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Joe Rogan Experience #2066 - Ralph Barbosa

Ralph Barbosa is a stand-up comic. His new comedy special, "Ralph Barbosa: Cowabunga," is available to stream on Netflix.  www.barbosacomedy.com

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Jun 27, 20242h 49mWatch on YouTube ↗

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  1. 0:00 – 1:26

    Ralph Barbosa joins Rogan in Austin’s booming comedy hub

    1. NA

      (drumming music) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out.

    2. The Joe Rogan Experience.

    3. Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. (rock music)

    4. JR

      Joe Rogan, how are you?

    5. RB

      What's up, young gun? How are you?

    6. JR

      What's up, man?

    7. RB

      Ralph Barboza on the way up. What's happening? (laughs) Hey, it's good to be here.

    8. JR

      (laughs) Good to have you, man. I hear good things about you. I was just talking to Brian Simpson about you today.

    9. RB

      Oh, I'm a huge Brian Simpson fan.

    10. JR

      I love that dude.

    11. RB

      Yeah, he's cool.

    12. JR

      We were working out today and he was just saying great things about you.

    13. RB

      No offense to Brian Simpson, but he works out?

    14. JR

      (laughs)

    15. RB

      (laughs) I never, I never thought-

    16. JR

      Oh, shit. (laughs)

    17. RB

      ... I'd hear, like, that sentence.

    18. JR

      He does now.

    19. RB

      Aye, hell yeah.

    20. JR

      He's, yeah, he's been working out with me for three weeks now. I got, like, a little comedy boot camp going on over here.

    21. RB

      Yeah?

    22. JR

      Yeah.

    23. RB

      That's-

    24. JR

      Yeah, Shane Gillis, Duncan Trussell, Hasan Ahmad, Brian Simpson, and me, we, uh, get together and put, get some workouts in.

    25. RB

      All those guys are, uh, are living down here?

    26. JR

      Yeah, they're all living down here.

    27. RB

      That's dope, man.

    28. JR

      Yeah, it's dope.

    29. RB

      Austin's pretty dope.

    30. JR

      Austin's dope right now.

  2. 1:26 – 5:00

    From “woke Austin” to ‘buck wild’—how COVID reshaped the comedy ecosystem

    1. RB

      You know, you know, it used to be like, before COVID, Austin was, as far as Texas goes, Austin was, like, the place to go if you were too scared to, like, go to New York or LA.

    2. JR

      (laughs)

    3. RB

      People were like, "Just go to Austin," you know. It stayed busy. But it was also, like, very woke. And so you, you had, you had to be like real careful. And now it's like, nah, it's just-

    4. JR

      It's buck wild.

    5. RB

      Yes.

    6. JR

      It's buck wild. (laughs)

    7. RB

      I like that, yeah, it's buck wild.

    8. JR

      Yeah. Well, you know what it is? It's Kill Tony. Kill Tony's, because Kill Tony's here, that show, it sets the standard because it's all just about being funny. And people realize, like, this idea that you're supposed to have, like, some sort of fucking social message in your comedy.

    9. RB

      Yeah. I also think-

    10. JR

      All I gotta do is be funny.

    11. RB

      ... it's just a lot of Cal- Californians and, and New Yorkers, uh, as well, 'cause like everybody started moving down here to, to be able to actually be on stage.

    12. JR

      Yeah.

    13. RB

      From New York or LA during COVID. And yeah, I feel like when they got here, they were like, "You know, be careful." But everybody from California and New York was just like, "No."

    14. JR

      Well, it depends on where you're from, you know. I mean, there's, there's pockets of, uh, people that are like enchanted by the wokeness in all, all sections of the country, you know. It depends. Like if you're coming from The Comedy Store, it's just about being funny. But if you're coming from some of the other clubs in LA, maybe it's not. Like, you may, there, y- it's just, it's Hollywood, man. It's like movies and TV. They're all run by executives and you have to think like they think or you don't get hired.

    15. RB

      Well, I think, uh, I think another reason that it got so buck wild though is because during COVID, if you were coming here, it's because you were already like, "Man, fuck the fucking-"

    16. JR

      Yeah.

    17. RB

      "... COVID rules." You know what I mean?

    18. JR

      Right.

    19. RB

      If you're really that safe person-

    20. JR

      Right.

    21. RB

      ... you're probably also that, like, woke comedian, so it, I feel like those people stayed back while everybody who was ready to get buck wild came down to buck wild town and got buck wild.

    22. JR

      (laughs) I think you, I think you nailed it. Yeah.

    23. RB

      Yeah.

    24. JR

      I think you nailed it 'cause the people that came here were like, "Fuck this." Like, "Fuck telling me that I can't do standup. Fuck telling me I can't go to a restaurant."

    25. RB

      Yeah.

    26. JR

      Especially when you go on the road and you realize that if you just live in LA and you never leave LA, you think the world is LA. And then you go to Nashville and you go, "Oh, they haven't lost their mind." But-

    27. RB

      Yeah.

    28. JR

      ... they didn't lose their mind in Nashville. They were normal. Like, you go to Dallas, they didn't lose their mind in Dallas. People kind of got a little freaked out for COVID for a couple of weeks and everybody sort of just settled in.

    29. RB

      Yeah.

    30. JR

      California never settled in, man. It never settled in. It's still there. I've been seeing people with masks on this week.

  3. 5:00 – 8:05

    Podcasts, clips, and work ethic: the new path to blowing up

    1. JR

      Like, everybody was freaking out just about change in the world, you know. Like, there was a lot of weird shit going on in the world and everybody had a higher level of anxiety. And to take a chance when you're young and you're coming up and everybody tells you LA is where you have to be. Are you a 27, 28-year-old comic? Oh my god, you gotta get to LA. That's what I always heard. You gotta get to LA. You gotta get to LA.

    2. RB

      Yeah.

    3. JR

      It's not the case anymore. That's not real anymore. The thing that helps you more than anything is podcasts. That's the thing that helps you more than anything.

    4. RB

      Yeah.

    5. JR

      Number one. Social media, podcasts, you know. Those are, like look how big you got so quick from a couple clips.

    6. RB

      Yeah.

    7. JR

      Just a couple clips. Like, you know it as well as anybody.

    8. RB

      Mm-hmm.

    9. JR

      If you've got good shit, now it gets out. Like, th- there is not a TV show in the world that would've done that for you.

    10. RB

      Mm-mm.

    11. JR

      You woulda had to be the star in the, like if you were living in the '90s, you'd have to be the star of some NBC sitcom to sell the kind of tickets you're selling right now just from clips online. It's beautiful. For, for comedians, it's the greatest thing that's ever happened.

    12. RB

      I feel like it, it's...... letting people decide who gets to blow up. You know what I mean? Like, e- e- e- I feel... I don't know what it used to be like, 'cause I wasn't there. But I feel like it used to be, the industry kind of decides when you get your break or not. Like, do they put you on this show or that movie?

    13. JR

      S- they sort of do, but standup was always at least partially been a meritocracy. You know, standup, the quality of your standup is the most important thing. When they're not, people are laughing. That's the most important. It's always been the most important thing. So, if someone is undeniable, they always come through.

    14. RB

      Yeah.

    15. JR

      There's... They always come through. But they also have to be a hard worker. You gotta actually put it... There's too many guys that are really good that just go to one club or they go... You know, they don't, they don't go on the road. There's too many guys that, like, they miss this window of opportunity where they could have been like real national headliners, and they just never developed a following out there in the world.

    16. RB

      Oh, I, I, I-

    17. JR

      They fucked up.

    18. RB

      ... uh, 100%. I know, I know a handful of comics, like back home or in New York or LA who I feel like are some of the funniest people in the world-

    19. JR

      Mm-hmm.

    20. RB

      ... and don't have a lick of work ethic.

    21. JR

      Yeah.

    22. RB

      So, the world will never know.

    23. JR

      Pfft. It's horrible. But, it's... Some of them, it's not the work ethic. Some of them get jobs, like in the business, like they're writers or, uh... Like Owen Smith, who is one of the top 20 standup comics alive. Owen Smith is a fucking killer. His shit is so tight, his c-... He's... It's... He's so smooth on stage. You look at him, you're like, "How is this guy not selling out arenas? How is this guy not selling out arenas?" It's 'cause Owen had... They're great jobs. He got a bunch of great jobs. Like he run, runs sitcoms and stuff, runs shows, he's a writer. But, goddamn, when you look at, like the quality of his standup, like, man, you should be everywhere. You should be everywhere.

    24. RB

      I mean, to each their own. If he's happy, he's happy, right? I don't know.

  4. 8:05 – 10:20

    Hollywood incentives, sitcom dreams, and the writers/actors strike wake-up call

    1. JR

      Yeah. I think he... Uh, the, the writers' strike probably freaked him out. I think the writers' strike and the actors' strike freaked a lot of those guys out. They're like, "Oh, shit." Like, 'cause if they just pulled a plug for five, six months in some sort of contract negotiations... Like some of those executives were literally saying, "Wait these people out. When they start losing their homes, then they'll come back to me."

    2. RB

      Yeah, I saw that. Yeah.

    3. JR

      Bro.

    4. RB

      That's some cutthroat shit.

    5. JR

      That's wild. Imagine if you gotta go to work with those people after that.

    6. RB

      I wouldn't-

    7. JR

      Imagine, you know that's how they feel about you.

    8. RB

      I couldn't do that. I couldn't... I, I mean-

    9. JR

      No, I could not.

    10. RB

      ... I already didn't go that route. And I don't know if I could ever go that route.

    11. JR

      You could have gone that route in the '90s.

    12. RB

      In the '90s?

    13. JR

      It was the only option, man.

    14. RB

      Oh.

    15. JR

      In the '90s, it was... When I first came to Hollywood in '94, that was what everybody wanted. You wanted what Jerry Seinfeld had, you wanted what Roseanne had. It was Brett Butler who was, uh... What was that show called again?

    16. NA

      Grace Under Fire.

    17. JR

      Grace Under Fire, that was a big show. Tim Allen. You wanted to be a comic that got a sitcom. That was the shit, dude.

    18. RB

      Fuck yeah.

    19. JR

      If you were a comic that got a sh- sitcom, now you got a house in Beverly Hills, you're fucking balling out of control, you're driving a Ferrari. Whoa, you made it. That's what everybody wanted. This was like the goal, right?

    20. RB

      That's... Yeah.

    21. JR

      And somewhere along the line, I think it was like the 2000s, reality shows came around.

    22. RB

      Everybody wanted a reality show?

    23. JR

      They're too ch-... They're so cheap to make.

    24. RB

      Mm-hmm.

    25. JR

      They're so cheap to make. And you don't... I mean, you have like... You barely pay the people that are on them. Like all those Real Housewives and shit, they're not like making millions of dollars, I don't think.

    26. RB

      Damn.

    27. JR

      You think they are?

    28. RB

      I don't know. I'd like-

    29. JR

      How much money they making?

    30. RB

      Now I'd like to know just so I can talk shit to them.

  5. 10:20 – 14:49

    Comments, hecklers, and staying sane online (plus a near-fight story)

    1. RB

      TV in general just kind of scares me, acting, writing. I don't know. I don't-

    2. JR

      You just, you're just so attached to, like, other people's opinions of you. (laughs) Like, you're constantly getting chosen for stuff.

    3. RB

      Yeah. I feel like even, even though I've never done that, I do, I do get tired of like comments. Like, I know they say never read the comments, but I read them.

    4. JR

      (laughs)

    5. RB

      But it'll be like the, the... Like, I can take a joke, I can take getting roasted, especially if it's people who follow me.

    6. JR

      Right.

    7. RB

      It kind of feels like, "Oh, well, I mean, they follow. It's some sort of support." It feels like you're getting roasted by like your cousin, like-

    8. JR

      Right.

    9. RB

      ... "Hey, he's still on my team, fuck it." But the ones that like piss me off, like, I don't know why they shouldn't, but they just throw me over there, it's like I want to fucking hit this guy in the face.

    10. JR

      (laughs)

    11. RB

      It's like, if I just left... Like, let's say I did Miami last month, and then I... Or like two weeks ago, and then I post like a flyer for next show's month, like next month's shows. And people are like, "What the fuck? You avoiding Miami?" I'm like, "Hey, dumbass, I was just there like two weeks ago. Like, when did you start following me, asshole?" Like, "Stop making me look like I don't show your city love."

    12. JR

      (laughs)

    13. RB

      Like...

    14. JR

      You can't pay attention to that. That's just someone who doesn't look at schedules.

    15. RB

      I hate it.

    16. JR

      Yeah, but that's like just-

    17. RB

      I hate it.

    18. JR

      He just... That's a crazy person. That's a lack of information.

    19. RB

      Yeah.

    20. JR

      Right.

    21. RB

      But I don't know why, I just bu-... I stopped checking social media. I'll check it like once throughout the day. And if, if I happen to catch your message or your comment, I catch it. If not, fuck it, like tomorrow.

    22. JR

      You know what it's like, man? It's like when you're out at like a, a party or a club or something like that, and, and someone yells across the room, "Yo, what's up, Ralph?"

    23. RB

      Uh, yeah.

    24. JR

      You know, and you go, "Hey, what's up, man?" He goes, "Dude, I'm a fan. What's up? How you doing?" Then he'll give you some love.

    25. RB

      That-

    26. JR

      But he's like checking you to see if you'll, like, react to him.

    27. RB

      Bro, if somebody-

    28. JR

      That's kind of like what they're doing in the comments.

    29. RB

      Somebody, uh-

    30. JR

      "What, you don't come to Miami?"

  6. 14:49 – 23:01

    Boxing as therapy, Wu-Tang playlists, and the road comic lifestyle

    1. RB

      I went to a boxing gym for a little bit, uh, earlier this year. I went for, like, two months.

    2. JR

      That'd be good for you.

    3. RB

      Yeah. I liked it. I wanna do something different, though.

    4. JR

      Boxing is the... one of the very best things ever for, uh, relieving, like, uh, tension. Like, if you're fucking tense, just like you got too much going on in your world, man, you just put on some good tunes. I have a Wu-Tang playlist-

    5. RB

      I bet.

    6. JR

      ... that I play when I hit the bag.

    7. RB

      I, I would, uh-

    8. JR

      Oh.

    9. RB

      I'd go, like, early, like, early in the morning for, like, private sessions.

    10. JR

      Mm-hmm.

    11. RB

      And, uh, that's when I would put on some Wu-Tang, some RZA.

    12. JR

      Mm-hmm.

    13. RB

      RZA specifically. He has that one song that, like, uh, You Can't Stop Me Now.

    14. JR

      Yeah.

    15. RB

      It's like a boxing classic.

    16. JR

      R- RZA's got so many jams. But for me, number one is Protect Ya Neck. That has to be on every playlist. And, uh, that's like we... when we would drive... (laughs) we would drive to the arena shows and we'd... sometimes we'd get a police escort, and there's something wild about cop cars with flashing lights and you listening to Protect Ya Neck. (laughs)

    17. RB

      Nice.

    18. JR

      (laughs)

    19. RB

      We, we've never had a... I've never had a police escort.

    20. JR

      Gravel pit's another one.

    21. RB

      But one time in a parking lot, I had a security guard escort.

    22. JR

      Ah.

    23. RB

      But they have, like, the yellow lights. Those aren't as threatening or as fun, the yellow lights.

    24. JR

      No, that's not as fun. You need blue lights.

    25. RB

      It was also like a, like a shopping center parking lot, so it wasn't...

    26. JR

      (laughs)

    27. RB

      It's not exactly an arena, but I don't know.

    28. JR

      Dude, some of the best comedy clubs ever are in those little shopping center mall places.

    29. RB

      Yeah.

    30. JR

      Little fucking clubs that you would never imagine were great, you know?

  7. 23:01 – 45:22

    Inside the Mothership: Mitzi’s bar, community culture, and building a talent pipeline

    1. JR

      Mitzi's is a fun place to be. After the shows.

    2. RB

      Where?

    3. JR

      Mitzi's, the bar downstairs at the Mothership.

    4. RB

      Oh, yeah.

    5. JR

      Tonight.

    6. RB

      I haven't tried-

    7. JR

      Tonight, after the shows, we're going downstairs.

    8. RB

      All right, all right.

    9. JR

      We're going. It's great. Whole staff's partying, just hanging out.

    10. RB

      Mitzi's.

    11. JR

      Yeah.

    12. RB

      Let's do it.

    13. JR

      It's a great vibe. It's a, a real, uh, great sense of community and home, you know? The, it's, it's a real, like, home base, you know? And that-

    14. RB

      You need home bases when you're on the road a lot, I feel.

    15. JR

      You do. Yeah, I think you do too.

    16. RB

      Keep you human.

    17. JR

      That's what we used to have at the Store. It was a home base. All these guys that would tour on the weekends, we'd all meet each other at the bar, at, at the bar downstairs. It was a comedians only bar. And it was this beautiful bar, and the, the bar itself was Mitzi's. It was from her home. And th- they moved it. When she moved out of her home, they moved it, and they put it, uh, in this one... So, you knew. It was like, "You're holding on to Mitzi's bar. This is hers." You know?

    18. RB

      Yeah.

    19. JR

      "This is her bar." Like, you feel her bar. When you put your hand down when you have a drink, you set it down on Mitzi's bar. There was something about that, man. And then, we were... You know, Ron White's back there, and fucking Dave Chappelle's back there. Dave brings his own music sometimes. It's crazy. It's beautiful.

    20. RB

      Oh, I fucking love that.

    21. JR

      Beautiful. Just a hang, man.

    22. RB

      Oh, yeah.

    23. JR

      And so, that's what we do at the Mothership.

    24. RB

      Dave has good music.

    25. JR

      He's always got the best mu-... I got, I always have Shazam on point when Dave's here.

    26. RB

      Yeah, yeah.

    27. JR

      I have it set up so, uh, I tap the back of my phone three times.... and Shazam pops up.

    28. RB

      And Shazam pops up?

    29. JR

      Yeah.

    30. RB

      I just have it on the little pull-down menu or whatever.

  8. 45:22 – 51:06

    Faith, skepticism, and ‘psychedelic Christianity’ rabbit holes

    1. RB

      You religious at all? Like, do you go to church or anything? You follow a religion?

    2. JR

      I, I'm not religious, but I'm not an atheist. People always say I'm an atheist. I'm not an atheist.

    3. RB

      I, I feel like I'm on something like that, you know. Uh, there's something going on out there, but, uh, I, I mean, I grew up like somewhat Catholic, like how most Mexican Catholics are. Like, maybe you don't go to church, but you do this thing all the time.

    4. JR

      Yeah.

    5. RB

      So like I still like, you know, like, but, yeah, there is, I don't know, man. I don't know what to believe. I do want to have a religion. I'm not gonna lie, but sometimes I don't.

    6. JR

      It'd be nice if there was a good one, one you could like really lock into, like, "Man, you guys are making sense."

    7. RB

      Well, I just like that people really like lock into something, and like, I don't know, man. I wanna, I wanna like defend something. I wanna be like, "You don't speak that way about Allah."

    8. JR

      Right.

    9. RB

      But-

    10. JR

      It's a nice gang to be a part of.

    11. RB

      Right?

    12. JR

      Very aggressive gang.

    13. RB

      But I also feel like the gang I belong to, whether I like it or not, is like the comedy world.

    14. JR

      Yeah.

    15. RB

      Just make fun of everything.

    16. JR

      Yeah. That's our gang. But I think religion helps a lot of people, and I don't necessarily think it's-

    17. RB

      Oh, yeah.

    18. JR

      I, I think it came from somewhere, and I think there's, there's like real wisdom to these stories that people wrote down thousands of years ago. But there's a lot of problems in the translations, too, 'cause they're translating shit from, uh, like the... Here's a good example. The Dead Sea Scrolls is the oldest version of the Bible that they're aware of, and it's from, uh, Qumran. It's these, uh, it's this, the, they had these like, these caves, and they found these big pottery vessels with scrolls in them. And these scrolls, uh, they're all made of, uh, animal skins. Like that's how old they are.

    19. RB

      Oh, shit.

    20. JR

      That was their paper. They wrote on animal skins. And the, one of the ways that they figured out, they had to put it all together again, and a lot of it was crumpled and falling apart. And so they had to do DNA testing so that they could figure out, okay, this sample, these samples are all from this cow, and so we'll put these here. And it took, it took them fucking years and years and years to do this. And out of, after 14 years of deciphering it, there was this one guy, his name is John Marco Allegro, and he was, uh, uh, he was a p- an ordained minister, but he was also agnostic because when he studied theology, the more he started studying it, the more he's like, "Wait a minute, what the fuck is, how come this is so much different than this? And what's the origins of these words, and where does this all come from?" So this guy studies this Dead Sea Scrolls for 14 years, and then he writes a book called The Sacred Mushroom and the Cross, and he said that the whole Christian religion was really about psychedelic mushrooms and fertility rituals, that these people had hidden all of these stories in these allegories and in these tales. They'd hidden all this information on what to do and when to do it. And that all, like it's a very, very controversial book, but that all of the, like even-

    21. RB

      You think they got it at Barnes & Nobles?

    22. JR

      I think you could probably get it now. I know-

    23. RB

      Yeah.

    24. JR

      ... it got, yeah, it got republished. It, it was, I think it was bought out by the Catholic Church for a long time, and then-

    25. RB

      Wow. I didn't know the Catholic Church was buying out books, like fucking-

    26. JR

      They didn't want this one out.

    27. RB

      ... some Wolf of Wall Street shit.

    28. JR

      I don't know if that's true. I need to find out if that's true 'cause I've said it before, 'cause someone told it to me.

    29. RB

      Dude, you say it with enough confidence it's true.

    30. JR

      Yeah, if you say it with enough confidence you could get people who will-

  9. 51:06 – 59:32

    A heavy mushroom trip, ‘God is mad,’ and the whiplash of sudden success

    1. RB

      I'll tell you this, though, on the whole Christian psychedelic trip shit. One time, I ate like nine, 10 grams of shrooms. And I swear to God, the ceiling, there was a face in it. And I s- like for some reason, in my mind, I was like, "That's God." And he was fucking pissed. And then I-

    2. JR

      He's pissed?

    3. RB

      Yeah.

    4. JR

      At you?

    5. RB

      Yeah.

    6. JR

      For what?

    7. RB

      For... I don't know.

    8. JR

      (laughs)

    9. RB

      I think it's just 'cause on the inside, I'm always... Like I've never done mushrooms out in the, like during the day. I know some people are like, "Yeah, man, do mushrooms. Go to a park." Nah. Uh-uh. 'Cause I do believe there's, like, God out there, some sort of God. And I don't think he's necessarily like, um, like the good guy on the TV show. I think he's God. You know what I mean? You ever had, like, a boss, like at a, like at a place?

    10. JR

      Right.

    11. RB

      And maybe he's not exactly fair, maybe he's not exactly nice, but he's the fucking boss. And when he says, "Go." And I feel like maybe that's what God is, you know? For better or worse. And I feel like if I do mushrooms out in the open, he's gonna be, like, mad. So I do them at night.

    12. JR

      (laughs)

    13. RB

      I usually do them in my hotel rooms. I'll do research on hotels that have, like, artwork and stuff. Like Hotel Indigo's (blows raspberries) great place to trip.

    14. JR

      (laughs)

    15. RB

      Especially the one in Houston. If I go to Houston, I'm staying at the Hotel Indigo.

    16. JR

      Uh...

    17. RB

      But yeah, the ceiling, man. Oh, I was tripping so hard. And the face came out, and it looked like it, like it looked like a hand and then like an elbow, and then I felt like he was putting his elbow on my neck.

    18. JR

      Whoa.

    19. RB

      And I couldn't breathe. I started trying to breathe real hard like (gasps) . And my buddy was like, having a nice trip. He was just like, "That's right, man, breathe." I was like, "No, dumbass. Like, I can't breathe." Like... (laughs)

    20. JR

      'Cause God's choking you.

    21. RB

      Yeah, God was like putting the pressure down on my neck. But I feel like that was-

    22. JR

      Hmm.

    23. RB

      That was maybe in my mind.

    24. JR

      Well, it's definitely in your mind.

    25. RB

      Yeah, you know, like, just feeling pressure's in general.

    26. JR

      Right. Right.

    27. RB

      And wondering if I'm doing the right thing or not.

    28. JR

      Yeah. Well, a lot of changes have happened really quickly with you. You know, Brian Simpson was telling me that you were gonna open for him one weekend, and you-

    29. RB

      In January of 2022, I think.

    30. JR

      ... couldn't do it. And then you blew up, and then he called you, and you're like, "Bro, I'm headlining on all these clubs now."

  10. 59:32 – 1:08:49

    Living in the country, family history, and building a home with a car-painting shop

    1. RB

      Yeah. I feel that. I live, uh, I live out in the country right now.

    2. JR

      Oh, do you?

    3. RB

      Yeah, I live out ... Like a hour south of Dallas.

    4. JR

      Oh, that's great.

    5. RB

      Uh, my dad lives out there. He bought land when he was like 20 there, like a little trailer home, and he always kept it. He'd move around a lot 'cause, you know, he was an unstable guy, just up and down, whatever. But he always kept that land, and once he became more of like a family man, 'cause, you know, he's married to my stepmom, I have younger siblings, he like, you know, made sure that they lived there. He got out of prison like 2019 and he went back to like painting cars, working on cars, started saving money, started doing like contractor jobs, started his own business. Now he does like pretty big business, contract-type work with a couple other guys that have their own business. And he like built his dream house-

    6. JR

      Oh, nice.

    7. RB

      ... on that land. No more trailer home. He gave the trailer home to my cousin and they moved it like further back on the next piece of land so, you know, now he has to like start his own little journey or whatever.

    8. JR

      Nice.

    9. RB

      But he built that, uh, he built that house and it's nice, man. I started building a house on that land as well before my cousin's house so I could like outshine my cousin's house.

    10. JR

      (laughs)

    11. RB

      But it's not done. But my house is purely ... Like, I'm not even looking forward to ... I'm not even trying too much right now to like actually build a house and be like, "This is how I want my kitchen and living room." Not even worried about it. The h- Where I'm ... The living compartment is on the upstairs. I'm worried about the downstairs, 'cause that's gonna be like my shop. I used to paint cars and I wanna, I wanna do that in my free time again.

    12. JR

      What kind of painting?

    13. RB

      ... like, uh, I was, I was still very much, like-

    14. JR

      Like artistic painting, you mean?

    15. RB

      No, like, you know, paint the cars, like-

    16. JR

      Right.

    17. RB

      ... paint them blue, paint them red, you know.

    18. JR

      Oh, just painting cars.

    19. RB

      Yeah.

    20. JR

      Painting cars.

    21. RB

      Detailing them afterwards, you know?

    22. JR

      Oh, okay.

    23. RB

      Uh, I always wanted to paint candy, but you need a lot of experience. A lot of people don't know, when you're painting candy, you can't just do the quarter panel and then move to the door.

    24. JR

      What do-

    25. RB

      You gotta do, like, the whole sur-

    26. JR

      What do you mean by candy?

    27. RB

      Like, you know, candy paint, like real, real glittery, real pretty-ass paint.

    28. JR

      Oh, is that what it's called?

    29. RB

      Yeah, yeah.

    30. JR

      All right.

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