The Joe Rogan ExperienceJoe Rogan Experience #2005 - Tom Segura
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150 min read · 30,122 words- 0:00 – 15:00
(drumming music) Joe Rogan podcast,…
- NANarrator
(drumming music) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out. The Joe Rogan Experience.
- JRJoe Rogan
Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. (rock music) Yeehaw, what's up, Tommy Fun?
- TSTom Segura
What's up, my man?
- JRJoe Rogan
How are you, my brother? What's cracking?
- TSTom Segura
I'm doing well. I'm super stoked, man. Thanks for having me.
- JRJoe Rogan
Lookin' good, lookin' lean.
- TSTom Segura
Grrr.
- JRJoe Rogan
You've- you've fucking stuck with it, man. You fuckin' stuck with it.
- TSTom Segura
Try to. Yeah, I've- I've been working hard at it, actually.
- JRJoe Rogan
It's crazy. I mean, you're so- you've been so consistent, it's amazing.
- TSTom Segura
Isn't that weird how that works? (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- TSTom Segura
That's what, uh- that's what I- I've said that to a few people, and they're like, "Yeah, that's- that's what happ-" I mean, I don't know. I just keep- I think I had this, um- I- I don't know if I told you, like this mentality before, where I would go- if I got to a- a number on the scale, I thought of it as, like, a finish line.
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- TSTom Segura
I didn't realize I was doing it, but I was. I was going, "Oh, I got there."
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- TSTom Segura
And then you just kinda go, "Well, if you're done, you're done."
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- TSTom Segura
And then you just kind of ... regress.
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm-hmm.
- TSTom Segura
So I just realize now that it's just- it is- it is every day.
- JRJoe Rogan
It is life.
- TSTom Segura
It's life, it's part of life, yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, if you can think about it that way. Y- also, you gotta think about it like d- delayed gratitude. Delayed gratitude's a very important concept if you wanna-
- TSTom Segura
Yes.
- JRJoe Rogan
... have a happy life. You can't just have gratitude in front of your face all the time.
- TSTom Segura
No.
- JRJoe Rogan
Y- you'll- you'll just be a mess. You want delayed gratitude, and sp- specifically for your physical health, 'cause you don't feel good in- in the end of the day, like unless you've y- y- when I don't work out, if I have a day that I blow it off-
- TSTom Segura
Mm-hmm.
- JRJoe Rogan
... which is rare, but it does happen-
- 15:00 – 30:00
Yeah. …
- JRJoe Rogan
and someone else is... I remember when I was on Fear Factor. So I was, uh, you know, doing standup when I could, but goddamn it, I was working a lot. I was working a lot. I was just... It was a lot of hours. And I remember I'd go to the store, and I'd, uh, run into someone who was a full-time comic, and they're on the road. "Yeah, I just did, uh, West Palm. I was there Thursday, Friday, Saturday." I was like, "Oh."
- TSTom Segura
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
"That sounds so much better."
- TSTom Segura
And-
- JRJoe Rogan
"Sounds like so much more fun-
- TSTom Segura
Yeah, then doing taping these-
- JRJoe Rogan
... telling jokes."
- TSTom Segura
... shows, yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. It's just like, to me, it was like doing standup seemed so much better. It seem-... It just seemed like a better life. Like, that's w-... That's what I'm... Uh, it's more interesting.
- TSTom Segura
But you also have to have a... Like, when I look back at the choices I made early on (glass clinking) in standup, you know, you actually are in a, a bit of denial, um, about-
- JRJoe Rogan
How bad you are?
- TSTom Segura
How... Well, not just how bad you are. How bad your life is.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- TSTom Segura
Like, like, I mean, I w-... I'm not living in a... Like, m-... All my friends with regular jobs have a much better quality of life. But here's the thing. It didn't even bother me, really.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, because you wanted it so bad.
- TSTom Segura
Yeah. I, I just wanted it so bad that you, y-... I'm saying you, you have a bit of... You have a delusion almost, right? Like, people see where you live.
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- TSTom Segura
And they, and they're like, "How much money are you making?"
- JRJoe Rogan
But you're used to it.
- TSTom Segura
You're so used to it, yeah. You're like-
- JRJoe Rogan
As long as you're used to it, it's fine. If you... Now, one thing would be, like, say if you had some white-collar job, and you were making s- six figures a year, and then you decided to go b- to standup, and then you were living in the place, like-
- TSTom Segura
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
... you were living in when I met you. Then it would suck a fat dick.
- TSTom Segura
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
'Cause you'd be like, "Fuck."
- TSTom Segura
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
"Now I'm falling apart." It's very difficult for people to downsize with the intention of upsizing eventually.
- TSTom Segura
It's, it's almost impossible.
- JRJoe Rogan
It's hard.
- TSTom Segura
Yeah.
- 30:00 – 45:00
How good were they?…
- TSTom Segura
of these croissants.
- JRJoe Rogan
How good were they?
- TSTom Segura
They were unbelievable.
- JRJoe Rogan
They looked pretty damn good.
- TSTom Segura
Yeah. They were so unbelievable.
- JRJoe Rogan
Look at you. You've written- you know how to say them?
- TSTom Segura
N- well... (laughs) No, I stammered through it.
- JRJoe Rogan
Par de chocolat.
- TSTom Segura
Yeah. I think they told me that in, in, in Paris, they say ch- chocolatine for a chocolate croissant. They don't say-
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh.
- TSTom Segura
They don't say- we don't say, "un croissant au chocolat." We say, "un chocolatine." And I said, "Okay."
- JRJoe Rogan
Chocolatine.
- TSTom Segura
Yeah, but we were definitely-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- TSTom Segura
... tearing them up in Paris.
- JRJoe Rogan
France is falling apart right now. Isn't that wild?
- TSTom Segura
... is it? The per- the France is on-
- JRJoe Rogan
Have you seen what's going on?
- TSTom Segura
I mean, when I was there-
- JRJoe Rogan
The riots?
- TSTom Segura
Oh, when I was there, there was big riots. Big ones.
- JRJoe Rogan
Did you see the riots from the- they- the police killed a guy?
- TSTom Segura
No.
- JRJoe Rogan
You didn't see those?
- TSTom Segura
When I was there, it was about the retirement age.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, this is way worse. This is way, way worse.
- TSTom Segura
What's the issue? What's-
- JRJoe Rogan
This is the last few days.
- TSTom Segura
What is the issue?
- JRJoe Rogan
Somebody got murdered. There's been f- fucking gunfire in the streets, lighting buil- businesses on fire. For, like, five days. It's been like The Purge. Some of the videos are insane.
- 45:00 – 1:00:00
Wonder what it is.…
- TSTom Segura
loans, I mean, that amount has to be in, like, the trillions.
- JRJoe Rogan
Wonder what it is. Let's find out. What's the collective student loan debt in the United States as of 20-
- GIGuest (unidentified, short interjection)
I think, you know, there is a differentiation in this conversation, that it's federal student loan debt, not private student loan debt-
- TSTom Segura
Hmm.
- GIGuest (unidentified, short interjection)
... which is a big difference.
- TSTom Segura
Hmm.
- JRJoe Rogan
Okay.
- GIGuest (unidentified, short interjection)
That, that's companies that do on that debt, versus, like, the government that granted-
- TSTom Segura
So, this is just federal-
- GIGuest (unidentified, short interjection)
... stuff like that.
- TSTom Segura
... federal-
- GIGuest (unidentified, short interjection)
Um.
- TSTom Segura
... student loans.
- GIGuest (unidentified, short interjection)
Pretty sure of that.
- JRJoe Rogan
Hmm. Okay, so there's two different types of loan debt. Uh, so I would, I wanna know what it is compared to the military industrial complex budget. (laughs)
- TSTom Segura
Oh, yeah. Right. That budget is astronomical.
- JRJoe Rogan
That's a budget, boy.
- GIGuest (unidentified, short interjection)
Uh-
- JRJoe Rogan
They accidentally paid an extra six billion-
- GIGuest (unidentified, short interjection)
There it is.
- JRJoe Rogan
... to Ukraine. They're like, "Whoops."
- TSTom Segura
Whoopsie.
- GIGuest (unidentified, short interjection)
See, this-
- TSTom Segura
Typo.
- GIGuest (unidentified, short interjection)
... with this statement, I don't know if this is differentiating that either. It says it's 1.78 trillion in student loan debt.
- JRJoe Rogan
Whoa.
- TSTom Segura
It's a lot, dude.
- JRJoe Rogan
Whoa.
- GIGuest (unidentified, short interjection)
To the US.
- JRJoe Rogan
That's more than people owe on any other type of debt in the US, except for mortgages, though the Biden adminis- administration is trying to forgive hundreds of billions of dollars in student loan balances. That's more than people owe on any other type of debt in the US. Well, except for mortgages.
- 1:00:00 – 1:08:12
A few. Not many.…
- TSTom Segura
A few. Not many.
- JRJoe Rogan
Not now.
- TSTom Segura
And I go, "No, no, no." And I go, uh, I go... All right. Here's the thing.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- TSTom Segura
The reason I've even brought this up is that the guy, this was years ago, had like the best website I'd ever seen at the time.
- JRJoe Rogan
No way.
- TSTom Segura
I was like, "This website's fucking amazing." And like all his marketing tools were incredible.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- TSTom Segura
You know? Like, he had like cool business card, and like you went to his site and you were like, "Shit, it looks like-"
- JRJoe Rogan
The geo-locate?
- TSTom Segura
Yeah, dude. Like his-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- TSTom Segura
... site looked like fucking Nike built it, you know? I was like, "This thing is fucking rad," you know? And he goes up on the second, the- for his second set. Not only does he eat shit, but he does the same set as, like, as the first.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- TSTom Segura
Right? And I go, "Dude, you did the same shit." And he was just like, "Ah, yeah." And I could see he was in the... And I actually left there, I go, "All your shit is cool."... your website." And... I go, "You gotta work more on what you're doing on stage, so..."
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- TSTom Segura
Like, that's your priority.
- JRJoe Rogan
Don't you think, though, that that's, like, a distraction-
- TSTom Segura
Yes.
- JRJoe Rogan
... because they're not working on that other stuff?
- TSTom Segura
1000%.
- JRJoe Rogan
So they, they concentrate on the promotion because they're distracting themselves from the fact they're not working on the difficult stuff.
- TSTom Segura
And not only is that 100% true, but there are so many parallels in life to that.
- JRJoe Rogan
Sure.
- TSTom Segura
We can all go, like, "I'm working on this thing-
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm-hmm.
- TSTom Segura
... to avoid this thing."
- JRJoe Rogan
Yes.
- TSTom Segura
And then you can... And especially if you get good at the side thing-
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm-hmm.
Episode duration: 2:50:46
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