Joe Rogan Experience #2048 - Reggie Watts

1. 0:00 – 15:00

   (drum roll) Joe Rogan podcast,…

   1. RWReggie Watts0:00

      (drum roll) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out.

   2. NANarrator0:04

      The Joe Rogan Experience.

   3. Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night. All day. (rock music) I'll take that.

   4. JRJoe Rogan0:13

      Yeah?

   5. NANarrator0:14

      Yeah.

   6. JRJoe Rogan0:14

      I only drink a half of one though. You drink the whole one?

   7. RWReggie Watts0:16

      I drink the whole one, but I'm gonna try a half this time, just to see.

   8. JRJoe Rogan0:20

      No.

   9. RWReggie Watts0:20

      'Cause, you know, it's weird, man. I have friends that are like, they will not... They're just like... I don't know what it is. Like, they, they, well, they can't take it 'cause... Well, some people do get nauseous on it, but I haven't, I've never, ever had that experience. It's really weird, like, all throughout my life, like, I've taken all kinds of things that people are like, "Oh, I throw up," or like Robitussin or something, like, drinking a whole thing of Robitussin. I throw up and I'm like, "I don't know why but I just, I don't have that reaction." It's weird.

   10. JRJoe Rogan0:44

       Hmm.

   11. RWReggie Watts0:44

       So I feel either lucky or I'm dumb. I don't know.

   12. JRJoe Rogan0:46

       Do you ever get seasick?

   13. RWReggie Watts0:48

       No.

   14. JRJoe Rogan0:49

       Oh, okay.

   15. RWReggie Watts0:50

       Yeah.

   16. JRJoe Rogan0:50

       Do you throw up when you get sick? Do you ever throw up?

   17. RWReggie Watts0:53

       I try to avoid it at all times but I don't get sick that often.

   18. JRJoe Rogan0:56

       Hmm.

   19. RWReggie Watts0:56

       I get sick maybe once every four years or something.

   20. JRJoe Rogan0:58

       Do you ever drink too much and then you throw up? You just downed the whole thing, didn't you?

   21. RWReggie Watts1:03

       No, I did like-

   22. JRJoe Rogan1:04

       Three quarters?

   23. RWReggie Watts1:05

       No, I did ha-... Well-

   24. JRJoe Rogan1:06

       I don't know why this is two portions.

   25. RWReggie Watts1:09

       I, I, I-

   26. JRJoe Rogan1:10

       That's silly.

   27. RWReggie Watts1:11

       I-

   28. JRJoe Rogan1:11

       'Cause how do, you can't even see through the glass.

   29. RWReggie Watts1:12

       I know.

   30. JRJoe Rogan1:13

       Like, how do I know where the half is?
2. 15:00 – 30:00

   Yeah. …

   1. RWReggie Watts15:00

      D. Thompson. Um, if you don't know about him, you should check him out. He's a, he's an AI expert researcher. He's an explainer. He has a thing called The Memo that comes out, I think, like every two weeks, something like that. But it gives you this, uh, really holistic State of the Union of AI, and he's hyper-optimistic and calls it human evolution, which I believe in that as well. If it's used well, uh, you get rid of the emotional factor, and you just have something that's looking to solve problems.

   2. JRJoe Rogan15:29

      Yeah.

   3. RWReggie Watts15:29

      And you know, and so I think like it can at least give you five solutions that are not emotionally based that are just addressed, that are supposed to kind of maximize the, uh, positive probable outcome. And I think we may see a human AI, uh, synergistic gover- low, at least low-level government implemen- implementation. Probably some country that's like can do that and not feel like they're betting the farm on it.

   4. JRJoe Rogan15:56

      Yeah. And if they, if it goes well, then other people implement it.

   5. RWReggie Watts15:58

      Exactly.

   6. JRJoe Rogan15:59

      Yeah, I think so. We were, we were talking about a AI president.

   7. RWReggie Watts16:03

      Yeah. (laughs)

   8. JRJoe Rogan16:04

      And that you need a president that is immune to bias-

   9. RWReggie Watts16:07

      Yes.

   10. JRJoe Rogan16:07

       ... corruption, influence, and someone who just looks at things rationally and in an intelligent way that spans all the disciplines, right? Like, how could any president really be an expert in foreign policy, the environment-

   11. RWReggie Watts16:23

       Mm-hmm.

   12. JRJoe Rogan16:24

       ... economics, social justice-

   13. RWReggie Watts16:26

       Mm-hmm.

   14. JRJoe Rogan16:27

       ... uh, infrastructure, um, immigration.

   15. RWReggie Watts16:31

       Mm-hmm.

   16. JRJoe Rogan16:31

       Y- it's not possible.

   17. RWReggie Watts16:32

       Yeah.

   18. JRJoe Rogan16:32

       How could one person really know the correct solutions to all those issues? Even if you're briefed ... Look, I can't imagine. I, all I do is run a podcast and do comedy and occasionally g- commentate on fights.

   19. RWReggie Watts16:48

       Yeah.

   20. JRJoe Rogan16:48

       And all those three things take up so much of my fucking time.

   21. RWReggie Watts16:52

       Mm-hmm.

   22. JRJoe Rogan16:52

       My whole day today has been having conversations with people about replacement opponents because there's a UFC coming on in two weeks.

   23. RWReggie Watts17:00

       Oh, wow.

   24. JRJoe Rogan17:00

       So I've been having all these conversations with experts and people that I know and commentators of who can fit this f- spot and who, who's ready and who's in shape and who's turning the fight down and ... How could anybody? That's not, that's so minor. That's a, my, my, uh, my role is so small. Like, I have so little to do, and yet it's, it takes up so much of my time. How could anyone manage all those things? They can't.

   25. RWReggie Watts17:27

       But AI could.

   26. JRJoe Rogan17:28

       Yeah, totally.

   27. RWReggie Watts17:29

       And AI doesn't have a son that gets money from Burisma.

   28. JRJoe Rogan17:31

       (laughs)

   29. RWReggie Watts17:31

       I know, I know. It's like the thing about, that I know.

   30. JRJoe Rogan17:35

       (laughs)
3. 30:00 – 45:00

   (laughs) …

   1. RWReggie Watts30:00

      in co- in Cody, Wyoming, and I love guns." And, and I was like, and we have the most amazing conversation. It's great. Um, and we usually unify on science fiction. But-

   2. JRJoe Rogan30:10

      (laughs)

   3. RWReggie Watts30:10

      ... uh, but she's terrified or she said, you know, it's like, sorry Ki- Kirsten, but (laughs) but, but at one point she was like, "I'm a- apprehensive about going to California because what I see is like destruction-"

   4. JRJoe Rogan30:22

      Mm-hmm.

   5. RWReggie Watts30:22

      "... uh, you know, gangs and violence and all the stuff." And I'm like, "I don't know, man. I don't, I don't," I, and I know that it happens. I've had friends' cars broken into, you know, those types of things. But in general, like w-... I, I don't experience that. And then that also comes down to me just going, like, "Why don't you just, why don't you just come to LA and I'll show you?" No one ... Nowhere is gonna be perfect, wherever you're gonna live. There's gonna be some kind of a limitation. You're either like ... You're either not gonna have the, uh, the culture that you're looking for. You're not gonna have access to the foods that you want, but you're gonna get this, but you're gonna get this, but you might not get this. And I think, for me, it's like, ah, I wanna live in places but not have any fear based off of the projection from fear-based, uh-

   6. JRJoe Rogan31:05

      Mm-hmm.

   7. RWReggie Watts31:05

      ... projections. And so, I don't know.

   8. JRJoe Rogan31:07

      Right. But there's a-

   9. RWReggie Watts31:08

      A little bit of tension.

   10. JRJoe Rogan31:08

       ... reality of the elevation of violence in Los Angeles that's legitimate, and also the diminishing of police. The, the-

   11. RWReggie Watts31:16

       Oh, yeah.

   12. JRJoe Rogan31:17

       That's all real.

   13. RWReggie Watts31:18

       Yeah. It ... Yeah. It is, although I will say, uh, this is weird, but I will say that, um, there's a certain amount of that ... Ah. This is weird to say, but sometimes when things get hostile or s- let's say more chaotic, I, I kind of go, "Oh, here's an opportunity." I think it's an opportunity in the sense that, uh, it makes people reformat their association to things, like police. There's less ... There's more violence and, like, now we have less police. It's like, was the answer less police? It's like, I don't think the answer was less police. I think it was about better-trained police.

   14. JRJoe Rogan31:54

       Yes.

   15. RWReggie Watts31:55

       I think that's ... I think they, they went too far. And it's like-

   16. JRJoe Rogan31:58

       Right.

   17. RWReggie Watts31:58

       ... when you have these opportunities in life where you're like, this moment where people are like, "Maybe we should question the way we do things," but then the response is to overshoot and-

   18. JRJoe Rogan32:07

       Right.

   19. RWReggie Watts32:08

       ... overcompensate, and now you've got, like, this ... You know? So I don't know. I hope that-

   20. JRJoe Rogan32:11

       Well, it's also a problem that people have an opinion based on an ideology that they subscribe to.

   21. RWReggie Watts32:16

       Yes.

   22. JRJoe Rogan32:17

       And say if you have a leftist ideology and you subscribe to that, then you have some very speci- I, I'm p- I bet I know where you stand on climate change. I bet I know where you stand on many issues.

   23. RWReggie Watts32:29

       Yeah.

   24. JRJoe Rogan32:29

       And the, the problem with that is if your tribe all agrees to something, you signal to your tribe by also agreeing too, and it's much easier than having a real objective conversation about the realities of that thing and not being attached to these ideas, but just saying-

   25. RWReggie Watts32:45

       Yes.

   26. JRJoe Rogan32:45

       ... "Well, what are, what are the realities of these things?"

   27. RWReggie Watts32:47

       Yes. Yes. I always call it the, the 10% rule. Like, I may believe in something and, and think about it and go, "Yeah, that makes sense for me," but I always leave 10% margin of me being completely wrong-

   28. JRJoe Rogan33:00

       Mm.

   29. RWReggie Watts33:00

       ... or me misunderstanding the whole situation-

   30. JRJoe Rogan33:03

       Yeah.
4. 45:00 – 1:00:00

   Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. …

   1. JRJoe Rogan45:00

      the ridiculous text messages. We'll text message just the most horrific shit, the most ridiculous shit-

   2. RWReggie Watts45:05

      Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

   3. JRJoe Rogan45:06

      ... back and forth to each other, just so cutting to each other.

   4. RWReggie Watts45:09

      Totally.

   5. JRJoe Rogan45:09

      And just laughing.

   6. RWReggie Watts45:10

      Totally.

   7. JRJoe Rogan45:10

      Everyone's laughing, and it's fun.

   8. RWReggie Watts45:11

      I know.

   9. JRJoe Rogan45:12

      It's fun. You're sparring.

   10. RWReggie Watts45:13

       I know. You're sparring, and that's what the thing ... I mean, it's like, you know-

   11. JRJoe Rogan45:15

       And it's in love. It's fun.

   12. RWReggie Watts45:17

       Totally.

   13. JRJoe Rogan45:17

       Yeah. Like the reason why they can say those things to you is 'cause you know they love you and you love them.

   14. RWReggie Watts45:22

       100%.

   15. JRJoe Rogan45:22

       And it's fun, and it's funny.

   16. RWReggie Watts45:24

       And it's, it's funny, and it's the, it's the best. I mean, ah, I don't know. That, that's my thing. Also, uh, you know, I'm an artist, so for me, when I see art, it's like we're all intersected by art. Every- Art is the one, is a great unifier because it just goes straight to the, the initial core of what being a human being is about.

   17. JRJoe Rogan45:40

       Sure.

   18. RWReggie Watts45:40

       Which is a curious-

   19. JRJoe Rogan45:42

       Mm-hmm.

   20. RWReggie Watts45:42

       ... creative, problem-solving adventurer. Like that's generally what human beings are. They're like-

   21. JRJoe Rogan45:49

       Yes.

   22. RWReggie Watts45:49

       ... "What's over there? How does that work?"

   23. JRJoe Rogan45:52

       Yeah.

   24. RWReggie Watts45:52

       "Oh, I bet you I could make this. Hey, what are you working on? Can I help you?" Whatever. "Or can you help me?" Whatever. I think it's that. But then again when people are in survival mode, all the bad shit happens. And then you get people taking advantage of people in those bad situations.

   25. JRJoe Rogan46:04

       Yeah.

   26. RWReggie Watts46:05

       And then they're harnessing, they're extending their disappointment in, with life and themselves onto those people, and then they start motivating. And you're just, "Guys, guys, guys."

   27. JRJoe Rogan46:13

       Well, I think-

   28. RWReggie Watts46:13

       "Chill the fuck out."

   29. JRJoe Rogan46:14

       ... human beings have a certain amount of conflict and problem-solving that, that they have to address on a daily basis in order to be balanced.

   30. RWReggie Watts46:23

       Certainly.
5. 1:00:00 – 1:06:41

   Do they have the…

   1. RWReggie Watts1:00:00

      great way. Like, he's like the guy that you would wanna tell all your problems to, you know, (laughs) on the show. And he's a great actor, and he's always been really cool with me. But, um, he's done a lot of stuff, but this was the o- this is the one. Finally, this is a role that, like...

   2. JRJoe Rogan1:00:14

      Do they have the internet on the new Star Trek shows?

   3. RWReggie Watts1:00:17

      Uh, y- oh, is there, is there an internet? What do you mean?

   4. JRJoe Rogan1:00:19

      Yeah.

   5. RWReggie Watts1:00:20

      Do you mean-

   6. JRJoe Rogan1:00:20

      Do they have internet? Like, can they Google things?

   7. RWReggie Watts1:00:22

      I think they... Of course, they have the ship's computer, right? It's like artificial intelligence. I don't know. They never act- actually never hear about that. Well-

   8. JRJoe Rogan1:00:29

      Right.

   9. RWReggie Watts1:00:29

      ... maybe you do hear about that. But on this show, no, it's just like-

   10. JRJoe Rogan1:00:32

       (laughs)

   11. RWReggie Watts1:00:32

       ... you know-

   12. JRJoe Rogan1:00:33

       Can they send emails? (laughs)

   13. RWReggie Watts1:00:34

       I think it's so... I think it's all... No, 'cause they're just, like, communicating.

   14. JRJoe Rogan1:00:36

       Isn't it funny that they never even thought of a phone that would work from space? They used... They thought of it as a walkie-talkie. Kirk out. Remember that?

   15. RWReggie Watts1:00:42

       No, I know, like... (makes walkie-talkie sound) Yeah, that little... (laughs)

   16. JRJoe Rogan1:00:45

       Yeah, like, you had to talk, and then he had to wait for the other person to talk.

   17. RWReggie Watts1:00:47

       I know.

   18. JRJoe Rogan1:00:47

       Like a walkie-talkie.

   19. RWReggie Watts1:00:48

       It's like, "Hello? Over."

   20. JRJoe Rogan1:00:49

       "Over."

   21. RWReggie Watts1:00:49

       "Hello? Over." But I mean, it's like, what? And it came up in the '60s or whatever. But the new one, actually there's a joke about it because a guy from the future comes into them, and he's f- he's from the Federation, so he's got the thing that you just hit the badge.

   22. JRJoe Rogan1:01:02

       Mm-hmm.

   23. RWReggie Watts1:01:02

       And they're like, "We've analyzed it, and apparently it's a communicator." And then Anson's character (laughs) is just like, "Yeah, but flipping open the thing, that's, that's the funnest part." (laughs)

   24. JRJoe Rogan1:01:10

       (laughs)

   25. RWReggie Watts1:01:10

       "It's the best part."... (laughs) and I was like, "That's- that's true."

   26. JRJoe Rogan1:01:14

       Imagine talking on a walkie talkie to your friend when she's not on ketamine.

   27. RWReggie Watts1:01:17

       Oh, my God.

   28. JRJoe Rogan1:01:19

       With the ramblin'.

   29. RWReggie Watts1:01:20

       Oh, my God. Well, you'd have to-

   30. JRJoe Rogan1:01:22

       And over never comes.

Episode duration: 2:46:39