-

Joe Rogan 49:03 Thank you.

Ali Siddiq 49:03 ... the way the, the lights-

Joe Rogan 49:05 Yeah.

Ali Siddiq 49:05 Yeah, it's, it's dope. Then the, the name, Fat, Fat Man and Little Boy.

Joe Rogan 49:11 Yeah.

Ali Siddiq 49:12 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 49:12 You know where that's from?

Ali Siddiq 49:13 Yeah, the bomb.

Joe Rogan 49:14 But you know why?

Ali Siddiq 49:15 No, I don't know why you did it.

Joe Rogan 49:16 'Cause that's when the UFOs started coming.

Ali Siddiq 49:18 That's when the UFOs start coming?

Joe Rogan 49:19 Yeah. It's part of UFO folklore. That's why when you walk in the middle of the lobby, there's a giant UFO. That's what-

Ali Siddiq 49:25 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 49:25 ... that's for. Th- that UFO is a replica of that and that is a replica of the, uh, the craft that Bob Lazar, a guy who was a propulsions expert who was a whistleblower, who worked at Area S4 in Area 51 in the Nevada desert-

Ali Siddiq 49:40 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 49:40 ... back engineering alien spacecrafts, supposedly. But this is what he described and that's what we put in the... The whole club, the whole idea of the Comedy Mothership-

Ali Siddiq 49:49 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 49:49 ... the whole idea is it's... the club's themed on UFOs. That's the whole idea behind it. That's why there's this... that crazy-

Ali Siddiq 49:57 Yeah, I like that.

Joe Rogan 49:57 ... gateway over the, over the stage. Looks like a star port.

Ali Siddiq 50:01 I like that.

Joe Rogan 50:02 Yeah. When, when that... when they detonated the bombs in Hiroshima and Nagasaki-

Ali Siddiq 50:06 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 50:06 ... that's when UFOs started coming, and all the UFO activity ramped up substantially. And-

Ali Siddiq 50:12 Why do you think that is?

Joe Rogan 50:13 ... 'cause I think they realized we have nukes. Like, these crazy motherfuckers just wipe out-

Ali Siddiq 50:17 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 50:17 ... whole cities with nukes.

Ali Siddiq 50:20 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 50:20 These fucking assholes, they had to come down and go, "Whoa, whoa, whoa. What are you doing, man?"

Ali Siddiq 50:25 Yeah. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 50:26 "What the fuck are you doing?"

Ali Siddiq 50:28 That's why you think they came like, "Yo. Hey." (laughs) They... fucking nuclear weapon. "What the fuck is going on? Who gave them nuclear weapons?"

Joe Rogan 50:35 Yeah. Well, I think they realized we reached a level of technological sophistication that we could kinda kill everybody o- on Earth.

Ali Siddiq 50:41 Oh, you think, um, one of them went rogue and taught us?

Joe Rogan 50:45 I don't think one of them went rogue and taught us because there's a very... like, if you go and look at the Manhattan Project and you go and look at the history of splitting the atom, there's a, there's a v- very clear academic, uh, paper trail of how they figured this out, and all the, the trials that they did and what they did when they detonated the Trinity bomb, which by the way was one of the first times they ever discovered those nano diamonds. It's called thing they call Trinitite and it's, uh, it's like nuclear glass, they call it as well.

Ali Siddiq 51:13 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 51:13 And it's what happens when a massive impact hits sand, and it turns it into this kinda glass.

Ali Siddiq 51:20 I think that... 'ca- 'cause when they come with the... all the visits.

Joe Rogan 51:25 Yeah.

Ali Siddiq 51:27 What they... what were they visiting to do? 'Cause I know, you know, they are saying like, "We a- we caught one," or something like that.

Joe Rogan 51:34 Yeah.

Ali Siddiq 51:34 You know.

Joe Rogan 51:35 And-

Ali Siddiq 51:35 If you, if you did, did you try to torture him and get stuff out of him? Uh, what would be the thing? But what were the visits if they wasn't teaching something? 'Cause I, 'cause I believe in it. That's why I just don't know what they were visiting to do.

Joe Rogan 51:49 Well, the way I describe it is, um, there's a great show on Netflix called Chimp Empire. And Chimp Empire is all about these scientists that are embedded in this chimp tribe, and they've been there for 30 years. Because these scientists have been there for 30 years, the chimpanzees behave like there's no people there. They, they, they can get within 20 feet of these chimpanzees. Chimpanzees... as long as they don't eat in front of them and as long as they never present any sort of danger or raise their voices, and as long as they just stay back, the chimps don't pay attention to them at all.

Ali Siddiq 52:16 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 52:16 They just go throughout their life. And so these scientists are observing these chimpanzees and then these cinematographers captured all this. I think the way we treat chimpanzees is probably... and they let them kill each other. They do wild shit to each other, these chimps. They engage in territorial warfare.

Ali Siddiq 52:32 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 52:32 They fight over access to fruit. I think they- the, the aliens would treat us the same way. I think they would observe us, but not do anything. And I think if we did something fucking dangerous like nuclear bombs, then they would go, "Whoa. Okay." Because I think every... if, if alien societies do exist and intelligent life is out there in the universe-

Ali Siddiq 52:54 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 52:54 ... I think what happens is they keep getting more and more and more and more sophisticated. And in the beginning, they, they, they engage in tribal warfare. And as they become more and more sophisticated, their technology becomes far too dangerous to keep doing that same shit, and that's when they observe them. Because it's this perilous tipping point where we could completely wipe out life on Earth or we can evolve and get to the next stage of existence where we could coexist harmoniously, o- o- in... throughout the universe and join some fucking global, you know, th- some... rather universal group of beings.

Ali Siddiq 53:34 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 53:34 It's possible. But the only way that's possible is if we don't nuke ourselves.

Ali Siddiq 53:38 So with the chimpanzees, they observing. They... the scientists are there. They observing them.

Joe Rogan 53:44 Yeah.

Ali Siddiq 53:45 And they see them, but they don't pay attention. See, the problem with us that we scary. If I... we, we see an alien, I'm, I'm not gonna not pay attention. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 53:56 Of course.

Ali Siddiq 53:56 I'm gonna go, "Aah! Who the fuck?" (laughs)

Joe Rogan 53:59 Yeah.

Ali Siddiq 53:59 Because it's like-

Joe Rogan 54:00 Of course.

Ali Siddiq 54:00 It's like Men in Black. Like, the... they gotta look normal. I believe that it's, it's definitely other life forms. It's definitely other civilizations that's happening that we just not ready for yet. I don't think we ready.

Joe Rogan 54:13 I don't think-

Ali Siddiq 54:13 Our mi- our mind... We gotta-

Joe Rogan 54:14 ... right.

Ali Siddiq 54:14 We gotta be groomed.

Joe Rogan 54:16 Do you think that there's, like, all these UFO sightings and the government talking about UFOs and these most recent... this whistleblower that came out and said that there's a crash retrieval program and we have crashed vehicles and they've recovered alien bodies?

Ali Siddiq 54:30 You believe and I believe, but it's the old man like, "Hell nah."

Joe Rogan 54:34 Yeah.

Ali Siddiq 54:34 I'm not messing with it. He, he-

Joe Rogan 54:36 Yeah.

Ali Siddiq 54:36 And... 'cause he not ready for...... the difference. I mean, he... (laughs) it's, it's some hillbilly that just now got used to seeing Black people.

Joe Rogan 54:46 (laughs)

Ali Siddiq 54:48 He def- (laughs) he definitely show up anywhere there-

Joe Rogan 54:49 It's the gray people.

Ali Siddiq 54:51 ... he ain't ready for... He ain't ready for that. He ain't ready for this shit else.

Joe Rogan 54:53 Right. (laughs)

Ali Siddiq 54:53 He's like, "Hey, man. What else, man? Goddamn." Like, (laughs) like, he's like, "You got, like, six eyes, man. What is this shit?" Like, (laughs) like-

Joe Rogan 55:01 (laughs)

Ali Siddiq 55:01 ... he's like he not ready. He not ready, man. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 55:04 I wonder if that's what they're doing by show- by, by these sightings. I wonder if it's, like, a trickle effect. Like, if it's a little bit...

Ali Siddiq 55:10 Like with The Jetsons. We still don't believe in The Jetsons. And we... Like, nobody... So, they were already pulling people up on, on big screens talking to each other and shit on The Jetsons.

Joe Rogan 55:24 Yeah.

Ali Siddiq 55:24 And my mother was watching The Jetsons. Who thought that The Jets- so when it happened, you just, you just went and got it. "Oh, it's $800." You just got excited about having it instead of, "What the fuck?" Now, 'cause it's The Jetsons, it's, it's you in this time frame. It has to be a grooming. It's like, "Okay, let's see how they act with E.T. Okay, they seem to love that movie. Um, shit, let's throw Alf out there. Let's, yeah, let's see if they ready for a furry one." You know what I'm saying? (laughs) And then, then they-

Joe Rogan 55:58 Alf? I forgot about Alf.

Ali Siddiq 56:00 And then, and then it's like, "Hey, maybe The Muppets. Maybe The Muppets." Big-ass bird, you know what I'm... (laughs) Just rolling around with a talking Snuffleup- it's some, it's some... Then we go, we advance up to, um, what was that? The Man from Mars, and then The Great Gazoo.

Joe Rogan 56:18 Yeah.

Ali Siddiq 56:18 And then now, we up to Men in Black and, and this shit is all right, you know? 'Cause it's, you know, you... The man- i- i- it's a trickle. It's a, "Ah, we gotta keep feeding it to them." And then all of a sudden, you just see some- somebody just come down out the spaceship at McDonald's and be like, "Hey, what's up, y'all? Y'all good? Oh, let me get two Big Macs."

Joe Rogan 56:42 (laughs)

Ali Siddiq 56:42 "You know, 'cause we, we, we love y'all's Earth food." And then two and you be like, and then you be like, "Hey, man, you saw that?" He's like, "Yeah, I saw that shit last week." You know what I'm saying? (laughs) And then-

Joe Rogan 56:50 I love it.

Ali Siddiq 56:50 ... then that's it. Then now-

Joe Rogan 56:52 You get accustomed to it.

Ali Siddiq 56:52 Now you get accus- you gotta get accustomed to it.

56:54 – 1:11:34

Future tech anxiety: jet suits, self-driving cars, and automation replacing people

Joe Rogan 56:54 What year was The Jetsons supposed to be?

Narrator 56:56 I just looked up. Uh, it's made in 1962 and it was 100 years-

Joe Rogan 56:59 Let me guess.

Narrator 57:00 ... in the future.

Joe Rogan 57:01 100 years in the future? Oh, okay.

Narrator 57:03 So 2062.

Joe Rogan 57:04 Wow.

Narrator 57:05 And here's some of the stuff they had.

Joe Rogan 57:07 They had flying cars. They'll never give us that.

Ali Siddiq 57:09 Hell yeah.

Joe Rogan 57:09 They'll never give us that.

Ali Siddiq 57:10 Robotic dogs.

Joe Rogan 57:11 Yeah.

Ali Siddiq 57:12 Uh, pe- people drunk flying. Hell nah.

Joe Rogan 57:14 (clicks tongue) They had robotic vacuums, video calls, tablet computers, robotic house help. They had tablets?

Ali Siddiq 57:21 Yes.

Joe Rogan 57:22 I don't remember that.

Ali Siddiq 57:23 They worked for Sprancely Sprockets.

Joe Rogan 57:25 Flying cars, smartwatches, they had smartwatches. Drones, holograms, 3D-printed food. Oh, yeah, that's right.

Ali Siddiq 57:35 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 57:35 They had a pill cam. When you swallow it, it sees your body. Oh, look at George.

Narrator 57:40 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 57:40 He knows that's going up his ass.

Ali Siddiq 57:42 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 57:43 Flat screen TVs.

Ali Siddiq 57:44 Jet pack, flat screen TV.

Joe Rogan 57:46 Yeah.

Narrator 57:46 Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's all they have now.

Joe Rogan 57:47 Jet packs. Yeah.

Narrator 57:49 There's a few other articles that do the same thing, but-

Joe Rogan 57:52 J- f- these, the jet packs they have now, is that one dude that's got wings on his jet pack and that they've caught him, like, flying around buildings and shit?

Ali Siddiq 58:01 Yeah, I don't know about all that.

Joe Rogan 58:02 Like, he- you can-

Ali Siddiq 58:03 He wild as hell.

Joe Rogan 58:04 I don't think they last long. I think you can only stay up there for a few minutes, but you-

Ali Siddiq 58:09 (sighs)

Joe Rogan 58:09 ... you can fucking fly till you run out of gas.

Narrator 58:12 This was it or this was not it. Oh, yeah.

Joe Rogan 58:15 What is this one?

Narrator 58:15 That was 10 years ago.

Joe Rogan 58:17 What's the most recent?

Narrator 58:18 Uh.

Joe Rogan 58:19 What can they do now?

Narrator 58:21 I've seen that guy, I think, in... It might be Dubai, yeah.

Joe Rogan 58:24 Jet wing suit?

Narrator 58:25 I think it's-

Joe Rogan 58:25 Yeah.

Narrator 58:26 ... just, it's the best one there is right now.

Joe Rogan 58:27 That's it. That's it.

Ali Siddiq 58:29 Man, what the hell is-

Narrator 58:30 (laughs)

Ali Siddiq 58:30 It's fucking wild.

Joe Rogan 58:32 That is fucking wild, the jet wing.

Ali Siddiq 58:33 Now what type of pajama suit you got there?

Narrator 58:34 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 58:34 Is there a video of these guys using this?

Narrator 58:36 Well, I figured there would be on their website. I don't know, maybe on their Instagram.

Ali Siddiq 58:39 You definitely gotta have on a fireproof pajama set.

Joe Rogan 58:41 Look at that. Look at this motherfucker.

Ali Siddiq 58:43 Oh, yeah. That's sick.

Joe Rogan 58:44 Look at him. He's flying around buildings.

Ali Siddiq 58:45 That shit crazy.

Joe Rogan 58:47 Like, (squeak sound) what are the odds of those things failing? I mean, that's not like a Toyota Corolla. Like, those are-

Ali Siddiq 58:53 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 58:53 ... those things aren't reliable. (laughs)

Ali Siddiq 58:55 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 58:55 That's fucking emerging technology. You gonna be risking your life flying over highways?

Ali Siddiq 59:00 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 59:01 That's wild.

Ali Siddiq 59:03 Oh, hell nah.

Joe Rogan 59:04 But if that happens in the future, the problem is people are just gonna be doing it just like you see people on the highway, riding wheelies b- just flying down the r- the highway.

Ali Siddiq 59:12 Just wild shit.

Joe Rogan 59:13 Wild shit. They're gonna be doing that in the air, slamming into houses.

Ali Siddiq 59:17 That's why they not gonna give you flying cars. They're not-

Joe Rogan 59:19 Yeah.

Ali Siddiq 59:19 I'm, I'm really not messing with this car, this, "Just get in and just let the car drive for you." I'm not, I'm not trusting it like that.

Joe Rogan 59:26 Yeah, I don't trust it. I have it. I don't trust it.

Ali Siddiq 59:28 You have it?

Joe Rogan 59:28 Yeah, I have a Tesla.

Ali Siddiq 59:30 Did you just get in and just-

Joe Rogan 59:32 I can. You go (imitates digital sound) .

Ali Siddiq 59:33 And just, and say, "Hey, take me to-"

Joe Rogan 59:35 You enter in your address that you wanna go to, press auto navigate. Yeah.

Ali Siddiq 59:41 And it take off by itself?

Joe Rogan 59:42 Stops at red lights.

Ali Siddiq 59:43 Whoo. No.

Joe Rogan 59:44 Duh.

Ali Siddiq 59:45 Like, how the hell-

Joe Rogan 59:45 You're supposed to keep your hand on the wheel, though.

Ali Siddiq 59:47 You supposed to keep your hand on the wheel?

Joe Rogan 59:48 Yeah, just in case.

Ali Siddiq 59:50 Man, I be seeing people, you know, laid back.

Joe Rogan 59:53 (sighs) Sneezing.

Ali Siddiq 59:53 You know, like, "I can't. Whoo. I can't do it."

Narrator 59:56 I fuck with this one. I haven't been down there yet. Taxi.

Joe Rogan 59:57 So that's a driverless taxi?

Narrator 59:58 Yeah, I've seen them around Austin. I just-

Joe Rogan 59:59 I've seen them too.

Narrator 1:00:00 ... not getting in.

Joe Rogan 1:00:01 Do they just drive real slow?

Ali Siddiq 1:00:03 Man, I'm not, I'm not checking for it, fam. I'm not, I'm not doing it.

Joe Rogan 1:00:07 (sighs) Yeah, it's the future.

Ali Siddiq 1:00:09 No.

Joe Rogan 1:00:09 We're looking at that and we're saying-

Ali Siddiq 1:00:11 I, I think people don't realize that they get- they trying to get rid of you-

Joe Rogan 1:00:14 Yeah.

Ali Siddiq 1:00:15 ... with this. Like, like I don't do self-checkout, because it, it doesn't make sense to me. Like, why am I helping them get you outta here? And I know I wanna talk to a person if something go wrong.

Joe Rogan 1:00:24 Right.

Ali Siddiq 1:00:24 I don't do self-checkout. And plus, I don't come nowhere to work. I just got off work. Why would I be coming here to work?

Joe Rogan 1:00:30 Well, you're from a different generation.

Ali Siddiq 1:00:31 Man.

Joe Rogan 1:00:31 And the generation of kids that are coming up today, do you know how many of them Uber? They don't even have cars.

Ali Siddiq 1:00:35 Crazy.

Joe Rogan 1:00:36 A lot of people Uber now. They just take Lyfts and Ubers everywhere.

Ali Siddiq 1:00:40 Oh, okay. Okay, what? Okay, so this generation Uber, then the next generation Uber. Who knows how to drive the car in the third generation?

Joe Rogan 1:00:47 Well, then you're gonna be having these things.

Ali Siddiq 1:00:50 ... are they crazy, man.

Joe Rogan 1:00:50 There's gonna be a generation, whether it's our grandchildren or their grandchildren, that never drives. That no-

Ali Siddiq 1:00:56 That's crazy.

Joe Rogan 1:00:56 ... no one drives their own car. Everybody has an automated vehicle.

Ali Siddiq 1:00:59 That's, like, that's, like, writing. They take writing ... Pe- kids don't learn in school how to write and not-

Joe Rogan 1:01:04 They don't learn cursive.

Ali Siddiq 1:01:04 And they don't learn cursive. That's crazy to me.

Joe Rogan 1:01:06 Yeah.

Ali Siddiq 1:01:07 That's insane. That's insane. It's insane.

Joe Rogan 1:01:10 Well, they're all just typing on their phones and type it on the computer.

Ali Siddiq 1:01:12 That don't mean get rid of, um, writing.

Joe Rogan 1:01:14 No.

Ali Siddiq 1:01:15 That, that, that's crazy. Like, they took the clock out of the school 'cause, 'cause people have digital jun ... But you still want them to be able to tell time. You know, like, the America is not the world. Like, you know, you're gonna probably go somewhere else in the world, and you're gonna have to write something. Like, that's crazy.

Joe Rogan 1:01:31 And you see a clock and you're like, "What the fuck does that say?"

Ali Siddiq 1:01:33 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:01:34 (laughs)

Ali Siddiq 1:01:36 And then-

Joe Rogan 1:01:36 You're used to digital.

Ali Siddiq 1:01:37 And then when you used to get offended when people said, "Stupid Americans," now you're like, "I understand."

Joe Rogan 1:01:42 Yeah.

Ali Siddiq 1:01:43 What, what do you mean? Like, it's, it's cr- man, this country is crazy, man.

Joe Rogan 1:01:48 Well, I think there's some Americans that they go abroad, they just act like fucking assholes. You know, they think they're allowed to-

Ali Siddiq 1:01:54 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:01:54 ... 'cause they're in another country.

Ali Siddiq 1:01:55 And they ... See, I, I think-

Joe Rogan 1:01:57 They ruin it for everybody else.

Ali Siddiq 1:01:58 No, I think Locked Up Abroad has changed that whole ideology. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:02:02 Oh, yeah.

Ali Siddiq 1:02:03 Locked Up Abroad has changed ... "Oh, oh, you ... I can go anywhere and do whatever I wanna do." Like, you've, you've seen the show Locked Up Abroad?

Joe Rogan 1:02:09 Yeah.

Ali Siddiq 1:02:09 No. Watch a couple episodes.

Joe Rogan 1:02:10 Yeah.

Ali Siddiq 1:02:11 Watch a couple episodes and then go over to Yugoslavia (laughs) and see, see how you feel about that, man. It's ... And then when people get taken.

Joe Rogan 1:02:20 Yeah.

Ali Siddiq 1:02:21 Like, man, I don't, I don't go anywhere and don't check in with the embassy.

Joe Rogan 1:02:25 Really?

Ali Siddiq 1:02:25 Like, I, I need, I need to know, I need somebody to know where I'm at, man.

Joe Rogan 1:02:29 So when you go to a country to work, you check in with the embassy?

Ali Siddiq 1:02:31 Yeah, I'm gonna c- hey, I'm, I'm gonna tell, "Well, I need to know where y'all at and what's the rule."

Joe Rogan 1:02:35 Oh.

Ali Siddiq 1:02:36 Yeah, I need to know 'cause I'm, I'm not going somewhere and don't know where the embassy is. And I watched Jason Bourne. You got ... At least you can run to the embassy-

Joe Rogan 1:02:44 Yeah.

Ali Siddiq 1:02:44 ... and you're safe. At least in that. But if I go to Dallas, I live in Houston, if I go to Dallas, I'm checking in with the embassy. I'm not ...

Joe Rogan 1:02:52 (laughs)

Ali Siddiq 1:02:52 (laughs) I, I need somebody to know where I'm at, man.

Joe Rogan 1:02:58 Yeah.

Ali Siddiq 1:02:58 Like, I'm just not, I'm just not rocking with, um, being in this world without (laughs) somebody knowing my whereabouts. Even though I'm a grown man, I just, I'm gonna say something to someone, "Hey, I'm finna roll over here," 'cause I, I need a, I need a witness or an alibi. I need something. I just, I don't believe in being in the world by yourself. I just don't.

Joe Rogan 1:03:21 That's a good move. And the world is definitely not America either.

Ali Siddiq 1:03:26 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:03:26 You know, that's the thing.

Ali Siddiq 1:03:27 It's not.

Joe Rogan 1:03:28 Like, look what happened to Brittney Griner. That would not happen in America. Russians come to America and they do all kinds ... Like, Russians fight in the UFC almost every weekend, and no one cares. No one gets mad at them. No one, no one screams at them. No one throws things at them. They go out there. People cheer when they win. They, there's a ton of Russian fighters that are in the UFC.

Ali Siddiq 1:03:48 Y- y- you know, you know something about ... I ... Me and a friend of mine was talking, um, another comic, um, (laughs) Gerard G., and we was talking. He said, "Man, this, this is, this country is crazy." That when ... You remember when Floyd Mayweather fought Manny Pacquiao?

Joe Rogan 1:04:07 Yes.

Ali Siddiq 1:04:07 In the same country where they ... I'm talking about holding up the flag and United States all the way, the 73rd. We was talking. He said, "Man," he said it was the first, this was the first time he was at a, a fight party, (laughs) a white fight party. And this lady said, "I hope he kicks the shit outta Floyd." He said, "What?" He said, "I ... " It ... You couldn't find one Filipino in the world that was going for Floyd Mayweather, not one.

Joe Rogan 1:04:36 Yeah.

Ali Siddiq 1:04:36 But you could find a bunch of Americans, somebody who was-

Joe Rogan 1:04:39 Right.

Ali Siddiq 1:04:39 ... born and raised right in-

Joe Rogan 1:04:40 Right.

Ali Siddiq 1:04:40 ... Michigan, you could find a bunch of Americans who was wanting the Filipino to beat him.

Joe Rogan 1:04:44 That's true. That's a very good point. Filipinos are very proud.

Ali Siddiq 1:04:49 And-

Joe Rogan 1:04:49 Very nationalist people.

Ali Siddiq 1:04:50 Like, I was-

Joe Rogan 1:04:50 They love Manny Pacquiao.

Ali Siddiq 1:04:52 I'm ... Yes. I, like-

Joe Rogan 1:04:54 Yeah.

Ali Siddiq 1:04:54 My, my son, my son is a very gentle soul, and Manny Pacquiao was one of the ones I showed him 'cause he ... I, I don't know. To be a boxer, my, my 12-year-old, he doe- he doesn't really wanna beat you up. Like, I'm like, "But, asana, you're gonna have to hit people." "But Dad, you know, I'm just, I don't ..." I said, "Let me show you one of the most gentle people in the world with ... until he gets in that ring." (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:05:20 Yeah. (laughs) I know, right?

Ali Siddiq 1:05:21 And I showed him Manny Pacquiao and Mike Tyson. I was like, "Look, these are gentle people. And then they get in the ring and another button happens. That's how you gonna have to be."

Joe Rogan 1:05:32 Yeah. Did you see the Mayweather-Gotti thing yesterday?

Ali Siddiq 1:05:37 No, I didn't.

Joe Rogan 1:05:39 So John Gotti, the mobster-

Ali Siddiq 1:05:42 (gasps)

Joe Rogan 1:05:42 His grandson-

Ali Siddiq 1:05:42 Okay, the, the, the brawl. Yes.

Joe Rogan 1:05:44 Yeah. So what happened was, this is the end of the fight, but if you could ... See if you could find what caused it, because-

Narrator 1:05:50 I was just reading it.

Joe Rogan 1:05:51 ... there's a, there's a video that shows the end of the fight. And in the end of the fight, what happened was, if you just Google, uh, just tweet, like, put Mayweather-Pacquiao in Twitter, put i- ... you'll find it. Uh, excuse me, Mayweather-Gotti. Um-

Ali Siddiq 1:06:04 (clears throat) What caused it?

Joe Rogan 1:06:05 He was holding, so he wouldn't stop.

Narrator 1:06:08 Because Floyd was piecing him up.

Joe Rogan 1:06:08 Oh, Floyd was boxing him up. Yeah. So Floyd is just piecing him up. So Floyd, you know, I mean, even at 46, he's the greatest of all time. And this kid is really an MMA fighter. He's a tough guy. He caught Floyd a couple times with some little shots, but most of the ti- mostly, he's just getting boxed up, right? Boxed up by literally the greatest boxer of all time. But he was holding on quite a bit and wouldn't let go, and was trying to, like, hold and clinch and hit, which is something ... Like right here. Which is something you can do in MMA. So he's protecting himself from Floyd, but he's not letting go. And so Kenny Bayless gets tired of him not listening and not letting go, and he pushes him off, and he says, "That's it. I'm stopping this fight."That's it. You won't listen to me, I am calling this fight. So he goes crazy, and gets away from Kenny Bayless and just starts whaling punches at Floyd. Floyd catches him with a counter right there. Bang.

Ali Siddiq 1:07:03 Yeah, he knocked him way over, the head, he won't stand-

Joe Rogan 1:07:05 Yeah, well, the other guy got away too.

Ali Siddiq 1:07:07 (clears throat)

Joe Rogan 1:07:07 But, you know, I mean, it became a melee. And so then, there's fights in the ring, and then there's fights outside the ring, and there's all this cellphone footage of, footage of people brawling and sucker punching each other. (laughs)

Narrator 1:07:19 Saw some of that. That was...

Ali Siddiq 1:07:21 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:07:21 Just crazy.

Ali Siddiq 1:07:22 This, this, sometimes this be the... Um, they- uh... I'm gonna...

Joe Rogan 1:07:26 Yeah, here's the, these brawls outside. Everybody's fighting.

Ali Siddiq 1:07:29 Just random, just random brawls.

Joe Rogan 1:07:30 Just people just screaming and yelling at each other. But at the end of the day, uh, just, you know, he was just getting frustrated. Floyd was just boxing him up, which is what he does.

Ali Siddiq 1:07:41 That's what... You- you came into his sport-

Joe Rogan 1:07:44 Yeah.

Ali Siddiq 1:07:45 ... got into his arena. You crawled into the snake hole-

Joe Rogan 1:07:48 Yeah. Yeah.

Ali Siddiq 1:07:48 ... and then got mad at the snake (laughs) for biting you.

Joe Rogan 1:07:51 (laughs)

Ali Siddiq 1:07:51 "You can't, you can't bite me like that." Like, "You in my hole!"

Joe Rogan 1:07:54 Yeah, I don't know why he didn't listen, why he didn't let go. I don't know if they were talking shit to each other. I don't know what was going on. But Kenny said, "That's it. That's a wrap." And then everybody went crazy.

Ali Siddiq 1:08:05 That's crazy.

Joe Rogan 1:08:06 Including him.

Ali Siddiq 1:08:07 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:08:07 I bet he didn't expect that. Probably thought may- had they taken any... Well, there's no points, right? 'Cause it's an exhibition. So that's what's-

Ali Siddiq 1:08:14 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:08:14 What's interesting is Floyd's making more money than anybody, and he's boxing people who have no chance of beating them, and he's doing it as an exhibition. It doesn't even hurt his record.

Ali Siddiq 1:08:22 B- because of the drug-

Joe Rogan 1:08:25 Yeah.

Ali Siddiq 1:08:25 ... of boxing. Just like the-

Joe Rogan 1:08:27 Also money.

Ali Siddiq 1:08:28 Just like the bu-... I don't even think he needs... He don't need any money.

Joe Rogan 1:08:31 He spends so much money.

Ali Siddiq 1:08:33 Yeah, yeah, but he don't need any. Floyd-

Joe Rogan 1:08:35 Are you sure?

Ali Siddiq 1:08:36 Yeah, Floyd good.

Joe Rogan 1:08:37 I bet he's, if he's planned for the future, you gotta keep it coming in, if you're gonna keep spending the way he spends.

Ali Siddiq 1:08:44 Yeah, but I think he has a lot of other business interests that, that he can get money from-

Joe Rogan 1:08:49 Hopefully.

Ali Siddiq 1:08:50 ... in, in not just boxing. But it's the, it's the drug of getting... Floyd's still trained when he, even-

Joe Rogan 1:08:56 Yeah.

Ali Siddiq 1:08:56 ... when he doesn't have a, a fight.

Narrator 1:08:57 He posted this-

Joe Rogan 1:08:58 Yeah.

Narrator 1:08:58 ... a week ago, of all of the Air Force 1s he buys. He only wears them once-

Joe Rogan 1:09:02 (laughs)

Narrator 1:09:02 ... and then gives them away to someone.

Joe Rogan 1:09:04 (laughs)

Narrator 1:09:04 One fresh pair a day.

Joe Rogan 1:09:05 Come on, man. He needs that money.

Narrator 1:09:07 (laughs) He's got hundreds of pairs.

Joe Rogan 1:09:08 That money has to keep coming in if you're gonna live like this.

Narrator 1:09:10 It's not that expensive though, but...

Joe Rogan 1:09:12 He's only 46.

Ali Siddiq 1:09:14 The, I, I mean-

Joe Rogan 1:09:14 But he does this with everything, man.

Ali Siddiq 1:09:15 I don't think he-

Joe Rogan 1:09:15 He's got million-dollar watches.

Ali Siddiq 1:09:17 I don't think he buys every, every pair.

Joe Rogan 1:09:20 They given it to him?

Ali Siddiq 1:09:21 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:09:22 Oh.

Ali Siddiq 1:09:22 'Cause, 'cause then you get a video like that.

Joe Rogan 1:09:24 Right. That's smart.

Ali Siddiq 1:09:26 And then you get Floyd's Air Force 1s given away for charity. That's a tax write-off.

Joe Rogan 1:09:31 Hmm.

Ali Siddiq 1:09:31 There's all sorts of things that goes into that.

Joe Rogan 1:09:33 Yeah, you got a good point. But those million-dollar watches, they're not giving you those.

Ali Siddiq 1:09:37 They, they still, you know, worth whatever they were. Like, if you got eight of them-

Joe Rogan 1:09:43 Yeah.

Ali Siddiq 1:09:43 ... uh, you got-

Joe Rogan 1:09:44 Look at this. Look at all those diamonds. That's ridiculous. That's millions of dollars worth of diamonds.

Ali Siddiq 1:09:51 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:09:51 I mean, that is-

Ali Siddiq 1:09:52 That's crazy.

Joe Rogan 1:09:53 That's bonkers.

Ali Siddiq 1:09:54 That's crazy.

Joe Rogan 1:09:55 Yeah, look at this watch. Yeah, he's like-

Ali Siddiq 1:09:58 That's, you know something-

Joe Rogan 1:09:58 ... a professional baller.

Ali Siddiq 1:09:59 Like that, that watch right there is not like... I wouldn't wear it, 'cause it's not my thing.

Joe Rogan 1:10:06 Yeah.

Ali Siddiq 1:10:07 Even if, you know, I had it, I wouldn't wear it. It's just not attractive to me.

Joe Rogan 1:10:13 No, I'm not into blinged-out watches either.

Ali Siddiq 1:10:15 Nah.

Joe Rogan 1:10:16 I like mechanical watches. I like them metal.

Ali Siddiq 1:10:19 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:10:19 That's what I like. But, you know, I get it.

Ali Siddiq 1:10:23 Uh-huh.

Joe Rogan 1:10:23 Yeah. Hmm. Metal.

Ali Siddiq 1:10:25 Metal.

Joe Rogan 1:10:26 Yeah, they work.

Ali Siddiq 1:10:28 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:10:28 I like dive watches.

Ali Siddiq 1:10:29 Yeah. That's, that's why I wear a watch that you can dive in.

Joe Rogan 1:10:32 Well, I wear them so you set a timer. Like, if I wanna do something, I spin that little bezel, and I can set it for 15, 20 minutes. I can always look down and know how much time has passed. It's very convenient to have a little tiny watch.

Ali Siddiq 1:10:43 Very convenient.

Joe Rogan 1:10:44 It's great when someone's going on stage. You're like, "How long has he been up for?" Because sometimes you forget. You're in the green room.

Ali Siddiq 1:10:49 Oh, yeah. Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 1:10:49 I just look at my watch.

Ali Siddiq 1:10:50 Boom.

Joe Rogan 1:10:51 Yeah, I don't have to remember what time he went on stage. Okay, he went on stage at 09:07, so what time is it now? I don't have to do that. As soon as someone goes on stage, like, all right.

Ali Siddiq 1:11:02 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:11:03 Bam. Now I know. It's perfect.

Ali Siddiq 1:11:07 Perfect.

Joe Rogan 1:11:08 Dive watch literally is designed for comedians. It's great.

Ali Siddiq 1:11:11 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:11:11 Someone's going on stage, they're doing 15 minutes. You can go outside, hang out, smoke a joint, go, "He's at seven." You know?

Ali Siddiq 1:11:19 And that's the perfect thing. People don't understand. And that's, and these are the things that we get away from, using your brain, 'cause you-

Joe Rogan 1:11:26 Yeah.

Ali Siddiq 1:11:26 ... you know, take the clock down. Insane.

Joe Rogan 1:11:31 Well, that's the least of what's insane about schools today.

1:11:34 – 1:16:10

Schools, teachers, and redesigning systems before people become prisoners

Ali Siddiq 1:11:34 (sighs)

Joe Rogan 1:11:34 The biggest, the biggest insanity is that it's not a cherished position to teach people. It's not a position where you have the most qualified, the best people possible, and they get paid really well, because they have an incredible job. They're educating the young children, and that education can literally form the path that you go on for the rest of your life. Your experiences that you have in schools with good teachers, they can shape and form you in a way that changes your whole life. They can expose you to ideas that you never heard before, and it changes the way you think about things and changes the path of your life.

Ali Siddiq 1:12:08 It can do all of that with things. Or i- Okay, let's go to this point first. New Zealand, New Zealand has the best school system. It has teachers who get paid, and they also have the best teachers, 'cause they have people who want to be teachers. I think that, if it's not a position in this, in this country where it's made attractive, where people can, one, survive and actually have the, where they, where they really want to be teachers. I think that sometimes we have a lot of people... Like I grew up when... If- if the kids of the day, of today had my teachers...... I think everything will be cool. Because they ha- I had teachers that inspired thought and creativity and, and want- and they wanted to be teachers.

Joe Rogan 1:13:05 Hmm.

Ali Siddiq 1:13:05 Like, th- that's the biggest thing. When you have people who want to do their job.

Joe Rogan 1:13:11 Right.

Ali Siddiq 1:13:11 Or do there... Uh, uh, or it's more like a passion to them. Like every teacher I've ever known that was great would u- usually tell me that this is a love of... This is a labor of love. Like, "I love teaching. I'm a, I'm a teacher. This is what I was designed to do. I'm not waiting to do anything else." And if you have teachers that'll walk out for more money, you should also walk out for a better curriculum as well, if your desire is to teach children and to inspire the youth to be... Uh, a- and I, and I credit teachers for everything that I, that I am. You know? My mom's a teacher. So it's like, I'm... My friends are teachers. My sister's in Thailand right now teaching English. It's like, I come from that and I always loved... My science teacher was my coach too. He wasn't just the coach. He was the math... One year it was the math teacher. One year it was the history teacher. You know? It was people who desired and wanted to, to nourish children. And the pay, it definitely has to be increased but you have to increase the things of... The quality of what you paying for.

Joe Rogan 1:14:26 But don't you think that that's how you do it? If you wanna get better teachers with a better curriculum, don't you think it, you would incentivize them with more money so you would get more motivated people?

Ali Siddiq 1:14:37 No, I think you do both at the same time, that you change the criteria... You change the pay and you cr- and you change the criteria of what it is to be a teacher-

Joe Rogan 1:14:45 Yeah. Agreed. Yeah.

Ali Siddiq 1:14:46 ... at the same time.

Joe Rogan 1:14:47 Yeah, I agree.

Ali Siddiq 1:14:47 And, and then you, you put these kids in a, in a, in a system to where it's... Everything is nurturing, even down to the food. You take all these cafeteria workers out and you put chefs back there. You put some people and you teach them and, and, and give them time to digest... Just change the whole system. They, they should have an hour to eat.

Joe Rogan 1:15:09 Yeah.

Ali Siddiq 1:15:09 And they should get a four-course meal and they should be taught things while they eating. They should be in a, a very clean environment that you have... Man, I used to love that the custodian, when I was growing up, he always wanted to... He took pride in keeping the school clean. It wasn't a job that look, was looked down upon because he did everything. He was the maintenance man and the, and the custodian. And he used to be like, "Hey, man, I got this bathroom, um, clean here. Now y'all gonna stop pissing all over the damn..." (laughs) That's how he used to talk to us. We were in the fourth grade. "Hey, stop pissing all over the damn thing." And like, I'm like, "Yes, sir." You know? And he taught you hygiene in the bathroom.

Joe Rogan 1:15:49 Mm-hmm.

Ali Siddiq 1:15:49 Like you... I think that you should change... Like I see all these, these things where they changing how they house prisoners. I get that. But change how you teach children so where you don't have to house prisoners.

Joe Rogan 1:16:06 Yes.

Ali Siddiq 1:16:07 That's-

Joe Rogan 1:16:08 Yes.

Ali Siddiq 1:16:08 ... the goal. You, you doing

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