Joe Rogan Experience #2053 - Danny & Michael Philippou

1. 0:00 – 15:00

   (drum music) Joe Rogan podcast,…

   1. DPDanny Philippou0:00

      (drum music) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out.

   2. NANarrator0:04

      The Joe Rogan Experience. Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. (rock music) What's up?

   3. DPDanny Philippou0:13

      Hello, hello, hello.

   4. JRJoe Rogan0:14

      What's going on? Pleasure to meet you guys.

   5. DPDanny Philippou0:15

      Nice to meet you too. Oh my God, we're live.

   6. JRJoe Rogan0:17

      Int- ladies and gentlemen. Introduce yourselves to everybody.

   7. DPDanny Philippou0:19

      (clears throat) Uh, I'm Danny Philippou. That's my clone, Michael. Uh-

   8. JRJoe Rogan0:23

      You guys are not clones.

   9. DPDanny Philippou0:24

      Oh, well, no. Yeah, there's a big difference, isn't there? Is there? Danny acts like we look s- well, we're identical twins, mirror image twins. Uh- yeah. Michael's the dumb twin, the unreliable twin. Uh- Danny's the arrogant twin. I wouldn't say, uh- Uh, but ladies and gentlemen, we're here on the Joe Rogan Experience. I'm so, uh, like, yeah, like, uh- It's very surreal. (laughs) ... I'm fanboying, yeah.

   10. JRJoe Rogan0:43

       (laughs)

   11. DPDanny Philippou0:43

       We got Young Jamie over there. We might pull some things up and we're gonna talk about DMT and elk meat.

   12. JRJoe Rogan0:48

       (splurts water)

   13. DPDanny Philippou0:49

       (laughs)

   14. JRJoe Rogan0:50

       Did you guys prepare for this?

   15. DPDanny Philippou0:51

       No. (laughs)

   16. JRJoe Rogan0:53

       (laughs)

   17. DPDanny Philippou0:53

       Yeah, we were writing last night. Yeah, yeah, yeah. (laughs) I don't know, yeah. Michael was like, "We're gonna be at the Joe Rogan podcast." And all of your guests are really, um, smart. I feel like people would be dumb about listening to us.

   18. JRJoe Rogan1:02

       There's a lot of dumb ones too. Don't worry about it.

   19. DPDanny Philippou1:04

       Okay. (laughs)

   20. JRJoe Rogan1:05

       (laughs)

   21. DPDanny Philippou1:05

       That'll- that'll be the playlist we're in. We-

   22. JRJoe Rogan1:07

       So, h- how- tell me about you guys, the- the background. First of all, how did it come that you made that movie?

   23. DPDanny Philippou1:14

       Well, uh, we've always wanted to make films, uh, ever since we were, like, little kids.

   24. JRJoe Rogan1:17

       Is that your first, like, real film?

   25. DPDanny Philippou1:19

       Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was our first proper production, yeah. We have- we have-

   26. JRJoe Rogan1:20

       That fucking movie was awesome.

   27. DPDanny Philippou1:22

       Uh, it was so weird that you posted about it. How did you hear about it?

   28. JRJoe Rogan1:25

       I was just flipping through, uh, I think I was just flipping through, like, the current movies on Apple.

   29. DPDanny Philippou1:32

       Okay.

   30. JRJoe Rogan1:32

       On Apple TV.
2. 15:00 – 30:00

   Oh, really? …

   1. DPDanny Philippou15:00

      every, there's, like, five categories you have to do. I mean, it takes a few years. But I was driving on, like, I was production running for a TV show and I met a stunt guy, Judd Wild, and, um, we just, like, got along 'cause I was, like, I was interested in stunts. Like, our, we'd been doing stunts in, since we were little kids. And, um, I showed him some of our old videos, like, pre-YouTube, and then, uh, he's like, "Dude, you should get accredited." Uh, and then he helped me get my accreditation. I was, like, doing some editing for him, like, some stuff. And then for our videos, we would get him and we'd create, uh, like, we were introduced to the stunt world through Judd. And, like, we would work, we've worked with over 100 performers now and, like, special effects guys. And like, and we would create different, like, our videos on YouTube, we'd always go, like, with a new, uh, like, "Oh, how do we do, like, a sinking set where we can fire and the set's sinking and filling with water?" Or, "How do we do this, this rig, this stunt rig?" Um, and we'd, like, innovate and, like, create different things. So we're looking forward to doing a, an action movie 'cause we have a cool team. We're attached right now to the Street Fighter movie.

   2. JRJoe Rogan16:01

      Oh, really?

   3. DPDanny Philippou16:02

      Uh, yeah, for the Capcom video game. And we're gonna-

   4. JRJoe Rogan16:04

      Can I, hold on. Do you have video of you getting hit by a car?

   5. NANarrator16:06

      I think I do, yeah.

   6. JRJoe Rogan16:07

      Let me see this.

   7. DPDanny Philippou16:08

      It, wait, 'cause the thing at the-

   8. NANarrator16:09

      It's called ex-

   9. JRJoe Rogan16:09

      Here we go.

   10. DPDanny Philippou16:10

       No, no, no.

   11. NANarrator16:10

       Oh.

   12. DPDanny Philippou16:11

       This is a bad one. Wait.

   13. JRJoe Rogan16:12

       No, no, no. Let me see this one.

   14. NANarrator16:13

       No, this one's fine.

   15. DPDanny Philippou16:14

       I mean, let me see which one.

   16. NANarrator16:14

       You, you can tell me a better one after this, but this one's fine.

   17. DPDanny Philippou16:16

       Okay.

   18. JRJoe Rogan16:16

       Let's see this one.

   19. NANarrator16:17

       This is not him. The next one will be him.

   20. DPDanny Philippou16:20

       Yeah, so this is, uh, with a stunt performer seeing who could get hit faster. It's not faster. (instrumental music plays) (car crumpling) Oh, shit. (laughs) This whole window's fucking coming through.

   21. NANarrator16:32

       Oh, Jesus.

   22. DPDanny Philippou16:33

       Ugh.

   23. NANarrator16:33

       Yeah, we're done.

   24. JRJoe Rogan16:34

       Dude.

   25. DPDanny Philippou16:35

       (laughs) If, if you go to, uh, I might have sent you a link.

   26. JRJoe Rogan16:39

       What the fuck? (laughs) What the fuck? (laughs)

   27. DPDanny Philippou16:41

       That was at, no, but wait. If there's, uh- It's called Extreme Deaths? Can I send you a link?

   28. NANarrator16:45

       Extreme what?

   29. DPDanny Philippou16:46

       It's, uh, it's, I've got one that's unlisted. I can send you a link.

   30. NANarrator16:49

       Uh, if you have it on your phone, you can send it to me.
3. 30:00 – 45:00

   So when you're creating…

   1. DPDanny Philippou30:00

      of like how people... If you see someone drunk, like you're with a friend and they're drunk, like you find it funny, like someone's drunk and that, but if they're like, say their family's religious, I remember a friend's family who was very religious, they came and he was like drunk in his underwear vomiting and we thought it was funny. And then I looked over and his mom was crying because like she was like, you know, that's not her perception of it as well. It's like that's a, that's what it sounds like a devil and his son or something, like he was like so like fucked up. And it was, that, that was like sticking as well. It's like just different interpretations of what's going on, so the kids are having fun with it, but there's that kind of undertone of the reality of it is very different to the way that they're perceiving it.

   2. JRJoe Rogan30:35

      So when you're creating something like this, like when you're creating the script and the storyline...... do you guys disagree with direction? Is it, uh, how collaborative is it?

   3. DPDanny Philippou30:45

      Well, I can't ever write with Michael. We'll just butt heads too much and we'll start fighting. So, my, my co-writer Bill Hinzman, him and I will work on stuff together, and then when we've got a draft, we'll present it to Michael. Yeah. Then he just starts fucking tearing into it, saying it's boring and it's shit. I- i- if you, like, 'cause when you're like creating like the story and stuff, if there's no, like, set ending, I'll have ideas and Danny will as well, so it'll kinda be in two different directions. Like, it could get yanked in two different directions. But if Danny does, like, 'cause we write scripts separately, then there's like the outline. It's like, oh, okay, I know what you're going for and then add notes that way, as opposed to, like, trying to veer into a different thing.

   4. JRJoe Rogan31:20

      Mm-hmm.

   5. DPDanny Philippou31:20

      Yeah. Um- And then also, writing's so personal and you're exploring really personal themes, and Michael and I just don't get that deep and personal with each other. Even though we're brothers, we find that really awkward, where we just don't have that sort of relationship.

   6. JRJoe Rogan31:31

      Mm-hmm.

   7. DPDanny Philippou31:31

      We have more of a working relationship as opposed to- And we're just, well, it's like, it's our whole lives is filming and stuff, so there's, but there's, like we don't go, "Oh, let's go hang out at a," whatever, like, you know, it's... We're always traveling together and stuff, but we don't, "Oh, let's do this together." It's always film related or video related.

   8. JRJoe Rogan31:46

      And so are you, like, at the end of it, before you start filming, do you guys have to get approval on the final script? Is it like-

   9. DPDanny Philippou31:54

      Yeah, yeah.

   10. JRJoe Rogan31:55

       ... d- did they have to give you the green light? Like, how, what is the process between you come up with a concept, creating a script, them giving- Okay, we're back.

   11. DPDanny Philippou32:04

       So do we, like, continue the sentence-

   12. JRJoe Rogan32:06

       (clears throat)

   13. DPDanny Philippou32:06

       ... like it just happened or do we-

   14. JRJoe Rogan32:07

       No. Where were we? Do you remember where we were?

   15. DPDanny Philippou32:10

       We talked- I tracked something down for you. This is one of the drugs I took.

   16. JRJoe Rogan32:12

       What is it?

   17. DPDanny Philippou32:13

       Well, I can't-

   18. JRJoe Rogan32:15

       Okay.

   19. DPDanny Philippou32:15

       Can you pronounce that?

   20. JRJoe Rogan32:16

       Ah. No. (laughs)

   21. DPDanny Philippou32:20

       (laughs) (laughs)

   22. JRJoe Rogan32:23

       Yeah, this-

   23. NANarrator32:23

       Can you spell it? I'll try to look it up.

   24. JRJoe Rogan32:25

       Well, it says, "Phase one single randomized open label study to assess the pharmaceutical..." wow, I don't even know what this word is. "Pharmacokinetics safety and toler- and tolerability of ABP-787 deuterated..." Oh, boy.

   25. DPDanny Philippou32:46

       (laughs) This, uh-

   26. JRJoe Rogan32:46

       "... dextromethorphan hydrobromide quinide sulfate."

   27. DPDanny Philippou32:54

       Did you get that one, Jimmy?

   28. JRJoe Rogan32:55

       "And healthy volunteers."

   29. DPDanny Philippou32:57

       Well, this is what... So I- I thought I was never listening, but I was listening. I just didn't know what the fuck they were saying.

   30. JRJoe Rogan33:02

       Yeah.
4. 45:00 – 57:53

   So whe- …

   1. DPDanny Philippou45:02

   2. JRJoe Rogan45:02

      So whe-

   3. DPDanny Philippou45:03

      But it was-

   4. JRJoe Rogan45:03

      How long did it take? Was it a slow build? How long did it take before it hit, like, 90 million? Was it like ...

   5. DPDanny Philippou45:08

      I think, it's been in- It's been in cinemas for a while now. It, it still hasn't come- Y- it's still in cinemas right now.

   6. JRJoe Rogan45:12

      Really?

   7. DPDanny Philippou45:13

      Playing in some theaters, yeah. I think they, they ... I think every week, they, like, drop it by half, the amount of theaters that it plays in.

   8. JRJoe Rogan45:18

      Oh.

   9. DPDanny Philippou45:18

      Um, and, and the way they promoted it was, like ... And I think A24 does more, like ... Again, this whole world, like, making stuff where that's our, like, whole lives. But the stuff after, all this stuff, I have no idea what ... Like, this is such a new process for us, like marketing and release-

   10. JRJoe Rogan45:33

       Mm-hmm.

   11. DPDanny Philippou45:33

       ... and all that stuff. So, I, I think the way that they do it is- If you say bola, we got a publicist. Sorry, our publicist doesn't speak- (laughs) Oh, man. It was the first time we had, like, you know ... Like, our schedules now ... It's good that we have, like, uh, management now that like s- gives us a schedule 'cause we have no idea what's happening every second. But yeah, like, w- uh, in a publicist, you got a new thing. There's, like, a list of, like, 30 interviews that you're doing that day. And then, like, you just got to get some control. There was ... It was, it was a lot of word-of-mouth screenings. And- Yeah, they didn't do, like- Yeah. ... billboards and things like that. That wasn't the way that they promote. Yeah. They did, like, uh, showing the movie to people that they think would talk about it, and then, like, kinda spread that way, I guess. It was a word-of-mouth campaign. Yeah, word-of-mouth campaign. Yeah.

   12. JRJoe Rogan46:11

       So it just sort of slowly kept going?

   13. DPDanny Philippou46:14

       Yeah. 'Cause we've been promoting it since Sundance 'cause we got into Sundance, which we did that whole thing there. Then in February, we were in Berlin Film Festival. There's a bit more promo there. And then March, we're in South By Southwest here in Texas. And so, all those screenings just came word-of-mouth. And then they would just- Yeah. ... and then out to live

   14. NANarrator46:30

       We put up with it.

   15. DPDanny Philippou46:30

       And then, like, I guess it, it did really good in South America, uh, like Mexico, Peru, like, all those places. And they went hard on the marketing. There's a company called Diamond Films. They do i- They made, like, a giant hand, and they were parading it through the street. Yeah. (laughs) It was so fucking awesome. I mean, I was like, "Man, I wanna go over there." Like, "I wanna get a picture," like. They had, like, a whole, like ... A bus stop where it was, like, four bus stops with, like, hands in between them, like, all in the road for the film.

   16. JRJoe Rogan46:52

       Oh.

   17. DPDanny Philippou46:52

       Big walls of it. So cool, man. Yeah, Me- Very different to the- ... Mexico went hard. They went, yeah. Yeah, I was like, "Man, next time ..." 'Cause we're gonna do a sequel. Mexico, yeah.

   18. JRJoe Rogan46:59

       You're gonna do a sequel now?

   19. DPDanny Philippou47:00

       Yeah. I, I ... Even when you're writing something like that, you get so caught up in the world and with the characters, you can't help but start writing scenes for a sequel. And so, I had ideas for it, and I told A24, I said, "If it's successful up, I would be so down to do a sequel." So I just sort of planted the seed. In every Q&A that we did in these, like, word-of-mouth screenings, I was like, "You know, A24 should give us a ..." I was always just s- sort of hinting, saying that I would do it if they wanted to do it.

   20. JRJoe Rogan47:22

       That's a big thing now with horror movies, where they have all these spinoffs. Like, look at The Conjuring.

   21. DPDanny Philippou47:27

       Oh, it's-

   22. JRJoe Rogan47:27

       How many movies do they have off of that?

   23. DPDanny Philippou47:28

       Yeah, yeah. Crazy, there's a whole universe. It's a whole franchise.

   24. JRJoe Rogan47:30

       Yeah, there's a whole Conjuring universe.

   25. DPDanny Philippou47:32

       Yeah. Yeah. Uh, it does help solidify things in pop culture if you look at Friday the 13th, you know, with Jason or, or Freddy. If it was just one film- Yes, but there's a two ... It depends, like, if ... At what point does it become, like, a money grab, I guess, is, like, a thing where it's ...

   26. JRJoe Rogan47:46

       Well, when you don't wanna do it anymore.

   27. DPDanny Philippou47:48

       Yeah. Yeah.

   28. JRJoe Rogan47:48

       When you're just doing it for the money.

   29. DPDanny Philippou47:49

       Or a cool thing, I think, would be if people wanted to ...'cause they're talking about ... If, if you ... Like, imagine a movie where we get a cool, talented, like, director, like Africa, writer-director. And then they do, like, a version of that world, like, in a, in a, in-

   30. JRJoe Rogan48:03

       Mm, yeah.

Episode duration: 2:10:54