Joe Rogan Experience #2000 - Duncan Trussell

1. 0:00 – 15:00

   (drum roll) Joe Rogan podcast,…

   1. NANarrator0:00

      (drum roll) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out. The Joe Rogan Experience.

   2. JRJoe Rogan0:06

      Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. (energetic music plays) Hi, Meow-Meow.

   3. DTDuncan Trussell0:13

      Hi, Ruff-Nuff.

   4. JRJoe Rogan0:16

      Um, I'm so excited to be here with you today.

   5. DTDuncan Trussell0:19

      Yeah.

   6. JRJoe Rogan0:20

      This is our first podcast coming out as our true selves.

   7. DTDuncan Trussell0:23

      We're furries!

   8. JRJoe Rogan0:24

      Yeah, we've been holding it in forever.

   9. DTDuncan Trussell0:26

      This is my true identity, uh, and you know what? It just eats me alive to not tell how we met at a furry con.

   10. JRJoe Rogan0:35

       (laughs)

   11. DTDuncan Trussell0:36

       (laughs)

   12. JRJoe Rogan0:38

       Well, we didn't know that we met there. Remember?

   13. DTDuncan Trussell0:41

       Well, yeah. I didn't know who you were for a long time.

   14. JRJoe Rogan0:43

       Yeah, we didn't know. I'm like, "Oh my God, you're Meow-Meow?"

   15. DTDuncan Trussell0:46

       Dude, it blew my mind. I mean, to me, that is proof we're in a simulation.

   16. JRJoe Rogan0:52

       Hmm.

   17. DTDuncan Trussell0:52

       'Cause what are the odds?

   18. JRJoe Rogan0:54

       They're not good.

   19. DTDuncan Trussell0:56

       What are the odds, man, that I would be-

   20. JRJoe Rogan0:58

       The odds are also not good that I'm gonna keep this fucking helmet on.

   21. DTDuncan Trussell1:01

       (laughs)

   22. JRJoe Rogan1:01

       Oh my God, I'm sweating.

   23. DTDuncan Trussell1:02

       This is, like, not good for me. I'm not keeping this on, dude. It's a fuck-

   24. JRJoe Rogan1:05

       I can barely breathe!

   25. DTDuncan Trussell1:06

       How do they do it?

   26. JRJoe Rogan1:07

       I don't know. They fuck with these things on.

   27. DTDuncan Trussell1:09

       How do you fuck with this on? I mean-

   28. JRJoe Rogan1:11

       They're heroes.

   29. DTDuncan Trussell1:13

       N- Total respect.

   30. JRJoe Rogan1:14

       Those people are heroes.
2. 15:00 – 30:00

   I can't get this…

   1. DTDuncan Trussell15:01

      Look at that.

   2. JRJoe Rogan15:02

      I can't get this fucking thing off of here.

   3. NANarrator15:03

      Yeah, it happened to me in the five seconds I had it on, too. It's a bunch of little hairs.

   4. DTDuncan Trussell15:07

      Holy shit, man.

   5. NANarrator15:09

      You want a napkin or something?

   6. JRJoe Rogan15:11

      No, I'm all right.

   7. NANarrator15:11

      Okay.

   8. DTDuncan Trussell15:11

      How many bags of that do you think get consumed at, like, an average Coachella?

   9. JRJoe Rogan15:16

      How many bags of th- uh, did Joey Diaz do during his prime?

   10. DTDuncan Trussell15:19

       (laughs)

   11. JRJoe Rogan15:19

       That's what I wanna know. What did Joe... (laughs) That might be, like, Joey Diaz's cocaine career right there.

   12. DTDuncan Trussell15:29

       (laughs)

   13. JRJoe Rogan15:30

       (laughs)

   14. DTDuncan Trussell15:30

       Oh, man. That'd be so cool, if there was a way to look at all the drugs you've done. Like, if you could, like, you know, have them laid out in front of you over the course of a lifetime. That would be-

   15. JRJoe Rogan15:39

       Oh, my God. You'd be terrified. It would be a room.

   16. DTDuncan Trussell15:41

       It would be exciting.

   17. JRJoe Rogan15:42

       The amount of weed?

   18. DTDuncan Trussell15:44

       Oh, dude.

   19. JRJoe Rogan15:44

       The volume, just the sheer volume.

   20. DTDuncan Trussell15:46

       Booze.

   21. JRJoe Rogan15:47

       Uh.

   22. DTDuncan Trussell15:48

       Just think it. All of it.

   23. JRJoe Rogan15:49

       Right.

   24. DTDuncan Trussell15:49

       Just all... Just fucking piles of ketamine. Wow.

   25. JRJoe Rogan15:54

       And if you could do a chart to the size of your room versus the bad decisions you've made in your life, I bet you would find some correlations.

   26. DTDuncan Trussell16:01

       Yes. That's for sure.

   27. JRJoe Rogan16:03

       100%.

   28. DTDuncan Trussell16:04

       Absolutely, man. Yeah. You do, you do have to... I mean, there's just no way around it. This is why I think karma is a wonderful and perfect way to articulate this. It's just, like, where you're at, everything around you, that's your karma.

   29. JRJoe Rogan16:19

       Hmm.

   30. DTDuncan Trussell16:19

       Like, that's you. This is your karma. And then I love that, 'cause it keeps me from, like, going, "Victim." You know? When I loo-... You look around at everything, and you're like, "Whatever it is. Good? You did that for yourself. Bad? You did that to yourself, and you just have to deal with it."
3. 30:00 – 45:00

   Jesus. …

   1. NANarrator30:00

      mystery that has confounded scientists from every discipline that has researched them. Scientists from archeology, architecture, engineering, and geology around the world have no understanding who or why the Longyou Caves were carved into the earth. Currently, 24 hand-carved caves encompassing a staggering 30,000 square meters have been found so far.

   2. DTDuncan Trussell30:18

      Jesus.

   3. NANarrator30:19

      Each grotto is carved into solid siltstone and descends roughly 30 meters down with stone rooms, bridges, gutters, and ponds. The Longyou Caves are supported by pillars that are evenly dispersed throughout the caves, and the walls, ceiling, and stone columns are uniformly decorated with chisel marks in a pattern of parallel lines and ornate designs.Despite their magnitude and the work required to build them, no indication of their construction or even their existence has been discovered in archival sources. Despite the fact that the whole excavation involved about a million cubic meters of stone, there is no archeological evidence explaining where that amount of stone went, nor is there evidence of the work being done.

   4. DTDuncan Trussell30:54

      Damn.

   5. NANarrator30:55

      Furthermore, there isn't a single historical source that mentions them, which is extremely remarkable given the scope of the undertaking. Despite decades of analysis, the Longyou Cave's mystery remains essentially unsolved.

   6. JRJoe Rogan31:07

      What the fuck, dude?

   7. DTDuncan Trussell31:09

      You know, when people, like, bash Hancock or try to dismiss it or debunk it, it's so frustrating to me, because the, the... Like, first of all, no... Like, nobody builds something that big underground just for fun. Like, you know what I mean? There's a... The i-... Like, I think we burrowed in. We had to.

   8. JRJoe Rogan31:38

      Yeah.

   9. DTDuncan Trussell31:38

      Like, whatever happened, or maybe something happened, and then we were so scared it would happen again, we created... That's like an ancient survival shelter.

   10. JRJoe Rogan31:48

       Well, they have them in Turkey as well. There's these giant under... Is that where it was? Where, uh, Randall told us about?

   11. DTDuncan Trussell31:54

       Dude, those are crazy. Those are-

   12. JRJoe Rogan31:56

       Yeah.

   13. DTDuncan Trussell31:56

       ... crazy, with, like, air ducts-

   14. JRJoe Rogan31:58

       Yeah, yeah.

   15. DTDuncan Trussell31:59

       ... and just insane. And it's like, you don't do that unless you have to.

   16. JRJoe Rogan32:03

       Right.

   17. DTDuncan Trussell32:03

       You don't burrow like a human ant high, ant nest.

   18. JRJoe Rogan32:07

       Yeah, these things. Like, the amount of resources it took to do what these people did. These were huge chambers carved into stone.

   19. DTDuncan Trussell32:18

       I- in the tree-

   20. JRJoe Rogan32:18

       They think that the sky was, like, fucking raining lightning at one point.

   21. DTDuncan Trussell32:23

       Yeah. Pole shift. I mean, to me, the really eerie thing about all of this is the information gap. It's that we have this massive...

   22. JRJoe Rogan32:36

       Look at that.

   23. DTDuncan Trussell32:36

       Like, the hard drive has been, like, fragmented-

   24. JRJoe Rogan32:40

       Mm-hmm.

   25. DTDuncan Trussell32:40

       ... from... What i-... Like, we just don't know. It's-

   26. JRJoe Rogan32:43

       But thank God they made everything outta stone. The thing about it is, whatever their technology was that existed to make the pyramids, it was different. We make everything outta metal and glass, and that shit's not gonna be here in 10,000 years. It's just not gonna be here. It'll all get-

   27. DTDuncan Trussell33:01

       Right.

   28. JRJoe Rogan33:01

       ... destroyed by just mother nature. It'll just eventually get... Like, I think they've done, like, analysis of, like, how much of a city will be around after 500 years of just-

   29. DTDuncan Trussell33:12

       How much?

   30. JRJoe Rogan33:12

       ... vacancy. And after 1,000 year-... Well, Detroit is l-... a great example. Have you seen what happens in Detroit?
4. 45:00 – 1:00:00

   Oh, maybe I never…

   1. DTDuncan Trussell45:00

      It's completely different from the movie, like, 100% different. It's-

   2. JRJoe Rogan45:05

      Oh, maybe I never read it.

   3. DTDuncan Trussell45:06

      Ken Kesey, he would, he was like-

   4. JRJoe Rogan45:08

      Ken Kesey wrote it?

   5. DTDuncan Trussell45:09

      Yeah.

   6. JRJoe Rogan45:10

      Oh, no way.

   7. DTDuncan Trussell45:11

      So, it's so psychedelic. The book is so psychedelic, but, you know, like, the, the idea is that the charac- the character of McMurphy, Jack Nicholson's character, w- and again, this is my own analysis. I don't know what the actual, like, literary analysis of it is. He represents an undomesticated human, and the people in the ward are humans that couldn't function in what he says, he calls society the Combine. They couldn't function in the Combine, so they're being brought into the asylums to get, like, re-domesticated just so they can function (laughs) in the Combine. And he represents, like, an undomesticated human who enters into, like, a conditioning center designed to melt people back down, build them back up, and send them out into the world and be good, functioning, domesticated humans. It's so good. It's so subversive, dude. It's such a brilliant, like... I, it, it's so funny how different the movie is from it. Like, it-

   8. JRJoe Rogan46:12

      Wow.

   9. DTDuncan Trussell46:12

      ... like Nurse Ratched, and again, because the, uh, narrator is Chief, that Native Am- the big Native American dude who was in the movie-

   10. JRJoe Rogan46:19

       Mm-hmm.

   11. DTDuncan Trussell46:20

       ... that's the narrator of the book. It's being told from his perspective.

   12. JRJoe Rogan46:23

       Oh.

   13. DTDuncan Trussell46:25

       So you don't know, like, how much of what he's reporting is real and how much is, like, he's in a m- mental asylum, right? (laughs)

   14. JRJoe Rogan46:31

       Oh, my God. That's amazing.

   15. DTDuncan Trussell46:33

       I know. It's so good. But according to him, Nurse Ratched can control time. She-

   16. JRJoe Rogan46:39

       Oh. (laughs)

   17. DTDuncan Trussell46:41

       (laughs) -

   18. JRJoe Rogan46:41

       Oh.

   19. DTDuncan Trussell46:41

       She'll speed up time so that, like, a year goes by in a day, or slow down time so that, like, like, uh, uh, a second lasts, like, 10 years. And that's how, that's just one of the many ways that they're, she's basically torturing the people in the ward.

   20. JRJoe Rogan46:57

       Oh, my God.

   21. DTDuncan Trussell46:58

       Just constantly giving them drugs, tying them to their beds, and, and always this threat. This, like, threat is hovering, which is, "If you fuck up too much, if you get too angry at Nurse Ratched, who is a monster..." Essentially, the way he describes it is it's the Demiurge, it's just the Antichrist. Then you know what happens? They're gonna fucking give you a lobotomy.

   22. JRJoe Rogan47:20

       (gasps)

   23. DTDuncan Trussell47:20

       They're gonna cut out your brain, turn you into a zombie.

   24. JRJoe Rogan47:23

       Oh, my God.

   25. DTDuncan Trussell47:24

       (laughs)

   26. JRJoe Rogan47:24

       And, you know, they really did that.

   27. DTDuncan Trussell47:25

       Yeah.

   28. JRJoe Rogan47:26

       They really did that.

   29. DTDuncan Trussell47:27

       They really did that.

   30. JRJoe Rogan47:28

       They really did that.
5. 1:00:00 – 1:15:00

   Yeah. …

   1. DTDuncan Trussell1:00:00

      But like, to then like celebrate that you had to like kill a lunatic or something-

   2. JRJoe Rogan1:00:06

      Yeah.

   3. DTDuncan Trussell1:00:06

      ... is so dark. Like, why not collect their scalps, Lindsey Graham? If you're so into this shit, why don't we start scalping the fucking Russians? We'll just, uh, cut pieces of... Start wearing a, a, a net- a necklace of Russian fingers, you know? If you're so into murdering people. And also ignoring the demographics of the people who are getting fucking slaughtered. I mean, you can see videos of them being dragged out of their houses and taken to the middle of Ukraine to just get thrown into a fucking blender, dude. And that's what he's tap dancing about. He's... It's crazy.

   4. JRJoe Rogan1:00:48

      It's crazy. It's crazy, and th- that way of talking that he just did is like, uh, it- it's a standard politician's way of addressing a very complex issue.... they-

   5. DTDuncan Trussell1:01:01

      Right.

   6. JRJoe Rogan1:01:01

      ... do it with, like ... There was a, a r- there was a rah-rah aspect to that.

   7. DTDuncan Trussell1:01:05

      Yeah.

   8. JRJoe Rogan1:01:05

      "We're gonna unleash holy hell on them Russians."

   9. DTDuncan Trussell1:01:08

      Pep rally.

   10. JRJoe Rogan1:01:09

       Pep rally.

   11. DTDuncan Trussell1:01:09

       Pep rally for murdering people, dude.

   12. JRJoe Rogan1:01:11

       Yeah. It ... 'Cause it r- ... That is a football thing. Like, saying it like that, that's like, "We're gonna go fucking kick their ass as a team."

   13. DTDuncan Trussell1:01:17

       A- right. And ... But for sure, there is no financial motivation in what Lindsey Graham is doing. (laughs)

   14. JRJoe Rogan1:01:23

       (laughs)

   15. DTDuncan Trussell1:01:24

       No one would do that. No, no! Look-

   16. JRJoe Rogan1:01:25

       All that money is just, uh, a coincidence.

   17. DTDuncan Trussell1:01:28

       Oh, yeah. Yeah. It's so fucking dark, man. Like, you ... I- ... I- ... It's really so confusing to me. I ... 'Cause I guess I'm a naive idiot. That people like that even exist. That-

   18. JRJoe Rogan1:01:39

       Well, also, the, they exist on the left now. That's what's weird.

   19. DTDuncan Trussell1:01:44

       Yeah. The, the ... Oh, you mean, like ... 'Cause the, the, the ... Yeah. Right. Because the, the general, like, uh, uh ... Like-

   20. JRJoe Rogan1:01:50

       Lindsey Graham, is he a Democrat or Republican?

   21. DTDuncan Trussell1:01:52

       Republican.

   22. JRJoe Rogan1:01:53

       He's a Republican.

   23. DTDuncan Trussell1:01:54

       Right? He's a Republican. He's a-

   24. JRJoe Rogan1:01:56

       So they're all united on this idea ... Of course he's a Republican. But they're all united on this idea that they should c- continue. There's no one, whe- whether it's a Republican or a Democrat. Like, the Democrats were always anti-war. Always.

   25. DTDuncan Trussell1:02:11

       Oh, yeah.

   26. JRJoe Rogan1:02:11

       Always.

   27. DTDuncan Trussell1:02:12

       Oh, yeah.

   28. JRJoe Rogan1:02:12

       W- this is the first time where the Democrats are, like, wholesale buying the narrative, and we have to stop Putin. We have to support Ukraine. I mean, how many Democrat peaceful people that used to have syringes in their Twitter bio now have a Ukraine flag?

   29. DTDuncan Trussell1:02:30

       Right. Yeah. The, the ... If you articulate just the general common sense reality that war ... We don't want war.

   30. JRJoe Rogan1:02:43

       We don't want war.
6. 1:15:00 – 1:18:47

   Yeah. …

   1. DTDuncan Trussell1:15:00

      like, everything.

   2. JRJoe Rogan1:15:01

      Yeah.

   3. DTDuncan Trussell1:15:01

      You know? Obvi- ... I mean, I don't ... Obviously, like, I'm not letting my kid watch Blade Runner or some shit like that. But just that if you get too overprotective with your kids, like try to hide death from them, for example.

   4. JRJoe Rogan1:15:12

      Yeah.

   5. DTDuncan Trussell1:15:12

      That sort of thing. Like, you gotta trust we can deal with it, that it's, it's safe for us to encounter all forms of information.

   6. JRJoe Rogan1:15:20

      Well, the problem is-

   7. DTDuncan Trussell1:15:22

      What?

   8. JRJoe Rogan1:15:22

      ... by the time they're real little, you're lying to them.

   9. DTDuncan Trussell1:15:24

      Santa Claus is gonna come to bring you all the toys.

   10. JRJoe Rogan1:15:27

       Who's Santa Claus?

   11. DTDuncan Trussell1:15:27

       He's gonna come down the chimney and he's gonna magically appear.

   12. JRJoe Rogan1:15:31

       Yeah.

   13. DTDuncan Trussell1:15:32

       Yeah. Yeah. Just teach your kid what the word egregore means and you can do Santa Claus ethically.

   14. JRJoe Rogan1:15:37

       What's egregore?

   15. DTDuncan Trussell1:15:39

       Egregore is, like, the name for, like, a thing that exists within the minds of a lot of people. It's an egregore. So, like, if enough people believe in something, does it have a material reality? Not necessarily. But within the psychic mind space, it's real, it's there.

   16. JRJoe Rogan1:15:55

       Right. Like, Santa Claus is a thing.

   17. DTDuncan Trussell1:15:57

       Yeah, an egregore. Santa Claus is an egregore. There's no ... Obviously there's no real Santa Claus, but there is a very vivid living entity within the interconnected minds of everyone who believes in it. That's an egregore.

   18. JRJoe Rogan1:16:10

       The problem is, if you tell your kid that Santa's an egregore, and then your kid's gonna tell all the kids at school, and then you're the asshole. That's the problem.

   19. DTDuncan Trussell1:16:18

       I'll be honest, Joe, I have not told my kid Santa's an egregore.

   20. JRJoe Rogan1:16:21

       (laughs)

   21. DTDuncan Trussell1:16:21

       I just thought of it.

   22. JRJoe Rogan1:16:22

       (laughs)

   23. DTDuncan Trussell1:16:22

       I'm like, "Maybe I'll do egregore this Christmas." But, yeah, you're right.

   24. JRJoe Rogan1:16:25

       But there's, like, a battle, like, y- y- you get kids together, y- you know, and, and you-

   25. DTDuncan Trussell1:16:31

       Right.

   26. JRJoe Rogan1:16:31

       ... and you talk to parents. Like, "Hey, have you done the Santa Claus talk?" "No." "Like, how old are they?" "They're five. Five and six." Like, if ... You get to that age where you're like, "Okay, when are you gonna tell these kids?"

   27. DTDuncan Trussell1:16:41

       When do you tell?

   28. JRJoe Rogan1:16:42

       When do you tell them? They don't like it when you tell them, you know, they get very sad.

   29. DTDuncan Trussell1:16:45

       So is that, like ... Is that what these people think about-

   30. JRJoe Rogan1:16:48

       But it's like they-

Episode duration: 3:37:58