Joe Rogan Experience #2041 - Steve Strope

1. 0:00 – 2:24

   Reuniting after 20 years: band rehearsal vibes and a Nova-themed gift

   1. JRJoe Rogan0:00

      (drumbeats) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out.

   2. NANarrator0:04

      The Joe Rogan Experience. (drumbeats)

   3. JRJoe Rogan0:06

      Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night. All day. (rock music plays)

   4. SSSteve Strope0:12

      Just had a set of these on at band rehearsal-

   5. JRJoe Rogan0:16

      Uh-oh.

   6. SSSteve Strope0:16

      ... on Sunday. (laughs)

   7. JRJoe Rogan0:17

      You look, you look like you just had band rehearsal.

   8. SSSteve Strope0:19

      That's right. (laughs)

   9. JRJoe Rogan0:20

      (laughs) I hate to make you feel old-

   10. SSSteve Strope0:22

       Yeah.

   11. JRJoe Rogan0:23

       ... but we've known each other for 20 years.

   12. SSSteve Strope0:26

       Okay.

   13. JRJoe Rogan0:26

       Dude.

   14. SSSteve Strope0:27

       Thanks. (laughs)

   15. JRJoe Rogan0:27

       How wild is that? How... Does time fly or what?

   16. SSSteve Strope0:31

       Yeah, that's-

   17. JRJoe Rogan0:32

       We've been friends for 20 years.

   18. SSSteve Strope0:33

       That's pretty ter... Really?

   19. JRJoe Rogan0:35

       20 years.

   20. SSSteve Strope0:35

       I've been... Uh, you know what I did? I, I also experienced the odd time continuum to brief myself for this. I'm like, "I should probably look back when I did this, this, and this, and this, that, and the other thing I'm going." I'm like, "Crap, I forgot all..." (laughs) Then now that was like 2004. Are you kidding me?

   21. JRJoe Rogan0:54

       2004 seems so long ago.

   22. SSSteve Strope0:57

       Yeah.

   23. JRJoe Rogan0:57

       That was the Fear Factor days.

   24. SSSteve Strope0:59

       Yeah. And that's-

   25. JRJoe Rogan1:00

       That's, that's like right around when I met you, when, uh, when I brought the, the Barracuda to you.

   26. SSSteve Strope1:06

       Fish.

   27. JRJoe Rogan1:06

       Yeah.

   28. SSSteve Strope1:07

       Yeah. It, it, like... 'Cause you... Yeah, 'cause it was... Well, I have my handy cheat sheet here (laughs) because there's-

   29. JRJoe Rogan1:16

       You, you actually made a cheat sheet to prepare for this?

   30. SSSteve Strope1:18

       Well, there's, there's... Uh, dude, I got pa-
2. 2:24 – 5:06

   Why Joe’s ’69 Nova works: subtle body mods, suspension choices, and “nothing looks modified”

   1. JRJoe Rogan2:24

      I mean, it's not just so cool looking, like it drives so well. The independent suspension, the way you set it up, was it Art Morrison? Art Morrison's-

   2. SSSteve Strope2:33

      Yeah, Morrison stuff, uh, I went a little s- uh, softer on the spring in the front and believe it or not, a little stiffer on the rear, um, and played with it quite a few times before-

   3. JRJoe Rogan2:46

      It's magnificent.

   4. SSSteve Strope2:46

      ... I delivered it to you that-

   5. JRJoe Rogan2:48

      It's magnificent.

   6. SSSteve Strope2:49

      Yeah, I, I was very... Uh, 'cause I set it up, I didn't set it up for track attack, 'cause that's not what you're gonna do with it.

   7. JRJoe Rogan2:54

      Right. No, I'm just gonna cruise around in it.

   8. SSSteve Strope2:55

      Right, so I set it up, so when you go over those little joints in the road, uh, going onto a bridge, it doesn't-

   9. JRJoe Rogan3:02

      Just leave that up in the background, Jamie.

   10. SSSteve Strope3:03

       (laughs)

   11. JRJoe Rogan3:04

       It's really simple. Just leave that there.

   12. SSSteve Strope3:05

       That was the amazing, uh-

   13. JRJoe Rogan3:07

       Look at that.

   14. SSSteve Strope3:07

       ... photography of Wes Allison.

   15. JRJoe Rogan3:09

       Wes Allison, you're the shit.

   16. SSSteve Strope3:11

       He is the shit.

   17. JRJoe Rogan3:12

       That's a, that's a great picture.

   18. SSSteve Strope3:12

       Yep, beautiful.

   19. JRJoe Rogan3:13

       Uh, I think I need, uh, get, uh, one of, a steel version of that picture, put it up on our... Yeah, let's do that.

   20. NANarrator3:18

       How big do you want it? (laughs)

   21. SSSteve Strope3:19

       Yeah.

   22. JRJoe Rogan3:19

       I don't know, pretty big. It's, it-

   23. SSSteve Strope3:21

       It's, it-

   24. JRJoe Rogan3:21

       We need a big one, right, just to see the details?

   25. SSSteve Strope3:22

       It's, uh, it came out real nice, and the, the funny thing is, or the... I don't know about funny, but the, uh, point of it was, is there's so much done and none of it looks like anything was done.

   26. JRJoe Rogan3:32

       Yeah, it really does look like just a really cool 1969 car if you don't know the manipulation that you guys did to the sheet metal.

   27. SSSteve Strope3:40

       Uh, well then not only that, the, the grille is changed.

   28. JRJoe Rogan3:43

       Yeah.

   29. SSSteve Strope3:43

       The, the, the, the little headlight doors on the side, those are changed. I'd, I used to, uh, I would joke with different Nova people and go, "I'll give you 100 bucks if you can tell me what I changed in the front." And they're like-

   30. JRJoe Rogan3:53

       Oh, wow.
3. 5:06 – 7:47

   Underrated muscle cars and shifting perceptions of “old”

   1. JRJoe Rogan5:06

      That car is just so unique. It's such a, uh, you know, it's... And I think it's one of those muscle cars that have really never got its due because it kinda started out as more of an economy kind of a car.

   2. SSSteve Strope5:16

      Oh, yeah. Mm-hmm.

   3. JRJoe Rogan5:17

      Yeah.

   4. SSSteve Strope5:17

      Yeah.

   5. JRJoe Rogan5:18

      And Nova-

   6. SSSteve Strope5:18

      It was-

   7. JRJoe Rogan5:19

      Yeah, Nova wasn't like... You know, if you had a Barracuda, you were the fucking man.

   8. SSSteve Strope5:22

      (laughs) Right?

   9. JRJoe Rogan5:23

      But if you had a Nova, it's like, "Oh, you couldn't afford a Barracuda."

   10. SSSteve Strope5:25

       (laughs)

   11. JRJoe Rogan5:25

       Like, if you had a Duster-

   12. SSSteve Strope5:26

       Unless you had the Nova SS with the 396, but those were few and far between. There weren't a lot of people that ordered that.

   13. JRJoe Rogan5:32

       When I was a kid, this kid, uh, in our high school had a Duster. What was the other one? There was a Duster, there's a Do-

   14. SSSteve Strope5:39

       Dart.

   15. JRJoe Rogan5:40

       A Dart, yeah. He had a Duster.

   16. SSSteve Strope5:41

       Or a Valiant.

   17. JRJoe Rogan5:42

       Yeah, and nobody gave it any respect.

   18. SSSteve Strope5:44

       (laughs)

   19. JRJoe Rogan5:45

       I was like, "That's a cool car."

   20. SSSteve Strope5:46

       Mm-hmm.

   21. JRJoe Rogan5:46

       Like, "What's wrong with you people?" But there was like this thing where like some of those older cars were less desirable. So I'm in high school in... So I graduated in '85, so we're talking about, I think, I think my friend had this car in like '84.So, you know, it really was only 14 years old.

   22. SSSteve Strope6:06

       Mm-hmm.

   23. JRJoe Rogan6:07

       Which is kind of crazy.

   24. SSSteve Strope6:08

       Yes, it is.

   25. JRJoe Rogan6:09

       That's super crazy.

   26. SSSteve Strope6:11

       (laughs) Like, '86-

   27. JRJoe Rogan6:12

       'Cause-

   28. SSSteve Strope6:12

       ... when we were driving around, a, uh, '68 was only, what, 17, 18, no, 18 years old.

   29. JRJoe Rogan6:18

       Right.

   30. SSSteve Strope6:18

       Wasn't an old car, not-
4. 7:47 – 9:34

   Stem cells, longevity headlines, and the fear of living (and working) to 120

   1. JRJoe Rogan7:47

      I got some stem cells today.

   2. SSSteve Strope7:49

      I did?

   3. JRJoe Rogan7:49

      But, yeah. I was r- I was reading this thing, th- this here. I'll send it to you, Jamie. But, uh, they believe now that through stem cell technology, they're going to be able to, uh, extend lifespan far greater. And the article said something about, like, having people work until they're 120, which is, like, not a good selling point.

   4. SSSteve Strope8:10

      (laughs) Yeah.

   5. JRJoe Rogan8:12

      Later, I'll send it to you, Jamie.

   6. SSSteve Strope8:12

      Hey, you could suffer longer.

   7. JRJoe Rogan8:14

      Yeah.

   8. SSSteve Strope8:15

      (laughs)

   9. JRJoe Rogan8:15

      "Hey, you can hate what you do longer." You got it already? Oh, there it is. "Will be living and working to 120, and it will start within a decade," says doctor to The Star. So it doesn't, they're not necessarily saying you'll be working until you're 120, but living and working.

   10. SSSteve Strope8:28

       Mm-hmm.

   11. JRJoe Rogan8:29

       So this guy is, uh, using stem cells, uh, "I believe we can c- create prolongation of life," von Schwarz says. That sounds like-

   12. SSSteve Strope8:38

       Yeah.

   13. JRJoe Rogan8:38

       ... the beginning-

   14. SSSteve Strope8:38

       (laughs)

   15. JRJoe Rogan8:38

       ... of every horror movie. "We believe we can have prolonging of life."

   16. SSSteve Strope8:43

       "We can do it."

   17. JRJoe Rogan8:44

       Dun, dun, dun.

   18. SSSteve Strope8:46

       Oh, goody.

   19. JRJoe Rogan8:46

       "Probably within a couple years, people can live to be 120, 150 years old, if not longer than that. It's not just bed-bound, non-communicating individuals, but really active individuals who participate in social life, professional life, and have a quality of life."

   20. SSSteve Strope9:01

       Mm-hmm.

   21. JRJoe Rogan9:01

       'Cause that's the goal.

   22. SSSteve Strope9:02

       Mm.

   23. JRJoe Rogan9:02

       Yeah. I'm in. Let's go.

   24. SSSteve Strope9:04

       (laughs)

   25. JRJoe Rogan9:04

       I'm, I'm enjoying life. You know, I'm enjoying, uh, doing stuff. And, uh, my friends that are, um, older, that are having, like, health problems, it really makes me realize, like, man, you gotta stay on top of everything. 'Cause if you don't, if it slides off and then you have to try to bring it back up, it's way harder than maintaining.

   26. SSSteve Strope9:24

       I, yeah, I'm, yeah, yeah. You know, the stem cell thing, uh, if he could, if, if Von Doom there could get on, uh...

   27. JRJoe Rogan9:31

       On the eyeball stuff.

   28. SSSteve Strope9:32

       ... fixing the eyeball-

   29. JRJoe Rogan9:32

       Yeah.

   30. SSSteve Strope9:32

       ... I'd be very appreciative. (laughs)

5. 9:34 – 16:55

   Steve’s eye nightmare: metal shards, glaucoma, cataracts, and a retina that wouldn’t stay attached

   1. JRJoe Rogan9:34

      Th- what hav- do they, let's tell everybody what happened to you, because this is a crazy thing. Um-

   2. SSSteve Strope9:39

      Oh.

   3. JRJoe Rogan9:40

      ... yeah. It's a real bummer, right? You-

   4. SSSteve Strope9:42

      Yeah.

   5. JRJoe Rogan9:42

      ... uh, just out of nowhere, started seeing dark spots, right?

   6. SSSteve Strope9:46

      No. Wha- what happened was, well, little background. I had already, um, (laughs) stage one was going in to your local doctor eye guy because you have metal in your eye.

   7. JRJoe Rogan9:57

      Oh, wow.

   8. SSSteve Strope9:58

      'Cause that's some of the fun that happens. Even when you're wearing safety glasses. All the haters, calm down. We wear safety glasses in the shop.

   9. JRJoe Rogan10:06

      How does it get in? It just-

   10. SSSteve Strope10:06

       Oh, it just bounces around. You know, you're working with a carbide bit spinning at, you know, 15,000 RPM, stuff bounces around. But since then, I ha- I ve- I've been using (laughs) I found this place in France that makes these mot- antique motorcycle World War I aircraft goggles-

   11. JRJoe Rogan10:23

       Like the Nazis used-

   12. SSSteve Strope10:24

       ... that seal-

   13. JRJoe Rogan10:24

       ... to use for duels?

   14. SSSteve Strope10:25

       (laughs) I, I don't know that one.

   15. JRJoe Rogan10:28

       You don't know that one?

   16. SSSteve Strope10:28

       But it, but it seals to your eyes, and it's got little vents in it so they don't fog up.

   17. JRJoe Rogan10:33

       Oh.

   18. SSSteve Strope10:33

       So, but anyway, I got metal in my eye, which is, uh, uh, for those of you who haven't done it, it's lots of fun. Um, you hold still. You're wide awake, and they come at you with a Dremel drill bit, and they drill it out.

   19. JRJoe Rogan10:45

       Oh, Jesus.

   20. SSSteve Strope10:46

       And so, and you, and the, and the instructions are hold still.

   21. JRJoe Rogan10:49

       Don't move.

   22. SSSteve Strope10:50

       Right.

   23. JRJoe Rogan10:50

       Oh, my God.

   24. SSSteve Strope10:51

       I mean, they put a numbing drop in, but-

   25. JRJoe Rogan10:53

       So what?

   26. SSSteve Strope10:53

       ... you still see the drill bit coming.

   27. JRJoe Rogan10:55

       Oh, my God.

   28. SSSteve Strope10:55

       And you, easy, easy. You can handle... (laughs)

   29. JRJoe Rogan10:58

       Oh, my God.

   30. SSSteve Strope10:59

       The stuff you've been th- through, I'm sure you could handle it.
6. 16:55 – 31:54

   Adapting to one-eye life—and searching for next-step treatments

   1. JRJoe Rogan16:55

      Do you know who Michael Bisping is?

   2. SSSteve Strope16:57

      No, sir.

   3. JRJoe Rogan16:58

      Michael Bisping is one of the toughest human beings that's ever walked the face of the earth.

   4. SSSteve Strope17:02

      Fair enough.

   5. JRJoe Rogan17:02

      This is what I s- And not just because he was a UFC middleweight champion, but because Michael Bisping fought the last 10 fights of his UFC career, including winning the title, blind in one eye, and he didn't tell them. He hid it.

   6. SSSteve Strope17:16

      Oh, I heard about that.

   7. JRJoe Rogan17:17

      Yeah. He hid it.

   8. SSSteve Strope17:18

      He didn't tell anybody.

   9. JRJoe Rogan17:20

      So, do you know how gangster you have to be to wanna be fighting the best fighters in the world? Dan Henderson.

   10. SSSteve Strope17:25

       And, and not being able to see over here.

   11. JRJoe Rogan17:26

       Anderson Silva. And you can't see outta one eye. Like his, his one eye is gone, man.

   12. SSSteve Strope17:32

       Yeah. I understand.

   13. JRJoe Rogan17:33

       Which is fighting world class fighters, that you can see his right eye is completely missing. It's like, it's just foggy.

   14. SSSteve Strope17:41

       Yeah.

   15. JRJoe Rogan17:41

       He wears like a little thing that goes over it like a lens, so it looks normal. But, uh, he's a fucking-

   16. SSSteve Strope17:47

       Ooh.

   17. JRJoe Rogan17:47

       ... stud. That guy fought 10 fights with one eye. I mean, just to think of fighting with two eyes is fucking terrifying.

   18. SSSteve Strope17:54

       Yeah.

   19. JRJoe Rogan17:54

       And fighting against the best guys in the world. And he wins the title, knocks out Luke Rockhold with one eye.

   20. SSSteve Strope18:00

       Yeah. Well, it, it took a lot. I, I would sit there and practice, like...... basketball into, uh, garbage cans just to try to retain the, um-

   21. JRJoe Rogan18:10

       Depth perception, right?

   22. SSSteve Strope18:10

       ... depth perception and-

   23. JRJoe Rogan18:11

       That's the real issue, right?

   24. SSSteve Strope18:12

       Yeah. It's, it's difficult. And then also, it's, it's frustrating when your, uh... So, so, uh, well, anyway, the, the fun... I'll, I'll interrupt myself to continue with the fun. (clears throat) So, now I'm where I'm at, right? And they're like, "Your other eye is gonna need cataract surgery."

   25. JRJoe Rogan18:30

       Oh, Jesus Christ.

   26. SSSteve Strope18:31

       And I'm like... So I did ask when the retina fell off, "Hey, did the cataract surgery have anything to do with that? Possibly?" You know? And every doctor and every specialist and everybody I talked to all said the same thing. I'm paraphrasing. "Well, any procedure on your eye may, could, might, possibly have the possibility of-"

   27. JRJoe Rogan18:55

       Like one of them commercials for like a pharmaceutical drug.

   28. SSSteve Strope18:57

       Oh, how ... You know, so it's like, "Did the operation on your eye cause the retina fall off? Uh, anything could. Maybe." (laughs)

   29. JRJoe Rogan19:08

       Anything. Anything could maybe.

   30. SSSteve Strope19:09

       So, anyway, so now I've gotta have cataract surgery on this one. I got a great guy, he's one of the best in the West Coast, uh, et cetera, et cetera. We do the surgery, and there is a mistake in... 'Cause they account for my pressures. They try to keep the pressures low 'cause of my glaucoma. Well, they went a little too far and my pressures were down to... Your normal eyes run, like your eyes probably run at like 20, 22, you know, maybe even a little bit higher, but right around there for pressure inside. We'll call it, we'll call it air pressure, you know. It's not the right term, but... So, mine, with medication, we keep it down at like 13 and 12, right?
7. 31:54 – 34:00

   From longevity to immortality: brain-in-a-robot hypotheticals and spiritual questions

   1. JRJoe Rogan31:54

      We're, we're fucking 10 years, 20 years away, max, from them being able to suck your brain out of your head and put it in a robot.

   2. SSSteve Strope32:00

      Oh, good. That'd be great.

   3. JRJoe Rogan32:02

      They're gonna give you a Steve Strope robot.

   4. SSSteve Strope32:04

      That'll be terrific.

   5. JRJoe Rogan32:05

      It'll be like Ken from the Barbie movie.

   6. SSSteve Strope32:07

      (laughs) I hope not.

   7. JRJoe Rogan32:10

      Yeah, and the new... The first ones won't be able to feel real pleasure, and so you have to sign off on that. But then the- the next ones, the better ones will.

   8. SSSteve Strope32:16

      But that's where this is going?

   9. JRJoe Rogan32:17

      So you have to decide whether or not you're gonna get another surgery. You're gonna get your... They've never removed a brain from one robot and put it in another robot, you know that right? Yeah, but they pretty much... They know how to do it. They know... They're pretty good at it.

   10. SSSteve Strope32:28

       Uh, uh, who's they? (laughs)

   11. JRJoe Rogan32:30

       These new people in the future, the- the robot-

   12. SSSteve Strope32:32

       Oh.

   13. JRJoe Rogan32:32

       ... brain scientists.

   14. SSSteve Strope32:33

       Oh, good. Yeah. (laughs)

   15. JRJoe Rogan32:34

       Would you opt in for that, or would you rather just, for- say, "Let's see what's next?"

   16. SSSteve Strope32:37

       (sighs) .

   17. JRJoe Rogan32:38

       Let's let the lights go dim and see what's next.

   18. SSSteve Strope32:42

       All right. Good question.

   19. JRJoe Rogan32:43

       It's a good question.

   20. SSSteve Strope32:44

       I don't know. I don't know.

   21. JRJoe Rogan32:46

       It's hard to say, 'cause everybody's scared to die, but no one's scared of sleep.

   22. SSSteve Strope32:52

       Hmm, that's a good statement.

   23. JRJoe Rogan32:53

       Yeah, it's weird.

   24. SSSteve Strope32:55

       Well, 'cause you're expecting, the odds are you're waking up.

   25. JRJoe Rogan32:57

       You should be expecting the other one, too.

   26. SSSteve Strope32:59

       Hm.

   27. JRJoe Rogan33:00

       You know?

   28. SSSteve Strope33:01

       True.

   29. JRJoe Rogan33:01

       It comes for all of us.

   30. SSSteve Strope33:03

       Yeah, that's the, uh, great equalizer, is it not?
8. 34:00 – 42:11

   Apalachin, New York and the infamous 1957 Mafia meeting (plus Hoover rumors)

   1. SSSteve Strope34:00

      Appalakin, New York is a very s-

   2. JRJoe Rogan34:02

      Oh, New York. Okay.

   3. SSSteve Strope34:02

      Very small farm town in Upstate New York, still has a red light at the end of it where it meets 434.

   4. JRJoe Rogan34:08

      Okay.

   5. SSSteve Strope34:08

      Has a post office and a fire station.

   6. JRJoe Rogan34:12

      Okay.

   7. SSSteve Strope34:13

      And known for a very important large mafia bus in 1957. There's also-

   8. JRJoe Rogan34:18

      A mafia bus.

   9. SSSteve Strope34:19

      There's actually a paperback and a movie about Appalakin.

   10. JRJoe Rogan34:23

       W- what's the, what's the movie or paperback? W-

   11. SSSteve Strope34:25

       Appalakin.

   12. JRJoe Rogan34:26

       It's just called Appalakin?

   13. SSSteve Strope34:27

       Mm. Yes.

   14. JRJoe Rogan34:27

       Yeah.

   15. SSSteve Strope34:28

       Yes, sir.

   16. JRJoe Rogan34:28

       And it's all about the mob?

   17. SSSteve Strope34:29

       It's a huge bust.

   18. JRJoe Rogan34:32

       Look at that. On this day in 1957, the FBI finally had to admit that the mafia existed.

   19. SSSteve Strope34:37

       They were all gathered in a farmhouse, the, the leaders of the main mob families, and they were basically working out, um, j- jurisdictions, properties.

   20. GUGuest34:49

       A fun... I think... I was researching some stuff one time and I stumbled across this meeting happened after a failed meeting in Cleveland-

   21. SSSteve Strope34:57

       Hm.

   22. GUGuest34:57

       ... 'cause the F- the Cleveland family fucked up the meeting and they got mad, said, like, "Fuck it, we're doing it in New York."

   23. SSSteve Strope35:01

       Yep. They did it, and so the, the two sheriffs just saw these black Cadillacs and Lincolns going up to this farmhouse. And I think i- if, uh, memory serves me right, they kind of fucked up and all panicked and ran into the woods, in fact, that day.

   24. JRJoe Rogan35:15

       (laughs)

   25. SSSteve Strope35:15

       No, they did do that. But if they would- just would have said, "Hey, we're just hanging out."

   26. JRJoe Rogan35:19

       Right.

   27. SSSteve Strope35:20

       Tha- what are you gonna prove? But they all bailed and they r- ran into the, the... If I remember right, they're coming out of the woods near where my dad, where my grandma's house was. That was a dirt road back then. And I could take you there. The house is on top of a little hill behind the area where we have our Fireman's Field Days every, (laughs) every year. Now-

   28. JRJoe Rogan35:37

       ... state troopers noticed all the fancy cars parked in Barbara's driveway and started taking down license plate numbers. Some have suggested that, how hard, uh, back then, in the '50s, to have- you get a license plate number, what is it, like a week-

   29. SSSteve Strope35:49

       (laughs)

   30. JRJoe Rogan35:49

       ... until you find out who's fucking car it is? You know what I mean? Uh, it suggests that one of the Genovese rivals tipped the cops in hopes of spoiling Genovese's crown ceremony. Oh, God. The assembled mafioso noticed this and began to panic. Some fled into the woods, some hid in- in the basement. Others ran to their cars and tried to drive away. The troopers caught about 60 of them. (laughs) When questioned, many insisted they were there for a barbecue.
9. 42:11 – 53:24

   Food, wheat, glyphosate, and the ocean: why modern eating feels ‘off’

   1. JRJoe Rogan42:11

      What's crazy is the difference between their food here and their food in Italy. It's like-

   2. NANarrator42:15

      It's, it's, it's, it's gone on its own, um, shoot.

   3. JRJoe Rogan42:18

      Yeah, but that's not what I mean. I mean, in terms of like what it does to your body.

   4. NANarrator42:21

      Hmm.

   5. JRJoe Rogan42:21

      Like, I would really like (laughs) some fucking science to be done on it.

   6. NANarrator42:25

      (laughs)

   7. JRJoe Rogan42:25

      Like, what is happening? You go to Italy, you eat their pasta, you don't feel bad at all. You come to America, you feel like you ate a bowl of glue.

   8. NANarrator42:33

      (laughs)

   9. JRJoe Rogan42:33

      It's just, I'm like, "Oh my God, I can't move."

   10. NANarrator42:36

       A bowl of glue, sir.

   11. JRJoe Rogan42:37

       I can't move. There's something about their bread-

   12. NANarrator42:39

       (clears throat)

   13. JRJoe Rogan42:39

       ... is different. Th- Apparently, they have heirloom wheat, they have different wheat before we started fucking with it. We should unfuck the wheat, kids.

   14. NANarrator42:46

       (laughs)

   15. JRJoe Rogan42:46

       Because (laughs) I know it's like higher yield, but-

   16. NANarrator42:49

       Joe Rogan's new Unfuck the Wheat program.

   17. JRJoe Rogan42:51

       This is what I think. But, uh, you know, there's also some people that believe that one of the things that we're experiencing when people have, like, gluten intolerance, is an intolerance to, to wheat, is actually ... You might be getting glyphosate from it. Th- th- this is a j- highly speculative theory, but they've tested people, and they found out that ... What was it, Jamie, like 94% of people? 94% of people have, uh, glyphosate in their body, and glyphosate is toxic. It's a, it's a, an herbicide? Yeah, it's an herbicide. And-

   18. NANarrator43:20

       Is it 'cause what we do to plant and grow wheat?

   19. JRJoe Rogan43:22

       Yes.

   20. NANarrator43:23

       Okay.

   21. JRJoe Rogan43:23

       Well, we grow corn. You know, Monsanto created it, and they created a, a corn that, that is, uh, immune to it. So you eat, like, this Monsanto corn, and they can spray glyphosate on it, and it kills everything else. It kills all the bad weeds, and you just get the nice corn.

   22. NANarrator43:40

       Okay.

   23. JRJoe Rogan43:41

       The problem is, that stuff gets in everyone's body in some small amount, and the question is, like, is your body able to filter out the amount that it has in it? Like, what's the to- what's the toxic level? Are we below the fear? Is it fearmongering? Because, like, there's a certain amount of tox- metals that you're gonna get just from eating sushi. If you get s- some salmon or some tuna, rather, from the Pacific Ocean, there's real high possibility that you could get mercury in it, some amount.

   24. NANarrator44:08

       Hmm.

   25. JRJoe Rogan44:08

       Right? Isn't it like-

   26. NANarrator44:10

       Sure.

   27. JRJoe Rogan44:10

       What's the prevalence of, uh, toxic metals in tuna? Let's just guess. 'Cause I think ... I have a friend, I don't want to mention his name, but he's brilliant, and he won't eat fish from the Pacific anymore. And I said, "Why?" And he said, "Fukushima." He said they're, they're literally dumping this n- nuclear water into the ocean, and we don't know what's gonna happen. We don't know what effect this is gonna have. We don't know the, the ocean's just gonna easily absorb it or whether it's gonna kill fish. We don't know if it's gonna contaminate them, if they're gonna have levels of radiation. He was freaking me out.

   28. NANarrator44:50

       Oh, no, boy.

   29. JRJoe Rogan44:51

       And he's a lot smarter than me.

   30. NANarrator44:52

       (clears throat) Oh, well. That's all right. You're an honest man.
10. 53:24 – 1:03:22

    Steve’s origin story: moving to California, near-disaster jobs, and a magazine-featured ’67 El Camino

    1. SSSteve Strope53:24

       So, I was, I was going to springboard (clears throat) off of Apalachin, 'cause that's from whence I came.

    2. JRJoe Rogan53:30

       Dude, you know how to stay on track. I love it.

    3. SSSteve Strope53:32

       I- (laughs) So, how I came...... to be here with you, backtracking to shop, backtracking for, from California, starting in New York, in our pre-mentioned Apalachin. Um, by the way, Apalachin, weird, stupid, uh, background. Apalachin and Apalachin, the only difference is the amount of Ps in the name.

    4. JRJoe Rogan53:59

       Oh, really?

    5. SSSteve Strope54:00

       Yeah.

    6. JRJoe Rogan54:00

       Which one has more Ps?

    7. SSSteve Strope54:02

       Apalachin.

    8. JRJoe Rogan54:04

       Hmm. Okay.

    9. SSSteve Strope54:05

       They're bo- mine is A-P-A-L-A-C-H-I-N.

    10. JRJoe Rogan54:08

        People, that must be annoying that people confuse those two with you, and you have to explain it every goddamn time.

    11. SSSteve Strope54:12

        I try to stay away from it. (laughs)

    12. JRJoe Rogan54:13

        Yeah. Just say small town New York.

    13. SSSteve Strope54:15

        Yeah, right. It's easier. Right. So, um, I'm tinkering on cars in Apalachin. I'm spending most of my time, uh, onstage playing. Um, cars were my drop-dead hobby, loved it. Um, a- a- at night backstage, I'd be reading my new issue of Hot Rod with my little glass of ice water. (laughs) You know, couldn't wait for my new issue, and I'd go to as many car shows as I could go to, uh, during the summer. And, um, the quick version is a real good friend of mine, Shawn Davis from Canada, said, "Hey, we're gonna go to this sh- show up in, um, in Rhinebeck, New York, and there's gonna be a guy there we're gonna meet. I met him at a big show in Indy, and he's gonna make me a billet steering wheel to match my Boyd wheels." This is where all the car guys can pay attention. And so, um, we went to the said show, met this guy, Jim. Um, wound up going to dinner with him, and the guy's like, "You know, I'm a machinist. I got a place in Riverside, California. I should be back there making parts. I need somebody to, like, go around the country and sell this stuff." (laughs) And Shawn goes, slaps me on the back, goes, "Greatest salesman right here." And I'm like going, "Uh, uh, uh, what?" And that turned into a conversation, and it turned into me, like, not letting go of it. Sold everything I had, moved, got out here to Riverside, got there, guy had already been ev- in- ev- evicted out of his apartment. So, I've got nowhere to live, I'm now living, uh, at one of his employee's houses.

    14. JRJoe Rogan55:45

        Oh, boy.

    15. SSSteve Strope55:46

        And, um, we're working along, been there about a month or so. And, um, the federal marshals show up. They're not in a good mood at all.

    16. JRJoe Rogan55:59

        What are they looking for?

    17. SSSteve Strope56:00

        I don't know, but I'm like, "Here's my driver's license. I just got here. I don't-"

    18. JRJoe Rogan56:04

        What, what kind of questions are they asking you?

    19. SSSteve Strope56:05

        They are not asking me shit. They're walking around with clipboards and looking at what I thought, because I stayed away from it, I thought they were checking serial numbers on the CNC machines.

    20. JRJoe Rogan56:15

        Oh.

    21. SSSteve Strope56:16

        That's what I thought. I have no pro- uh-

    22. JRJoe Rogan56:18

        Okay, I, I understand.

    23. SSSteve Strope56:19

        So, what I know-

    24. JRJoe Rogan56:20

        So, they thought maybe there was some stolen machine parts.

    25. SSSteve Strope56:21

        Or something-

    26. JRJoe Rogan56:22

        Right.

    27. SSSteve Strope56:22

        ... 'cause federal marshals don't come out for-

    28. JRJoe Rogan56:24

        Got it.

    29. SSSteve Strope56:25

        ... for a party. So anyway, um-

    30. JRJoe Rogan56:27

        How's that turn out?
11. 1:03:22 – 1:11:31

    Building ‘Scully’ in an underground parking garage: the Pure Vision breakthrough

    1. SSSteve Strope1:03:22

       Uh, maybe. So, um, on the corner of Laurel Canyon and Ventura Boulevard, down in Studio City, there, right now, it's still a FedEx office, but it was a Kinko's. The Kinko's was where Pure Vision begat.

    2. JRJoe Rogan1:03:37

       Mm.

    3. SSSteve Strope1:03:38

       I was there photocopying my magazine features, and I had my friend, Matt Willoughby, in Ohio draw this idea of this '66 Charger that was called Scully, um, 'cause that's what the pros do. They add artwork first.

    4. JRJoe Rogan1:03:50

       Right.

    5. SSSteve Strope1:03:50

       And I went to Hot Rod and said, "Hey, uh, you guys thought I was cool before, and I built the car that you featured, and I'm gonna build this thing, and I'm gonna show up on your Power Tour, right? And I'm gonna use these parts, all these people that sponsor your Power Tour."

    6. JRJoe Rogan1:04:04

       Is that you as a young man? Is that this voice that you're doing?

    7. SSSteve Strope1:04:07

       Yeah, yeah, who knows? Or an idiot, whatever I am.

    8. JRJoe Rogan1:04:09

       Okay.

    9. SSSteve Strope1:04:09

       So I go over to all the potential sponsors. All right, I'll sound more official.

    10. JRJoe Rogan1:04:12

        No, just, uh, yourself.

    11. SSSteve Strope1:04:13

        I go, go over all the sponsor potential guys and go, "Hey..." I, I had to mail. There was no email, so I mailed these packets of color photocopies (laughs) of my, my El Camino that's been in the prior magazines proving, like, "Hey, I've done it once."

    12. JRJoe Rogan1:04:28

        Mm-hmm.

    13. SSSteve Strope1:04:29

        And going, "Hey, my proposal is I'm going to build this car, and I'm going to take it on the Power Tour that you're sponsoring." So basically, they sponsored me with some parts, and they ran the artwork of my car, and I built it in my shared p- tandem parking garage, underground parking garage at my apartment on Whitsett Avenue, which is where Whitsett crosses into, crashes into Ventura Boulevard, built it there.

    14. JRJoe Rogan1:04:54

        So you built it in a, in a garage-

    15. SSSteve Strope1:04:55

        Parking garage. A lot of it.

    16. JRJoe Rogan1:04:56

        ... you shared with other people?

    17. SSSteve Strope1:04:57

        Mm-hmm.

    18. JRJoe Rogan1:04:58

        Wow.

    19. SSSteve Strope1:04:58

        Yeah, I, I would go to the junkyard, get the parts, like, example...

    20. JRJoe Rogan1:05:01

        How big? This is a two-car garage?

    21. SSSteve Strope1:05:03

        No, it's an underground parking garage.

    22. JRJoe Rogan1:05:05

        Like, how many people are parked in that garage?

    23. SSSteve Strope1:05:07

        Well, it's tandem. One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 20-

    24. JRJoe Rogan1:05:11

        And you have just one spot?

    25. SSSteve Strope1:05:12

        Yeah.

    26. JRJoe Rogan1:05:13

        And in that one spot, you're building a car.

    27. SSSteve Strope1:05:15

        P- pretty much.

    28. JRJoe Rogan1:05:16

        And so there's a car right next to you-

    29. SSSteve Strope1:05:17

        Mm-hmm.

    30. JRJoe Rogan1:05:17

        ... while you're building this car?

Episode duration: 2:30:02