Joe Rogan Experience #2066 - Ralph Barbosa

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Joe Rogan 0:11 Joe Rogan, how are you?

Ralph Barbosa 0:13 What's up, young gun? How are you?

Joe Rogan 0:14 What's up, man?

Ralph Barbosa 0:15 Ralph Barboza on the way up. What's happening? (laughs) Hey, it's good to be here.

Joe Rogan 0:19 (laughs) Good to have you, man. I hear good things about you. I was just talking to Brian Simpson about you today.

Ralph Barbosa 0:23 Oh, I'm a huge Brian Simpson fan.

Joe Rogan 0:25 I love that dude.

Ralph Barbosa 0:26 Yeah, he's cool.

Joe Rogan 0:26 We were working out today and he was just saying great things about you.

Ralph Barbosa 0:29 No offense to Brian Simpson, but he works out?

Joe Rogan 0:32 (laughs)

Ralph Barbosa 0:33 (laughs) I never, I never thought-

Joe Rogan 0:37 Oh, shit. (laughs)

Ralph Barbosa 0:37 ... I'd hear, like, that sentence.

Joe Rogan 0:39 He does now.

Ralph Barbosa 0:40 Aye, hell yeah.

Joe Rogan 0:41 He's, yeah, he's been working out with me for three weeks now. I got, like, a little comedy boot camp going on over here.

Ralph Barbosa 0:46 Yeah?

Joe Rogan 0:47 Yeah.

Ralph Barbosa 0:47 That's-

Joe Rogan 0:47 Yeah, Shane Gillis, Duncan Trussell, Hasan Ahmad, Brian Simpson, and me, we, uh, get together and put, get some workouts in.

Ralph Barbosa 0:55 All those guys are, uh, are living down here?

Joe Rogan 0:58 Yeah, they're all living down here.

Ralph Barbosa 0:59 That's dope, man.

Joe Rogan 1:00 Yeah, it's dope.

Ralph Barbosa 1:00 Austin's pretty dope.

Joe Rogan 1:01 Austin's dope right now.

Ralph Barbosa 1:02 Hell yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:03 It's, it's a great spot.

Ralph Barbosa 1:04 I, um, I popped in here yesterday to Austin and I didn't, I feel like I didn't used to be able to do this, but yeah, it was, it was dope, man. I got to go, like, do a spot at the creek and then I got to go to your spot and got to do the little boy.

Joe Rogan 1:18 Nice.

Ralph Barbosa 1:19 Yeah, it's been dope, man.

Joe Rogan 1:21 Yeah. It's fun. Austin's like, it's a new thing. It's like an exciting thing.

Ralph Barbosa 1:26 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:26 It's like-

Ralph Barbosa 1:26 You know, you know, it used to be like, before COVID, Austin was, as far as Texas goes, Austin was, like, the place to go if you were too scared to, like, go to New York or LA.

Joe Rogan 1:37 (laughs)

Ralph Barbosa 1:37 People were like, "Just go to Austin," you know. It stayed busy. But it was also, like, very woke. And so you, you had, you had to be like real careful. And now it's like, nah, it's just-

Joe Rogan 1:47 It's buck wild.

Ralph Barbosa 1:47 Yes.

Joe Rogan 1:47 It's buck wild. (laughs)

Ralph Barbosa 1:47 I like that, yeah, it's buck wild.

Joe Rogan 1:50 Yeah. Well, you know what it is? It's Kill Tony. Kill Tony's, because Kill Tony's here, that show, it sets the standard because it's all just about being funny. And people realize, like, this idea that you're supposed to have, like, some sort of fucking social message in your comedy.

Ralph Barbosa 2:09 Yeah. I also think-

Joe Rogan 2:10 All I gotta do is be funny.

Ralph Barbosa 2:10 ... it's just a lot of Cal- Californians and, and New Yorkers, uh, as well, 'cause like everybody started moving down here to, to be able to actually be on stage.

Joe Rogan 2:18 Yeah.

Ralph Barbosa 2:19 From New York or LA during COVID. And yeah, I feel like when they got here, they were like, "You know, be careful." But everybody from California and New York was just like, "No."

Joe Rogan 2:29 Well, it depends on where you're from, you know. I mean, there's, there's pockets of, uh, people that are like enchanted by the wokeness in all, all sections of the country, you know. It depends. Like if you're coming from The Comedy Store, it's just about being funny. But if you're coming from some of the other clubs in LA, maybe it's not. Like, you may, there, y- it's just, it's Hollywood, man. It's like movies and TV. They're all run by executives and you have to think like they think or you don't get hired.

Ralph Barbosa 2:56 Well, I think, uh, I think another reason that it got so buck wild though is because during COVID, if you were coming here, it's because you were already like, "Man, fuck the fucking-"

Joe Rogan 3:06 Yeah.

Ralph Barbosa 3:06 "... COVID rules." You know what I mean?

Joe Rogan 3:07 Right.

Ralph Barbosa 3:07 If you're really that safe person-

Joe Rogan 3:09 Right.

Ralph Barbosa 3:09 ... you're probably also that, like, woke comedian, so it, I feel like those people stayed back while everybody who was ready to get buck wild came down to buck wild town and got buck wild.

Joe Rogan 3:18 (laughs) I think you, I think you nailed it. Yeah.

Ralph Barbosa 3:20 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 3:21 I think you nailed it 'cause the people that came here were like, "Fuck this." Like, "Fuck telling me that I can't do standup. Fuck telling me I can't go to a restaurant."

Ralph Barbosa 3:28 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 3:28 Especially when you go on the road and you realize that if you just live in LA and you never leave LA, you think the world is LA. And then you go to Nashville and you go, "Oh, they haven't lost their mind." But-

Ralph Barbosa 3:38 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 3:38 ... they didn't lose their mind in Nashville. They were normal. Like, you go to Dallas, they didn't lose their mind in Dallas. People kind of got a little freaked out for COVID for a couple of weeks and everybody sort of just settled in.

Ralph Barbosa 3:50 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 3:50 California never settled in, man. It never settled in. It's still there. I've been seeing people with masks on this week.

Ralph Barbosa 3:58 I see that a lot too. I remember when like, um, when I came down to Austin a few times during COVID, to a lot of the comics from like LA, you were like, "Jesus Christ." Like, they were, they were like waiting on you to like rise with your club, dude.

Joe Rogan 4:13 (laughs)

Ralph Barbosa 4:13 I was like, "You guys are putting too much pressure on Joe Rogan, man."

Joe Rogan 4:15 That's a lot of pressure, bro.

Ralph Barbosa 4:16 'Cause, uh, I think, I think it, I think it's not all LA comics, but there were a few that maybe felt like the Austin comics weren't showing love to the LA comics. They were like, "Man, they put us last on the mics, they don't book us on the shows. LA comics gotta do our own thing." He's like, but they were like, "Just wait, man." I heard a couple guys say this, they were like, "Just wait, man. When Joe opens up his club, it's over. Like, we'll be back on top."

Joe Rogan 4:40 (laughs)

Ralph Barbosa 4:40 But I feel like you brought everybody together, man.

Joe Rogan 4:42 Yeah. It's about e- everybody should be together. This is a fun artist community and it should be fun for everybody. There's no us versus them. Shut up. We're all comics.

Ralph Barbosa 4:53 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 4:53 Stop with the silliness. The Austin comic, LA comic, New York comic.

Ralph Barbosa 4:56 It was only for, I think it was only for a little bit during COVID-

Joe Rogan 4:59 Yeah.

Ralph Barbosa 4:59 ... when everybody's just rushing in, you know.

Joe Rogan 5:00 Like, everybody was freaking out just about change in the world, you know. Like, there was a lot of weird shit going on in the world and everybody had a higher level of anxiety. And to take a chance when you're young and you're coming up and everybody tells you LA is where you have to be. Are you a 27, 28-year-old comic? Oh my god, you gotta get to LA. That's what I always heard. You gotta get to LA. You gotta get to LA.

Ralph Barbosa 5:21 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 5:22 It's not the case anymore. That's not real anymore. The thing that helps you more than anything is podcasts. That's the thing that helps you more than anything.

Ralph Barbosa 5:31 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 5:31 Number one. Social media, podcasts, you know. Those are, like look how big you got so quick from a couple clips.

Ralph Barbosa 5:40 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 5:40 Just a couple clips. Like, you know it as well as anybody.

Ralph Barbosa 5:43 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 5:43 If you've got good shit, now it gets out. Like, th- there is not a TV show in the world that would've done that for you.

Ralph Barbosa 5:50 Mm-mm.

Joe Rogan 5:50 You woulda had to be the star in the, like if you were living in the '90s, you'd have to be the star of some NBC sitcom to sell the kind of tickets you're selling right now just from clips online. It's beautiful. For, for comedians, it's the greatest thing that's ever happened.

Ralph Barbosa 6:07 I feel like it, it's...... letting people decide who gets to blow up. You know what I mean? Like, e- e- e- I feel... I don't know what it used to be like, 'cause I wasn't there. But I feel like it used to be, the industry kind of decides when you get your break or not. Like, do they put you on this show or that movie?

Joe Rogan 6:24 S- they sort of do, but standup was always at least partially been a meritocracy. You know, standup, the quality of your standup is the most important thing. When they're not, people are laughing. That's the most important. It's always been the most important thing. So, if someone is undeniable, they always come through.

Ralph Barbosa 6:43 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 6:43 There's... They always come through. But they also have to be a hard worker. You gotta actually put it... There's too many guys that are really good that just go to one club or they go... You know, they don't, they don't go on the road. There's too many guys that, like, they miss this window of opportunity where they could have been like real national headliners, and they just never developed a following out there in the world.

Ralph Barbosa 7:07 Oh, I, I, I-

Joe Rogan 7:07 They fucked up.

Ralph Barbosa 7:08 ... uh, 100%. I know, I know a handful of comics, like back home or in New York or LA who I feel like are some of the funniest people in the world-

Joe Rogan 7:17 Mm-hmm.

Ralph Barbosa 7:17 ... and don't have a lick of work ethic.

Joe Rogan 7:19 Yeah.

Ralph Barbosa 7:19 So, the world will never know.

Joe Rogan 7:21 Pfft. It's horrible. But, it's... Some of them, it's not the work ethic. Some of them get jobs, like in the business, like they're writers or, uh... Like Owen Smith, who is one of the top 20 standup comics alive. Owen Smith is a fucking killer. His shit is so tight, his c-... He's... It's... He's so smooth on stage. You look at him, you're like, "How is this guy not selling out arenas? How is this guy not selling out arenas?" It's 'cause Owen had... They're great jobs. He got a bunch of great jobs. Like he run, runs sitcoms and stuff, runs shows, he's a writer. But, goddamn, when you look at, like the quality of his standup, like, man, you should be everywhere. You should be everywhere.

Ralph Barbosa 8:02 I mean, to each their own. If he's happy, he's happy, right? I don't know.

Joe Rogan 8:05 Yeah. I think he... Uh, the, the writers' strike probably freaked him out. I think the writers' strike and the actors' strike freaked a lot of those guys out. They're like, "Oh, shit." Like, 'cause if they just pulled a plug for five, six months in some sort of contract negotiations... Like some of those executives were literally saying, "Wait these people out. When they start losing their homes, then they'll come back to me."

Ralph Barbosa 8:24 Yeah, I saw that. Yeah.

Joe Rogan 8:25 Bro.

Ralph Barbosa 8:25 That's some cutthroat shit.

Joe Rogan 8:27 That's wild. Imagine if you gotta go to work with those people after that.

Ralph Barbosa 8:31 I wouldn't-

Joe Rogan 8:31 Imagine, you know that's how they feel about you.

Ralph Barbosa 8:33 I couldn't do that. I couldn't... I, I mean-

Joe Rogan 8:35 No, I could not.

Ralph Barbosa 8:35 ... I already didn't go that route. And I don't know if I could ever go that route.

Joe Rogan 8:38 You could have gone that route in the '90s.

Ralph Barbosa 8:40 In the '90s?

Joe Rogan 8:41 It was the only option, man.

Ralph Barbosa 8:43 Oh.

Joe Rogan 8:43 In the '90s, it was... When I first came to Hollywood in '94, that was what everybody wanted. You wanted what Jerry Seinfeld had, you wanted what Roseanne had. It was Brett Butler who was, uh... What was that show called again?

Narrator 8:56 Grace Under Fire.

Joe Rogan 8:57 Grace Under Fire, that was a big show. Tim Allen. You wanted to be a comic that got a sitcom. That was the shit, dude.

Ralph Barbosa 9:03 Fuck yeah.

Joe Rogan 9:03 If you were a comic that got a sh- sitcom, now you got a house in Beverly Hills, you're fucking balling out of control, you're driving a Ferrari. Whoa, you made it. That's what everybody wanted. This was like the goal, right?

Ralph Barbosa 9:13 That's... Yeah.

Joe Rogan 9:14 And somewhere along the line, I think it was like the 2000s, reality shows came around.

Ralph Barbosa 9:22 Everybody wanted a reality show?

Joe Rogan 9:23 They're too ch-... They're so cheap to make.

Ralph Barbosa 9:25 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 9:25 They're so cheap to make. And you don't... I mean, you have like... You barely pay the people that are on them. Like all those Real Housewives and shit, they're not like making millions of dollars, I don't think.

Ralph Barbosa 9:36 Damn.

Joe Rogan 9:36 You think they are?

Ralph Barbosa 9:37 I don't know. I'd like-

Joe Rogan 9:38 How much money they making?

Ralph Barbosa 9:38 Now I'd like to know just so I can talk shit to them.

Joe Rogan 9:40 Maybe-

Narrator 9:40 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 9:40 This is... This is... You broke. I think like maybe the new ones do. Like, they get k-... Obviously, the Kardashians make a shitload of money, right?

Ralph Barbosa 9:46 Oh, yeah.

Joe Rogan 9:46 But I think they own their show.

Ralph Barbosa 9:48 But what about like-

Joe Rogan 9:49 The point is like, they're way easier to make than a sitcom.

Ralph Barbosa 9:53 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 9:53 Way ea-... Like, Fear Factor was w-... You know, it was complicated in the stunts and all the stuff they had to do, but you don't have to write a script and like... All that stuff, like, plays out on its own. It's like people competing. It plays out on... Uh, the d- the drama just happens, and you have good editing, good music, and all that shit. But a sitcom, man, to write a good one? Bro, that shit is brutal.

Ralph Barbosa 10:15 My... Yeah, props to writers, man.

Joe Rogan 10:17 Props to writers.

Ralph Barbosa 10:18 Props to writers. I, I don't know.

Joe Rogan 10:19 That is a hard gig, man.

Ralph Barbosa 10:20 TV in general just kind of scares me, acting, writing. I don't know. I don't-

Joe Rogan 10:23 You just, you're just so attached to, like, other people's opinions of you. (laughs) Like, you're constantly getting chosen for stuff.

Ralph Barbosa 10:34 Yeah. I feel like even, even though I've never done that, I do, I do get tired of like comments. Like, I know they say never read the comments, but I read them.

Joe Rogan 10:42 (laughs)

Ralph Barbosa 10:42 But it'll be like the, the... Like, I can take a joke, I can take getting roasted, especially if it's people who follow me.

Joe Rogan 10:48 Right.

Ralph Barbosa 10:48 It kind of feels like, "Oh, well, I mean, they follow. It's some sort of support." It feels like you're getting roasted by like your cousin, like-

Joe Rogan 10:53 Right.

Ralph Barbosa 10:53 ... "Hey, he's still on my team, fuck it." But the ones that like piss me off, like, I don't know why they shouldn't, but they just throw me over there, it's like I want to fucking hit this guy in the face.

Joe Rogan 11:02 (laughs)

Ralph Barbosa 11:02 It's like, if I just left... Like, let's say I did Miami last month, and then I... Or like two weeks ago, and then I post like a flyer for next show's month, like next month's shows. And people are like, "What the fuck? You avoiding Miami?" I'm like, "Hey, dumbass, I was just there like two weeks ago. Like, when did you start following me, asshole?" Like, "Stop making me look like I don't show your city love."

Joe Rogan 11:25 (laughs)

Ralph Barbosa 11:26 Like...

Joe Rogan 11:26 You can't pay attention to that. That's just someone who doesn't look at schedules.

Ralph Barbosa 11:29 I hate it.

Joe Rogan 11:30 Yeah, but that's like just-

Ralph Barbosa 11:31 I hate it.

Joe Rogan 11:31 He just... That's a crazy person. That's a lack of information.

Ralph Barbosa 11:34 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 11:34 Right.

Ralph Barbosa 11:34 But I don't know why, I just bu-... I stopped checking social media. I'll check it like once throughout the day. And if, if I happen to catch your message or your comment, I catch it. If not, fuck it, like tomorrow.

Joe Rogan 11:45 You know what it's like, man? It's like when you're out at like a, a party or a club or something like that, and, and someone yells across the room, "Yo, what's up, Ralph?"

Ralph Barbosa 11:56 Uh, yeah.

Joe Rogan 11:56 You know, and you go, "Hey, what's up, man?" He goes, "Dude, I'm a fan. What's up? How you doing?" Then he'll give you some love.

Ralph Barbosa 12:01 That-

Joe Rogan 12:01 But he's like checking you to see if you'll, like, react to him.

Ralph Barbosa 12:04 Bro, if somebody-

Joe Rogan 12:05 That's kind of like what they're doing in the comments.

Ralph Barbosa 12:07 Somebody, uh-

Joe Rogan 12:07 "What, you don't come to Miami?"

Ralph Barbosa 12:08 Man, they... Yeah. Somebody tried to do that-

Joe Rogan 12:10 They just want you to react.

Ralph Barbosa 12:11 ... in like... I think it was Denver. I was already pretty drunk, and I was tripping off mushrooms, man.

Joe Rogan 12:15 (laughs)

Ralph Barbosa 12:17 And I was, like-

Joe Rogan 12:17 Oh.

Ralph Barbosa 12:17 ... in a playful mood, I can't help it, and some guy stopped me while I was walking out of the club, and he was like, "Yo, Ralph?" And I don't know why my, my first reaction instantly was just to be like, "Yo, Rodrigo?" And I didn't know who he was or nothing, I was just like, "Uh? Like, we're guessing people's names now?"

Joe Rogan 12:36 (laughs)

Ralph Barbosa 12:37 And he just, like, he went blank face, he's like, "What?"

Joe Rogan 12:41 (laughs)

Ralph Barbosa 12:41 And I was like, "I'm fucking with you, man." I was like, "What's your name?" And he was like, like Eric or something, I was like, "Yo, Eric?"

Joe Rogan 12:47 (laughs)

Ralph Barbosa 12:47 And then I was like, "Nice to meet you, bro." And I was like, "My bad, man," I just walked off. And when we were outside, um, man, it was like snowy, icy, we're outside, and so that same... I'm pretty sure it was that same dude, he was like, "Hey, Ralph," he was like, "Man, you're pussy, bro." And I was like, I was like, "What's up?" Uh, I was like, "What's your deal, bro? What's going on?" I had a feeling, like, he was... 'cause he was still real smiley. I had a feeling he was just fucking with me or something. I was like, "What's up, man? What's your deal?" He's like, "What?" I was like, "What's up, bro? What's your deal?" He's like, "What's my deal?" And I felt so cool because I was smoking a cigarette.

Joe Rogan 13:19 (laughs)

Ralph Barbosa 13:20 I was like, "What you wanna do, bro?" And my friend Luis was really drawing. That dude just loves to fight. Luis was... Luis pointed at my buddy Vince, who's like the nerdiest guy in the world. He, he's a writer for that show This Fool. Super nerdy guy with glasses. He's like, "You see this guy, bro? He knows MMA." He doesn't, though.

Joe Rogan 13:36 (laughs) No.

Ralph Barbosa 13:37 I don't think Vince has ever been in a fight. And that dude was like, "Nah, I'm fucking with you, man. I'm sorry, bro. Let's fight." But-

Joe Rogan 13:43 (sighs)

Ralph Barbosa 13:43 I was just kind of waiting for him to come at me. I usually... If I get into a fight, I'm gonna get the first hit. I'm a small dude. I'm not gonna risk getting knocked out on the first punch. I'm not like a... If he hits me, then I'll hit him, like...

Joe Rogan 13:53 Mm-hmm.

Ralph Barbosa 13:54 If there's a fight that's gonna happen, I'm fucking swinging first. I'm gonna lose either way most likely, but I'ma at least start swinging first before you knock me out. But I wanted him to come to me because it was so snowy and icy. I was like, "If I start walking and I fucking slip..." I was like, "I need... I need... I want him to risk slipping first before I risk slipping."

Joe Rogan 14:11 Yeah, ice fighting is not smart.

Ralph Barbosa 14:13 Yes.

Joe Rogan 14:13 That's super slippery.

Ralph Barbosa 14:13 It was the day before the Netflix special came out, so I was like, "I'm not gonna have a video of me getting knocked out in the ice come out the day before the special."

Joe Rogan 14:20 Yeah, not good. You, you have to know jujitsu if you're gonna fight on the ice, 100%.

Ralph Barbosa 14:24 Yeah?

Joe Rogan 14:25 Yeah, yeah, yeah. If you're fighting someone on a slippery surface, all you have to do is grab them and you're both going to the ground.

Ralph Barbosa 14:31 All right. I'll keep that in mind.

Joe Rogan 14:33 Yeah. If you... But don't fight.

Ralph Barbosa 14:35 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 14:35 Don't fight, man. Don't fight on ice.

Ralph Barbosa 14:37 I feel like it's coming, like-

Joe Rogan 14:38 Don't fight with mice.

Ralph Barbosa 14:39 ... let me take off my jacket. I'm getting heated just talking about this.

Joe Rogan 14:41 Don't fight, Ralph. You're a wild young kid. Don't do it. You got a great career. Don't fight. Don't be fighting people. If you wanna fight, go to a gym. Learn how to fight.

Ralph Barbosa 14:49 I went to a boxing gym for a little bit, uh, earlier this year. I went for, like, two months.

Joe Rogan 14:54 That'd be good for you.

Ralph Barbosa 14:55 Yeah. I liked it. I wanna do something different, though.

Joe Rogan 14:58 Boxing is the... one of the very best things ever for, uh, relieving, like, uh, tension. Like, if you're fucking tense, just like you got too much going on in your world, man, you just put on some good tunes. I have a Wu-Tang playlist-

Ralph Barbosa 15:13 I bet.

Joe Rogan 15:13 ... that I play when I hit the bag.

Ralph Barbosa 15:15 I, I would, uh-

Joe Rogan 15:16 Oh.

Ralph Barbosa 15:16 I'd go, like, early, like, early in the morning for, like, private sessions.

Joe Rogan 15:20 Mm-hmm.

Ralph Barbosa 15:21 And, uh, that's when I would put on some Wu-Tang, some RZA.

Joe Rogan 15:23 Mm-hmm.

Ralph Barbosa 15:23 RZA specifically. He has that one song that, like, uh, You Can't Stop Me Now.

Joe Rogan 15:27 Yeah.

Ralph Barbosa 15:28 It's like a boxing classic.

Joe Rogan 15:29 R- RZA's got so many jams. But for me, number one is Protect Ya Neck. That has to be on every playlist. And, uh, that's like we... when we would drive... (laughs) we would drive to the arena shows and we'd... sometimes we'd get a police escort, and there's something wild about cop cars with flashing lights and you listening to Protect Ya Neck. (laughs)

Ralph Barbosa 15:53 Nice.

Joe Rogan 15:53 (laughs)

Ralph Barbosa 15:54 We, we've never had a... I've never had a police escort.

Joe Rogan 15:57 Gravel pit's another one.

Ralph Barbosa 15:57 But one time in a parking lot, I had a security guard escort.

Joe Rogan 16:00 Ah.

Ralph Barbosa 16:01 But they have, like, the yellow lights. Those aren't as threatening or as fun, the yellow lights.

Joe Rogan 16:05 No, that's not as fun. You need blue lights.

Ralph Barbosa 16:06 It was also like a, like a shopping center parking lot, so it wasn't...

Joe Rogan 16:11 (laughs)

Ralph Barbosa 16:11 It's not exactly an arena, but I don't know.

Joe Rogan 16:13 Dude, some of the best comedy clubs ever are in those little shopping center mall places.

Ralph Barbosa 16:17 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 16:17 Little fucking clubs that you would never imagine were great, you know?

Ralph Barbosa 16:23 Little Funny Bones?

Joe Rogan 16:24 Yeah, man. Shit, there's some... I've never been to that one that's at the Mall of America, but I heard that's dope too.

Ralph Barbosa 16:30 That was, like, the first club I got to do, like, when I started hitting the road. That was like... Or second club. I don't know. It was, like, November, like early November 2022.

Joe Rogan 16:40 Oh, are you from Dallas?

Ralph Barbosa 16:42 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 16:42 Are you from Dallas? So, like, Minnesota winter is a different thing, man.

Ralph Barbosa 16:46 Oh, I loved it, 'cause I love the cold.

Joe Rogan 16:48 That's crazy. Do you really?

Ralph Barbosa 16:48 And I'm tired of the heat. Yeah, I'm so sick of the heat.

Joe Rogan 16:50 Oh, no, that's funny, that's funny.

Ralph Barbosa 16:51 I had... I finally had a reason to wear a jacket, like...

Joe Rogan 16:54 See, I grew up in Boston.

Ralph Barbosa 16:56 Oh, so you're used to the cold.

Joe Rogan 16:57 It's cold as fuck in Boston. And I'm like, "Fuck the cold." (laughs)

Ralph Barbosa 17:01 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 17:02 "You can heat me up, that doesn't bother me at all." I know people die in the cold. People die in their car in the cold.

Ralph Barbosa 17:11 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 17:11 Yeah.

Ralph Barbosa 17:12 That's-

Joe Rogan 17:12 In the heat, all you have to do is get in the shade, get water, don't be stupid, be in reasonably good shape, and you can get away with it, if there's, like, woods and you have water. If it's the cold, you're fucked.

Ralph Barbosa 17:27 But I... But I love, I love it, man. I'm skinny, I, I just layer up, wear like two, three jackets, I'm chill.

Joe Rogan 17:31 Oh, that's great. As long as there's a place to get warm.

Ralph Barbosa 17:34 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 17:34 That's the thing. Like, you can't survive unless you can get warm. That's the difference. Like, everybody's very worried about global warming. Global cooling is what freaks me out. Ice ages freak me out.

Ralph Barbosa 17:45 Yo, when Texas froze a couple years ago-

Joe Rogan 17:48 Yeah.

Ralph Barbosa 17:48 I was, I was... Somebody... I think I was watching, like, a video on Instagram, somebody was just like, "If, uh, climate change, like, keeps getting worse, that will happen, but, like, for longer periods of time or for, like, colder temperatures." If that's true, then yeah, I'm pretty scared.

Joe Rogan 18:04 Bro, that's all guesswork.

Ralph Barbosa 18:06 Yeah?

Joe Rogan 18:06 Everyone's guessing. Yeah. There's, there's definitely an impact. It's undeniable that human beings have an impact. But the cl- here's the problem, the climate is never the same.... it's never steady forever. If you go back to, like, 1934 in, I think it was Wyoming, got to, like, 118 degrees.

Ralph Barbosa 18:29 Holy shit.

Joe Rogan 18:30 Yeah. Something crazy like that. And they were talk-... It was, that was... God, I don't remember where I saw this.

Ralph Barbosa 18:35 I guess that's why they call it-

Narrator 18:36 Like, kind of the last time you left-

Ralph Barbosa 18:37 ... climate change.

Narrator 18:37 ... it was because of the Dust Bowl.

Joe Rogan 18:38 The Dust Bowl.

Ralph Barbosa 18:40 What was that? I always hear about that.

Joe Rogan 18:42 Climate change.

Ralph Barbosa 18:43 The Dust Bowl.

Joe Rogan 18:45 I don't-

Narrator 18:45 It was bad for... Like, a lot of... I mean, this is not exactly what it was, but a lot of it was the bad farming and drought that caused a bunch of bad crops, so they all, and they all turned to, like, shit. They turned to dust.

Joe Rogan 18:54 Mm.

Narrator 18:55 And it created giant dust storms all over the, like, western part of the country.

Joe Rogan 18:58 And that heated things up?

Narrator 18:59 It led to a bunch of shit in the air that, like, caused problems with the storms and the sun, and it-

Joe Rogan 19:03 Wow.

Narrator 19:03 ... definitely did heat things up for us.

Ralph Barbosa 19:04 I bet they thought the world-

Joe Rogan 19:05 So, farming did that.

Ralph Barbosa 19:06 ... was ending right then and there.

Joe Rogan 19:07 That's wild. But anyway, the point is, if you go back in time, y- you know, when they do what's, they do these things called core samples. So, they take this giant slab of the Earth, you know, hundreds of feet down. And through that, you can... You know what era... They do carbon testing, and so they know, like, "This is from a thousand years ago. This is from 2,000 years ago." When they, when they do that, it's all over the place, man. When they have, they have these charts of the temperature of the Earth throughout history. Have you ever seen 'em?

Ralph Barbosa 19:37 Mm-mm.

Joe Rogan 19:38 They're, they go like this, all over the place. B- even before people. Like, it's always been wacky.

Ralph Barbosa 19:44 I'm learning a lot, man. Learning about Hollywood in the '90s and climate change.

Joe Rogan 19:48 Bro, I'm here to teach.

Ralph Barbosa 19:49 This is what-

Joe Rogan 19:50 That's what, that's what I'm... (laughs)

Ralph Barbosa 19:51 This is such a one-sided podcast, man. It's not even fair. Like...

Joe Rogan 19:54 No, it's not. Come on, man.

Ralph Barbosa 19:56 It's not, dude. I was thinking about that on the way over here.

Joe Rogan 19:58 It's a conversation, brother.

Ralph Barbosa 19:59 It is, but I... Like, do you realize how, how like... This is... Like, bro, it's not even fair, bro.

Joe Rogan 20:05 Why's that?

Ralph Barbosa 20:05 I have, I have everything to gain here. Like, like me, I'm 27, right?

Joe Rogan 20:11 Right.

Ralph Barbosa 20:12 And, you know, you're Joe Rogan. You got the experience. You got the podcast. You got all this knowledge in the world of comedy, business. If I just listen, I'm gonna learn some shit today.

Joe Rogan 20:21 (laughs)

Ralph Barbosa 20:22 But you, you gotta talk to like a 27-year-old. Like, what do you even talk about? Like, everything he's talked about-

Joe Rogan 20:27 Oh, come on, bro.

Ralph Barbosa 20:27 ... I'm learning. This is my first time-

Joe Rogan 20:29 Are you serious? 27? Come on, man.

Ralph Barbosa 20:30 Oh, yeah, true.

Joe Rogan 20:30 I love what you're doing right now. I really do. I love comics on the rise. It's exciting to me.

Ralph Barbosa 20:35 Oh, comedy's fun.

Joe Rogan 20:36 I love comedy. I love, uh, good comics, and I love when, when people get better at shit. And I love watching it. I really do. I love watching people crack.

Ralph Barbosa 20:46 Appreciate it.

Joe Rogan 20:46 It's fun. I love, like-

Ralph Barbosa 20:48 I'm definitely trying to get better.

Joe Rogan 20:49 You're, you're fucking great, man. You're funny as shit.

Ralph Barbosa 20:51 Oh, thank you, thank you.

Joe Rogan 20:51 You're cool, you're relaxed. You're, you're smooth on stage.

Ralph Barbosa 20:54 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 20:54 You got a lot going for you, man. And I love it. I love-

Ralph Barbosa 20:57 Some-

Joe Rogan 20:58 I love watching you.

Ralph Barbosa 20:58 ... times I won't be smooth on stage. Sometimes, I'll, sometimes I'll have a burst of energy, and I'll let it out-

Joe Rogan 21:02 (laughs)

Ralph Barbosa 21:02 ... and I'll have fun that way. And I could tell some of the audience is like, "Ah, this is fun," and some of them think I'm on drugs 'cause they've never seen that.

Joe Rogan 21:09 (laughs)

Ralph Barbosa 21:09 They're like, "He's coked out."

Joe Rogan 21:11 Ah!

Ralph Barbosa 21:11 I'm not a coke guy, though. I'm not. I want people to know that. If you ever see me on stage, and I'm not like super mellow, and I'm actually energetic, just know it's not drugs. Mushrooms, maybe. Not, not anything else, though.

Joe Rogan 21:22 Yeah. Y- I don't... I know a few guys who've done, like... The guys who had problems with coke, who did coke and then did, did stand-up, and they said it fucked their stand-up up.

Ralph Barbosa 21:31 Yeah, I bet. I- I- I, I'm so-... I'm sober on stage like 98% of the time.

Joe Rogan 21:36 Yeah, you're smoother that way.

Ralph Barbosa 21:38 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 21:38 I like a drink. I like a drink every now and again, a little puff and a drink, just to-

Ralph Barbosa 21:43 Sometimes you need that just to kind of lo-... Like-

Joe Rogan 21:45 Just to get in the fun mood.

Ralph Barbosa 21:47 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 21:47 Just, we're having fun, you know?

Ralph Barbosa 21:49 Yeah. For sure. Sometimes, you might be a little stressed, depending what's going on in your day or your week, and you need, like, a shot.

Joe Rogan 21:56 Yeah.

Ralph Barbosa 21:56 A couple hits to like-

Joe Rogan 21:58 Yeah.

Ralph Barbosa 21:58 ... take that off a little bit.

Joe Rogan 21:59 Just, just take that edge off and just say, "Come on, Ralph. Enjoy this shit. You're on a fun ride."

Ralph Barbosa 22:03 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 22:03 "Let's go." Yeah.

Ralph Barbosa 22:05 I j- I just, I try to chill sometimes, just because I know that if I do start drinking, I'm not gonna stop. Like, I'm down like a few beers in the night. I might, if I have two shows, I might drink a beer or two before the second show. I might drink another couple beers on the stage.

Joe Rogan 22:19 Mm-hmm.

Ralph Barbosa 22:20 But I'm also, like, when I'm on... Like the West Coast. From Texas to the West, my audiences are like 100% Mexican. Like, there's no type of mix. And if you drink in front of an all-Mexican crowd, they're just gonna keep like, "Chug, chug, chug."

Joe Rogan 22:33 (laughs)

Ralph Barbosa 22:33 Bro. And there's no satisfying them, like...

Joe Rogan 22:36 Ha!

Ralph Barbosa 22:37 They give you... Like, I learned my lesson. If you chug one, you'll have to chug another. If you chug the next one, you, like you'll be eight beers in-

Joe Rogan 22:42 You have more dudes.

Ralph Barbosa 22:42 ... wanting to throw up on stage, like-

Joe Rogan 22:44 More dudes are gonna bring you beers.

Ralph Barbosa 22:45 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 22:45 "Let me get in one too."

Ralph Barbosa 22:47 Yeah. So like-

Narrator 22:48 Yeah, yeah.

Ralph Barbosa 22:49 ... I won't drink on stage. If I do, I'll let them know, like, "I'm not fucking... You're not, you're not doing this to me."

Joe Rogan 22:55 Yeah. They could take you down a rabbit hole.

Ralph Barbosa 22:56 But after the show, if I already started drinking, after the show, I'll, I'll keep it going.

Joe Rogan 23:01 Mitzi's is a fun place to be. After the shows.

Ralph Barbosa 23:04 Where?

Joe Rogan 23:04 Mitzi's, the bar downstairs at the Mothership.

Ralph Barbosa 23:07 Oh, yeah.

Joe Rogan 23:07 Tonight.

Ralph Barbosa 23:07 I haven't tried-

Joe Rogan 23:08 Tonight, after the shows, we're going downstairs.

Ralph Barbosa 23:09 All right, all right.

Joe Rogan 23:10 We're going. It's great. Whole staff's partying, just hanging out.

Ralph Barbosa 23:13 Mitzi's.

Joe Rogan 23:13 Yeah.

Ralph Barbosa 23:13 Let's do it.

Joe Rogan 23:13 It's a great vibe. It's a, a real, uh, great sense of community and home, you know? The, it's, it's a real, like, home base, you know? And that-

Ralph Barbosa 23:24 You need home bases when you're on the road a lot, I feel.

Joe Rogan 23:26 You do. Yeah, I think you do too.

Ralph Barbosa 23:27 Keep you human.

Joe Rogan 23:28 That's what we used to have at the Store. It was a home base. All these guys that would tour on the weekends, we'd all meet each other at the bar, at, at the bar downstairs. It was a comedians only bar. And it was this beautiful bar, and the, the bar itself was Mitzi's. It was from her home. And th- they moved it. When she moved out of her home, they moved it, and they put it, uh, in this one... So, you knew. It was like, "You're holding on to Mitzi's bar. This is hers." You know?

Ralph Barbosa 23:53 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 23:53 "This is her bar." Like, you feel her bar. When you put your hand down when you have a drink, you set it down on Mitzi's bar. There was something about that, man. And then, we were... You know, Ron White's back there, and fucking Dave Chappelle's back there. Dave brings his own music sometimes. It's crazy. It's beautiful.

Ralph Barbosa 24:08 Oh, I fucking love that.

Joe Rogan 24:09 Beautiful. Just a hang, man.

Ralph Barbosa 24:11 Oh, yeah.

Joe Rogan 24:11 And so, that's what we do at the Mothership.

Ralph Barbosa 24:13 Dave has good music.

Joe Rogan 24:15 He's always got the best mu-... I got, I always have Shazam on point when Dave's here.

Ralph Barbosa 24:18 Yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 24:19 I have it set up so, uh, I tap the back of my phone three times.... and Shazam pops up.

Ralph Barbosa 24:25 And Shazam pops up?

Joe Rogan 24:25 Yeah.

Ralph Barbosa 24:25 I just have it on the little pull-down menu or whatever.

Joe Rogan 24:28 You can do it with that.

Ralph Barbosa 24:28 I don't know what you call it. I don't wanna show you my messages.

Joe Rogan 24:31 I got a new case. I got a new case. It's a little thick. I might have fucked up my tapping.

Ralph Barbosa 24:34 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 24:34 That was, like, the sweetest thing. I could tap three times, boom, boom, boom.

Ralph Barbosa 24:37 You're gonna have to work out your hands more.

Joe Rogan 24:38 Oh, there it goes. See? Shazam comes up.

Ralph Barbosa 24:40 Hell yeah.

Joe Rogan 24:41 Yeah, I gotta get better finger strength. Gotta get better...

Ralph Barbosa 24:44 You're tailored made, buddy.

Joe Rogan 24:45 Gotta work on my piano skills.

Ralph Barbosa 24:47 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 24:48 God, imagine piano players, man. That kind of dexterity in your fingers? That, uh, piano and guitar or a- anything you could do with your fingers like that, that's some wild dexterity that people have.

Ralph Barbosa 25:00 There's Instagram videos. I got a trick for that.

Joe Rogan 25:03 Yeah?

Ralph Barbosa 25:03 There's no need for dexterity these days.

Joe Rogan 25:05 Oh, yeah?

Ralph Barbosa 25:05 Well, I mean, if you're gonna play, like, a full-on song, then yeah, you need dexterity and actual piano lessons.

Joe Rogan 25:10 (laughs)

Ralph Barbosa 25:11 But if you're the type of guy like me who just every now and then comes across a piano and you want to impress people, who-

Joe Rogan 25:15 Right.

Ralph Barbosa 25:16 There's these Instagram (laughs) videos that have, like, four keys tops. And if you play, like, the keys the way they tell you, it's a simple little pattern, but it sounds like you're doing a bunch. It sounds-

Joe Rogan 25:28 Oh.

Ralph Barbosa 25:28 ... like you have dexterity.

Joe Rogan 25:29 Mm.

Ralph Barbosa 25:30 So it's cool. I just like to trick people. I have no real skills. I just... (clicks tongue)

Joe Rogan 25:33 Well, that's a skill. You just have a very small skill.

Ralph Barbosa 25:36 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 25:36 Like, you were playing pool earlier-

Ralph Barbosa 25:38 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 25:38 ... with Jake. You can make a ball, right?

Ralph Barbosa 25:41 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 25:41 You, that's a skill. You're just not a professional pool player.

Ralph Barbosa 25:45 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 25:45 That's the difference. Like, you have ace skill.

Ralph Barbosa 25:46 I know enough to get by.

Joe Rogan 25:47 Yeah, you have ace skill.

Ralph Barbosa 25:47 I'm like that... I'm like Leo on Catch Me If You Can.

Joe Rogan 25:50 (laughs)

Ralph Barbosa 25:51 Like, I'll get by, get some money, but there won't-

Joe Rogan 25:54 Yeah.

Ralph Barbosa 25:54 ... be a real career here.

Joe Rogan 25:55 Well, you know, that's one of the beautiful things about anything. Like, you learn, and then you realize how much more there is to learn.

Ralph Barbosa 26:02 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 26:02 Like, I remember when I first started doing standup, you know, all you're trying to do is just get a laugh, just all you're trying to do is, like, figure out how to not drown up there. And slowly but surely, try to find things that you think are funny, and that make, make you... But you, you're getting better, you know, over time, for sure. Everybody gets better. All of us get better.

Ralph Barbosa 26:22 For sure.

Joe Rogan 26:22 And there's something about that that's fucking cool. And it's k- it seems to never end, man.

Ralph Barbosa 26:27 That's what I love about standup. I've always loved to learn. Like, I love it. I'll, I'll, I've had various jobs just for the sake of learning that specific little trade. But standup was the first thing that I was like, "Man, this is never-ending."

Joe Rogan 26:41 Same here.

Ralph Barbosa 26:41 "Like, I'm never gonna finish learning. I'm never gonna finish getting-"

Joe Rogan 26:44 Yeah.

Ralph Barbosa 26:44 "... as good as I wanna get." So that's the one that I really stuck to.

Joe Rogan 26:48 Yeah, it's a beautiful thing too, because you get this amazing feedback from all these people and you make 'em feel better.

Ralph Barbosa 26:54 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 26:54 Like, when people leave a great show, they have this fucking smile on their face like, "Oh, shit, that was great. That was so fun."

Ralph Barbosa 27:01 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 27:01 "That was so fun." So it's like you-

Ralph Barbosa 27:03 Sometimes girls wanna have sex with you after.

Joe Rogan 27:04 That's crazy.

Ralph Barbosa 27:05 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 27:06 You're bringing joy.

Ralph Barbosa 27:07 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 27:07 You're just bringing joy to all these people. But you're getting better at it too. Dom Irrera said that to me once. And Dom, at the time, was in his 60s, and he's like, "Joe, I, I don't think I've ever been sharper." He goes like, "All these sets at the store?" He goes, "I f- I feel like standup is an amazing thing, 'cause you could just keep getting better at it."

Ralph Barbosa 27:24 I'm motivated to do more of it whether I kill or I bomb.

Joe Rogan 27:27 Yeah.

Ralph Barbosa 27:27 'Cause if I bomb, I'm like, "Bro, well, then I have to fix that."

Joe Rogan 27:30 Have you seen Ron White lately?

Ralph Barbosa 27:32 Mm-mm.

Joe Rogan 27:33 Ron White's sober now. He doesn't drink anymore.

Ralph Barbosa 27:35 Mm.

Joe Rogan 27:36 Better than ever.

Ralph Barbosa 27:37 Yeah?

Joe Rogan 27:37 Better than ever.

Ralph Barbosa 27:38 You see? That's why I wanna stay sober.

Joe Rogan 27:39 Murdering, murdering. I mean, murdering. Ron White's a, a fucking assassin.

Ralph Barbosa 27:45 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 27:45 And he's, like, never been sharper. New bits, always working on new shit, constantly rolling out new material, is going on tour again.

Ralph Barbosa 27:54 I-

Joe Rogan 27:54 He was gonna have a retirement party. I'm like, "Bitch, you ain't retiring." What the fuck?

Ralph Barbosa 27:57 I don't think you could retire with standup. I think all, I think... (sighs) I mean, what do I know, but...

Joe Rogan 28:02 He was saying that he was just gonna do the club... "I'll just do the Mothership." I'm like, "Yeah, for a while you're just gonna do the Mothership, but you gonna get that itch." (laughs)

Ralph Barbosa 28:10 I don't know. Yeah, I don't know what's, you know, what he's going through or anything, but I feel like this is the type of game where you, you could, you could s- try to retire, you could try to take breaks, but man, there's no finishing this.

Joe Rogan 28:21 It's too fun.

Ralph Barbosa 28:22 Yeah. There's just-

Joe Rogan 28:23 Too fun.

Ralph Barbosa 28:23 ... no way to finish.

Joe Rogan 28:24 And you're doing it with people that are like you.

Ralph Barbosa 28:27 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 28:27 Like, we're weirdos.

Ralph Barbosa 28:28 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 28:29 You know, we could find other comics to hang out with. They're the most forgiving, understanding, ridiculous people. Talk shit to each other all the time. Everyone's laughing. That green room at the Mothership, at any given night, it is just like a full-on show, and we're all howling at each other. You know, Hinchcliff's cracking on people. Shane Gillis is cracking on people. Ron White chimes in. Brian Simpson dumps on people. It's wild back there. We're having so much fun just all laughing at each other, just all falling down on the ground, slapping tables, just... (laughs)

Ralph Barbosa 29:03 Fucking dope, man.

Joe Rogan 29:04 It's, it's beautiful.

Ralph Barbosa 29:06 It's hard to, like, joke... Like, it's hard to go back from that.

Joe Rogan 29:10 Yeah.

Ralph Barbosa 29:11 Like, you, you, when you get used to talking shit with comics... My group of friends that I grew up with, we talked heavy amounts of shit to each other. Like, there was no, there was no line. And I feel like with comics you can do that too. You know, everybody's-

Joe Rogan 29:22 Yeah.

Ralph Barbosa 29:22 ... just shooting the shit. But it's tough sometimes, like, going home or, or trying to, like... Like, I, like, I've dated people where I meet their family or whatever and, you know, you start to get a little comfortable.

Joe Rogan 29:34 (laughs)

Ralph Barbosa 29:34 But you're, you're, you're, they're like... You forget that they have-

Joe Rogan 29:37 Yeah.

Ralph Barbosa 29:37 Their line is way fucking-

Joe Rogan 29:39 Way, way, way, way down the road.

Ralph Barbosa 29:42 Yeah. And I'm like, "Fuck." Like...

Joe Rogan 29:44 You passed their line a long...

Ralph Barbosa 29:45 I'll-

Joe Rogan 29:45 You passed their line in the third grade.

Ralph Barbosa 29:46 Yeah. I've said-

Joe Rogan 29:47 (laughs)

Ralph Barbosa 29:47 I've said some jokes in front of, like, the family of girls I've dated or something like that, where they're just like, "Holy shit, man."

Joe Rogan 29:54 Yeah.

Ralph Barbosa 29:54 And I'm like, "All right. My bad, my bad."

Joe Rogan 29:55 Yeah.

Ralph Barbosa 29:56 So it's tough to go back. But sometimes I kind of miss that too, to be around somebody who's, like, not a comic. Like, I don't know. My uncle has a, a body shop, and, uh, sometimes there's just random dudes that'll go hang out, dudes that are getting their cars painted there, dudes that... And sometimes I, like, miss those guys, 'cause I remember them-

Joe Rogan 30:17 Right.

Ralph Barbosa 30:17 ... just talking shit about, like, just random things.

Joe Rogan 30:20 Just regular dudes.

Ralph Barbosa 30:20 Yeah. Sometimes they're curious about things, and they don't have the knowledge of, like...... the celebrity world or, like-

Joe Rogan 30:25 Right.

Ralph Barbosa 30:26 ... the outside this or that. You know, they're just kind of shooting the shit.

Joe Rogan 30:28 Yeah.

Ralph Barbosa 30:28 Sometimes I do kind of miss those convos, but I don't know. I, I, I don't like them getting mad at jokes I say.

Joe Rogan 30:36 Butthurt, yeah.

Ralph Barbosa 30:36 Yeah, so like-

Joe Rogan 30:37 I know what you're saying. Yeah, I mean, I got a lot of friends that have regular jobs. One of my best friends used to work as a maintenance guy out of high school. I've known him since I was, like, 24, 23. We been friends forever.

Ralph Barbosa 30:51 Do you ever imagine, like-

Joe Rogan 30:52 Shout out to Tommy Junior.

Ralph Barbosa 30:54 Yo, what up, Tommy Junior?

Joe Rogan 30:55 (laughs)

Ralph Barbosa 30:55 Do you ever imagine, like, going back to something like that? Like-

Joe Rogan 31:02 To, like, regular life?

Ralph Barbosa 31:04 Yeah. Do you ever-

Joe Rogan 31:04 Yeah.

Ralph Barbosa 31:05 ... yeah?

Joe Rogan 31:05 Well, I think everybody that gets real famous, there's a certain amount of pressure that comes with that that's not comfortable for some people. You know, like, you think how it is, like, reading your comments? You imagine if I read my comments? (laughs)

Ralph Barbosa 31:18 (laughs) I was gonna ask you about that, too. Do you ever read them?

Joe Rogan 31:20 No.

Ralph Barbosa 31:21 No?

Joe Rogan 31:21 It's not... They're not good for you.

Ralph Barbosa 31:22 They're not?

Joe Rogan 31:23 No.

Ralph Barbosa 31:23 No.

Joe Rogan 31:23 I think the bad ones are not good for you, and the good ones aren't good for you, either.

Ralph Barbosa 31:27 No, they can't be. 'Cause you gotta stay-

Joe Rogan 31:29 Yeah.

Ralph Barbosa 31:29 ... you-

Joe Rogan 31:30 Yes.

Ralph Barbosa 31:30 ... no matter what.

Joe Rogan 31:31 And that's difficult. And s- a lot of guys lose their mind. And I've lost my mind a few times and got it back, but you, you could lose your mind. You could get-

Ralph Barbosa 31:39 Oh, for sure.

Joe Rogan 31:39 ... lost in, you know, other people's opinions of you, who are you really. You, you're not... You need, uh, uh, at least some amount of time in your day to self-reflect. Just self-reflect. You know if you half-ass something or if you did a good job. You know if you prepared for something the way you should've. You know, you know, you know if a show went well. You know if a show sucked, you know, you were off, you... Like, you didn't have an... Something.

Ralph Barbosa 32:09 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 32:09 Anything. Whatever it is. You know. And if you don't spend enough time thinking about that and working on those things, whether it's with your personal life or your standup or your hobbies or anything that you're doing, if you don't have at least some time where you're not thinking about other people's opinions but you're just looking at it yourself, then you got too much noise coming in, and too much noise, "Oh, well, fuck you. I didn't s- fuck you." And then you see people where their whole life is engaged in these meaningless disputes with people, meaningless.

Ralph Barbosa 32:39 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 32:40 Energy that you could spend on positive things, like friendships, like a hobby that you enjoy, like your loved ones, like positive things about life.

Ralph Barbosa 32:52 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 32:52 And I think, for some people, they get trapped in this world of other people's opinions, and they don't take enough time to look at themselves. Like, think about yourself. Think about you. Think about what you're doing.

Ralph Barbosa 33:02 I'm learning.

Joe Rogan 33:03 Yeah.

Ralph Barbosa 33:03 I'm learning that, at least for me, I don't know. I feel like standup is a lot like a fight or like racing a car. Like, everybody could have an opinion on, like, why you won it, why you lost it, the race-

Joe Rogan 33:14 Right.

Ralph Barbosa 33:14 ... or the... But nobody's really in the car with you. Nobody saw if you actually shifted wrong or correctly or-

Joe Rogan 33:19 Right.

Ralph Barbosa 33:19 ... or if it was because you ducked when you should've punched or something like-

Joe Rogan 33:23 Right.

Ralph Barbosa 33:23 Only you know.

Joe Rogan 33:24 Only you know.

Ralph Barbosa 33:25 Yeah. I'm learning that.

Joe Rogan 33:26 Yeah, but that's... I guess that's the case with everything. And there's nothing wrong with people expressing opinions, but I just don't think it's good for you to get engaged with them. I just don't think that's mentally healthy.

Ralph Barbosa 33:38 Oh, I've engaged.

Joe Rogan 33:39 I'm sure. (laughs)

Ralph Barbosa 33:41 I, I, I engaged for, like, a good two hours. But here's my... Here's where I fucked up. Not only engaging, is I, I waited to post a clip. And I had a feeling that a few people would, would talk some shit, so I pos- I waited to post it on a, an afternoon where I'd have some time to engage. Like, I knew I would engage.

Joe Rogan 33:56 You did it on purpose? You were ready?

Ralph Barbosa 33:57 Yeah, yeah. I was like, "Nah, 'cause I wanna see what people say," right?

Joe Rogan 34:00 Right.

Ralph Barbosa 34:00 Um, but after a while, I was like, "All right. I've engaged enough," like... But, yeah, after that I was like, "Nah, I'm not doing this again." That was kind of my like, "All right. I'm, I'm good on engaging point." That was when I realized, like, I should, I should not check social media anymore, or not as often. I posted a clip making fun of Latino Republicans.

Joe Rogan 34:20 (laughs)

Ralph Barbosa 34:22 I, I didn't even, like, say anything harsh, but they got mad. I didn't say... I j- all I said is they look weird. That's, that's like the heaviest thing I said-

Joe Rogan 34:31 (laughs)

Ralph Barbosa 34:32 ... was that it's weird to see a dude with an accent be like, "We gotta stop immigrants," you know? Like-

Joe Rogan 34:36 (laughs)

Ralph Barbosa 34:37 'Cause you're, like, wondering when they got here, like...

Joe Rogan 34:39 Right.

Ralph Barbosa 34:40 I didn't... I was like, "I don't know they're saying they're wrong." I mean, fucking Robitussin tastes weird, but, I mean, you need it, right? Like, maybe it's working. I don't know. So I'm not saying they're wrong. I just said they look weird.

Joe Rogan 34:49 Well, there's a shitload of them in Florida.

Ralph Barbosa 34:52 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 34:53 All the people that came from communist countries-

Ralph Barbosa 34:55 Oh, here in Texas, too.

Joe Rogan 34:56 ... because they're like, "Fuck that nonsense."

Ralph Barbosa 34:57 So, so a lot of the people who came from-

Joe Rogan 34:58 Hey, do you want one of these little cigars?

Ralph Barbosa 34:59 Yeah, hell yeah.

Joe Rogan 35:00 These little Ron White specials. Ron White got me on these little cigars, the little baby cigars so you don't have to finish a whole one.

Ralph Barbosa 35:05 A lot of the people who were commenting were, like, people who came from communist countries. And I don't know their experience, um, I don't know the experience of anybody, really. I'm just up there talking some shit. But-

Joe Rogan 35:15 Yeah.

Ralph Barbosa 35:15 ... I wasn't trying to change anybody's mind. I wasn't like, "You sh-"

Joe Rogan 35:18 You were just talking shit.

Ralph Barbosa 35:19 Yeah, I was like, "You shouldn't be." And people were in the comments, they were like, uh, they're like, "Well, Ralph doesn't understand politics." Yeah, I don't. It's just a joke, like...

Joe Rogan 35:28 Yeah, I'm just talking shit.

Ralph Barbosa 35:29 Also, I just said you look weird. I didn't say-

Joe Rogan 35:31 Yeah.

Ralph Barbosa 35:31 ... nothing wrong with it, you know what I mean? Some Versace shirts look weird.

Joe Rogan 35:35 They do look weird.

Ralph Barbosa 35:35 But they're nice.

Joe Rogan 35:36 They're nice.

Ralph Barbosa 35:37 You know what I mean?

Joe Rogan 35:38 Wasn't that what Shane got for the fights? He got a Versace shirt, a golden Versace shirt. That shit looked dope. That's a bold move, you know? You got a gold Versace shirt on, you're like, "I'm here to party."

Ralph Barbosa 35:50 That is bold.

Joe Rogan 35:50 You know?

Ralph Barbosa 35:50 Yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 35:50 That's like the ultimate Hawaiian shirt. Like, a Hawaiian shirt is, "I'm here to party." And a Ve- Versace shirt-

Ralph Barbosa 35:57 Oh, yeah, I saw it. He p- Uh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I know, I know what you're talking about. He posted a picture. There you go. Look at him.

Joe Rogan 36:03 With the president, with the former president. It's blurry as shit. It's a blurry picture.

Ralph Barbosa 36:10 That's a badass picture, by the way. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 36:12 There it is.

Ralph Barbosa 36:13 Like, I'm not, like, a Trump supporter or nothing, but that's just a fucking dope picture, gen-

Joe Rogan 36:16 That's a fun picture. Have you ever seen Shane's, uh, Trump impression?

Ralph Barbosa 36:19 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 36:19 It's fucking insane.

Ralph Barbosa 36:20 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 36:20 (laughs) It's so good.

Ralph Barbosa 36:23 You have, like, an ashtray? Oh, right there.

Joe Rogan 36:24 Yeah. All right, I want to make sure. If I was Trump's friend, I'd try to get him to shave his head. I'd be like, "Come on, bro."

Ralph Barbosa 36:30 I want to, I want to take more cool pictures like that-

Joe Rogan 36:33 Let's let it go.

Ralph Barbosa 36:33 ... and just post them every now and then. And I don't think he put like a caption, right?

Joe Rogan 36:36 I don't, I don't know what he put up.

Ralph Barbosa 36:38 I don't think he put a ca- Bro, that's fucking genius.

Joe Rogan 36:40 (laughs)

Ralph Barbosa 36:40 That's why this dude's like the next GOAT, bro.

Joe Rogan 36:43 Oh, he's so funny, man. He's so funny. He's-

Ralph Barbosa 36:46 That-

Joe Rogan 36:46 That video of his about Navy SEALs, oh my God.

Ralph Barbosa 36:48 Oh, yeah.

Joe Rogan 36:48 I could watch it 100 times. I could watch it 100 times. He's so funny, man. And he's out here too now. It's, it's cool because we've got like this real, like good vibe going where everybody's just really fucking having fun. It's, and it, and there's all these young guys coming up 'cause, like, a big point of the club was development. Like we wanna have two nights of open mic night every Sunday, every Monday, open mic night, and then Monday, Kill Tony. Kill Tony is the anchor. That's the anchor because they, it sets the tone of the culture. Like you have one minute. In that minute, you gotta be funny. You just gotta be go... And then people realize like, "Oh, that's what this is all about." Yeah, this is a art form. It's a art form and it's about how to be funny. And everybody's got their own way. You know, Ali Siddique has these great stories. He's got these beautiful long stories. He's an amazing storyteller, you know. And then you've got Joey Diaz who's like bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang.

Ralph Barbosa 37:44 That's funny as fuck.

Joe Rogan 37:44 He hits you with those bang, bang, bangs. You know, it's a t-

Ralph Barbosa 37:46 I love, I love the, uh, the upstairs room, the little boy because you've got comics going up, but you also have, like, every employee in the mothership going up.

Joe Rogan 37:55 Yeah, well, they're all comics.

Ralph Barbosa 37:55 You're giving a... Yeah, they're all comics too.

Joe Rogan 37:57 Yeah.

Ralph Barbosa 37:57 But you're giving them a chance, man. A lot of comics work the club to try to, like, get in with the club, uh, like across the country, whatever their club is. And sometimes even they don't get really the chance. You know what I mean?

Joe Rogan 38:09 Yeah. Well, we all came from open mics. Everybody did. Like that's the only way to do it. You have to get on stage.

Ralph Barbosa 38:18 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 38:18 So why would a club not have an open mic? And they're like, "Well, it doesn't, you know, we could fill it up with a headliner." Yeah, you could. You could, but you're making a short-term gain decision where you're making more money, and you're not looking at the long term just for the art form. The art form needs seeds. It needs plants. It needs someone to help. It needs someone to tend the garden.

Ralph Barbosa 38:45 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 38:45 It needs someone to give people opportunities and to say, like, "This is a renewable resource, this beautiful thing that we all enjoy." People talking shit, and us laughing. It's the b- it's the most beautiful thing.

Ralph Barbosa 38:57 There's-

Joe Rogan 38:57 I love it to death.

Ralph Barbosa 38:58 There's the art side and the business side.

Joe Rogan 39:00 Yeah, well, that's-

Ralph Barbosa 39:01 Like there's gotta be a balance to it.

Joe Rogan 39:02 That's where you, you gotta... (sighs) You gotta... I don't know, man. I, no one else, uh, I don't know anybody else who did it this way 'cause we had to do it in a way where, you know, we, we all got up and moved, right? So it was crazy in the first place. And we all took this chance to come here. And in the beginning, a lot of guys moved long before there was a club. So we were just doing the Vulcan and they had heard that, "Oh, they've got these wild ass shows they're doing in Texas indoors." In November of 2020, we were doing shows indoors. And it's just started coming. And then one day, we did a show with Ron White, and Ron White grabbed my shoulders. (laughs) He got off the... And he hadn't done stand- standup in like eight months. He grabs my shoulder, "Whatever the fuck we have to do, we're doing this."

Ralph Barbosa 39:51 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 39:51 He goes, he goes, "When are you gonna get your fucking club open up?" I go, "Let's fucking go, Ron White. Let's do this shit." He's like, "Let's fucking go." I mean, he had just gotten off stage.

Ralph Barbosa 40:01 Yeah, and then he gave you these cigars?

Joe Rogan 40:03 Yeah, he loves these little cigars.

Ralph Barbosa 40:04 I, I like these a lot.

Joe Rogan 40:05 He's like, "They're good if you want a whole cigar."

Ralph Barbosa 40:07 I never smoked a cigar until I hung out with Bert Kreischer-

Joe Rogan 40:08 You want a big one? You want a real cigar? Okay, I'll start.

Ralph Barbosa 40:10 Yeah, I'll take a big cigar.

Joe Rogan 40:12 Hold on, please. Hold please. (door opening and shutting) Get you some of these Foundation cigars. We got our own cigar, bro.

Ralph Barbosa 40:25 You, you make those cigars?

Joe Rogan 40:27 No, Found- uh, Foundation Cigars do.

Ralph Barbosa 40:29 Oh, I've never heard of that company. I'm new to the cigar world. I just got into it like in the summer. I'm learning.

Joe Rogan 40:34 Shout-out to my man Nick. Uh, yeah, this dude, uh, he, I was super skeptical. He goes, uh, "We made you some cigars." And I'm like, "Come on, man. These are probably gonna be wax cigars with a label on it." But no, this dude is like a real cigar head. Like, you know, he, he travels to the places where they grow it. And he got, he's involved in the whole process of it and...

Ralph Barbosa 40:56 Hell yeah.

Joe Rogan 40:56 He makes a bunch of like really dope cigars.

Ralph Barbosa 40:59 Like Willy Wonka when he traveled to the jungle to find Oompa Loompas and stuff like?

Joe Rogan 41:03 Something like that.

Ralph Barbosa 41:04 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 41:04 But anyway, any time I f- hear like... Here, you know how to work these? (cigarettes hissing) Like that.

Ralph Barbosa 41:09 Oh shit.

Joe Rogan 41:09 There you go. Anytime, um, I meet a dude who's like really into something, (machine whirring) like my friend Evan from B- Black Rifle Coffee. That dude is like super, super into coffee. And he's got this laboratory at his, uh, factory. He took us to the Black Rifle, uh, warehouses where they, you know, do all their work there and do all their roasting. They have these giant roasting machines. And he's got this laboratory where he's like testing different weights of how much coffee you put in, different temperatures. And they've got these dudes sitting around sipping them, trying to figure out what's the perfect way to do this shit. Like they're, they're doing it like a lab.

Ralph Barbosa 41:54 Professional sippers.

Joe Rogan 41:55 Yeah, man. (sipping coffee) But that's when you're gonna get that dope coffee, that really good coffee. I'm just-

Ralph Barbosa 42:04 I've just gotten into coffee this year.

Joe Rogan 42:05 Oh.

Ralph Barbosa 42:05 Coffee and cigars. That's, that's 2023 Ralph right there.

Joe Rogan 42:11 (sipping coffee) I had this dude on once, um... I always forget his name.

Ralph Barbosa 42:16 We had a lot of dudes on here once.

Joe Rogan 42:17 Peter Juliano. Peter Ju... Yeah, I've had a lot of dudes on here. But I had this dude on who was a real coffee expert. And he, he schooled me in all the different kinds of coffee and how they grow them and how they take care of them and s-

Ralph Barbosa 42:30 Hey, you had this one guy on here once. Uh, I remember watching the clips on YouTube, uh, where he was talking about like Christianity, like ancient Christianity.

Joe Rogan 42:38 ... yeah.

Ralph Barbosa 42:39 Um, and he asked you, uh, about, I think it, I think it was a clip about psychedelics-

Joe Rogan 42:45 Yeah.

Ralph Barbosa 42:46 ... like Chris, but he, I forgot how, I forgot the exact question he asked you. He was like, "Can I tell you," he's like, "Can I tell you about like the, the way Christianity was..." Or something like that. I forgot how, exact, the exact question he asked you. And you said, "Yeah." And then he comes like, "Yeah?" And then he kind of laughed a little bit. Bro actually scared the shit out of me. If I would've heard the guy laugh after he's like, "Can I tell you about this?" And I'm like, "Yeah." And then he laughs. I'd be like, "Never mind, bro." I feel like he might-

Joe Rogan 43:14 (laughs)

Ralph Barbosa 43:14 Why did he laugh? He, that guy's scary.

Joe Rogan 43:15 What are you gonna tell me? You're gonna say a magic spell? What are you gonna say?

Ralph Barbosa 43:20 He was talking about, uh, I don't remember all of it. I just remember he was talking about like that Christianity used to be kind of like a cult, and then he was saying something about they went underground with it to watch it or something, so it's-

Joe Rogan 43:30 Who was that, Jamie? You know who that is?

Narrator 43:33 Um, I was thinking he was talking about Brian Murareski-

Joe Rogan 43:35 Brian Murareski, probably.

Narrator 43:36 But this one, it could've been somebody else, but-

Joe Rogan 43:37 It might've been Brian. Brian's amazing.

Ralph Barbosa 43:39 Yeah, I mean, uh, it was a, it was a cool episode. I mean, I, I learned a lot of shit about Christianity that I later forgot, but it was just-

Joe Rogan 43:46 (laughs)

Ralph Barbosa 43:46 ... man, it was just that one que- the one word, the one way he asked the question that scared the shit out of me.

Joe Rogan 43:50 (laughs)

Ralph Barbosa 43:50 And I was watching the clip like at 1:00 AM, just chilling, you know. So I turned that off, and I just turned the lights on in my room. I was like, "All right, all right." It freaked me out a little bit.

Joe Rogan 43:57 It's, what's interesting about Christianity, everybody wants to know what was the first shit they wrote down. Like, everybody knows like the New Testament, right, the New Testament. But then you go, "What about the, what about the Old Testament?" Like, ah, that's, uh, don't pay attention to that.

Ralph Barbosa 44:13 Yeah, I don't really like that, that they be changing shit, you know. Give me one set of rules, leave it. Now, if you choose to follow them or not, that's on you, but don't change shit.

Joe Rogan 44:21 But even if it is the writings of Jesus, even if it is the writings of, even if all that is unadulterated, it's not been altered by human beings, it's still put together by people, written down by people-

Ralph Barbosa 44:35 You ever, uh, you ever do that thing?

Joe Rogan 44:36 ... and very different than the Old Testament.

Ralph Barbosa 44:38 They, uh, I remember they did this like at Barber College once just to like teach us a lesson or some shit. I don't know. But they had this long bench, and they sat down all the students, and our instructor whispered a secret to the first person-

Joe Rogan 44:53 Right.

Ralph Barbosa 44:53 ... on the far right, and then they gotta keep-

Joe Rogan 44:54 Telephone game.

Ralph Barbosa 44:55 Yeah, yeah, you gotta just keep whispering the secret down the line and by the end of the line, it's a totally different sentence.

Joe Rogan 45:00 Right.

Ralph Barbosa 45:01 That shit made me never want to, like, check out the Bible anymore.

Joe Rogan 45:04 (laughs) Yeah, the Bible was, uh, they think they, it was an oral tradition for hundreds, if not 1,000 years before they ever wrote it down.

Ralph Barbosa 45:15 God damn. That's a-

Joe Rogan 45:17 Yeah.

Ralph Barbosa 45:17 Yeah, that's a lot of mix-up.

Joe Rogan 45:19 Could be.

Ralph Barbosa 45:20 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 45:20 Yeah, for sure people could've added some shit in there.

Ralph Barbosa 45:22 You religious at all? Like, do you go to church or anything? You follow a religion?

Joe Rogan 45:25 I, I'm not religious, but I'm not an atheist. People always say I'm an atheist. I'm not an atheist.

Ralph Barbosa 45:30 I, I feel like I'm on something like that, you know. Uh, there's something going on out there, but, uh, I, I mean, I grew up like somewhat Catholic, like how most Mexican Catholics are. Like, maybe you don't go to church, but you do this thing all the time.

Joe Rogan 45:42 Yeah.

Ralph Barbosa 45:43 So like I still like, you know, like, but, yeah, there is, I don't know, man. I don't know what to believe. I do want to have a religion. I'm not gonna lie, but sometimes I don't.

Joe Rogan 45:51 It'd be nice if there was a good one, one you could like really lock into, like, "Man, you guys are making sense."

Ralph Barbosa 45:56 Well, I just like that people really like lock into something, and like, I don't know, man. I wanna, I wanna like defend something. I wanna be like, "You don't speak that way about Allah."

Joe Rogan 46:07 Right.

Ralph Barbosa 46:07 But-

Joe Rogan 46:08 It's a nice gang to be a part of.

Ralph Barbosa 46:09 Right?

Joe Rogan 46:10 Very aggressive gang.

Ralph Barbosa 46:11 But I also feel like the gang I belong to, whether I like it or not, is like the comedy world.

Joe Rogan 46:16 Yeah.

Ralph Barbosa 46:16 Just make fun of everything.

Joe Rogan 46:18 Yeah. That's our gang. But I think religion helps a lot of people, and I don't necessarily think it's-

Ralph Barbosa 46:26 Oh, yeah.

Joe Rogan 46:26 I, I think it came from somewhere, and I think there's, there's like real wisdom to these stories that people wrote down thousands of years ago. But there's a lot of problems in the translations, too, 'cause they're translating shit from, uh, like the... Here's a good example. The Dead Sea Scrolls is the oldest version of the Bible that they're aware of, and it's from, uh, Qumran. It's these, uh, it's this, the, they had these like, these caves, and they found these big pottery vessels with scrolls in them. And these scrolls, uh, they're all made of, uh, animal skins. Like that's how old they are.

Ralph Barbosa 47:06 Oh, shit.

Joe Rogan 47:06 That was their paper. They wrote on animal skins. And the, one of the ways that they figured out, they had to put it all together again, and a lot of it was crumpled and falling apart. And so they had to do DNA testing so that they could figure out, okay, this sample, these samples are all from this cow, and so we'll put these here. And it took, it took them fucking years and years and years to do this. And out of, after 14 years of deciphering it, there was this one guy, his name is John Marco Allegro, and he was, uh, uh, he was a p- an ordained minister, but he was also agnostic because when he studied theology, the more he started studying it, the more he's like, "Wait a minute, what the fuck is, how come this is so much different than this? And what's the origins of these words, and where does this all come from?" So this guy studies this Dead Sea Scrolls for 14 years, and then he writes a book called The Sacred Mushroom and the Cross, and he said that the whole Christian religion was really about psychedelic mushrooms and fertility rituals, that these people had hidden all of these stories in these allegories and in these tales. They'd hidden all this information on what to do and when to do it. And that all, like it's a very, very controversial book, but that all of the, like even-

Ralph Barbosa 48:25 You think they got it at Barnes & Nobles?

Joe Rogan 48:27 I think you could probably get it now. I know-

Ralph Barbosa 48:29 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 48:29 ... it got, yeah, it got republished. It, it was, I think it was bought out by the Catholic Church for a long time, and then-

Ralph Barbosa 48:35 Wow. I didn't know the Catholic Church was buying out books, like fucking-

Joe Rogan 48:37 They didn't want this one out.

Ralph Barbosa 48:39 ... some Wolf of Wall Street shit.

Joe Rogan 48:40 I don't know if that's true. I need to find out if that's true 'cause I've said it before, 'cause someone told it to me.

Ralph Barbosa 48:44 Dude, you say it with enough confidence it's true.

Joe Rogan 48:46 Yeah, if you say it with enough confidence you could get people who will-

Ralph Barbosa 48:48 Catholic Church bought out GameStop a couple years ago.

Joe Rogan 48:51 (laughs) They're responsible for Battlefield Earth.

Ralph Barbosa 48:53 Hell yeah.Man, that's crazy that they were riding on, like, cow skin.

Joe Rogan 48:57 Yeah, that's all they had.

Ralph Barbosa 48:58 Fucking cows, man. Cows have never had it easy on this earth, bro.

Joe Rogan 49:01 Nope. Nope.

Ralph Barbosa 49:02 Kobe beef. Even when they have a good life, it's only for Kobe beef, you know what I mean?

Joe Rogan 49:06 Right. Even if you're a good life, it's only like 16 years old.

Ralph Barbosa 49:09 Ima- wha- wha- what is it like in Japan where they really, like, massage them and feed 'em-

Joe Rogan 49:13 Yeah.

Ralph Barbosa 49:13 ... and feed 'em-

Joe Rogan 49:13 And feed 'em beer.

Ralph Barbosa 49:13 Imagine being that cow just being like, "Damn, I've heard about cows that get slaughtered, but, man, I got lucky to be born in this life."

Joe Rogan 49:19 (laughs)

Ralph Barbosa 49:19 And they're like, "Nope. You got slightly luckier than the other cows, but still a cow."

Joe Rogan 49:24 Well, the thing about cows is if you care about, like, suffering, if y- you can buy beef from a regenerative farm where that cow dies instantly, lives a great life until it dies. And then you'd say like, "No, we should let 'em free. They should be free." The way they die when they're free is horrific.

Ralph Barbosa 49:44 Yeah?

Joe Rogan 49:44 Horrific. Yeah. Because they get eaten to death.

Ralph Barbosa 49:47 Oh yeah, right.

Joe Rogan 49:48 Yeah.

Ralph Barbosa 49:48 Yeah, okay.

Joe Rogan 49:48 They get eaten.

Ralph Barbosa 49:49 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 49:49 They... Most of 'em are not gonna make it past-

Ralph Barbosa 49:51 Who eats 'em?

Joe Rogan 49:51 ... being a calf, mountain lions, bears, wolves. If they... They bring wolves back. They've brought wolves back everywhere now. They've... Wolves are in Colorado now.

Ralph Barbosa 50:01 Wolves are back now?

Joe Rogan 50:01 They're, they're moving 'em in. Yeah, they're moving 'em in.

Ralph Barbosa 50:03 Fat ass.

Joe Rogan 50:04 I don't know, bro.

Ralph Barbosa 50:04 You ever heard ♪ The wolves are back in town ♪

Joe Rogan 50:06 (laughs)

Ralph Barbosa 50:07 ♪ The wolves are back in town ♪

Joe Rogan 50:07 I think that's the Boys.

Ralph Barbosa 50:09 Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, you know, you know, they meant.

Joe Rogan 50:11 If the wolves are back in town, they're going to eat your dog. They're gonna kill your kids.

Ralph Barbosa 50:14 Oh. Oh, shit. I didn't think about that.

Joe Rogan 50:16 Yeah. It's the Little Red Riding Hood shit, man. That's all the big bad wolf. That's 'cause in Europe, in like the 1400s or whatever the fuck they're called-

Ralph Barbosa 50:22 They were eating people's grandmas and shit?

Joe Rogan 50:24 They ate everybody. Wolves ate people.

Ralph Barbosa 50:27 Wait, wait, what year was this?

Joe Rogan 50:28 (laughs)

Ralph Barbosa 50:29 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 50:30 Listen, wolves always eat people. In World War I, there was a ceasefire between the Germans and the Russians because wolves were eating so many soldiers that they decided to band together and kill the wolves.

Ralph Barbosa 50:43 Oh, shit. So, you know, maybe they're not a problem.

Joe Rogan 50:46 Well, wolves are a problem.

Ralph Barbosa 50:46 The world is very split right now. Maybe wolves are gonna bring us back together.

Joe Rogan 50:51 Maybe, man.

Ralph Barbosa 50:52 Also, maybe we need to bring back psychedelic Christianity.

Joe Rogan 50:56 I think that-

Ralph Barbosa 50:56 Maybe that's what Red Riding Hood was on. That's why she thought the wolf was her grandma and shit.

Joe Rogan 51:00 Probably. Tripping.

Ralph Barbosa 51:01 Bitch was tripping.

Joe Rogan 51:02 Yeah. Imagine how high you have to be to think a wolf with a dress is your grandma.

Ralph Barbosa 51:06 I'll tell you this, though, on the whole Christian psychedelic trip shit. One time, I ate like nine, 10 grams of shrooms. And I swear to God, the ceiling, there was a face in it. And I s- like for some reason, in my mind, I was like, "That's God." And he was fucking pissed. And then I-

Joe Rogan 51:22 He's pissed?

Ralph Barbosa 51:22 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 51:23 At you?

Ralph Barbosa 51:24 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 51:24 For what?

Ralph Barbosa 51:25 For... I don't know.

Joe Rogan 51:26 (laughs)

Ralph Barbosa 51:26 I think it's just 'cause on the inside, I'm always... Like I've never done mushrooms out in the, like during the day. I know some people are like, "Yeah, man, do mushrooms. Go to a park." Nah. Uh-uh. 'Cause I do believe there's, like, God out there, some sort of God. And I don't think he's necessarily like, um, like the good guy on the TV show. I think he's God. You know what I mean? You ever had, like, a boss, like at a, like at a place?

Joe Rogan 51:50 Right.

Ralph Barbosa 51:50 And maybe he's not exactly fair, maybe he's not exactly nice, but he's the fucking boss. And when he says, "Go." And I feel like maybe that's what God is, you know? For better or worse. And I feel like if I do mushrooms out in the open, he's gonna be, like, mad. So I do them at night.

Joe Rogan 52:04 (laughs)

Ralph Barbosa 52:04 I usually do them in my hotel rooms. I'll do research on hotels that have, like, artwork and stuff. Like Hotel Indigo's (blows raspberries) great place to trip.

Joe Rogan 52:11 (laughs)

Ralph Barbosa 52:11 Especially the one in Houston. If I go to Houston, I'm staying at the Hotel Indigo.

Joe Rogan 52:16 Uh...

Ralph Barbosa 52:16 But yeah, the ceiling, man. Oh, I was tripping so hard. And the face came out, and it looked like it, like it looked like a hand and then like an elbow, and then I felt like he was putting his elbow on my neck.

Joe Rogan 52:28 Whoa.

Ralph Barbosa 52:28 And I couldn't breathe. I started trying to breathe real hard like (gasps) . And my buddy was like, having a nice trip. He was just like, "That's right, man, breathe." I was like, "No, dumbass. Like, I can't breathe." Like... (laughs)

Joe Rogan 52:37 'Cause God's choking you.

Ralph Barbosa 52:38 Yeah, God was like putting the pressure down on my neck. But I feel like that was-

Joe Rogan 52:42 Hmm.

Ralph Barbosa 52:42 That was maybe in my mind.

Joe Rogan 52:43 Well, it's definitely in your mind.

Ralph Barbosa 52:44 Yeah, you know, like, just feeling pressure's in general.

Joe Rogan 52:47 Right. Right.

Ralph Barbosa 52:48 And wondering if I'm doing the right thing or not.

Joe Rogan 52:49 Yeah. Well, a lot of changes have happened really quickly with you. You know, Brian Simpson was telling me that you were gonna open for him one weekend, and you-

Ralph Barbosa 52:58 In January of 2022, I think.

Joe Rogan 53:00 ... couldn't do it. And then you blew up, and then he called you, and you're like, "Bro, I'm headlining on all these clubs now."

Ralph Barbosa 53:06 No, he's made... He... That story... (laughs)

Joe Rogan 53:08 That's what he said.

Ralph Barbosa 53:09 The story's a little different.

Joe Rogan 53:10 He said you were doing great.

Ralph Barbosa 53:12 I mean, yeah. Doing...

Joe Rogan 53:13 He said it was a period of a few months, and he, he got ahold of you, and you were headlining everywhere.

Ralph Barbosa 53:18 I can't... Man, I shouldn't say how the story went because I'm not even sure how the story went. Maybe that is how it went.

Joe Rogan 53:22 (laughs)

Ralph Barbosa 53:22 I do remember we spoke, and I was just telling him, I'm like, "Man, I'm gonna..." Like, "I do wanna open for you because..." 'Cause he's fucking... Brian Simpson, that dude's hilarious, you know?

Joe Rogan 53:30 Hilarious.

Ralph Barbosa 53:31 But at the same time, I was like, "I kinda wanna take my chances on some headlining. Head- like headlining my own shows here."

Joe Rogan 53:36 Mm-hmm.

Ralph Barbosa 53:36 But looking back on it, I'm- I mean, there's no regrets. I feel like as long as I'm doing whatever I feel like doing in that moment, there's no regrets, you know?

Joe Rogan 53:43 Yeah.

Ralph Barbosa 53:44 But looking back on it, I do wish things would have gone maybe a little slower for me. Just because I was still a feature.

Joe Rogan 53:54 Right.

Ralph Barbosa 53:54 I wasn't used to headlining shows when I started headlining shows, and I feel like a lot of my shows were me still very much learning and getting comfortable with an hour on stage. And like, I love my Netflix special. Don't get me wrong. Like, I'm, I'm like proud of it. I want people to watch it. But I feel like after the special came out is when I actually got to like enjoy, enjoy headlining-

Joe Rogan 54:16 Hmm.

Ralph Barbosa 54:17 ... on the road. And I feel like now I'm in... I'm, I'm at a much more comfortable level. And now, I f- (laughs) I mean, I'm pretty sure this happens to a lot of comics. But I feel like this material now, like, this is where it's at, you know?

Joe Rogan 54:29 Yeah.

Ralph Barbosa 54:30 I don't even want to post. Like, I wanna post it. I have-

Joe Rogan 54:32 Right.

Ralph Barbosa 54:32 ... certain jokes that I'm like, "Bro, if I could just post this, people would fuck with it, I bet." But there's a lot of it that I'm like, "Nah, if I don't post it-"

Joe Rogan 54:39 Yeah.

Ralph Barbosa 54:40 "... I c- I c- I can just keep doing it, like, on the road, and, and give people-"

Joe Rogan 54:43 And keep- and-

Ralph Barbosa 54:43 "... a hell of a show."

Joe Rogan 54:44 And put it together on your next special. You're on the road. You're, you're on your path now, man. That's fucking awesome. That's what it's about. How old are you?

Ralph Barbosa 54:52 27.

Joe Rogan 54:53 That's beautiful. That's beautiful. What a good time.

Ralph Barbosa 54:57 Yeah, I like 27, man. 26 was better-

Joe Rogan 54:59 (laughs)

Ralph Barbosa 55:00 ... but 27's all right.

Joe Rogan 55:01 Listen, I know it all came fast to you, but you just got to accept that gift. This is just a ... You know you can't... You gotta, you got a gift. It's a beautiful gift of being in the right time, with the right tools available, and having a g- a great set, and having-

Ralph Barbosa 55:16 (coughs)

Joe Rogan 55:16 ... uh, a piece of that get out.

Ralph Barbosa 55:17 I tried to inhale that one. Sorry.

Joe Rogan 55:18 Yeah, don't inhale this, man. It'll fuck you up. But it's, you know, it's a gift by the universe, and you gotta, you know, you gotta ride that gift. And it's gonna be... It's weirder that you go from middling, all of a sudden you're headlining everywhere-

Ralph Barbosa 55:29 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 55:29 ... but so what? You're funny, man.

Ralph Barbosa 55:31 I felt like a young Rocky. Like, you know how in Rocky I, he's like kind of older already?

Joe Rogan 55:35 Right.

Ralph Barbosa 55:36 And then out of nowhere he gets this shot, you know?

Joe Rogan 55:37 Right.

Ralph Barbosa 55:38 Um, I felt like, maybe like a younger, inexperienced Rocky, and then I got like a shot.

Joe Rogan 55:43 Yeah.

Ralph Barbosa 55:43 You know?

Joe Rogan 55:44 Right.

Ralph Barbosa 55:44 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 55:44 But that's... But the audience knows though too. That's the cool thing. Like, they know that you're kinda new to this, but they love you and they want to come see you.

Ralph Barbosa 55:52 Yeah, it's been dope, man. People are so supportive.

Joe Rogan 55:55 Do you remember that g- g... What is that girl's name? Is it Angela Johnson?

Ralph Barbosa 55:58 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 55:58 The one who has that Vietnamese bit?

Ralph Barbosa 56:00 She helped me out a lot, by the way.

Joe Rogan 56:02 Yeah. That girl had the same kind of thing happen to her.

Ralph Barbosa 56:04 Yeah, she was doing comedy like a few months or something like that-

Joe Rogan 56:06 (coughs)

Ralph Barbosa 56:06 ... and then her bit went viral on MySpace.

Joe Rogan 56:09 (coughs) Bro, she was middling and selling out clubs, and then people would leave when the headliner would go up.

Ralph Barbosa 56:15 That's got to fucking piss off a headliner.

Joe Rogan 56:17 Oh, my God. Could you imagine? Like, the place is packed and you're the headliner, but you know they're all there for the middle act?

Ralph Barbosa 56:23 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 56:24 What a drag, man.

Ralph Barbosa 56:26 That's good.

Joe Rogan 56:26 But that was real. That was what was going on for, for a while with her.

Ralph Barbosa 56:29 She was telling me about that for a while. She was... She's so nice. She sold out, uh ... She was ... 'Cause she's like doing theaters or whatever.

Joe Rogan 56:36 She's a ... Isn't she a serious Christian?

Ralph Barbosa 56:38 Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 56:39 Yeah, she's a serious Christian.

Ralph Barbosa 56:39 She, uh, she was doing like theaters, or she is doing theaters, and then she did like a special, like 20 ... What year are we in right now? 23?

Joe Rogan 56:47 23.

Ralph Barbosa 56:48 So like 22 maybe it was. I might be getting this wrong.

Joe Rogan 56:52 You want some coffee?

Ralph Barbosa 56:53 I'm okay, I'm okay.

Joe Rogan 56:54 Okay.

Ralph Barbosa 56:54 I'm good, man. But she was... She put out this special, and she had been like, you know, doing theaters. But after she did th- her special, her last special, she booked a lot of club gigs she told me. And so she went to San Antonio to the LOL to just book back-to-back gigs to keep running material and shit. And, um, I- I don't know, I kinda just took like a page from that book.

Joe Rogan 57:16 Mm-hmm.

Ralph Barbosa 57:16 I was opening her for like eight of those shows, and we did LOL and San Antonio, I mean, fucking ... You know, it's like Mexico City there.

Joe Rogan 57:25 (laughs)

Ralph Barbosa 57:26 So like I have a lot of tickets to sell there, man. So anytime they wanted to add a show, I was like, "Yes, add it. Yes, add it." Like I'm just gonna work out so much shit here. But then I ... Now that I did it, we did the first weekend. The first weekend was 10 shows. This next up, coming up weekend is the next 10 shows. But like six, five shows in, I was like, "Well, hold up. This might be a l- not as productive as I thought it was, because every audience is just 99% Latino, Hispanic, Mexican." And I, I ... Like, "Fuck." I was like, "I- I need (laughs) I need to work out material in front of everybody. It can't just be only my audience. It can't just be Hispanics. Like, they're gonna fucking ... They're gonna baby me too much. Like, I'm not gonna grow." So I came down here. I was like, "Fucking ..." Like, no offense to my audience. I love 'em. Like, "Fucking keep coming out. I'll fuck with 'em all day." But I also needed to get in front of strangers. I also needed to get in front of different people, some Asians, some Indians, some white guys. Like, "I need to get in front of everybody if, if, if I truly want to grow." At least that's my opinion. You know what I mean?

Joe Rogan 58:22 I think that's a good opinion, and I think that opinion's shared by a lot of people. I think, uh, getting in front of as many different audiences is real important, especially in the early days.

Ralph Barbosa 58:31 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 58:31 You know? You've got ... That's why the road, I think, is so important. If you live in New York City y- you kind of think that everybody thinks like people from New York City, and then you go do a gig in Oklahoma and you're like, "Oh, okay."

Ralph Barbosa 58:41 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 58:41 And-

Ralph Barbosa 58:41 I love New York too though, 'cause it, 'cause you-

Joe Rogan 58:43 New York's great.

Ralph Barbosa 58:43 ... get a little bit of like those diverse strangers.

Joe Rogan 58:45 Oh, New York's great. New York's an amazing place to do comedy.

Ralph Barbosa 58:48 It's like comedy gym, like comedy ... You ever watch, uh, what is it, Christian Bale's Batman?

Joe Rogan 58:53 Mm-hmm.

Ralph Barbosa 58:53 And he goes up to like Nepal to become Batman, to like train?

Joe Rogan 58:56 Uh-huh.

Ralph Barbosa 58:56 Sometimes, man, when I was frustrated, and e- especially before I got to tour, when I was still just like a feature, an opener, you know what I mean? A, a, an open mic, uh, go crash on my buddy's couch for like a month or two in New York and just-

Joe Rogan 59:07 Nice.

Ralph Barbosa 59:07 ... fucking work it out. You know what I mean?

Joe Rogan 59:08 Yeah. You know, New York has, uh, always been a great place for talent, you know. I mean, there's always guys like Attell in New York and there's ... It's ... Ari's always in New York. A- and it's a ... New York's a great place. It's just not for me, man.

Ralph Barbosa 59:22 No?

Joe Rogan 59:22 It's too many fucking people, too many people jammed on top of each other. I'm just too ... Uh, I don't like that that much.

Ralph Barbosa 59:29 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 59:29 I like some quiet.

Ralph Barbosa 59:31 I do.

Joe Rogan 59:31 I like some peace.

Ralph Barbosa 59:32 Yeah. I feel that. I live, uh, I live out in the country right now.

Joe Rogan 59:35 Oh, do you?

Ralph Barbosa 59:35 Yeah, I live out ... Like a hour south of Dallas.

Joe Rogan 59:37 Oh, that's great.

Ralph Barbosa 59:38 Uh, my dad lives out there. He bought land when he was like 20 there, like a little trailer home, and he always kept it. He'd move around a lot 'cause, you know, he was an unstable guy, just up and down, whatever. But he always kept that land, and once he became more of like a family man, 'cause, you know, he's married to my stepmom, I have younger siblings, he like, you know, made sure that they lived there. He got out of prison like 2019 and he went back to like painting cars, working on cars, started saving money, started doing like contractor jobs, started his own business. Now he does like pretty big business, contract-type work with a couple other guys that have their own business. And he like built his dream house-

Joe Rogan 1:00:22 Oh, nice.

Ralph Barbosa 1:00:23 ... on that land. No more trailer home. He gave the trailer home to my cousin and they moved it like further back on the next piece of land so, you know, now he has to like start his own little journey or whatever.

Joe Rogan 1:00:33 Nice.

Ralph Barbosa 1:00:33 But he built that, uh, he built that house and it's nice, man. I started building a house on that land as well before my cousin's house so I could like outshine my cousin's house.

Joe Rogan 1:00:42 (laughs)

Ralph Barbosa 1:00:43 But it's not done. But my house is purely ... Like, I'm not even looking forward to ... I'm not even trying too much right now to like actually build a house and be like, "This is how I want my kitchen and living room." Not even worried about it. The h- Where I'm ... The living compartment is on the upstairs. I'm worried about the downstairs, 'cause that's gonna be like my shop. I used to paint cars and I wanna, I wanna do that in my free time again.

Joe Rogan 1:01:03 What kind of painting?

Ralph Barbosa 1:01:04 ... like, uh, I was, I was still very much, like-

Joe Rogan 1:01:07 Like artistic painting, you mean?

Ralph Barbosa 1:01:08 No, like, you know, paint the cars, like-

Joe Rogan 1:01:10 Right.

Ralph Barbosa 1:01:10 ... paint them blue, paint them red, you know.

Joe Rogan 1:01:12 Oh, just painting cars.

Ralph Barbosa 1:01:13 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:01:13 Painting cars.

Ralph Barbosa 1:01:13 Detailing them afterwards, you know?

Joe Rogan 1:01:15 Oh, okay.

Ralph Barbosa 1:01:15 Uh, I always wanted to paint candy, but you need a lot of experience. A lot of people don't know, when you're painting candy, you can't just do the quarter panel and then move to the door.

Joe Rogan 1:01:23 What do-

Ralph Barbosa 1:01:23 You gotta do, like, the whole sur-

Joe Rogan 1:01:25 What do you mean by candy?

Ralph Barbosa 1:01:26 Like, you know, candy paint, like real, real glittery, real pretty-ass paint.

Joe Rogan 1:01:29 Oh, is that what it's called?

Ralph Barbosa 1:01:30 Yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:01:31 All right.

Ralph Barbosa 1:01:31 Come on, man. You're in Texas now. You gotta learn about candy paint.

Joe Rogan 1:01:32 I didn't know it was called can- I did- I didn't know that was what it was called.

Ralph Barbosa 1:01:35 Yeah, you ever go to a car show and, and maybe one car just fucking pops-

Joe Rogan 1:01:39 Yeah.

Ralph Barbosa 1:01:39 ... way more, has way more flake in it.

Joe Rogan 1:01:41 Yeah. Yeah.

Ralph Barbosa 1:01:42 It's candy paint. But it's tough to paint. You gotta, you gotta be a skilled, like, experienced painter 'cause you can't just fucking... You know, you, you always gotta be careful how you adjust your gun, right? You want, you don't want your pattern too wide, too narrow.

Joe Rogan 1:01:53 Oh, you're super serious about this shit.

Ralph Barbosa 1:01:55 Oh, yeah, man. Painting, I thought that was my thing.

Joe Rogan 1:01:58 Really?

Ralph Barbosa 1:01:58 Yeah, I'd get so discouraged at open mics, I'd be like, "Let me stick to painting. Let me just stick to painting."

Joe Rogan 1:02:02 Wow.

Ralph Barbosa 1:02:03 But that shit- yeah, it's fucking dope, man. And my uncle's like, in my opinion, he's like a grandmaster painter, he's been painting for years. He learned... So my dad had a body shop when I was a kid, very small. Now, back in these days, my dad was involved in, you know, less than legal business, so this body shop was a front technically. You know what I mean? But, I mean, they got business and they got good and, and my dad hired this painter named Alfred, may he rest in peace. Alfred, fucking badass painter, crazy old guy. He us- he used to know how to break dance. That shit was badass. Alfred taught my uncle how to paint, my uncle Jose. And when my uncle was young, my uncle was kind of like a knucklehead at one point, involved in like, as a teenager, he was involved in like fucking gang shit, some drug deals, whatever. But my uncle had a kid very young and, like, snapped out of it quick. Just wanted to be like a respectable man, just do the right thing. You know what I mean?

Joe Rogan 1:02:59 Right.

Ralph Barbosa 1:03:00 And he's still that guy to this day. My uncle's been working the body shop since he was like... Uh, I might be getting the age wrong, but he's like 20. Right now, he's in his like late 30s, mid-30s. And he's still, he's still like the guy who goes into the shop at 8:00 AM, will stay there till fucking midnight if he has to, but he puts food on the table. You know what I'm saying?

Joe Rogan 1:03:18 Right.

Ralph Barbosa 1:03:19 But he learned from this dude Alfred, fucking badass knowledge on painting. My uncle would teach it to me. When I was a teenager, my dad also had a car wash and I would go work in the summer sometimes and I, and I would get so mad at the car wash, like, "I hate it." I'm like, "Bro, anybody can just fucking rinse the car off, put the soap, like..." It was next door, like across the street from the body shop. So after work, we would go hang out at the body shop with everybody. I would tell my uncle, 'cause I didn't know if my dad was gonna take me serious or not. I'd be like, "Can you teach me how to paint?" I was like, "I don't wanna work over there." I was like, "Don't even pay me if you don't want. Just teach me how to paint. Have me over here, like, I wanna sand the cars. I wanna fucking do real shit, you know?"

Joe Rogan 1:03:57 Yeah.

Ralph Barbosa 1:03:57 So he'd teach me every now and then. As I got older, I'd spend a couple weekends over there at the body shop with my uncle, whatever. Um, after high school, while my dad was already locked up or whatever, my uncle, I guess, to like check on me, make sure I wasn't like getting sad or some shit, he would, he would just call me, kind of would give me a choice. He's be like, "Hey, I need help. Like, come help me out with her." I'm like, "All right." And then I started getting good. I went to paint school for a while to get like certified. Those guys hooked me up with a job, like, at a better shop. My uncle... I would also cut hair. So my uncle would always be like, "Man, just be a barber. Like, you don't wanna be in a fucking shop, sweating your ass off, breaking your back. Like, do something where you're gonna be in the AC." You know what I mean? "Like work smarter, not harder." But I was, uh, I eventually did that, but at the time I'm like, "I wanna fucking learn this, you know?"

Joe Rogan 1:04:44 Yeah.

Ralph Barbosa 1:04:44 Like, "Let me do this." So I went and worked at a body shop and I worked at one where this f- this painter... Man, I hate not to talk down on another man, but that guy wasn't worth a fuck. He was a cool painter, but he didn't care. So I was the paint prepper, you know, he started-

Joe Rogan 1:04:59 What do you mean he didn't care?

Ralph Barbosa 1:05:01 Like, he wasn't in there to do good work. He, he was in there to just get his paycheck, and he wasn't even like there a lot of the time, man. Uh, you know, like there's a lot of preparation that goes into painting a car, a lot of sanding. So you gotta fucking sand and sand and sand and make sure you sand this and then you gotta clean it this way and make sure there's no like type of chemicals in the air. Like you can't keep like the-

Joe Rogan 1:05:24 What does that-

Ralph Barbosa 1:05:24 ... like Armor All or anything they use for detail cars, you can't have that in the same room you're painting in. You'll get a chemical reaction and your paint job will look like shit.

Joe Rogan 1:05:31 Really?

Ralph Barbosa 1:05:32 Yeah, it's like s-

Joe Rogan 1:05:32 Just in the air?

Ralph Barbosa 1:05:33 Yeah, there's tons of little details. Mechanic work and paint work cannot be in the same room.

Joe Rogan 1:05:38 Really?

Ralph Barbosa 1:05:39 Yeah, you just can't, you can't have it, you know what I mean?

Joe Rogan 1:05:41 So Armor All just being in the room will fuck up your paint?

Ralph Barbosa 1:05:45 Yeah, bro. If you like, let's say-

Joe Rogan 1:05:48 That's wild.

Ralph Barbosa 1:05:48 Let's say you like sprayed some Armor All on some shit or you wiped the car down and you, and you weren't supposed to, like, which- 'cause anything that was like cleaning product, it, it- you have to be careful what exactly you're using.

Joe Rogan 1:05:58 So you're saying if the Armor All contacted the paint physically.

Ralph Barbosa 1:06:02 Nah, like even if it's just kind of like...

Joe Rogan 1:06:04 In the air?

Ralph Barbosa 1:06:05 Yeah. I mean, at least that's-

Joe Rogan 1:06:06 But it's that-

Ralph Barbosa 1:06:06 ... how careful we were, like-

Joe Rogan 1:06:07 But then what is that doing to you then?

Ralph Barbosa 1:06:09 What do you mean?

Joe Rogan 1:06:10 If you got-

Ralph Barbosa 1:06:10 Oh, all the paint stuff?