Joe Rogan Experience #2007 - Adrienne Iapalucci

Narrator 0:00 (drumming music) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out. The Joe Rogan Experience.

Joe Rogan 0:06 Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. (rock music) I know these chairs are kinda weird, but they are the fucking best chairs that I've ever found for sitting-

Adrienne Iapalucci 0:17 Oh, no, I like it.

Joe Rogan 0:17 ... for long hours at a time.

Adrienne Iapalucci 0:19 I like it.

Joe Rogan 0:19 It's called a Capisco, and is it Fully? What's the name of the company that makes them? They're the shit, the best ergonomic chairs I've ever had. They're the onl- for podcasting, 'cause y- if you think you wanna be, like, comfortable in like, like a nice, like, uh, one of those cool chairs with the buttons in it, you know, that people would sit and smoke cigars, after a while, your back would hurt.

Adrienne Iapalucci 0:39 Oh, no.

Joe Rogan 0:39 It's like you don't really, you have to kinda stay upright.

Adrienne Iapalucci 0:43 Makes sense.

Joe Rogan 0:44 These are the best.

Adrienne Iapalucci 0:45 I like it. The other one was just like, so tall.

Joe Rogan 0:48 Yeah, the oth- there's some of these, it's weird 'cause they're the same company, or the same co- they're the same chair, but I think different people made them, and some of them get real low. This one doesn't get very low.

Narrator 0:57 Yeah, it's called HAG is the name company, I guess, Capisco.

Joe Rogan 1:00 Oh, so it's, they've changed like twice?

Narrator 1:02 And few people sell it.

Joe Rogan 1:03 Oh.

Narrator 1:03 Now.

Joe Rogan 1:04 Well, that's the shit.

Narrator 1:04 That's just how it works.

Joe Rogan 1:06 Oh, no one's paying me to say that. They're the shit. What's up, Adrienne?

Adrienne Iapalucci 1:10 How you doing?

Joe Rogan 1:11 Good to see you.

Adrienne Iapalucci 1:12 Should I move this closer?

Joe Rogan 1:13 Yeah, right there is good.

Adrienne Iapalucci 1:14 All right.

Joe Rogan 1:14 You want some coffee?

Adrienne Iapalucci 1:15 Um, I just had some coffee.

Joe Rogan 1:17 Last night was really fun.

Adrienne Iapalucci 1:18 It was really fun.

Joe Rogan 1:19 I-

Adrienne Iapalucci 1:19 Your club's awesome.

Joe Rogan 1:20 Thank you very much. Um, I'm real excited that we got to meet, a- and I'm really excited that I got to see your standup, you know, 'cause, uh, Ari Shaffir has been singing your praises-

Adrienne Iapalucci 1:29 I know.

Joe Rogan 1:29 ... for so long.

Adrienne Iapalucci 1:30 He's the best. What's funny-

Joe Rogan 1:31 He loves you.

Adrienne Iapalucci 1:32 I know. When I first met him, I did not like him.

Joe Rogan 1:35 (laughs)

Adrienne Iapalucci 1:36 Like, I was like, "This guy's a dick."

Joe Rogan 1:37 (laughs) He's a little misunderstood.

Adrienne Iapalucci 1:41 Well-

Joe Rogan 1:41 He, he can be a dick.

Adrienne Iapalucci 1:43 Well, yeah, even when you'd text me, I was like, "Is this Ari-"

Joe Rogan 1:45 Oh.

Adrienne Iapalucci 1:45 "... playing a joke?" 'Cause he's always doing stuff like that to me.

Joe Rogan 1:49 Does he really?

Adrienne Iapalucci 1:49 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:50 Well, that's 'cause he loves you.

Adrienne Iapalucci 1:51 No, absolutely, but I d- I'm always skeptical if something's in his orbit. I'm like, "Hmm."

Joe Rogan 1:57 Right. He is the guy that do- that dosed Bert Kreischer-

Adrienne Iapalucci 1:59 Yes.

Joe Rogan 1:59 ... at his house.

Adrienne Iapalucci 2:00 Yes.

Joe Rogan 2:01 Dosed him at his house when he was supposed to be hanging out with his family. He gave him molly.

Adrienne Iapalucci 2:04 At least he did it at his house in a safe environment, I guess.

Joe Rogan 2:08 (laughs) I think Bert had the fucking time of his life. He just doesn't wanna admit it.

Adrienne Iapalucci 2:11 I could see that.

Joe Rogan 2:12 I think ultimately it was like a really bad thing that Ari did that, but, uh, there's a, I bet he had a good time. (laughs)

Adrienne Iapalucci 2:19 I'm sure. I mean, yeah, I, I think it's probably not great for their friendship, but-

Joe Rogan 2:23 It's te- it was terrible for their friendship. The wife was furious at him, and rightly so. Rightly so.

Adrienne Iapalucci 2:29 Ari does stuff where, like, you're like, "Hey, that's not cool."

Joe Rogan 2:33 Sh, sh, sh, sh, sh-

Adrienne Iapalucci 2:34 Do you know what he did to me?

Joe Rogan 2:36 (laughs)

Adrienne Iapalucci 2:36 So, he got into my ex-fiance's, um, computer, wrote an email from him to me.

Joe Rogan 2:44 Oh, God.

Adrienne Iapalucci 2:45 Where it was like, "I l- I'm still in love with you. We should get back together." And like-

Joe Rogan 2:48 Oh my God.

Adrienne Iapalucci 2:49 I know, and I was like, I had another boyfriend at the time, and I was like, "I don't feel like this at all," so I just deleted it. And then Ari later was like, "Do you check your emails?" And I was like, "You're a dick."

Joe Rogan 2:58 Oh my God.

Adrienne Iapalucci 2:59 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 2:59 What a psycho.

Adrienne Iapalucci 3:00 Yeah, I was like, "What if I still cared about this guy like that?"

Joe Rogan 3:03 What if you just started sending pussy pictures?

Adrienne Iapalucci 3:05 Oh my God. (laughs) Yeah.

Joe Rogan 3:06 Literally just-

Adrienne Iapalucci 3:06 I was like, "It's on. Come over."

Joe Rogan 3:07 (laughs) What if it was like, it's on and you started sending the wildest shit that you have on your hard drive?

Adrienne Iapalucci 3:12 Oh my God, that would be terrible.

Joe Rogan 3:13 I know, and then Ari has it.

Adrienne Iapalucci 3:15 Well-

Joe Rogan 3:15 And then he texts it to you later.

Adrienne Iapalucci 3:18 I think that he got-

Joe Rogan 3:18 Good Lord.

Adrienne Iapalucci 3:18 ... in his, his email and then left. Like, that's the thing that he's-

Joe Rogan 3:22 Oh.

Adrienne Iapalucci 3:22 I've had my phone opened by him, and he'll like write, "I love Black Cock on Twitter." Like, he just does that.

Joe Rogan 3:27 Could you imagine being your ex-fiance and then seeing a response to you in his email?

Adrienne Iapalucci 3:34 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 3:35 And then he's reading that and going, "What the fuck did I do?"

Adrienne Iapalucci 3:38 Right.

Joe Rogan 3:39 Like, like he thinks, "Oh my God, was I on drugs? Did I black out? I don't remember writing this."

Adrienne Iapalucci 3:43 I think he would ju- I think at this point anything that goes crazy I think is Ari, so I think he would-

Joe Rogan 3:47 Mm-hmm.

Adrienne Iapalucci 3:47 ... also just be like, "Who was in my office?"

Joe Rogan 3:50 Mm. Well, that's the benefit of having someone like Ari, you have plausible deniability-

Adrienne Iapalucci 3:56 Sure.

Joe Rogan 3:56 ... on tap.

Adrienne Iapalucci 3:57 You're just like-

Joe Rogan 3:57 Fucking Ari. Ari did it.

Adrienne Iapalucci 3:59 It's Ari.

Joe Rogan 3:59 He's such a psycho.

Adrienne Iapalucci 4:00 It's Ari.

Joe Rogan 4:01 Goddammit. Dammit, Ari.

Adrienne Iapalucci 4:03 He comes across sometimes as a dick because he's probably like autistic, but he is like a good guy.

Joe Rogan 4:09 He's a great guy.

Adrienne Iapalucci 4:10 He is.

Joe Rogan 4:10 I love that dude. But I don't think he's autistic. I think he just had a hard childhood.

Adrienne Iapalucci 4:15 Yeah, but like, I don't think he, like, he'll say stuff where you're like, "Ari, this is really inappropriate."

Joe Rogan 4:21 He does. He does.

Adrienne Iapalucci 4:22 So that's the only thing where I'm like, he might be on the spectrum.

Joe Rogan 4:26 Nah.

Adrienne Iapalucci 4:27 You don't think even like the tail end, like the beginning?

Joe Rogan 4:30 I think he's such a comedian that he has a really hard time interacting with regular people.

Adrienne Iapalucci 4:37 Maybe.

Joe Rogan 4:37 I think, I think he's so used to like the fun of chaos.

Adrienne Iapalucci 4:41 Sure.

Joe Rogan 4:41 Ari shit in a Tupperware container and brought it to Skankfest.

Adrienne Iapalucci 4:46 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 4:46 And then opened it up on stage in a crowded room where people were-

Adrienne Iapalucci 4:50 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 4:50 ... gagging and throwing up. It was Legion of Skanks, right? It wasn't Skank f- was it Skankfest? Whatever it was. With the Legion of Skanks guys. Ari shit in a Tupperware and brought it to the stage.

Adrienne Iapalucci 5:03 Sure, but that's still not as bad-

Joe Rogan 5:05 So-

Adrienne Iapalucci 5:05 ... as some of the stuff he says. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 5:06 But it's his le- that's his level of like acceptable behavior.

Adrienne Iapalucci 5:11 Yes.

Joe Rogan 5:11 Like to him, that was a thing that you should do.

Adrienne Iapalucci 5:13 Right.

Joe Rogan 5:14 Right? So like all this other stuff is just funsies.

Adrienne Iapalucci 5:17 That's true.

Joe Rogan 5:17 It's just funsies.

Adrienne Iapalucci 5:18 When I was on the road with him one time, he took out one of his bloody ass tampons.

Joe Rogan 5:22 (laughs)

Adrienne Iapalucci 5:23 And he was showing me, I go, "Don't touch me with them." He goes, "Okay." Like if you ask him like not to do something, he will respect that, but if you don't-

Joe Rogan 5:31 Yes.

Adrienne Iapalucci 5:31 ... it's game on.

Joe Rogan 5:31 He might b- might be game on. Yeah.

Adrienne Iapalucci 5:33 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 5:33 Yeah.

Adrienne Iapalucci 5:33 He'll do whatever. But like if you're like, "Hey, please don't do that," he's like, "All right, I'll respect that 'cause you said that."

Joe Rogan 5:37 I met Ari when he was a door guy at The Comedy Store. We became friends w- when he was just really just starting out. I don't think he'd been doing comedy like more than a year.

Adrienne Iapalucci 5:48 What, what did you think of him as a new comic?

Joe Rogan 5:50 He's funny. I knew he was really smart.

Adrienne Iapalucci 5:53 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 5:53 And, uh, he was just fun to be around, like he was a fun kid. He was like, you know, I knew after a while what, what was going on, but he was like recently divorced from religion.

Adrienne Iapalucci 6:06 Right.

Joe Rogan 6:07 So he's, like, super orthodox Jew-

Adrienne Iapalucci 6:09 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 6:09 ... you know, went to Israel, was studying the Talmud for, like, 12 hours a day, like wild shit. And then he has his real break from it, and then a few years later, he's hanging out with us smoking weed at The Comedy Store. But-

Adrienne Iapalucci 6:23 I wonder what he was like.

Joe Rogan 6:25 He was great.

Adrienne Iapalucci 6:25 No, no, no. Before-

Joe Rogan 6:26 Oh.

Adrienne Iapalucci 6:26 ... when he was, like, religious.

Joe Rogan 6:28 (sighs) What a mind fuck to do to a kid. It's such a mind fuck, because you're- you're- you're saying you absolutely know that this is how everything went down.

Adrienne Iapalucci 6:39 Right.

Joe Rogan 6:39 And there's no way that can be real. Even if the concepts of Christianity or Judaism, even if they're, like, real, they're real, that's what God really wants, there's no way you know whoever wrote that, like, what they wrote.

Adrienne Iapalucci 6:53 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 6:53 There's no way. This is human beings.

Adrienne Iapalucci 6:56 Yeah, I mean, I went to Catholic school my whole life and I just never believed any of that stuff.

Joe Rogan 7:00 I believed in it until I was-

Adrienne Iapalucci 7:01 You did?

Joe Rogan 7:01 ... six.

Adrienne Iapalucci 7:02 Yeah, okay, six. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 7:02 In first grade, I had one teacher, Sister Mary Josephine. She was such a cunt.

Adrienne Iapalucci 7:08 I bet.

Joe Rogan 7:08 She was so mean. She was so mean that I knew as a little boy, like, there's no way this could be connected to God.

Adrienne Iapalucci 7:16 No. (laughs) They're so mean.

Joe Rogan 7:17 I was like, this is, this is, this is an evil lady who would threaten you. If you didn't do something, you were gonna have to sleep on a nail in the closet, you'd have to stay home-

Adrienne Iapalucci 7:25 Ugh.

Joe Rogan 7:25 ... you're never gonna get to see your parents again. She would y- yell stuff like that. It was like she was evil. She tortured kids.

Adrienne Iapalucci 7:31 Can you imagine that existing today?

Joe Rogan 7:33 Oh, my God. It probably does. It probably does in some very unusual religious circumstances, you know? But it's just back then, when I was a kid, that was how they taught you in Catholic school, at least that lady. My sister got a great lady, though. My sister got a great e- a la- a lady in the same school that wasn't a nun. She was just a regular lady who was Catholic, who was teaching in a Catholic school. It didn't have to be nuns or priests.

Adrienne Iapalucci 7:58 Right. Well, I was in elementary school. It was, like, some teachers and then there was some nuns and some priests.

Joe Rogan 8:04 Mm-hmm.

Adrienne Iapalucci 8:04 So it was a mix.

Joe Rogan 8:05 Yeah. So my sister got lucky, and she loved her teacher. My teacher, she taught me everything I needed to know. I was like, "You-"

Adrienne Iapalucci 8:12 About religion?

Joe Rogan 8:13 I was like, "There's no way." What it, not about the r- just a possibility that someone like that exists.

Adrienne Iapalucci 8:18 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 8:18 'Cause everyone was nice to me. I was five, six years old, whatever I was.

Adrienne Iapalucci 8:23 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 8:23 My parents were nice to me. My grandparents were nice to me. Everyone was nice to me.

Adrienne Iapalucci 8:27 Except the lady.

Joe Rogan 8:27 And then all of a sudden, I'm in this room with this lady who is representing God, and she's fucking evil. She's mean, she wants you to cry. She would, like, try to get kids to cry.

Adrienne Iapalucci 8:40 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 8:41 It was weird, 'cause it was, like, a- a really good thing. It was, like, a really good thing. Because when I was, like, five years old, my parents were breaking up, and I was like... You know, when you're young and you're insecure, you're like, "Oh, my God," like, there's no, uh, stability in the world. And- and I started thinking about God. And I started, like, really getting into God as, like, a five-year-old.

Adrienne Iapalucci 9:00 That's crazy.

Joe Rogan 9:01 It was r- yeah, it was like I was looking for someone to-

Adrienne Iapalucci 9:04 But it makes sense.

Joe Rogan 9:05 Yeah, you're looking for someone to look after you, someone who makes sense of this.

Adrienne Iapalucci 9:10 Sure.

Joe Rogan 9:10 'Cause if, like, the parents in your life, if the chaos in your life, you're like, "There's gotta be something. Maybe it's God." And then going to that church and going to that- that Catholic school, I was like, "Okay, maybe, maybe it's God, but these people, this lady is not doing the work of God." Like, there's no way God knows about this. (laughs)

Adrienne Iapalucci 9:28 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 9:28 There's no way God's cool with this.

Adrienne Iapalucci 9:30 He's letting it slide?

Joe Rogan 9:30 There's no way God's like... He's ultimately... Unless it's to be so fucking mean that you make people think for themselves.

Adrienne Iapalucci 9:37 Yeah. We had a priest, maybe Father Joe, I don't know, he came when we were about 7th grade. And people were talking about, like, if their dogs die and they go to heaven, and he was like, "They don't," and we went ballistic.

Joe Rogan 9:49 Oh, my God.

Adrienne Iapalucci 9:50 (laughs) Imagine telling, like, a 7th grader your dog dies and doesn't go to heaven?

Joe Rogan 9:53 Oh, my God.

Adrienne Iapalucci 9:54 We were just, like, so angry and mad, like, he had to leave the room.

Joe Rogan 9:58 First of all, bitch, how do you know?

Adrienne Iapalucci 10:00 They don't know anything.

Joe Rogan 10:01 How do you know?

Adrienne Iapalucci 10:01 But I'm just saying, it's like just be like, "Yeah, of course."

Joe Rogan 10:03 Yeah.

Adrienne Iapalucci 10:05 It's like-

Joe Rogan 10:05 Yeah, why wouldn't you say that?

Adrienne Iapalucci 10:06 No, he, he never even was like, "Well, maybe." He was like, "No, they do not go to heaven."

Joe Rogan 10:11 Because then you'd be trapped with this "animals have souls too" thing, and then you can never eat meat again.

Adrienne Iapalucci 10:17 Right, so it's like just say that-

Joe Rogan 10:18 'Cause cows go to heaven.

Adrienne Iapalucci 10:18 Yeah, they all go to heaven, just every... Or whatever.

Joe Rogan 10:21 Imagine if you had to go to heaven and confront every chicken you ever ate.

Adrienne Iapalucci 10:26 I mean, I would just probably ignore them.

Joe Rogan 10:28 (laughs)

Adrienne Iapalucci 10:29 Like you do on, like trolls on the internet, you're just like, "All right, I get it, you're mad."

Joe Rogan 10:33 Imagine then-

Adrienne Iapalucci 10:33 "I see something that pissed you off."

Joe Rogan 10:34 ... in the next dimension, if reality was flopped, and everything that you ate gets to eat you.

Adrienne Iapalucci 10:41 I mean, I think you would just be like, "This is my fate. Like, what am I gonna do?"

Joe Rogan 10:45 It would suck.

Adrienne Iapalucci 10:46 It would, but you'd be dead so quick.

Joe Rogan 10:48 It really is crazy if you think about, like, your whole life, from the time you were a baby till now. How many animals have you eaten?

Adrienne Iapalucci 10:55 Probably a lot.

Joe Rogan 10:56 (laughs)

Adrienne Iapalucci 10:57 And the thing is, I, like, I don't feel bad eating the ugly animals. Like, chickens are not particularly cute, but, like, cows are so cute.

Joe Rogan 11:04 They can be very cute.

Adrienne Iapalucci 11:05 So are pigs.

Joe Rogan 11:06 Yeah. Pigs can be really cute.

Adrienne Iapalucci 11:10 So that's the one thing where you're like, "Oh, I love all these videos on Instagram, but I'm still gonna eat a steak."

Joe Rogan 11:14 Isn't it interesting that wild pigs aren't cute at all?

Adrienne Iapalucci 11:17 No.

Joe Rogan 11:18 They're not even a little cute. They're ferocious looking.

Adrienne Iapalucci 11:22 Yeah, so those are the ones that you wanna eat, the ugly ones.

Joe Rogan 11:25 Yeah, my agent said the same thing to me.

Adrienne Iapalucci 11:27 To eat the ugly ones?

Joe Rogan 11:28 Yeah, she was just like, "I don't ma- mind if you hunt, but you should hunt pigs, 'cause they're ugly." (laughs)

Adrienne Iapalucci 11:33 Not the babies, the babies are so cute.

Joe Rogan 11:35 They are, but, and ya- yeah, even wild pig babies are cute. Isn't that interesting?

Adrienne Iapalucci 11:40 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 11:40 Like, what's the, like, evolution? It's not like eagles care if something's cute. What, what-

Adrienne Iapalucci 11:46 No.

Joe Rogan 11:46 It's like a thinking animal that discerns cuteness and doesn't wanna harm cute things.

Adrienne Iapalucci 11:50 Sure, like lions don't care about-

Joe Rogan 11:53 Yeah.

Adrienne Iapalucci 11:53 ... hunting something.

Joe Rogan 11:54 But what do you... Is that for us? It must be for us.

Adrienne Iapalucci 11:57 It's just for us.

Joe Rogan 11:57 'Cause it's the only thing it works on.

Adrienne Iapalucci 11:59 Yeah, I think it's just for us.

Joe Rogan 12:01 Like, think about a, like, a little wolf puppy. They're so adorable.

Adrienne Iapalucci 12:04 So cute.

Joe Rogan 12:05 So adorable.... and it's adorable to us.

Adrienne Iapalucci 12:08 Oh, yeah. Those things are gross.

Joe Rogan 12:10 Disgusting. So that it's adorable to us, little wolf puppy.

Adrienne Iapalucci 12:13 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 12:14 So that we don't kill it, so he can grow up to be able to kill us.

Adrienne Iapalucci 12:18 Yeah, I don't-

Joe Rogan 12:18 It's a trick.

Adrienne Iapalucci 12:19 I think that we just, like, are reasoning in thinking about it, but, like, there's people that would probably kill it still.

Joe Rogan 12:24 Oh, yeah. For sure. It... But it's a trick, but it's an interesting one 'cause it really... I think it only works on us. I don't think chimps give a fuck about cuteness.

Adrienne Iapalucci 12:33 No, but they do love their, like, offspring, and they do protect them.

Joe Rogan 12:38 Sure, but all animals do. All animals do.

Adrienne Iapalucci 12:38 Yeah. But it's not 'cause they're cute.

Joe Rogan 12:39 Right. But for us, when we see other things, uh, babies-

Adrienne Iapalucci 12:43 Yes.

Joe Rogan 12:43 ... we think they're cute.

Adrienne Iapalucci 12:44 Yes.

Joe Rogan 12:45 Like, we go, "Oh my God." We wanna protect it.

Adrienne Iapalucci 12:48 Otters are really cute.

Joe Rogan 12:49 Yeah. Puppies. Puppies are the most adorable thing of all time.

Adrienne Iapalucci 12:52 They are.

Joe Rogan 12:52 Look at those little guys.

Adrienne Iapalucci 12:54 They are cute.

Joe Rogan 12:55 Hey. Hey, little wolf puppies.

Adrienne Iapalucci 12:56 But I also realize that they would kill me.

Joe Rogan 12:58 They're so different than dogs. It's so interesting. They're so different than dogs. And, and they look kind of like dogs until you get them around dogs.

Adrienne Iapalucci 13:08 Yeah. I mean, they're cute, but they're not as cute as, like, a husky.

Joe Rogan 13:14 I was at a dog park once when a guy brought in a wolf.

Adrienne Iapalucci 13:17 Are they-

Joe Rogan 13:17 And-

Adrienne Iapalucci 13:18 ... legal?

Joe Rogan 13:18 Yeah, you can have a wolf. You can have, like, a seven-

Adrienne Iapalucci 13:20 In a dog park?

Joe Rogan 13:21 Yeah. You can have, like, a seven-eighth timber wolf as a pet. Yeah. I had a friend who had a couple of 'em, and one of 'em even got out and killed a bunch of sheep. Like, they're wolves, like real wolves.

Adrienne Iapalucci 13:33 Yeah, I don't think you should have them as pets.

Joe Rogan 13:35 So I'm at the dog park, and this fucking dude comes in with a wolf. And it was the wildest thing, where every dog was like, "What the fuck? Do you know what that is?"

Adrienne Iapalucci 13:46 Did he-

Joe Rogan 13:46 Every dog was like, "Oh, Jesus Christ." They all, like, slunk down and moved away from it. It was like he was walking through a tide. Like, the everything, like, the-

Adrienne Iapalucci 13:56 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 13:56 It pulled back-

Adrienne Iapalucci 13:58 That's like their Jesus.

Joe Rogan 13:58 ... in his presence. Well, it's... That's their monster.

Adrienne Iapalucci 14:01 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 14:01 'Cause wolves eat dogs.

Adrienne Iapalucci 14:02 Was your dog there?

Joe Rogan 14:03 Yes.

Adrienne Iapalucci 14:04 Did you take your dog out?

Joe Rogan 14:05 Oh, it got the fuck, right the fuck outta there.

Adrienne Iapalucci 14:07 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 14:08 Yeah.

Adrienne Iapalucci 14:08 So I live in the Bronx, and there's always, like, people who have pit bulls and, you know, dogs-

Joe Rogan 14:12 Yeah.

Adrienne Iapalucci 14:12 And, like, some of them are really nice, and some of them, they just walk off the leash. So this one day, I had a boxer, and this pit bull got loose. I was with my ex-boyfriend at the time. He jumped on a car, and I just picked my dog up. I was ready to get-

Joe Rogan 14:24 Oh, Jesus Christ.

Adrienne Iapalucci 14:25 I was just getting ready to get...

Joe Rogan 14:26 He jumped on the car to get away from the dog?

Adrienne Iapalucci 14:28 Yes.

Joe Rogan 14:29 And left it, left your puppy?

Adrienne Iapalucci 14:30 Yes, but I think that's also maybe culturally, like, 'cause he was black, and I think, like, that's a whole thing, where he's just not raised the same with dogs and stuff. I don't know. He just jumped on the car, and I just held my dog. And I was like, "I'm ready to get attacked."

Joe Rogan 14:41 Oh my God.

Adrienne Iapalucci 14:42 The dog did nothing, but then he showed me how I c- 'cause I was like, "I'm scared to walk my dog now." So he showed me how I could, like, kill a dog, and I would walk around with a knife. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 14:51 Oh my God. Did you see that some- someone did that to someone-

Narrator 14:54 Welcome back.

Joe Rogan 14:56 ... in, in Manhattan.

Adrienne Iapalucci 14:58 What?

Joe Rogan 14:58 In Central Park. Someone stabbed... There... Uh, two dogs got in a fight, and the guy stabbed someone else's dog.

Adrienne Iapalucci 15:04 I mean, was he killing the dog?

Joe Rogan 15:07 I don't know. I think his dog bit the other dog, was what the woman, who's... I don't... I don't, I don't know the details. I shou- I probably shouldn't say it. So it's new d- details. In shocking deadly stabbing of dog in Central Park. And the, the woman, uh, g- like, filmed the guy running away, and she goes, "You killed my dog, you piece of shit." Baffling incident occurred in the area around 106th Street and Fifth Avenue, a spot popular with dog walkers. NBC New York spoke to a man who said that he and his wife were walking their 13-year-old German shepherd-pit bull mix, named Ellie, and their other dog, Sadie, on leashes in the area around 8:30 PM. A man, the man who only wished to be identified as Brian, said they walked by a man with three pit bulls, at least two of which were unleashed.

Adrienne Iapalucci 15:52 Fuck that guy. I hate seeing dogs off the leash.

Joe Rogan 15:54 Yeah. "One of his dogs tried to bite my little dog, and he tried to tell me that's, that it's okay, and I tried to talk sense into him," Brian told News 4. He and the man started to argue as his dogs attacked Ellie, Ellie. Uh, "I kicked one of the dogs off my dog at one point," Brian said, "but then he took out a knife, and started carving, and my dog growled. He stuck him, and I was helpless at that time." Brian said he took a photo of the man as he walked away below. The couple then took their dog to the veterinarian, where Ellie had to be put down. Wow, so that guy with those dogs just stabbed someone's dog-

Adrienne Iapalucci 16:33 That guy-

Joe Rogan 16:34 ... 'cause-

Adrienne Iapalucci 16:34 Like-

Joe Rogan 16:34 ... his dog bit the dog.

Adrienne Iapalucci 16:35 Okay. That guy would be fucking dead. That's why I can't have a gun-

Joe Rogan 16:40 (sighs)

Adrienne Iapalucci 16:40 ... 'cause there's so many people I would kill.

Joe Rogan 16:42 I don't know if those are pit bulls. They said those were pit bulls.

Adrienne Iapalucci 16:45 They look like, uh-

Narrator 16:46 French bulldogs. They're small-

Joe Rogan 16:47 Yeah.

Narrator 16:47 ... but they couldn't, they couldn't-

Adrienne Iapalucci 16:48 No, I think they're American bulldogs. My mom has them.

Joe Rogan 16:50 No, Ame- American bulldogs are actually larger than pit bulls. American bulldogs are big.

Adrienne Iapalucci 16:54 Those dogs are like this, though. Those.

Joe Rogan 16:56 Um, those look more like... They look... Th- they do make these little bullies. You ever seen those bullies?

Adrienne Iapalucci 17:00 That's what my mom's dog is.

Joe Rogan 17:01 Like miniature bullies. Yeah.

Adrienne Iapalucci 17:03 It's, like, low to the ground, but, like, that-

Joe Rogan 17:04 Yeah.

Adrienne Iapalucci 17:05 ... it's jacked.

Joe Rogan 17:05 I think those aren't, like... The really, the really scary pit bulls, believe it or not, are the not the ones that look like the scary pit bulls. I mean, those are scary too, but the really scary ones are the smaller ones 'cause those are the ones they really raised for dog fighting.

Adrienne Iapalucci 17:18 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 17:19 Brian Callan got one of those ones. He had one as a pet, and it was a real problem. And it looked like a regular dog. It looked like a regular dog. Like, they don't have big giant heads, and it only weighed, like, 35 pounds.

Narrator 17:29 A pocket bully.

Joe Rogan 17:30 That little fucker will...

Adrienne Iapalucci 17:30 That's what my mom has.

Joe Rogan 17:31 That's it. So those, those little things, uh, they're weird fucking breeding choices that people have made to make these little tiny pit bulls, but I don't think those are aggressive. But I don't-

Adrienne Iapalucci 17:43 My mom's dog is not aggressive, but she's, like, scared of everything 'cause another dog got loose and attacked her, so she's-

Joe Rogan 17:49 Oh.

Adrienne Iapalucci 17:49 ... like, scared now of everything.

Joe Rogan 17:50 God. Yeah, that's gotta be traumatic to dogs.

Adrienne Iapalucci 17:52 But, like, if I lived... If... That would drive me nuts if I was that guy, and he k-... I would do, I would do terrible things to his dogs.

Joe Rogan 17:58 It's just n-... It's to him. Fuck. The, the dogs are just being dogs.

Adrienne Iapalucci 18:02 I know, but, like, put them on a leash.

Joe Rogan 18:03 Yeah, he-

Adrienne Iapalucci 18:03 That's the problem.

Joe Rogan 18:04 But it's not, like... Yeah. I know what you're saying.

Adrienne Iapalucci 18:06 But, yeah. Oh, yeah. If you could kill him, then do it.

Joe Rogan 18:10 (sighs) That's the thing about taking dogs in public, like you never know. Like I got ... There's this, uh, guy that, uh, I used to run these trails with and, uh, I think he worked for this lady, 'cause I don't think he really had good control of the dogs. And oddly enough, one of the dogs was a golden lab and he was really aggressive and he went after my dog and bit my dog and I had to like kick the dog off him and it was like ... It was awful, but I'm like, "A golden lab just, just snapped at the dog." I'm like ... And the guy couldn't control him. I'm like-

Narrator 18:39 I thought you were talking about this video I saw that's going around. It's happening in London.

Joe Rogan 18:40 What is this one? Oh, this was horrible.

Narrator 18:43 Where a guy's attacking a woman.

Joe Rogan 18:43 Yeah, that was horrible. Yeah, the guy didn't have control of his dogs and they were attacking this woman.

Adrienne Iapalucci 18:48 That's why your dogs need to be on a leash.

Joe Rogan 18:51 I mean that's just crazy.

Adrienne Iapalucci 18:52 You're not in the mountains. There's a guy that used to have three German shepherds, he'd walk them all off the leash in the Bronx.

Joe Rogan 18:56 Right, but why is that dog attacking people? Why is that dog just attacking a lady for no reason? Like what, what is going on with those-

Adrienne Iapalucci 19:01 Maybe they're trained.

Joe Rogan 19:02 Yeah. What is going on with that?

Adrienne Iapalucci 19:03 Or if you rescue them and you don't know where they're from.

Joe Rogan 19:05 (sighs) Goddammit, that's scary.

Adrienne Iapalucci 19:08 That's very scary.

Joe Rogan 19:09 That's terrifying. Shit. Oof. Such a fucked up way to go. And pe-

Adrienne Iapalucci 19:14 Also, that's so weird that that guy came into the park with a wolf. It's like what are you doing?

Joe Rogan 19:18 It was a long time ago. Um, you know, it was, uh ... It was real weird. But there ... People have those things. They have those, uh, w- ha- wolf breeds, wolf dogs.

Adrienne Iapalucci 19:31 I know.

Joe Rogan 19:32 This one guy I h- I knew had three of 'em and you would go to his house, if you made noise like yooh, they would all whoo.

Adrienne Iapalucci 19:39 Oh, yeah. They howl.

Joe Rogan 19:39 They would all just howl in. It's w- They're not dogs. It's so interesting. They like ... There's no like telling them what to do, sit, lay down. Fuck you.

Adrienne Iapalucci 19:48 Those dogs should be out in the wild.

Joe Rogan 19:50 Yeah. And this guy had him in the yard.

Adrienne Iapalucci 19:52 It's like d-

Joe Rogan 19:53 It's kind of crazy.

Adrienne Iapalucci 19:54 That's not where they should be.

Joe Rogan 19:55 No.

Adrienne Iapalucci 19:55 These dogs are wild. They should be out in, you know?

Joe Rogan 19:57 It's also kind of crazy to fix them. You're just cutting off their testosterone supplies. Like oh, just get tired all-

Adrienne Iapalucci 20:05 I bet they're still pretty aggressive.

Joe Rogan 20:06 They're not the same. They're definitely not the same. I mean, I get it that you don't want them to have puppies, but you should just be in control of your dog.

Adrienne Iapalucci 20:14 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 20:14 But they're, they're, they're ... It's just such a weird animal. Wolves, you know, 'cause we killed them off and now we're like let's bring 'em back.

Adrienne Iapalucci 20:23 And have them in the park with other dogs that are ... Have no fighting chance against it if it goes nuts.

Joe Rogan 20:28 Well, that case, that guy, you know, had it supposedly as a pet. I just think people get pets sometimes. It's like you don't have to really know what you're doing to get like-

Adrienne Iapalucci 20:37 Sure.

Joe Rogan 20:38 ... a German shepherd. You can get a police dog German shepherd, like a really aggressive, very smart, thinking, like almost like a predator of people.

Adrienne Iapalucci 20:48 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 20:48 You know? And you could just get it. Anybody could get it.

Adrienne Iapalucci 20:51 I mean somebody ... I think in Manhattan had like an alligator.

Joe Rogan 20:54 Oh, yeah.

Adrienne Iapalucci 20:54 Like you get these like little-

Joe Rogan 20:55 All the time.

Adrienne Iapalucci 20:56 ... animals where they're cute and then it like gets to be humongous and you're like this is a real problem.

Joe Rogan 21:00 I think a dude in the Bronx had a tiger.

Adrienne Iapalucci 21:02 Sure. I can see that happening.

Joe Rogan 21:03 (laughs) In his fucking house. This guy had a tiger at his house. Yeah, people are nuts.

Adrienne Iapalucci 21:09 I mean ... Imagine like telling a girl at a club, "You have a baby tiger." Like even if you don't want to fuck this guy you're like, "I do want to see this baby tiger."

Joe Rogan 21:16 (laughs) Where was this? This is his alligator found in New York City lake? Oh my god.

Narrator 21:21 Prospect Park.

Adrienne Iapalucci 21:22 In Brooklyn.

Joe Rogan 21:23 So what do you think happened there? Do you think that was like a pet?

Adrienne Iapalucci 21:26 It was probably a pet and it got too big and somebody was like, "I don't know what to do with this," and he put it in this park, in the water.

Joe Rogan 21:31 That's the story of Florida. Florida's an amazing story. Florida's just overrun with pythons. There's a half a million pythons in the Everglades. They say that 99% of all of the mammals are gone.

Adrienne Iapalucci 21:47 That's wild.

Joe Rogan 21:47 Of everything, raccoons, deer, everything, rabbits. They're all gone. Foxes, pumas, everything, everything.

Adrienne Iapalucci 21:54 Maybe that's what you need to be hunting then.

Joe Rogan 21:56 Yeah. Well, they are doing that. What's crazy is in California, python skin's illegal.

Adrienne Iapalucci 22:01 Is it?

Joe Rogan 22:01 So you can't ... (laughs) You can't. It's banned. You can't get python in California. Meanwhile, on the other side of the country, they're overrun with pythons. Like they literally have wiped out all of the native wildlife. They're eating alligators now.

Adrienne Iapalucci 22:15 That's crazy.

Joe Rogan 22:17 Yeah. (laughs)

Adrienne Iapalucci 22:19 Yeah. There we go.

Joe Rogan 22:19 Four to 25 pound cu- tiger living in Harlem apartment.

Adrienne Iapalucci 22:21 Oh my god!

Joe Rogan 22:22 Oh my god! (laughs)

Adrienne Iapalucci 22:24 Yeah, that's part of the story.

Joe Rogan 22:25 (laughs)

Adrienne Iapalucci 22:25 I mean imagine showing up to that and you're like, "I'm out of here."

Joe Rogan 22:28 Oh my god.

Adrienne Iapalucci 22:29 "I'm not getting paid enough for this."

Joe Rogan 22:31 I think they're the most beautiful animals.

Adrienne Iapalucci 22:33 They're beautiful, but like what are you doing in a tiny studio apartment with a tiger?

Joe Rogan 22:38 No, it's insane. It's an insane person. It's like some dude who met some dude who knows a guy who can get you a tiger.

Adrienne Iapalucci 22:43 Of course.

Joe Rogan 22:44 Do you know there's more tigers in Texas in private collections than there are in all of the wild of the world?

Adrienne Iapalucci 22:52 Are they just like in their private backyards and stuff?

Joe Rogan 22:55 Tiger world.

Adrienne Iapalucci 22:57 I mean when they attack people-

Joe Rogan 22:58 (laughs)

Adrienne Iapalucci 22:58 ... I'm like, "Yeah, I get it." Why ... You, you're caging this animal that should be in the wild.

Joe Rogan 23:02 Yeah. Texas is very strange when it comes to wildlife. You can kind of own anything.

Adrienne Iapalucci 23:08 Texas ... This is like a-

Joe Rogan 23:09 Get you, get you a zebra.

Adrienne Iapalucci 23:10 ... just fucking Nazi or anything goes.

Joe Rogan 23:12 Get you a zebra, Adrienne.

Adrienne Iapalucci 23:14 I want a baby zebra, not, not when it gets big.

Joe Rogan 23:16 Yeah. (laughs)

Adrienne Iapalucci 23:16 Once it gets big, I'm gonna put it in that lake with that alligator. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 23:20 (laughs)

Adrienne Iapalucci 23:20 Like here, fend for yourself.

Joe Rogan 23:22 Yeah, there's, it's apparently like a couple thousand more tigers in Texas than there are in the wild.

Adrienne Iapalucci 23:28 Did you ever watch Tiger King?

Joe Rogan 23:29 Oh, yeah.

Narrator 23:30 That's a good one.

Adrienne Iapalucci 23:30 I mean just like-

Joe Rogan 23:31 Love it.

Adrienne Iapalucci 23:31 ... such trash. It's so great.

Joe Rogan 23:33 I was s- not so secretly hoping that Trump would pardon him. (laughs)

Adrienne Iapalucci 23:37 Yeah. Do you ... Like this guy has like probably a third level education.

Joe Rogan 23:41 Well-

Adrienne Iapalucci 23:41 He's just trying to make money.

Joe Rogan 23:43 He talked those straight guys into fucking him, so respect.

Adrienne Iapalucci 23:46 Yeah, but I feel like rich people can get away with that. It's like why women-

Joe Rogan 23:50 Right.

Adrienne Iapalucci 23:50 ... hot women fuck ugly dudes that are rich. You're like, "Well hopefully he'll buy me something."

Joe Rogan 23:55 You think that works with guys?

Adrienne Iapalucci 23:55 Yes. Absolutely.

Joe Rogan 23:56 Hmm. I guess with some guys. But everything ... It's like what works on everybody, you know? 'Cause like some things don't work on some people, but they work on other people.

Adrienne Iapalucci 24:07 I think money always works on everyone.

Joe Rogan 24:10 Sure, but like some people are really dumb. Like some people-

Adrienne Iapalucci 24:13 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 24:13 ... you can get them with a pretty simple cult.

Adrienne Iapalucci 24:16 Oh, yeah.

Joe Rogan 24:17 Not even that good, you know.

Adrienne Iapalucci 24:18 That you just post on Craigslist that you're starting a new religion.

Joe Rogan 24:21 Yeah, start a new religion.

Adrienne Iapalucci 24:21 I've thought about doing it and seeing who would show up.

Joe Rogan 24:23 People would show up.

Adrienne Iapalucci 24:24 (laughs) I know, it'd be crazy.

Joe Rogan 24:25 Loyalists. They would be, "I was the first. I was with Adrienne when she became awoken."

Adrienne Iapalucci 24:29 In the beginning.

Joe Rogan 24:31 (laughs)

Adrienne Iapalucci 24:31 That'd be so crazy.

Joe Rogan 24:33 You could start a cult.

Adrienne Iapalucci 24:34 I would-

Joe Rogan 24:34 100%, you could start a cult.

Adrienne Iapalucci 24:36 I would do that and then just start a landscaping business, and that would be what I'd tell them my religion is.

Joe Rogan 24:40 Mm.

Adrienne Iapalucci 24:41 Just cleaning people's yards and stuff.

Joe Rogan 24:43 Oh, my God. It's such a weird thing, cults, 'cause there's... It, uh, seems to be, like, a natural pattern of behavior that people have, where they're willing to believe fucking total nonsense as long as everybody in the group believes total nonsense.

Adrienne Iapalucci 25:01 Sure. And it's also wanting to, like, belong to something.

Joe Rogan 25:03 Yep. Yeah.

Adrienne Iapalucci 25:04 You know? Especially if you feel like an outcast.

Joe Rogan 25:06 Yeah. And there's some that are good at it. Like, Scientology's good at it.

Adrienne Iapalucci 25:11 I think at the root of every cult, there is a guy that wants to fuck everyone.

Joe Rogan 25:15 (laughs)

Adrienne Iapalucci 25:15 So, like, that's-

Joe Rogan 25:16 Generally.

Adrienne Iapalucci 25:17 Generally. Most of those cults start out where, like, "You have to fuck me, and that's how you get, like, to this higher level," or...

Joe Rogan 25:23 Or the Heaven's Gate guy. "You have to cut your balls off." Remember that guy?

Adrienne Iapalucci 25:27 I do, but I don't remember cutting their balls off.

Joe Rogan 25:28 Everybody had to castrate themselves.

Adrienne Iapalucci 25:30 Was he castrated also?

Joe Rogan 25:31 I think he was. He might've done it to himself and got people to do it. It was, um, it was a weird one. They all wore the same Nikes-

Adrienne Iapalucci 25:41 Yes, okay.

Joe Rogan 25:41 ... and they all killed themselves 'cause, like, they thought that the spaceship was coming to take them there to kill themselves. (laughs)

Adrienne Iapalucci 25:45 What's crazy is I watched a documentary and I was bored by it.

Joe Rogan 25:48 It's that dude. Well, it, it was... It's weird, right? Because it's like it's so dumb, you're like, "Who's buying into this?" But even something that dumb, there's someone out there-

Adrienne Iapalucci 25:59 The black Nikes. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 25:59 ... that's like, "Ooh, fucking Nikes." Ugh. It's a weird one. Click on that, how it really happened. It's such a strange story, 'cause, like, I don't know what the guy's origin was. Like, how he got all these people. It's not playing?

Adrienne Iapalucci 26:20 I just remember watching it and being very bored by it. I b- I was bored by this guy that started a cult and got everyone to kill themselves. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 26:26 I loved Wild, Wild Country. Did you see that one?

Adrienne Iapalucci 26:28 Yes. Were the... Is that the one where they're going through a drive-through?

Joe Rogan 26:32 That's the one where the Indian guru, um, he, uh, set up shop in this town in Oregon. They took over the whole town.

Adrienne Iapalucci 26:39 Oh, yes.

Joe Rogan 26:40 Yeah. And they started busting in homeless people so they could vote out everybody, so the homeless people would now be citizens.

Adrienne Iapalucci 26:45 That's a good angle.

Joe Rogan 26:46 Oh, it was amazing. But then, those hom- It was really sad 'cause those homeless people had a sense of purpose for the first time in their life, and some of 'em were like, "I'm fucking all in. These are my people." You know? And they were fucking doing hard work, and they were really like-

Adrienne Iapalucci 26:59 Of course.

Joe Rogan 26:59 They felt... And then at the end, after they voted, they're, "Get the fuck out of here." UFO cults.

Guest 27:05 UFO cult, apparently.

Joe Rogan 27:06 Hmm. Well, let me hear 'em talk.

Narrator 27:07 I'm gonna go when I said-

Joe Rogan 27:08 (laughs)

Narrator 27:09 ... that the big surprise could come, that spacecrafts could come in by the thousands, maybe come in shifts. In March 1996-

Joe Rogan 27:20 (laughs)

Adrienne Iapalucci 27:20 That music, I'm out. (laughs) It's so creepy.

Joe Rogan 27:23 Well, that's editorialized, right? That's someone else, like, putting stuff there.

Adrienne Iapalucci 27:26 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 27:26 But this is, uh, some part of some History Channel thing, I think.

Guest 27:30 Did you hear about the Sanctum Cult stuff today with Hunter Biden?

Joe Rogan 27:33 What is that?

Guest 27:34 Uh, so this-

Adrienne Iapalucci 27:35 I'm obsessed with Hunter Biden.

Guest 27:36 The story, yeah, the story I saw was that the leader of this LA sex club that cost $75,000 a year was kicked out of the club because he shared that Hunter Biden was once a member, and all he shared was, like, an, a social media post that said, "I kicked him out 'cause he was weird," but then they kicked him out of the club 'cause, like, "You're not allowed to talk about the club." It's like Fight Club.

Joe Rogan 27:55 Oh, Fight Club. Mm.

Guest 27:57 And-

Joe Rogan 27:58 I fucked up. I had a chance to get Hunter Biden on, on the podcast in the very beginning.

Adrienne Iapalucci 28:03 I think you can.

Joe Rogan 28:03 I can't. We've been trying.

Adrienne Iapalucci 28:03 Wait for him to get back on crack.

Joe Rogan 28:06 I can get him back on crack.

Adrienne Iapalucci 28:07 Do it. That's when you get him back.

Joe Rogan 28:08 Yeah, I'll try it for the first time. (laughs)

Adrienne Iapalucci 28:10 Well, I hit my friend did crack, and he's-

Joe Rogan 28:13 Smells Salty.

Adrienne Iapalucci 28:13 ... like, "It's amazing."

Joe Rogan 28:14 (coughs) Well, it's cocaine. It's freebasing cocaine. Dr. Carl Hart, um, who's a, is a brilliant guy who's, uh, a legitimate academic but also is a drug user.

Adrienne Iapalucci 28:25 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 28:25 And he's like, "There's no difference. It's, it's... Pharmacologically, it's the same drug." You're, you're freebasing.

Adrienne Iapalucci 28:31 I could see that.

Joe Rogan 28:31 Yeah. And it's like the, the real thing that's different is the policy, 'cause the pol- It's the most racist policy in the history of the drug war.

Adrienne Iapalucci 28:38 Oh, absolutely.

Joe Rogan 28:38 They're like, "If you get busted with cocaine, it's one, one thing."

Adrienne Iapalucci 28:42 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 28:42 But if, if you get busted with crack, you get a crazy sentence.

Adrienne Iapalucci 28:46 Yes.

Joe Rogan 28:47 Like, way, way, way more.

Adrienne Iapalucci 28:48 It's just racist.

Joe Rogan 28:49 Well, it's not just racist. It's like when you really go into, like, the origins of... Do you, uh, were you aware of the Freeway Rick Ross story?

Adrienne Iapalucci 28:57 No.

Joe Rogan 28:58 Rick Ross, not the rapper, but the real Rick Ross-

Adrienne Iapalucci 29:01 Right.

Joe Rogan 29:01 ... was a drug dealer in South Central LA.

Adrienne Iapalucci 29:03 Okay.

Joe Rogan 29:04 And he couldn't even read, and he was making millions and millions of dollars. He was, like, a star tennis player and figured out how to make money doing it. Just a smart, smooth dude who knew how to move cocaine, but he didn't know he was moving it for the CIA.

Adrienne Iapalucci 29:20 Oh.

Joe Rogan 29:21 He didn't know he was moving it to fund the Contras versus the Sandinistas in Nicaragua.

Adrienne Iapalucci 29:26 Interesting.

Joe Rogan 29:26 So this is the whole Oliver North thing. So, they lock him up. He learns how to read in jail and becomes a lawyer, and then realizes they got him on, they got him on, you know, three strikes. But it can't be three strikes in one crime. It has to be three different crimes, three different arrests.

Adrienne Iapalucci 29:49 Right.

Joe Rogan 29:49 So he got out.

Adrienne Iapalucci 29:52 That's crazy.

Joe Rogan 29:52 Crazy.

Adrienne Iapalucci 29:53 But, like, look what they did for him.

Joe Rogan 29:55 But that guy was-

Adrienne Iapalucci 29:55 He learned to read.

Joe Rogan 29:56 Right.

Adrienne Iapalucci 29:56 He became a lawyer.

Joe Rogan 29:58 Yeah. (laughs)

Adrienne Iapalucci 29:58 Do you know what I mean? Like, what a fucking great story that is.

Joe Rogan 30:03 He's an awesome guy, too. And that... But that's where crack was coming from.

Adrienne Iapalucci 30:09 It's crazy.

Joe Rogan 30:09 I mean, it was our own fucking government.

Adrienne Iapalucci 30:11 Oh, yeah.

Joe Rogan 30:12 It was, it was rogue p- I should be real clear about this. Probably rogue outlaw entities in our own government. The, the, uh, the... It's not like our government approves that.

Adrienne Iapalucci 30:22 Didn't Reagan, like, put crack into the community pretty much?

Joe Rogan 30:25 Reagan did it himself.

Adrienne Iapalucci 30:26 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 30:26 He went in the middle of the night like Santa Claus.

Adrienne Iapalucci 30:28 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 30:28 (laughs) He's like, "A little, a little crack for everybody." Well, you know, that, the whole fucking, the, the drug war is just bananas when you're s- actually still selling drugs. Like, they call it the ... It's, it's a war on drug competition is all it is. It's not a drug war. The drugs are making billions of dollars. Like, okay-

Adrienne Iapalucci 30:46 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 30:46 ... no more money for drugs. Drugs are now illegal to sell. Like, what are you talking about? This-

Adrienne Iapalucci 30:50 No way.

Joe Rogan 30:51 ... look at the amount of money that people make on just drugs that everyone agrees that ... Listen, I don't take Adderall, but I 100% support your right to take Adderall.

Adrienne Iapalucci 31:01 Sure.

Joe Rogan 31:02 I, I hear it's awesome. And people who take it, they can't shut the fuck up about it.

Adrienne Iapalucci 31:06 Yeah, it's like, uh, me and my friend used to take Stacker too.

Joe Rogan 31:09 Yeah.

Adrienne Iapalucci 31:09 And I think it's the same thing. We would, like, do everything in the office. Everyone would love when we took it.

Joe Rogan 31:13 But guess what, kids? That's a drug.

Adrienne Iapalucci 31:16 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 31:17 That's a drug.

Adrienne Iapalucci 31:17 Absolutely.

Joe Rogan 31:18 I mean, just the fact that you're getting it from your doctor.

Adrienne Iapalucci 31:21 I mean, doctors prescribe so much stuff.

Joe Rogan 31:22 Yeah, tell the doctor to sell coke. (laughs)

Adrienne Iapalucci 31:24 Why not?

Joe Rogan 31:26 If you-

Adrienne Iapalucci 31:27 I tried to get a prescription for Xanax, and my doctor looked at me where he was just like, "I'm not giving it to you." And I was like, "Are you serious?" (laughs)

Joe Rogan 31:33 Oh my God, really?

Adrienne Iapalucci 31:34 Yeah, 'cause I wanted to fly. He's like, "I'm not doing it." He's like, "They're really cracking down right now, so you can't have any."

Joe Rogan 31:39 Well, the thing about benzodiazepine is it's very difficult to kick, very difficult. Physiologically.

Adrienne Iapalucci 31:47 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 31:47 It's one of the only drugs, like alcohol, that'll kill you if you just go cold turkey sometimes.

Adrienne Iapalucci 31:52 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 31:52 Some people just get wrecked by that stuff. Jordan Peterson got wrecked, like physically wrecked for, like, over a year. It took him so long just to build his health back up.

Adrienne Iapalucci 32:03 Well, my friend that was doing crack was also doing Xanax.

Joe Rogan 32:07 Oh.

Adrienne Iapalucci 32:07 So, and he was like ... His doctor just made him go cr- I guess cold turkey, but he had been doing-

Joe Rogan 32:12 (gasps)

Adrienne Iapalucci 32:13 ... so much that when he stopped, he went ballistic.

Joe Rogan 32:15 Oh my God.

Adrienne Iapalucci 32:16 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 32:17 That's supposed to be horrible. It's supposed to be-

Adrienne Iapalucci 32:18 It is horrible.

Joe Rogan 32:18 ... horrible, horrible with- withdrawals, especially when people go crazy and they're eating it all day long.

Adrienne Iapalucci 32:23 Oh, yeah. He was taking it all day.

Joe Rogan 32:25 (exhales deeply)

Adrienne Iapalucci 32:26 That was rough for him. That's when he started doing, uh, crack with prostitutes.

Joe Rogan 32:29 I had a buddy that was a comic and was, like, just having anxiety attacks. He just couldn't fucking control it and started taking Xanax, and it all went away. And, and then, and then all of a sudden he was fun again. It was weird. It was like-

Adrienne Iapalucci 32:42 Anxiety is terrible.

Joe Rogan 32:43 It's terrible. And I know it wor- Uh, b- his health deteriorated after, but he was drinking while he was doing it, which you're not supposed to do, which a lot of people do do. (laughs)

Adrienne Iapalucci 32:53 Sure.

Joe Rogan 32:53 This lady said this to me on an airplane. She, uh, she had a glass of wine. She goes, "A glass of wine and a Xanax, and I don't give a fuck about the world." (laughs)

Adrienne Iapalucci 33:03 Yeah. I've taken Xanax if I ... I went to Australia and I took it and I slept most of the flight.

Joe Rogan 33:09 Yeah.

Adrienne Iapalucci 33:09 It just knocks you out.

Joe Rogan 33:10 Yeah, I'm, I would imagine. It's a good move for a 16-hour flight. But is the comedown bad?

Adrienne Iapalucci 33:16 You're exhaust- You're, like, so tired the rest of that day. You're, like, de-

Joe Rogan 33:19 Mm-hmm.

Adrienne Iapalucci 33:19 You're, you're done. There's nothing you could do.

Joe Rogan 33:21 Mm.

Adrienne Iapalucci 33:21 That's why I would only take it if I, like, was flying.

Joe Rogan 33:25 Right. Yeah, I would- That would make me think that if you took it before you went on stage, that, that wouldn't be good either.

Adrienne Iapalucci 33:31 No, it's like a real downer.

Joe Rogan 33:33 I think he was doing that, though.

Adrienne Iapalucci 33:36 I'm amazed by people that could, like, do so much drugs and drink and go on stage.

Joe Rogan 33:40 Well, I wonder, though, like, how it's interacting with whatever individual's level of anxiety, right?

Adrienne Iapalucci 33:46 Sure.

Joe Rogan 33:46 Like, we all assume that people have the same anxiety.

Adrienne Iapalucci 33:49 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 33:49 But my level of anxiety differs throughout the day, and w- depending on what I'm doing, depending on-

Adrienne Iapalucci 33:54 Sure.

Joe Rogan 33:54 ... like, my activity level, whether I've exercised, whether I slept well, you know?

Adrienne Iapalucci 33:59 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 34:00 So it ... I don't have a lot of anxiety, but if someone had a lot of anxiety, like, or, like, a hi- We ... I don't even know what that feels like. That-

Adrienne Iapalucci 34:09 No.

Joe Rogan 34:09 Like, if Xanax is the only thing that takes them out of that, like, give them some fucking Xanax.

Adrienne Iapalucci 34:13 Absolutely.

Joe Rogan 34:14 What is that?

Adrienne Iapalucci 34:14 It's just for me, it makes me, like, a zombie. That's why I, I really can't take it.

Joe Rogan 34:18 I just wish there was something that had that sort of an effect but wasn't, like, so ferociously addictive.

Adrienne Iapalucci 34:27 I mean ...

Joe Rogan 34:27 Probably mushrooms.

Adrienne Iapalucci 34:30 I don't know.

Joe Rogan 34:31 I've had that-

Adrienne Iapalucci 34:31 I'm scared to do any of those drugs.

Joe Rogan 34:32 ... micro-dosing. Scared? Why?

Adrienne Iapalucci 34:34 I don't know. I reacted so badly. When I was ... I did an edible when I was at, uh, Moon Tower, like, last year.

Joe Rogan 34:41 Mm.

Adrienne Iapalucci 34:42 And that ... And I'd never done it before and it was, like, the worst experience.

Joe Rogan 34:45 How m- How many milligrams?

Adrienne Iapalucci 34:47 Um, I don't remember. It was, like, in a bag that they gave you.

Joe Rogan 34:50 Oh, God.

Adrienne Iapalucci 34:50 And my friend was like, "This is ..." She was like ... No, it was, like, from a company though. She was like, "This is very weak."

Joe Rogan 34:55 Oh, a company. (laughs)

Adrienne Iapalucci 34:55 I know, but it wasn't just, like, some guy off the street handed it to me. So I was like, "Oh, this seems legitimate." And I took it and I remember going to sleep and waking up to hearing the ocean.

Joe Rogan 35:03 (laughs)

Adrienne Iapalucci 35:04 I mean, it was so wild. I thought I was in that movie with Russell Crowe. What's that movie where he's like p- He thinks he's in the CIA but he's just bipolar or schizophrenic?

Joe Rogan 35:13 Oh, yeah.

Adrienne Iapalucci 35:14 So the whole time I thought I was, like, that situation. I mean, my f- I go n- It's not good for me. Like, my friend came over and I was like ... I used the same logic he used where he realized those people never aged, where I was like, "Okay, well, you're s- you're the same now." Like, I ... It was so crazy. I can't do, I can't do drugs.

Joe Rogan 35:31 Those people never aged?

Adrienne Iapalucci 35:33 In that movie, he's like ... I guess he sees, like, a little girl and he has this roommate. The, the Russell Crowe movie.

Joe Rogan 35:38 Oh, the Russell Crowe movie.

Adrienne Iapalucci 35:38 Yeah, so, but he realizes, like-

Joe Rogan 35:40 I don't remember the movie.

Adrienne Iapalucci 35:40 ... they're not real because 10 years later they're still the same age.

Joe Rogan 35:44 Oh.

Adrienne Iapalucci 35:44 And I used that logic to think that, like, my friend. I was like, "Well, you're still exactly the same." Like, it was just ... I went there. It was so crazy.

Joe Rogan 35:52 Whoa.

Adrienne Iapalucci 35:53 That's why I was like, "I'm not good on drugs."

Joe Rogan 35:55 Well, that's a big dose, it sounds like. I think someone ... The problem with those edibles, I used to have a bit about it, is they're, they're not consistent. They're not made-

Adrienne Iapalucci 36:02 No, they're not.

Joe Rogan 36:02 ... in the same place they make Tylenol. You know, that just-

Adrienne Iapalucci 36:04 They should.

Joe Rogan 36:05 Yeah, they should. It should be legal. They should all be legal so we'd know exactly what the fuck you're taking. I mean, how many people have to die of fentanyl before they realize, like ... We have to figure out ... Like, if there's a demand for these drugs, if people want these drugs, maybe it's education, maybe it's counseling, maybe it's drug rehabilitation centers that we need to open everywhere, and then there's a business in that. But you should be allowing people to have-... access to the actual drug, not coke that you're getting on the street that's cut with fentanyl that's gonna kill people.

Adrienne Iapalucci 36:36 Sure, yeah.

Joe Rogan 36:36 And how many people have to fucking die before you realize you're not gonna stop people from doing coke with a Just Say No campaign?

Adrienne Iapalucci 36:41 I don't know.

Joe Rogan 36:41 So, what are you gonna do? Why don't you let reputable companies sell that and sell p- pure versions of it and tell them what the fucking dose is that's gonna kill you. Let people know what's going on, and then make it so that you have to be 21 to buy it and educate people. Like, we're going to open up the country to legal drug sales. Because if you don't, all you're doing is arming the outlaws. You're giving them money, all the outlaws, the people that-

Adrienne Iapalucci 37:07 And it's unregulated.

Joe Rogan 37:08 And that's... And it's right south across our border. The, the Mexican cartels are fucking killing it, and they're not killing it because Just Say No worked. They're killing it because we don't have legal drugs.

Adrienne Iapalucci 37:18 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 37:18 So they sell illegal drugs. It's fucking bananas that a problem so, so obvious, it's like this, it's, it's an uncomfortable solution, but you gotta rip off the fucking Band-Aid, and you gotta make everything legal.

Adrienne Iapalucci 37:32 Remember that professor that was, uh, doing heroin recreationally?

Joe Rogan 37:37 Dr. Carl Hart.

Adrienne Iapalucci 37:38 Oh, that... That's the same guy.

Joe Rogan 37:39 Same guy. Yeah.

Adrienne Iapalucci 37:39 Okay.

Joe Rogan 37:40 I love that dude.

Adrienne Iapalucci 37:40 That's so crazy.

Joe Rogan 37:41 He's been on the podcast a few times. Yeah. Well, he does it recreationally. Yeah. And he talks about it. He says it's wonderful. He says, "I love to just be with my wife and listen to music."

Adrienne Iapalucci 37:51 I just feel like once I did that, I'd be like, "Well, this also seems like a good idea tomorrow." (laughs) Like I don't know that-

Joe Rogan 37:57 Yeah.

Adrienne Iapalucci 37:57 ... I would stop.

Joe Rogan 37:58 Well, that's-

Adrienne Iapalucci 37:59 That's a problem with addiction, like it's just like-

Joe Rogan 38:01 Right.

Adrienne Iapalucci 38:01 ... that guy can do it, but like...

Joe Rogan 38:03 Right. Well, one of the things that he talked about that's interesting is like this heroin withdrawal, um, myth. He's like, "It's like getting sick. It's like you're sick with a cold for a couple of days." He goes, "That's what it's like. It's not like you're dying." He goes, "It's not that bad." He goes, "It's just very exaggerated in media depictions and films." And people are like, "Ahh."

Adrienne Iapalucci 38:27 But that sounds awful.

Joe Rogan 38:28 It sounds like it sucks-

Adrienne Iapalucci 38:29 Who wants to like-

Joe Rogan 38:29 ... to be... have a cold for a few days, but then you're not addicted to heroin anymore.

Adrienne Iapalucci 38:33 Hmm.

Joe Rogan 38:34 But-

Adrienne Iapalucci 38:34 But then if you just keep doing heroin, you just keep feeling better.

Joe Rogan 38:37 Well, also, you gotta realize, like sick f- like, what does sick mean? Like, if you're sick and you've been doing heroin a lot and so you're malnourished and your immune system is dead and, you know, you're, you're sl- very little sleep and you're just all fucked up and poor, and then you get withdrawals and you get really sick, that could fucking kill you depending upon your health.

Adrienne Iapalucci 39:00 Depending on how healthy of a heroin person you are.

Joe Rogan 39:03 Yeah.

Adrienne Iapalucci 39:04 Like, I wonder if he calls in sick and everyone's like, "He's doing heroin."

Joe Rogan 39:06 People do heroin recreationally, and they have for a long time. There was this buddy of mine who was a longshoreman in Boston, and he worked with this guy who would buy a bag of heroin at lunch every day, and he would go in his truck, and he would shoot up. And so-

Adrienne Iapalucci 39:22 That seems like a lot of heroin.

Joe Rogan 39:24 Well, I mean, I don't know how much-

Adrienne Iapalucci 39:25 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 39:25 ... you know, he did at a time. But he... This guy was functional.

Adrienne Iapalucci 39:29 Okay.

Joe Rogan 39:29 He said he would go in his car. He would shoot up. Everybody knew what he was doing. He would go in his car and shoot up, and he would sit in his car for his hour lunch break, and then he'd go back to work. No problems.

Adrienne Iapalucci 39:39 That's insane.

Joe Rogan 39:40 Insane.

Adrienne Iapalucci 39:41 I mean, with Xanax, I wanna fall asleep.

Joe Rogan 39:44 It's, it's a weird thing that pe- I, I met a guy who was a pool player once. He was a, uh, a l- like a very prominent, uh, like top level pool player where he'd gamble for a lot of money. And we were at a pool hall in White Plains, New York. This guy, they, they called him Buffalo Bill, was one of his nicknames. Water Dog was another one of his nicknames. And this dude, uh, would... Had... He had to do heroin before he played, and everybody knew. And so this guy was gambling with him, and this guy, um, Water Dog, goes into the bathroom, locks the door. He's in there for like 10 minutes. He comes out, and he just sits on the chair like this, like a billiards chair. He sits like this for like 20 minutes, just sits there like this like... And we're just looking at him, and I was, you know, 23 at the time or something like that. I was like, "Look at this motherfucker. Look at him." And then he would get up, and it was like he had shark eyes. There was like no one there. There was no one there. And then he would play pool, and he couldn't miss. He couldn't miss. It was insane. It was insane to watch. It was... They're playing on these pockets, this table with these really tight pockets, and they're gambling for a lot of money. And he has-

Adrienne Iapalucci 40:49 That should be not legal. (laughs) Like-

Joe Rogan 40:50 He has no nerves. He has no nerves. He's not feeling any pressure at all. He's just playing perfect. And everybody watches like, "Holy shit." And it made people want to do heroin.

Adrienne Iapalucci 41:01 I do... Not that it shouldn't b- have been legal, but I'm saying like if you're oppo-... If you're playing him and you're, like, against him, I'd be like, "He can't do heroin. That just enhances his performance."

Joe Rogan 41:10 You're talking about pool. I- in, uh, in the pool world, uh, everybody does drugs. (laughs)

Adrienne Iapalucci 41:15 Really?

Joe Rogan 41:15 There's a l- I mean, there's elite players that are completely cle- clean and sober on a professional level. Like, absolutely. But in, like, pool hall gambling, drugs were ubiquitous. Drugs were like-

Adrienne Iapalucci 41:26 Interesting.

Joe Rogan 41:27 Yeah. Drugs-

Adrienne Iapalucci 41:27 I don't know about the-

Joe Rogan 41:28 Amphetamines were like the, the choice pill for people when they gambled for like 20 hours in a row. They would just take amphetamines and keep gambling.

Adrienne Iapalucci 41:37 I just think, like, I'd be scared to do that. Addiction is so rampant in my family. Like, my biological father was a drug user. My uncle was a Hell's Angel. He was on tons of drugs and stuff. So, I just feel like, I don't know-

Joe Rogan 41:50 Yeah.

Adrienne Iapalucci 41:50 ... I have enough issues.

Joe Rogan 41:52 Yeah. I hear you. I don't know if drug addiction is... I think some of it's gotta be physical. Some of it's gotta be genetic. It's gotta be. I mean, it just makes sense. People from some parts of the world where they don't, uh, have a history of alcohol, they experience alcohol. They have real problems with it. Part of it's gotta be genetic, but then part of it's gotta be cultural too when you're around all these people.

Adrienne Iapalucci 42:13 Definitely.

Joe Rogan 42:14 It becomes like learned behavior. It's, you know, release at the end of the day. Give me a fucking beer and ah.

Adrienne Iapalucci 42:20 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 42:21 It just becomes something that, you know, it gets very ingrained. And also, the patterns of behavior that come with alcoholism, the fucking up and the fu- life falling apart and the disastrous choices you make.

Adrienne Iapalucci 42:33 Driving drunk.

Joe Rogan 42:34 Oh, yeah.

Adrienne Iapalucci 42:35 Just like losing-

Joe Rogan 42:36 All that.

Adrienne Iapalucci 42:36 ... your family.

Joe Rogan 42:36 Fights.

Adrienne Iapalucci 42:36 Like there's so many... Yeah.

Joe Rogan 42:38 Yeah. All that. All that.... just, ugh. I mean, how many lives have been lost to drugs that you could buy legally, like booze?

Adrienne Iapalucci 42:46 Sure.

Joe Rogan 42:46 Booze has fucked up more people, but I like it.

Adrienne Iapalucci 42:50 Yeah, of course.

Joe Rogan 42:50 I like it. I like a little drink every now and then. I don't think it's- it's like... But, pff, the idea that we're protecting people by keeping some drugs illegal, I just... I think what we're doing is we're making a nanny state that we can't get out of, and we've gotten ourselves into this box, this nanny state box.

Adrienne Iapalucci 43:06 Maybe down the line it will be legal. Who knows?

Joe Rogan 43:08 It's- it's going to be, 'cause it's legal now in certain states. Like, uh, uh, Oregon has essentially decriminalized everything. They've decriminalized cocaine, mushrooms, whatever. It's you- you're not supposed to sell it. You can't sell it, but you can have it, which is wild. And I-

Adrienne Iapalucci 43:25 So where do you get it from?

Joe Rogan 43:27 Yeah, that's a good point. You know, (sighs) I don't know if they're specific about that, and I don't know if there's, like, legal distribution. So, I know they have legal marijuana.

Adrienne Iapalucci 43:35 Right.

Joe Rogan 43:36 But that's- that's like 18 states now, have legal weed. Legal weed is pretty- pretty well accepted as a good thing, and I think even now, there's a lot of right-wing people that smoke weed, and I think that was a big change. 'Cause I think a lot of left-wing people were always associated with marijuana and laziness, and then right-wing people are like, "Fuck that. Fucking potheads." But now, a lot of right-wing people, like maybe your dad's got arthritis, and he smokes a little weed before he goes to bed, and maybe you have an edible, and you really like hanging out with your wife and watching movies, and then, you know, you're like, "Hey, maybe this pot's not that bad."

Adrienne Iapalucci 44:14 I don't know. Don't you feel like a lot of people are doing coke? Like, on both sides?

Joe Rogan 44:17 I think so. I mean, I know so. I know a lot of people who are doing coke. Yeah.

Adrienne Iapalucci 44:22 So it's like... I don't know. I feel like both sides do everything.

Joe Rogan 44:27 (laughs) Yeah, but I think psychedelics more li- Well, not anymore. I used to say psychedelics are more likely to be tried by the left, but goddamn, there's a lot of soldiers that have had great benefit with psychedelics, and they've shared those experiences with a lot of other soldiers.

Adrienne Iapalucci 44:41 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 44:41 And I've had quite a few, uh, talk about it on this podcast, but, um, one of the things that MAPS is doing is using MDMA for soldiers with PTSD, and that's shown-

Adrienne Iapalucci 44:50 Ah.

Joe Rogan 44:50 ... amazing results. So I think e- the right is opening up their eyes to it more too. It's like, it's a quality of life thing that's probably been here forever, and if you believe in God, he probably put all that stuff here for us. It's just managing it correctly, you know? The ones that can be beneficial, like- like mushrooms, like MDMA, like th- all these things, they- they have a- a positive effect when done correctly with the right person. And-

Adrienne Iapalucci 45:16 Sure.

Joe Rogan 45:16 And to deny that is just stupid at this point. To make them Schedule I drugs in 2023 with ChatGPT and everyone's got 5G, we know what the fuck is going on.

Adrienne Iapalucci 45:26 Right.

Joe Rogan 45:27 Like, stop.

Adrienne Iapalucci 45:28 But even something like gambling that's legal can still ruin your life.

Joe Rogan 45:31 Fuck yeah, it can. Yeah.

Adrienne Iapalucci 45:33 And like-

Joe Rogan 45:33 And I support it.

Adrienne Iapalucci 45:34 Yeah, my dad was a gambler.

Joe Rogan 45:36 Gamble it up. Let's go.

Adrienne Iapalucci 45:36 We had nothing. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 45:37 (laughs)

Adrienne Iapalucci 45:39 He used to gamble with our lives pretty regularly.

Joe Rogan 45:42 God, isn't that crazy? When, uh, I sta- first started playing pool, that's when I first started being around gamblers. I did- I had never been around gamblers as a child, and so I- I never knew, like, what that addiction is like, to watch it play out.

Adrienne Iapalucci 45:55 Oh, yeah.

Joe Rogan 45:56 It's crazy.

Adrienne Iapalucci 45:57 My dad was, like, just emotionally unavailable.

Joe Rogan 46:00 (Exhales) Just always wanted to gamble?

Adrienne Iapalucci 46:02 Always wanted to gamble. We used to go to the OTB as kids.

Joe Rogan 46:04 Oh, my-

Adrienne Iapalucci 46:04 Like, the la- We went there so often, the lady behind the thing had my school picture up.

Joe Rogan 46:08 Oh my God.

Adrienne Iapalucci 46:08 That's how often we went there. Yeah.

Joe Rogan 46:10 Oh my God.

Adrienne Iapalucci 46:12 Yeah, he was a bad gambler. But he also didn't make a lot of money, which is crazy.

Joe Rogan 46:16 Oh.

Adrienne Iapalucci 46:16 Right? It's like, you can't be a mailman and a gambler.

Joe Rogan 46:20 It- it gets anybody. Any-

Adrienne Iapalucci 46:22 No, I know.

Joe Rogan 46:22 It can get anybody. Did you see, uh, Uncut Gems?

Adrienne Iapalucci 46:26 No.

Joe Rogan 46:27 It's fucking amazing.

Adrienne Iapalucci 46:29 Is it?

Joe Rogan 46:29 Yeah, it's Adam Sandler plays a gambling addict.

Adrienne Iapalucci 46:31 Oh, I'll watch it.

Joe Rogan 46:31 And you will get such anxiety while you're watching. You'll be like, "Oh, Jesus fucking Christ. What are you doing? What are you doing?"

Adrienne Iapalucci 46:38 Oh.

Joe Rogan 46:38 It's so good. Adam Sandler's so good in it, and it's a dramatic role.

Adrienne Iapalucci 46:44 I'll watch it.

Joe Rogan 46:44 It's not a- not a comedy at all. Adam Sandler killed it. It's a great movie, but-

Adrienne Iapalucci 46:48 Is he, like, a rich gambler in it?

Joe Rogan 46:50 He's a jeweler.

Adrienne Iapalucci 46:51 Oh, okay.

Joe Rogan 46:52 Yeah, and he's just... It's great. It's great. He's great. But those guys are real. I know those guys. I knew a lot of those guys. They would come into the pool hall and just start talking about the loss and the this, "And I'm gonna get it back, and I'ma..." And the fucking, "The bowls were down by six," and they were just, "Argh." They were just in it all the time. I was like, "This is crazy."

Adrienne Iapalucci 47:15 My dad's thing was like OTB and gambling and the Meadowlands and any of that stuff. I mean, he also, I think, gambled on football and stuff, but mostly like the horses.

Joe Rogan 47:23 Yeah. The horses are crazy.

Adrienne Iapalucci 47:24 But he liked Atlantic City too, stuff like that.

Joe Rogan 47:27 Dog races.

Adrienne Iapalucci 47:28 I don't know if he did that, but I'm sure he would. I feel like he'd gamble on anything.

Joe Rogan 47:33 I had a friend of mine who, uh, adopted a greyhound, 'cause-

Adrienne Iapalucci 47:36 Oh, one of the ones that was like-

Joe Rogan 47:37 Yeah.

Adrienne Iapalucci 47:37 ... used to race?

Joe Rogan 47:39 And, um, I had an apartment at the time, but I was gonna get one too. They- they were so n- cool. They're so sleek. They're so... And-

Adrienne Iapalucci 47:47 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 47:47 (laughs) But-

Adrienne Iapalucci 47:48 My friend was trying to walk it. The leashes come off their head, he said.

Joe Rogan 47:51 Yeah. Well, not only that. Um, when my friend took his out, he didn't realize... First of all, they're so fast.

Adrienne Iapalucci 47:59 Oh, yeah.

Joe Rogan 48:00 Like-

Adrienne Iapalucci 48:00 They're very fast.

Joe Rogan 48:00 When they go, like you are not catching them.

Adrienne Iapalucci 48:03 Nope.

Joe Rogan 48:03 And when he saw a cat, he just went after it. And so he was off leash in this like empty park, he thought he'd be fine-

Adrienne Iapalucci 48:11 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 48:11 ... and the fucking greyhound just went for that cat.

Adrienne Iapalucci 48:14 Well, he's really free now.

Joe Rogan 48:16 Yeah. It's like, he- he didn't realize like, "Oh, they're- they're not cool with animals." Like, that's the whole thing about racing is they're chasing a rabbit.

Adrienne Iapalucci 48:24 Right.

Joe Rogan 48:24 If they see an animal, they fucking sprint towards it.

Adrienne Iapalucci 48:28 Yeah, you can't deprogram that.

Joe Rogan 48:29 No. No, no, no. So he- he realized like, "Oh my God, I gotta be really careful with this thing. Can't just like ever let it go without a leash."

Adrienne Iapalucci 48:36 You ever see the little ones, the little greyhounds?

Joe Rogan 48:38 No.

Adrienne Iapalucci 48:39 They have miniature greyhounds.

Joe Rogan 48:40 Miniature greyhounds?

Adrienne Iapalucci 48:41 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 48:42 Aw.

Adrienne Iapalucci 48:43 They're cute.

Joe Rogan 48:44 Let me see Jimmy.

Adrienne Iapalucci 48:46 They're cute. They're-

Joe Rogan 48:47 You know-

Adrienne Iapalucci 48:47 ... like, just big gray ... They have the same thing.

Joe Rogan 48:49 You know what the weirdest dog is?

Adrienne Iapalucci 48:51 Which one?

Joe Rogan 48:52 A whippet with a myostatin inhibitor.

Adrienne Iapalucci 48:55 I don't even know what that is.

Joe Rogan 48:56 A whippet is this cute dog. Aw, look at the little cutie!

Adrienne Iapalucci 49:01 They're cute. Yeah.

Joe Rogan 49:02 Oh, that's adorable. That looks like a little Cuddle Dog.

Adrienne Iapalucci 49:05 They're fast.

Joe Rogan 49:06 Wow, look at them go. Look how they cross their legs like that.

Adrienne Iapalucci 49:09 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 49:09 They just get so much fucking torque.

Adrienne Iapalucci 49:12 They have so much energy.

Joe Rogan 49:13 So there's a dog called a whippet and every now and then they have a genetic anomaly, it's a myostatin inhibitor, and it causes them, their ... uncontrollable growth of muscles.

Adrienne Iapalucci 49:23 What do they look like?

Joe Rogan 49:24 Freaks. They don't even look like they're real. They look like, like a comic superhero, like if you had injected a comic book superhero dog with, like, Hulk serum, it just went ...

Adrienne Iapalucci 49:35 Are they fighting those things?

Joe Rogan 49:36 No, no, no, no. Look. That's what it looks like.

Adrienne Iapalucci 49:39 Oh, gross.

Joe Rogan 49:40 Isn't that crazy? Look how jacked he is.

Adrienne Iapalucci 49:42 That's not ... That's, like, natural?

Joe Rogan 49:44 Uh, yeah, it's just a natural genetic, uh, uh, anomaly.

Adrienne Iapalucci 49:47 But, like, why wouldn't you fight that? That thing is huge.

Joe Rogan 49:49 Because they're nice.

Adrienne Iapalucci 49:51 You know what I'm saying?

Joe Rogan 49:51 They don't wanna fight.

Adrienne Iapalucci 49:51 No, I know, but they're f- ... They're, like, teaching other dogs to fight. I'm surprised they don't use these guys.

Joe Rogan 49:55 Well, it's not really as much about your ... the strength of your, uh, like, all those extra big muscles. Those are gonna, like, cause you to get tired quicker.

Adrienne Iapalucci 50:04 Oh.

Joe Rogan 50:04 And then on top of that, it's really the bite of the jaw. That's-

Adrienne Iapalucci 50:07 That's true.

Joe Rogan 50:08 The strength of the bite and then also the game instinct. So some dogs, when they get hurt, they wanna get outta there, and pit bulls don't care about that-

Adrienne Iapalucci 50:16 Right.

Joe Rogan 50:17 And that- that's bred into them, so when a dog would cower away, they wouldn't allow that dog to breed.

Adrienne Iapalucci 50:22 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 50:22 In a lot of places, they'd kill the dog. That was the whole, uh, thing. When they ... Whenever they catch dog fighting, the horrible things, like what they do to the dogs who lose. They don't let-

Adrienne Iapalucci 50:32 So sad.

Joe Rogan 50:32 ... 'cause they don't want them to breed. Like, if a dog quits, they just kill that dog.

Adrienne Iapalucci 50:36 I remember when, uh, everything was going on with Michael Vick and I didn't-

Joe Rogan 50:39 Yeah.

Adrienne Iapalucci 50:39 ... know what he looked like, and I'd just seen this guy on the front of the newspaper. I go, "Who's this guy? He's hot." And someone was like, "That's Michael Vick," and I was like, "Oh, that hurts so bad." (laughs)

Joe Rogan 50:48 Oof. Yeah, he was involved in that stuff. I knew a dude, uh, at one point in time, he had like 13 dogs in his yard in, uh ... I think it was in Oklahoma. And, uh, my friend was like, "I think he really likes dogs." I go, "Nuh-uh." I go, "He's got 13 pit bulls on chains in his yard?" I go, "That guy fights dogs."

Adrienne Iapalucci 51:10 Yeah. That's gross. I hate that.

Joe Rogan 51:12 Yeah. He f- ... He was a d- dog fighting b- ... gambling guy, so he was breeding dogs for dog fights. That's still going on right now in this country.

Adrienne Iapalucci 51:20 Of course, yeah.

Joe Rogan 51:21 Underground dog fights. It's ... Phew.

Adrienne Iapalucci 51:23 Ugh. I can't see that.

Joe Rogan 51:25 Ooh.

Adrienne Iapalucci 51:25 That ... Like, nothing makes me more upset than that, I think.

Joe Rogan 51:27 That is horrible. What's really fucked up is the dogs are wagging their tails.

Adrienne Iapalucci 51:32 Well, 'cause they think that they're doing good.

Joe Rogan 51:34 Yeah, they, uh, they enjoy that, that fight. Goddamn it. It's so awful. It's just so crazy that that's going on right now.

Adrienne Iapalucci 51:44 So much stuff is going on right now.

Joe Rogan 51:46 Yeah.

Adrienne Iapalucci 51:46 Someone's getting sex trafficked right now.

Joe Rogan 51:48 Right now. Right across, right across the border.

Adrienne Iapalucci 51:51 Yeah. Whenever I go to the airport and they have those signs in the bathroom, like, "If you're being sex trafficked," I'm like, "You think they're letting them go in the bathroom?" (laughs)

Joe Rogan 51:57 Oh, right. Fuck. It's just so hard to believe that some people are that evil.

Adrienne Iapalucci 52:06 Money makes people do crazy stuff, and I think your circumstances too. If you don't have money and you're like, "This is something I could do," it's still shitty, but I think some people are like, "I have no other choice."

Joe Rogan 52:16 Yeah.

Adrienne Iapalucci 52:16 It doesn't make it right.

Joe Rogan 52:19 Do they have no other choice but to sex traffic? Can't you sell stuff? (laughs)

Adrienne Iapalucci 52:22 Yeah, they're selling the women. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 52:23 (laughs) I'd say it's a lot of the ... I think it's the amount of money too.

Adrienne Iapalucci 52:27 Yes, I think if you're selling, you know, knives door to door, you're not making as much.

Joe Rogan 52:31 (laughs)

Adrienne Iapalucci 52:32 He's like, "I tried doing this for a year, I wasn't making a lot of money." (laughs)

Joe Rogan 52:35 Knives door to door. Imagine having the enthusiasm for that job.

Adrienne Iapalucci 52:39 No.

Joe Rogan 52:41 Fuck. This is how you have to feed yourself, selling knives.

Adrienne Iapalucci 52:44 I remember when I first started doing standup, I would bark for stage time, which is basically like, "Hey, do you wanna come to a comedy show?" And, like, I was so bad at it 'cause people would just be like, "No," and I'd be like, "All right." (laughs)

Joe Rogan 52:55 (laughs)

Adrienne Iapalucci 52:55 I'm like, "I get it." This is so d- ... I would, I mean, I felt so dumb doing it.

Joe Rogan 52:58 Did you develop strategies on, like, how to talk to people?

Adrienne Iapalucci 53:00 No.

Joe Rogan 53:01 No. (laughs)

Adrienne Iapalucci 53:02 I just hated it. I, like ... It's weird to just be on the street as a salesman, being like, "Hey, come to this show," and ...

Joe Rogan 53:08 I think that's only a New York City thing.

Adrienne Iapalucci 53:10 It might be.

Joe Rogan 53:11 Have you seen it before?

Guest 53:12 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 53:12 Where?

Guest 53:12 I've seen it here on 6th Street and-

Joe Rogan 53:14 Oh, in Austin?

Guest 53:15 ... for other things too they're doing.

Joe Rogan 53:16 For standup shows?

Guest 53:17 For standup, yes, and I've seen it for other shows here too.

Joe Rogan 53:19 No shit.

Guest 53:20 For other shows in, like-

Joe Rogan 53:20 I wonder if they got it from New York. I wond- I wonder.

Adrienne Iapalucci 53:24 Hmm.

Guest 53:25 I don't know. I haven't paid attention for maybe a day or few days, but-

Joe Rogan 53:26 I mean, I, I'd always heard of it primarily as a New York thing. I knew a lot of New York guys who used to do that in the early days.

Adrienne Iapalucci 53:32 Yeah, and especially in Manhattan, everyone's walking so you can-

Joe Rogan 53:35 Yeah.

Adrienne Iapalucci 53:35 ... just catch people like that.

Joe Rogan 53:36 Yeah.

Adrienne Iapalucci 53:38 But I was not good at it at all.

Joe Rogan 53:40 Manhattan's an interesting place for comedy, you know, 'cause there's so many clubs.

Adrienne Iapalucci 53:44 So many clubs. Even so many, like, good bar shows and, like, lounges, so you can-

Joe Rogan 53:48 Mm-hmm.

Adrienne Iapalucci 53:48 ... get a lot of stage time.

Joe Rogan 53:50 Yeah. And there's a lot of comics there too.

Adrienne Iapalucci 53:53 There's so many comics. And a lot of people kind of sprung up after the pandemic too. Like, a lot of people that had, like, social media, big social media presence, and then they just kinda switched into standup. Like-

Joe Rogan 54:05 Mm-hmm.

Adrienne Iapalucci 54:05 ... if you're just doing funny videos.

Joe Rogan 54:07 Right.

Adrienne Iapalucci 54:08 So I think there's more people like that too doing standup.

Joe Rogan 54:12 Well, (sighs) if your job got taken away from you during the pandemic, I would imagine that would be a good time to try standup if you'd always wanted to do it.

Adrienne Iapalucci 54:19 Sure, while you were getting money from the government, of course.

Joe Rogan 54:23 Yeah. How many open mic nights do they have? Do they have a lot of open mic nights in New York?

Adrienne Iapalucci 54:25 Oh, there's mics every night.

Joe Rogan 54:27 Really?

Adrienne Iapalucci 54:27 You can do probably, like, six a night if you, like, set it up right.

Joe Rogan 54:30 Ah.

Adrienne Iapalucci 54:31 You could do a ton of mics.

Joe Rogan 54:32 Wow.

Adrienne Iapalucci 54:33 But they're expensive.

Joe Rogan 54:34 What do you mean?

Adrienne Iapalucci 54:35 You gotta pay. You gotta pay, like-

Joe Rogan 54:36 What?

Adrienne Iapalucci 54:36 ... five bucks or buy a drink or ... 'Cause, like, what are they getting out of it if you don't do that? What is, like, this bar getting out of it or s-

Joe Rogan 54:42 You have to pay to do standup?

Adrienne Iapalucci 54:45 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 54:45 Wow.Wow.

Adrienne Iapalucci 54:46 And you're doing it for other comics, so you're not doing it for, like, audience usually.

Joe Rogan 54:50 Oh my gosh. (laughs)

Adrienne Iapalucci 54:50 Sometimes, but most of the time, and people still don't quit. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 54:55 Wow. So-

Adrienne Iapalucci 54:56 You think it would weed them out.

Joe Rogan 54:57 What kind of an audience are you talking about? Like, how many people are supposed to be there?

Adrienne Iapalucci 55:00 I mean, I haven't done it in a long time, but when I was doing it you're... Say there's 15 comics on the mic, you're doing it for those 15 people.

Joe Rogan 55:06 That's it.

Adrienne Iapalucci 55:06 And if it's a random bar, maybe some people will come in off the street or, like, at the bar, but yeah, you're doing it for comics.

Joe Rogan 55:11 So you're paying to do comedy to your peers?

Adrienne Iapalucci 55:15 Yes.

Joe Rogan 55:16 Wow. Why am I surprised by that?

Guest 55:19 I don't know. That does... Eh, never mind.

Joe Rogan 55:22 What? Go ahead.

Guest 55:23 It sounds a lot like that... Why not just go to standup school then, or classes or whatever, you know?

Joe Rogan 55:26 Well-

Guest 55:27 You're paying for time.

Joe Rogan 55:27 I think it is, it is standup school.

Guest 55:30 But it's like there's no teacher.

Joe Rogan 55:31 Right.

Guest 55:32 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 55:32 But it is standup school. It's just like-

Guest 55:35 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 55:35 ... you're, you're on a path.

Adrienne Iapalucci 55:37 Yeah, I mean that's... I know in other places, like my friend had come from Seattle and was doing standup. She said, like, "In Seattle there's an actual audience."

Joe Rogan 55:45 Hmm.

Adrienne Iapalucci 55:45 Like, you know, there might be 100 people, so it's a show.

Joe Rogan 55:47 Yeah.

Adrienne Iapalucci 55:48 But in New York that's not, it's a lot of comics in the audience.

Joe Rogan 55:51 Hmm.

Adrienne Iapalucci 55:54 Comics who are, like, looking at their own notes and not necessarily paying attention.

Joe Rogan 55:57 Do any of the good clubs have open mics? Like does The Cellar have an open mic night?

Adrienne Iapalucci 56:01 No. I know The Stand has an open mic night, and maybe New York Comedy Club.

Joe Rogan 56:07 I think you kinda have to have an open mic night.

Adrienne Iapalucci 56:10 The s- The Cellar doesn't.

Joe Rogan 56:12 Hmm. It seems like it would be better if they did. I know it wouldn't be better financially, you know? It's always-

Adrienne Iapalucci 56:18 No, but if you did it during the day when you're not having shows anyway...

Joe Rogan 56:20 Yeah. It's just, people need places to go up. And they... (laughs) It's like if, if your growth process is dependent upon you doing standup in front of 15 comics...

Adrienne Iapalucci 56:32 Well, that's why, you know, you start barking or I would intern for, like, 10 hours on a Friday night seating the customers and then, like, get a five-minute spot.

Joe Rogan 56:40 You had to intern?

Adrienne Iapalucci 56:42 Yeah, I did wild stuff. Like, that's how I, I came up doing standup, because I was like the open mics are just, uh, a lo- like other new comics, so...

Joe Rogan 56:50 So you would intern, meaning you'd work for free.

Adrienne Iapalucci 56:52 I'd work for free.

Joe Rogan 56:52 So that you could do a five-minute set?

Adrienne Iapalucci 56:55 And ma- And a lot of the times that set's gonna get canceled.

Joe Rogan 56:59 So you'd work for free.

Adrienne Iapalucci 57:00 Work for free.

Joe Rogan 57:01 And then never get compensated. No set.

Adrienne Iapalucci 57:03 No, you either sometimes got a spot or sometimes didn't.

Joe Rogan 57:06 Wow, so you'd work for free for 10 hours?

Adrienne Iapalucci 57:09 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 57:10 For a five-minute spot?

Adrienne Iapalucci 57:11 Mm-hmm. That may not happen.

Joe Rogan 57:13 Well, that will fucking weed out the weak.

Adrienne Iapalucci 57:17 Yeah, but, like not... Like my family life was so dysfunctional that that seemed normal.

Joe Rogan 57:22 (laughs)

Adrienne Iapalucci 57:22 I was like, "This seems like... Okay, this seems average to me."

Joe Rogan 57:26 (laughs)

Adrienne Iapalucci 57:26 Like I-

Joe Rogan 57:26 Just get used to disappointment?

Adrienne Iapalucci 57:28 Yeah, you're just used to it. You're like, "This seems average. This seems like what I've been dealing with."

Joe Rogan 57:32 Wow. Well, you found your tribe.

Adrienne Iapalucci 57:37 I found my tribe.

Joe Rogan 57:38 Yeah. (laughs)

Adrienne Iapalucci 57:41 Wild tribe.

Joe Rogan 57:42 It's just so interesting when you meet someone like Ari, like when I met him at the very beginning and to see him now. It's funny, just it's fascinating watching these, uh, broken toys meander their way through our society.

Adrienne Iapalucci 57:56 It's funny, me and him were talking last night, um, at your club. And he was just talking about, like, I guess dating people and stuff, and he's like, "Well, you and I are broken."

Joe Rogan 58:04 (laughs)

Adrienne Iapalucci 58:04 I was like, I was like, "What are you talking about?" He's like, "Adrienne."

Joe Rogan 58:07 (laughs)

Adrienne Iapalucci 58:08 He's like, "Nobody's, nobody's going... They wanna date somebody like you." He's like, "You need a lot of s- time to yourself." And I was like, "Oh, he's not wrong."

Joe Rogan 58:16 Mm.

Adrienne Iapalucci 58:17 And he's the same way too, like he just... He was telling me about, like, this couple he had met that they live... They were married 40 years, but they live in different houses.

Joe Rogan 58:26 Hmm.

Adrienne Iapalucci 58:27 And he's like, "They, they have a great relationship. They don't fight about, like, the little things that a lot of people do when you live together." And he's like, "They have a great relationship." And I was like, "That's not the worst idea."

Joe Rogan 58:36 It's not the worst idea. Uh, the, the idea that you have to be in the same house together, it's like, says who?

Adrienne Iapalucci 58:43 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 58:43 Like people like a little space.

Adrienne Iapalucci 58:45 Yeah, I mean, at one point I had a two-bedroom apartment. Me and my ex-boyfriend slept separately. I mean, we were also had a terrible relationship, but like we had our own bedrooms.

Joe Rogan 58:52 Hmm.

Adrienne Iapalucci 58:54 Like I wouldn't be opposed to that.

Joe Rogan 58:56 It doesn't seem like the worst thing in the world. But whenever you see a couple where they don't sleep in the same bed anymore, you're like, "Oh, sad."

Adrienne Iapalucci 59:02 I know. We all judge them, but I'm like, "Sh- They're sleeping great."

Joe Rogan 59:06 That's Mark's room over there.

Adrienne Iapalucci 59:08 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 59:08 I sleep over here.

Adrienne Iapalucci 59:10 I know, but if you say it like, "That's his room, this is my room."

Joe Rogan 59:13 Yeah.

Adrienne Iapalucci 59:13 I think you gotta figure out how we were saying it. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 59:15 Yeah. And then also some people like to sleep in the room really fucking cold.

Adrienne Iapalucci 59:20 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 59:21 And that shit's annoying if you don't like that.

Adrienne Iapalucci 59:23 I like, I likes, like, a fan all year round.

Joe Rogan 59:26 Ah.

Adrienne Iapalucci 59:26 I like the noise.

Joe Rogan 59:26 The noise?

Adrienne Iapalucci 59:27 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 59:27 Yeah. There's something about, like, static noise that does help you sleep.

Adrienne Iapalucci 59:32 Yeah. I just like it. I like the sound of an air conditioner, like in the summer.

Joe Rogan 59:37 I slept, uh, at this house in Malibu once, by the ocean. And, uh, I- I... We rented it out for a couple months, and, uh, when you're in bed and you just hear the shhh...

Adrienne Iapalucci 59:49 That sounds, like, really relaxing.

Joe Rogan 59:53 Shhh. It is, and so it's weird. It's like, it's like hypnotic.

Adrienne Iapalucci 59:57 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 59:58 And it's also, it's so powerful. You're, you're, you're l- laying down at the base of just insane force of nature, this immense body of water, and you've got the audacity to sleep-

Adrienne Iapalucci 1:00:12 To live right close to it.

Joe Rogan 1:00:13 ... at the edges, at the edges where this impossible amount of water laps up. That's where you wanna put your house. (laughs)

Adrienne Iapalucci 1:00:20 I've had nightmares about, like, just a tsunami just like-

Joe Rogan 1:00:23 (laughs)

Adrienne Iapalucci 1:00:23 ... engulfing my house.

Joe Rogan 1:00:25 I loved being at that place, but it was very illuminating. It's very illuminating why rich people wanna live, like, right on the water in Malibu, 'cause I was like, "Why would they wanna live right next to each other like that? That's crazy." And then you, like, rent a house there and you're like, "Oh, I get it." This is like magic. There's something magic about the water being right in front of you.

Adrienne Iapalucci 1:00:43 I would love, I would love to live on a beach.

Joe Rogan 1:00:43 It's magic. It's like it gives you magic energy. It's crazy. It's, there's something about it, like being right there it's like, "Wow, this feels cr- It feels like I'm on a drug."

Adrienne Iapalucci 1:00:52 And it's so calming.

Joe Rogan 1:00:54 So calming.... but at nighttime, it's terrifying. The same water that looks so inviting in the daytime, what's blue and you see the seagulls and it's beautiful, at nighttime, it becomes an angry monster that can swallow civilization. Just dark, dark black. You don't know what ... You can't see anything. You don't know what it ... It's an immense thing. And at any point in time, the Earth could just ... A little shift and then a fucking big one comes in. Whoosh. And it just all the way to Arizona. Just all the way to Arizona.

Adrienne Iapalucci 1:01:31 I think anything at night is a lot scarier.

Joe Rogan 1:01:33 Oh, yeah.

Adrienne Iapalucci 1:01:33 Like, I'll come home 3:00 at night and I'll have to park two blocks away and I'm just like ... I have like, you know, pepper spray in my hand-

Joe Rogan 1:01:39 Yeah.

Adrienne Iapalucci 1:01:39 ... and I have the whole thing.

Joe Rogan 1:01:41 Yeah.

Adrienne Iapalucci 1:01:41 Whereas during the day, it's, like, just different.

Joe Rogan 1:01:43 I know. A different thi- ... Some things are really scary, but only in certain circumstances. Like, babies are never scary. But if you were in a moonlit forest-

Adrienne Iapalucci 1:01:57 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 1:01:57 ... and you were walking through the forest and you saw a naked baby just staring at you by itself, you would shit your pants.

Adrienne Iapalucci 1:02:03 I would definitely not help it.

Joe Rogan 1:02:05 If you saw a baby just standing upright, just looking at you naked-

Adrienne Iapalucci 1:02:09 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:02:09 ... in a moonlit forest in the middle of nowhere. You had a hike in and you see a naked baby, you're like, "I gotta get the fuck out of here."

Adrienne Iapalucci 1:02:16 Yeah. First of all, you're like, "Where is this kid's parents?" (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:02:20 Right, for sure. For sure you'd be-

Adrienne Iapalucci 1:02:22 Like, if-

Joe Rogan 1:02:22 ... where this kid's parents, but you'd also be like, "Why is there a naked baby staring at me like a grown person?"

Adrienne Iapalucci 1:02:28 It's gotta be evil.

Joe Rogan 1:02:29 Right. You-

Adrienne Iapalucci 1:02:29 Anything at night like that, it's evil.

Joe Rogan 1:02:31 You would think it's a demon disguised as a baby.

Adrienne Iapalucci 1:02:32 And during the day, you're like, "Look at this baby. It's standing." (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:02:34 If I was a demon, I would disguise myself as a baby. It's a good move. Everybody thinks you're cute.

Adrienne Iapalucci 1:02:40 Or a cute dog.

Joe Rogan 1:02:42 Or a cute dog. Yeah.

Adrienne Iapalucci 1:02:44 Definitely not that whippet.

Joe Rogan 1:02:46 Yeah. They were kinda cute. They still had a cute face. You know, they didn't have a mean, like, pit bull-looking face. They had a, like, a cute whippet face.

Adrienne Iapalucci 1:02:53 Yeah, I know it was. I would pick something else over it.

Joe Rogan 1:02:54 They have cows like that, too.

Adrienne Iapalucci 1:02:56 Really?

Joe Rogan 1:02:56 Yeah.

Narrator 1:02:57 With 9-0 jacked. They look like-

Joe Rogan 1:02:58 Yeah, they cute.

Narrator 1:02:59 ... greyhounds, yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:02:59 Yeah, they do. Whippets are really fast too.

Adrienne Iapalucci 1:03:01 Wait, how come-

Joe Rogan 1:03:01 That's what they look like normal.

Adrienne Iapalucci 1:03:02 ... that looks like a greyhound?

Narrator 1:03:03 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 1:03:03 Yeah, real similar.

Adrienne Iapalucci 1:03:04 So what is the difference?

Joe Rogan 1:03:05 Little cutie. Look at that little cutie. Um, it's this myostatin inhibitor gene.

Adrienne Iapalucci 1:03:09 Ah.

Joe Rogan 1:03:09 This g- gene is fucked up on some of them. It's ... Oh, it's related to the greyhound.

Adrienne Iapalucci 1:03:15 It makes sense. It looks a lot like one.

Joe Rogan 1:03:16 And, and apart from its smaller size, closely res- resembles it. Sometimes described as a poor man's greyhound. Yeah, they're fast little fuckers. Um, what is that myostatin gene? Like, what does th- ... What, what causes that? Because it, it happens in cows too. They've had it i- in dairy cows. It's crazy, like to see a cow just fucking super hulked.

Adrienne Iapalucci 1:03:33 If you drink that milk, are you gonna get-

Joe Rogan 1:03:36 No.

Adrienne Iapalucci 1:03:36 ... ripped from it? (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:03:36 No, it's a gene thing.

Narrator 1:03:38 It's an inherited muscular disorder that they have to deal with.

Joe Rogan 1:03:42 Kids have had it too. Human kids have gotten it.

Narrator 1:03:44 Yeah.

Adrienne Iapalucci 1:03:44 Really?

Joe Rogan 1:03:44 Yeah. What's crazy, you see, like, a baby that looks like a bodybuilder. It's weird.

Narrator 1:03:48 It's 'cause it's a deficiency.

Joe Rogan 1:03:49 Deficiency? Yeah, it's a myostatin inhibitor. Myostatin deficiency whippet type is an inherited muscular disorder affecting whippets. Dogs that inherit two copies of the mutation associated with myostatin deficiency whippet type have broad chests and overly developed muscles, especially of the neck and legs, as well as an overbite. Um, see if you can find that in cows. Myostatin ... Just write myostatin cows. Yeah. See, look at that cow. (laughs) Look at the size of that dairy cow. That's a girl. Look how jacked she is. (laughs)

Adrienne Iapalucci 1:04:19 I wonder if that's more attractive to the bulls.

Joe Rogan 1:04:23 I wonder, right? Like-

Adrienne Iapalucci 1:04:24 Are they like, "That one's hot"?

Joe Rogan 1:04:24 ... bulls are gonna wanna ... Like a guy who's into CrossFit chicks.

Adrienne Iapalucci 1:04:27 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:04:28 Yeah. Look at that. Isn't that wild? Look at the size of that goddamn thing.

Adrienne Iapalucci 1:04:34 Yeah, it's huge.

Joe Rogan 1:04:34 Born without the protein myostatin. Yeah. So myostatin, I guess, is what, uh, regulates muscle growth. Or it has something to do with reg-

Adrienne Iapalucci 1:04:43 And if you don't have it, it's not regulated.

Joe Rogan 1:04:45 Yeah. That's why th- they were experimenting with that with human beings too, and I know i- I'm sure, like, Eastern Bloc countries are doing that for the Olympics and shit like that. I would imagine. But, um, yeah, they did it to mice. Look at the m- the musculature on these mice.

Adrienne Iapalucci 1:05:01 That's crazy.

Joe Rogan 1:05:01 What's crazy is they just skin these mice and we don't give a fuck 'cause they're mice.

Adrienne Iapalucci 1:05:04 If I saw one of those in my house, I'd move out.

Joe Rogan 1:05:07 Look at the fucking back on that dude. Um ... (laughs) What, what ... They've done it ... But, like, people have been born with it too. Uh, I know that there was, like, a German boy that was born with it. He was fucking jacked, like a little kid.

Adrienne Iapalucci 1:05:21 That's crazy.

Joe Rogan 1:05:22 Yeah. So, like, how's that kid gonna play sports? Like, what's gonna happen? That's not fair. It's like you're playing sports with The Hulk.

Adrienne Iapalucci 1:05:30 I mean ...

Joe Rogan 1:05:31 We'll find out in, like, 15 years.

Adrienne Iapalucci 1:05:34 Yeah. I guess we will.

Joe Rogan 1:05:35 Like, kid's gonna be, like, the greatest running back of all time. Like, (laughs) no one can stop him.

Adrienne Iapalucci 1:05:37 What if he's like, "I just, I just like playing chess. I really don't wanna be fr-

Joe Rogan 1:05:39 Right. (laughs)

Adrienne Iapalucci 1:05:40 "I don't wanna be on the football team."

Joe Rogan 1:05:41 He's like The Hulk playing chess. Yeah. But yeah, maybe, maybe he rebels 'cause everybody wants him to get into physical pursuits-

Adrienne Iapalucci 1:05:47 And he's like-

Joe Rogan 1:05:47 ... and he's like, "Fuck you." Yeah. Look at that kid, net- nuts. Vietnamese boy, so he's got it. That dude's gonna be popular in high school.

Adrienne Iapalucci 1:05:57 That is crazy.

Joe Rogan 1:05:58 Nuts. Isn't that nuts? Imagine going to school with that kid. You'd be so jealous. Like, goddammit.

Adrienne Iapalucci 1:06:04 Wouldn't you love it if he's your brother though and then he went and picks on you?

Joe Rogan 1:06:07 Unless your brother wants you to fucking eat shit. (laughs)

Adrienne Iapalucci 1:06:10 Well, that's true. He makes you eat shit, but he also sticks up for you at school.

Joe Rogan 1:06:13 Yeah, if he's a good brother, but if your brother's mean and he's got that, you're fucked.

Adrienne Iapalucci 1:06:18 I feel like you'd torture your ch- your brother or sister, but you don't let somebody else do it.

Joe Rogan 1:06:24 I know guys that had terrible brothers who beat them up all their life.

Adrienne Iapalucci 1:06:31 But do they let other people also beat them up?

Joe Rogan 1:06:34 If someone's beating you up b- but they protect you from being occasionally beaten up by others ...

Adrienne Iapalucci 1:06:39 It's the price you pay.

Joe Rogan 1:06:40 ... is that ... I'm not willing to make that. He was just sleep with ... in the same fucking house as that asshole who beats you up all the time.

Adrienne Iapalucci 1:06:45 Yeah, but your parents hopefully are there sometimes and they're stopping it sometimes. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:06:49 Oh, now you're unrealistic.

Adrienne Iapalucci 1:06:51 What if he's teaching a ... He's gonna make a fighter.

Joe Rogan 1:06:52 It depends on the parents. N- yeah. You do make fighters. That's what I'm talking about. A lot of the guys that I'm talking about are fighters. They were just really beaten up by their brothers.And they're the, they're the scariest guys, 'cause they're not afraid to fight, 'cause they fought their whole life.

Adrienne Iapalucci 1:07:05 And it doesn't matter if they're little, either.

Joe Rogan 1:07:07 Mm-hmm.

Adrienne Iapalucci 1:07:07 They're scrappy.

Joe Rogan 1:07:10 Yeah, one of the best guys ever in the UFC, Matt Hughes, (knocking sound) former welterweight champion, had a brother who was his twin. And they were both, like, elite wrestlers, and they both just beat the fuck out of each other. (laughs) And it led to him becoming the UFC Welterweight Champion of the World, and one of the-

Adrienne Iapalucci 1:07:25 See?

Joe Rogan 1:07:25 ... greatest of all time. I mean, that is-

Adrienne Iapalucci 1:07:28 It's just like the guy that went to prison and became a lawyer.

Joe Rogan 1:07:30 It can't happen that way. Yeah.

Adrienne Iapalucci 1:07:31 A negative turned into a positive.

Joe Rogan 1:07:33 Mm-hmm. Yeah, I can see it that way. (laughs) I knew another dude though, he got beat up by his brother and it just destroyed his confidence his whole life, his whole life. I became friends with him, like, in my 20s and-

Adrienne Iapalucci 1:07:46 That sucks.

Joe Rogan 1:07:47 It was a bummer, man. He could just, like, not get past it. He couldn't, you know... I wonder what, like if... And he'd never done MDMA. I hadn't either at the time. I wonder if that would've helped him in any way, just recognize what the root of it was, but it just, like, really fucked with his confidence. He would get, like, really close to getting good at stuff, but he almost had, like, this self-defense, self-sabotage thing that would kick in, because everybody had already, always taken things from him.

Adrienne Iapalucci 1:08:14 Oh, okay.

Joe Rogan 1:08:14 Like, it had al- it had always been like he thought things were gonna go well, and his brother just fucked it up and beat him up, or took things from him, humiliated him, and so he never felt like real success. So he was always scared to g- to, like, progress in life. So he'd always self-sabotage-

Adrienne Iapalucci 1:08:30 Right.

Joe Rogan 1:08:30 ... his life.

Adrienne Iapalucci 1:08:31 'Cause he just thought everything was gonna-

Joe Rogan 1:08:33 Yeah.

Adrienne Iapalucci 1:08:33 ... turn to shit.

Joe Rogan 1:08:33 But he was a good guy and a smart guy, and just trapped by this childhood, you know, repeated beatings that he got.

Adrienne Iapalucci 1:08:43 All right, Joe.

Joe Rogan 1:08:43 Yeah.

Adrienne Iapalucci 1:08:43 Well maybe it's not great always. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:08:46 (laughs)

Adrienne Iapalucci 1:08:46 Maybe it's not always gonna turn out well. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:08:48 Sometimes it's good, though. Sometimes it's good. Some- if the brother's a good guy, if you're both good, good people. Like, you know, brothers fight and they