Joe Rogan Experience #2004 - Ice Cube

1. 0:00 – 1:57

   Snoop, weed culture, and celebrity exemption stories

   1. JRJoe Rogan0:00

      (drum roll) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out.

   2. ICIce Cube0:04

      The Joe Rogan Experience. Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night. All day. (energetic music) (laughs)

   3. JRJoe Rogan0:13

      (laughs) Oh, no.

   4. ICIce Cube0:14

      Like, man, that's what you was doing. You just wanted to go smoke weed with-

   5. JRJoe Rogan0:18

      (coughs)

   6. ICIce Cube0:18

      ... Joe and shit, yah. Coulda did that.

   7. JRJoe Rogan0:19

      I couldn't keep up with Snoop.

   8. ICIce Cube0:20

      Oh, hell.

   9. JRJoe Rogan0:21

      Snoop just keeps going. (coughs)

   10. ICIce Cube0:22

       Man, Snoop, he got a fucking professional bud roller. I think he paying 40 grand a year or some shit.

   11. JRJoe Rogan0:31

       Really?

   12. ICIce Cube0:31

       (laughs) Now, I don't know how much, but-

   13. JRJoe Rogan0:33

       (coughs)

   14. ICIce Cube0:33

       ... I know it's a dude who, eight hours a day he just bringing, (laughs) he bringing Snoop like a hundred blunts in a bag. "Here you go, Snoop."

   15. JRJoe Rogan0:46

       He's the one dude that's exempt anywhere he goes. No one's gonna fuck with Snoop with weed.

   16. ICIce Cube0:51

       He smoked weed at the White House, so-

   17. JRJoe Rogan0:53

       (laughs)

   18. ICIce Cube0:53

       ... I mean, damn, you know?

   19. JRJoe Rogan0:53

       Did he really? (laughs)

   20. ICIce Cube0:54

       Yeah, he said... (laughs) He went in the bathroom and got down. I said, "Oh, man." You know, I said, yeah, you know, he, he blaze anywhere, you know, church, swimming pools. He inside the pool blazing-

   21. JRJoe Rogan1:06

       Okay.

   22. ICIce Cube1:06

       ... under water.

   23. JRJoe Rogan1:07

       He's got a card. You can just let him slide.

   24. ICIce Cube1:09

       Yeah. Yeah. He's Snoop, you know, what you gonna say?

   25. JRJoe Rogan1:14

       What are you gonna say?

   26. ICIce Cube1:15

       What you gonna say, man? Everybody loves Snoop.

   27. JRJoe Rogan1:17

       The same thing with Chappelle. When we go to, out with Dave, Dave would just fire up in a restaurant. (laughs)

   28. ICIce Cube1:21

       Hey man, you know. (laughs)

   29. JRJoe Rogan1:24

       (laughs) Nobody says anything.

   30. ICIce Cube1:24

       Gotta let 'em know you in the house.
2. 1:57 – 4:21

   Why Ice Cube is doing a podcast tour: pushing the Big3 league

   1. JRJoe Rogan1:57

      So I saw this video where you're, you said you're doing just a, a podcast tour. You're just gonna-

   2. ICIce Cube2:01

      Yeah. I'ma hit everybody, you know. Everybody that wanna talk to me, you know what I'm saying? I just wanna be able to, um, get the message out to the people, talk to the people, you know. Um, I've been trying to push, push my league, and mainstream sports media have really, you know, basically ignored what we doing for the last six years.

   3. JRJoe Rogan2:24

      Why do you think that is?

   4. ICIce Cube2:27

      I think they're nervous about the NBA. They're nervous about their relationship with the NBA could be damaged if they promote the big three.

   5. JRJoe Rogan2:39

      I would think it would help everybody.

   6. ICIce Cube2:42

      Yeah, I mean, it's basketball in the summer. You know, they got the WNBA, but we really don't play at the same time, you know. They got their games. We got our games. Um, uh, and, you know, what's, what's crazy is we got their, you know, former Hall of Famers as a part of this league. Um, and they wanted to be a part of this league. So, it's not like we hijacking them or we-

   7. JRJoe Rogan3:14

      Yeah.

   8. ICIce Cube3:14

      ... you know, kidnapping them. They, they wanna be a part of this league. They wanted to be successful, and they wanna make money in the summer. So, I don't know what, what the NBA is thinking about trying to deprive Dr. J and Rick Barry and Iceman, George Gervin a little check in the summer. What, like, what's the problem?

   9. JRJoe Rogan3:35

      Yeah, it doesn't seem like it would compete at all. It seems like it would enhance. It would make... Uh, it's, uh, when you have more basketball for basketball... I mean, basketball fans, they have a season and the s- when it's over, it's over.

   10. ICIce Cube3:47

       Yeah.

   11. JRJoe Rogan3:47

       The fact that there's more basketball seems to me... But I'm a person that's like, I feel like there's enough pie for everybody with everything. I feel like that with fighting, with MMA. When there's a new organization comes out, I'm like-

   12. ICIce Cube3:58

       Yeah.

   13. JRJoe Rogan3:59

       ... good, good. Give people more opportunity to make money.

   14. ICIce Cube4:01

       W- without a doubt, you know, and it's, it's about who do it the best. And we're not trying to compete in any way, shape, or form with the NBA. Um, we're very complementary. So I don't understand why they would, you know, do some of the things that's being done behind the scenes, um, that-

3. 4:21 – 7:21

   NBA ‘suits’ vs. Big3: behind-the-scenes pressure and market control

   1. JRJoe Rogan4:21

      Oh, they're like encouraging people to not do it?

   2. ICIce Cube4:24

      Encouraging people to not sponsor us. I mean, like-

   3. JRJoe Rogan4:27

      Really?

   4. ICIce Cube4:28

      Yeah. I mean, encouraging networks not to play us.

   5. JRJoe Rogan4:32

      Really?

   6. ICIce Cube4:33

      Yeah. Um, those things, um, we've been able to survive, but you know, at a certain point, it's just redundant and ridiculous and we gotta fight back some ways, shape or form.

   7. JRJoe Rogan4:49

      It just, in my mind, it seems silly. It seems like it would only enhance. But that's what happens when you get big corporations, man.

   8. ICIce Cube4:56

      Yeah. And you know what, Joe, it's not the players. It's not the owners. It's not, um, GMs or scouts 'cause they, you know, name a big owner, he probably loves the league and we've heard from a lot of them that they love the league, they would love to invest, um. And the players love the league. They come to the games. They play in the league when they're done with, (laughs) with the NBA. Um, GMs, um, scouts come sit next to me on the front row and be like, "Oh man," you know. And they even pull some of our guys, put them in the G League or couple of our guys made it all the way back to the NBA, you know, f- 10-day contracts, things like that. So, it's not the culture of the NBA, it's just the suits, it's the corporate people.

   9. JRJoe Rogan5:49

      Mm-hmm.

   10. ICIce Cube5:49

       You know what I mean? It's the brass, it's the, it's the top guys that are scared of what we got.

   11. JRJoe Rogan5:55

       Just scared of competition in general always.

   12. ICIce Cube5:58

       Well, they think they own basketball.They, they think, like, we own basketball.

   13. JRJoe Rogan6:05

       Isn't that crazy?

   14. ICIce Cube6:06

       But, but it's, it's, it's, it's nuts.

   15. JRJoe Rogan6:08

       (laughs)

   16. ICIce Cube6:09

       It's fucking nuts because I don't, I don't hear kids running out saying, "Mom, I'm about to go play NBA."

   17. JRJoe Rogan6:15

       Right.

   18. ICIce Cube6:16

       No. (laughs) They say, "Mom, I'm about to go play basketball with my friends."

   19. JRJoe Rogan6:20

       Yeah.

   20. ICIce Cube6:20

       So basketball doesn't have a owner. And they are, I think, intimidated that we have changed the game, you know. And we haven't changed it just to change it. We've changed it for the better, and we've changed it within our own version of the sport. So we're not trying to change five on five. We're just trying to introduce three on three and elevate it to the professional level, which we have.

   21. JRJoe Rogan6:51

       I only think that would be a good thing. Those suits are silly.

   22. ICIce Cube6:54

       It is a good thing, man. They are silly.

   23. JRJoe Rogan6:56

       Only a good thing.

   24. ICIce Cube6:56

       That's why I'm here, man. You know, it's like, it's time for these, you know, suits to get out the way. And, you know, let the relationship flourish if it's gonna flourish. And even if it don't, look, we're doing fine. On our sixth season, our ratings are growing. You know, we did, you know, 500,000 people on CBS this Sunday.

   25. JRJoe Rogan7:20

       That's awesome.

   26. ICIce Cube7:21

       It's crazy as hell.

4. 7:21 – 9:59

   How Big3 started: Kobe’s final game and the ‘still got it’ idea

   1. JRJoe Rogan7:21

      Where'd this idea come from?

   2. ICIce Cube7:23

      Um, me and my guy, Jeff, you know, we, we've been working together for over 25 years. Like, everything in the last 25 years, we, we kind of been, you know, cooking it up. So, you know, we see Kobe, um, score 60 points in his last game. Now, this idea had been brewing in me, but it was like, you know, um, it's sports. I'm, I'm a, I'm a entertainment guy. You know, I'm in rap. I'm into, you know, music and movies and television and that. So, um, it had just been sitting there and this dude hits 60 points in his last game, and then there's nowhere else you can see him play. Um, he's done. Bye. Wave, go in the tunnel. And we're like, "That sucks." It sucks that we cannot ever see Kobe Bryant play in a professional basketball game again. There's gotta be other guys that people wanna see that, um, still got it. They make, they may not be able to play 82 games. You know what I mean? They may not be able to play back-to-backs and three games in four nights, but half-court three on three to 50, they gonna look like all-stars.

   3. JRJoe Rogan8:45

      Mm.

   4. ICIce Cube8:45

      And so, that's where the idea started to germinate and grow.

   5. JRJoe Rogan8:50

      That makes sense too that it's just the breakdown as you get older, you just can't do as many games. That makes sense.

   6. ICIce Cube8:56

      Yeah. I mean, they still can play. Like, if, if you put them out there one game, give it all you got against the 20-year-olds, they'lls- they'll, they'll do great. But if you have them play the next day, you know, they just can't recover as fast as the 20-year-olds.

   7. JRJoe Rogan9:17

      Yeah.

   8. ICIce Cube9:17

      So they look like they can't play, you know, the next day.

   9. JRJoe Rogan9:21

      Mm-hmm.

   10. ICIce Cube9:21

       So by having a week off, you get to recover. It's like football. You know, you get, get a chance to let your body recover, heal. So by the time that next weekend come around, you're 100% ready, good to go. Let's do it.

   11. JRJoe Rogan9:37

       Especially with the way guys train today, where older guys c- can train today and, you know, with the science of sports nutrition and-

   12. ICIce Cube9:44

       Yes.

   13. JRJoe Rogan9:45

       ... science of recovery. (instrumental music plays) They're just so much bet- no worries. They're so much better at it now.

   14. ICIce Cube9:49

       May never have been before.

   15. JRJoe Rogan9:51

       Maybe I'm getting called from the NBA. (laughs) We changed our mind. We got rid of the suits.

   16. ICIce Cube9:54

       We heard you was on Joe.

   17. JRJoe Rogan9:56

       (laughs)

   18. ICIce Cube9:56

       (laughs)

   19. JRJoe Rogan9:57

       What can we do? (laughs)

   20. ICIce Cube9:59

       (laughs)

5. 9:59 – 13:53

   Aging athletes across sports: practice, recovery, and alternative formats

   1. JRJoe Rogan9:59

      This is so stupid. That's the thing with older fighters too, they have a hard time getting through camps. That's-

   2. ICIce Cube10:04

      Yes.

   3. JRJoe Rogan10:04

      ... that's part... It's like they can still fight, but getting through a eight-week camp is oof. Two a days and all the sparring and-

   4. ICIce Cube10:12

      Yeah, too much.

   5. JRJoe Rogan10:13

      Yeah.

   6. ICIce Cube10:14

      I remember, uh, forgot the football player. Um, he played for the Giants. Receiver. Uh, Plaxico Burress. Plaxico Burress. The coaches hated him 'cause... Well, I ain't gonna say hated him, you know. I'm just exaggerating, but they didn't like the fact that he would not practice at all, come in the game on Sunday, and score a touchdown. (laughs)

   7. JRJoe Rogan10:41

      (laughs)

   8. ICIce Cube10:41

      It's like it goes against everything that they preach. You have to practice, you have to practice, you have to practice. Then you are conditioned to score the touchdown. But he, he's like, "No, I gotta recover, I gotta recover, I gotta recover. And then by Sunday, I can go out and score a touchdown." And that goes against coach's-

   9. JRJoe Rogan11:01

      Yeah.

   10. ICIce Cube11:01

       ... philosophy.

   11. JRJoe Rogan11:03

       But he knew his own body.

   12. ICIce Cube11:04

       Of course.

   13. JRJoe Rogan11:05

       Yeah.

   14. ICIce Cube11:05

       And, and, and-

   15. JRJoe Rogan11:06

       (coughs)

   16. ICIce Cube11:08

       You know, we all know our own body to a certain extent.

   17. JRJoe Rogan11:11

       Yeah.

   18. ICIce Cube11:11

       You know, and, and I think you should always save a athlete from himself, but you shouldn't push a athlete before he's ready to go.

   19. JRJoe Rogan11:21

       Yeah. Yeah, it's like, it's, it's always different for different people too. Like-

   20. ICIce Cube11:26

       Yes.

   21. JRJoe Rogan11:26

       ... some people recover quicker. It's just, you know, as athletes get older in particular, they get more and more wise to that. More and more wise to like how their body works and what they need to do and not need to do.

   22. ICIce Cube11:39

       Yeah. You know, the... You know, I heard one player say that, "Man, they don't pa- they don't pay me to play in the game. Like, I'll do that for free. 70,000, 15,000 fans. (laughs) Who wouldn't do that for free? They pay me to practice. They pay me to show up on time. (laughs) They pay me to do all the stuff I d- I don't wanna do." And you know, that makes sense, but sometimes...... you don't practice somebody just because you're paying them.

   23. JRJoe Rogan12:12

       Yeah. Well, the difference being, like, you can never do this with foot- uh, when football players are done, they're kind of done, because the, just the damage they take.

   24. ICIce Cube12:22

       Some, you know, I think it, it depends on the style. You know, I think you could do, um, you know, a, a interesting flag version of football. Um, I think you could sell it if it was, you know, thought about and really worked on to, to be, you know, pleasing to the fans. Um-

   25. JRJoe Rogan12:49

       How would you do that? Like, what would make ... 'Cause people love touchdowns, but they also love tackles. They love people getting hit.

   26. ICIce Cube12:56

       Yeah. Um, I mean, there's a few ways to do it. You know, you could, you could do pads, seven on seven, um, and, and kinda, you know, open the game up a little bit so it's not so, uh, many collisions coming from so many different angles.

   27. JRJoe Rogan13:15

       Mm. Yeah.

   28. ICIce Cube13:15

       Uh, less people, uh, more space, more skill set, not so brute, but a little bit of hitting. You could do it that way too.

   29. JRJoe Rogan13:27

       Yeah. That could, that could work. The flag one I would think would be kind of tough.

   30. ICIce Cube13:30

       It's tough because people look at flag as, as a kind of like a side, you know, a byproduct of football, not real football.
6. 13:53 – 17:35

   Floyd Mayweather’s reinvention and the art of being unhittable

   1. JRJoe Rogan13:53

      Well, it's interesting when fighters figure out ways to do that too, like what Floyd is doing. What Floyd is doing is so interesting. He retires from fighting-

   2. ICIce Cube14:01

      Yeah.

   3. JRJoe Rogan14:01

      ... and he says, "I'll just start boxing people who have no chance." (laughs)

   4. ICIce Cube14:06

      (laughs) Hey, why not, you know?

   5. JRJoe Rogan14:08

      (laughs)

   6. ICIce Cube14:08

      I mean, exhibition, like, we saw that-

   7. JRJoe Rogan14:11

      Yeah.

   8. ICIce Cube14:11

      ... in what, what is it, Rocky III or something?

   9. JRJoe Rogan14:13

      Yeah. Yeah.

   10. ICIce Cube14:14

       It's like, yo, I mean, he's like ... He started doing exhibitions with Hulk Hogan and, you know- (laughs)

   11. JRJoe Rogan14:20

       Yeah. Exactly, exactly. (laughs)

   12. ICIce Cube14:22

       And got caught. I mean, he got hurt-

   13. JRJoe Rogan14:23

       Yeah.

   14. ICIce Cube14:23

       ... like, you know, dealing with that. So, I mean, I think people want to see Floyd fight. You know, some people want to see him lose. You know, I never wanted to see Floyd lose. (laughs) And, um, so he'll always have some interest, you know, even if he's fighting, you know?

   15. JRJoe Rogan14:42

       What he did is str- inc- it's just complete genius.

   16. ICIce Cube14:46

       Yes.

   17. JRJoe Rogan14:46

       First of all, from just changing his style, right? He broke his hands a lot.

   18. ICIce Cube14:50

       Mm-hmm.

   19. JRJoe Rogan14:50

       So when he was younger, they called him Pretty Boy Floyd.

   20. ICIce Cube14:52

       Yeah.

   21. JRJoe Rogan14:52

       And then, he changes his name to Money. And when he changes his name to Money, he turns heel.

   22. ICIce Cube14:57

       Yeah.

   23. JRJoe Rogan14:57

       He be- he became, like, this guy talk- And everybody wanted to see him get beat.

   24. ICIce Cube15:01

       Yeah.

   25. JRJoe Rogan15:01

       And he's the most unhittable guy in the history of the sport.

   26. ICIce Cube15:04

       Yes, sir.

   27. JRJoe Rogan15:05

       He's right up there with s- Pernell Whitaker. Like, those are the two guys that I say are like the most elusive guys-

   28. ICIce Cube15:10

       Yeah.

   29. JRJoe Rogan15:11

       ... in a, in modern, not, you know, past Willie Pep-

   30. ICIce Cube15:12

       Yeah.
7. 17:35 – 28:08

   Tyson’s aura: intimidation, walkouts, and heavyweight mythology

   1. JRJoe Rogan17:35

      There was like a lot of ... Like, during the Tyson era, nobody got the rub. (laughs)

   2. ICIce Cube17:40

      (laughs) No.

   3. JRJoe Rogan17:40

      He was like ... He got in there, and you were like, "Fuck this." (laughs)

   4. ICIce Cube17:43

      I mean, Tyson had just so many s- He had so many psychological advantages.

   5. JRJoe Rogan17:48

      Yes.

   6. ICIce Cube17:48

      You know, everybody else, you know, you know, "Give me the pretty robe. Put this satin on the robe. I need to ... You know, I need to look fla- I had to have flairs coming from my, my tassels, you know, have to be right. You know, I got to look pretty coming in there." Floyd come in there gladi- gladiator style.

   7. JRJoe Rogan18:06

      Yeah. Mike-

   8. ICIce Cube18:07

      Towel-

   9. JRJoe Rogan18:07

      Mike had a towel over his head with a hole in it. (laughs)

   10. ICIce Cube18:09

       And, and, and, and no socks on.

   11. JRJoe Rogan18:11

       No socks. (laughs)

   12. ICIce Cube18:14

       He ain't here for none of that.

   13. JRJoe Rogan18:15

       (laughs)

   14. ICIce Cube18:16

       He just here to whoop your ass.

   15. JRJoe Rogan18:18

       It was the best.

   16. ICIce Cube18:19

       And, and, and, you know, and he, he psychologically beat a lot of people before he even-

   17. JRJoe Rogan18:24

       Yeah.

   18. ICIce Cube18:24

       ... landed that fatal punch.

   19. JRJoe Rogan18:26

       Oh, yeah. Even after the Buster Douglas fight, he, that didn't even take it away from him.

   20. ICIce Cube18:30

       Yeah.

   21. JRJoe Rogan18:30

       A lot of times when a guy gets knocked out, like, their aura of invincibility goes away, but with Mike, it was still there.

   22. ICIce Cube18:36

       Yeah, 'cause people are always scared of the, you know, when you snap. Nobody wanna deal with crazy.

   23. JRJoe Rogan18:44

       (laughs)

   24. ICIce Cube18:44

       You know what I mean? (laughs) Everybody can deal with everything but, you know, everybody get out the way of crazy.

   25. JRJoe Rogan18:50

       Yeah.

   26. ICIce Cube18:51

       Yeah.

   27. JRJoe Rogan18:51

       When Mike was screaming, "I'll eat your children." (laughs)

   28. ICIce Cube18:54

       Man, yeah.

   29. JRJoe Rogan18:56

       Yeah, this is the, the walkout. Look, he's just pushing everybody out of the way.

   30. ICIce Cube18:59

       Yeah, pushing everybody out the way. Nobody even wanna give him a dap 'cause they don't know if he gonna knock them out on his way-
8. 28:08 – 33:22

   Money, cars, and early fame lessons (Tupac story, first purchases, spending pressure)

   1. JRJoe Rogan28:08

      They give these dudes money, and they... You could just go buy one of those cars. It's kinda crazy. You could just go buy a 700 horsepower car you don't even know how to drive. (laughs)

   2. ICIce Cube28:17

      Yeah.

   3. JRJoe Rogan28:18

      You just have money. (laughs)

   4. ICIce Cube28:19

      Yeah, I know. I, I used to, um... It was a trip 'cause I remember being at the studio, Echoserum one time, and Tupac came. He pulled up in a Benz. It's like, "Oh, man, Pac, you got your Benz." He's like, "Yep, I don't have my license, man. I hope I don't wreck it."

   5. JRJoe Rogan28:36

      (laughs)

   6. ICIce Cube28:36

      (laughs) I'm like, "Dad... Man, park that car, man."

   7. JRJoe Rogan28:40

      (laughs)

   8. ICIce Cube28:40

      "You don't know how to drive it?" He's like, "Nah, man, I've been in New York, man, for so long-"

   9. JRJoe Rogan28:45

      (laughs)

   10. ICIce Cube28:45

       "... I don't worry about driving." I'm like, "Oh." You know, I think he did wreck it a few times, you know what I'm saying?

   11. JRJoe Rogan28:52

       (laughs)

   12. ICIce Cube28:52

       Before it was all said and done.

   13. JRJoe Rogan28:53

       Learning how to drive-

   14. ICIce Cube28:54

       You know?

   15. JRJoe Rogan28:54

       ... first car's a Benz.

   16. ICIce Cube28:55

       Yeah, it's a Benz, you know. It was like 500.

   17. JRJoe Rogan28:59

       What was the first thing you bought when you started making money?

   18. ICIce Cube29:02

       Uh, man, the first thing I bought? Um...

   19. JRJoe Rogan29:06

       Like, the first car.

   20. ICIce Cube29:08

       Oh, man, I bought a, uh, a Honda Accord.

   21. JRJoe Rogan29:12

       (laughs)

   22. ICIce Cube29:13

       (laughs) I bought a Honda Accord, you know?

   23. JRJoe Rogan29:15

       (laughs)

   24. ICIce Cube29:15

       They had just come out with a new model. It was about, it was about 20 Gs. And I was like, you know, "I'm, I'm sick of rolling around here and..." You know, at first, I had like a, uh, a Sidekick, you know, a Suzuki Sidekick.

   25. JRJoe Rogan29:30

       Oh, no.

   26. ICIce Cube29:31

       Suzuki made cars.

   27. JRJoe Rogan29:32

       I remember those. (laughs)

   28. ICIce Cube29:32

       A Sidekick, and then I was like, "Man, I need some, I need some luxury." You know what I mean? I'm starting to make money, you know? Let's go down here and get this Honda Accord, me-

   29. JRJoe Rogan29:41

       (laughs)

   30. ICIce Cube29:42

       ... (laughs) and the wi- Kim, she's my wife, but she was my girlfriend at the time, so we went down there. Place on, uh, I think it was La Cienega, they had a Honda spot, and I just went in there and bought a black Honda Accord. Cash.
9. 33:22 – 39:44

   Family legacy and O’Shea Jackson Jr. playing Ice Cube in Straight Outta Compton

   1. ICIce Cube33:22

      Um, and so, you know, um, you gotta take that responsibility serious because you never know when others in my family bloodline, or whatever, are gonna be able to have the opportunities that I had, you know. Even though my son, O'Shay Jr., you know, he's working constantly. He's in Spain right now.

   2. JRJoe Rogan33:46

      Yeah, he is.

   3. ICIce Cube33:46

      Yeah.

   4. JRJoe Rogan33:46

      That's amaz- that's amazing that he's, he's just carrying on. That's beautiful.

   5. ICIce Cube33:50

      It is, man.

   6. JRJoe Rogan33:51

      That must make you very proud.

   7. ICIce Cube33:52

      Man, it's like the best. One, one guy asked me, you know, "How does it feel seeing your, your son, you know, Straight Outta Compton and, and I don't know, does so well?" I said, "It's like, it's like winning the Super Bowl on a team, and then your son comes and win the Super Bowl for that same team."

   8. JRJoe Rogan34:17

      Mm.

   9. ICIce Cube34:18

      That's the feeling. I don't know if anybody has ever had that feeling, but it seems like that's how I feel. It's like I won with NWA and he won with NWA.

   10. JRJoe Rogan34:31

       That's amazing. That's amaz-... And what a perfect person to play. I mean, h- how... Who, who would be better to play you?

   11. ICIce Cube34:39

       Exactly.

   12. JRJoe Rogan34:39

       It's perfect. It's perfect.

   13. ICIce Cube34:40

       I mean, uh, before he, you know, decided to take the movie, I wa- you know, I would take him on tour with me and we would do... We was doing that anyway. He would jump on stage, he would do Dope Man and, you know, I'm like, "Yo, this is my son," you know? And, um, I'm like, "Man, he, he got that swagger up here." You know what I mean?

   14. JRJoe Rogan35:02

       (laughs)

   15. ICIce Cube35:02

       Remind me of a young me. Okay. So-

   16. JRJoe Rogan35:06

       (laughs)

   17. ICIce Cube35:06

       ... when it was time to do the movie, when it was really a go, I went to him and I said, uh, "Hey, man, this, this NWA movie look like it's gonna go." Um, he was like, "Cool, man. That's good. Good luck, man. Th- that's great." (laughs) I'm like, "Hold on. Hold on." I said, uh, "I want you to play me." He was like, "Okay." And I'm like, "Well, that was too easy." You know what I mean?

   18. JRJoe Rogan35:35

       (laughs)

   19. ICIce Cube35:35

       That was like... You know. That was... He was like, "Okay," and he just kept on walking. I'm like, "Wait a minute." And then I said, "I gotta see if he's serious, uh, or he's just, you know, saying okay just to say okay." But it's, it's a hell of a lot of work. So I, um, I started putting him through the, through the ringer a little bit, you know. I was like, "Hey, man, we got a acting s- we got a acting coach for you in, uh, L- LA. You need to go down there on Thursday. You know, you need to be there at this time," and that, boom, boom, boom. He's like, "Oh, o- All right. All right." And he would go, and I'm like, "Okay, he's starting to go. But is he just going? Is he participating? Is he into it? You know, boom." So I said, "I'm gonna try something else." I sent him to New York to, to a guy, uh, for, for, you know, training, acting.... like him send him all the way to New York to see if he'll do that, 'cause that's when he'll bail, be like, "Uh, I don't, you know, I got something to do." So he, he got on the plane, flew to New York-

   20. JRJoe Rogan36:41

       Ugh.

   21. ICIce Cube36:41

       ... worked with this cat, flew back. Now, when he flew back, I, I was checking him out, seeing what he was doing. You know, we was far from actually casting a movie at that time. And then he was like, uh, he came up, he was like, "I'm gonna go work with my coach today." I'm like, "What?" He said, "Yeah, me and my acting coach were gonna get together and we're gonna do a couple of things." So I'm like, "He's into it. He's into it." Yeah. So then I let him do that. So now I have to approach Gary Gray. Now Gary Gray is the director of Straight Outta Compton. He also directed Friday, and he directed, uh, It Was a Good Day. You know, these are some of my biggest projects. And when I told him, uh, he was like, "Yeah man, it's cool, you know." He was thinking about who he gonna get to play him. I said, "Okay, guess who I want to play Ice Cube." He's like, "Who? Who? Who?" I said, "My son." He was like, "Ah."

   22. JRJoe Rogan37:42

       (laughs)

   23. ICIce Cube37:44

       "Cube."

   24. JRJoe Rogan37:45

       (laughs)

   25. ICIce Cube37:45

       He said, "What the fuck, man? I thought we was making a real movie, man."

   26. JRJoe Rogan37:52

       (laughs)

   27. ICIce Cube37:53

       (laughs) I said, "Motherfucker, we are making a real movie. What you talking about?"

   28. JRJoe Rogan37:58

       (sighs)

   29. ICIce Cube37:59

       I said, "He's gonna be great in it. He's gonna be great, if he get the part. Uh, he'll have to audition and Universal will sign off on him. But you gonna work with him, just like John Singleton work with me. You know what I mean? John put me in Boyz n the Hood. I didn't act. I wasn't no actor, I was just a rapper. And, um, he saw something in me, put me in the movie and he helped me through it and the rest is history. And you gonna do the same thing." And he was like, "Wow." So make a long story short, it's audition time, screen test time. Now, my son go in there and he said he got pissed off 'cause there's five other fucking Ice Cubes there to audition. (laughs)

   30. JRJoe Rogan38:48

       (laughs)
10. 39:44 – 44:39

    NWA’s shockwave, censorship fights, and the Parental Advisory sticker origin

    1. JRJoe Rogan39:44

       That's amazing. That's ama-... Y- your career, like i- i- what's one of the things that's so fascinating about your career is like there was never anyone like you before that did what you did. You went from gangster rap to, like, family movies.

    2. ICIce Cube40:01

       Yeah.

    3. JRJoe Rogan40:02

       Like, no one's ever done that.

    4. ICIce Cube40:04

       Nah.

    5. JRJoe Rogan40:04

       And then sports entertainment, like you, you've branched out into so many things. But the, the key part of it that people need to understand today is when you guys came out, when NWA came out, the whole world went, "What the fuck?"

    6. ICIce Cube40:19

       Yes.

    7. JRJoe Rogan40:19

       The whole world. I remember I was on, I was in Revere, Massachusetts. I was on an elliptical-

    8. ICIce Cube40:23

       (laughs)

    9. JRJoe Rogan40:23

       ... machine at the gym.

    10. ICIce Cube40:25

        Mm-hmm.

    11. JRJoe Rogan40:25

        And a friend of mine told me, "You gotta listen to this shit." And I had a, a cassette Walkman.

    12. ICIce Cube40:29

        Yeah.

    13. JRJoe Rogan40:29

        So I'm there with a cassette Walkman on an elliptical sh- uh, elliptical machine listening to Straight Outta Compton going, "Holy shit." Like this is wild. There was nothing like that before that. And I remember, like, laughing while, while I was riding the elliptical.

    14. ICIce Cube40:43

        Yeah.

    15. JRJoe Rogan40:43

        I'm like, "These guys are out of their fucking minds." (laughs)

    16. ICIce Cube40:45

        (laughs) Yeah.

    17. JRJoe Rogan40:46

        "This is crazy." And then there was, like, the Tipper Gore shit-

    18. ICIce Cube40:51

        Yes.

    19. JRJoe Rogan40:51

        ... where Al Gore's wife was trying to censor rap music.

    20. ICIce Cube40:55

        The, the PMRC.

    21. JRJoe Rogan40:57

        Mm-hmm.

    22. ICIce Cube40:57

        Parents Resources Mu- Against Music Council, or something like that.

    23. JRJoe Rogan41:01

        Ugh.

    24. ICIce Cube41:02

        And, um-

    25. JRJoe Rogan41:03

        That was the Democrats, folks.

    26. ICIce Cube41:05

        That, that's the reason you have an advisory sticker on the record, because that was the compromise. They were saying, you know, "I sent my, (laughs) sent my daughter to the record store to buy a record. She came home with the fucking 2 Live Crew."

    27. JRJoe Rogan41:23

        (laughs)

    28. ICIce Cube41:24

        "I know this shit was gonna be like this."

    29. JRJoe Rogan41:27

        (laughs)

    30. ICIce Cube41:27

        You know, so, you know, the compromise from the, the record industry was, "We'll put a parental advisory sticker on the record to..." So if a parent was buying a record for Christmas, you know, they, parents was like, "I want Too $hort." You know what I mean? They go buy the Too $hort record, put it in, and they like, "What the f- the hell?" So we were the first group to put that sticker on our records. We were the very first group, because-
11. 44:39 – 59:05

    COVID-era coercion, vaccine mandates, and Hollywood’s $9M role controversy

    1. JRJoe Rogan44:39

       It's, it's hard today more than ever because you get so much pressure. People, like, especially during COVID. People ganged up on people. People were doing the man's work for the man. It's like-

    2. ICIce Cube44:49

       Yeah.

    3. JRJoe Rogan44:49

       ... who, who the fuck are you trusting? Like, why are you-

    4. ICIce Cube44:52

       Yeah. (laughs)

    5. JRJoe Rogan44:52

       ... trusting these people that have been lying forever?

    6. ICIce Cube44:55

       Yeah, man. It, it, it was wild during that time. Like, (exhales) it, it, you know, people, um, being bullied into doing things that they didn't wanna do. A lot of them didn't wanna do it. They, they did it because of their work or their-

    7. JRJoe Rogan45:14

       Yeah.

    8. ICIce Cube45:15

       ... you know, their, um, situations.

    9. JRJoe Rogan45:19

       And a lot of them got wrecked.

    10. ICIce Cube45:19

        Or, yeah, a lot of them are, are hurting right now, you know?

    11. JRJoe Rogan45:22

        Yeah.

    12. ICIce Cube45:22

        I know, you know, I know, um, a guy that's, you know, been dealing with tinnitus since, since he got it. And so, (smacks lips) you know-

    13. JRJoe Rogan45:35

        I know a lot of people-

    14. ICIce Cube45:35

        It's, it's just-

    15. JRJoe Rogan45:36

        ... who got fucked up.

    16. ICIce Cube45:37

        Yeah, yeah.

    17. JRJoe Rogan45:37

        I know quite a few people that got fucked up, some of them pretty bad. It's just, it, it was just, uh, there was, uh, (sighs) if you wanted to do it at, in a textbook way, like if it was a conspiracy, that's how I would do it. I'd isolate people, make them stay at home, take away their livelihood, make them scared, give them small checks, you know, gi- and then give them this thing that you gotta take to get back to normal. "Wanna get back to normal?" "Yeah." "Go take that."

    18. ICIce Cube46:03

        (laughs)

    19. JRJoe Rogan46:03

        "Don't worry. It's safe and effective, safe and effective, safe and effective." And then you have all this pressure, and everyone is yelling at you if you don't do it. "If you don't do it, we're not gonna get back to normal." And everybody got scared, and everybody just f- stepped in line, and it was strange. It's strange.

    20. ICIce Cube46:20

        Yeah, it was. Um, you know, stepping in line sometimes is not the way to go.

    21. JRJoe Rogan46:29

        No, it's not always the way to go.

    22. ICIce Cube46:30

        It's just, you know, you're trying to prevent and trying to make things all smooth and easy and no issues and, and back to normal and all that, and the world might be back to normal, but are you-

    23. JRJoe Rogan46:47

        Right.

    24. ICIce Cube46:47

        ... normal?

    25. JRJoe Rogan46:48

        Well, you gotta be able to make informed decisions.

    26. ICIce Cube46:51

        Yes.

    27. JRJoe Rogan46:51

        And when you can't make an informed decision and you're being pressured anyway, it's like, what, what are you? How long? And it, this is the thing that was driving me crazy. Before the election, all, when Donald Trump was president, all they were talking about is, "I'm not gonna take the shot." You're gonna take a shot that Trump made? Who's gonna take that shot? Even Biden was saying it.

    28. ICIce Cube47:11

        Mm-hmm.

    29. JRJoe Rogan47:11

        "Wh- who's gonna take it?" Kamala Harris was saying it. They were all saying it, "Don't take that. I would never take that." And then all of a sudden, Biden becomes president, and they're like, "You gotta take it." Like, is this the same thing?

    30. ICIce Cube47:20

        Wow.
12. 59:05 – 1:09:34

    Gatekeepers, corporate control, and culture-war consumer backlash (Bud Light/Target, ESG)

    1. JRJoe Rogan59:05

       And nobody wants to talk about it. That's the crazy thing, 'cause all the news stories-

    2. ICIce Cube59:08

       Nobody can.

    3. JRJoe Rogan59:09

       Yeah.

    4. ICIce Cube59:10

       You, you know, that's what I'm talking about, the, the gatekeepers.

    5. JRJoe Rogan59:12

       Uh-huh.

    6. ICIce Cube59:13

       Nobody can talk about it because somebody above them told 'em no, um, from this outlet, that outlet.

    7. JRJoe Rogan59:21

       Mm-hmm.

    8. ICIce Cube59:23

       (clears throat) You know, and the NBA, uh, going back to that, you know, I'm, I'm just kinda putting it in perspective, but the guys in the NBA used to talk about the big three, if you go back to year one, all the time, and then they just stop. And then I asks, you know, I asked my guy, you know, um, "What happened, man? Why y'all stop?" "They told us we couldn't-

    9. JRJoe Rogan59:48

       Oh.

    10. ICIce Cube59:48

        ... mention the big three anymore on air."

    11. JRJoe Rogan59:52

        Oh.

    12. ICIce Cube59:52

        So, I'm like, "That's chicken shit." You know, that's that, that's that bullshit that I'm talking about.

    13. JRJoe Rogan59:59

        Yeah.

    14. ICIce Cube1:00:00

        That, that, you know, I'm talking about what happened to me, but it obviously happens everywhere to all of us. You know what I mean?

    15. JRJoe Rogan1:00:09

        Mm-hmm.

    16. ICIce Cube1:00:09

        And, and we gotta somehow, someway, get these people out of our way. Or, um, not support what they're doing and producing. Um, you know, some of these mainstream outlets are really just an extension of these corporate conglomerates who-... wanna, you know, kinda control our emotions, control our movement, control our spending, control our personalities, control our mind. Um, and, you know, what we gonna do about it, like, at the end of the day? You know what I'm saying? Like, we gonna just sit here and let it happen day after day till we're steamrolled and, and, and, um, wore out and have no fight in us? Or are we gonna stand up where we can, you know what I mean? And push back when we can. I know everybody can't in all situations, and don't feel bad when you can't. But when you can and you know you can, do it.

    17. JRJoe Rogan1:01:29

        Yes.

    18. ICIce Cube1:01:29

        Do it. Like, when you have the leverage, take it.

    19. JRJoe Rogan1:01:33

        Yeah.

    20. ICIce Cube1:01:34

        You know? Take it. Like, like, you ever see, when you got the leverage, you gotta go.

    21. JRJoe Rogan1:01:38

        Yeah.

    22. ICIce Cube1:01:38

        Use that-

    23. JRJoe Rogan1:01:39

        Yeah.

    24. ICIce Cube1:01:39

        ... to your advantage. You might not always have the leverage. You might not always have, you know, the right, uh, timing. But, when you do, when you can, we, we gotta, we gotta buck- buck back, you know. Um, if not, we just gonna continue to get steamrolled and not be heard and canceled and all this kinda stupid stuff.

    25. JRJoe Rogan1:02:04

        Yeah, and we're just repeating patterns that have played out throughout history.

    26. ICIce Cube1:02:07

        Yes.

    27. JRJoe Rogan1:02:08

        When people get power, they wanna have ultimate power. They want more power. The, any obstructions they see to their goals, any things that people were doing that would get in the way, they wanna silence that, stop that. They wanna bust unions. They wanna do whatever the fuck they can to consolidate their power.

    28. ICIce Cube1:02:27

        Yeah. And it's, uh, at a certain point, it's just ridiculous.

    29. JRJoe Rogan1:02:31

        Yeah.

    30. ICIce Cube1:02:31

        And, um-
13. 1:09:34 – 1:21:00

    Transgender athletes, women’s sports, and the ‘slippery slope’ debate

    1. JRJoe Rogan1:09:34

       ... you know, and this is one, this is another one that's like, it's like forced compliance. You have to, you're forced to comply with this. And, you know, it's fucking up women's sports in a huge way, in a huge way. And, you know, some organizations are, are pushing back against that and some people are pushing back against the organizations that are pushing back against it, which to me is insane. Like if you care at all about biological women, you should be against that.

    2. ICIce Cube1:10:02

       What I d- I mean, what if like LeBron said he wanted to play in the WNBA?

    3. JRJoe Rogan1:10:06

       (laughs)

    4. ICIce Cube1:10:06

       Like, "I'm retiring from the NBA 'cause I'm 49 and I'm gonna play in the WNBA."

    5. JRJoe Rogan1:10:11

       Well, they wouldn't be able to stop it if he just decided to say publicly, "I identify as a woman." What are they gonna do? They can't do anything and then that would be the end. (laughs) That would be... Dave Chappelle has a bit about it.

    6. ICIce Cube1:10:23

       Yeah.

    7. JRJoe Rogan1:10:24

       (laughs)

    8. ICIce Cube1:10:24

       It's like, "LeBron scores 100 again tonight."

    9. JRJoe Rogan1:10:29

       Well, there was some fucking, uh, knucklehead that was getting interviewed, they said, "If Mike Tyson and Diana Jaffar as a woman, should he be able to fight women?" And they were like, "Well, the short answer is yes."

    10. ICIce Cube1:10:38

        Oh.

    11. JRJoe Rogan1:10:40

        (laughs)

    12. ICIce Cube1:10:40

        Lord. (laughs)

    13. JRJoe Rogan1:10:43

        (laughs) It's so crazy.

    14. ICIce Cube1:10:44

        Yeah.

    15. JRJoe Rogan1:10:44

        It's so c- And there's also different specifications as to like what you have to do and how long you have to take hormones before you can identify as a woman and compete as a woman. Like, just fucking stop.

    16. ICIce Cube1:10:53

        I mean, who's going to check all that?

    17. JRJoe Rogan1:10:55

        Yeah. There's a reason why there's women's sports-

    18. ICIce Cube1:10:57

        Yes.

    19. JRJoe Rogan1:10:57

        ... and there's a reason why there's men's sports and it's, we're, you're not talking about who, who you are and what your truth is. Live your truth.

    20. ICIce Cube1:11:03

        I mean, Title IX just got, you know, was just turned, what, 30 or-

    21. JRJoe Rogan1:11:09

        Yeah.

    22. ICIce Cube1:11:10

        ... something like that. You know what I mean? So-

    23. JRJoe Rogan1:11:12

        Protecting women's sports, yeah.

    24. ICIce Cube1:11:13

        Yeah, which is, which is great because it forces schools and, you know, they make a lot of money, you know, teaching whatever they teach in them schools, and they should carve out some for women to be able to play for their school, you know? That's great. And, um, so I don't understand... You know, sometimes things don't make crazy man sense. And when they, (laughs) when they don't make crazy man sense, I just back out. (laughs)

    25. JRJoe Rogan1:11:46

        (laughs)

    26. ICIce Cube1:11:47

        I just stop thinking about it.

    27. JRJoe Rogan1:11:48

        Yeah, it's probably a good move-

    28. ICIce Cube1:11:49

        Yeah.

    29. JRJoe Rogan1:11:49

        ... 'cause you're not gonna solve it.

    30. ICIce Cube1:11:51

        No.

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