Joe Rogan Experience #2038 - Trae Tha Truth

1. 0:00 – 15:00

   (drum roll) Joe Rogan podcast.…

   1. JRJoe Rogan0:00

      (drum roll) Joe Rogan podcast. Check it out.

   2. TTTrae Tha Truth0:04

      The Joe Rogan Experience. (energetic music)

   3. NANarrator0:06

      Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day.

   4. JRJoe Rogan0:12

      What's up, Trey? Good to see you.

   5. TTTrae Tha Truth0:13

      Cool. And what's up, my brother?

   6. JRJoe Rogan0:15

      Hey, uh, I got a question for you and everyone who wears grills. All right, I got Invisalign on, and I'm trying to talk with Invisalign. And every time I've tried it, I bailed out of it. How the fuck do you talk so clear with a grill on?

   7. TTTrae Tha Truth0:27

      (laughs) I think we just get used to it, especially from Houston. You know, it's just our culture.

   8. JRJoe Rogan0:31

      Yeah, I wanna meet Paul Wall and ask him. He seems like the, the guy who understands grills more than anybody. (laughs)

   9. TTTrae Tha Truth0:37

      (laughs) Yeah, yeah, for sure.

   10. JRJoe Rogan0:38

       'Cause, like, Post Malone had one on, and then you hear him sing and talk, and he sounds perfect. But I, I can hear it in my voice.

   11. TTTrae Tha Truth0:45

       Can you hear it?

   12. JVJamie Vernon0:45

       His might be implanted. I don't know if his was a grill, like ...

   13. JRJoe Rogan0:49

       Implanted?

   14. JVJamie Vernon0:50

       Like, like with the ears.

   15. JRJoe Rogan0:52

       Oh, like where they, they, they dig into your teeth and glue it in there?

   16. JVJamie Vernon0:54

       Like the... Yeah. I think so. (laughs)

   17. JRJoe Rogan0:55

       Yeah.

   18. TTTrae Tha Truth0:56

       Yeah. I ain't hit that phase yet. No.

   19. JRJoe Rogan0:57

       How's yours on? Did your slides in, and you can slide it out?

   20. TTTrae Tha Truth1:00

       Yeah, yeah. I don't eat with 'em. I just keep 'em on throughout the day.

   21. JRJoe Rogan1:03

       Do you ever leave it somewhere accidentally?

   22. TTTrae Tha Truth1:05

       Never.

   23. JRJoe Rogan1:06

       Never.

   24. TTTrae Tha Truth1:06

       But that's something people do a lot. They used to always ... Coming up younger, they used to put 'em in napkins or put it in their pocket and allow them to throw 'em away and everything.

   25. JRJoe Rogan1:14

       Yeah.

   26. TTTrae Tha Truth1:15

       Yeah.

   27. JRJoe Rogan1:15

       Yeah, I already lost one like that.

   28. TTTrae Tha Truth1:17

       Yeah, a lot of people did.

   29. JRJoe Rogan1:18

       Yeah.

   30. TTTrae Tha Truth1:18

       But I'm good with grills now.
2. 15:00 – 30:00

   Yeah, especially when someone's…

   1. TTTrae Tha Truth15:00

      opposed to there's nothing else we can do.

   2. JRJoe Rogan15:02

      Yeah, especially when someone's got a bullet in their shoulder. (laughs)

   3. TTTrae Tha Truth15:06

      (laughs)

   4. JRJoe Rogan15:06

      Just get it out of there, man, especially if it's right there. Like, how far below the surface was it, like, when you first went in?

   5. TTTrae Tha Truth15:13

      Uh, no, so when I first went in, it was literally... It was just bulging, like, um...

   6. JRJoe Rogan15:20

      So it was, like, at the skin?

   7. TTTrae Tha Truth15:20

      Put it like this, you could do it... Yeah. So if you do this, you could always, always feel it. So the... Like, when you look at the video that was on YouTube, by that point, it broke the skin on its own 'cause you know you'll hear stories like, bullet's gonna push their way out or you'll does-

   8. JRJoe Rogan15:35

      Yeah.

   9. TTTrae Tha Truth15:36

      You'll hear the stories of during rain or cold weather it'll make you feel some way. Like that's-

   10. JRJoe Rogan15:41

       Yeah.

   11. TTTrae Tha Truth15:41

       ... shit right here for real.

   12. JRJoe Rogan15:43

       Oh. That makes sense. I mean, there's a piece of metal in you. That's what everybody says that has, like, broken arms when they get plates, they get plates-

   13. TTTrae Tha Truth15:50

       Yeah.

   14. JRJoe Rogan15:50

       ... in their arms or in their legs. A lot of fighters say that, "Oh, when it's cold out, it just sucks."

   15. TTTrae Tha Truth15:54

       Oh, they... I, I didn't even think of it. I ain't never had a broken bone, so yeah, I didn't-

   16. JRJoe Rogan15:58

       Yeah.

   17. TTTrae Tha Truth15:58

       Yeah.

   18. JRJoe Rogan15:59

       When they break, you know, a lot of times, like, when you break your forearm, they, they have to do that.

   19. TTTrae Tha Truth16:05

       Yeah.

   20. JRJoe Rogan16:05

       They have to screw it in and-

   21. TTTrae Tha Truth16:06

       Like when they put the pins and it's-

   22. JRJoe Rogan16:07

       Yeah.

   23. TTTrae Tha Truth16:07

       Yeah.

   24. JRJoe Rogan16:07

       It's pretty gnarly, man. You ever seen anybody get it done?

   25. TTTrae Tha Truth16:09

       Nah.

   26. JRJoe Rogan16:10

       A lot of people, they do it, um, from a spinning back fist. They throw a spinning back fist and they hit the forearm-

   27. TTTrae Tha Truth16:17

       Shatter it.

   28. JRJoe Rogan16:18

       ... with, with the f- yeah. They hit their forearm on someone's forehead and it snaps that way or they, they're blocking kicks. But when they do it, man, the whole arm has to be cut open. They gotta put a bar in there and screws and, and tighten it all together.

   29. TTTrae Tha Truth16:32

       They take it back out or it just stay there forever?

   30. JRJoe Rogan16:33

       It depends. You can get it taken back out. Some guys have to get it taken back out because the screws start backing out and they start poking through the skin and makes it really painful.
3. 30:00 – 45:00

   Hold on. Yeah. That,…

   1. JRJoe Rogan30:00

      an amazing fight. So Justin is like, he's at the top of the heap. I would love to see him fight for the title. Like, whoever wins this weekend with the, or, uh, when is that? October 21st, right? No, when is the Oliveira one?

   2. JVJamie Vernon30:13

      Hold on. Yeah. That, that time's correct. Yeah.

   3. JRJoe Rogan30:15

      October 21st.

   4. JVJamie Vernon30:16

      I just found the video, though.

   5. JRJoe Rogan30:18

      When that, when that card takes place, like, that is, that's going to be a very interesting thing to see who gets the next shot at it because Justin Gaethje versus the winner of that would be really interesting. Look at this. So here's Leon's kick on the left and then Justin's on the right. Same exact thing.Wild, right?

   6. TTTrae Tha Truth30:35

      That's crazy.

   7. JRJoe Rogan30:37

      Wild. And that's two head kicks to win the title, you know, a year apart from each other in Salt Lake City. Like, Salt Lake City's got some magic in the air.

   8. TTTrae Tha Truth30:46

      Definitely, if, if that happened back to back in the arena. Yeah.

   9. JRJoe Rogan30:49

      Yes. Yeah. It's, uh, it's a crazy sport, man.

   10. TTTrae Tha Truth30:54

       Yeah.

   11. JRJoe Rogan30:54

       When did you, when did you first start getting into it?

   12. TTTrae Tha Truth30:57

       Oh, man. Since way back then, with the, with the Gracies and the Ken Shamrocks. The... All... I, I used to get 'em from Blockbuster, that's when I... Um.

   13. JRJoe Rogan31:10

       Oh, yeah.

   14. TTTrae Tha Truth31:10

       Where I used to get... I used to... I still probably got them VHS tapes, man. That's how-

   15. JRJoe Rogan31:14

       Yeah.

   16. TTTrae Tha Truth31:15

       Yeah.

   17. JRJoe Rogan31:16

       Yeah.

   18. TTTrae Tha Truth31:17

       So it was, it was in the beginning phases, man.

   19. JRJoe Rogan31:20

       That's how I got introduced to, uh, to it too. I got, uh, UFC2, picked it up at like, you know, Hollywood Video.

   20. TTTrae Tha Truth31:27

       Yeah, yeah, yeah.

   21. JRJoe Rogan31:28

       And I was like, "What is this?" And I remember immediately thinking, "Oh my God, I have to learn jujitsu. Like, these guys are all getting killed." When you watch Royce Gracie strangle everybody and break everybody's arms, you're like-

   22. TTTrae Tha Truth31:39

       And people... Uh, he was... I don't know how tall he is in person, but he was probably one of the smallest people, it seemed like, looking at it from a fan's standpoint. He's skinny too, right?

   23. JRJoe Rogan31:49

       Oh, yeah. Royce was 176 pounds. When he was tapping out guys like Dan Severn, who was like a beast, 250-pound wrestler, he was so good, man, and no one knew what to do. They had never seen Gracie jujitsu before.

   24. TTTrae Tha Truth32:03

       Mm-hmm.

   25. JRJoe Rogan32:03

       And Royce just... He was the perfect, uh, advertisement for jujitsu too, 'cause it wasn't like he was built. Like, he wasn't like, jacked like Tyron Woodley or something, or someone like super jacked, Brock Lesnar. No, he was like a f- a thin, normal-looking guy who fucked everybody up.

   26. TTTrae Tha Truth32:19

       I'm talking about literally would choke the shit out of people. (laughs)

   27. JRJoe Rogan32:24

       Choke the shit out of people. And he was doing it to everybody, man. It was interesting. It was really interesting, 'cause so many people just didn't know what to do with him and he was fighting with that gi on. Which I think if they let him keep fighting with the gi on, I think, in a lot of his future fights, he would've had more, better results too, 'cause he had some fights with no gi. And it's like, man, Royce with the gi was just a master. A master at choking you with it, a master at getting you to grab it so he could initiate grappling exchanges.

   28. TTTrae Tha Truth32:51

       Yup, that was his, that was his thing.

   29. JRJoe Rogan32:53

       But, that one family, and u- particularly Royce, but that one family, they changed martial arts forever. Forever.

   30. TTTrae Tha Truth33:00

       Uh, do any of them still fight? None of them fight in the...
4. 45:00 – 1:00:00

   I don't know about…

   1. TTTrae Tha Truth45:00

      freak me out. Yeah.

   2. JVJamie Vernon45:01

      I don't know about these.

   3. JRJoe Rogan45:02

      I went up with Bill Burr. It was a lot of fun. Bill Burr is a helicopter pilot, took me around downtown LA.

   4. TTTrae Tha Truth45:07

      Yeah. He one of my, one of my favorite comedians, man.

   5. JRJoe Rogan45:09

      He's hilarious.

   6. TTTrae Tha Truth45:10

      I don't know if it's his voice or what, but yeah.

   7. JRJoe Rogan45:11

      Oh, he's hilarious.

   8. TTTrae Tha Truth45:12

      Yeah.

   9. JRJoe Rogan45:12

      He's so good. Such a good guy. But he's a pilot, and so he took me in a helicopter around downtown L- You can kind of go wherever you want. It is like a flying car. That's what they thought the flying car was gonna be. They thought helicopters, when they first invented them, they thought it was gonna be a flying car.

   10. TTTrae Tha Truth45:27

       No, I didn't know that.

   11. JRJoe Rogan45:28

       Yeah. That was the... See if you can find the original helicopter, 'cause I think that's literally what they were selling it as.

   12. JVJamie Vernon45:35

       What do you mean? Where?

   13. JRJoe Rogan45:36

       The original helicopter that was... Just write-

   14. JVJamie Vernon45:38

       Not the original helicopter. Da Vinci. He, he had one of those in 1902.

   15. JRJoe Rogan45:42

       Oh, yeah, right. He wrote it down, right? He wrote it.

   16. JVJamie Vernon45:45

       Um, original helicopter.

   17. JRJoe Rogan45:48

       Uh, flying car. See if it says that, 'cause I think that's, that's kind of the concept. They thought, "Oh, we'll get helicopters and then people will just fly around in helicopters." And then I think they bailed on that, 'cause I think they realized, like, you don't want knuckleheads banging blades 10,000 feet above cities. (laughs)

   18. TTTrae Tha Truth46:07

       'Cause it's... If you watch people bump in traffic now, then just-

   19. JRJoe Rogan46:11

       Exactly.

   20. TTTrae Tha Truth46:12

       ... coordinates-

   21. JRJoe Rogan46:12

       Someone's on their phone flying around in a helicopter.

   22. TTTrae Tha Truth46:16

       (laughs) Tweeting or texting, man.

   23. JRJoe Rogan46:18

       Yeah. Not good.

   24. TTTrae Tha Truth46:20

       Yeah.

   25. JRJoe Rogan46:20

       Definitely not good. Yeah. It's, um... I don't know, man. I'm all for freedom, but I don't want people falling out of the sky onto people's houses either, you know. (laughs)

   26. TTTrae Tha Truth46:31

       Yeah, yeah. Yeah, on that. I don't know that... Helicopters, I don't really feel comfortable in helicopters. I'm more cool with a plane. Uh, private plane.

   27. JRJoe Rogan46:40

       Do you ever do the tour bus thing? Do you do tour buses ever?

   28. TTTrae Tha Truth46:43

       Yeah, yeah. Sometimes, man. But you know, we get... We so comfortable now, we just jump in a, a load of Suburbans and get to where we gotta go. 'Cause, you know, even when, um... I think my last tour, me and T.I. did, we were on, um, tour buses. But even then, you know, it's more so just when we're trying to get to the next city, 'cause ideally we still gonna go to a hotel and-

   29. JRJoe Rogan47:06

       Right.

   30. TTTrae Tha Truth47:06

       ... do what we gotta do. So, yeah.
5. 1:00:00 – 1:11:51

   Yeah. …

   1. TTTrae Tha Truth1:00:00

      The way I paint the picture, you know, you have people actually feeling exactly how I feel at that moment, 'cause I, I'm not good at sitting up here like, "Man, joy, I had a terrible day today. This is going on. This, eh, uh..."

   2. JRJoe Rogan1:00:12

      Yeah.

   3. TTTrae Tha Truth1:00:12

      I don't feel comfortable, but if I do it through the music, it just, it's more relatable.

   4. JRJoe Rogan1:00:17

      Hmm.

   5. TTTrae Tha Truth1:00:17

      You know? I'm excited about it. Now, the funny thing, I'm gonna show you, I'll show you probably when we get off, I just did... I released a song called First Class, one of the first singles, 'cause I'm releasing singles every two weeks leading up to it. And in First Class I had, um, my, my bro Philly Flyboy shot it, and I had s- uh, some people, um, White Rhino VFX, they're from San Antonio, they edited my old school Cadillac drop to I'm flying around on a cloud. So it's just crazy. We were just talking about that shit, but-

   6. JRJoe Rogan1:00:51

      (laughs)

   7. TTTrae Tha Truth1:00:51

      ... super dope, man.

   8. JRJoe Rogan1:00:52

      Oh, that is cool.

   9. TTTrae Tha Truth1:00:53

      Yeah.

   10. JRJoe Rogan1:00:54

       Yeah. When, when you release this, does that... The beginning of a tour?

   11. TTTrae Tha Truth1:00:59

       Um-Right now, hopefully. I mean, you know, it... Man, believe it or not, even if we've been in the game for as long as we do, we'd still be nervous and don't really know what comes about. You never know what record... Like, when we- when I released the album, you never know what record people are gonna take to. We don't know if one gonna take off or if you gotta build it up. But, realistically, the goal is when it comes out to get ready to get on the road, you know?

   12. JRJoe Rogan1:01:25

       Mm.

   13. TTTrae Tha Truth1:01:25

       I love, that's one thing I love. The- my two main things, or three, is my kids, the music, and just helping people, man. So you know, like, those are three things that excite me. But other than that, I like- I just- I venture off and just try everything. I feel like you get zero results if you don't try it, you know?

   14. JRJoe Rogan1:01:46

       Well, that- that's a beautiful philosophy, the way you balance it all out. Y- that's a good thing 'cause, you know, a lot of us can get caught up in maybe o- one thing too much, you know? That just to have this idea of like your family, your job, everything, it's all... Everything deserves equal attention.

   15. TTTrae Tha Truth1:02:03

       Yeah. And, uh, you know, uh, man, it's... With life, like I just be so realistic with everything, man, because, you know, we all have our good days, we all have our bad days, we all mess up time and time, you know? And for me, it's just how we bounce back. And even with some of the hiccups I done had within the- the last year or two, you know, it's all learning experiences. But I feel like even with this album, the reason I named it Stuck In Motion was rather than me be dwelling on shit that I could've done different or shit I could've done better, or to be just held back or sad or just trying to... You know, a lot of the times we complain about a bunch of shit, and I feel like I'm at a point in my life now it's like, man, you just gotta accept stuff for what it is. So the reason I named it Stuck In Motion is regardless of what I'm going through, I'm still moving, I'ma keep it moving which- whichever direction I'm aimed at, that's where I'm going. So I'm stuck in motion. That was the purpose of it, man.

   16. JRJoe Rogan1:03:00

       That's a good name for it.

   17. TTTrae Tha Truth1:03:01

       Yeah.

   18. JRJoe Rogan1:03:02

       So, when you say you never know, like, how it's gonna be received, like, uh, but it's- is this your favorite?

   19. TTTrae Tha Truth1:03:09

       Um, I think it's definitely... It's gonna be an important one in my- in my catalog because, you know, I- I'm from the streets, so most of my music is always gonna be that. This album is more just good vibe. I think it's more growth and more universal where you could just, for those who smoke, you can put it on (laughs) and just light your blunt up or you just get in your car and ride. So, for me, it's important 'cause I just feel like it's a album of- of growth, you know? I'm just showing I'm unbothered and I'm living life, I'm enjoying life. And, you know, a lot of people don't really understand, man. It don't take... It's not just about money to enjoy life, you know? It's- it's what different things you have that- that bring peace to you. So I just think I'm at a point in life where I'm just enjoying life, you know? And that's wh- that's why I think it's gonna be so- so important for me. And, um, what I'm doing to it als- what I'm doing with it also that's gonna make it different is, I don't know if you seen, they say you can put out... Like I'm shooting a video for every song, but in between the songs, I wanna do little short movie skits so it'll be like from a start to a finish, like a- a whole project where I'm making, put it on Amazon or something like that.

   20. JRJoe Rogan1:04:23

       Oh, nice.

   21. TTTrae Tha Truth1:04:24

       Yeah, so I'm just trying to think of this different creative shit with this, man.

   22. JRJoe Rogan1:04:26

       I like that. I like that idea. Yeah. Yeah, just tie it in together, make a movie out of it.

   23. TTTrae Tha Truth1:04:33

       Yeah.

   24. JRJoe Rogan1:04:33

       It's a great idea.

   25. TTTrae Tha Truth1:04:34

       I got a movie coming too, but this is just gonna be focused on the music, you know? From the m- 'cause you- you have different people, man. For me, you have different fans from different things, and, um, music-wise, I wanna make sure I- I make sure I set that one apart. But, um, it- it's definitely exciting. Um, one of my bros, he one of the main, um, DJs outta Houston, you know, that- that kinda can shift the culture, DJ Mister Rogers. I had him executive producing, you know, just from a musical standpoint to find records that he think people would take to. You know, which at the end of the day, we chose all the records I did, so it worked out. But um, that... Putting the, uh- all the visuals together to make it dope, and what I'm gonna do too that's gonna be creative so (smacks lips) when I was talking about the movie part, I'm gonna actually get actors for- for different roles, you know? So it'll just be something bigger than me just going standing on the corner, have one of my homeboys talking to me.

   26. JRJoe Rogan1:05:38

       That's a great idea. Are you gonna write it o- uh, like are you gonna write it out after the music? Like the music's done, right?

   27. TTTrae Tha Truth1:05:45

       Right.

   28. JRJoe Rogan1:05:45

       So are you now thinking about like how you're gonna put together a movie that ties in with all the songs?

   29. TTTrae Tha Truth1:05:52

       So right now the- I guess the way that I'm really envisioning it is I just- each part I just create different scenarios, so at that point you don't really make it as I have to really write it out, you know what I'm saying? Just in between each skit what scenario that may be. It may be me in the mirror having a conversation with myself, but the reflection of the mirror may be a whole nother actor that's, you know, good- good guy, bad guy.

   30. JRJoe Rogan1:06:18

       Right.

Episode duration: 2:14:40