Joe Rogan Experience #1998 - Ali Siddiq

1. 0:00 – 1:25

   HBO passes, YouTube wins: Ali Siddiq’s special goes viral

   1. ASAli Siddiq0:00

      (drumming music) Joe Rogan podcast. Check it out.

   2. NANarrator0:04

      The Joe Rogan Experience.

   3. JRJoe Rogan0:06

      Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night. All day. (rock music) Hey. What's happening?

   4. ASAli Siddiq0:13

      What's happening?

   5. JRJoe Rogan0:14

      How you doing?

   6. ASAli Siddiq0:14

      I'm doing great.

   7. JRJoe Rogan0:16

      You are a perfect example of how sometimes the universe throws you a little curveball and it turns out to work out better for you.

   8. ASAli Siddiq0:23

      (laughs)

   9. JRJoe Rogan0:23

      We were talking about it before, right before the show, and I wanted to congratulate you on the success of your special.

   10. ASAli Siddiq0:28

       Thank you.

   11. JRJoe Rogan0:29

       Because you were in this position where HBO had decided not to air it because you had opinions. And they said, "Well, we don't agree with your opinions, so you can't have opinions that are different than ours."

   12. ASAli Siddiq0:40

       Yeah.

   13. JRJoe Rogan0:41

       You didn't even say anything... I didn't think it was the... It was your feelings on things, which I feel like you're allowed to have. And boom, you put it on YouTube, and boom. How many, how many views does it have now?

   14. ASAli Siddiq0:51

       Um, first one, 8.8 million.

   15. JRJoe Rogan0:55

       Million. 8.8 million. You know what the odds of you getting 8.8 million on HBO are? Zero.

   16. ASAli Siddiq1:02

       (laughs)

   17. JRJoe Rogan1:02

       It's zero. It's zero. They don't have anything to get, unless you're on the fucking Game of Thrones premiere.

   18. ASAli Siddiq1:08

       Yeah. I was ready to do math in my head and everything. (laughs)

   19. JRJoe Rogan1:11

       (laughs)

   20. ASAli Siddiq1:12

       I was, I was thinking, it was like, "Zero. Don't even think about it."

   21. JRJoe Rogan1:15

       Zero. It's never... I t- ... I mean, maybe you gotta go back to like, Sam Kinnison. Maybe his got eight million. Maybe.

   22. ASAli Siddiq1:24

       Wow.

2. 1:25 – 3:44

   Platform censorship and the advertising/government pressure loop

   1. JRJoe Rogan1:25

      Yeah. I mean, not that many people watch those shows. But YouTube is beautiful. I mean, they'll fuck you on a lot of different things. They, they, they'll, they'll pull you for discussing legitimate medical studies. Like r-... This, this guy got pulled. Did you see that thing? I, I tweeted it. He was talked... He be, he got pulled off of, uh, YouTube. They killed his whole channel for reading Lancet studies on psychiatric drugs.

   2. ASAli Siddiq1:50

      (laughs)

   3. JRJoe Rogan1:50

      Bro, it's crazy. It's crazy.

   4. ASAli Siddiq1:52

      So they, they did a study on?

   5. JRJoe Rogan1:53

      Well, it was on children and psych medications. It was on children, and I believe it was SSRIs, you know, which is antidepressants.

   6. ASAli Siddiq2:02

      Are they d-... Are they prescribing those to children now?

   7. JRJoe Rogan2:05

      (sighs) They've been prescribing them for children. They've do-... Been doing it for a long time.

   8. ASAli Siddiq2:08

      Oh, okay.

   9. JRJoe Rogan2:08

      But they, they do not like when people discuss-

   10. ASAli Siddiq2:11

       That you can discuss.

   11. JRJoe Rogan2:11

       ... the negative side effects on YouTube. If YouTube... I'm, I would assume advertising pressure. That's the only thing that makes sense to me, is that...

   12. ASAli Siddiq2:19

       You can discuss, um, getting the belt or getting whipped, but you can't discuss the negative side effects of a drug?

   13. JRJoe Rogan2:29

       Isn't that wild?

   14. ASAli Siddiq2:30

       I think that's crazy.

   15. JRJoe Rogan2:31

       You could've f- if... Yeah, you could openly discuss being abused as a child, being beaten.

   16. ASAli Siddiq2:36

       (laughs)

   17. JRJoe Rogan2:37

       Yeah, so this gentleman, uh, what's his name? Roger McFillin? Uh, Doctor Roger McFillin. Um, he was... Uh, so this is what he said. "Our YouTube channel was terminated in less than 24 hours. No warnings, explanations, or strikes, after we posted a video highlighting published science, black box warnings, and known adverse reactions of antidepressants for youth. Why do you think this was censored?" And then what's weird is that YouTube responded underneath it. They, they responded, "Hey, here to let... Here to help." (laughs)

   18. NANarrator3:11

       (laughs)

   19. ASAli Siddiq3:11

       (laughs)

   20. JRJoe Rogan3:11

       "Let me know your YouTube channel URL. We'll see what we can find. Here's how to find it." Like, no, they killed his whole channel.

   21. ASAli Siddiq3:17

       (laughs)

   22. JRJoe Rogan3:18

       He said, "You terminated my Y-" I don't under-... Uh, like, saying you, it's probably a person, right? So it's probably not that person. But it says, "You terminated my YouTube channel for pro- posting published scientific literature. It's for reasons like this that YouTube is losing the public trust." (sighs) Man, it's that, that dance of advertising, you know? That's the dance, the dance of advertising and, and government control. It's kind of spooky.

   23. ASAli Siddiq3:42

       (sighs)

   24. JRJoe Rogan3:42

       It's kind of spooky shit.

3. 3:44 – 8:27

   Trust, race, and the debate over regulating the internet

   1. ASAli Siddiq3:44

      Well, I'm, I'm, I'm... Well, I've been living in a neighborhood that's been government controlled for a long time. (laughs)

   2. JRJoe Rogan3:52

      (laughs)

   3. NANarrator3:52

      (laughs)

   4. ASAli Siddiq3:52

      Nothing really spooky to us. We like, "Oh, regular-"

   5. JRJoe Rogan3:56

      Regular life.

   6. ASAli Siddiq3:56

      ... government nonsense."

   7. JRJoe Rogan3:58

      Yeah, not good.

   8. ASAli Siddiq3:59

      Yeah. Yeah, like we... This is the reason why we don't trust anything.

   9. JRJoe Rogan4:02

      Yeah.

   10. ASAli Siddiq4:04

       Like brown people, Black people, we just don't... Ah. Like, soon as you say it, like, soon as you... Not trusting it.

   11. JRJoe Rogan4:10

       Well, it's for good reason.

   12. ASAli Siddiq4:12

       Yeah.

   13. JRJoe Rogan4:12

       It's not like everything's going great and nobody trusts the government.

   14. ASAli Siddiq4:17

       Yeah. Like, but a lot of people are pro-government. Like, government everything.

   15. JRJoe Rogan4:21

       (sighs) Well, I think they just sold a narrative, you know? I think they get... Sold a narrative, and they, they think anti-government is bad, so that, they're, they're pro-government. And I've had some maddening discussions with intelligent people that I respect, where they, they're saying the government should regulate the internet. I'm like, "What the fuck are you talking about? The same people that are engaging in insider trading-

   16. ASAli Siddiq4:43

       (laughs)

   17. JRJoe Rogan4:43

       ... they should regulate the internet? Are you outta your fucking mind?" How crazy that is?

   18. ASAli Siddiq4:49

       (laughs) Who-

   19. JRJoe Rogan4:50

       It's like the-

   20. ASAli Siddiq4:50

       Who said that? (laughs) Who said that? Like-

   21. JRJoe Rogan4:52

       The guy used to be the publisher of Rolling Stone magazine, man. In the sex- '60s and the '70s, when Rolling Stone was the counterculture. He was telling me that they should regulate the internet. We had the most maddening conversation, and I respect him so much, and I love him so much for what he did in the past.

   22. ASAli Siddiq5:09

       I think that was connected to, you know, the internet kind of destroying magazine sales.

   23. JRJoe Rogan5:15

       Hmm. It could be. But it's also... (sighs)

   24. ASAli Siddiq5:20

       I think that was-

   25. JRJoe Rogan5:20

       I think it's an ideology, man. I think it's an ideology. I think these people have in their head that good government with good people is good. And they're just... The problem is bad government and bad people. But we've never had... I mean, what was the fucking last time where you were 100% satisfied with all the things the government was doing, that they were doing everything they said they were gonna do? Even if the president wants things done when they're running for office, those things never happen once they get in office.

   26. ASAli Siddiq5:45

       That's, that's a very white question. (laughs)

   27. JRJoe Rogan5:48

       (laughs)

   28. ASAli Siddiq5:48

       I can tell you... (laughs) There's no way you're asking me that. Like, were we ever satisfied? Like-

   29. JRJoe Rogan5:52

       Never.

   30. ASAli Siddiq5:53

       ... never.
4. 8:27 – 11:10

   Cults, religion, and why people join things that go wrong

   1. ASAli Siddiq8:27

      Oh, man. You know, I, and I always wondered like, like, like when people say they selling dope, I be like, "Like, for real?" Like th-, like that, that, it's passe. Like with a cult, it's like I be thinking that it's p-, like what, when, why would I join a cult when it's never been proven to be a good thing?

   2. JRJoe Rogan8:46

      (laughs)

   3. ASAli Siddiq8:46

      Like, it, like show me all the suc-, the good successful cults. Like (laughs) it, it's just like, it, man, all I, all I gotta do is just see one bad cult and I'm like, "You know something? Nah, I don't, I don't wanna go." Like-

   4. JRJoe Rogan9:01

      Well if you wanna expand that.

   5. ASAli Siddiq9:03

      It's crazy.

   6. JRJoe Rogan9:04

      Religion, religion is successful cults, 'cause they, someone's... Listen, if, if there is, let's just ex- imagine, just for the sake of this conversation, that there is a religious scripture that is 100% translated directly from God. Well, if that's true, if there's one, that means all the other ones are wrong and all the other ones are cults.

   7. ASAli Siddiq9:27

      No, see, the thing is this, people don't know why things tie in together. Now you can have some side stories, some people who done just created some side things-

   8. JRJoe Rogan9:36

      Right.

   9. ASAli Siddiq9:36

      ... for their own benefit. But it's a, it-

   10. JRJoe Rogan9:38

       Like the Mormons.

   11. ASAli Siddiq9:39

       ... it's like a, a longevity of, hey, this is all the same line of things. And it, and it, you know, transcends to the next, to the next generation. But then it's these things that once the, the prophecy stopped at some point, and then it's like people can claim themselves to be prophets with none of the other attachment. Like, all the other prophets got the same thing, someone spoke to them in the night.

   12. JRJoe Rogan10:07

       Wow, yeah.

   13. ASAli Siddiq10:07

       And then (laughs) they have, uh, uh, they have a, they have some p- power at-

   14. JRJoe Rogan10:13

       Yeah.

   15. ASAli Siddiq10:13

       ... that part, particular time. It's like these people can just say, "Hey, I'm a prophet."

   16. JRJoe Rogan10:18

       Yeah.

   17. ASAli Siddiq10:18

       "Well, who spoke to you?" "I don't know. It was a, it was a voice coming through the wall." Maybe you live in-

   18. JRJoe Rogan10:23

       (laughs)

   19. ASAli Siddiq10:23

       (laughs) maybe you live in thin apartments. I don't know where you... But it, like, and then they can just, "What is your power?" Like, "Who are your, who are the people that you're supposed to have?" And it, it's no power. It's-

   20. JRJoe Rogan10:35

       All you had to do is be charismatic.

   21. ASAli Siddiq10:39

       But that's not, that's not the... In prophecy, that's not the, the, (laughs) that's not the criteria. It's like, "Hey, I'm, I'm looking for somebody charismatic." (laughs) It's not going, God's doing. It's all... (laughs) That's not the job, being charismatic.

   22. JRJoe Rogan10:55

       Right, that's not the job, but-

   23. ASAli Siddiq10:56

       But in, with this society, it's the job. Like, "Hey-"

   24. JRJoe Rogan11:00

       But don't you think it's always been like that?

   25. ASAli Siddiq11:02

       No, I thought, I think they were, it was, they didn't even wanna do it. Like (laughs) , Noah didn't wanna build no ark, he was doing something else.

   26. JRJoe Rogan11:09

       No, well-

   27. ASAli Siddiq11:10

       (laughs) It's like-

5. 11:10 – 18:12

   Ancient floods, Younger Dryas, and ‘advanced’ lost civilizations

   1. JRJoe Rogan11:10

      See, the thing about Noah and the ark though, if you go back to that, that story is very similar to a story that's in the Epic of Gilgamesh.

   2. ASAli Siddiq11:18

      Yes.

   3. JRJoe Rogan11:18

      And most likely what the story is about i- the Great Flood seems to very much be real, very much be real. And there's a lot of physical evidence and there's a gentleman named Randall Carlson who's been on my pod- have you ever seen any of those episodes?

   4. ASAli Siddiq11:30

      No, I haven't.

   5. JRJoe Rogan11:30

      He's been on my cont- uh, podcast many times. He's an expert in asteroid collisions. And this, this time in history where after the, this time, there's all these stories of floods. It aligns directly with this thing called the Younger Dryas and the Younger Dryas Impact Theory. The Younger Dryas is a time period around 11,800 years ago where they think the Earth got hit by comets and they think civilization got basically wiped out. And it makes sense 'cause it, first of all makes sense physically... So sorry if people have heard this before, I beat this fucking horse to death, but there's a lot of evidence when they do core samples on the Earth. At l- at that time period, there's a high level of iridium, which is very rare on Earth, but very common in space. And there's also nano diamonds, which, which occur when there's an impact, when something hits. And this is all over the world.

   6. ASAli Siddiq12:19

      I-I 100% believe in this, but every time I hear nano diamonds... (laughs)

   7. JRJoe Rogan12:26

      (laughs) What do you think? What do you think when you hear nano diamonds?

   8. ASAli Siddiq12:29

      It seem like you're selling jewelry-

   9. JRJoe Rogan12:31

      (laughs)

   10. ASAli Siddiq12:31

       ... in the middle of the mall. "Hey, buddy, buddy, what-" (laughs)

   11. JRJoe Rogan12:34

       Well, these aren't diamonds, these are nano diamonds.

   12. ASAli Siddiq12:35

       These are nano diamonds. They- they different. But yes, I- I believe that the earth has been hit by comets. We- we in a-

   13. JRJoe Rogan12:42

       Yeah.

   14. ASAli Siddiq12:42

       ... we in space. How can you not? It's-

   15. JRJoe Rogan12:44

       There's evidence.

   16. ASAli Siddiq12:45

       It's- it's evident when this happens.

   17. JRJoe Rogan12:45

       There's evidence. There's tons of evidence. There's tons of evidence. There's a... They found, uh... Was it Greenland or Iceland, that massive, uh, impact that they found? The earth's been hit so many times, man. It wasn't just the Yucatan one that killed the dinosaurs. It's been many, many, many, many, many, many, many times it's been hit. And in fact, this comet shower that we go through every year, 31 kilometer, 19-mile-wide meteorite crater discovered under a kilometer of Greenland ice had a l- had long puzzled scientists. The Huwafa crater was exceptionally well-preserved despite glacier ice being incredibly effective at erosion. That's interesting. Damn, that's big. 19 miles, is that what it said?

   18. ASAli Siddiq13:28

       Mm-hmm.

   19. JRJoe Rogan13:29

       Yeah, there's a ton of those, man. They're all over the world. They- there's a big one that's outside of Australia that they found, giant craters where it just... It totally makes sense. It totally makes sense. So this guy, along with this guy named Graham Hancock, who's also been on the podcast many times, a good friend of mine, he has a documentary called, uh, Ancient Catastrophe. Is that it? It's not... Apocalypse, right? Ancient Apocalypse. I always fuck those up. Ancient Apocalypse, that's on, uh, Netflix. It's amazing. And it's all talking about, like, these insane structures that people built in Africa, in Asia, all over the world, in Turkey, they... These insane structures that are... that predate modern civilization. These are like 5,000 years before we think Mesopotamia emerged. Huge stone columns, huge structures that they know for sure were 11,000 years old.

   20. ASAli Siddiq14:25

       Yeah.

   21. JRJoe Rogan14:25

       The show's amazing. It's an amazing show.

   22. ASAli Siddiq14:27

       I think I watched this.

   23. JRJoe Rogan14:29

       It's really good. And it's... You know, he only goes... He only touches the surface 'cause there's so many of these all over the world, and Egypt is the best example.

   24. ASAli Siddiq14:37

       He means... The best example of it.

   25. JRJoe Rogan14:38

       Egypt is a fantastic example because there's stuff that's under the sand that's even older than the massive stuff that's above the stand. And the stuff under the sand that they find when they dig deeper, i- it's a totally different style of building.

   26. ASAli Siddiq14:52

       This is what the X Clan used to rap about.

   27. JRJoe Rogan14:55

       Hmm. Yeah.

   28. ASAli Siddiq14:57

       Yeah. Them Poor Righteous Teachers, that whole (clears throat) Brand Nubian. This is the, you know, the pyramids and building of the stones and Egypt, the whole Egyptian culture, Timbuktu, the whole thing. So-

   29. JRJoe Rogan15:12

       Yeah.

   30. ASAli Siddiq15:12

       ... yeah. It's been around for a long time.
6. 18:12 – 26:30

   Apocalypse thinking: disasters, survival, and why trucks beat sports cars

   1. JRJoe Rogan18:12

      So that's the thing, like, if you were... if you lived on the Great Plains in the 1800s and you were a Native American, that was your whole life. That's all you knew. You knew how to hunt buffalo. You d- you know how to make tipis. You knew how to live off the land. That's h- all you knew.If you took some fucking person from the east side of Manhattan, some person that works some cushy office job-

   2. ASAli Siddiq18:32

      (laughs)

   3. JRJoe Rogan18:32

      ... and you said, "Jerome, this is your new life. You're gonna live on the plains and you're gonna make your own arrows, and you, you're, you're gonna go f- fucking run around and try to shoot 'em into buffalo. And there's no doctors."

   4. ASAli Siddiq18:44

      So is this what Naked and Afraid is about?

   5. JRJoe Rogan18:47

      (laughs)

   6. ASAli Siddiq18:48

      Is the... Are they... (laughs) Are they getting ready for the apocalypse?

   7. JRJoe Rogan18:52

      No.

   8. ASAli Siddiq18:52

      Like-

   9. JRJoe Rogan18:52

      They're just exploiting dummies. They're just having fun with people's dicks. (laughs)

   10. ASAli Siddiq18:57

       (laughs)

   11. JRJoe Rogan18:58

       And blurring, blurring them on the TV. It's crazy. That show's crazy. That show's crazy. It's so dumb.

   12. ASAli Siddiq19:03

       And then Naked and Afraid XL, they got like 13 people out. (laughs)

   13. JRJoe Rogan19:07

       (laughs)

   14. ASAli Siddiq19:07

       You gotta meet up and form a tribe, like... (laughs)

   15. JRJoe Rogan19:10

       Oh. Yeah, they could do something like that. People would go... They would go evil real quick. If there was competing tribes, people would go evil real quick.

   16. ASAli Siddiq19:18

       I think it's gonna... I- if it, if it jumps... No. Okay. Well, during, during Katrina, it was survival of the fittest.

   17. JRJoe Rogan19:29

       Yes.

   18. ASAli Siddiq19:30

       D- during this flood in, um, Houston, it was survival of the fittest.

   19. JRJoe Rogan19:34

       Yes.

   20. ASAli Siddiq19:35

       It's, it's been some times where-

   21. JRJoe Rogan19:37

       Yeah.

   22. ASAli Siddiq19:37

       ... people have shown they colors.

   23. JRJoe Rogan19:39

       Yes.

   24. ASAli Siddiq19:40

       You know, and-

   25. JRJoe Rogan19:40

       In small pockets. Yeah.

   26. ASAli Siddiq19:42

       Yeah. Like my, um, my friend, he used to brag about having this Maserati and when the flood happened, his Maserati was floating down the street. (laughs)

   27. JRJoe Rogan19:53

       (laughs)

   28. ASAli Siddiq19:53

       And I was in my truck. I'm like, "Hey, you want me to come pick you and your Maserati up? 'Cause yo- you, you in a bad position, my boy."

   29. JRJoe Rogan20:00

       (laughs)

   30. ASAli Siddiq20:00

       'Cause it... In Texas, you need a truck, you know? And it was survival. He, he couldn't move nowhere, so he needed help.
7. 26:30 – 30:14

   Slowing down, performer momentum, and building a life beyond the road

   1. ASAli Siddiq26:30

      Man, 'cause that's, that's the life that I'm going towards.

   2. JRJoe Rogan26:33

      I love it. Nature.

   3. ASAli Siddiq26:34

      Just being somewhere, being able to farm and grow my own vegetables and-

   4. JRJoe Rogan26:39

      Yes.

   5. ASAli Siddiq26:39

      ... go outside and have my own fields-

   6. JRJoe Rogan26:42

      Yeah, man.

   7. ASAli Siddiq26:42

      ... and goats and things of that nature.

   8. JRJoe Rogan26:45

      Yeah, that's very satisfying. There's something very satisfying, just even about the idea of that, that's very satisfying.

   9. ASAli Siddiq26:50

      Not having to be somew- I, I, I think that's the... I'm, I'ma slow down in 2025. I, I have a plan. Knock out, um, Domino Effect 3 and 4, um, and then kind of relax for a while. 'Cause m- I don't, I don't think people know this about comics. You probably experienced it. I'm... My body is on some type of clock where I have to be somewhere even when I don't, which is troublesome to me.

   10. JRJoe Rogan27:21

       Mm.

   11. ASAli Siddiq27:22

       Like I've, I've gotten up and packed all my things up and didn't realize that I was already where I'm supposed to be, 'cause I'm... My body is like, yo, you... My mind, basically, is, "You supposed to be somewhere." So, uh, it takes me... If I go on vacation, it has to be for like two weeks, because the first week, it's, it's crazy. Like I'm... My mind is set on this clock of-

   12. JRJoe Rogan27:48

       Yeah.

   13. ASAli Siddiq27:48

       ... you got a performance, you gotta be somewhere, you got this to do.

   14. JRJoe Rogan27:51

       Yeah.

   15. ASAli Siddiq27:51

       You got this. And I don't, I don't like that feeling.

   16. JRJoe Rogan27:53

       I got out of that. I got... Uh, that took... It took me a long time to get out of that, but I got out of that where I can enjoy a vacation. I can just chill. I got out of that where I can just sit in my backyard sometimes. Just sit down, have a, have a cocktail.

   17. ASAli Siddiq28:06

       Mm-hmm.

   18. JRJoe Rogan28:06

       Just relax.

   19. ASAli Siddiq28:07

       That's what I wanna do. Just be able to just sit and have nothing to do.

   20. JRJoe Rogan28:15

       Yeah.

   21. ASAli Siddiq28:15

       Yeah.

   22. JRJoe Rogan28:16

       I think there's a, there's real pleasure in that if you earn that. And you definitely have earned that. There's real pleasure in that. But people like you and people like me that are constantly on the road and constantly working on this and working on that, it's like you're, you're on this momentum. It's... And it's hard to hit the brakes. You're going downhill. Jesus fucking Christ. Like Flintstone breaks.

   23. ASAli Siddiq28:35

       (laughs)

   24. JRJoe Rogan28:35

       You know, it's hard.

   25. ASAli Siddiq28:36

       Yeah, it, it is.

   26. JRJoe Rogan28:37

       It's hard to slow down.

   27. ASAli Siddiq28:38

       And you gotta get to a place where you feel like... Or have a plan to get to a place where, okay, this is, this is it for a while.

   28. JRJoe Rogan28:46

       Yeah.

   29. ASAli Siddiq28:47

       And then detox for that month, 'cause it's good... A month of not doing shows is, is horrible.

   30. JRJoe Rogan28:56

       It's weird.
8. 30:14 – 42:43

   Boredom, depression, and the lost art of playing outside

   1. JRJoe Rogan30:14

      Well, that's why it always drives me crazy when people say they get bored. Like how are you bored?

   2. ASAli Siddiq30:19

      How can you get bored?

   3. JRJoe Rogan30:20

      There's so much to do. So, you just gotta find the thing.

   4. ASAli Siddiq30:24

      And if it's not... I- I- I- If you don't have anything to do, just go experience something.

   5. JRJoe Rogan30:29

      Yeah.... go check something out.

   6. ASAli Siddiq30:31

      I-

   7. JRJoe Rogan30:31

      Get moving.

   8. ASAli Siddiq30:32

      Anything.

   9. JRJoe Rogan30:32

      Don't stay home.

   10. ASAli Siddiq30:33

       Yeah.

   11. JRJoe Rogan30:33

       Don't just stay put. That's why you're bored.

   12. ASAli Siddiq30:36

       (laughs)

   13. JRJoe Rogan30:36

       There's nothing coming at you. Go somewhere.

   14. ASAli Siddiq30:38

       Stay put. I haven't heard that in a long-

   15. JRJoe Rogan30:40

       (laughs)

   16. ASAli Siddiq30:42

       (laughs) My grandmother-

   17. JRJoe Rogan30:43

       Stay put.

   18. ASAli Siddiq30:43

       ... back, she would say that, 'cause back then you couldn't go into, um, couldn't take children to liquor stores.

   19. JRJoe Rogan30:49

       Mm-hmm.

   20. ASAli Siddiq30:50

       And my grandmother would get out of the car, she'd leave us in the car, "Hey, hey. Stay put." Be right (laughs) My grandmother told me be right here when she get back or she gonna beat our ass. It's like, like what? Like how'd that even come into the conversation (laughs) goes to the conversation, but she, we was right there when she got back.

   21. JRJoe Rogan31:06

       Yeah.

   22. ASAli Siddiq31:07

       S- we stood put.

   23. JRJoe Rogan31:08

       Stay put. Yeah, staying around and being bored, I mean, that's of course that's what's gonna happen. People wonder why they're depressed. I mean, there's a lot of reasons why people are depressed, but some people are depressed just because they're not doing anything.

   24. ASAli Siddiq31:20

       Oh, man.

   25. JRJoe Rogan31:21

       You're just fucking f- filled with anxiety and, and you're just nothing, you're just like alone, just trying to f- think of something to do. Bored out of your fucking mind.

   26. ASAli Siddiq31:30

       Which is crazy. H- how you can't think of nothing to do when it's all outside? Like you can just, you can walk, I could walk out, it's 'cause I'm from that era when we used to play outside.

   27. JRJoe Rogan31:39

       Yeah.

   28. ASAli Siddiq31:39

       So if I go outside, I'm gonna find something to do. If I find another person, we're going to find something to do.

   29. JRJoe Rogan31:48

       Mm-hmm.

   30. ASAli Siddiq31:48

       If we find another person, oh, no, this is a football game. We, all we need is three people and a, and a ball, and we throwing this ball up in the air, it's a hot ball. The...
9. 42:43 – 47:13

   Eating culture: Texas food, Houston’s diversity, and road disappointments

   1. JRJoe Rogan42:43

      Do you know there's more people dying today because they eat too much than starving to death for the first time in history?

   2. ASAli Siddiq42:50

      Wow.

   3. JRJoe Rogan42:51

      Yeah.

   4. ASAli Siddiq42:52

      You know, Texas is a fat state.

   5. JRJoe Rogan42:54

      Good food. Terry Black's Barbecue. What's up?

   6. ASAli Siddiq43:00

      (laughs)

   7. JRJoe Rogan43:01

      (laughs) . (laughs) Food here is fantastic.

   8. ASAli Siddiq43:04

      You know people are dying from eating too much? "What's up? Terry Black's Barbecue." (laughs)

   9. JRJoe Rogan43:10

      (laughs)

   10. ASAli Siddiq43:10

       (laughs)

   11. JRJoe Rogan43:10

       I definitely eat too much when I'm there.

   12. ASAli Siddiq43:12

       Yeah, yeah.

   13. JRJoe Rogan43:14

       Yeah. (laughs) We, we recreationally eat.

   14. ASAli Siddiq43:16

       Yes. We, we, we do.

   15. JRJoe Rogan43:18

       Yeah.

   16. ASAli Siddiq43:18

       We, we, we go just, "Aw, man. This... Let me go see what this about."

   17. JRJoe Rogan43:21

       Yeah, yeah.

   18. ASAli Siddiq43:22

       Like, uh, th- in Texas, th- we are the kings and queens of, "Let me just go check something out." Look, look-

   19. JRJoe Rogan43:29

       Yeah.

   20. ASAli Siddiq43:29

       And going in there like, "Oh, man. They got a new donut place. Let's go see what they talking about." Like-

   21. JRJoe Rogan43:34

       Yeah

   22. ASAli Siddiq43:35

       (laughs) Like, why? 'Cause we, we have a... We have the currency. We have the...

   23. JRJoe Rogan43:41

       Got a nice surplus.

   24. ASAli Siddiq43:42

       Oh, man.

   25. JRJoe Rogan43:43

       Yeah.

   26. ASAli Siddiq43:44

       F- like, it, it's hard to go on the road once you... I- Texas is the, is my home. This is where I grew up. Houston's n- um, especially. We have great food. So then you go on the road to other places and then they, "Oh, I'm gonna take you to the best barbecue place. I'm gonna take you to the best..." Then so you like, and then you get there, you like...

   27. JRJoe Rogan44:05

       You're spoiled. (laughs)

   28. ASAli Siddiq44:06

       Damn.

   29. JRJoe Rogan44:07

       There's some places that have good barbecue. Apparently Kansas City has good barbecue.

   30. ASAli Siddiq44:10

       Oh, nah, not, not really.
10. 47:13 – 56:54

    Comedy ecosystems: Houston’s legacy, the Mothership, and the UFO theme

    1. JRJoe Rogan47:13

       ... was the best comedy scene in the world at one point in time, in the '80s.

    2. ASAli Siddiq47:17

       I still think that Houston is the greatest comedy scene. We put out a lot of great, a lot of great comics. We don't have the clubs anymore though. That's the thing.

    3. JRJoe Rogan47:25

       Yeah, that's the thing.

    4. ASAli Siddiq47:26

       Yeah, Improv is there. Secret Group is there. Um-

    5. JRJoe Rogan47:30

       They used to have The Laugh Stop.

    6. ASAli Siddiq47:31

       Yeah, they used to have The Laugh Stop.

    7. JRJoe Rogan47:32

       Laugh Stop in River Oaks.

    8. ASAli Siddiq47:33

       The Laugh Spot.

    9. JRJoe Rogan47:34

       Yeah.

    10. ASAli Siddiq47:35

        Um, yeah.

    11. JRJoe Rogan47:35

        The Laugh Spot went under too?

    12. ASAli Siddiq47:37

        Yeah, both. Do you remember-

    13. JRJoe Rogan47:39

        Oh.

    14. ASAli Siddiq47:39

        Do you remember Spellbinders?

    15. JRJoe Rogan47:41

        I heard about it. I never went there.

    16. ASAli Siddiq47:42

        Yeah, Spellbinders. We had Spellbinders and then, uh, Improv bought out where the Spellbinders is, so it's The Improv and the, um, Secret Group. And then, I think they got a new comedy club called Rise.

    17. JRJoe Rogan47:55

        Mm-hmm.

    18. ASAli Siddiq47:56

        Then Comedy Lounge on the north side.

    19. JRJoe Rogan47:59

        Yeah. Well, The Improv's a great club.

    20. ASAli Siddiq48:02

        Yeah.

    21. JRJoe Rogan48:02

        That's a great club. I did... That was the first club I did coming back. I did that in July. I did one weekend, and then I got real high and I got paranoid that I was gonna give people COVID, like my guests, 'cause I'm so selfish and I wanna do the road. Even though I was getting tested every day. I was like, "What if it, what if it slips? What if I get a, a false negative?" Um, so I stopped. But I had a great time there.

    22. ASAli Siddiq48:23

        Speaking of great clubs, I stopped in last night at the Mothership.

    23. JRJoe Rogan48:27

        That's pretty wild, right?

    24. ASAli Siddiq48:29

        It's pretty nice. That's a nice comedy club.

    25. JRJoe Rogan48:32

        Yeah.

    26. ASAli Siddiq48:33

        Very comic...... friendly. (laughs)

    27. JRJoe Rogan48:35

        Yeah. Well- (laughs)

    28. ASAli Siddiq48:37

        Yeah.

    29. JRJoe Rogan48:37

        ... comic built it. (laughs)

    30. ASAli Siddiq48:40

        Yeah. (laughs) Yeah.
11. 56:54 – 1:11:34

    Future tech anxiety: jet suits, self-driving cars, and automation replacing people

    1. JRJoe Rogan56:54

       What year was The Jetsons supposed to be?

    2. NANarrator56:56

       I just looked up. Uh, it's made in 1962 and it was 100 years-

    3. JRJoe Rogan56:59

       Let me guess.

    4. NANarrator57:00

       ... in the future.

    5. JRJoe Rogan57:01

       100 years in the future? Oh, okay.

    6. NANarrator57:03

       So 2062.

    7. JRJoe Rogan57:04

       Wow.

    8. NANarrator57:05

       And here's some of the stuff they had.

    9. JRJoe Rogan57:07

       They had flying cars. They'll never give us that.

    10. ASAli Siddiq57:09

        Hell yeah.

    11. JRJoe Rogan57:09

        They'll never give us that.

    12. ASAli Siddiq57:10

        Robotic dogs.

    13. JRJoe Rogan57:11

        Yeah.

    14. ASAli Siddiq57:12

        Uh, pe- people drunk flying. Hell nah.

    15. JRJoe Rogan57:14

        (clicks tongue) They had robotic vacuums, video calls, tablet computers, robotic house help. They had tablets?

    16. ASAli Siddiq57:21

        Yes.

    17. JRJoe Rogan57:22

        I don't remember that.

    18. ASAli Siddiq57:23

        They worked for Sprancely Sprockets.

    19. JRJoe Rogan57:25

        Flying cars, smartwatches, they had smartwatches. Drones, holograms, 3D-printed food. Oh, yeah, that's right.

    20. ASAli Siddiq57:35

        Yeah.

    21. JRJoe Rogan57:35

        They had a pill cam. When you swallow it, it sees your body. Oh, look at George.

    22. NANarrator57:40

        Yeah.

    23. JRJoe Rogan57:40

        He knows that's going up his ass.

    24. ASAli Siddiq57:42

        (laughs)

    25. JRJoe Rogan57:43

        Flat screen TVs.

    26. ASAli Siddiq57:44

        Jet pack, flat screen TV.

    27. JRJoe Rogan57:46

        Yeah.

    28. NANarrator57:46

        Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's all they have now.

    29. JRJoe Rogan57:47

        Jet packs. Yeah.

    30. NANarrator57:49

        There's a few other articles that do the same thing, but-
12. 1:11:34 – 1:16:16

    Schools, teachers, and redesigning systems before people become prisoners

    1. ASAli Siddiq1:11:34

       (sighs)

    2. JRJoe Rogan1:11:34

       The biggest, the biggest insanity is that it's not a cherished position to teach people. It's not a position where you have the most qualified, the best people possible, and they get paid really well, because they have an incredible job. They're educating the young children, and that education can literally form the path that you go on for the rest of your life. Your experiences that you have in schools with good teachers, they can shape and form you in a way that changes your whole life. They can expose you to ideas that you never heard before, and it changes the way you think about things and changes the path of your life.

    3. ASAli Siddiq1:12:08

       It can do all of that with things. Or i- Okay, let's go to this point first. New Zealand, New Zealand has the best school system. It has teachers who get paid, and they also have the best teachers, 'cause they have people who want to be teachers. I think that, if it's not a position in this, in this country where it's made attractive, where people can, one, survive and actually have the, where they, where they really want to be teachers. I think that sometimes we have a lot of people... Like I grew up when... If- if the kids of the day, of today had my teachers...... I think everything will be cool. Because they ha- I had teachers that inspired thought and creativity and, and want- and they wanted to be teachers.

    4. JRJoe Rogan1:13:05

       Hmm.

    5. ASAli Siddiq1:13:05

       Like, th- that's the biggest thing. When you have people who want to do their job.

    6. JRJoe Rogan1:13:11

       Right.

    7. ASAli Siddiq1:13:11

       Or do there... Uh, uh, or it's more like a passion to them. Like every teacher I've ever known that was great would u- usually tell me that this is a love of... This is a labor of love. Like, "I love teaching. I'm a, I'm a teacher. This is what I was designed to do. I'm not waiting to do anything else." And if you have teachers that'll walk out for more money, you should also walk out for a better curriculum as well, if your desire is to teach children and to inspire the youth to be... Uh, a- and I, and I credit teachers for everything that I, that I am. You know? My mom's a teacher. So it's like, I'm... My friends are teachers. My sister's in Thailand right now teaching English. It's like, I come from that and I always loved... My science teacher was my coach too. He wasn't just the coach. He was the math... One year it was the math teacher. One year it was the history teacher. You know? It was people who desired and wanted to, to nourish children. And the pay, it definitely has to be increased but you have to increase the things of... The quality of what you paying for.

    8. JRJoe Rogan1:14:26

       But don't you think that that's how you do it? If you wanna get better teachers with a better curriculum, don't you think it, you would incentivize them with more money so you would get more motivated people?

    9. ASAli Siddiq1:14:37

       No, I think you do both at the same time, that you change the criteria... You change the pay and you cr- and you change the criteria of what it is to be a teacher-

    10. JRJoe Rogan1:14:45

        Yeah. Agreed. Yeah.

    11. ASAli Siddiq1:14:46

        ... at the same time.

    12. JRJoe Rogan1:14:47

        Yeah, I agree.

    13. ASAli Siddiq1:14:47

        And, and then you, you put these kids in a, in a, in a system to where it's... Everything is nurturing, even down to the food. You take all these cafeteria workers out and you put chefs back there. You put some people and you teach them and, and, and give them time to digest... Just change the whole system. They, they should have an hour to eat.

    14. JRJoe Rogan1:15:09

        Yeah.

    15. ASAli Siddiq1:15:09

        And they should get a four-course meal and they should be taught things while they eating. They should be in a, a very clean environment that you have... Man, I used to love that the custodian, when I was growing up, he always wanted to... He took pride in keeping the school clean. It wasn't a job that look, was looked down upon because he did everything. He was the maintenance man and the, and the custodian. And he used to be like, "Hey, man, I got this bathroom, um, clean here. Now y'all gonna stop pissing all over the damn..." (laughs) That's how he used to talk to us. We were in the fourth grade. "Hey, stop pissing all over the damn thing." And like, I'm like, "Yes, sir." You know? And he taught you hygiene in the bathroom.

    16. JRJoe Rogan1:15:49

        Mm-hmm.

    17. ASAli Siddiq1:15:49

        Like you... I think that you should change... Like I see all these, these things where they changing how they house prisoners. I get that. But change how you teach children so where you don't have to house prisoners.

    18. JRJoe Rogan1:16:06

        Yes.

    19. ASAli Siddiq1:16:07

        That's-

    20. JRJoe Rogan1:16:08

        Yes.

    21. ASAli Siddiq1:16:08

        ... the goal. You, you doing the shit backwards.

Episode duration: 3:18:22