The Joe Rogan ExperienceJoe Rogan Experience #2061 - Whitney Cummings
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Cold plunge, pregnancy questions, and club “supplements” (smelling salts & kratom)
- JRJoe Rogan
(drum roll) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out.
- NANarrator
The Joe Rogan Experience.
- JRJoe Rogan
Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. (rock music)
- WCWhitney Cummings
Like, could that induce labor, getting in a cold plunge eight months pregnant?
- JRJoe Rogan
Ask Jamie, he would know.
- WCWhitney Cummings
Jamie, get on that. I'm sure there's a Reddit forum for that.
- JVJamie Vernon
Last time I tried.
- WCWhitney Cummings
(laughs) Last night with those smelling salts, people doing the smelling salts, I was like, "If I even inhale that, I feel like I'm gonna start crowning."
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. It's very funny how those smelling salts have made their way from the studio to now at this-
- WCWhitney Cummings
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
... at the club. Everybody's doing smelling salts. (laughs)
- WCWhitney Cummings
Between the kratom and the smelling salts, I'm like, I feel like-
- JRJoe Rogan
You gotta, you gotta keep the kratom away from Duncan.
- WCWhitney Cummings
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
That motherfucker drinks cases of that stuff.
- WCWhitney Cummings
He just downs them. (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
It's so crazy. We get there.
- WCWhitney Cummings
And is kratom naturally occurring? It's like a...
- JRJoe Rogan
It's a plant.
- WCWhitney Cummings
Plant? Okay.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. It's k- that stuff is, uh, the Live Free or whatever it's called.
- WCWhitney Cummings
Hmm.
- JRJoe Rogan
What are those things called, Jamie?
- WCWhitney Cummings
Hmm.
- JRJoe Rogan
What is it called? Live Free? Something like that.
- WCWhitney Cummings
That's the brand?
- JRJoe Rogan
I don't know.
- WCWhitney Cummings
Hmm.
- JRJoe Rogan
But they used to have them at, like, um, Sun Life, you know that place?
- WCWhitney Cummings
Organics?
- 1:41 – 5:09
What kratom feels like, weed-for-performance, and the drug culture of pool halls
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, it's kind of an opiate. It's ki- uh, I don't know. What exactly is kratom?
- WCWhitney Cummings
And it's legal?
- JRJoe Rogan
It kinda is an o-
- WCWhitney Cummings
It's legal?
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, it's legal. Totally legal.
- WCWhitney Cummings
Okay.
- JRJoe Rogan
I had a guy that was on my podcast once that, uh, used to be an opiate addict, and then he started taking kratom.
- WCWhitney Cummings
Mm-hmm.
- JRJoe Rogan
And, uh, he's- they were selling it as pills, and he said, "Well, if you take a small amount of it, it actually acts as, like, a stimulant. But if you take a larger amount of it, it's, it's a different effect."
- WCWhitney Cummings
Hmm.
- JRJoe Rogan
So I said, "How many do you take?" He says, "I take 10."
- WCWhitney Cummings
Oh.
- JRJoe Rogan
I go, "You take 10?"
- WCWhitney Cummings
Okay.
- JRJoe Rogan
He goes, "I take 10 before I work out." I'm like, "Okay, I'll try it." So I took 10, and I was high as fuck.
- WCWhitney Cummings
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
It's a weird high, because it's like I felt like, um... You know, I'm, I'm pretty aware of my body, so I'm like, my motor skills feel perfect.
- WCWhitney Cummings
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Like, I don't feel like anything's wrong. Like, I feel like I could go do stuff.
- WCWhitney Cummings
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Like, I'm not like, "Uh," like shit, like drunk or anything like that. I go, but I'm definitely affected.
- WCWhitney Cummings
Mm-hmm.
- JRJoe Rogan
So what is this? Like, would this affect judgment? Would this affect your reaction time? Like, sh- I shouldn't drive like this.
- WCWhitney Cummings
But pain tolerance down, that's probably good for working out.
- JRJoe Rogan
I guess. Is it, though? Like-
- WCWhitney Cummings
I did kinda use to like to smoke weed and work out.
- JRJoe Rogan
I like smoking weed and work out.
- WCWhitney Cummings
So I feel like I could do more.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. Well, smoking weed and working out makes me feel like I know what my muscles are doing.
- WCWhitney Cummings
Yeah, you like feel-
- 5:09 – 11:31
Crack vs fentanyl clip, sentencing disparities, and overdose realities
- WCWhitney Cummings
Have you seen this video where Boosie, the rapper is endorsing crack over fentanyl?
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- JVJamie Vernon
Yes.
- WCWhitney Cummings
(laughs) Have you seen... Dude, it's so-
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, it's a good point. Crackheads live-
- WCWhitney Cummings
He's like, "My crackhead friends I've known for 20 years." He's like, "They're around."
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- WCWhitney Cummings
"They can do anything."
- JVJamie Vernon
Oh.
- WCWhitney Cummings
"They have powers." And then-
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, you know, crack is just cocaine. It's just another way-
- WCWhitney Cummings
Oh, he just cooks.
- JRJoe Rogan
It's, yeah, it's freebasing cocaine, and the scary thing is, even though we know that, it's one of the most racist laws that's ever been enacted, where the difference between the, uh, the sentencing for someone who gets caught with crack versus someone who gets caught with an equivalent amount of cocaine, it's like a giant disparity.
- WCWhitney Cummings
Wow.
- JVJamie Vernon
Didn't Deion Sanders say this too?
- JRJoe Rogan
He's the most athletic person-
- JVJamie Vernon
Oh, shit.
- WCWhitney Cummings
Oh, I don't know who that is.
- JVJamie Vernon
Uh, just hold on one second.
- WCWhitney Cummings
That's, it's, uh, Boosie, B-O-O-S-I-E.
- JVJamie Vernon
I know who this is also.
- JRJoe Rogan
... you ever been on a field with?
- NANarrator
No, my cousin Junebug.... he was a crack head and a good, good dude though. But he was very athletic, 'cause he would steal stuff when I came home from college and could never catch him. Could never catch him. And he would sell it, and I would have to go get it back at the hood in the... from the, from the drug dealers. He was probably the most athletic, my cousin, Junebug. But next to that, I think it was Bo.
- WCWhitney Cummings
(laughs)
- JVJamie Vernon
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- WCWhitney Cummings
His cousin, Junebug. (laughs)
- JVJamie Vernon
Most athletic person ever. (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
Imagine there's some dude out there-
- WCWhitney Cummings
(laughs)
- 11:31 – 16:20
LA crime stories, “Chilean Mafia,” and fentanyl in the water affecting wildlife
- WCWhitney Cummings
I told you about what happened with, uh... I had a raccoon in my yard and I kept... (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs) You always gotta... You've got Guatemalans trying to sneak over the fence.
- WCWhitney Cummings
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
You got... (laughs)
- WCWhitney Cummings
This is what happens.
- JRJoe Rogan
You had... Didn't you have like the fucking people casing your house?
- WCWhitney Cummings
Oh.
- JRJoe Rogan
Those, the teams that were-
- WCWhitney Cummings
The Chilean Mafia.
- JRJoe Rogan
The Chilean Mafia, that's right.
- WCWhitney Cummings
So, the only people cleaning up homeless people now in LA are Sci- Scientology (laughs) and the Chilean Mafia.
- JRJoe Rogan
(coughs)
- WCWhitney Cummings
And the Chilean Mafia basically takes homeless people, gives them a BMX bike, gives them like a... and outfits them. And yeah, I sent you the video of them casing my house, 'cause they were robbing people in Brentwood and Santa Monica and-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- WCWhitney Cummings
... causing all kinds of shit. And-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, 'cause they're well-known. It's like a well-known organization.
- WCWhitney Cummings
Mm-hmm, nobody cares.
- JRJoe Rogan
Scientology takes them in?
- WCWhitney Cummings
I, that's what I'm hearing.
- JRJoe Rogan
... that's a smart move.
- WCWhitney Cummings
Super smart.
- JRJoe Rogan
That's like Wild, Wild Country. Remember-
- WCWhitney Cummings
Yup, yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
... Wild, Wild Country, they took in all the homeless people?
- WCWhitney Cummings
They took homeless people so that they could, uh, win the election. (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- WCWhitney Cummings
So they're smart as shit. (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
And then after they were done, they're like, "Yeah, we're done with you."
- WCWhitney Cummings
And they were putting the beavers in blenders, remember? And they were, like, putting beavers in blenders and-
- JRJoe Rogan
Beavers in blenders?
- 16:20 – 22:01
Why kids used to get hurt more: playground danger, adversity, boredom, and predator fears
- WCWhitney Cummings
That was it. But also, I'm fascinated 'cause, you know, I'm about to have a kid, and I, I wanna make sure he has a little adversity, you know. And, like, I was at... with a friend of mine at the new... The playgrounds now, they're, like, rubbery, and they're all made of plastic and shit. Like, when's the last time you saw a kid in a cast?
- JRJoe Rogan
That's true.
- WCWhitney Cummings
I don't-
- JRJoe Rogan
You see... I see them occasionally.
- WCWhitney Cummings
Ev- Every... 'Cause it's Texas, so kids do normal shit.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- WCWhitney Cummings
You know, but I remember we used to s- like, there used to be a cast with a metal bar-
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- WCWhitney Cummings
... when I was in school.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- WCWhitney Cummings
It was a metal bar. Remember kids would-
- JRJoe Rogan
They go to your hip.
- WCWhitney Cummings
The people who had one-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- WCWhitney Cummings
... it went all the way-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- WCWhitney Cummings
We spent the first 45 minutes of school signing casts. Like, everyone-
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs) That's true.
- WCWhitney Cummings
... was in a cast when we were kids.
- JRJoe Rogan
That's true.
- WCWhitney Cummings
You know what I mean? Remember the seesaws are gone.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- WCWhitney Cummings
Slides, slides used to be made of sheet metal.
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm-hmm.
- WCWhitney Cummings
They're, like, plastic. Do you remember there was, like, a chain, like, a pirate ship chain we would climb up?
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, yeah.
- WCWhitney Cummings
(laughs) We, we'd get tetanus getting pinched, like-
- JRJoe Rogan
Seesaws.
- WCWhitney Cummings
Dude, what was more dangerous than a seesaw?
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs) You fuck it up in the air and your fat friend jumps on the top of it, you go flying.
- 22:01 – 26:44
Witnessing violent car wrecks and how online algorithms normalize “carnage”
- JRJoe Rogan
I saw a hit and run last night. Did I tell you about this?
- WCWhitney Cummings
Yeah, last ni-
- JRJoe Rogan
At the club.
- WCWhitney Cummings
Yeah, yeah. You T-boned?
- JRJoe Rogan
(clears throat) The guy was running from the cops. Guy was, uh, high speed pursuit from the cops, two cars in front of us. So, uh-
- WCWhitney Cummings
I didn't realize you saw it in person. I thought you saw it on-
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, no, no, no.
- WCWhitney Cummings
... like, "Oh, holy shit."
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, no, no, no. I saw the whole thing. So I didn't know that he was running from the cops. I just see this car flying into the intersection and T-bone this other car. Just, he's trying to make it. He tries to hit the turn. Boom!
- WCWhitney Cummings
Oh.
- JRJoe Rogan
I mean, fast, and then opens the door and runs. So the dude who T-boned the guy jumps out of his car at a full sprint, full sprint across the street. And, uh, me and the guy w- I was with were like, "He's probably drunk." Like, he's probably realized he fucked up, and he's drunk, and he's trying to run away from the scene of the crime.
- WCWhitney Cummings
Oof.
- JRJoe Rogan
And then, uh, they tackle him. Some citizens got him. And so we hear, "They got him. We got him. We got him."
- WCWhitney Cummings
I wouldn't want Texas citizens getting me.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- WCWhitney Cummings
They're more armed than most police officers here, dude. (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, not only that, it's the lake, so everybody's running around out there.
- WCWhitney Cummings
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
It's like it's fit 'cause it's right over by, uh-
- WCWhitney Cummings
Oh, yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
... Lady Bird Lake. So this guy apparently was in a high speed chase from the police and just slammed right into a car. I mean, easily could have been us. It was two cars in front of us.
- WCWhitney Cummings
That's fucking wild.
- JRJoe Rogan
But it was boom! Like, to wa- I don't think I've ever seen in person someone hit a guy with a car that hard, like up close.
- WCWhitney Cummings
And it went into the passenger side?
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, just smooshed the side of this car. J- this car went flying. The one car, it goes flying up in the air, and the other car goes flying to the side, and then boom, the car falls down. The moment it falls down, that dude opens the door. (laughs)
- WCWhitney Cummings
(laughs) He's out. He was out.
- JRJoe Rogan
And starts, starts running.
- WCWhitney Cummings
He's ... (laughs) he's ... that's it. (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
And he was dressed like he just got done playing golf. It was so weird to see. He's, like wearing, like, a golf shirt.
- WCWhitney Cummings
I love that his first instinct was, "I'm just fucking running."
- 26:44 – 35:36
Disney “hidden” imagery, South Park’s ‘Panderverse,’ and Twitter as a behavioral drug
- WCWhitney Cummings
And so yeah, so Tripoli sends me all this stuff, but yeah, the D- I mean, the Disney castles being made of dicks, it is, it is a compelling case, but I think it was probably more that they didn't pay their animators, and the animators were like, "Fuck you guys, we're just gonna make the," you know?
- JRJoe Rogan
I'm not totally aware of that one. I think-
- WCWhitney Cummings
Oh.
- JRJoe Rogan
I don't remember it. Let's-
- WCWhitney Cummings
Oh.
- JRJoe Rogan
Pull that one up.
- WCWhitney Cummings
Disney castles made of dicks, let's go. I'm about to get-
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, there's a lot of wild stuff from the old Disney stuff.
- WCWhitney Cummings
Oh.
- JRJoe Rogan
You go back in the old, old Disney-
- WCWhitney Cummings
Oh, yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
And you're like, "You guys should probably bury this."
- WCWhitney Cummings
Brutal. (laughs) Brutal. I know, you might-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- WCWhitney Cummings
You might want to take the obviously Jewish person's nose down a little bit in this one.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, like there was one where, uh, there was a, a J- it was like a big bad wolf one, and it used to be a Jewish person, and then they switched it to a wolf later.
- WCWhitney Cummings
Mm-hmm.
- JRJoe Rogan
Like, what?
- WCWhitney Cummings
Yeah, and it's like cheap. It like, won't pay the price-
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- WCWhitney Cummings
... for the baguette for the Little Red Riding Hood. You're like, "What?"
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh.
- WCWhitney Cummings
Yeah, but like, there's, there's the, I think it's the Little Mermaid, the spears looking like dicks. The, I think they probably just didn't pay their animators, and the animators were like, "All right, we're just gonna make everything look like a dick." But then-
- JRJoe Rogan
Some people do see dicks in everything, though.
- WCWhitney Cummings
There's that. (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
That's a-
- WCWhitney Cummings
It's kind of a Rorschach test.
- JRJoe Rogan
That's a thing.
- WCWhitney Cummings
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. (laughs)
- 35:36 – 42:14
Collective trauma (Challenger), thrill-seeking billionaires, and war anxiety/draft fears
- WCWhitney Cummings
But I was thinking of, like, what are the other, like, collective visual, like, traumas we've had that we've seen? And I was... I'm a little... I kinda miss this a little bit, but I remember hearing about it 'cause I had an older brother. Remember the Challenger explosion?
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, yeah.
- WCWhitney Cummings
It makes me... I've been trying to write a joke about it, that they rolled in TVs into classrooms to watch this-
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm-hmm.
- WCWhitney Cummings
... t-... with the teacher. Remember there was, like, a teacher on it?
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm-hmm. Yeah.
- WCWhitney Cummings
And they showed it, and everybody just watched this teacher explode in the sky.
- JRJoe Rogan
I remember not knowing exactly what was going on at first. Going, "What's g-... What's happening?" Like, "Why is there, like, so many different..." Like, there was, like, one going this way and one going that way, and then they started talking about, "Oh, no."
- WCWhitney Cummings
Uh-oh.
- JRJoe Rogan
"Oh, no." And then you realize, like, "Oh, shit, did that thing blow up?" 'Cause d- do you remember watching it at first? Like, it didn't... I didn't know exactly what was happening.
- WCWhitney Cummings
I watched it recently and kind of was like, "Oh, I remember watching it, like, on the news when I was really young and not understanding what was going on."
- JRJoe Rogan
Can you pull up the Challenger explosion? By the way, that all coulda, apparently coulda been mitigated. People knew that there was problems with the O-rings and-
- WCWhitney Cummings
Really?
- JRJoe Rogan
Y- you gotta think how many fucking people are involved in those things and how bad the government is at-... almost everything.
- WCWhitney Cummings
Yep.
- NANarrator
... was that the young student-
- JRJoe Rogan
Almost everything.
- WCWhitney Cummings
But they- they looked for the teacher.
- NANarrator
It was a double shot.
- WCWhitney Cummings
It was, like, this whole thing.
- NANarrator
Yeah. ... freezing cold Florida to the cheers of the young students-
- JRJoe Rogan
Look at this.
- WCWhitney Cummings
Okay.
- NANarrator
... of the first ever US Space Program.
- WCWhitney Cummings
Oh, people gathered in theaters.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- NANarrator
Moments later, full throttle and point of highest stress. A massive explosion.
- WCWhitney Cummings
Ugh.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh.
- NANarrator
The cheering stops. The horror sinks in.
- 42:14 – 46:45
Pregnancy health paranoia: microplastics, phthalates, talc/asbestos, and medical distrust
- WCWhitney Cummings
I feel like there's a ... Yeah, I would say I feel like there's, like, a backlash happening, you know. I feel like it's interesting, like being pregnant, you really ... I've started getting, like, obsessed with, you know, everything you put in your body.
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm-hmm.
- WCWhitney Cummings
You know? And just the idea of just drinking water is like a full-time job. I'm like, "Where am I getting my water?"
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- WCWhitney Cummings
I got it 'cause it's either my choices are fluoride ...
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- WCWhitney Cummings
... or microplastics.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- WCWhitney Cummings
And I'm not, I'm not having a baby with a small taint, I'm telling you that right now. (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs) Yeah, do you have to ... Did you ever check yourself for phthalates while you were ...
- WCWhitney Cummings
Shit.
- JRJoe Rogan
No?
- WCWhitney Cummings
No.
- JRJoe Rogan
Ah, well, it's too late.
- WCWhitney Cummings
Where do I do that? I did the tally age test, the biological age.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs) That's different.
- WCWhitney Cummings
Oh.
- JRJoe Rogan
Pht- phthalates are microplas- It's, like, chemicals that leach out of plastics.
- WCWhitney Cummings
I mean, I've for sure got them.
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, everybody has them.
- WCWhitney Cummings
There's no way I don't, yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
There was a study that they did recently that was like, what is it? What was the number, like 90 something percent of people had phthalates in their body?... something nuts.
- WCWhitney Cummings
Also, there's this, um, this guy, I don't wanna, uh, plagiarize his work, Kashif Khan, he wrote that DNA Way book about how their micro, uh, the forever chemicals in women's yoga pants.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, right. Yeah.
- WCWhitney Cummings
In the crotch, it's in AstroTurf, it's-
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, how about fucking baby powder?
- WCWhitney Cummings
Dude, d-... We used to put it in our underwear before basketball games.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- WCWhitney Cummings
50... There's been 50,000 lawsuits.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- 46:45 – 51:45
Bill Gates, ‘Apeel’ coatings, and the reality of forests/wildfires (including homeless campfires)
- WCWhitney Cummings
I think that... I mean, at least the people that I know are very, uh, suspicious of stuff like that, but I... The thing that really freaks me out is even natural remedies are starting to be bought up by these corporations. So, you know Bragg's Apple Cider Vinegar?
- JRJoe Rogan
Uh-huh.
- WCWhitney Cummings
Bill Gates bought it.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, God.
- WCWhitney Cummings
Bill Gates now owns one of the few natural (laughs) he- healthy tonics we had, and he's putting the apples in it with the-
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, the Apeel?
- WCWhitney Cummings
The Apeel, the creepy ass-
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, what is that? That's like a coating that they spray on the outside of vegetables.
- WCWhitney Cummings
It's like some shmegma to keep the apples, uh, preserved longer.
- JRJoe Rogan
Is it just apples?
- WCWhitney Cummings
Is he just-
- JRJoe Rogan
I thought it was like avocados, ap-
- WCWhitney Cummings
... so obsessed that he didn't invent Apple computers that he's just, like, has to-
- JRJoe Rogan
... that just poisoning everything, apples?
- WCWhitney Cummings
No, he just has to. But yeah, it's, like, to... For Costco apples to stay fresher longer.
- JRJoe Rogan
But what is in it?
- WCWhitney Cummings
I would love to know.
- JRJoe Rogan
Ugh.
- WCWhitney Cummings
I would love to know.
- JRJoe Rogan
These motherfuckers, they can... They get stuff out there before anybody's aware that these things are a problem.
- WCWhitney Cummings
Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.
- JRJoe Rogan
And then, like, years later, you're like, "What's in it?"
- WCWhitney Cummings
Mm-hmm. Talc, uh, asbestos.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- WCWhitney Cummings
And then you don't find out till later.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- WCWhitney Cummings
So it's like talking about this and just being, like, not being suspicious about, like, should apples last for four weeks?
- JRJoe Rogan
I feel like Bill needs a hug. Like, why are you working so hard?
- WCWhitney Cummings
Did you see the video of him against trees?
- JRJoe Rogan
What?
- 51:45 – 57:29
Homelessness, theft laws, ‘RoboCop LA,’ and protecting joke ideas (plus writing tools)
- WCWhitney Cummings
Yeah. And just a testament to how, like, one sick bill will put you out. Like, what... And people can't afford housing.
- JRJoe Rogan
There's that.
- WCWhitney Cummings
Right.
- JRJoe Rogan
But it's mostly mental illness and drug addiction.
- WCWhitney Cummings
Hmm.
- JRJoe Rogan
It's mostly that. There's, there's people that are down on their luck, but those people usually find a way back.
- WCWhitney Cummings
Mm-hmm.
- JRJoe Rogan
It's mental illness for the most part, and drug addiction. And, you know, and also the community that comes from a bunch of people that are also just as fucked up as you.
- WCWhitney Cummings
Hmm.
- JRJoe Rogan
People like to be a... If you're a fucking mess-
- WCWhitney Cummings
Mm-hmm.
- JRJoe Rogan
... you like to be around other messes. You don't wanna be a mess-
- WCWhitney Cummings
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
... and be around Jocko. He's over there-
- WCWhitney Cummings
No.
- JRJoe Rogan
... getting up at 4:30 in the morning and working out.
- WCWhitney Cummings
No.
- JRJoe Rogan
And, like, you, you want to be a mess around other non-ambitious people that are just laying around. And that's their community.
- WCWhitney Cummings
It's pretty wild. In California, you can be homeless. I mean, the homeless people in California, they're not trying... They're, they've got ring lights, they've got cell phones.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- WCWhitney Cummings
They're-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- WCWhitney Cummings
... they're getting their morning sunlight.
- JRJoe Rogan
It's not that cold out.
- WCWhitney Cummings
They're-
- JRJoe Rogan
It's not that big a deal.
- WCWhitney Cummings
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
They could get a 24-hour gym membership.
- WCWhitney Cummings
They're in shape, too. I had, I had my... (laughs) Dude, they look great.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs) It's that gym membership.
- 57:29 – 1:08:42
Inside the Comedy Mothership: riff nights, green-room culture, and why it feels “historic”
- JRJoe Rogan
Did you do Bottom of the Barrel Tuesday night?
- WCWhitney Cummings
I, dude, I had the best time.
- JRJoe Rogan
It's fun, right?
- WCWhitney Cummings
I had never done it before, and it was like... I kinda feel like you'll have a better metaphor for this, but it's almost like, you know, doing Fatman is like, you know, doing your cardio. Writing jokes is like, you know, you're, you know, lifting, and then Bottom of the Barrel is like stretching or something. Like, it should, should be a part-
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm-hmm.
- WCWhitney Cummings
... of what you do as a comic.
- JRJoe Rogan
It's good to just be on a tightrope, you know?
- WCWhitney Cummings
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
And not having any idea where you're going with things, and then totally going the wrong way and trying to bail yourself out, and...
- WCWhitney Cummings
I got, like, three things out of it.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- WCWhitney Cummings
You're just, like, jumping off a cliff and flying-
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm-hmm.
- WCWhitney Cummings
... and sort of... 'Cause I think that I get a little bit, after I have a special come out, I start going, "Okay, my next special's gonna be about this." And then I kind of, like, have tunnel vision about what-
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm-hmm.
- WCWhitney Cummings
... the theme is gonna be.
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- WCWhitney Cummings
And someone just... Hamas Christmas was literally one of them.
- JRJoe Rogan
Hmm.
- WCWhitney Cummings
It was like, to just riff on that. Like, I never would've thought to write about that, 'cause I'm like, "Oh, too touchy, too this."
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- WCWhitney Cummings
It makes you braver, and, um, and it was like a muscle I hadn't flexed in a really long time.
- JRJoe Rogan
It's also a unique situation because the audience knows that you're doing it, and you are clearly reaching in... You're not preparing at all. You're reaching into this thing, you're pulling out this piece of paper-
- WCWhitney Cummings
Mm-hmm.
- JRJoe Rogan
... and there's this moment where you might have something on that.
- WCWhitney Cummings
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
You know? Like, "Oh."
- WCWhitney Cummings
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
You know?
- WCWhitney Cummings
Yeah.
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