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(drumbeats) Joe Rogan podcast,…
- JRJoe Rogan
(drumbeats) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out.
- NANarrator
The Joe Rogan Experience.
- DSDave Smith
Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night. All day. (instrumental music) What's up, brother?
- JRJoe Rogan
Good to see you, my friend.
- DSDave Smith
Good to be back.
- JRJoe Rogan
What's crackalackin'?
- DSDave Smith
Oh, I'm just having fun, dude. Great time at Mothership last night.
- JRJoe Rogan
Last, last ... That was a good time.
- DSDave Smith
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
That place is always a good time.
- DSDave Smith
Yeah. I can't wait to go back tonight.
- JRJoe Rogan
Magical portal.
- DSDave Smith
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
Fun, fun. Great fucking crowds too. The crowds were amazing.
- DSDave Smith
Yeah. Just incredible. Every time I've been there, and I've been there-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- DSDave Smith
... a decent amount now, always great crowds.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. It's, it's a fun place. Build it and they will come.
- DSDave Smith
Yeah. Well, you sure did.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. Yeah.
- DSDave Smith
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. So, uh, we were, uh, on our way over here and I texted you that Prigozhin thing.
- DSDave Smith
Mm-hmm.
- JRJoe Rogan
Wild. But not unexpected.
- DSDave Smith
Well, yeah. Y-
- JRJoe Rogan
Is he definitely dead? Is he definitely-
- DSDave Smith
I, I don't think it's definitely. I think this is what people are reporting. I mean the-
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- DSDave Smith
... the plane just went down. I, I wouldn't say definitely yet. Um, but I think a lot of us did expect, after he kind of flirted with a mutiny against Vladimir Putin and then they kind of came to an agreement and he leaves, you're like, "I don't think that guy has very long to live."
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- 15:00 – 30:00
Right. …
- DSDave Smith
if you're cheating on your wife and then she's like, uh, you know, like you're cheating on her and then she's like, "I know Friday when you were out, I know you were cheating on me," and you weren't that Friday, cheating on her. Like, even though she's wrong, she's really right. Like, she might be wrong about that specific day, but she knows-
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- DSDave Smith
... su- she knows you're d-
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- DSDave Smith
Like, like they know this whole thing is illegitimate and like, "You stole it."
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- DSDave Smith
And, and they really did. Um, they, they really did. I mean, they suppressed the October bombshell that would have very likely tipped the election in, in Trump's favor.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- DSDave Smith
And tried to make it seem again that Russia was, you know, stealing our elections, which another, you know, is another major factor in the whole Russia-Ukraine conflict. That first of all, what a, what an insane provocation of Russia it was for the last six years to have not just people in the corporate press, but like the head, the former head of the CIA, you know, like on TV all, every day saying, "Russia attacked our democracy. They ov- they, they interfered in our election and were ..." And then also claiming that they were in a partnership with Donald Trump to steal it from, uh, Hillary Clinton. And I heard, uh, uh, senators and congressmen and every media pundit, people from the FBI, the CIA constantly saying on TV that this was an act of war by Russia. That Russia d- dr- they would say it's worse than Pearl Harbor what they did. And so if you're ... From the Russian perspective, you're sitting there and you see the most war-hungry country in the world, the country that in the last 20 years has fought seven wars, s- s- you know, led to the deaths of hundreds of thousands of people, destroyed nations, and they're out there saying, "You just committed an act of war against us." I mean, like, that's a, that's quite an aggressive posture, particularly when they all knew it was bullshit. They all knew from the very beginning. And so you had all of that and then they tried to do it again in 2020, claimed this was a Russian operation to, to, you know, interfere in the election. And meanwhile, all of it was actually a US intelligence agencies' operation to interfere in the election.
- JRJoe Rogan
(sighs)
- DSDave Smith
Just from the other side.
- JRJoe Rogan
It's so crazy. It's so crazy that this is a, not a mainstream narrative and that the news ignores this. They also ignore during the debates when Joe Biden was saying that, "You know, my son didn't make any money over there and I didn't-"
- DSDave Smith
Mm-hmm.
- JRJoe Rogan
"... I have nothing to do with my son's business." Like, it's all lies. It's all easily proven. And there's nothing.
- DSDave Smith
Yeah. And of course if Trump, you know, like, the, the moderator doesn't push back during that debate and say, um, "Excuse me, uh, Mr. Biden, that's just not true."
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- DSDave Smith
Like, we know that there's no pushback on that. They just let him get away with it. And he gets to stand up there and say, "Hey, look, all of these intelligence, uh, officials, they tell m- they're, they're backing up my story,"-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- DSDave Smith
"... that y- that this laptop is Russian disinformation." And I'll t- I don't know exactly what it is now, but I remember there were, um, they had like opinion polls on this after the Mueller investigation, and it's still an enormously high percentage of Democratic voters believe that Trump and Russia were in, uh, uh, Trump and Putin were involved in a conspiracy-
- JRJoe Rogan
Headline readers.
- DSDave Smith
... to steal the election. They still believe it to this day.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- DSDave Smith
Because they heard Trump-Russia collusion every day nonstop, and that is a huge part of why they support this war, uh, i- in Ukraine. Because they think we're fighting the country who overthrew our democracy-
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- DSDave Smith
... and gave us Donald Trump for four years. It's all just complete bullshit, but they believe it.
- JRJoe Rogan
It's crazy how prevalent it is because people are just headline readers.
- DSDave Smith
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
And the mainstream news is completely captured.
- DSDave Smith
Yeah. And, you know, to some degree, I don't... I, I'm sympathetic to people who get, you know, propagandized by this stuff because we do, in general, in life, we outsource the overwhelming majority of knowledge to other people. You know? Like, when my, like, hot water heater broke down and I just hire a guy to replace it, I don't know anything about hot water heaters but I just trust... I don't know. You know. I don't know.
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- 30:00 – 45:00
Yeah. …
- JRJoe Rogan
trying to bring him into full conspiracy-
- DSDave Smith
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
... tinfoil hat. And he is going, "No. That's not what I said." And he said something that's factual and she just sort of, like, pretended it didn't get said-
- DSDave Smith
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
... and kept... I mean, that's a real fucking issue. They lied about whether or not Saudi Arabia was involved.
- DSDave Smith
It's one of the biggest scandals in the history of the United States of America. It was, like, the biggest terrorist attack on our soil and the government lied about what had happened and who was involved with it. And, and by the way, continued propping up that regime to this day, continued, like, funding and doing business with the same government that had high level people involved in the attack. And they knew it and suppressed that from the American people 'cause it would have been... You know, e- e- if you put yourself back in that time-... it would have been such an outrage if the, if Americans had known.
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- DSDave Smith
And in fact, one of the first things, uh, George W. Bush did, immediately after 9/11, even when all the flights were grounded, was get, uh, high level Saudis out of the country, was to fly them out of the country. And this is all factual. Like this, this happened. It's not disputed.
- JRJoe Rogan
Including members of Bin Laden's family.
- DSDave Smith
Yeah, yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
J- the whole thing is so wild, and it doesn't get discussed. They keep going back to the company narrative. What, what's the ideological left narrative? The, the left narrative is anybody who questions 9/11 is a nutter, and you're a nutter, and you're trying to run for President. And he does a very good job of, she repeats the question, he repeats the answer. She repeats the question, he repeats the answer. And she's trying to catch him in this, and it's like... See if you can find that.
- NANarrator
I did. So I, (clears throat) I'm looking it up, and what I'm seeing online is that there's, the story has turned a little bit, that The Atlantic has posted audio from the interview.
- JRJoe Rogan
Ah.
- NANarrator
So-
- JRJoe Rogan
He was asking for that audio, and they didn't give-
- NANarrator
Yeah, so they released it, and it says The Atlantic did not put any words in his mouth. I'm trying to find the audio so we could play it, but it's behind a paywall.
- JRJoe Rogan
So he was saying that they put words in his mouth?
- NANarrator
Yeah, so, but then what I'm also seeing then in The Daily Beast article is that, uh, despite them releasing the audio, it says Ramaswamy's campaign somehow declared victory.
- JRJoe Rogan
Hm.
- NANarrator
So they're saying he's, I guess they're saying he said it, but his team is also saying it's still been taken out of context.
- DSDave Smith
But, but what are they claiming that he said?
- JRJoe Rogan
What did he say?
- NANarrator
I don't, I'm trying to find-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- NANarrator
... the transcript, and I haven't gotten that far. Y- uh, it's behind a paywall again, so I don't-
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, let's, let's listen to his interview on CNN.
- NANarrator
Uh...
- JRJoe Rogan
Because the things that, it's interesting, like... We'll, we'll f- we'll figure this out. Here.
- NANarrator
All right, this is...
- JRJoe Rogan
Why is it not giving you any volume?
- 45:00 – 1:00:00
Yeah. …
- DSDave Smith
he has information that, that... You see that?
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- DSDave Smith
Uh, he said, he said he talked to like high-level, uh, NSA guys. I'm sorry, uh, TSA guys, um, who told him that like masks in airports are coming back and that there's gonna be a big ramp up in COVID. And I was really hoping this would fall into the Alex Jones wasn't right category. I still am. But it was really weird that after he said that, for the next few days, everybody in the corporate press is talking about COVID again-
- JRJoe Rogan
Not only that-
- DSDave Smith
... and talking about this new strain.
- JRJoe Rogan
... there's a mask mandate that got passed at one college.
- DSDave Smith
Right.
- JRJoe Rogan
And then Lionsgate passed a... They, they instituted a mask mandate for all their employees.
- DSDave Smith
Yeah. Yeah, man.
- JRJoe Rogan
Which is wild.
- DSDave Smith
I really... I have a hard time imagining that they would really try to ramp the COVID thing back up. Also, all of the, uh, all of the science seems to indicate that this new strain is less deadly than even Omicron was. And so, like, what are we even talking about here? But they're trying to push another round of boosters. They're already... I saw there was a Pfizer, uh, uh, spokesman on, uh, CNN the other day going, "This is why you really need to get this, uh, this, this latest booster." And they say, "Does this booster protect against the newest variant?" And he, and he said, "Um, it, it looks like it does." Just going, "Hmm, it looks like it does." Okay.
- JRJoe Rogan
"It looks like it does."
- DSDave Smith
That, that's, that's what you've got for us now? Not even this like... It's, it's, it's so funny how far it's fallen. It's not just like, "If you take this vaccine, you won't get it and you can't transmit it."
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- DSDave Smith
"Listen, it's 95% effective. It's totally safe and effective. It'll definitely..." But, and that now it's just like, uh, "Looks good. Shoot another one, man."
- JRJoe Rogan
"Shh..." Well, the-
- DSDave Smith
"What are the effects of taking eight mRNA vaccines in, in two years? I don't know. Looks good. Take it."
- JRJoe Rogan
(sighs)
- DSDave Smith
That's where they're at.
- JRJoe Rogan
But there's enough people out there that are just headline readers that are gonna l- listen to that, that haven't had these discussions, that don't know this information, that are just gonna take it.
- DSDave Smith
Well, yes. But, uh, there are some things that are encouraging. You know, to me it's very, it's very encouraging how much noise RFK has been making and that he's been like even within the Democratic, uh, primary, he was polling at like 20% in, in several polls amongst Democratic voters. Like okay, that's something. And if you look at the rate of, um, the vaccination rate, it was the initial double jab and the Johnson & Johnson, like when they initially rolled it out, they got up to I think somewhere in the neighborhood of like 75% of the adult population got it, and this was with a lot of coercion, you know, not just like people just got it. It's like a lot of people had their jobs threatened if they didn't get it, um, and had pressure from family and stuff like that. Um, and then if you look at the boost, the rate, the first booster, it was like half of that. And then the next round of boosters, it was like way lower than that. So, most of the American people maybe did get the original double jab, but they have not been buying into this like booster regime of like, "I have to keep getting more and more."
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, they all probably got COVID too.
- DSDave Smith
Mm-hmm.
- JRJoe Rogan
And they probably got it pretty bad. You know, there's probably quite a few people at least that got it. I mean, that's the Cleveland Clinic, uh, statistics which are really interesting. That's the study they did on the healthcare workers that showed that the more jabs you got, the more likely you were to get COVID.
- DSDave Smith
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Which is so crazy.
- DSDave Smith
Yeah, which is really, uh, scary. And there's, there, there was a lot of, um, there, there was a lot of scientific arguments that were made even before that, that were like there's a real concern that this is the case.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- DSDave Smith
That in fact the, the vaccine is essentially tricking your natural like, um, your natural response.
- JRJoe Rogan
Including Hotez said that.
- 1:00:00 – 1:15:00
Yeah. …
- DSDave Smith
surely either gotten COVID or figured out how to protect themselves from getting COVID. You know what I mean? There was just no-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- DSDave Smith
There was no argument that, like-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- DSDave Smith
... they must get the vaccine.
- JRJoe Rogan
Right. Yeah. Yeah.
- DSDave Smith
It was a nutty time, man.
- JRJoe Rogan
Very.
- DSDave Smith
And it still is. It still is. I mean, this stuff, this stuff with Trump, you know, he's, uh, tomorrow supposed to, uh-
- JRJoe Rogan
Turn himself in.
- DSDave Smith
He's turning himself in in Georgia. And I'm not sure exactly. I was reading about it, uh, yesterday. And it's not exactly clear, I guess, 'cause the deal hasn't been made, but it was something like a, like a $200,000 bond is what they were saying. And then, um, I... It looks like he's gonna have to actually go into the jail. So they're gonna... I think they're gonna book him. I think that means mugshots, um, which is-
- JRJoe Rogan
Really?
- DSDave Smith
... which is, I, I think something that they're going for. I think they like the optics of that a lot. Um...
- JRJoe Rogan
Trump has already agreed to a $200,000 bond with certain conditions, including limits on social media posts.
- DSDave Smith
Now that's a really interesting one.
- JRJoe Rogan
Wow. Limits on social media posts about the case, but if he violates it, judges may have limited enforcement options.
- DSDave Smith
That's interesting.
- JRJoe Rogan
Interesting.
- DSDave Smith
So this is, this is one thing that's much different than any of the other indictments. This is the first time that a judge has said... And, you know, they can do this crazy stuff that seems wildly unconstitutional and just a very basic violation of liberty. It's insane to me. But they can have, like, these gag orders, you know, like Roger Stone when, when he was first charged, was not allowed to speak about it. Like, you can't defend yourself publicly.
- JRJoe Rogan
Wow.
- DSDave Smith
You can't speak about the case, and they're allowed to do this. They go, "We'll throw you in jail if you speak about it." Um, it's kind of like this weird system where once they agree, they kind of have the right to keep you in jail until your trial.... legally. Um, and so if they l- l- release you, they can say, "Well, these are the conditions." And it can-
- JRJoe Rogan
Wow.
- DSDave Smith
... kind of be anything, you know? Um, but the idea that you could say, "Well, okay, you can't defend yourself publicly," you know, "You can't post on Truth Social or Twitter or whatever about this-"
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- DSDave Smith
... is such a weird thing. U- part- if you believe in liberty at all, it's a weird thing, 'cause l- liberty is kind of predicated on the presumption of innocence. Like if you're not, if you don't have the presumption of innocence, then there's no such thing as freedom. I mean, you could say we have freedom, but if I accuse you of something, you're guilty-
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- DSDave Smith
... then you don't have any freedom. So d- m- w- supposedly, inno- we're innocent till proven guilty. So Trump's innocent of these charges, and yet they can still tell you you're not allowed to post this, you're not allowed to say this. But what's particularly interesting in this case is that this just smells a lot like election interference. Because from the political standpoint, if this is the biggest national story of a presidential race and Joe Biden can say whatever he wants about it, or the Democrats can say whatever they want about it, but Trump isn't allowed to defend himself, like he's not allowed to comment on it at all?
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- DSDave Smith
That seems like e- you're rigging the system.
- NANarrator
It sounds like the conditions are more about it says intimidating witnesses and stuff like that.
- 1:15:00 – 1:15:39
Section 6
- DSDave Smith
if this whole country falls apart. And we're dangerously, like we're getting dangerously close to that point. And look man, when it comes down to it, it's like the- the reason why America is the most successful country that's ever existed is because it- it was the freest country, and that's the beautiful thing. Like freedom is not only the most like moral, uh, system, but it also, like, leads to the most prosperity. It leads to the most harmony. Like ci- it's what civilized behavior is, right? Like the essence of civilized behavior is essentially the non-aggression principle, the idea that, like, you respect people and their property, and you don't... You know what I mean? Like you're not-
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