Joe Rogan Experience #2033 - Matt Rife

1. 0:00 – 15:00

   (drumming music) Joe Rogan podcast,…

   1. NANarrator0:00

      (drumming music) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out.

   2. The Joe Rogan Experience.

   3. JRJoe Rogan0:06

      Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. (rock music) All right. Where are we recording this? Let's go, Matt Rife.

   4. MRMatt Rife0:15

      Let's do it.

   5. JRJoe Rogan0:16

      What's cracking, baby?

   6. MRMatt Rife0:17

      Let's turn off the show.

   7. JRJoe Rogan0:18

      Are you still in LA right now?

   8. MRMatt Rife0:20

      Technically, yeah.

   9. JRJoe Rogan0:21

      Technically, but you're on the road, right?

   10. MRMatt Rife0:21

       I mean, I'm- I'm home three days a week or three days a month maybe.

   11. JRJoe Rogan0:24

       You're just constantly touring.

   12. MRMatt Rife0:26

       Yeah. It's a dream come true, man.

   13. JRJoe Rogan0:28

       Yeah.

   14. MRMatt Rife0:28

       Careful what you wish for. But long time coming, you know?

   15. JRJoe Rogan0:32

       Well, I don't know. It's not careful what you wish for, it's just, you just, you have to learn how to manage this new thing now. It's great, though. It's not careful. It's fucking awesome. It's so much better than it not working out for you. (laughs)

   16. MRMatt Rife0:46

       Oh, absolutely. No, if I could sleep like a normal human being, I think I'd be just fine.

   17. JRJoe Rogan0:50

       Yeah. You- uh, you were just talking about that, that you have r- serious insomnia.

   18. MRMatt Rife0:54

       Yeah.

   19. JRJoe Rogan0:54

       Have you done anything to try to mitigate that? Have you done... Have you taken melatonin?

   20. MRMatt Rife0:58

       Oh, dude, yeah.

   21. JRJoe Rogan0:58

       Have you tried any herbal... Have you done all that stuff?

   22. MRMatt Rife1:00

       I've- I've o- OD'd on melatonin, dude.

   23. JRJoe Rogan1:02

       Nothing?

   24. MRMatt Rife1:02

       I've taken 30 milligrams in a night and, you know, you build up a tolerance to melatonin-

   25. JRJoe Rogan1:06

       Yeah.

   26. MRMatt Rife1:06

       ... then you have to stop using it for a little while. I mean, I do have to smoke, like, every single night to even have a chance of falling asleep.

   27. JRJoe Rogan1:13

       Wow, so you just, like, get some of that Be Real Indica, some of that Cypress Hill shit?

   28. MRMatt Rife1:18

       Oh, yeah, dude, until I just am-

   29. JRJoe Rogan1:20

       (laughs)

   30. MRMatt Rife1:20

       ... just deformed in bed.
2. 15:00 – 30:00

   Oh, right. Like, one…

   1. MRMatt Rife15:00

   2. JRJoe Rogan15:00

      Oh, right. Like, one of them would come alive?

   3. MRMatt Rife15:01

      Yeah.

   4. JRJoe Rogan15:02

      The, um ... But what I was getting to is there's a scene when you're going down the river in the raft where these two ships are shooting at each other.

   5. MRMatt Rife15:09

      Uh-huh.

   6. JRJoe Rogan15:09

      With cannonballs. And i- it makes you think about what the fuck that would've been like living back then.

   7. MRMatt Rife15:17

      Oh, you had to be a, you had to be a man.

   8. JRJoe Rogan15:19

      You're on a wooden thing-

   9. MRMatt Rife15:20

      Mm-hmm.

   10. JRJoe Rogan15:20

       ... floating around the ocean, and you're both shooting things that make holes in the wood, to sink them. (laughs)

   11. MRMatt Rife15:26

       Yup. Which-

   12. JRJoe Rogan15:27

       And you're out in the middle of the ocean.

   13. MRMatt Rife15:29

       Which would you rather had to have, like, done in that situation? Would you rather rely on the cannons, or would you hope they get close enough that you had to battle it out hand-to-hand? I like my odds hand-to-hand. I don't trust the ship.

   14. JRJoe Rogan15:39

       Both suck.

   15. MRMatt Rife15:40

       Yeah, they're not ideal.

   16. JRJoe Rogan15:40

       'Cause it depends on numbers. It depends on, you know-

   17. MRMatt Rife15:43

       Experience.

   18. JRJoe Rogan15:44

       ... ha- have you had food lately, you know?

   19. MRMatt Rife15:46

       It's a good point.

   20. JRJoe Rogan15:47

       Have you, have you been starving for the last week and a half.

   21. MRMatt Rife15:49

       That's a damn good point.

   22. JRJoe Rogan15:49

       And then all of a sudden you get hit by pirates. There was a lot of those guys, like, barely made it.

   23. MRMatt Rife15:54

       Oh, of course.

   24. JRJoe Rogan15:55

       Like, they, they g- they got across to land, wherever they were going, in those ships back then, and they barely made it.

   25. MRMatt Rife15:59

       Just vanished.

   26. JRJoe Rogan16:00

       Like, people died on those things all the time.

   27. MRMatt Rife16:02

       Oh, yeah. That's impressive.

   28. JRJoe Rogan16:04

       Yeah.

   29. MRMatt Rife16:04

       And also the ocean's fucking terrifying.

   30. JRJoe Rogan16:05

       Terrifying.
3. 30:00 – 45:00

   Really? …

   1. JRJoe Rogan30:00

      your fingers. They bite your fingers off. It's one of the first things they do.

   2. MRMatt Rife30:02

      Really?

   3. JRJoe Rogan30:02

      Yeah.

   4. MRMatt Rife30:03

      Oh my god.

   5. JRJoe Rogan30:03

      Yeah, when chimpanzees attack you, they bit your fingers off-

   6. MRMatt Rife30:06

      Fuck.

   7. JRJoe Rogan30:06

      ... 'cause they know without your fingers, you can't protect yourself. And that's part of what makes you a person. They also grab your dick. They rip your dick off.

   8. MRMatt Rife30:13

      No, they don't.

   9. JRJoe Rogan30:13

      Yes, they do. They bite your face off. They tear your eyes out. Yeah, they're not trying to kill you.

   10. MRMatt Rife30:17

       Diabolical.

   11. JRJoe Rogan30:18

       They're trying to rip you apart. They're not even trying to kill you. They're trying to torture you. Yeah.

   12. MRMatt Rife30:23

       That is the most caveman shit I've ever heard of.

   13. JRJoe Rogan30:26

       It's far beyond. They're, they're so different than us, but yet so similar. Have you ever seen Chimp Nation on, uh, Netflix?

   14. MRMatt Rife30:32

       I don't think so.

   15. JRJoe Rogan30:33

       You gotta watch it. It's wild.

   16. NANarrator30:35

       The lady.

   17. JRJoe Rogan30:35

       'Cause, um... What's up?

   18. NANarrator30:36

       The picture of the lady after they attacked her.

   19. JRJoe Rogan30:38

       Oh, don't show me.

   20. NANarrator30:39

       Okay.

   21. JRJoe Rogan30:39

       Don't show me it.

   22. MRMatt Rife30:40

       Can I see it?

   23. JRJoe Rogan30:41

       Okay.

   24. NANarrator30:41

       (laughs)

   25. MRMatt Rife30:41

       Oh, fuck. I'm sorry.

   26. NANarrator30:42

       I won't show it to you then.

   27. JRJoe Rogan30:43

       It's okay. Just put it on, put it on the screen. He can look at it.

   28. NANarrator30:46

       Yeah. Uh.

   29. JRJoe Rogan30:46

       I don't wanna see this lady's face. This was the lady that her friend had a chimpanzee that was a pet. And she, um-

   30. MRMatt Rife30:54

       That's what she did look like?
4. 45:00 – 1:00:00

   Wow. …

   1. JRJoe Rogan45:00

      wild-looking thing.

   2. MRMatt Rife45:01

      Wow.

   3. JRJoe Rogan45:02

      Yeah. Experts say the crisis is largely driven by people who trap and transport the animals so they can be hunted. Oh, wow. It may be the year of the rabbit, the pig, the ba, da, da, ba, feral pigs. Like, how long does it... Yeah, it's sus scrofa that... So that is millennia of chasing wild boars around the woods with spears, homo sapiens finally got wise. Roughly 9,000 years ago, which is now, uh, in what is now Eastern Turkey, our ancestors began domesticating the Eurasian boar, sus scrofa. By the time chris-... So they were wild first, then they domesticated them.

   4. MRMatt Rife45:34

      Domesticated them.

   5. JRJoe Rogan45:34

      And when we're, you were... They're like gremlins, you feed 'em at night.

   6. MRMatt Rife45:37

      (laughs) Yeah.

   7. JRJoe Rogan45:38

      Okay. By the time Christopher Columbus, uh, picked up a few to take along on his second voyage to America in 1493, the 400-pound tusked beast-

   8. MRMatt Rife45:47

      God dang.

   9. JRJoe Rogan45:47

      ... had been transformed into a pink, floppy-eared familiar. In that time, pig husbandry had produced a docile and resilient animal, one bred to survive a range of climatic conditions and to reproduce a lot. Well, that's the thing about pigs, like they have three litters a year.

   10. MRMatt Rife46:07

       Do they really?

   11. JRJoe Rogan46:08

       Yeah. They bang out babies. Like, "Let's go." And they start doing it when they're, like, six months old.

   12. MRMatt Rife46:13

       Jesus Christ.

   13. JRJoe Rogan46:13

       So at six months old they're already spitting out kids.

   14. MRMatt Rife46:17

       That's... And how many piglets do they usually have? Like eight?

   15. JRJoe Rogan46:19

       That's a good question. I think it's about six, if I had to guess. It might be more. What is, uh, the average litter of a pig?

   16. MRMatt Rife46:29

       Is that what they be called, litters?

   17. JRJoe Rogan46:30

       I think. I'm just guessing.

   18. MRMatt Rife46:32

       They're so smart too.

   19. JRJoe Rogan46:35

       Yeah.

   20. NANarrator46:35

       It doesn't say here.

   21. JRJoe Rogan46:37

       Average pig litter.

   22. MRMatt Rife46:39

       Man, the amount of tabs you have open at this browser is so funny.

   23. NANarrator46:42

       (laughs) It's just right now-

   24. NANarrator46:43

       This is crazy.

   25. NANarrator46:43

       ... 7.5.

   26. JRJoe Rogan46:45

       7.5. The average litter si- litter size is 7.5. It's not uncommon for a sow to have 12 to 14 pigs per litter.

   27. MRMatt Rife46:52

       How do you have a half? Just one little midgelet?

   28. JRJoe Rogan46:54

       exhales ] This is just an average, you know, f- some 15, some 13, some totally...

   29. MRMatt Rife46:59

       Thank you, Jamie.

   30. JRJoe Rogan47:00

       That's pretty nuts, man. That's pretty nuts.
5. 1:00:00 – 1:08:28

   But that's what discipline…

   1. JRJoe Rogan1:00:00

      just lay here, bitch." And you're the-

   2. MRMatt Rife1:00:01

      But that's what discipline is.

   3. JRJoe Rogan1:00:02

      My body's like, "You're the boss." Nobody (laughs) , nobody can tell you what to do. Shut the fuck up.

   4. MRMatt Rife1:00:06

      Yeah, we don't, we don't have-

   5. JRJoe Rogan1:00:07

      Yeah.

   6. MRMatt Rife1:00:07

      ... to get up and do anything.

   7. JRJoe Rogan1:00:08

      I'm like, "You work for, you literally work for yourself."

   8. MRMatt Rife1:00:10

      (laughs)

   9. JRJoe Rogan1:00:12

      You don't have to be at work until 1:30. What are you doing?

   10. MRMatt Rife1:00:16

       ... just go back to sleep.

   11. JRJoe Rogan1:00:16

       But even then, you gotta have, then you-

   12. MRMatt Rife1:00:17

       Go back to sleep, bitch.

   13. JRJoe Rogan1:00:17

       ... have to ask, but you have to ask yourself-

   14. MRMatt Rife1:00:18

       What would David Goggins do?

   15. JRJoe Rogan1:00:20

       David Goggins will already be up. He's up, he's... That's not... You can't, you can't decide to live your life by what that guy does, 'cause you'll die.

   16. MRMatt Rife1:00:29

       (laughs)

   17. JRJoe Rogan1:00:29

       He's one of the scariest people. Like you don't, you don't have to live this extreme, man.

   18. MRMatt Rife1:00:33

       (laughs)

   19. JRJoe Rogan1:00:33

       But he's lovely. He's a great guy. Like as a human-

   20. MRMatt Rife1:00:35

       I wanna meet him someday.

   21. JRJoe Rogan1:00:36

       ... I love-

   22. MRMatt Rife1:00:36

       He seems very cool.

   23. JRJoe Rogan1:00:37

       ... I love him to death. As a human, he's great.

   24. MRMatt Rife1:00:39

       I love... I just-

   25. JRJoe Rogan1:00:39

       He's a cool guy.

   26. MRMatt Rife1:00:40

       ... I like his motivation. I like, I like being around positive people-

   27. JRJoe Rogan1:00:43

       Yeah.

   28. MRMatt Rife1:00:43

       ... that inspire me to do better.

   29. JRJoe Rogan1:00:44

       And when he trusts you, like he knows you, he's cool as fuck. He's a, he's a fun guy. Did he get- He's a fun guy.

   30. MRMatt Rife1:00:50

       ... into it with Stavros?

Episode duration: 2:28:10