Joe Rogan Experience #2063 - The Rock

1. 0:00 – 15:00

   (drumbeats) Joe Rogan podcast,…

   1. JRJoe Rogan0:00

      (drumbeats) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out.

   2. NANarrator0:04

      The Joe Rogan Experience.

   3. Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night. All day. (rock music) And we're up.

   4. JRJoe Rogan0:13

      What's happening?

   5. DJDwayne “The Rock” Johnson0:14

      I'm in.

   6. JRJoe Rogan0:15

      How fun was that?

   7. DJDwayne “The Rock” Johnson0:16

      Aw, that was a blast.

   8. JRJoe Rogan0:17

      We had a good day.

   9. DJDwayne “The Rock” Johnson0:18

      Dude, that was three hours.

   10. JRJoe Rogan0:19

       Yeah. We got, uh, Shane Gillis, Brian Simpson, Ehsan Ahmad, Tony Hinchcliffe, Duncan Trussell, you and me. We had a fucking banging workout. Then we did the sauna, we did the cold plunge, we did the whole experience.

   11. DJDwayne “The Rock” Johnson0:34

       We did the sauna again.

   12. JRJoe Rogan0:35

       Yeah. (laughs)

   13. DJDwayne “The Rock” Johnson0:36

       (laughs)

   14. JRJoe Rogan0:36

       Cold plunge again, I did it twice.

   15. DJDwayne “The Rock” Johnson0:37

       Cold plunge, man.

   16. JRJoe Rogan0:38

       Yeah.

   17. DJDwayne “The Rock” Johnson0:39

       That was great. And I love what you're doing down here, by the way, with the boys.

   18. JRJoe Rogan0:42

       Yeah.

   19. DJDwayne “The Rock” Johnson0:42

       Getting them down here, giving them this opportunity to get after it, not only in their craft, but also getting in shape.

   20. JRJoe Rogan0:49

       Yeah. There's-

   21. DJDwayne “The Rock” Johnson0:50

       Those guys are really getting in shape.

   22. JRJoe Rogan0:51

       ... two dudes with diabetes today. (laughs)

   23. DJDwayne “The Rock” Johnson0:54

       (laughs)

   24. JRJoe Rogan0:55

       Like, they just don't work out, you know? But we're doing it now. This is the third week.

   25. DJDwayne “The Rock” Johnson0:59

       Yeah.

   26. JRJoe Rogan1:00

       And we've been talking about it forever, but when Shane moved to town, he's like, "Dude, I gotta get in shape. I gotta, I gotta do something." I go, "Listen. Let's start on Monday, nice and light." And so we started nice and light. Today was a har- pretty hard day for them.

   27. DJDwayne “The Rock” Johnson1:13

       Yeah.

   28. JRJoe Rogan1:13

       But generally, it's pretty easy. I just have them do push-ups, body weight squats, and a series of very light kettlebell routines. Just simple stuff.

   29. DJDwayne “The Rock” Johnson1:23

       Right. Just get them used to it.

   30. JRJoe Rogan1:24

       Yeah.
2. 15:00 – 30:00

   Hmm. …

   1. DJDwayne “The Rock” Johnson15:00

      "Not that. Not that."

   2. JRJoe Rogan15:01

      Hmm.

   3. DJDwayne “The Rock” Johnson15:01

      'Cause it's easy just to say, "Yeah, I'll do it. Oh, this thing is for 10 minutes, Joe. Can you d- yeah, okay, I'll do it."

   4. JRJoe Rogan15:06

      Right.

   5. DJDwayne “The Rock” Johnson15:06

      And before you know it, all that shit-

   6. JRJoe Rogan15:08

      It's an hour.

   7. DJDwayne “The Rock” Johnson15:08

      It's an hour.

   8. JRJoe Rogan15:08

      Yeah.

   9. DJDwayne “The Rock” Johnson15:08

      And then it's two hours-

   10. JRJoe Rogan15:09

       Yeah.

   11. DJDwayne “The Rock” Johnson15:09

       ... and all that. So, I really try to make sure that I'm looking at the schedule and try to be smart about the moves these days. And, I also learned, man, there's just power in saying no.

   12. JRJoe Rogan15:19

       Yeah.

   13. DJDwayne “The Rock” Johnson15:20

       No, I'm not gonna do it.

   14. JRJoe Rogan15:20

       Y- you gotta have you time.

   15. DJDwayne “The Rock” Johnson15:22

       Yes.

   16. JRJoe Rogan15:23

       You time's important. Like, you can't... Uh, one of the things I always tell everybody, discipline's really important, but also enthusiasm is really important. Like in the-

   17. DJDwayne “The Rock” Johnson15:30

       That's right.

   18. JRJoe Rogan15:31

       I tell these guys with comedy-

   19. DJDwayne “The Rock” Johnson15:32

       Yeah.

   20. JRJoe Rogan15:32

       ... if you feel burnt out, take some days off.

   21. DJDwayne “The Rock” Johnson15:34

       Yes.

   22. JRJoe Rogan15:34

       There's no harm in that. Like, you want enthusiasm. There's just, like, something about being enthusiastic with comedy. And I think with a lot of things. Like, you wanna have that... You don't want it to be a drudgery.

   23. DJDwayne “The Rock” Johnson15:45

       That's right.

   24. JRJoe Rogan15:46

       Yeah.

   25. DJDwayne “The Rock” Johnson15:46

       Yeah. You don't want it to be a, a colonoscopy when you go in there. (laughs)

   26. JRJoe Rogan15:49

       Yeah, you wanna have a good time.

   27. DJDwayne “The Rock” Johnson15:51

       Yeah.

   28. JRJoe Rogan15:51

       And you wanna appreciate it. And sometimes when you, you overdo things, you just don't feel that enthusiastic about 'em. So, you gotta balance it out. But again, it's an education. So, you gotta do it the wrong way, and then you go, "Okay, what did I fuck up?"

   29. DJDwayne “The Rock” Johnson16:02

       And learn from it.

   30. JRJoe Rogan16:03

       Yeah.
3. 30:00 – 45:00

   Yeah. …

   1. JRJoe Rogan30:00

      ruined, my life is ruined, because then you can't think, you can't do things, you don't know what the fuck you're doing in life, you're ... It's like literally everything is your- the quality of your ability to think.

   2. DJDwayne “The Rock” Johnson30:11

      Yeah.

   3. JRJoe Rogan30:11

      And I knew that I was putting that in jeopardy. So-

   4. DJDwayne “The Rock” Johnson30:14

      Yeah.

   5. JRJoe Rogan30:14

      ... then I went all in in comedy. But I realized from martial arts that if I go all in on something, I could be successful at it.

   6. DJDwayne “The Rock” Johnson30:20

      That's right. Like, that's the anchor-

   7. JRJoe Rogan30:22

      Yeah, that's it.

   8. DJDwayne “The Rock” Johnson30:23

      ... that you learn.

   9. JRJoe Rogan30:24

      Yeah.

   10. DJDwayne “The Rock” Johnson30:24

       I thought that was cool, man, when I read that, yeah.

   11. JRJoe Rogan30:27

       There's things in life-

   12. DJDwayne “The Rock” Johnson30:27

       Yeah.

   13. JRJoe Rogan30:27

       ... that you c- man, I think every kid should do something difficult, whether it's playing chess, or whether it's soccer, or whether it's wrestling, something that really fucking tests you, 'cause you learn that you can, you can get better at stuff, and you learn that you can overcome all those feelings of weakness that are inside of you.

   14. DJDwayne “The Rock” Johnson30:45

       Oh, yeah. A- and, and it, and it's a ... it acts as a, like a forcing mechanism for discipline-

   15. JRJoe Rogan30:50

       Yeah.

   16. DJDwayne “The Rock” Johnson30:50

       ... and to work through that shit. And also, I feel like it's ... Like, with you and martial arts and then transitioning over to comedy, I feel like it also ... it ... for me, it, it forces also our kids to find their thing. And even as you get a little older, you know, in your, your teens and in your early 20s, 'cause I ... fuck, dude, in my early 20s, I was still trying to figure out who I was and what I was gonna be, and even into my 30s. But I feel like the ...... a- as you're searching for that thing, it's like with me and football, like, I thought football was my ticket. That was the thing that's gonna allow me to ... I'm gonna buy my parents their first house.

   17. JRJoe Rogan31:27

       Right.

   18. DJDwayne “The Rock” Johnson31:28

       I'm gonna ... Because I didn't live in a house until I was 27. I was WWE champion (laughs) was the first fucking house I lived in.

   19. JRJoe Rogan31:32

       (laughs) That's amazing.

   20. DJDwayne “The Rock” Johnson31:33

       It was amazing. So, I thought football was the ticket, and then I realized down the road, like, "Hmm, I- I- th- I- I have to finish this chapter in my life because I don't have that skill set to go on."

   21. JRJoe Rogan31:45

       Mm-hmm.

   22. DJDwayne “The Rock” Johnson31:45

       I could continue to push it and push it and push it, but no. But it ... Like I was saying, it forces kids too, as well, and older kids as you get into adulthood, to find your thing.

   23. JRJoe Rogan31:54

       Mm-hmm.

   24. DJDwayne “The Rock” Johnson31:55

       Right? 'Cause a lot of times, we're in the thing, we think it's the thing-

   25. JRJoe Rogan31:58

       Yeah.

   26. DJDwayne “The Rock” Johnson31:58

       ... and it's gonna be our ticket out, but it's not.

   27. JRJoe Rogan32:01

       And if you can find one thing, you can find many things.

   28. DJDwayne “The Rock” Johnson32:04

       Yeah. Right.

   29. JRJoe Rogan32:05

       That's ... It's like the Miyamoto Musashi quote, "Once you know the way broadly, you can see it in all things."

   30. DJDwayne “The Rock” Johnson32:10

       Mm-hmm.
4. 45:00 – 1:00:00

   Mm-hmm. …

   1. DJDwayne “The Rock” Johnson45:00

      were texting about last week, is, is how can you tell the difference between the bullshit noise and the toxicity that's always out there, compared to, "Oh, that's an opinion that is worthy of my attention-"

   2. JRJoe Rogan45:13

      Mm-hmm.

   3. DJDwayne “The Rock” Johnson45:13

      "... that I just wanted to look at and, and look at this for a second."

   4. JRJoe Rogan45:15

      Yeah.

   5. DJDwayne “The Rock” Johnson45:15

      Like, how do you differentiate the two?

   6. JRJoe Rogan45:18

      It's difficult, right? You gotta-

   7. DJDwayne “The Rock” Johnson45:19

      Right.

   8. JRJoe Rogan45:19

      ... try to be objective, and you j- you gotta try to be unemotional when you read something that someone's writing. Like, say if someone, someone's... Like Palestine and Israel is a great example.

   9. DJDwayne “The Rock” Johnson45:29

      Yeah.

   10. JRJoe Rogan45:30

       Because it's... The tension is so heightened.

   11. DJDwayne “The Rock” Johnson45:33

       Oh.

   12. JRJoe Rogan45:33

       And anything you say on one side or the other, people will attack you on.

   13. DJDwayne “The Rock” Johnson45:37

       Sure.

   14. JRJoe Rogan45:38

       And so th- this is one that's a... If you have an opinion, a political opinion, a, a, a, a cultural opinion about the conflict, and you post it, boy, you are opening yourself up to a world of people agreeing and disagreeing and chaos and fighting.

   15. DJDwayne “The Rock” Johnson45:53

       Mm-hmm.

   16. JRJoe Rogan45:54

       And some of those people are gonna have points that make sense. Like, say, if you are 100% pro-Palestine, and you read something about Hamas, and you read something, and you go, "Wow, that's fucking terrible." You know, you have to be willing to say, "Oh, there's both things."

   17. DJDwayne “The Rock” Johnson46:10

       Yes.

   18. JRJoe Rogan46:10

       There's the, you know, the, the, the fact that they live in what's essentially an open-air prison is fucking terrible. Also, w- the people that are ruling them are terrorists. That's terrible too. Like, you can't ignore any asp... This is a complicated thing. What... Some of the Israeli soldiers have done some evil things to Pales- There's videos of them shooting people. Also, what Hamas did is fucking insanely evil. Like, what, what has to be done to fix that? I do not know.

   19. DJDwayne “The Rock” Johnson46:42

       Yeah.

   20. JRJoe Rogan46:42

       But to pretend it's binary and to pretend it's one side good, one side bad-

   21. DJDwayne “The Rock” Johnson46:46

       That's right.

   22. JRJoe Rogan46:47

       ... that seems insane.

   23. DJDwayne “The Rock” Johnson46:48

       It, it's, it's all bad.

   24. JRJoe Rogan46:49

       It's all bad.

   25. DJDwayne “The Rock” Johnson46:50

       It's all fucking heartbreaking.

   26. JRJoe Rogan46:52

       Yeah.

   27. DJDwayne “The Rock” Johnson46:53

       It's all devastating. And you're right. There's a- and, well, what I've learned, I feel like we've all learned, or trying to learn at least, is, because it is so complicated.

   28. JRJoe Rogan47:01

       Mm-hmm.

   29. DJDwayne “The Rock” Johnson47:01

       And that is a part of the world, and historically, thousands of years, that I find complicated and I, I try my best to understand. I also try to go at it with an open mind, because it is all fucking crazy.

   30. JRJoe Rogan47:14

       It's crazy.
5. 1:00:00 – 1:07:57

   Oh, yeah. …

   1. JRJoe Rogan1:00:00

      soft-ass lives.

   2. DJDwayne “The Rock” Johnson1:00:02

      Oh, yeah.

   3. JRJoe Rogan1:00:02

      And they don't encounter real hardship. They, they encounter like, kind of like minor league hardship that they have blown up to be the end of the world.

   4. DJDwayne “The Rock” Johnson1:00:12

      It's not the hardcore shit that really shapes you, yes, that a lot of people need.

   5. JRJoe Rogan1:00:16

      Yeah.

   6. DJDwayne “The Rock” Johnson1:00:17

      Yeah. I agree. Yeah.

   7. JRJoe Rogan1:00:18

      It's just a ... We're going through a very strange adolescence as a species, and we're going through this like teenage process of like fucking up and figuring out who you are with nuclear weapons.

   8. DJDwayne “The Rock” Johnson1:00:33

      Mm-hmm.

   9. JRJoe Rogan1:00:34

      And like, if you looked at the actual civilization on Earth itself, the human civilization, it's going through this chaotic period of trying to grow and get better while also engaging in ridiculous conflict, and it's all happening in the blink of an eye. It's happening so rapidly. Things have changed so quickly from the time you and I were kids. I mean, when you and I were kids, it was Russia.

   10. DJDwayne “The Rock” Johnson1:01:01

       Oh, completely. Yes.

   11. JRJoe Rogan1:01:01

       Everybody was worried about going to war with Russia.

   12. DJDwayne “The Rock” Johnson1:01:03

       Right.

   13. JRJoe Rogan1:01:03

       And then when the fall of the Soviet Union, there was just like, ah.

   14. DJDwayne “The Rock” Johnson1:01:06

       Yes.

   15. JRJoe Rogan1:01:07

       This calm that went through the whole country.

   16. DJDwayne “The Rock” Johnson1:01:09

       The breath, yes.

   17. JRJoe Rogan1:01:09

       And I thought we were done.

   18. DJDwayne “The Rock” Johnson1:01:10

       Yeah.

   19. JRJoe Rogan1:01:10

       I thought, "Oh, we're done with all this. This is great."

   20. DJDwayne “The Rock” Johnson1:01:13

       Yeah.

   21. JRJoe Rogan1:01:13

       "We figured this out."

   22. DJDwayne “The Rock” Johnson1:01:14

       Yeah.

   23. JRJoe Rogan1:01:14

       But no.

   24. DJDwayne “The Rock” Johnson1:01:16

       Well, that's why I wonder what ... Where, where are the call for leaders, you know what I mean?

   25. JRJoe Rogan1:01:21

       Yeah.

   26. DJDwayne “The Rock” Johnson1:01:21

       Like, who, where ... I mean, it's a big question, but-

   27. JRJoe Rogan1:01:24

       Well, nobody really wants to be president. It's fucking ... They crawl up your ass with a microscope.

   28. DJDwayne “The Rock” Johnson1:01:29

       Dude. (laughs)

   29. JRJoe Rogan1:01:29

       It's not fun. They've talked about you being president.

   30. DJDwayne “The Rock” Johnson1:01:32

       Dude, I know.

Episode duration: 2:53:09