Joe Rogan Experience #2038 - Trae Tha Truth

1. 0:00 – 1:22

   Grills, Invisalign, and Houston culture (warm-up banter)

   1. JRJoe Rogan0:00

      (drum roll) Joe Rogan podcast. Check it out.

   2. TTTrae Tha Truth0:04

      The Joe Rogan Experience. (energetic music)

   3. NANarrator0:06

      Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day.

   4. JRJoe Rogan0:12

      What's up, Trey? Good to see you.

   5. TTTrae Tha Truth0:13

      Cool. And what's up, my brother?

   6. JRJoe Rogan0:15

      Hey, uh, I got a question for you and everyone who wears grills. All right, I got Invisalign on, and I'm trying to talk with Invisalign. And every time I've tried it, I bailed out of it. How the fuck do you talk so clear with a grill on?

   7. TTTrae Tha Truth0:27

      (laughs) I think we just get used to it, especially from Houston. You know, it's just our culture.

   8. JRJoe Rogan0:31

      Yeah, I wanna meet Paul Wall and ask him. He seems like the, the guy who understands grills more than anybody. (laughs)

   9. TTTrae Tha Truth0:37

      (laughs) Yeah, yeah, for sure.

   10. JRJoe Rogan0:38

       'Cause, like, Post Malone had one on, and then you hear him sing and talk, and he sounds perfect. But I, I can hear it in my voice.

   11. TTTrae Tha Truth0:45

       Can you hear it?

   12. JVJamie Vernon0:45

       His might be implanted. I don't know if his was a grill, like ...

   13. JRJoe Rogan0:49

       Implanted?

   14. JVJamie Vernon0:50

       Like, like with the ears.

   15. JRJoe Rogan0:52

       Oh, like where they, they, they dig into your teeth and glue it in there?

   16. JVJamie Vernon0:54

       Like the... Yeah. I think so. (laughs)

   17. JRJoe Rogan0:55

       Yeah.

   18. TTTrae Tha Truth0:56

       Yeah. I ain't hit that phase yet. No.

   19. JRJoe Rogan0:57

       How's yours on? Did your slides in, and you can slide it out?

   20. TTTrae Tha Truth1:00

       Yeah, yeah. I don't eat with 'em. I just keep 'em on throughout the day.

   21. JRJoe Rogan1:03

       Do you ever leave it somewhere accidentally?

   22. TTTrae Tha Truth1:05

       Never.

   23. JRJoe Rogan1:06

       Never.

   24. TTTrae Tha Truth1:06

       But that's something people do a lot. They used to always ... Coming up younger, they used to put 'em in napkins or put it in their pocket and allow them to throw 'em away and everything.

   25. JRJoe Rogan1:14

       Yeah.

   26. TTTrae Tha Truth1:15

       Yeah.

   27. JRJoe Rogan1:15

       Yeah, I already lost one like that.

   28. TTTrae Tha Truth1:17

       Yeah, a lot of people did.

   29. JRJoe Rogan1:18

       Yeah.

   30. TTTrae Tha Truth1:18

       But I'm good with grills now.
2. 1:22 – 3:01

   “Work mode”: music, fatherhood, and the ‘hometown hero’ role

   1. JRJoe Rogan1:22

      That's like (laughs) the wimpiest version of a grill. So what's happening, man? How you doing?

   2. TTTrae Tha Truth1:27

      Man, blessed. Just in, in work mode in all aspects, man.

   3. JRJoe Rogan1:31

      Work mode. What's work mode for you? Like, what, what happens?

   4. TTTrae Tha Truth1:34

      It depends on which world 'cause, you know, of course music-wise, that's my first and foremost, but then the hometown hero side, and then just helping people and being a daddy is just work all around the clock.

   5. JRJoe Rogan1:47

      Right. Right.

   6. TTTrae Tha Truth1:49

      Yeah.

   7. JRJoe Rogan1:49

      What is this hometown hero stuff?

   8. TTTrae Tha Truth1:51

      Uh, that's what they label me, you know. Well, they label me that in Houston, but now it's got to the point they label me that everywhere just for the, the help I do, whether it be hurricane disasters, whether it be just assisting with people, whether it be frontline for the community, whether it be fighting for justice, whether it be just assisting and, and caring for the, the town the way that I do. You know, my son name Houston. That's how much Houston I am.

   9. JRJoe Rogan2:20

      Wow.

   10. TTTrae Tha Truth2:20

       Yeah.

   11. JRJoe Rogan2:22

       Yeah. It was fun seeing you backstage at the Post Malone concert.

   12. TTTrae Tha Truth2:25

       Yeah. That's one of my little brothers, man. People, a lot of people don't realize the history with me and a lot of artists. Like, I remember when Post was first coming up. That's how far back we go, man. I always been supportive and just always had his back. So, you know, it's been that way with a lot of artists. So whenever they see me, it be super excitement.

   13. JRJoe Rogan2:45

       Yeah. No, it's cool. It's cool to see that respect.

   14. TTTrae Tha Truth2:48

       Yeah.

   15. JRJoe Rogan2:48

       It's, uh, it's like a thing. You gotta stop in and check in with Trey when you come to Houston. (laughs)

   16. TTTrae Tha Truth2:53

       (laughs) But, you know, it ain't ... It's not the, it's not the forceful way. It's more of a, "That's their only guy."

   17. JRJoe Rogan2:57

       No, no, a love way.

   18. TTTrae Tha Truth2:58

       Yeah.

   19. JRJoe Rogan2:58

       Yeah. No, it's a-

   20. TTTrae Tha Truth2:59

       For sure.

   21. JRJoe Rogan2:59

       It's a nice way. It's a nice way.

   22. TTTrae Tha Truth3:01

       Yeah.

3. 3:01 – 6:45

   Staying sober in a high-pressure environment + fentanyl danger

   1. JRJoe Rogan3:01

      So you were saying you n- you never smoked and you never drank your whole life, nothing?

   2. TTTrae Tha Truth3:05

      Yeah. Never smoked, never drank, man.

   3. JRJoe Rogan3:07

      How did you dodge that?

   4. TTTrae Tha Truth3:10

      So crazy story is, man, coming from where I come from, most people smoke and drink, you know, when they tend to go through stuff just dealing with life. You know, that's what kind of put their mind at ease. And I was always one of the people I felt like I'm gonna deal with it, head up. Whatever, however it hit me at that moment, it can't get no worse than that. So I always just decided to not do, 'cause at the end of the day, when I got done smoking or drinking, if that's what I decided to do, the reality still gonna kick in. So I'd rather just deal with this shit head up.

   5. JRJoe Rogan3:40

      That's a good mindset. But smoking and drinking is fun. (laughs)

   6. TTTrae Tha Truth3:44

      (laughs)

   7. JRJoe Rogan3:45

      (laughs)

   8. TTTrae Tha Truth3:45

      I watch everybody around me do it-

   9. JRJoe Rogan3:47

      Yeah.

   10. TTTrae Tha Truth3:47

       ... all day every day.

   11. JRJoe Rogan3:48

       Well, there's nothing that, uh, sort of illuminates the problems with alcohol like watching someone be drunk and you're sober.

   12. TTTrae Tha Truth3:55

       Uh, you know, man, I, I always been more of a protector my whole life, so I'm always just watching the atmosphere anyway, so it don't really bother me. I'll be watching out just to make sure everybody's straight at all times.

   13. JRJoe Rogan4:06

       Right. So you're like the designated driver.

   14. TTTrae Tha Truth4:09

       (laughs)

   15. JRJoe Rogan4:09

       Keep, keep everybody-

   16. TTTrae Tha Truth4:10

       I don't wanna be classified that 'cause that's-

   17. JRJoe Rogan4:11

       I don't mean that way.

   18. TTTrae Tha Truth4:12

       Yeah.

   19. JRJoe Rogan4:12

       You know what I'm saying?

   20. TTTrae Tha Truth4:12

       Yeah.

   21. JRJoe Rogan4:12

       Just like the, the, the w- the wise, sober person in the room-

   22. TTTrae Tha Truth4:16

       Yeah.

   23. JRJoe Rogan4:16

       ... keeping everybody together. Yeah. Um, it is an interesting thing because, uh, we, we all know so many people that have ruined their lives because of that.

   24. TTTrae Tha Truth4:25

       Yeah. Yeah.

   25. JRJoe Rogan4:26

       You know, just gets away from them. That's all they wanna do, smoke and drink, and, and your life just kinda gets away from you. You're just escaping it instead of being in it.

   26. TTTrae Tha Truth4:35

       You know, man, uh, something that I realized, everybody not built, uh, built to be that strong, and everybody not able to deal with a lot of things, you know.

   27. JRJoe Rogan4:44

       Right.

   28. TTTrae Tha Truth4:45

       So sometimes that's their scapegoat, and I'm one of the ones not to judge. I just ... If it suits you and that's for you, you know, you gotta do what you gotta do.

   29. JRJoe Rogan4:53

       That's a good way of looking at it too because that is true, that we, we all have, uh, different levels of ability of handling shit.

   30. TTTrae Tha Truth5:00

       Yeah.
4. 6:45 – 11:04

   Weed legality, cartels, and unintended consequences of prohibition

   1. JRJoe Rogan6:45

      You know, because weed is illegal in a lot of states, 90% of the weed that's grown, uh, that's sold in these states where it's illegal is grown on public land by the cartels. Because in the places where weed is legal, like California, it's only a misdemeanor if you're growing weed, like, without a permit. It's not a big deal. So they just set up shop in the national forests in places where they're not supposed to be, and they grow weed.

   2. TTTrae Tha Truth7:13

      Yeah.

   3. JRJoe Rogan7:13

      'Cause if they get caught, it's not, you know, it's not that big of a deal, but, you know, they want to protect their product too. So these guys who used to be, like, game wardens, now they have, like, tactical teams with dogs and shit, and, you know, MP4s and machine guns, and they're going through the, the woods fighting the cartel. It's wild.

   4. TTTrae Tha Truth7:32

      Yeah. You know, you see it in the movies, but, you know, that's what happen in real life for real, for real.

   5. JRJoe Rogan7:36

      For real, for real. And he was explaining to me how, um, it's really dangerous, because they use all these, like, super toxic pesticides and shit that no one else is allowed to use. Like, you can't really use that if you're growing... Especially if you're growing something organically, which is ideal. So they're, they're just using all kinds of shit that's, like, super toxic.

   6. TTTrae Tha Truth7:56

      Yeah. And then that's, I mean, that's gonna weigh down and affect the people for sure, for sure.

   7. JRJoe Rogan8:00

      Yeah. And isn't it crazy that all that is just because it's illegal?

   8. TTTrae Tha Truth8:04

      Man, I, I, I'm not sure when, but I'm, I'm, I'm assuming they're going to have to make it legal in Texas at some point, man.

   9. JRJoe Rogan8:12

      At some point. It seems silly, especially 'cause Texas is supposed to be all about freedom. You know, um, I had a conversation with this guy, Alex Berenson, yesterday. He's a reporter. He used to work for the New York Times. And he's... You know, he pointed out, he's like, "Everybody wants freedom, but if you get that freedom and everything's legal, you're gonna have a bunch of drug overdoses you wouldn't have. You're gonna have a bunch of people that are addicted you wouldn't have gotten addicted. If it was illegal, they wouldn't have bought it. And because it's legal, you're going to have to deal with that." And it's true.

   10. TTTrae Tha Truth8:43

       But the-

   11. JRJoe Rogan8:43

       It's an uncomfortable truth.

   12. TTTrae Tha Truth8:44

       ... flip side of that is I've yet to see anybody really pass away from weed.

   13. JRJoe Rogan8:50

       Yeah. Even from cancer, right?

   14. TTTrae Tha Truth8:52

       Right. And, and, you know, if-

   15. JRJoe Rogan8:53

       If they're smoking it every day, they're not getting lung cancer. That's crazy.

   16. TTTrae Tha Truth8:56

       Right. So that's the only part they getting confused why they haven't made it-

   17. JRJoe Rogan9:00

       Yeah.

   18. TTTrae Tha Truth9:00

       ... illegal as fast.

   19. JRJoe Rogan9:02

       I mean, if there's things like, you know, the opiates, if they're legal, you can get those, but you can't get weed? That seems silly.

   20. TTTrae Tha Truth9:10

       Mm-mm.

   21. JRJoe Rogan9:10

       That just seems silly.

   22. TTTrae Tha Truth9:12

       I think-

   23. JRJoe Rogan9:12

       It doesn't make any sense.

   24. TTTrae Tha Truth9:13

       I think, honestly, man, the reason why it's probably not, it's just because they haven't figured out a way to monetize off of it.

   25. JRJoe Rogan9:19

       Well, the problem is you can't patent it, right? So, like, if you're selling, you know, whatever it is, some thyroid medication or something, you, you could patent that, and then it's your medication that you invented, and then you own the patents on it so you get all the profits from it. But when it's a plant, that whole model gets, like, thrown into the bushes. Like, you can't do shit. Everybody can grow it. You just... All you need is dirt and water, and you can get the drug.

   26. TTTrae Tha Truth9:43

       And then, uh, a name (laughs) 'cause-

   27. JRJoe Rogan9:46

       Yeah.

   28. TTTrae Tha Truth9:46

       ... you can rename it-

   29. JRJoe Rogan9:47

       Yep.

   30. TTTrae Tha Truth9:47

       ... as much as you want, yeah.
5. 11:04 – 16:07

   Trae’s shooting story: refusing pills, living with a bullet, and pulling it out himself

   1. TTTrae Tha Truth11:04

      But it, it's so crazy. It's a... It became even a bigger habit for me, right? Uh, I don't know how long ago it was when I got shot, but when I got shot, they ended up, um... They actually... The crazy thing is they never, they didn't do surgery or anything, right? I got shot. It was so many people outside the hospital that they were like, "Man, we need to get him out of here," 'cause they, they never seen nothing like that. So they don't know if the people outside was against me or was for me. They just never seen it. So, um-

   2. JRJoe Rogan11:34

      Oh.

   3. TTTrae Tha Truth11:34

      ... long story short, um, left, got home, cleaned the round. They just got the bleeding to stop. But, um, days later, they tried to prescribe me medicine. I think I took the medicine probably for the first five, six days. And then once I decided that I could make it through half a day without it, I'm just like, "Man, fuck it. I'm just... It can't get no worse than this." You know what I'm saying?

   4. JRJoe Rogan12:00

      Right.

   5. TTTrae Tha Truth12:00

      It can only get better, so dealing with that, that's just... It, it developed a habit of anything I do, I just go at it about that way. I don't know if you ever seen on, on (laughs) on YouTube, I took the bullet out myself.

   6. JRJoe Rogan12:13

      Jesus.

   7. TTTrae Tha Truth12:14

      Yeah, yeah. But it's just-

   8. JRJoe Rogan12:16

      Where'd you get shot?

   9. TTTrae Tha Truth12:18

      I got shot directly in my back and, um, it shattered my shoulder blade and spent to my, uh, shoulder. So it sat there for like four or five years. And it's so crazy, right? When y- you hear people tell you the stories.

   10. JRJoe Rogan12:30

       There it is.

   11. TTTrae Tha Truth12:31

       Yeah.

   12. JRJoe Rogan12:32

       So-

   13. TTTrae Tha Truth12:32

       Oh, that's me taking it out.

   14. JRJoe Rogan12:34

       So it was pushing out how long after you got shot?

   15. TTTrae Tha Truth12:37

       Yeah, about five... It could have been like five years.

   16. JRJoe Rogan12:40

       Five years.

   17. TTTrae Tha Truth12:41

       Mm-hmm.

   18. JRJoe Rogan12:41

       So the bullet was still in... It was, uh, working its way out of your skin for five years. Wow.

   19. TTTrae Tha Truth12:46

       Yeah.

   20. JRJoe Rogan12:46

       Dude, that's crazy.

   21. TTTrae Tha Truth12:50

       And went on to continue my day. (laughs)

   22. JRJoe Rogan12:53

       (laughs) Did you get it stitched up at least?

   23. TTTrae Tha Truth12:55

       No.

   24. JRJoe Rogan12:56

       Really?

   25. TTTrae Tha Truth12:56

       Yeah. But it, it, it healed like it was supposed to, man. Uh, one... The fact that them not doing surgery on me when I got shot and it healed, I was just... That was a cakewalk at that point. So...

   26. JRJoe Rogan13:07

       Why didn't they wanna do surgery?

   27. TTTrae Tha Truth13:10

       One, uh, I don't know if, if for them not ha-... I guess for how many people was there so fast and then them not being able to go in and know if it's somewhere that was damaging or, or however you wanna put the words. But, um, that's shit. They were like, "Man, we gotta get him up outta here." (laughs)

   28. JRJoe Rogan13:29

       Wow.

   29. TTTrae Tha Truth13:29

       And that was just the reality of it. But the only bad thing is, 'cause they didn't move it and it was there, it got tangled up in a lot of my, um, nerves and muscle. So, like, if you ever pay attention to me, like, I can't lift my arm directly straight up or do a lot of different things 'cause it was sitting in there for so many years.

   30. JRJoe Rogan13:51

       That's gotta piss you off because they could have just pulled that out, right? Could they have?
6. 16:07 – 23:04

   From injuries to fighting: UFC leg kicks, old-school legends, and why fans love ‘monsters’

   1. JRJoe Rogan16:07

      It's pretty gnarly, man. You ever seen anybody get it done?

   2. TTTrae Tha Truth16:09

      Nah.

   3. JRJoe Rogan16:10

      A lot of people, they do it, um, from a spinning back fist. They throw a spinning back fist and they hit the forearm-

   4. TTTrae Tha Truth16:17

      Shatter it.

   5. JRJoe Rogan16:18

      ... with, with the f- yeah. They hit their forearm on someone's forehead and it snaps that way or they, they're blocking kicks. But when they do it, man, the whole arm has to be cut open. They gotta put a bar in there and screws and, and tighten it all together.

   6. TTTrae Tha Truth16:32

      They take it back out or it just stay there forever?

   7. JRJoe Rogan16:33

      It depends. You can get it taken back out. Some guys have to get it taken back out because the screws start backing out and they start poking through the skin and makes it really painful.

   8. TTTrae Tha Truth16:41

      Oh.

   9. JRJoe Rogan16:41

      You know, especially if you're trying to kick or, or block kicks or punch or anything like that, so...

   10. TTTrae Tha Truth16:45

       Man, that's crazy. As much as a, a, a diehard UFC fan, my one thing about that is watching them kick, I don't understand how they don't, don't break their leg every time they kick. Even though I know they do different procedures to make it hard and-

   11. JRJoe Rogan17:00

       Yeah. The, the different procedures don't really prevent it. It just... It, it makes it definitely tough- tougher. Like, there's some Thai guys who have crazy shins 'cause they've been, like, kicking bamboo trees and, and, you know, kicking pads and heavy bags and bags with sand in them. They've been doing that their whole lives. So they have, like, really dense, like, really dense, um, shin bones and they just swat people with those like they're baseball bats.

   12. TTTrae Tha Truth17:26

       Yeah.

   13. JRJoe Rogan17:26

       There's this dude, uh, I think his name is Malapai and he was fighting in a lion fight and this dude would just go shin to shin with everybody, just kick them in the shins, just kick them in the shins. They just couldn't tolerate it. He would hit so fucking hard and just th- his bones were just so dense 'cause he'd been doing it forever. But even those guys, like, they have to be careful. Like, you know, I'm sure Anderson Silva has very dense bones, but he-

   14. TTTrae Tha Truth17:52

       I was just gonna say, that was one of the most-

   15. JRJoe Rogan17:54

       But that kick was crazy.

   16. TTTrae Tha Truth17:55

       Yeah.

   17. JRJoe Rogan17:56

       That was crazy to watch, like, an all-time great snap his leg like that, like, no. (sighs)

   18. TTTrae Tha Truth18:04

       You know, that was one of the favo- still one of the favorites, though. He...

   19. JRJoe Rogan18:07

       Oh, he's one of the greatest of all time.

   20. TTTrae Tha Truth18:09

       Yeah.

   21. JRJoe Rogan18:09

       One of the greatest of all time. He was a master at finding people's chins.

   22. TTTrae Tha Truth18:12

       Mm-hmm.

   23. JRJoe Rogan18:13

       He's just a master, master at like, finding when's the opening, blam. (laughs) He was so good, man.

   24. TTTrae Tha Truth18:19

       You know somebody that people slept on that if you had to be an original UFC fan, Vitor Belfort hands was probably some of the coldest-

   25. JRJoe Rogan18:28

       Oh, God.

   26. TTTrae Tha Truth18:28

       ... when he, when he was young coming in.

   27. JRJoe Rogan18:30

       Yeah. Nobody had hands like him at 19. He fought Trey Tellemann, that was his first fight in the UFC.

   28. TTTrae Tha Truth18:35

       I remember.

   29. JRJoe Rogan18:36

       And, um-

   30. TTTrae Tha Truth18:37

       He from Texas, right?
7. 23:04 – 35:09

   Derrick Lewis, Hurricane Harvey rescues, and Trae’s UFC connections

   1. TTTrae Tha Truth23:04

      Me and him, we saved a lot of lives together, um, during Hurricane Harvey. We, um, we went and took care of Beaumont, Port Arthur. Matter of fact, it's so crazy, I got a... My lifted truck out there, that's the reason I bought it. I bought it 'cause of him, 'cause at first I was doing rescues in boats and doing different stuff. But then Derrick came through in a lifted truck and we were going past the boats in the water, so at that point I ended up buying a truck. But, uh, we saved a lot of people together, you know. That's one of my-

   2. JRJoe Rogan23:32

      Mm-hmm.

   3. TTTrae Tha Truth23:32

      ... close, close brothers. That's why whenever y'all see me at the fights and he fighting, everybody be looking 'cause I be on my feet, "Yup."

   4. JRJoe Rogan23:38

      (laughs)

   5. TTTrae Tha Truth23:39

      Yeah, I'm like, "Crazy."

   6. JRJoe Rogan23:40

      No, Derrick's the man. He's hilarious.

   7. TTTrae Tha Truth23:43

      Yeah.

   8. JRJoe Rogan23:43

      I'll never forget when he took his shorts off.

   9. TTTrae Tha Truth23:45

      (laughs)

   10. JRJoe Rogan23:45

       I'm like, "Derrick, why are your shorts off?"

   11. TTTrae Tha Truth23:47

       (laughs)

   12. JRJoe Rogan23:47

       My balls is out.

   13. TTTrae Tha Truth23:48

       But it paid off 'cause now he got a Manscaped commercial.

   14. JRJoe Rogan23:50

       Yeah.

   15. TTTrae Tha Truth23:51

       (laughs)

   16. JRJoe Rogan23:51

       He should have a Manscaped commercial. He should have a whole campaign.

   17. TTTrae Tha Truth23:54

       Man...

   18. JRJoe Rogan23:54

       He's hilarious.

   19. TTTrae Tha Truth23:55

       ... I know.

   20. JRJoe Rogan23:56

       Yeah, it's a love the sport, huh? I mean, it's been... That's how I got to meet you, you know, from, uh, you coming to the fights.

   21. TTTrae Tha Truth24:02

       Yeah.

   22. JRJoe Rogan24:03

       But it's, uh... Yeah, I appreciate that you enjoy it too.

   23. TTTrae Tha Truth24:06

       Yeah. Shout-out Jon Anik too. You know, he, he for sure was... He like, "Man, you and Joe, I gotta get y'all two together, man."

   24. JRJoe Rogan24:13

       Did he say that?

   25. TTTrae Tha Truth24:13

       Yeah.

   26. JRJoe Rogan24:14

       Yeah.

   27. TTTrae Tha Truth24:14

       He definitely said that.

   28. JRJoe Rogan24:15

       Jon, Jon Anik is the man.

   29. TTTrae Tha Truth24:16

       He is my man.

   30. JRJoe Rogan24:16

       I love that dude. That guy's the, the best play-by-play commentator in the history of the sport. He's the best.
8. 35:09 – 38:43

   Bumpbox, speaker products, and the surprise world of pro cornhole

   1. JRJoe Rogan35:09

      Yeah. Then when you, um, first went to see one live, when was that?

   2. TTTrae Tha Truth35:16

      Oh. Crazy. I think, uh, Derrick had me come out to... It was in Houston. That was my first time. It was him. I was with him and, um, Jon Jones. And we were giving out... We actually gave out Bumpboxes too. And, um, from there, me and Dana got real close, and just the whole team, and it's been that way since. You know, I ended up doing a deal with Dana not long after, you know, as far as the licensing and stuff with Bumpbox. So that's why you see UFC across a lot of our stuff and a lot of our stuff within what they got going on.

   3. JRJoe Rogan35:54

      Oh, that's awesome. So you guys got a collaboration together?

   4. TTTrae Tha Truth35:57

      Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

   5. JRJoe Rogan35:57

      Yeah. That's beautiful.

   6. TTTrae Tha Truth35:59

      That's why you see me... Every time after fights, you'll see me backstage, but like, when we do the weigh-ins and stuff.

   7. JRJoe Rogan36:04

      Mm-hmm.

   8. TTTrae Tha Truth36:05

      Yeah, yeah. We make sure we take care of all the, um, fighters and other stuff.

   9. JRJoe Rogan36:08

      You know what's great that you gave me? That tumbler that has a speaker at the bottom of it?

   10. TTTrae Tha Truth36:12

       Yeah, yeah, yeah. We did a partnership with, um, Gronkowski for the, uh... And this, it's actually grown. People really still ain't even realizing it's a speaker on the cup. They just thinking it's a, a cool shaker cup, but nah.

   11. JRJoe Rogan36:23

       Yeah.

   12. TTTrae Tha Truth36:24

       It's something dope, man.

   13. JRJoe Rogan36:25

       It's a great idea.

   14. TTTrae Tha Truth36:26

       Well, actually, you know, you got the first, um... And Post probably gonna be mad 'cause I gotta get his, but you got, you got the first cornhole with the speakers. You know, we-

   15. JRJoe Rogan36:35

       Oh, really?

   16. TTTrae Tha Truth36:35

       We own the rights to that. Any cornhole that has any type of music on it, i- it... That's us, so.... we had a first, um, official cornhole with speakers on it, and you can pair them together. So, as you're playing the game, you can just vibe out.

   17. JRJoe Rogan36:51

       All right.

   18. TTTrae Tha Truth36:52

       Yeah.

   19. JRJoe Rogan36:53

       That's a great beach game.

   20. TTTrae Tha Truth36:55

       Definitely.

   21. JRJoe Rogan36:55

       But what, I can't believe it's on ESPN now.

   22. TTTrae Tha Truth36:56

       Tailgate, yeah, tailgate-

   23. JRJoe Rogan36:58

       Yeah.

   24. TTTrae Tha Truth36:58

       ... and, um, beach, yeah, just-

   25. JRJoe Rogan37:00

       Yeah. It's fun.

   26. TTTrae Tha Truth37:01

       Oh, it's a sport now on TV?

   27. JRJoe Rogan37:02

       I think it's on TV.

   28. JVJamie Vernon37:03

       Oh, yeah.

   29. JRJoe Rogan37:04

       Yeah.

   30. TTTrae Tha Truth37:04

       It is?
9. 38:43 – 42:57

   AI, streaming economics, and the fear of synthetic actors and voices

   1. TTTrae Tha Truth38:43

      Co- but COVID fucked up a lot of shit for everything, man. At this point, w- I realized just from helping so many people in the community in general, I realized how damaging it was. Business-wise, I watched how damaging it was because now y- if you pay attention to some of the new movies that come out, it just goes straight to streaming at this point.

   2. JRJoe Rogan39:05

      Yes.

   3. TTTrae Tha Truth39:06

      Yes. So I, I don't know if that helped money for the movies, but it seemed like it definitely hurt.

   4. JRJoe Rogan39:11

      I don't think it does, and I don't think it's good for the actors either. I think that's part of the strike. I'm kind of speaking out of turn here, 'cause I don't really know what the fuck I'm talking about. Uh, is that part of it, is that they want more money from streaming?

   5. JVJamie Vernon39:24

      Yeah, but it's a lot of the actors that, you know, are not top billed type people. You know, they get paid-

   6. JRJoe Rogan39:30

      Mm-hmm.

   7. JVJamie Vernon39:30

      ... one fee and then they're never going to get residuals.

   8. JRJoe Rogan39:32

      Right.

   9. JVJamie Vernon39:32

      So that they're trying to get some of those residuals and stuff's getting resold. That's definitely part of it and there's other things involved too.

   10. JRJoe Rogan39:38

       Bro, you know what they're doing that's wild? They're trying (laughs) some of these studios are trying to make people sign contracts if you do background work, where they can just use your likeness from then on. So they can repurpose you in other background scenes as CGI.

   11. TTTrae Tha Truth39:53

       Damn, they're like, kind of like them licensing your name-

   12. JRJoe Rogan39:56

       Yeah.

   13. TTTrae Tha Truth39:56

       ... as a permanently, I guess you would say.

   14. JRJoe Rogan39:58

       For like, nothing. (laughs)

   15. JVJamie Vernon40:00

       (laughs)

   16. TTTrae Tha Truth40:00

       Yeah. That's, that shit crazy.

   17. JRJoe Rogan40:02

       But that's, uh, the culture of, uh, you know, people that aren't stars over there in, in movies though, you know. Extras are not, they don't think about it that way. It's really interesting because like, they're going to be able to make movies with it. They're going to be able to make a movie with you, where you speak Chinese, and you, you know, you, you run an army somewhere. I mean, they can do whatever they want.

   18. TTTrae Tha Truth40:23

       Mm-hmm.

   19. JRJoe Rogan40:23

       They can, with, with CGI and with this new, uh, AI voice stuff, they can literally do whatever they want. And they can turn any person who's e- uh, already been in a bunch of films where they have your face, they could put you in all kinds of scenes. Like, we're real close to them not needing actors anymore.

   20. TTTrae Tha Truth40:42

       Yeah.

   21. JRJoe Rogan40:42

       Which is kind of weird.

   22. TTTrae Tha Truth40:43

       Yeah. And that's, and that, even just not just the actors, just even with us with music. You know, like, at first-

   23. JRJoe Rogan40:48

       Right.

   24. TTTrae Tha Truth40:48

       ... when they said something about it and they may say something about you can put a Michael Jackson and somebody else on the same record, you know, of course you'd be curious to be like, "Shit, dope. I wonder what that sound like?"

   25. JRJoe Rogan41:00

       Yeah.

   26. TTTrae Tha Truth41:00

       But then when you start thinking about it, they damn near won't really need us at, at some point because now they, they making your voice sound the same-

   27. JRJoe Rogan41:07

       Yeah.

   28. TTTrae Tha Truth41:07

       ... they're making you look the same, like it's just, that shit weird. But, one thing I know man, they, them, the, the bigger companies, they gonna find a way to block that shit somehow some way 'cause that's, that's taking all the money.

   29. JRJoe Rogan41:22

       It's definitely going to change things, right? Like, that Drake song that got put out that was a fake Drake song-

   30. TTTrae Tha Truth41:29

       Mm-hmm.
10. 42:57 – 57:10

    Future tech spiral: Neuralink, robots, flying taxis, self-driving Teslas, and Cybertruck hype

    1. JVJamie Vernon42:57

       They're doing, uh, the human, first human neural link, uh-

    2. JRJoe Rogan43:01

       Oh my God.

    3. JVJamie Vernon43:02

       ... person soon. And this is what Elon just tweeted an hour ago that, with that.

    4. JRJoe Rogan43:05

       "When a neural link is combined with Optimus robot limbs, the Luke Skywalker solution can be real... can become real." Holy fuck. Cl- click on that, man. Let me see that.

    5. JVJamie Vernon43:16

       This is threatening.

    6. JRJoe Rogan43:17

       Oh, this is actually-

    7. JVJamie Vernon43:17

       Yeah, yeah, yeah.

    8. JRJoe Rogan43:18

       Oh.

    9. JVJamie Vernon43:18

       It's just showing like what, what it would look like.

    10. JRJoe Rogan43:20

        I thought it really was that, man.

    11. TTTrae Tha Truth43:21

        That shit-

    12. JVJamie Vernon43:22

        Not yet.

    13. TTTrae Tha Truth43:22

        ... that shit could be dangerous.

    14. JRJoe Rogan43:24

        How come... Yeah, but probably one day, they'll just have a fake hand.

    15. JVJamie Vernon43:26

        Yeah. They're getting the first person. They're looking for someone with quadriplegia right now to do it.

    16. JRJoe Rogan43:31

        Whoa.

    17. JVJamie Vernon43:31

        Whether or not they found that person over the last few days, I don't know.

    18. JRJoe Rogan43:34

        Whoa. We are watching something. We're, we're watching the seeds of something that's going to overcome the human race.

    19. TTTrae Tha Truth43:43

        Yeah. And that shit is not good, though. That shit is... Just when you think about it. But of course, you know, you think that shit'll be far gone, past our time, but then you still gotta think of our kids and, and those generations, because it's definitely gonna be dangerous.

    20. JRJoe Rogan43:58

        It's definitely gonna be dangerous. But, um, yeah, they're gonna have... Our kids and their kids are gonna have a totally different world to live in.

    21. TTTrae Tha Truth44:05

        Yeah. Especially with, uh, who, you watch movies with the flying car shit. Now they really-

    22. JRJoe Rogan44:10

        Yeah.

    23. TTTrae Tha Truth44:10

        ... technically getting it together.

    24. JRJoe Rogan44:12

        That is the last thing you want. People have a hard enough time just slamming into each other on the street, on the ground.

    25. TTTrae Tha Truth44:18

        Yeah.

    26. JVJamie Vernon44:18

        ... just announced this yesterday that there's a flying taxi warehouse opening up in Ohio, uh-

    27. JRJoe Rogan44:23

        Whoa.

    28. JVJamie Vernon44:23

        ... next month or ne- next year, later this year.

    29. JRJoe Rogan44:25

        Whoa. I don't know where they're gonna fly them, but.

    30. TTTrae Tha Truth44:26

        Is it true they got one in New York?
11. 57:10 – 58:27

    Social platforms, online scams, and ‘your phone is listening’ ad targeting

    1. JRJoe Rogan57:10

       He's having fun. I like when billionaires have fun, you know? Do you use, uh, X?

    2. TTTrae Tha Truth57:16

       Uh, I mean, here and there. So, uh, most of the stuff that I put on Instagram, I just rehab it on there.

    3. JRJoe Rogan57:25

       Yeah.

    4. TTTrae Tha Truth57:25

       Yeah.

    5. JRJoe Rogan57:25

       Do you fuck with TikTok or any of the other ones too?

    6. TTTrae Tha Truth57:28

       I'm learning it, man. So I've been more of a hands-on Instagram, so I have people that do, like, my TikTok. I can get on it if I want to and, um, I still don't even know nothing about Facebook. I have people doing that for me too, so...

    7. JRJoe Rogan57:43

       Oh, right.

    8. TTTrae Tha Truth57:44

       I literally can... Whatever I post from Instagram, I just take it there, 'cause I, I don't know, I built my Instagram following to... That's just who I'm used to.

    9. JRJoe Rogan57:55

       Yeah.

    10. TTTrae Tha Truth57:56

        You know what I'm saying? What do you use more?

    11. JRJoe Rogan57:57

        I use Instagram most.

    12. TTTrae Tha Truth57:59

        Yeah.

    13. JRJoe Rogan58:00

        Yeah. But I love, uh, X for information. I still feel weird saying X.

    14. TTTrae Tha Truth58:05

        Yeah.

    15. JRJoe Rogan58:05

        Twitter, whatever. I like that for information. It's just always interesting, always interesting stuff coming up.

    16. TTTrae Tha Truth58:12

        Yeah.

    17. JRJoe Rogan58:12

        You know?

    18. TTTrae Tha Truth58:13

        I use Threads sometimes too. I... R- at this point, I just gotta keep up with the times.

    19. JRJoe Rogan58:17

        Yeah. That's the weird thing, right? It's like there's always gonna be some new thing that you have to keep up with, and you won't know about it-

    20. TTTrae Tha Truth58:23

        Yeah.

    21. JRJoe Rogan58:23

        ... 'til it's too late. Like, "What's that? What is, what are you guys doing over there?"

12. 58:27 – 1:09:50

    ‘Stuck In Motion’: album concept, release plan, and turning music into a film project

    1. TTTrae Tha Truth58:27

       But see, it work, the reason it work out for us, like... So I got my, um, m- And it's so crazy, I don't really get to put albums out. Like, you know, um, I l- I love my music, but every time I get ready to put a album out, a disaster hit or something happen and my energy and everything shift to that. So the music always get lost in the shuffle, and this the first time in a minute that nothing's really just distracting me. And, um, my album come out in October, October 20th matter of fact. Um, it's called Stuck in Motion, but being able to have the X, the TikTok, the all the... These are all different platforms that you really can use to promote, 'cause everybody don't use... You got some people that don't mess with Instagram and only use TikTok.

    2. JRJoe Rogan59:14

       Right.

    3. TTTrae Tha Truth59:14

       Some people now that... I don't know how, how heavy people are in the Threads, but some people only use X. So we found ways. We just use it for our benefit. You know what I'm saying?

    4. JRJoe Rogan59:26

       Just use everything.

    5. TTTrae Tha Truth59:27

       Yeah.

    6. JRJoe Rogan59:27

       Yeah.

    7. TTTrae Tha Truth59:27

       Everything we can at this point.

    8. JRJoe Rogan59:28

       Everything. Just keep throwing it out there.

    9. TTTrae Tha Truth59:30

       Yeah.

    10. JRJoe Rogan59:30

        That's great. Uh, it's great you've had that time to concentrate on your album too. That must be very exciting.

    11. TTTrae Tha Truth59:36

        Yeah, i- it is, man, because, you know... So this is the, the catch to the Smoke part, right? So, you know, everybody also have they, they thing, whatever. Some people may like to go work out to get out they frustration or whatever. Mine is I can vent through my music. You know, I, I done been through so much, I mastered just releasing it through my music, you know? And I... The way I paint the picture, you know, you have people actually feeling exactly how I feel at that moment, 'cause I, I'm not good at sitting up here like, "Man, joy, I had a terrible day today. This is going on. This, eh, uh..."

    12. JRJoe Rogan1:00:12

        Yeah.

    13. TTTrae Tha Truth1:00:12

        I don't feel comfortable, but if I do it through the music, it just, it's more relatable.

    14. JRJoe Rogan1:00:17

        Hmm.

    15. TTTrae Tha Truth1:00:17

        You know? I'm excited about it. Now, the funny thing, I'm gonna show you, I'll show you probably when we get off, I just did... I released a song called First Class, one of the first singles, 'cause I'm releasing singles every two weeks leading up to it. And in First Class I had, um, my, my bro Philly Flyboy shot it, and I had s- uh, some people, um, White Rhino VFX, they're from San Antonio, they edited my old school Cadillac drop to I'm flying around on a cloud. So it's just crazy. We were just talking about that shit, but-

    16. JRJoe Rogan1:00:51

        (laughs)

    17. TTTrae Tha Truth1:00:51

        ... super dope, man.

    18. JRJoe Rogan1:00:52

        Oh, that is cool.

    19. TTTrae Tha Truth1:00:53

        Yeah.

    20. JRJoe Rogan1:00:54

        Yeah. When, when you release this, does that... The beginning of a tour?

    21. TTTrae Tha Truth1:00:59

        Um-Right now, hopefully. I mean, you know, it... Man, believe it or not, even if we've been in the game for as long as we do, we'd still be nervous and don't really know what comes about. You never know what record... Like, when we- when I released the album, you never know what record people are gonna take to. We don't know if one gonna take off or if you gotta build it up. But, realistically, the goal is when it comes out to get ready to get on the road, you know?

    22. JRJoe Rogan1:01:25

        Mm.

    23. TTTrae Tha Truth1:01:25

        I love, that's one thing I love. The- my two main things, or three, is my kids, the music, and just helping people, man. So you know, like, those are three things that excite me. But other than that, I like- I just- I venture off and just try everything. I feel like you get zero results if you don't try it, you know?

    24. JRJoe Rogan1:01:46

        Well, that- that's a beautiful philosophy, the way you balance it all out. Y- that's a good thing 'cause, you know, a lot of us can get caught up in maybe o- one thing too much, you know? That just to have this idea of like your family, your job, everything, it's all... Everything deserves equal attention.

    25. TTTrae Tha Truth1:02:03

        Yeah. And, uh, you know, uh, man, it's... With life, like I just be so realistic with everything, man, because, you know, we all have our good days, we all have our bad days, we all mess up time and time, you know? And for me, it's just how we bounce back. And even with some of the hiccups I done had within the- the last year or two, you know, it's all learning experiences. But I feel like even with this album, the reason I named it Stuck In Motion was rather than me be dwelling on shit that I could've done different or shit I could've done better, or to be just held back or sad or just trying to... You know, a lot of the times we complain about a bunch of shit, and I feel like I'm at a point in my life now it's like, man, you just gotta accept stuff for what it is. So the reason I named it Stuck In Motion is regardless of what I'm going through, I'm still moving, I'ma keep it moving which- whichever direction I'm aimed at, that's where I'm going. So I'm stuck in motion. That was the purpose of it, man.

    26. JRJoe Rogan1:03:00

        That's a good name for it.

    27. TTTrae Tha Truth1:03:01

        Yeah.

    28. JRJoe Rogan1:03:02

        So, when you say you never know, like, how it's gonna be received, like, uh, but it's- is this your favorite?

    29. TTTrae Tha Truth1:03:09

        Um, I think it's definitely... It's gonna be an important one in my- in my catalog because, you know, I- I'm from the streets, so most of my music is always gonna be that. This album is more just good vibe. I think it's more growth and more universal where you could just, for those who smoke, you can put it on (laughs) and just light your blunt up or you just get in your car and ride. So, for me, it's important 'cause I just feel like it's a album of- of growth, you know? I'm just showing I'm unbothered and I'm living life, I'm enjoying life. And, you know, a lot of people don't really understand, man. It don't take... It's not just about money to enjoy life, you know? It's- it's what different things you have that- that bring peace to you. So I just think I'm at a point in life where I'm just enjoying life, you know? And that's wh- that's why I think it's gonna be so- so important for me. And, um, what I'm doing to it als- what I'm doing with it also that's gonna make it different is, I don't know if you seen, they say you can put out... Like I'm shooting a video for every song, but in between the songs, I wanna do little short movie skits so it'll be like from a start to a finish, like a- a whole project where I'm making, put it on Amazon or something like that.

    30. JRJoe Rogan1:04:23

        Oh, nice.
13. 1:09:50 – 2:08:14

    Fame, discipline, and learning not to react (plus unions and strikes)

    1. TTTrae Tha Truth1:09:50

       You know, man. I done ... When I tell you, I done just my career alone, I done been through a lot of shit, and I done had decades of bumping my head and then you may have the whole world turn against you, then you have to just keep pushing. It's like, I deal with so much different stuff, but that's one thing I don't stop doing, and every time, my blessings get bigger and bigger. Which I honestly think God put me through some of these processes because I feel like for me to go to the next level, he have to see if I'm really ready. So even now, like, one of my biggest things that's hard for me now is to imagine just not reacting to people, like, you know? 'Cause I'm one of them people, you can, you definitely can get under my skin. Like, imagine you at a, a UFC and somebody just ... You walk by and somebody like, "Oh, fuck you, Joe."

    2. JRJoe Rogan1:10:43

       (laughs)

    3. TTTrae Tha Truth1:10:44

       (laughs) You see ... Like, think about it now. You could do one of two things. You can, you can ignore it or you can be like, "Man, hold on. You got me fucked up." So-

    4. JRJoe Rogan1:10:53

       (laughs)

    5. TTTrae Tha Truth1:10:54

       (laughs) So, so dealing with phases or getting through ... That's all part of growth for, for what he got planned for me in the future, man, and that's, that's definitely a, a process of dealing.

    6. JRJoe Rogan1:11:05

       Yeah. That's a part of the thing that comes with fame, right?

    7. TTTrae Tha Truth1:11:10

       Yeah.

    8. JRJoe Rogan1:11:10

       There's gonna be a certain bunch of people that get mad at you.

    9. TTTrae Tha Truth1:11:13

       Yeah, definitely.

    10. JRJoe Rogan1:11:13

        For whatever reason, whether it's valid or not.

    11. TTTrae Tha Truth1:11:16

        Yeah. And I think, man, the, the hard part is dealing with it, because you have to deal with it, but the, the, the reality of it is, man, sometimes you got to get to a point, they going to think what they want to think regardless, man.

    12. JRJoe Rogan1:11:30

        Yes.

    13. TTTrae Tha Truth1:11:31

        And you got to just, you got to just keep it moving, you know? Even if you know their direct opinion or their direct thought may not necessarily be true, or it could be partially true. It may not even be ... It could be 5% true, but at the end of the day, it's like you can't even really waste your time just overexplaining it, 'cause it's still gonna be somebody out there that don't want to hear.

Episode duration: 2:14:40