Joe Rogan Experience #2031 - Luis J. Gomez

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Luis J. Gomez 0:12 Are we on? Are we just on?

Joe Rogan 0:13 Are we on?

Narrator 0:15 Yeah.

Luis J. Gomez 0:15 Sweet. All right. I didn't know if we were talking on the podcast or just being dudes. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 0:19 Yeah. (laughs) That's the beautiful thing about podcasts ...

Luis J. Gomez 0:21 It really is, yeah.

Joe Rogan 0:22 ... is kind of just hanging.

Luis J. Gomez 0:23 Yeah. Um, but yeah, I- I- I smoked weed since I was like 17, um, and it was illegal. And you just-

Joe Rogan 0:31 Yeah.

Luis J. Gomez 0:31 All these like formative years spending my life being afraid that a cop was going to come and arrest me. And I've been arrested for smoking weed like 10 times in New York City.

Joe Rogan 0:40 Wow.

Luis J. Gomez 0:41 Because I'm an idiot and I just, you know-

Joe Rogan 0:42 Right.

Luis J. Gomez 0:43 Uh, and it's just a game of numbers. I would just- we would roll a blunt in the park, you smoke it, and every time for some reason the cop would always take me. All my friends they'd be like, "You know, we gotta take one of you." And it was always- and I'm the only brown kid in the group.

Joe Rogan 0:53 Oh.

Luis J. Gomez 0:53 So every single time they were like, "We're gonna take you."

Joe Rogan 0:56 Oh.

Luis J. Gomez 0:56 And then they'd take you to central bookings for a day.

Joe Rogan 0:59 Oh.

Luis J. Gomez 0:59 And, uh-

Joe Rogan 0:59 They would literally say, "I have to take one of you?"

Luis J. Gomez 1:00 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:01 Oh my God.

Luis J. Gomez 1:02 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:02 And none of your friends go, "Hey, you got Louis the last three times. I'm not gonna get in there."

Luis J. Gomez 1:05 Not once.

Joe Rogan 1:06 (laughs)

Luis J. Gomez 1:06 Dave Smith- I- I've been arrested- I was, uh- I was arrested three separate times and Dave Smith watched me get put into the back of a car and he was like, "Bye."

Joe Rogan 1:14 Oh God.

Luis J. Gomez 1:14 Yeah. Yeah. Um, but yeah, and then I remember I went to Amsterdam when I was 22 and it was the first time I ever smoked legal weed. And I just me- I was like, "This is- this is great. This is the way it should be." It was nuts. I was just like smoking in the street, I was talking to a cop, I was on mushrooms. I was like, "This is so peaceful and nice." And then I came back and I remember I- I was in a stairwell smoking a blunt like the day I got back and I was like, "This is fucking- a wild thing." And then here we are years later in New York City, it's legal. There's literally- uh, you could buy weed in just delis on every corner in New York City now. It's crazy.

Joe Rogan 1:47 Yeah. It- I remember the switch in California because for a while I was medical, so I used to have to go to a doctor and the doctor would go, "Oh, you need weed." And then he writes some shit down on a piece of paper and then you could buy weed.

Luis J. Gomez 1:58 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:59 And I used to go to this place called the Inglewood Wellness Center, which was in Inglewood and it's, you know, shady area. And back then, I don't know if it was credit cards yet. I don't- I think they might have been able to use credit cards, but I know they also had a lot of cash on them and they got robbed and the guy that I used to buy weed from got shot.

Luis J. Gomez 2:19 Oh shit.

Joe Rogan 2:19 And I was like, "All right."

Luis J. Gomez 2:20 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 2:20 "Done- done with that spot. Gonna have to find a new spot." But there wasn't that many spots. You would have to like find these places and they looked like shut down stores. Like most of the places that were dispensaries-

Luis J. Gomez 2:31 Hm.

Joe Rogan 2:31 ... they were like super low key, like you had to know people. And you would go in there and, uh, you know, there'd be some fucking doctor. (laughs) Like one time I went to this doctor and he had dreadlocks and this dude's had like long dreads and he had a volcano bag, you know one of them volcano vaporizers bags?

Luis J. Gomez 2:47 Yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 2:47 But it was like an extra long bag. And we walk into the dispensary and he's like, "Man, you need medicine."

Luis J. Gomez 2:54 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 2:55 He just immediately-

Luis J. Gomez 2:56 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 2:56 He goes, "You need some medicine." I go, "Yes sir, I do. Thank you."

Luis J. Gomez 3:00 (laughs) I'm very sick.

Joe Rogan 3:01 (laughs) I'm very sick. And he took us to the grow room. I don't know if you've ever been in a grow room when you're high.

Luis J. Gomez 3:06 No.

Joe Rogan 3:07 But they seem to be intelligent. There's an odd feeling that you get when you're high on marijuana and you walk into a grow room filled with like hundreds of plants. It was a big ass room with lights, you know, hydroponic lights, whatever, hanging from the sky. And, um, it just has a weird feel to it.

Luis J. Gomez 3:28 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 3:28 It has a weird feel, like not a regular room. It doesn't feel like you're walking into a room. It feels like you're walking into a room with beings.

Luis J. Gomez 3:35 Oh really?

Joe Rogan 3:36 Yeah. Like they feel alive in a weird way.

Luis J. Gomez 3:39 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 3:39 And I know-

Luis J. Gomez 3:40 That's-

Joe Rogan 3:40 I know I'm- I know I was super high.

Luis J. Gomez 3:42 That's good weed that you have.

Joe Rogan 3:44 I mean, vaporizer pack, but it felt real because it didn't feel like that when I was in the other room.

Luis J. Gomez 3:48 Right.

Joe Rogan 3:49 When I was in the other room where they had just like couches and shit, you know, seemed normal. And then we- he takes us back and we go into this back room and I'm like, "Whoa." Like these things are conscious.

Luis J. Gomez 4:00 Well, they say that. Don't they say plants are conscious to a certain degree?

Joe Rogan 4:02 Yeah, yeah.

Luis J. Gomez 4:02 If you like sing to them and talk to them or if you yell at them they don't grow or-

Joe Rogan 4:05 Yeah.

Luis J. Gomez 4:06 I- I don't know. They do like experiments with shit where like people are like nice to plants. I've seen it on like TikTok and like Reels.

Joe Rogan 4:12 I've never looked into that.

Luis J. Gomez 4:14 Yeah, it has to be bullshit. There's no way if you're just nice to a plant it grows better.

Joe Rogan 4:17 Well how do you- what an unethical, uh, experiment because then you'd have to be really mean to another plant.

Luis J. Gomez 4:22 Yeah. (laughs) Just really- really racist to the plant.

Joe Rogan 4:24 Just fucking ficus, piece of shit.

Luis J. Gomez 4:27 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 4:27 I fucking hate ficuses.

Luis J. Gomez 4:29 Uh-

Joe Rogan 4:29 I kill them every time I find them.

Luis J. Gomez 4:31 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 4:32 Ooh.

Luis J. Gomez 4:32 Not in my yard.

Joe Rogan 4:33 And he's just stuck in the dirt in your house.

Luis J. Gomez 4:35 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 4:35 Ugh. If pro- plants really are conscious and they're stuck in the dirt in peoples' houses and the people are doing meth and shooting each other, these plants would be like, "I gotta get the fuck out of here."

Luis J. Gomez 4:47 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 4:47 "How am I stuck in this house?"

Luis J. Gomez 4:48 It's like that, uh, what's that Metallica video? One where the guy's like just stuck in the bed and he could- but he's conscious and he could hear everything. It's- it's from a famous movie, I think.

Joe Rogan 4:56 I don't remember that.

Luis J. Gomez 4:57 You know the- he's like- you- dude, you definitely remember this. It's such a famous video. It's the Metallica one video. It was Johnny Get- Johnny Get Your Gun or something, is the movie. And it was a guy, I guess he- he was hurt in war. Yeah. And he- he was conscious and he could hear everything, but he couldn't communicate.

Joe Rogan 5:13 Oh wow.

Luis J. Gomez 5:17 You know, it's, uh ... This is the life of a houseplant right here. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 5:25 Dude, Metallica had some bangers.

Luis J. Gomez 5:27 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 5:28 But the thing is though, it's like they know that they communicate with each other. That's what's really fascinating. They communicate with each other through the mycelium in the ground.

Luis J. Gomez 5:37 Wow.

Joe Rogan 5:37 So it's- it does say they grow- they grow better. Look, it says for most plants, playing classical or jazz music caused growth to increase while harsher metal music induced stress.

Luis J. Gomez 5:47 Wow.

Joe Rogan 5:48 This may be because the vibrations of metal music are too intense for plants and stimulate cells a little too much. We think of this as me- massaging your plant with a song. They prefer a gentler touch. But how do we know-

Luis J. Gomez 5:59 (laughs) I wanna know the boring bitch who wrote this article.

Joe Rogan 6:02 A gentle touch. How do we not know that it's not that at all? How do we not... I mean, that's, uh, an assumption that's, like, minimalizing their ability to recognize what's going on. 'Cause right, like, put that up again, like, how it's explained. Because the way it's explained, it's like, here it says, "This may be 'cause the vibrations of metal music are too intense for plants and stimulate cells a little too much." Like, how do you know? How do you know the plant just doesn't si- think that music sucks?

Luis J. Gomez 6:33 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 6:34 Could you imagine? It's like, you know when they were t-

Luis J. Gomez 6:36 Yeah. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 6:36 ... when they were torturing Noriega-

Luis J. Gomez 6:38 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 6:38 ... they would fucking just blare horrible music at him.

Luis J. Gomez 6:42 Yeah. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 6:42 Forever. Remember that?

Luis J. Gomez 6:44 Yeah, they did that with, uh, it was, uh, the, uh... What was the big group that was like, there was like a standoff, and then they did it with Billy Ray Cyrus's song, Achy Breaky Heart.

Joe Rogan 6:53 (laughs)

Luis J. Gomez 6:53 There was some, yeah, there was some, like, some, like-

Joe Rogan 6:56 (laughs)

Luis J. Gomez 6:56 ... some dude who had, like, a bunch of people captive, and they played Achy Breaky Heart to-

Joe Rogan 7:00 Oh, God.

Luis J. Gomez 7:01 ... to fuck with him, yeah.

Joe Rogan 7:02 I do have to say, though, uh, that at least it shows a sense of humor by the police.

Luis J. Gomez 7:06 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 7:06 I think that's pretty funny.

Luis J. Gomez 7:07 That's fucking hilarious.

Joe Rogan 7:08 That's funny.

Luis J. Gomez 7:08 Yeah. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 7:09 You fucking kid. Play bad music and this, till this dude fucking moves out of the house-

Luis J. Gomez 7:13 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 7:13 ... with the hostages. (laughs) But I know-

Luis J. Gomez 7:16 That's good.

Joe Rogan 7:16 ... they, they did it with, uh, I'm 99% sure they did it with Noriega. I forget what the songs were though. See what they did with Manuel Noriega 'cause I'm pretty sure they surrounded his house in Panama and just played horrible music.

Luis J. Gomez 7:30 Yeah. Let's see. I Fought The Law.

Joe Rogan 7:33 Oh, that's pretty good. The Clash? Shit. Panama by the Stadium.

Luis J. Gomez 7:36 I guess any song over and over and over again would drive you out of your mind.

Joe Rogan 7:39 They played Panama by Van Halen, U2's All I Want Is You, Bruce Cockburn's If I Had a Rocket Launcher, and they just kept playing it over and over again?

Narrator 7:50 Yeah, The Howard Stern Show.

Joe Rogan 7:51 Oh, and The Howard Stern Show.

Luis J. Gomez 7:52 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 7:53 So at least they gave him some entertainment while he's contemplating death.

Luis J. Gomez 7:56 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 7:56 Is he dead?

Narrator 7:58 Noriega?

Joe Rogan 7:58 Yeah. Did they kill him, or did he, uh, go to jail?

Narrator 8:04 Uh...

Joe Rogan 8:05 That's... That might be even more wild than when they killed him.

Narrator 8:08 Yeah, he's dead 2017, yeah.

Joe Rogan 8:09 They take these dictators, and they just stick them in a cell. Bye-bye.

Luis J. Gomez 8:12 Never hear of them again.

Joe Rogan 8:13 Bye-bye.

Luis J. Gomez 8:13 And then it stops being a news story, and nobody cares.

Joe Rogan 8:15 Yeah, bye-bye.

Luis J. Gomez 8:15 Yep.

Joe Rogan 8:16 Bye-bye, mister person who ran country.

Luis J. Gomez 8:18 Have you ever been in, uh, a jail cell, Joe?

Joe Rogan 8:21 No.

Luis J. Gomez 8:22 You've never been arrested for anything ever?

Joe Rogan 8:23 Nope, never.

Luis J. Gomez 8:24 Damn.

Joe Rogan 8:25 Noriega's mugshot after a surrender to US forces in 1990, age 56. How many people had that guy killed?

Luis J. Gomez 8:33 You never even been in cuffs?

Joe Rogan 8:35 No.

Luis J. Gomez 8:36 Damn.

Joe Rogan 8:37 I'm a good boy.

Luis J. Gomez 8:38 You are a good boy. I- it's, it's the worst.

Joe Rogan 8:42 I could only imagine.

Luis J. Gomez 8:42 And I-

Joe Rogan 8:42 I'm always very respectful to cops.

Luis J. Gomez 8:45 I'm super respectful to cops too because at that point, they're arresting me, and I wanna get out-

Joe Rogan 8:48 Yay.

Luis J. Gomez 8:49 I wanna get off with a warning. I've never done anything real. Like, I've never done a real crime.

Joe Rogan 8:53 Right.

Luis J. Gomez 8:53 It's always for smoking weed or-

Joe Rogan 8:56 They should expunge all those.

Luis J. Gomez 8:58 They did.

Joe Rogan 8:59 They should-

Luis J. Gomez 8:59 They did.

Joe Rogan 8:59 They always should with everybody with that. We should wake up as a country and realize those laws are immoral. They don't make any sense. Everybody know what-

Luis J. Gomez 9:06 I couldn't go to Canada for, for years I couldn't go to Canada.

Joe Rogan 9:08 If we can drink, why can't we smoke?

Luis J. Gomez 9:10 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 9:10 It makes zero sense. You guys are out, you're out of your minds. You don't smoke weed. You don't know what you're talking about. It's, you, it's like that's part of the problem is that the people that are making these laws, they don't have any experience with these drugs.

Luis J. Gomez 9:25 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 9:25 You know, I'm good.

Luis J. Gomez 9:26 Good.

Joe Rogan 9:27 There's like a certain... I think you should know what you're talking about. And if we lie about it, then people are gonna be more likely to ab- to abuse it 'cause they're not gonna think there's any problems.

Luis J. Gomez 9:39 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 9:40 You gotta be, like, fully straightforward with it. It's probably one of the safest drugs you could use if you're not a schizophrenic.

Luis J. Gomez 9:48 Are they-

Joe Rogan 9:48 If you're not a person who has, like, that, that fucking missing screw-

Luis J. Gomez 9:52 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 9:52 ... and then the weed takes you over the top.

Luis J. Gomez 9:54 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 9:55 'Cause there's a few of those guys.

Luis J. Gomez 9:56 Yeah, I mean, I know some people that they're not good on it. I know I'm probably better as a human when I'm not smoking weed just in terms of productivity, just in terms of like-

Joe Rogan 10:06 Hmm.

Luis J. Gomez 10:06 ... just being a little bit sharper, but I'm also miserable and depressed and fucking anxious. So, it's like a, it's a trade-off, you know.

Joe Rogan 10:15 I like to walk the dance. I like to walk the dance between high and sobriety. I like it. I like both of them. And I think this idea... I mean, look, if you're a person who's an alcoholic, sobriety is your choice. That's the way to go for sure, and you don't need it. And, look, you could, you can get high doing yoga. You, you could feel pretty good when you run. But if you can handle it, and if it's for you, it provides you, like, a different window to the world, and I think it changes and shapes the way you think about things.

Luis J. Gomez 10:46 Uh, I agree with that.

Joe Rogan 10:47 I like it.

Luis J. Gomez 10:47 But I think the just the difference in thinking does that as well. So if I... I, I smoke all day every day, right? So if I stop smoking for, like, a week, it's like I'm seeing the world differently.

Joe Rogan 10:58 Your brain gets to clear out a little bit.

Luis J. Gomez 11:00 Yeah, yeah, and it's just a different perspective.

Joe Rogan 11:02 Yeah.

Luis J. Gomez 11:02 It's kinda good to do that. I'm, uh... Yeah, I just... And then the other thing, now that I'm getting older, I'm 41 now, I still don't... I, I mean, I could probably research this, does weed just not cause cancer?

Joe Rogan 11:13 (laughs)

Luis J. Gomez 11:13 Does it not, like... And nobody's talking about weed giving them fucking cancer. I smoke a lot of fucking weed, and I'm just in my head about it. I'm like, "Dude, I'm gonna get lung cancer 'cause I've been smoking blunts and weed for so long."

Joe Rogan 11:23 It doesn't seem to, and I don't know why it wouldn't if cigarettes do.

Luis J. Gomez 11:29 Do you know...

Joe Rogan 11:29 Now, now, there, here's a question. Is there a difference between those natural cigarettes that people enjoy, like those American Spirits-

Luis J. Gomez 11:37 No.

Joe Rogan 11:37 ... and, like, Marlboros?

Luis J. Gomez 11:38 Dude, I don't think they're natural. American... That's just, that's good branding 'cause they even have Joe Rogan going, "Dude, those natural cig..." They're not nat- it's the same shit.

Joe Rogan 11:44 Yeah, but it says the name of them, isn't it?

Luis J. Gomez 11:45 It's the American Spirit, dude. I think it's just some-

Joe Rogan 11:47 Oh.

Luis J. Gomez 11:48 We assume they're natural 'cause American Indians make them, I think.

Joe Rogan 11:50 Is there a bunch of shit in there? Our research shows the majority of natural American Spirit smokers incorrectly believe-

Luis J. Gomez 11:56 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 11:56 ... that their cigarettes are safer than other cigarettes. The truth out there, they're just as dangerous as any other cigarette.

Luis J. Gomez 12:02 Yeah, dude, that's... I, I always thought-

Joe Rogan 12:04 Yeah, it's a cigarette.

Luis J. Gomez 12:04 ... like light cigarettes were safer, and they're not at all.

Joe Rogan 12:08 ... no, that's probably even worse. Like, what is in those... Okay, what are menthols? Like, what's going on there?

Luis J. Gomez 12:13 I don't even know.

Joe Rogan 12:14 What is going on? They're trying to outlaw that in California.

Luis J. Gomez 12:17 Yeah, well because it's like-

Joe Rogan 12:17 Did they outlaw it?

Luis J. Gomez 12:18 They... I think they did a lot because they, they say it's, they're going after like... Any of the flavored tobacco shit, um, like, you can't get flavored blunt wraps in New York City anymore because the, they're... I guess the angle is they're saying that kids are more likely to buy flavored stuff, um, which is just-

Joe Rogan 12:34 (sighs)

Luis J. Gomez 12:34 I think that's kind of stupid as well.

Joe Rogan 12:36 What about flavored liquor?

Luis J. Gomez 12:38 Yeah. Yeah. Well, you're not-

Joe Rogan 12:40 How, how come-

Luis J. Gomez 12:40 ... taking away anyone's liquor anymore.

Joe Rogan 12:41 How come you can still have flavored liquor though?

Luis J. Gomez 12:43 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 12:43 What are you talking about? Like, there's syrupy liquor.

Luis J. Gomez 12:46 Yeah. Yeah, all the smoking laws are kind of good too in a weird way, though. All they do, they, uh... 'Cause I smoked cigarettes in New York when they started. They were just like, "We're gonna just charge you a fucking crazy amount for cigarettes." It went up, it went from, like, $3 a pack of cigarettes to, like, $15 a pack in, like, a year. And they just priced a lot of people out. I was just too broke to fucking spend $15 per pack of cigarettes. It was crazy. It was like-

Joe Rogan 13:11 Wow.

Luis J. Gomez 13:11 ... $0.75 per cigarette as, like, a broke young kid in New York City. It's just wasn't going to happen. So they made it the, the age 21 and then they started charging a fucking arm and a leg for it and just kids just couldn't afford them anymore. So I think a lot less kids are smoking today because of all that shit, um, but, yeah, I mean, when I moved to New York City, you could still smoke inside of bars and then they changed that like a year later and I remember being like, "No, this is crazy. Who cares about the employees health?"

Joe Rogan 13:38 (laughs)

Luis J. Gomez 13:38 I don't give a fuck, dude.

Joe Rogan 13:40 People did get upset that they couldn't smoke indoors.

Luis J. Gomez 13:43 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 13:43 I remember when you go to comedy clubs, they were filled with smoke. Every table had an ashtray.

Luis J. Gomez 13:48 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 13:48 They were filled with smoke. But you would hear stories about, like, waitresses that didn't even smoke and they would get cancer.

Luis J. Gomez 13:56 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 13:56 That's when it gets scary, 'cause, like, people that are forced to breathe that smoke all day and they don't even smoke.

Luis J. Gomez 14:02 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 14:03 That's fucked. That's an office hazard or a job hazard. You can't force someone to work in those conditions.

Luis J. Gomez 14:08 Yeah, now as an adult, but when I'm a kid where I just want to smoke a cigarette in the back of a bar, it's like-

Joe Rogan 14:12 Yeah.

Luis J. Gomez 14:12 ... you're not... Um, but now we all smoke weed in comedy clubs. That's a weird thing. So, well, we just started smoking weed, like, I don't know, like eight years ago in comedy clubs and nobody said anything. It was never legal. We just decided we were going to do it. It was because Chappelle was smoking cigarettes and then somebody was like, "No, dude, we can smoke. It's part of the act, right?" And nobody said anything. But nobody's been prosecuted-

Joe Rogan 14:30 There's definitely way more acceptance of weed. People understand what it is now and there's so many people that are... Like, right-wing people use weed. That's like-

Luis J. Gomez 14:38 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 14:39 That's the big shift, because it used to be that weed is just like for hippies and losers. But a lot of people that are in pain use it. A lot of people that get headaches use it. A lot of people that it helps them sleep.

Luis J. Gomez 14:49 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 14:49 They like edibles, it helps them sleep. They like it.

Luis J. Gomez 14:51 Yeah, that's the way to go.

Joe Rogan 14:52 All kinds of people.

Luis J. Gomez 14:52 I got to, I got to switch-

Joe Rogan 14:53 Shouldn't be political.

Luis J. Gomez 14:53 ... to edibles. I got to switch to edibles because I think putting anything in your lungs over an extended amount of time, there's no fucking way it's good for you. Edibles are-

Joe Rogan 15:01 No way. Totally different though, you know. It's a totally different drug.

Luis J. Gomez 15:03 What do you mean?

Joe Rogan 15:04 It's a totally different drug.

Luis J. Gomez 15:05 Like your body metabolizes it differently?

Joe Rogan 15:07 Yeah, it becomes, um, 5-hydro... 11-hydroxy metabolite, right? That's what it is. It's, uh, it's processed by your liver and it's just a way more potent psychoactive.

Luis J. Gomez 15:16 Oh, and that's probably not good for your liver.

Joe Rogan 15:18 I don't know. I don't think it's bad for your liver. I, I think especially if you're not, like, fucking blasting it every day. I've never heard that it's toxic.

Luis J. Gomez 15:25 There's got... There's... It can't all be good. Weed can't just be the perfect drug.

Joe Rogan 15:30 (laughs) It's kind of close.

Luis J. Gomez 15:30 There's gotta be something negative, right?

Joe Rogan 15:32 I think it's negative for some people.

Luis J. Gomez 15:33 Anything in life that's good, you almost have to like pay for it in a way, right?

Joe Rogan 15:37 Yeah.

Luis J. Gomez 15:37 So that's... I'm just trying to find the angle on why I should stop smoking weed because I, I still haven't heard of anybody getting lung cancer. I'm not hearing about any negative effects. Everyone's just cool and high and it's cheap now.

Joe Rogan 15:50 Yeah, um, I haven't heard any good arguments.

Luis J. Gomez 15:53 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 15:53 But for some people, they don't pro-... They're not productive when they're on it. They can't get anything done. They just want to veg out all day.

Luis J. Gomez 16:01 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 16:01 But I think it helps everybody.

Luis J. Gomez 16:02 CBD.

Joe Rogan 16:03 CBD may be harmful to your liver, but probably won't affect your kidneys or your heart. CBD may raise level, levels of liver enzymes. This could indicate liver damage. In most cases, this happens with very high doses of CBD when it's taken with certain medications or, or when it's taken with certain medications.

Luis J. Gomez 16:22 This is all, like... This shit-

Joe Rogan 16:24 That's crazy. I wonder what, how much CBD fucks you up?

Luis J. Gomez 16:26 The problem with medical shit like this is you never really know. They have to give you like the whole spectrum and they're like, "Oh no, this could happen just so you know."

Joe Rogan 16:34 Right.

Luis J. Gomez 16:34 But I feel like-

Joe Rogan 16:36 And it could be the anti-CBD lobbies-

Luis J. Gomez 16:38 Who knows?

Joe Rogan 16:39 ... doing propaganda.

Luis J. Gomez 16:40 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 16:40 Who knows?

Luis J. Gomez 16:41 Who fucking knows anymore with these people. Um, but yeah, I mean, CBD has always been... I've always, I've always used it. I've always used it on like... I have a knee injury right now, I use it on my knee.

Joe Rogan 16:50 It's fucking great.

Luis J. Gomez 16:51 Yeah, it's really good.

Joe Rogan 16:52 It's great when you got like aches and pains.

Luis J. Gomez 16:54 How much CBD do you get from just smoking weed though?

Joe Rogan 16:56 You probably get some, right?

Luis J. Gomez 16:57 Probably get a decent amount. I think they make strains-

Joe Rogan 16:59 I don't know.

Luis J. Gomez 16:59 ... that are like higher with CBD or have more CBD than THC.

Joe Rogan 17:03 Yeah, I know a lot of people who just smoke CBD joints-

Luis J. Gomez 17:07 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 17:07 ... where it doesn't have any THC at all, which is like, "What kind of Franken-medicine are you doing over there, man?"

Luis J. Gomez 17:13 (laughs) Those people, I would love to meet that person and try to sell them anything.

Joe Rogan 17:18 Bro, they're making new life... If plants really are intelligent when we're making, like splicing them together and giving them superpowers, it's fucking... It's weird what botanists can do.

Luis J. Gomez 17:29 I was in Costa Rica a few weeks ago and like, I'm never like in nature like that, like, and it's a really... Dude, it's really cool. Like, the... We were at a place called Manual Antonio Park, I don't know if you've been there before and it's just like a huge like nature reserve, massive, massive park. And one of the more interesting things were like the trees, right? And we had a tour guide and I don't know shit about this, but there are certain trees that start attacking each other and they're like, one tree would wrap around the other tree and kill that tree and then the other tree started growing specific roots that break that other tree. It was the coolest thing I'd ever... I was also high, but it was the coolest thing that I had ever fucking heard of and I was like, there's so many like... And they have like a bazillion plants there and like it's just such a crazy, crazy world. That's some fucking real like alien life shit. When you move away from like animals and you start looking at like plants, there's a lot of crazy plants out there.

Joe Rogan 18:23 Yeah, there's a lot. Do you know that they splice different species of plants together? I think it's avocados and pistachios. I forget which one is the bottom and which one is the top.

Narrator 18:36 This is counter to what I just pulled up about liver.

Joe Rogan 18:39 Oh, marijuana may protect the liver from alcohol.

Narrator 18:42 Yeah. It says those liver enzymes can protect against alcohol. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 18:45 Hmm.

Luis J. Gomez 18:45 Just two articles that disagree. (laughs)

Narrator 18:48 It's the perfect drug. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 18:48 Marijuana is the perfect drug.

Luis J. Gomez 18:48 It's the same fucking internet giving us two different things.

Joe Rogan 18:50 But that's like smoking it versus CBD. The, the CBD thing is almost mostly edible, right?

Narrator 18:56 Oh, it said that they didn't know which strain they were using, so they didn't know exactly what part of the cannabinoids were protecting, so-

Joe Rogan 19:03 Interesting.

Narrator 19:03 ... they need to do more research, but they did 320,000 people, really.

Joe Rogan 19:06 Yeah. That's the thing that used to suck about those THC pills. Remember they had those THC pills? What the fuck was that called?

Luis J. Gomez 19:14 Hmm.

Joe Rogan 19:14 There was, like, a synthetic marijuana that was invented.

Luis J. Gomez 19:17 Oh, yeah.

Joe Rogan 19:18 Do you remember that?

Luis J. Gomez 19:19 Like, spice or some shit?

Joe Rogan 19:21 (sighs)

Luis J. Gomez 19:22 There was ones that you could buy in, like, delis back in the day that was like, it looked like weed.

Joe Rogan 19:26 Am I imagining this?

Narrator 19:26 No, no, no. I'm trying to find it.

Joe Rogan 19:27 Wasn't there, like, a...

Narrator 19:28 Pharmaceutical. It was like a real thing.

Joe Rogan 19:30 Yeah. What was the purpose of that?

Narrator 19:32 Marinol.

Joe Rogan 19:33 Marinol. That's right. It was, uh, a pharmaceutical version of cannabis. Is that what it was? It was in... I remember it, but I don't remember what it was. Do you remember this?

Luis J. Gomez 19:46 No. I've never heard of it.

Joe Rogan 19:47 Yeah, there was, like, a, a weed pill.

Luis J. Gomez 19:49 You guys were out in California though. You guys got a lot of shit that we just didn't get.

Joe Rogan 19:54 But I- I don't even... Okay.

Narrator 19:56 Cancer treatment.

Joe Rogan 19:57 Oh, for... Okay, it treats nausea and vomiting caused by cancer treatment, so instead of giving people actual marijuana, they gave them this Marinol shit.

Luis J. Gomez 20:06 Hmm.

Joe Rogan 20:07 And people were diagnosed with AIDS. The medication comes in capsule form. You can take by mouth as directed. The brand name of this medication is Marinol.

Luis J. Gomez 20:17 Yeah, that's what it was back in the day, right? It was for nausea.

Joe Rogan 20:20 Yeah.

Luis J. Gomez 20:20 That's why people would smoke weed. That was the only thing really... When they first started talking about medical marijuana, it was like for cancer patients, for nausea, it would help you eat, um, and then they started figuring out all the other shit that it's good for, CBD especially, right?

Joe Rogan 20:33 Yeah.

Luis J. Gomez 20:33 Um, so, yeah, maybe that's why it doesn't cause cancer. Maybe it's fighting your cancer simultaneously while you're smoking it.

Joe Rogan 20:39 Well, there, there has been... I don't know, but, but you gotta wonder, like, what's causing cancer? Maybe it's just, like, decreasing inflammation in general, and that's probably what's protecting you from cancer.

Luis J. Gomez 20:50 Maybe.

Joe Rogan 20:51 Who... What am I guessing about?

Luis J. Gomez 20:51 I'm fucking terrified. I'm terrified of cancer.

Joe Rogan 20:54 It's terrifying. It should be terrifying.

Luis J. Gomez 20:56 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 20:57 You should be terrified of all kinds of things, like asteroids, ice ages.

Luis J. Gomez 21:02 I'm not, not terrified of asteroids. I've never once thought about it. You always hear about them, like, "Oh, they, they, they missed the Earth by, like..." It's always like, "100,000 miles." That doesn't seem that close.

Joe Rogan 21:16 Yeah, it's just a time thing, Louis. It's just a time thing.

Luis J. Gomez 21:20 What do you mean?

Joe Rogan 21:20 It's just a time thing. We're gonna get hit.

Luis J. Gomez 21:23 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 21:23 It's inevitable. It's happened thousands of times probably while human beings have been alive.

Luis J. Gomez 21:30 Look-

Joe Rogan 21:30 And some of them are big.

Luis J. Gomez 21:31 ... if an asteroid hits Mars, and we hear about it, then I'm gonna go, "All right, fuck. We're in trouble."

Joe Rogan 21:38 Well, they had a, a big one hit Jupiter once.

Luis J. Gomez 21:41 Oh, really?

Joe Rogan 21:42 Yeah, and they, they really, um, were surprised because the impact was, like, far larger than they thought it was gonna be, but it was an enormous one. That's... Apparently, that's what protects us. Jupiter's so massive that it, like, sucks up most of the asteroids and comets. That's what allows us to not just be pelted all the time because there's, like, hundreds of thousands of these near-Earth objects that are just fucking flying around.

Luis J. Gomez 22:05 Joe, why are you trying to scare the audience right now? I don't really under-... What, what is your angle here?

Joe Rogan 22:08 I'm not trying to scare anybody.

Luis J. Gomez 22:08 You're scaring... You're terrifying right now.

Joe Rogan 22:09 This is just what I think about all the time. The gas giant regularly absorbs hits from comets and asteroids protecting their inner solar system worlds.

Luis J. Gomez 22:17 Damn.

Joe Rogan 22:18 Yeah, I think they have the photo of, uh, it getting hit, but, uh, it got hit by some just fucking dinosaur killer.

Luis J. Gomez 22:27 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 22:28 Just some big one, just shapum.

Luis J. Gomez 22:31 Yeah, something like that. I'm, like-

Joe Rogan 22:32 That's a wrap so that you could see it. You could, you could actually see it get hit.

Luis J. Gomez 22:36 There's just no control with that. Like, there's nothing that I can do. If we get hit by an asteroid one day, that's that. I'm not... You know, I can control not giving myself cancer by smoking blunts every day.

Joe Rogan 22:46 Hmm, or maybe that's what's making you not have cancer.

Luis J. Gomez 22:50 Yeah. Damn. Maybe this is my Jupiter.

Joe Rogan 22:54 That's your-

Luis J. Gomez 22:54 That's my Jupiter.

Joe Rogan 22:54 ... that's Jupiter saving you. Yeah, that's your Jupiter.

Luis J. Gomez 22:56 There we go.

Joe Rogan 22:57 Yeah, just space in general is, like, the most insane prospect ever, this infinite thing that we exist in, and there's rocks flying through it that occasionally slam into the planet and cause civilization to reset.

Luis J. Gomez 23:13 Yeah. That's... Is that actually what happened with, like, Big Bang Theory, right? That's the idea, is that that's what killed the dinosaurs?

Joe Rogan 23:19 Well, Big Bang Theory is the beginning of the universe. What killed the dinosaurs is one of these asteroids.

Luis J. Gomez 23:24 I'm an idiot. Yeah.

Joe Rogan 23:25 Yeah. You're not an idiot.

Luis J. Gomez 23:26 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 23:26 You just don't-

Luis J. Gomez 23:28 I don't know about any of this stuff.

Joe Rogan 23:29 You don't think about asteroids all the time.

Luis J. Gomez 23:32 I don't think about asteroids.

Joe Rogan 23:32 You think about them all the time. I think about them all the time, because I've had these, uh, experts on. They've fucking permanently mind-fucked me.

Luis J. Gomez 23:38 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 23:38 Especially Randall Carlson. He's this dude that, um, along with Graham Hancock, they've come up with this theory that, uh, human beings got hit by asteroids, some around 11,000, 11,800 years ago, and civilization just reset.

Luis J. Gomez 23:55 Hmm.

Joe Rogan 23:56 And we were basically like savages for thousands of years, which totally makes sense. And then the, the civilization that emerged from that, like Babylon and Mesopotamia, the first civilizations we know of, like Sumer-

Luis J. Gomez 24:09 Hmm.

Joe Rogan 24:09 ... those were probably a reboot, like, thousands of years of chaos before they figured out how to calm down and develop civilization again.

Luis J. Gomez 24:19 Yeah. Um...I don't know about any of that shit, dude. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 24:24 (laughs)

Luis J. Gomez 24:24 How do you, e- how do you talk to these people? You're a fucking comic. I, you, w- do- were you always this dude? You were, like, super interested in, like, everything? 'Cause I, I watch you interview people and you're really fucking good at, like, having these conversations with these people in all of these fields. And I'm going like, "Goddamn, dude." Like, how do you have the capacity to take that all in and fucking just be interested?

Joe Rogan 24:47 Well, it's of, but it's only things that I'm interested in.

Luis J. Gomez 24:48 'Cause no comic that I know does that.

Joe Rogan 24:50 That's, uh-

Luis J. Gomez 24:50 Like, literally, no, every other comic is a fucking idiot who's just smoking weed or drinking beer-

Joe Rogan 24:54 (laughs)

Luis J. Gomez 24:54 ... and just trying to show up and get some pussy at the end of the night. And I, I think, look, you know, it's a compliment 'cause it really is, I think, why you created something so big, is you're so interested in so much stuff that I think it made, like, it gave you this, like, mass appeal. But was it, like, always that way or was it doing the podcast that turned you into that?

Joe Rogan 25:10 Well, I've always been curious, but then doing the podcast l- allowed me to have all these conversations with people. It's like getting a, i- an accidental education. (laughs)

Luis J. Gomez 25:20 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 25:20 It's like, about, a, just a, a broad range of subjects.

Luis J. Gomez 25:24 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 25:24 But for me, it's just, it's just interesting. Like, I like listening to people and talking to people and finding out how they tick.

Luis J. Gomez 25:32 Yeah. Who was the most interesting person you had on the show ever?

Joe Rogan 25:35 Man, there's probably not one most interesting. There's been a lot of them that are interesting.

Luis J. Gomez 25:40 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 25:40 You know? Elon's pretty fucking interesting. That's a, that's a rare one-of-a-kind human being.

Luis J. Gomez 25:46 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 25:46 You know? (laughs) Like, they don't make many of those.

Luis J. Gomez 25:49 Yeah. He just said, "I'm gonna buy Twitter."

Joe Rogan 25:51 Yeah. (laughs)

Luis J. Gomez 25:52 That's crazy.

Joe Rogan 25:53 And he overpaid for it by a lot.

Luis J. Gomez 25:55 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 25:56 It's gangster as fuck, man. And, but he really truly believed that we're in a very pivotal moment in our civilization when it comes to what is happening with like, uh, particularly with censorship. And, um, when you ha- when you have something that's essentially the town square for the world, which Twitter is, if you prevent people from other ideologies or other points of view or other political parties, if you prevent them from using this space, and only people that agree with you can use that space, that's dangerous. And he recognized that.

Luis J. Gomez 26:33 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 26:33 And I think we all do. That's-

Luis J. Gomez 26:34 Oh.

Joe Rogan 26:34 It's fucking dangerous. I know you think you're doing it, whoever's doing that, because it's the right thing and we have to protect people from bad ideas, but that never ends well. It just doesn't end well. You're, y- you're gonna give that control to someone next after you're gone 'cause that's gonna be, like, a thing we do now. You're gonna give that control to new people and they're gonna turn it the other way. They're gonna use it on you. They're gonna use it against causes that you believe in.

Luis J. Gomez 27:01 We, we were headed in... Before Elon bought Twitter, we were headed in a really weird, it seemed like very dangerous direction for comedy, for anybody who, you know, anybody who wasn't, like, super left wing, liberal. I- I- If you were trying to create shit online, it was like, it was scary. I was like... And, and, and I do, you know, we do Legion of Skanks, most offensive podcast on Earth. We say a lot of fucked up shit. But I was like, "We are not gonna be able to even put shit on the internet anymore." We're g- for- for- forget just, like, you know, Twitter or anything else, like, I think they're gonna scrub it all from the internet. And then Elon came in and he, he kinda made people go like, "Wait a minute, hold on." That was, we were getting crazy. And people kind of paused. You see Shane has a special out on Netflix now.

Joe Rogan 27:43 Yeah.

Luis J. Gomez 27:43 I feel like we've sort of calmed down a little bit. And that was a big part of it 'cause it was like, "Well, no, we need to even the playing field a little bit. We need to hear all opinions and hear both sides." Um, so I was actually legitimately worried. And now it seems like this is a little bit of a, a pause in that.

Joe Rogan 27:59 It's definitely a change of course. The, the problem is all the other social media platforms are essentially run by people who think the same way. They have the same opinions on things. There's, there's no one social media platform that stands out that's like a huge place where other than Twitter now, or X, where you could just say whatever the fuck you want. Like, people are saying Michelle Obama's a man.

Luis J. Gomez 28:27 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 28:27 Like, there'd usually-

Luis J. Gomez 28:28 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 28:28 ... you, you say the earth is flat. There's, like, plenty of people that are talking about the earth being flat.

Luis J. Gomez 28:32 Yeah. That's also fucking crazy.

Joe Rogan 28:33 You can say whatever the fuck you want. And there's a, there's a, there's only one platform like that.

Luis J. Gomez 28:40 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 28:40 Like all the other ones. It's not like there's a bunch of those. It's like you can go and say whatever you want on Instagram. No, you can't. They'll put a fucking thing saying, "Fact check," or, "This is incorrect."

Luis J. Gomez 28:50 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 28:50 And, "Misleading information." And, and even sometimes I've gone to some of those fact checks, I'm like, "You didn't fact check this at all."

Luis J. Gomez 28:56 Right.

Joe Rogan 28:57 Like, this is just, like, not approved. This is a not approved message.

Luis J. Gomez 29:00 Yeah. I, um, that's why I try, I try to disconnect from it as much as possible. I think everyone should. We, I, I think it's truly like the downfall of society is social media. I, I think it, it, it's we're sharing ideas too quickly.

Joe Rogan 29:14 Yeah.

Luis J. Gomez 29:14 Too dangerously. Um-

Joe Rogan 29:16 I don't think it's that, but I think it's transforming society. I think we better catch the fuck up. We better catch up.

Luis J. Gomez 29:22 Well, we will. And, uh, look, I think part of it is a lot of these, they don't really know how to handle it. It just moves too quickly.

Joe Rogan 29:29 Right.

Luis J. Gomez 29:29 Right? So I, I think that, um, we're gonna look back at this time and we're gonna go, "Oh, yeah, that was like a real..." It was, it was just us getting a hold of the internet. The internet just fucking came out, and then we got social media, and it's just transformed everything. The whole world. We're all connected. I mean, dude, we're, uh, i- it's, the world is tiny now. Like, it doesn't even feel like... Um, but I think we're gonna look back and go like, "Yeah, we were, like, irresponsible with it." We were, like, trying to destroy each other. We were trying to hurt each other with it. It's, uh, like, it became like warfare so quickly. Um, I put, I put a... I tweeted out a joke the other day, just a dumb joke about Amber Heard. I don't, I, I don't have a dog in the race. I don't give a shit about Amber Heard, Johnny Depp, that whole thing. Like, to, from my perspective, it looked like two crazy people abusing each other, right?

Joe Rogan 30:10 (laughs)

Luis J. Gomez 30:10 It's kinda hot, right?

Joe Rogan 30:11 (laughs)

Luis J. Gomez 30:11 But l- who gives a... So the whole joke is that Amber Heard is so hot that I would let her shit in my bed, I would let her shit on my couch, on the kitchen counter.

Joe Rogan 30:18 (laughs)

Luis J. Gomez 30:18 I, I, you know.

Joe Rogan 30:19 Right.

Luis J. Gomez 30:19 Dumb joke. Very mild. Dude, all of these fucking chicks that are Amber Heard supporters are coming-

Joe Rogan 30:25 (laughs)

Luis J. Gomez 30:25 ... after me on Twitter, from still, to this day, three days later, nonstop, just coming. Like, "You don't know Amber Heard! She was abused." You're... And I'm like, "This is fucking psychotic, dude." Like, it is, th- then they're digging up my old tweets. They're, like, looking up any time I've said anything questionable and they're reposting it. I'm like, "Idiot, I posted that. It's public."

Joe Rogan 30:42 (laughs) ... are these real people, you think?

Luis J. Gomez 30:45 I don't know.

Joe Rogan 30:46 Or d- or is this, like, a media campaign company?

Luis J. Gomez 30:49 I think it might be a media campaign company because they all have, like, a hashtag Stand With Amber in their name.

Joe Rogan 30:55 Yeah.

Luis J. Gomez 30:55 I didn't even post her name in it, I just posted the joke.

Joe Rogan 30:57 But I'm not accusing her of this, but, you know, that is absolutely a real thing.

Luis J. Gomez 31:02 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 31:03 That is absolutely a real thing. There's a way that you can just, uh, like, defend a person or attack a person with bots.

Luis J. Gomez 31:12 I think, yeah.

Joe Rogan 31:12 I think they, they're for sure using it. I mean, look, we know the Russians are using it. We know that, that the me- and they always find these troll farms. Like, one of them, they found that 19 of all the top 20 Christian sites on Facebook were run by Russian troll farms. (laughs)

Luis J. Gomez 31:28 Really? When I found out that th- they were like, uh, Russia, like, interfered with the el- in the election, like, with, like, social media and shit, I was like, "Uh, that's kind of fucking awesome. It's badass."

Joe Rogan 31:41 I wonder, uh, uh, they fir- certainly tried and I'm sure we try with theirs. The question is, like, was there, like, real interference?

Luis J. Gomez 31:49 Well-

Joe Rogan 31:49 'Cause the thing was like, "Russia hacked our election," like, I don't think that's true.

Luis J. Gomez 31:54 I think you can push information.

Joe Rogan 31:55 It doesn't seem to be true.

Luis J. Gomez 31:55 I think they, they, I know Trump and Biden both did this, right? They, they both had massive social media teams, I'm su- I'm sure.

Joe Rogan 32:01 Yeah.

Luis J. Gomez 32:02 I know, I, I know comedians who've m- have massive social media teams, so I'm sure that they both had, like, the best of the best and, yeah, they both went in and manipulated algorithms and did whatever they had to do in order to get their message in front of the most people possible. And that's the game now. That's a big part of it.

Joe Rogan 32:16 Yeah, that's definitely a big part of it. But it's also, it's just like, this is not gonna stop right here. This is what freaks me out. We, you know, this in- introduction to social media and then, like, the whole country kind of freaking out, but it seems, like, more calm now. Right? Like, what's next? Like, what is the next thing?

Luis J. Gomez 32:37 Well, the next election-

Joe Rogan 32:38 It's gonna be su-

Luis J. Gomez 32:39 ... cycle is gonna suck. I, uh, uh, so, the election cycle-

Joe Rogan 32:41 Yeah, one way or another.

Luis J. Gomez 32:42 ... it just sucks for g- 'cause you know what it is? People on the left, they start attacking, like, movies and comedy and music when they, when they feel like they're under attack. And when Trump was in office, the left was like, "Dude, we are under attack. This is like we're losing the world." So they had to just anything, dude, any, any podcaster who, who, you know, they, I mean, dude, it was, it was nuts. It was articles being w- written about comedians like Shane and the Legion of Skanks. It was really crazy and it was just because Trump was in office and they just felt like they were at war and they had to win. They had to get-

Joe Rogan 33:12 Yeah.

Luis J. Gomez 33:12 ... their wins where they can get them. And right now, when Biden's in office, people are really leaving comedians alone. And I'm telling you, I think they just go, "All right, we, we, we have this win. We don't really need to go after comics."

Narrator 33:21 I found this yesterday. I finally... It's kinda relevant. Uh, when Rockefeller Center was, like, empty in the '30s and '40s, the British Security Coordination Organization came in, so part of the British Secret Service, and as it says here that they've used, like, that space was their head offices, the 35th and 36th floor of Rockefeller Center-

Joe Rogan 33:42 Wow.

Narrator 33:42 ... where they disseminated and controlled part of the media for at least a year or two before World War II, it seems like.

Joe Rogan 33:49 (laughs) Wow.

Narrator 33:53 Disseminated stories, picked up by radio stations, played before the American public-

Joe Rogan 33:57 Yeah, it's propaganda that-

Narrator 33:58 ... anti-German stories were played from American media.

Joe Rogan 33:59 Yeah, that was always the thing. Just they've always been fucking with us. Oh, I wanted to ask if this is true, because someone was trying to convince me the other night that those stories of, like, bricks being left off in neighborhoods-

Narrator 34:12 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 34:12 ... where protests... Has that been substantiated?

Luis J. Gomez 34:16 I lived in New York during that time, during, it was during the whole, um, it was, there was the BLM protests. Yeah, it was during the BL- BLM protests. And without a doubt, there was just fucking huge piles of fucking bricks in multiple places in New York City. I saw it with my own eyes. Weird. Just, and there was no construction happening. There would just be a fucking massive stack of heavy fucking cement bricks.

Joe Rogan 34:39 Jesus.

Luis J. Gomez 34:40 And it was out of nowhere. Somebody put them there. Uh, as it relates, just side note, I remember one time-

Joe Rogan 34:46 Was that no- before the riots, had you ever noticed piles of bricks, like construction sites just laying there?

Luis J. Gomez 34:53 You would see a construction site and you would see sh- but they, they always, uh, with a construction site... And once again, I smoke a lot of weed in public, so we were always looking for, like, back alleys and shit to smoke weed in, stairwells. I used to sell comedy club tickets on the street. That's how I got my start in, in comedy, uh, in New York City all throughout, you know, the early 2000s. And, um, you can't really get into construction sites. It's always chained off. They always have... The, the sites are pretty controlled because people will steal shit.

Joe Rogan 35:17 Right.

Luis J. Gomez 35:17 You know?

Joe Rogan 35:17 Of course. You wouldn't just leave your bricks out.

Luis J. Gomez 35:19 You wouldn't-

Joe Rogan 35:19 Bricks are valuable.

Luis J. Gomez 35:20 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 35:20 'Cause then if someone's coming home, they go, "Look, there's a fucking pallet of bricks."

Luis J. Gomez 35:23 Yeah, dude.

Joe Rogan 35:23 "Grab them."

Luis J. Gomez 35:24 That was definitely true and I don't know, you know, the conspiracy-

Joe Rogan 35:27 So you saw more than one of those piles?

Luis J. Gomez 35:28 More than one with my own eyes.

Joe Rogan 35:30 Wow. 'Cause I was, I was having this conversation. I was like, "How, is that, was that real? Like, why did I hear that, that some of that was bullshit?" But I-

Luis J. Gomez 35:39 Well, because the, the cons-

Joe Rogan 35:39 But I didn't look into it. So that's-

Luis J. Gomez 35:40 The conspiracy was that-

Joe Rogan 35:41 So I didn't look into it.

Luis J. Gomez 35:42 Sorry. The, the conspiracy was that, um, like, the police were leaving it out or right-wingers were leaving it out so BM- BLM protesters would use it and look worse. That was one of the theories.

Joe Rogan 35:55 Huh.

Luis J. Gomez 35:55 Um...

Joe Rogan 35:56 Was there another theory that they wanted to accelerate the possibility of chaos by giving people readily available weapons?

Narrator 36:04 This is from... (laughs) Yeah.

Joe Rogan 36:04 (laughs) That's the better theory.

Narrator 36:06 This would add to the conspiracy, for sure.

Joe Rogan 36:07 NYPD commissioner says bricks are being placed and then transported to peaceful protests. What?

Luis J. Gomez 36:14 And also-

Joe Rogan 36:15 Councilman then calls them construction debris. What?

Luis J. Gomez 36:18 I also saw a bunch of BLM protests and they were legitimately peaceful.

Joe Rogan 36:22 I'm sure.

Luis J. Gomez 36:23 The ones in New York City were like, it was, you know, they, they were just protesting. They were banging fucking drums.

Joe Rogan 36:29 Yo, yo, that's crazy. They just left bricks out there? What is that?

Narrator 36:35 That's definitely different than all the other stuff we saw where it was like a giant pallet going on.

Luis J. Gomez 36:39 Yeah, they were-

Joe Rogan 36:40 Right, but this is plenty of, plenty of-

Narrator 36:41 Shores. Sure, sure.

Joe Rogan 36:42 ... rocks that someone just dropped off-... and left with the box tops open.

Luis J. Gomez 36:48 Yeah. You remember people were putting, like, rocks in, in milkshakes 'cause the whole thing was-

Joe Rogan 36:52 Construction debris.

Luis J. Gomez 36:53 ... throw milkshakes at, like, people?

Joe Rogan 36:54 Yeah, at Nazis, yeah. Jesus Christ, man. This is insane.

Luis J. Gomez 37:00 But it's like, yeah, I mean, and, and I think the internet is a big part of the hi- the hysteria. People get worked up. People just didn't... If you have to give a fuck, right? Before, you had to get a book or you had to go, like, really research some shit, right?

Joe Rogan 37:11 Yeah.

Luis J. Gomez 37:11 You had to go ac-... If you cared about something or... You had to care. You had to really put in the, the footwork and physically care. Now people can sort of pretend to care while they're just being addicted to the, their phone-

Joe Rogan 37:21 Right.

Luis J. Gomez 37:21 ... while they're being addicted to Twitter and all these other social media platforms, and they're being tricked into just, you know, looking at advertising 'cause that's what it's all about. They get to also pretend that they care, they get to feel like they're doing something, and then it just starts to snowball. And then it turns into fucking, like, real chaos and people at each other's throats about shit that people don't even really give a fuck about.

Joe Rogan 37:38 And-

Luis J. Gomez 37:38 You go to the supermarket, like, people are just cool. Like, in real life?

Joe Rogan 37:41 Yeah.

Luis J. Gomez 37:41 You go to the supermarket, nobody gives a fuck about who voted for who. Nobody cares about, you know, what, what your political beliefs are. We just coexist and we do what we do in real life. And then we jump on the internet and we just fucking... It's a war.

Joe Rogan 37:53 Well, I think it's also got exacerbated during the pandemic, right? 'Cause everybody was stayed, stayed in. They were at home. Their anxiety's high. They didn't know th- if they're gonna be able to work again. Like, who knows what the fuck's gonna happen?

Luis J. Gomez 38:05 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 38:06 People were freaked out.

Luis J. Gomez 38:07 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 38:07 And then they got even more freaked out on social media. Rah!

Luis J. Gomez 38:10 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 38:10 And you're on it all day 'cause you don't have a job. You're at home now, so then you're just kinda fucking weirding out-

Luis J. Gomez 38:16 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 38:16 ... in front of your Twitter all day. You know, like, people have lost days and days of their lives-

Luis J. Gomez 38:21 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 38:21 ... just staring at other people's opinions-

Luis J. Gomez 38:23 Dude.

Joe Rogan 38:23 ... all day long.

Luis J. Gomez 38:24 I, I, I, I'd be embarrassed to tell you my screen time number.

Joe Rogan 38:29 (laughs)

Luis J. Gomez 38:29 It's embarrassing. Do you know what yours is?

Joe Rogan 38:31 No, I don't know what it is.

Luis J. Gomez 38:33 Dude, it's fucking... Mine's like nine hours a day.

Joe Rogan 38:36 Wow.

Luis J. Gomez 38:37 It's bad. It's really-

Joe Rogan 38:38 That's not good.

Luis J. Gomez 38:39 It's really bad. You can look it... I think you just type in screen time to the, uh, the search bar. Screen... Maybe not. I don't know. Yeah, it's like nine hours. It's like eight or nine hours a day. It's crazy.

Joe Rogan 38:50 Whew. It's wild. You gotta throw, "Oh, I'm getting some things done."

Luis J. Gomez 38:55 You pretend you're working.

Joe Rogan 38:56 Yeah, but also, "I'm tuning into the world. I gotta, I gotta check in on the world."

Luis J. Gomez 38:59 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 39:00 "See what's going on out there on the news." But really, just hitting that button.

Luis J. Gomez 39:05 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 39:05 What a weird addiction.

Luis J. Gomez 39:06 Yeah, that, there was that documentary where they talked about, like, they designed it that way when you refresh it, it does, like, a little physical, like, like, little blip, and you wanna see it, you wanna see, like, another interaction. And it's like, uh, they, they compared it to a slot machine, right? You go, "Boop, did I get anything? Did I win? Did I win? Did I win? Oh, I got likes, I got replies, I got whatever."

Joe Rogan 39:25 Mm-hmm.

Luis J. Gomez 39:25 And, uh, yeah, it's super addictive.

Joe Rogan 39:27 It's also kind of... In, in some ways, we're kinda... It's, it's... There's something dehumanizing about it because more and more people are just communicating through, like, text messages and online social media and stuff, and not communicating that much in real life.

Luis J. Gomez 39:47 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 39:48 I think kids are sending each other text messages, uh, more than they're talking to each other.

Luis J. Gomez 39:52 Oh, yeah.

Joe Rogan 39:53 You know what I mean? So it's like-

Luis J. Gomez 39:54 My son just got a phone for the first time. He's 10. Uh, just got his, uh, his pa- iPad for the first time. Um, I, it was a, a conscious decision that me and his mother made. We said, "We're not going to have him be addicted to a screen and staring at a screen all the time." You see kids in restaurants, uh, as soon as they sit down, they give them a pad or a phone, and they are disconnected from the entire conversation. They're not having, they're not making eye contact.

Joe Rogan 40:19 Right.

Luis J. Gomez 40:19 I wanted to give my kid every chance possible in the world to be successful. And he's, I mean, he's such a bright kid. He, he shakes people's hands, he looks him directly in the eyes. I mean, he's just such a, a, a little gentleman. He's, he's the fucking best, and I think a big part of it is, is the fact that we just didn't enable him to do that, and we didn't allow him to do that. Um, but yeah, that's... I'm, I'm super fucking scared of my kid growing up. Also, I'm just scared of my kid finding all the shit that I've said online.

Joe Rogan 40:44 (laughs)

Luis J. Gomez 40:44 I have to, like, fucking... I have to, like... Dude, I'm telling you right now, I think about that every day. I, every day, I'm like, "Dude, I, he's gonna fucking..." He, 'cause he's, he's from this new generation. He's a good kid, he's a sweet kid, and he's obviously 10 times more woke than I'm ever gonna be, right? He's just, it's just the generation. And I just, I'm so afraid that he's just gonna look up the shit that I say and out of context just not really understand, you know, why we say stupid shit to make people laugh. Um, yeah. So, I, you know, I'm, I'm... So I'm just secretly trying to make him racist.

Joe Rogan 41:12 (laughs)

Luis J. Gomez 41:12 I whisper things in his ears at night when I put him to bed.

Joe Rogan 41:15 Uh, do you, do you, could you imagine your kid doing standup? Would you even encourage it?

Luis J. Gomez 41:21 I would not encourage it, but I would not discourage him from doing anything that he wanted to do, like literally anything.

Joe Rogan 41:25 Right.

Luis J. Gomez 41:26 Um, and he has done standup. Um-

Joe Rogan 41:27 Really?

Luis J. Gomez 41:28 Yeah, 'cause he, he... So we did the roast at Skank Fest in Houston for me, and we, uh, me and my, my, uh, ex-girlfriend wrote him a few jokes and he, he did the jokes. Not at Skank Fest. He did it in, like, a video. Um, and then, so he was really into that, and then I was at The Stand one night with, um, just at the comics' table. I brought him and Bonnie McFarlane was there with, you know... And, and she's got kids. Well, Bonnie's awesome. Um, Rich Vos' wife. And, um, he was like, "Oh, I, I wanna go on stage." I was like, "James, you're not going on stage. If you wanna go on stage..." I was like, "I will... If you really wanna go on stage in a few years..." I was like, "You can write some jokes, take it seriously, go to an open mic, do it the way that a comic would do it, right?" And he was like, "Okay, yeah, you're right, Dad." And then he went on stage, and then two minutes later, Bonnie McFarlane comes in the room with him and she's like, "Here, put him on stage." And she p- shoved him up on stage. And yeah, he just started roasting me and talking shit about me and he did-

Joe Rogan 42:15 (laughs)

Luis J. Gomez 42:15 ... he did well. Um, you know, he's a, he's a little performer dude. He, he, he's in, like, musical theater and he's, like-

Joe Rogan 42:21 Wow.

Luis J. Gomez 42:21 ... super well-rounded kid. Yeah, he does jujitsu now. He just won his first jujitsu tournament.

Joe Rogan 42:25 That's awesome.

Luis J. Gomez 42:25 Gold medal, first tournament. It's fucking-

Joe Rogan 42:26 Congratulations. That's awesome. Beautiful.

Luis J. Gomez 42:28 The best thing I've ever experienced as a father in my entire life was watching my son win a jujitsu tournament.

Joe Rogan 42:33 (laughs)

Luis J. Gomez 42:34 There's no- dude, there's nothing fucking better. Better, better than the day he was born, th- uh, by far. It was the fucking best, dude.

Joe Rogan 42:40 That's amazing.

Luis J. Gomez 42:40 He dominated another dude's cum.

Joe Rogan 42:43 (laughs)

Luis J. Gomez 42:43 That was that. My cum went in there...

Joe Rogan 42:45 (laughs)

Luis J. Gomez 42:45 ... and dominated another dude's cum.... I did that, really. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 42:50 (laughs)

Luis J. Gomez 42:50 That's my medal. I wear the medal around the house. Um, but it was really fucking-

Joe Rogan 42:54 That's awesome.

Luis J. Gomez 42:54 That was the coolest thing I've ever experienced in my life.

Joe Rogan 42:56 That's very cool.

Luis J. Gomez 42:57 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 42:57 Sounds like he's on a good path. That's awesome.

Luis J. Gomez 42:59 Yeah. He is.

Joe Rogan 43:00 Beautiful, man.

Luis J. Gomez 43:01 But yeah, I mean, I, you know... Fucking, I feel, I feel bad for, like, this next generation because I don't even think they realize the, you know, what's happening with that. It's just that, that addiction to your phone, I, I... Well, that's really what I think it's going to be is eventually we're going to, everyone's going to have this sort of opinion and attitude because people are starting to get wind of it that it's bad to be, to be on your phone that much. Um, and I think just parents are going to just start saying like, "Yeah, no. You can't be on a fucking cell phone all day. You can't be..." And I, and it, I think it comes down to us. I think we have to make a decision to do that with our kids.

Joe Rogan 43:32 Y- yeah. You got to teach them discipline, for sure, but also res- recognize that everyone is using these things and it's a part of civilization now.

Luis J. Gomez 43:39 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 43:40 I, I really feel like if we (laughs) could see the writing on the wall, we would be terrified. I, I think human beings are, uh, uh, we're slipping into some weird place where we're, for sure, within the next few years, gonna be connected to computers.

Luis J. Gomez 43:58 (inhales) Oh, yeah.

Joe Rogan 43:58 And how we're gonna do it, I don't know how they're gonna do it, whether it's something you wear or something that's in you. But it's coming, kids, and it's almost like all these things are falling in line at the same time, like all these, uh, endocrine disruptors and plastics that are fucking up people's reproductive systems. And then, at the same time, we're all getting addicted to phones and not as personal.

Luis J. Gomez 44:27 Mm.

Joe Rogan 44:27 You know, because people aren't really communicating and hanging out and just talking to each other without checking their phone every five seconds.

Luis J. Gomez 44:32 Dude, it's gonna be, the future is gonna be us looking at each other and downloading each other's thoughts.

Joe Rogan 44:35 Oh, 100%.

Luis J. Gomez 44:35 Fucking... 'Cause you can AirDrop pictures and shit now. It's literally gonna be like-

Joe Rogan 44:38 Yeah.

Luis J. Gomez 44:39 ... "Here, take this picture," just with a fucking thought.

Joe Rogan 44:41 Yeah.

Luis J. Gomez 44:41 That, and it 100% is gonna happen. They're, they're already, they're already doing shit, right? They're already-

Joe Rogan 44:45 Mm-hmm.

Luis J. Gomez 44:45 ... making devices that can go in your body that connect to, to other shit. I'm sure, dude, I'm sure it's so much more advanced than we even know. Think about, think about how much we don't know, right? There's gotta be-

Joe Rogan 44:55 Yeah.

Luis J. Gomez 44:55 ... some crazy shit going on out there.

Joe Rogan 44:56 For sure.

Luis J. Gomez 44:56 Some really unethical shit. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 44:58 Some DARPA shit that's going on right now.

Luis J. Gomez 45:00 Yeah, dude.

Joe Rogan 45:01 Hey, what is, um, what, what was that thing where they-

Luis J. Gomez 45:03 I wanna see Elon Musk's basement-

Joe Rogan 45:04 (laughs)

Luis J. Gomez 45:04 ... what, the experiments that he has going on right now.

Joe Rogan 45:07 It's probably 18 miles deep.

Luis J. Gomez 45:09 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 45:09 Um, what, what is that, uh, thing they did where they, uh, where they recorded, uh, human thoughts? Like, someone was watching something and they got a recording of that from something this person was wearing.

Luis J. Gomez 45:24 Yeah. I saw it. I saw it.

Joe Rogan 45:26 Yeah, bro. That is, that is like... Just think, Morse code was not that long ago.

Luis J. Gomez 45:31 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 45:33 (mimicking morse code)

Luis J. Gomez 45:34 It's wild.

Joe Rogan 45:35 That was not that long ago.

Luis J. Gomez 45:38 Yeah. And it seems like technology will just move now with AI, it's just, it's-

Joe Rogan 45:42 Yeah.

Luis J. Gomez 45:42 ... it's just moving faster and faster and faster. It's like, it's really cool, but it's also fucking terrifying.

Joe Rogan 45:47 This story?

Luis J. Gomez 45:47 That's the shit that I'm terrified.

Joe Rogan 45:48 Yes.

Luis J. Gomez 45:48 Fuck asteroids, dude. This shit that we're talking about right now is the shit that keeps me up at night.

Joe Rogan 45:52 No... Is this it? Scientists recorded a Pink Floyd song from patient's brain waves. Yeah, this is it. The tech could eventually allow for communication without words. What? 100% if these eggheads keep going, we're fucked.

Luis J. Gomez 46:08 Oh, yeah, dude. It's-

Joe Rogan 46:09 (laughs)

Luis J. Gomez 46:10 ... they're, we're gonna be doing crazy shit. That's the really, like... And then you gotta figure, like, it's gonna be who's rich, who has the best, you know, computer built into their body-

Joe Rogan 46:19 Mm.

Luis J. Gomez 46:19 ... 'cause the same per- the same guy who can afford, you know, a fucking Lamborghini-

Joe Rogan 46:22 Yeah.

Luis J. Gomez 46:22 ... is gonna have a super brain, you know? And his computer is gonna be faster than your computer. He's gonna be able to download and upload information faster than you. It's kind of wild. Like, man-

Joe Rogan 46:31 Well, if you're, you're gonna have to be an early adopter, right? You would have to be, like, one of the people who gets the brain operation first, and then you'd be, like, way ahead of everybody.

Luis J. Gomez 46:41 Yeah. But that first one, we're gonna fuck (laughs) -

Joe Rogan 46:43 You're gonna get mad.

Luis J. Gomez 46:43 It's gonna, that first one is gonna fuck up, dude. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 46:45 You're gonna be like... That was the n- the night before the operation, "Are you sure this is gonna work, Harry?"

Luis J. Gomez 46:49 Yeah, dude.

Joe Rogan 46:50 "Harry, look me in the eye. You're gonna cut into my brain."

Luis J. Gomez 46:53 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 46:54 "Are you sure?" "I'm pretty sure." "I don't wanna hear pretty sure, Harry."

Luis J. Gomez 46:59 (laughs) Yeah, dude. Any... Dude, it's fucking nuts. That's like those-

Joe Rogan 47:03 Uh-oh.

Luis J. Gomez 47:03 ... people on that, uh, that went on that, um, you know, the fucking submarine thing.

Joe Rogan 47:08 Yeah.

Luis J. Gomez 47:08 The Titanic, dude. It's like-

Joe Rogan 47:09 Yeah.

Luis J. Gomez 47:10 ... what a cool thing that must have been to, like, sign up for it. You're like, "Dude, we're gonna go to see the Titanic." And then... That's fucking wild, dude. That could have been you, Joe. You could have been down on that thing.

Joe Rogan 47:21 Mm-mm.

Luis J. Gomez 47:21 No?

Joe Rogan 47:21 Not a fucking chance in hell. Uh-huh.

Luis J. Gomez 47:23 Well, there was one. Was it MrBeast? He said that they invited him to go do it.

Joe Rogan 47:28 I am not hopping in that fucking-

Luis J. Gomez 47:29 No.

Joe Rogan 47:29 ... backyard smoker and dropping into the bottom of the ocean to get the fuck outta here.

Luis J. Gomez 47:33 Would you go to space right now-

Joe Rogan 47:34 No.

Luis J. Gomez 47:34 ... on, like, one of these charters?

Joe Rogan 47:36 Fucking chance, son.

Luis J. Gomez 47:37 No? You love space.

Joe Rogan 47:38 Those things blow up.

Luis J. Gomez 47:40 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 47:40 You have to go real fast to go into space, kid.

Luis J. Gomez 47:43 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 47:43 Those things blow up. I'm not interested. Not until they get that shit down like an electric car. When they get a spaceship that mo- moves like a Tesla, just whoosh.

Luis J. Gomez 47:53 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 47:53 Okay, I'm in.

Luis J. Gomez 47:55 Yeah. Just not worth it.

Joe Rogan 47:57 I get it. Look, starry nights are beautiful. I get it.

Luis J. Gomez 48:01 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 48:01 I get it. I get you'd want to, like, go out, get real high, and come back down. I'm good. (laughs)

Luis J. Gomez 48:06 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 48:07 You can fucking keep that. I trust that it's up there.

Luis J. Gomez 48:09 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 48:10 I don't have to jump at the top of a cliff. I'm good.

Luis J. Gomez 48:13 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 48:14 I'll, I'll just sit down and look at it from here. Like, even as f- high as we get, like, what we're calling space, like, "Look, we've made it into space."

Luis J. Gomez 48:21 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 48:21 We're, like, fucking that far off the earth's surface.

Luis J. Gomez 48:23 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 48:24 There's so much out there.

Luis J. Gomez 48:26 Is that what, uh, is that what the, those tours are? You just go into space for a, a second?

Joe Rogan 48:31 Yeah, you just go, like, come back down.

Luis J. Gomez 48:33 Oh.

Joe Rogan 48:34 Like, you don't, like, go to space-space.

Luis J. Gomez 48:36 No, I wanna go land on the moon. I wanna check out-

Joe Rogan 48:37 Yeah.

Luis J. Gomez 48:37 ... Mars, fucking...

Joe Rogan 48:38 You're not going to Jupiter. (laughs)

Luis J. Gomez 48:41 Yeah. (laughs) ... if I could dodge some fucking asteroids.

Joe Rogan 48:44 You know what I bet they will be able to do probably really soon, is to give you a VR representation of what it would be like to travel through space.

Luis J. Gomez 48:51 Oh, I bet it already exists. I- I- I went... I had, um... Yeah, there was a NASA thing that I had on my Oculus.

Joe Rogan 48:57 Yeah, that was good?

Luis J. Gomez 48:58 It was super cool. I mean, it was like... It was just a movie essentially. It wasn't like... I didn't get to, like, free move, but it was like I was on like, um, like a space station type thing, so you were like moving all over. It was really, really cool.

Joe Rogan 49:09 Is this it?

Narrator 49:10 No.

Joe Rogan 49:11 What is this, Jeremy?

Narrator 49:11 Some s- I just looked up space, trip to outer space. That's the first thing that popped up.

Joe Rogan 49:15 Get the fuck out of here.

Luis J. Gomez 49:16 Joe, you would go mad.

Narrator 49:17 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 49:18 What is this?

Luis J. Gomez 49:18 That... I'm looking... This is-

Joe Rogan 49:19 This is a space elevator and it's gonna fall and everyone-

Narrator 49:22 It's a balloon.

Joe Rogan 49:22 Okay.

Narrator 49:23 So you got a little bit of extra.

Joe Rogan 49:25 Bro, I am not going in a fucking balloon.

Narrator 49:27 Look how comfortable it looks.

Joe Rogan 49:27 What if it gets hit by an asteroid?

Luis J. Gomez 49:29 This is... It looks like your studio, Joe.

Joe Rogan 49:30 Oh, my God, it does.

Luis J. Gomez 49:32 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 49:32 Podcast in a balloon.

Luis J. Gomez 49:33 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 49:33 Oh.

Narrator 49:33 No rockets, no G-force.

Joe Rogan 49:35 No, listen, you got to... That... They have to do it 1,000-

Narrator 49:37 Six hour trip?

Joe Rogan 49:38 ... times before I even think about doing it.

Luis J. Gomez 49:39 A six-hour journey.

Narrator 49:40 Meals, cocktails.

Joe Rogan 49:41 Six-hour journey into space.

Luis J. Gomez 49:42 See, that's crazy. If it... If it's...

Joe Rogan 49:44 Bro, I am not going up there.

Narrator 49:46 Perfect place for a podcast.

Joe Rogan 49:47 Yeah, perfect place to fall to your death.

Narrator 49:50 (laughs)

Luis J. Gomez 49:50 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 49:51 (laughs) Like how many, how many fucking fail-safes?

Luis J. Gomez 49:54 Do you do nothing, like-

Joe Rogan 49:55 I'm sure... For the record, I'm sure it's safe.

Narrator 49:58 No.

Luis J. Gomez 49:58 Yeah. Do you, do you do anything dangerous like, uh-

Joe Rogan 50:01 $100.

Narrator 50:01 (laughs) 100, 125.

Luis J. Gomez 50:04 125,000?

Narrator 50:05 125,000 to deposit.

Joe Rogan 50:06 Oh, d- what?

Luis J. Gomez 50:09 Wow.

Narrator 50:09 Refundable deposit, 125,000.

Joe Rogan 50:11 So 125 grand to go up in a balloon?

Narrator 50:13 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 50:14 Well, I hope it works.

Luis J. Gomez 50:15 In six hours, I feel like that's kinda disappointing. I feel like space should be more than six hours away in a balloon.

Joe Rogan 50:20 I'm scared of anything that people are trying out, like flying cars. (laughs) I'm like, "Just drive that for a while."

Narrator 50:28 I am.

Joe Rogan 50:28 (laughs) "You, you drive it for a while."

Luis J. Gomez 50:30 Yeah, dude. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 50:31 (laughs) "I'll be over here."

Luis J. Gomez 50:32 Dude, even like the... just the self-driving cars that fucking g- like, you hear about once in a while they'll just fucking go haywire. Like, the- the... Mistakes happen.

Joe Rogan 50:40 Yes, mistakes happen.

Luis J. Gomez 50:41 And then you're just in a car that you can't fucking stop-

Joe Rogan 50:43 Yeah.

Luis J. Gomez 50:43 ... and it's like mowing people down. (laughs) It's a nightmare.

Joe Rogan 50:45 I never... I have a Telsa I never put the self-driving on.

Luis J. Gomez 50:49 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 50:50 I mean, I do sometimes when I'm on the highway just for goofies. Doo-doo.

Luis J. Gomez 50:53 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 50:53 And it just drives itself, but I keep my hands on it.

Luis J. Gomez 50:55 So it's... It completely self-drives?

Joe Rogan 50:57 Yeah, completely self-drives.

Luis J. Gomez 51:00 Wow.

Joe Rogan 51:00 Up to a point, but I don't let it. You know, it's just... It's just... To me, it's just like I'd r- I'd rather just be really tuned in to what I'm doing and paying attention.

Luis J. Gomez 51:07 Yeah. My car... Because I fall asl... If I drive for more than an hour and a half, I don't care what time of day it is, I start to doze off immediately. I get like, um-

Joe Rogan 51:14 Really?

Luis J. Gomez 51:14 ... road hypnosis, they call it.

Joe Rogan 51:16 Do you have sleep apnea?

Luis J. Gomez 51:17 No.

Joe Rogan 51:18 No?

Luis J. Gomez 51:18 No.

Joe Rogan 51:18 You sure?

Luis J. Gomez 51:19 Yeah, I don't think so.

Joe Rogan 51:20 Did you ever get a sleep study?

Luis J. Gomez 51:21 No.

Joe Rogan 51:22 Just guessing.

Luis J. Gomez 51:24 Yeah. No, no. I don't snore though.

Joe Rogan 51:25 You don't?

Luis J. Gomez 51:26 D- Do you have to... Do you have to snore to have sleep apnea?

Joe Rogan 51:28 I think so.

Luis J. Gomez 51:29 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 51:29 Yeah.

Luis J. Gomez 51:30 So no.

Joe Rogan 51:30 I think that's part of it is because you're choking.

Luis J. Gomez 51:32 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 51:33 Super common with guys.

Luis J. Gomez 51:34 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 51:34 Especially guys that work out.

Luis J. Gomez 51:36 Yeah. I don't... Yeah, I don't snore at all.

Joe Rogan 51:37 Or guys that are overweight.

Luis J. Gomez 51:38 Yeah. But yeah, no, I f... So I f- I- th- on my car, I have an Audi, and it has like all the- the lane change or the lane correction shit.

Joe Rogan 51:45 Mm-hmm.

Luis J. Gomez 51:45 So if I start to doze off, it'll just automatically shift back into the lane.

Joe Rogan 51:50 Jesus Christ. (laughs)

Luis J. Gomez 51:50 It automatically keeps a certain distance between the car in front of me and the car behind me. Like it's-

Joe Rogan 51:55 Oh, wow.

Luis J. Gomez 51:55 Yeah. Um, and I've still been into five accidents since I started driving again. After I moved... I moved out of New York City during the pandemic, 2020, and I've been in five accidents with this car.

Joe Rogan 52:06 Jesus.

Luis J. Gomez 52:06 My insurance is $1,800 a month, Joe.

Joe Rogan 52:10 What the fuck, dude?

Luis J. Gomez 52:11 Yeah, it's wild.

Joe Rogan 52:13 Why are you so bad at driving?

Luis J. Gomez 52:15 Joe, I have-

Joe Rogan 52:16 Is it your fault? Oh, every time?

Luis J. Gomez 52:17 I get road hypnosis and I fall asleep all the time. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 52:19 Really?

Luis J. Gomez 52:19 No, it ha- that hasn't been it.

Joe Rogan 52:20 Oh, God.

Luis J. Gomez 52:20 It's always... Dude, I'm just a fucking pothead, dude. And I'll just back up and I'll just... There's the fucking car, and I hit it. And it's never anything bad. It's always like-

Joe Rogan 52:28 Oh, like little bumps.

Luis J. Gomez 52:28 ... you know, like fender benders. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I called up my insurance company and I was like, "What the fuck is going on?" This is... I was mad at them and I was like... They- they were like, "Sir, you've been in five accidents. We shouldn't even be insuring you."

Joe Rogan 52:38 Ah.

Luis J. Gomez 52:39 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 52:39 (laughs)

Luis J. Gomez 52:40 And then, then I change insurance companies and now it's like $1,200 a month.

Joe Rogan 52:43 Wow, bargain.

Luis J. Gomez 52:43 For car insurance.

Joe Rogan 52:45 Yeah. F- there might be a bargain.

Luis J. Gomez 52:47 Maybe.

Joe Rogan 52:48 Depends on your activity.

Luis J. Gomez 52:50 Doggy.

Joe Rogan 52:51 That's not good though, dude. Is it because you just didn't drive for a long time-

Luis J. Gomez 52:55 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 52:55 ... before you lived in New York and now you're back driving?

Luis J. Gomez 52:57 Yeah, I drove when I was 16. I moved to New York when I was 19. Didn't drive for 20 some odd years.

Joe Rogan 53:02 Oh, that's what it is.

Luis J. Gomez 53:03 And then I just came back and then I just... I got a little bit too... Like, the- the- the all the bings and the dings when you're like backing up and you're almost hitting shit, it's great, but then I- I started depending on it like a little bit too much and I just stopped paying attention and then, you know, my phone will ring, I'll look down and then here we are, I'm in a fender bender.

Joe Rogan 53:19 Hmm.

Luis J. Gomez 53:20 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 53:21 Yeah. Yeah, that's not good.

Luis J. Gomez 53:24 I feel like I'm a good driver.

Joe Rogan 53:25 No, I bet you're not. (laughs)

Luis J. Gomez 53:29 (laughs)

Narrator 53:29 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 53:29 But every guy thinks he's good at whatever. "I'm a fucking awesome driver, bro."

Luis J. Gomez 53:34 W- well how do you define-

Joe Rogan 53:35 If I played tennis, I'd be number one.

Luis J. Gomez 53:37 Doggy, how do you find a good... How do you define a good driver, right? Like, fine, if you take out my accidents, I feel like I'm good at steering the car and turning it on turns.

Joe Rogan 53:45 That's like if you're saying to your teacher, "If you take out all my Fs, I only got As."

Luis J. Gomez 53:51 (laughs)

Narrator 53:52 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 53:53 (laughs)

Luis J. Gomez 53:53 I'm careless. I think I'm... I think I'm a b- I'm a bad person, but I'm a good driver. (laughs) That's the problem.

Joe Rogan 53:58 Well, the careless part is a bad driver.

Luis J. Gomez 54:01 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 54:01 Like, by definition.

Luis J. Gomez 54:03 Damn it, Joe. You're winning me over on this argument.

Joe Rogan 54:04 You have to... On that one, you gotta let it go.

Luis J. Gomez 54:05 You know what? Fine.

Joe Rogan 54:06 It's like, you can't be good. (laughs)

Luis J. Gomez 54:08 I'll say it right now, I'm a bad driver. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 54:10 (laughs)

Narrator 54:11 (laughs)

Luis J. Gomez 54:11 I've never said it publicly before. I've never admitted that to anybody, but I will say it to you right now, Joe Rogan, I am a bad driver.

Joe Rogan 54:16 It's okay, dude. It's okay.

Luis J. Gomez 54:17 Yeah. You could be good at other things.

Joe Rogan 54:18 It's normal.

Luis J. Gomez 54:19 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 54:20 Especially taking that much time off, man. That's gotta... That's a big readjustment as an adult.

Luis J. Gomez 54:25 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 54:25 20 years plus of not driving, then all sudden you're driving. If you did road gigs, would you get rentals?

Luis J. Gomez 54:31 Say that again?

Joe Rogan 54:31 If you did road gigs, would you get rental cars?

Luis J. Gomez 54:33 Uh, before when I was-

Joe Rogan 54:35 Yeah.

Luis J. Gomez 54:35 ... living in the city?

Joe Rogan 54:35 During the 20 years, yeah.

Luis J. Gomez 54:37 Noted. No, I- I would do public transportation, Uber. I mean...

Joe Rogan 54:41 Really?

Luis J. Gomez 54:42 I'm also a bad Uber rider. Like, I'm bad at... I have the worst... My Uber rating is, like, abysmal.

Joe Rogan 54:46 Why is it so bad?

Luis J. Gomez 54:47 Because I'm a dick to Uber drivers very often.

Joe Rogan 54:50 (laughs) Why, Lewis?

Luis J. Gomez 54:55 I'm gonna tell you why. All right, so-

Joe Rogan 54:57 Okay.

Luis J. Gomez 54:57 ... this is ... It, it all came from New York City when I was in New York City. I live my life, um, like I like to be ... Whatever it is, dude, I like to be right on time. Like, I showed up exactly at 12:30 today, on the dot. I like to just, I don't like being early. I don't like being late. But when you live your life that way, you're very often late 'cause things happen. One thing will go wrong. If the, the, the Uber driver made a wrong turn today, that's that, right? Um, so very often, when I would get into Uber cars, I would, uh, be running late for something already and I'd be like really, like anxious and just like, "Ah, fuck. I gotta go. I gotta go." And then they'd make a wrong turn. They wouldn't pay attention to the GPS. Like, if an Uber driver doesn't pay attention to the GPS and they start doing their own thing, I would just be like, "Dude, what are you doing? I mean, come on. Uh, uh, you gotta pay attention to the GPS." And then you're like, of course-

Joe Rogan 55:40 Uh.

Luis J. Gomez 55:40 ... they're gonna give you a one star like immediately. Um, so yeah. It was, it was that, but it was just ... I'm not like that much of a dick. I just feel like-

Joe Rogan 55:48 People are very sensitive today.

Luis J. Gomez 55:49 People are super sensitive today.

Joe Rogan 55:51 And when people can complain that easily-

Luis J. Gomez 55:53 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 55:53 ... with just a little touch of my button-

Luis J. Gomez 55:55 That's it.

Joe Rogan 55:55 ... ruin your rating, sir.

Luis J. Gomez 55:57 Yeah, it's a bad Uber rating.

Joe Rogan 55:59 Well, you know-

Luis J. Gomez 55:59 I've been denied rides.

Joe Rogan 56:00 They don't know you though. People who know you know you're a lovable guy.

Luis J. Gomez 56:03 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 56:04 And, but, you know, on the surface, when you're yelling at someone about GPS, they might think-

Luis J. Gomez 56:09 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 56:09 ... "This guy might be an asshole."

Luis J. Gomez 56:11 I know. (laughs) I-

Joe Rogan 56:12 If they got to be your friend, they go, "No, he's a great guy."

Luis J. Gomez 56:14 No, that's just Lewis.

Joe Rogan 56:15 "That's just Lew. He's a great guy."

Luis J. Gomez 56:16 One of the things he does.

Joe Rogan 56:18 But if you're like a sensitive person who's ... Also, if you're driving an Uber, there's always this fear of picking up a psycho.

Luis J. Gomez 56:25 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 56:25 There's always this fear of like ... So even a little bit of an aggression towards an Uber driver, the j- Uber driver's like, "Where is this going?"

Luis J. Gomez 56:31 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 56:32 You know? Like how many Uber drivers have been murdered?

Luis J. Gomez 56:34 (laughs) I'm sure a lot.

Joe Rogan 56:35 I don't know, but the number is-

Luis J. Gomez 56:37 But probably less than the cab drivers 'cause ca- ... If I look-

Joe Rogan 56:38 Oh, gypsy cabs?

Luis J. Gomez 56:40 Dude, you could ... There's-

Joe Rogan 56:41 Bro, do you remember in the 90-

Luis J. Gomez 56:41 Nope, there's no paper trail.

Joe Rogan 56:42 Dude, in the '90s, there was a terrifying rash of murders in gypsy cabs.

Luis J. Gomez 56:48 Hm.

Joe Rogan 56:49 Where, um, I was living in New York. I was living in New Rochelle, and, uh, these gypsy cabs were getting ... I'm good. These gypsy cabs were getting, uh, like heisted and the guy, they'd sh- just shoot them in the back of the head and steal all their money.

Luis J. Gomez 57:04 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 57:05 And it was, you know, it was really horrible stories about these like poor immigrants who came over here and they're driving these gypsy cabs and people were robbing 'em and shooting 'em.

Luis J. Gomez 57:14 Yeah, my uncle Howard, um, God rest his soul, was a gypsy cab driver, and in the '90s, he was hit in the back of the head with a hammer.

Joe Rogan 57:22 Jesus Christ.

Luis J. Gomez 57:23 Guy just fucking put a hammer into his skull.

Joe Rogan 57:25 (sighs)

Luis J. Gomez 57:25 Didn't kill him. His, uh-

Joe Rogan 57:27 Oh, my God.

Luis J. Gomez 57:28 Was a big guy. He was like 6'6", big, fucking burly guy, and, uh, yeah. Then they just stole his car. He rolled out. He was on-

Joe Rogan 57:34 Oh, my God.

Luis J. Gomez 57:34 ... on the George Washington bridge-

Joe Rogan 57:36 With a hammer in his head.

Luis J. Gomez 57:37 Yeah, but you could feel the hole was still in his head, dude. They never like filled the hole.

Joe Rogan 57:41 Oh, Jesus Christ.

Luis J. Gomez 57:42 I mean, dude, I don't know what type of doctor's (laughs) we were going to. I ... They were supposed to fill that hole, I'm sure. (laughs) But it was like an actual, like-

Joe Rogan 57:51 Doctors back then.

Luis J. Gomez 57:52 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 57:53 I mean, if you got your knee operated on ... I have, a buddy of mine was on the US Ski Team and he got his o- ... He, he has more operations than anyone I've ever met.

Luis J. Gomez 58:01 Hm.

Joe Rogan 58:02 And he had his knees fixed in the '80s when they used to open you up like a fish and they would take a chunk of your hamstring and just screw it all in place and try to fix your ACL.

Luis J. Gomez 58:13 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 58:13 And maybe it'll stick and maybe it won't, and your leg's compromised now 'cause a chunk of your hamstring is missing. It's, it was brutal as shit, man.

Luis J. Gomez 58:21 That sucks.

Joe Rogan 58:22 And both of his, he had both of his knees done like that.

Luis J. Gomez 58:24 Yeah. I gotta, I gotta get surgery on my right knee now. I got a, I got a, uh, a knee scope on my left knee.

Joe Rogan 58:31 When you say, um, you, you got a knee scope ... So how, your, your, your, um, ligaments were, uh, intact, but your meniscus was torn?

Luis J. Gomez 58:39 My, yeah-

Joe Rogan 58:40 Is that what it was?

Luis J. Gomez 58:40 ... my meniscus was torn, yeah. So they came in and they like cleaned out like all the little loose pieces and-

Joe Rogan 58:45 Hm.

Luis J. Gomez 58:45 ... it's still kinda sore to be honest with you.

Joe Rogan 58:46 Did they trim it? It's gonna be sore. It's gonna be sore for a long time.

Luis J. Gomez 58:49 Yeah. No, it was, it was a while ago, and yeah, I haven't gone to ji- jiu ... I went back to jujitsu too quickly. I went three weeks after I got the meniscus surgery.

Joe Rogan 58:55 Ah, you gotta wait longer than that, sorry.

Luis J. Gomez 58:56 Yeah, I went back and I was like, I was like, "Yeah, I can do it." I, I'm, you know... And then, um, I was just walking out of the movies with my girl. We went to go see Cocaine Bear and we walked out and she said something, and then I looked at her and then I just literally twisted my ankle like-

Joe Rogan 59:10 (inhales)

Luis J. Gomez 59:10 ... my knee just jerked again and now it's in pain here. And this one, every time I step off my right foot, it clicks.

Joe Rogan 59:17 Hmm.

Luis J. Gomez 59:17 Every time. And I remember you hit me up and you were like, "Oh, dude. Reach out to the Knee Over Toes guy." You-

Joe Rogan 59:22 Mm-hmm.

Luis J. Gomez 59:22 And I was like, "Joe, I don't have your life. I can't just reach out to Knee Over Toes guy." (laughs) He's not gonna be like, "Oh, dude. Sure, yeah. Let me fucking answer this guy's questions." I, uh, so I watched like two of his videos. I started walking around backwards in like fucking the city. People were looking at me like I'm a lunatic. I'm like, "I can't do this. I'd rather have bad knees than walk around backwards."

Joe Rogan 59:38 If you have a treadmill, that's the best way to do it.

Luis J. Gomez 59:40 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 59:40 Did you try it on a treadmill?

Luis J. Gomez 59:42 I did at the gym. I couldn't get it to move. He said to do it without, uh-

Joe Rogan 59:46 Mm-hmm.

Luis J. Gomez 59:46 ... it being on. I think it was the, the treadmill wasn't designed to move-

Joe Rogan 59:48 Oh, I see. Yeah.

Luis J. Gomez 59:50 ... when it wasn't on, but yeah. I was doing, I was doing a little, I had to do a little, little bit of backwards jogging. Um, but yeah, dude. I haven't been able to go back to jujitsu since.

Joe Rogan 59:58 Yeah, give it time, and, um, another thing that could help you is, um, if you've, uh ... Did, did you ever get PRP in there or anything to help it heal up?

Luis J. Gomez 1:00:07 Oh, platelet replacement?

Joe Rogan 1:00:08 Yeah.

Luis J. Gomez 1:00:08 No.

Joe Rogan 1:00:09 Platelet-rich plasma. The, that, that can kinda help heal after injuries, help you heal. A lot of people like that for injuries.

Luis J. Gomez 1:00:16 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:00:16 Um, uh, maybe stem cells. Maybe consider like going down to like that place in Tijuana.

Luis J. Gomez 1:00:22 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:00:23 You know, get, get your knee like while it's recovering, hit it with stem cells.

Luis J. Gomez 1:00:28 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:00:28 That'll help you too.

Luis J. Gomez 1:00:29 I should. I, I, I should do all these things, but I will probably just live my life in pain. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:00:33 Yeah, but it'll fix it. It, it'll make it better, man. It really will.

Luis J. Gomez 1:00:36 I know. I gotta, I gotta motivate, dude. Uh, I, I, I'm just always so busy that I never have time to take off to do shit. You know what I'm saying?

Joe Rogan 1:00:44 I get it. I get it.

Luis J. Gomez 1:00:44 It's, it's really, yeah. It's tough, but ... And I miss jujitsu. Jujitsu's the fucking ... Dude, it's so ... What a badass fucking sport. It's so cool.

Joe Rogan 1:00:52 It's very good for you too.

Luis J. Gomez 1:00:53 And that-

Joe Rogan 1:00:53 It's good for your head.

Luis J. Gomez 1:00:54 It was, yeah. It was great, dude.

Joe Rogan 1:00:55 Yeah, it's great for your head. You, like the rest of the world seems like so, like not-... fearsome anymore. You just- (laughs)

Luis J. Gomez 1:01:02 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:01:02 ... spent the last hour and a half, uh, j- trying to get guys to not strangle you.

Luis J. Gomez 1:01:07 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:01:07 You know?

Luis J. Gomez 1:01:08 Yeah, it's-

Joe Rogan 1:01:08 Trying not to get your arm broken.

Luis J. Gomez 1:01:10 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:01:10 Just try not to get your fucking, uh, back snapped sideways.

Luis J. Gomez 1:01:14 J- every day you, you walk into it and go, like, "Oh, I'm going to find out what I'm made of today."

Joe Rogan 1:01:20 Yeah.

Luis J. Gomez 1:01:20 And that's, that's psychologically, to go into... and know, like, "I'm gonna be in a lot of pain today."

Joe Rogan 1:01:24 Yeah.

Luis J. Gomez 1:01:24 And to face that. It's similar to working out, but Jiu-Jitsu's different because it's, like, it just felt so much more real, like, actual live rolling and sparring, it just, it was like-

Joe Rogan 1:01:32 Mm.

Luis J. Gomez 1:01:32 ... it's real. It's like you're really trying to fucking, um-

Joe Rogan 1:01:36 Eddie Bravo said it best, he said, "It's like you're playing a real live video game."

Luis J. Gomez 1:01:39 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:01:39 Because you're playing a real live video game. Like, you got a video fighting game, but you're playing it with your body.

Luis J. Gomez 1:01:45 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:01:45 Yeah.

Luis J. Gomez 1:01:46 It's, uh... I miss that, I really do. And it was something that I, I really connected with my son. So we were, like, you know, neck and neck. I, I got g- I got my blue belt finally, and, um, just, like, being able to actually know what I'm talking about with him, it's really cool, you know?

Joe Rogan 1:01:59 Yeah.

Luis J. Gomez 1:01:59 And being, you know, he, he, we trained him for this tournament, we, he was in class three to four days a week, but then we have mats at home, and I was just working with him at home a couple days a week, and it was just a cool way to bond with my kid on a, on a, on a different level.

Joe Rogan 1:02:12 Mm-hmm.

Luis J. Gomez 1:02:12 And that's why I really, really miss it, for the most part. Um...

Joe Rogan 1:02:15 Well, it's not over, dude. Just be careful.

Luis J. Gomez 1:02:17 I know.

Joe Rogan 1:02:17 Just be careful getting back. You can, you could fix that.

Luis J. Gomez 1:02:20 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:02:21 You know?

Luis J. Gomez 1:02:21 And now, and now I'm boxing, and now I feel like a fraud every time I box 'cause I'm like, "Dude, I could just take you down and fucking choke you out." This is like-

Joe Rogan 1:02:28 That makes you feel like a fraud?

Luis J. Gomez 1:02:29 It feels silly, with, like, putting gloves on in boxing feels-

Joe Rogan 1:02:33 What do you mean? Yeah. W- you're thinking about it wrong, man. You're learning a skill.

Luis J. Gomez 1:02:35 No, I know. It is awesome, and it's-

Joe Rogan 1:02:36 But you can't think about it that way.

Luis J. Gomez 1:02:36 ... it's still badass, don't get me wrong, but I, when I think about it as, like, a martial art, I go-

Joe Rogan 1:02:41 Right.

Luis J. Gomez 1:02:41 ... this just doesn't, it just doesn't seem like the same type of superpower that Jiu-Jitsu felt like.

Joe Rogan 1:02:46 It's not, but if you don't have it, you're in real trouble.

Luis J. Gomez 1:02:50 Mm.

Joe Rogan 1:02:50 Because if someone has it, and they're very fast, they can fuck you up before you can get close to grabbing them.

Luis J. Gomez 1:02:55 Yeah. And if they're athletic, they can avoid being taken down.

Joe Rogan 1:02:58 Mm-hmm.

Luis J. Gomez 1:02:58 Like, a takedown's not easy. That's, like, the hardest part of Jiu-Jitsu. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:03:01 Bro, what if it's someone like Terence Crawford, who used to wrestle?

Luis J. Gomez 1:03:03 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:03:04 You know? Used to wrestle, knows how to wrestle, his kids can wrestle, and he knows how to box. Like-

Luis J. Gomez 1:03:08 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:03:08 ... are you sure you're gonna grab him and take him down?

Luis J. Gomez 1:03:10 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:03:10 You're probably not gonna do jack shit.

Luis J. Gomez 1:03:12 Probably not. I watch-

Joe Rogan 1:03:13 He's gonna fuck you up standing.

Luis J. Gomez 1:03:15 There was a good video, and it was, like, just a Jiu-Jitsu coach, and he brought in a professional boxer.

Joe Rogan 1:03:19 Mm-hmm.

Luis J. Gomez 1:03:19 And that was the whole exercise. He had all these Jiu-Jitsu guys trying to take this guy down, and the guy could only box, and they could only try to take him down. And this guy was just really good, and he, his footwork was incredible, and they just couldn't get close to him. He was just-

Joe Rogan 1:03:30 Yeah.

Luis J. Gomez 1:03:30 ... he was toying with him. And it was-

Joe Rogan 1:03:32 Especially in a ring or a cage.

Luis J. Gomez 1:03:33 No, this was just on mats, like, in a... but there was walls.

Joe Rogan 1:03:36 But, uh, y- as long as there's some space-

Luis J. Gomez 1:03:37 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:03:38 ... you know?

Luis J. Gomez 1:03:38 And, yeah, it was, uh, it was, it was just, it was a reminder. You're like, "Oh, no, no, it's not a foregone conclusion that a Jiu-Jitsu guy is just gonna go take a striker down and, and be able-"

Joe Rogan 1:03:47 No.

Luis J. Gomez 1:03:47 "... to choke them out." You gotta get there, you know?

Joe Rogan 1:03:49 Dude, especially in this day and age.

Luis J. Gomez 1:03:51 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 1:03:52 How many kids grow up watching the UFC and start training at a really young age?

Luis J. Gomez 1:03:56 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:03:56 You never know who the fuck knows what.

Luis J. Gomez 1:03:58 No.

Joe Rogan 1:03:59 And if two guys decide to square off in some open field somewhere, like, you, you are just t- rolling the dice.

Luis J. Gomez 1:04:06 There's some, uh, there's some just great videos on the internet where you see people that know about fights, and they break down street fights.

Joe Rogan 1:04:11 Yeah.

Luis J. Gomez 1:04:12 And they're always like, "Oh, you can just see who, like, the stance of the guy-"

Joe Rogan 1:04:14 (laughs)

Luis J. Gomez 1:04:14 "... who knows how to fight." And you're like, "Oh, no, no. This guy knows how to fight. This guy's about to get..." Before they even throw a punch, you're like, "This guy's about to get fucking annihilated."

Joe Rogan 1:04:21 Yeah.

Luis J. Gomez 1:04:21 And, um, yeah, you'd never know. And that's why I became a pussy after I started training. I literally... dude, I'm, I'm afraid of everybody now.

Joe Rogan 1:04:28 (laughs)

Luis J. Gomez 1:04:28 'Cause I know exactly how bad I am, I know exactly how slow I am, I know how old I am. I'm like, "Oh, dude, I am a fucking bitch."

Joe Rogan 1:04:35 (laughs)

Luis J. Gomez 1:04:36 And I'm way more able to protect myself-

Joe Rogan 1:04:39 Mm-hmm.

Luis J. Gomez 1:04:39 ... and my family today than I was, you know, years ago. But when I was a k- when I was a kid, before I knew, ever knew anything about fighting at all, I would have fought anybody in front of me. I thought I was a tough guy, I really did. And then once I started training, I was like, "Oh, dude, I'm not tough. Th- there's literally... I'm the least tough person that I'm, that's in this class right now."

Joe Rogan 1:04:55 Well, tough is one of those things that people like to think they are without any proof. (laughs)

Luis J. Gomez 1:04:59 Hmm. It's true.

Joe Rogan 1:05:00 You know? It's just-

Luis J. Gomez 1:05:01 It's like being a good driver. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:05:03 (laughs) It's real similar.

Luis J. Gomez 1:05:06 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:05:06 Everybody wants to think they're tough.

Luis J. Gomez 1:05:08 That's a man thing.

Joe Rogan 1:05:09 Yeah.

Luis J. Gomez 1:05:09 We, we were raised to be... And that's also, I think that's kinda prime. I don't think people lose that, 'cause my son is a nice kid, and his mom's like, you know, super fucking liberal and very much a feminist, right? And, you know, we raised him, you know, very balanced, but he still wants to be tough.

Joe Rogan 1:05:24 Mm.

Luis J. Gomez 1:05:24 He still wants to be tough. He still, like, fucking just has a thing in him. Little boys, they wrestle and they roughhouse and they... and I don't think it, I think it's just a natural thing that we have in us, um, as dudes. And I think women naturally wanna be pretty, and they naturally wanna have, you know, n- nice things-

Joe Rogan 1:05:40 Yeah.

Luis J. Gomez 1:05:40 ... and take care of things. I think these are natural things that we sort of beat out of our, you know, beat out of ourselves or beat out of our children.

Joe Rogan 1:05:47 Well, some people definitely do. And I think there's this phrase, like, toxic masculinity, that's, like, the worst aspects of masculine behavior, right?

Luis J. Gomez 1:05:56 Mm.

Joe Rogan 1:05:57 So, people g- associate even masculinity with the word toxic sometimes, just 'cause t- together, they're terrible.

Luis J. Gomez 1:06:04 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:06:05 You know? But yeah, it's not, it's not praised, you know? But it's so normal, as long as