Joe Rogan Experience #2068 - Cameron Hanes

1. 0:00 – 1:48

   Stem cell recovery rules, podcast gear, and the early JRE vibe

   1. NANarrator0:00

      (drumbeats) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out.

   2. The Joe Rogan Experience.

   3. JRJoe Rogan0:06

      Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. (rock music plays) What's up, Joe hands? You all juiced up with stem cells, you feel any different?

   4. CHCameron Hanes0:17

      (sighs) Are we live yet?

   5. JRJoe Rogan0:19

      (laughs) Yeah, we're live.

   6. CHCameron Hanes0:20

      Oh, we are?

   7. JRJoe Rogan0:21

      Yeah.

   8. CHCameron Hanes0:21

      Oh, yeah, I feel... I don't know, you said I can't do anything for a few days, though.

   9. JRJoe Rogan0:26

      Yeah. You gotta- you- you really should be taking time off. Like we were talking about how Shane Dorian went down to Tijuana and he got, like, this full body stem cell treatment, they injected his discs and they did all this jazz, and they told him, "Don't do anything for eight weeks."

   10. CHCameron Hanes0:39

       Yeah.

   11. JRJoe Rogan0:39

       You, like, walk, but, you know-

   12. CHCameron Hanes0:41

       I can't do that.

   13. JRJoe Rogan0:41

       ... just let it heal. Let it heal.

   14. CHCameron Hanes0:44

       Eight weeks?

   15. JRJoe Rogan0:45

       (sings) I know it's hard.

   16. CHCameron Hanes0:47

       Hey, could I get a little more volume?

   17. JRJoe Rogan0:49

       Oh, you can turn it right there.

   18. CHCameron Hanes0:50

       Oh, wait.

   19. JRJoe Rogan0:50

       Yeah, on that little thing.

   20. CHCameron Hanes0:51

       Oh, here?

   21. JRJoe Rogan0:51

       Yeah. We're like a radio station now. We got, like, real equipment.

   22. CHCameron Hanes0:55

       Okay.

   23. JRJoe Rogan0:56

       You got a cough button too-

   24. CHCameron Hanes0:57

       I do, yeah.

   25. JRJoe Rogan0:57

       ... if you have to cough.

   26. CHCameron Hanes0:59

       (coughs)

   27. JRJoe Rogan0:59

       See?

   28. CHCameron Hanes1:00

       (laughs)

   29. JRJoe Rogan1:00

       Pretty cool.

   30. CHCameron Hanes1:01

       That's pretty s- see, I don't have this. See, I'm bare bones. I'm like, you know, Mattel version podcast, you're like the hype-
2. 1:48 – 3:51

   Crypto skepticism: FTX fallout, sponsorship offers, and why Joe stayed away

   1. JRJoe Rogan1:48

      But he's a, like, super nerd. He's into all that crypto shit. I just, ugh, it's too much for me.

   2. CHCameron Hanes1:55

      I like bow hunting, that's all.

   3. JRJoe Rogan1:56

      Yeah. I don't have time.

   4. CHCameron Hanes1:56

      That's all I'm into.

   5. JRJoe Rogan1:57

      I don't have time for this crypto stuff.

   6. CHCameron Hanes1:59

      Right.

   7. JRJoe Rogan2:00

      I- I- I believe in it, I think it's- it holds promise. Every now and then one of those FTX things happens where everybody loses billions and I'm like, "Yes."

   8. CHCameron Hanes2:07

      Yes.

   9. JRJoe Rogan2:08

      "Exactly."

   10. CHCameron Hanes2:08

       See?

   11. JRJoe Rogan2:09

       "That's why I didn't get involved in any of that shit."

   12. CHCameron Hanes2:11

       Right.

   13. JRJoe Rogan2:11

       There was a few of those companies that tried to get me involved in sponsors-

   14. CHCameron Hanes2:14

       Mm-hmm.

   15. JRJoe Rogan2:14

       ... and stuff like that, and do ads, and I was like, "What are you doing? What is this? Coins?"

   16. CHCameron Hanes2:19

       And also those- what about those card things?

   17. JRJoe Rogan2:22

       Oh, uh, you mean an NFT?

   18. CHCameron Hanes2:25

       Yeah.

   19. JRJoe Rogan2:26

       Yeah, see that is not real, or I- I guess it's sort of an NFT, but that's really just an art gift from-

   20. CHCameron Hanes2:31

       Oh.

   21. JRJoe Rogan2:31

       ... this guy Beeple. And Beeple, who is this, uh, really cool artist who puts up a new piece of art every day.

   22. CHCameron Hanes2:37

       Oh.

   23. JRJoe Rogan2:37

       365 days a year he does stuff like that. And it's all- have you ever seen his stuff?

   24. CHCameron Hanes2:42

       I think maybe. But-

   25. JRJoe Rogan2:43

       Pull up- pull up Beeple's Instagram, it's wild, wild shit.

   26. CHCameron Hanes2:46

       Yeah, I'll have a look.

   27. JRJoe Rogan2:47

       But he actually has a gallery, and in his gallery he has things like this, but enormous ones.

   28. CHCameron Hanes2:52

       Mm-hmm.

   29. JRJoe Rogan2:52

       Like big giant things that he's made-

   30. CHCameron Hanes2:55

       Mm-hmm.
3. 3:51 – 11:13

   NFTs: Beeple vs. Bored Apes and the “what do you actually own?” debate

   1. JRJoe Rogan3:51

      So, that I understand. That is digital art. I understand that.

   2. CHCameron Hanes3:55

      Mm-hmm.

   3. JRJoe Rogan3:55

      But there's a lot of the NFTs, like the Bored Ape Yacht Club.

   4. CHCameron Hanes3:59

      Yeah.

   5. JRJoe Rogan3:59

      I was like, "What is a, what is a, what?"

   6. CHCameron Hanes4:01

      Yeah. A- for a while there it seemed like everybody was making, like, millions. I'm like, "So, what- what do I gotta do here?"

   7. JRJoe Rogan4:07

      (laughs)

   8. CHCameron Hanes4:08

      (laughs) And so, can I make a hunting photo in NFT and just make a bunch of money, or how does this work?

   9. JRJoe Rogan4:12

      I think a lot of people thought that at first.

   10. CHCameron Hanes4:15

       Mm-hmm.

   11. JRJoe Rogan4:15

       And maybe if you hopped on the bandwagon at the very beginning before everybody kind of woke up... There's no s- there's no there there. Right? So, like, here's the thing. Like, people are like, "Well, it's yours and you own it and nobody can give..." Yeah, but I could take a screenshot of it, and I have it on my phone.

   12. CHCameron Hanes4:29

       Yeah. It's weird.

   13. JRJoe Rogan4:30

       And where are you gonna look at it other than your phone? Like, I literally have what someone paid a million dollars for if I wanted to get a screenshot of it.

   14. CHCameron Hanes4:38

       Yeah.

   15. JRJoe Rogan4:38

       I could get that-

   16. CHCameron Hanes4:39

       I don't get it.

   17. JRJoe Rogan4:39

       ... and then it's on my phone.

   18. CHCameron Hanes4:41

       I don't get it.

   19. JRJoe Rogan4:41

       It's not even a different resolution.

   20. CHCameron Hanes4:43

       Hmm.

   21. JRJoe Rogan4:43

       Like, what? "Oh, but it's- but it's not in your crypto wallet." Okay.

   22. CHCameron Hanes4:47

       (laughs)

   23. JRJoe Rogan4:47

       I guess you win.

   24. NANarrator4:48

       I love this argument, it's fun.

   25. JRJoe Rogan4:50

       (laughs)

   26. NANarrator4:50

       But, like, that's the same, like... You have a screenshot of the Mona Lisa on your phone, you don't own the Mona Lisa. That's, like, that's where that argument comes.

   27. JRJoe Rogan4:55

       No, no, no, no, no, it's very different because the Mona Lisa is a physical painting made by a master artist that's in a frame, and you could look at it and you could ponder the thought behind it, the artistic expression, the technique in brushstrokes and painting. This guy from-

   28. NANarrator5:11

       What's-

   29. JRJoe Rogan5:11

       ... hundreds and hundreds of years ago-

   30. NANarrator5:13

       Yeah.
4. 11:13 – 17:57

   UFO whistleblower theories and the ‘useful idiot’ possibility

   1. JRJoe Rogan11:13

      Yeah, he's looked into it the most. So you were saying that you're on the fence, off the fence about Grusch.

   2. NANarrator11:18

      Yeah, the- the story I was hearing is it's just- it's uh- it's a lot. I- with- I'm gonna skip a lot of it, but what I was reading and slash what they were saying, is that one possibility that could be going on is there is in... Uh, I think we're taking in some Graham Hancock stuff too. If- if people were around on earth 500,000 years ago-

   3. JRJoe Rogan11:38

      Mm-hmm.

   4. NANarrator11:38

      ... in some way there was some split and a second set of humans continued on. And we're like in this interdimension space where they're both happening simultaneously. And that's where like if-

   5. JRJoe Rogan11:51

      He was saying this?

   6. NANarrator11:52

      No, no, no, no, uh, this is from the- I'm gathering this all from like that video. I'm adding in some of Graham Hancock's stuff too 'cause this kid had also interviewed him. Jesse Michaels on his- on his podcast.

   7. JRJoe Rogan12:01

      Okay.

   8. NANarrator12:01

      And they were talking about some of the same stuff. But something they said in the Grusch interview on his podcast was that, uh, an idea would be that these people exist on a- on like a split.

   9. GUGuest12:13

      ... uh, timeline from us. Like, we had cataclysms and died, and repopulated and whatnot, and now we've ended in this place in 2023 with combustion engines and we're flying around. These people would have been in a different anti-gravity. Who knows what they figured out.

   10. JRJoe Rogan12:27

       And they went somewhere else?

   11. GUGuest12:29

       I think... I don't... Th- they're not even saying that. This is where, like, they're not gonna talk a- I don't... They haven't talked about that, but I think what they're saying or getting, or getting at maybe is that they're here, and that's why the nuclear thing is so, um, uh, important to them. They're on the same planet as us, and if we blow up the planet, it goes away for them too.

   12. JRJoe Rogan12:47

       So they're here, we just don't know where they are?

   13. GUGuest12:49

       And that's where the interdimension thing comes in. I, I... That's what I'm gathering out of what I've heard for-

   14. JRJoe Rogan12:53

       How high were you when you came up with this theory? (laughs)

   15. GUGuest12:55

       It's not a... I don't think I'm saying it's my theory. This is what they're sorta saying.

   16. JRJoe Rogan12:58

       I understand.

   17. GUGuest12:58

       And Grusch is sort of like, "That's an interesting thing you're saying."

   18. JRJoe Rogan13:01

       Mm.

   19. GUGuest13:02

       He's not confirming it with them or anything, but-

   20. JRJoe Rogan13:04

       Mm.

   21. GUGuest13:04

       ... it was a... It's a lot to take in. That's definitely for sure.

   22. JRJoe Rogan13:07

       Nyeah, it's all a lot to take in. We... D- David Grusch is that UFO whistleblower-

   23. GUGuest13:11

       Mm-hmm.

   24. JRJoe Rogan13:11

       ... that testified in front of Congress? It's hard to say, man. He- the thing about it is, I believe he's telling the truth as far as what he's experienced and the documents that he uncovered and the people that he talked to. But, how do you know whether or not they're just using him as a useful idiot to just get out some silly story-

   25. GUGuest13:31

       Mm-hmm.

   26. JRJoe Rogan13:32

       ... because they're covering up for the fact that there's some very advanced drone system that the United States government has they're trying to keep under wraps? It might be both.

   27. GUGuest13:40

       Tough to know.

   28. JRJoe Rogan13:41

       It g- I, I think it's probably both things. You... Well, here's the thing.

   29. GUGuest13:45

       Hm.

   30. JRJoe Rogan13:46

       You're out in the woods all the time.
5. 17:57 – 27:54

   Health optimization over ‘normal’: stem cells, peptides, and distrust in conventional medicine

   1. GUGuest17:57

      Yeah. I'd like... So, but some housekeeping real quick. Thank you for getting me down here for the stem cells.

   2. JRJoe Rogan18:04

      My pleasure.

   3. GUGuest18:05

      So Ways2Well.

   4. JRJoe Rogan18:06

      Shout out to Ways2Well.

   5. GUGuest18:07

      Yeah. That's, that's good, and I'd (clears throat) , I think, uh, I, I like that, um, you know, I had Bloke's is kinda coming on too. They offer the same th- Wa- Ways2Well offers the same thing, but it seems like those type of...

   6. CHCameron Hanes18:20

      ... outfits are really gonna gain popularity because of the distrust in the medical-

   7. JRJoe Rogan18:25

      Yes.

   8. CHCameron Hanes18:25

      ... whatever, like your- your regular doctor that was telling you, "Oh, yeah, you gotta get this vaccine," this and that. And now it's, you know, obviously there's distrust there. So I think people are thinking, "Do I need a doctor? What, do I n- what's a doctor for? Just pushing prescriptions on me?" So now they can kinda take their health into their own hands, get their blood panels done, see where they are, um, you know, on a bunch of different markers. And that's what Ways2Well and Blokes does, and I think a lot of people are gonna be doing that instead of calling their- their bler- right family doctor.

   9. JRJoe Rogan18:58

      Well, a lot of family doctors, unfortunately, just don't have that knowledge base. They don't understand peptides.

   10. CHCameron Hanes19:04

       Yeah.

   11. JRJoe Rogan19:04

       They'll tell you not to take things, and they don't have any knowledge of it themselves, and you talk to them and they have a potbelly. You know, "Well, you don't need any vitamins."

   12. CHCameron Hanes19:10

       Mm-hmm.

   13. JRJoe Rogan19:10

       "Or you can get everything you want from a balanced diet," while they're eating cheeseburgers. So like, it's like-

   14. CHCameron Hanes19:14

       Well... And they do that, your, like, your markers, and they're saying, "Well this is..." Say, with test, they'll say, "Well your testosterone is within-"

   15. JRJoe Rogan19:22

       A normal range.

   16. CHCameron Hanes19:23

       ... normal range, yeah, normal compared to another fucking normal guy- (laughs)

   17. JRJoe Rogan19:26

       (laughs)

   18. CHCameron Hanes19:26

       You see the normal American these days?

   19. JRJoe Rogan19:28

       Yeah.

   20. CHCameron Hanes19:28

       I don't wanna be anywhere near that guy.

   21. JRJoe Rogan19:30

       Right.

   22. CHCameron Hanes19:31

       I wanna be m- like my own category. So-

   23. JRJoe Rogan19:34

       Optimized.

   24. CHCameron Hanes19:34

       Yeah, so yeah.

   25. JRJoe Rogan19:35

       Yeah.

   26. CHCameron Hanes19:36

       Optimized, um, built for performance.

   27. JRJoe Rogan19:39

       Mm-hmm.

   28. CHCameron Hanes19:39

       You know, get your body at the highest level, not compared to the average American.

   29. JRJoe Rogan19:43

       Right.

   30. CHCameron Hanes19:43

       So that's where... I don't know.
6. 27:54 – 42:45

   UFC talk: upcoming cards, short-notice risks, and champions’ wear-and-tear

   1. CHCameron Hanes27:54

      What's, uh, next big fight?

   2. JRJoe Rogan27:57

      Well, there's a nice card this, uh, next weekend in Austin that we're gonna go see.

   3. CHCameron Hanes28:02

      Mm-hmm.

   4. JRJoe Rogan28:02

      Pumped about that. That should be fun. But then the big one is Colby versus, um, uh-

   5. CHCameron Hanes28:08

      Leon.

   6. JRJoe Rogan28:09

      ... Leon Edwards in Vegas. So for the welterweight title.

   7. CHCameron Hanes28:12

      Hear about that.

   8. JRJoe Rogan28:12

      And that's, that's a couple weeks from now, but that's a big one. That's a big one. That one's big. That one's exciting. Ooh, that's a good one. What else is that card? Pull up that card, Jamie.

   9. CHCameron Hanes28:22

      Tony.

   10. JRJoe Rogan28:23

       Oh, that's right, Tony and Paddy Pimblett. Tony's training with David Goggins, which is crazy.

   11. CHCameron Hanes28:27

       (laughs) I know.

   12. JRJoe Rogan28:27

       Oh, Pantoja versus Brandon Royval for the flyweight, uh, world title. And Shavkat Rakhmonov-

   13. CHCameron Hanes28:34

       Oh.

   14. JRJoe Rogan28:34

       ... versus, uh, Wonderboy. Woo!

   15. CHCameron Hanes28:36

       That's gonna be a good one.

   16. JRJoe Rogan28:37

       And Vicente Luque versus Ian Garry. Woo! Those are good fights.

   17. CHCameron Hanes28:41

       Yeah.

   18. JRJoe Rogan28:42

       That's a good fight. I'm very interested to see Tony after he's been training with David Goggins. There's a lot of, like, very mixed reviews about whether or not that would be a good thing or a bad thing for him.

   19. CHCameron Hanes28:53

       Yeah, I see ... I, I read a bunch of those comments.

   20. JRJoe Rogan28:57

       Yeah, it's interesting.

   21. CHCameron Hanes28:58

       Mm-hmm.

   22. JRJoe Rogan28:58

       It's like ... Who else is on it? Oh, Josh Emmett's on that fight against Giga ... Oh, Giga Chikadze's on that fight too.

   23. CHCameron Hanes29:05

       Look, look at this card.

   24. JRJoe Rogan29:06

       Cody Garbrandt and Brian Kelleher. Oh, shit.

   25. CHCameron Hanes29:10

       This is all on the ... Oh-

   26. JRJoe Rogan29:11

       Dustin Jacoby and Alonzo Menifield. Wow, these are, these are good fucking cards, son.

   27. CHCameron Hanes29:16

       Yeah, it is.

   28. JRJoe Rogan29:16

       This is a good card. Holy shit.

   29. CHCameron Hanes29:19

       Yeah.

   30. JRJoe Rogan29:20

       Go all the way back down there again please. That card is fucking stacked.
7. 42:45 – 46:40

   David Goggins’ broken-knee grit and what ‘mind over pain’ really looks like

   1. JRJoe Rogan42:45

      The fucking guy's in pain walking, you know? It's like Goggins.

   2. CHCameron Hanes42:49

      Yeah.

   3. JRJoe Rogan42:49

      Like people know now because we talked about it, Goggins just got another fucking knee surgery.

   4. CHCameron Hanes42:54

      Yeah. (laughs)

   5. JRJoe Rogan42:55

      I mean, his knees-

   6. CHCameron Hanes42:56

      After Tony or before Tony?

   7. JRJoe Rogan42:57

      Before Tony.

   8. CHCameron Hanes42:58

      Yeah.

   9. JRJoe Rogan42:58

      His knees are destroyed. They're destroyed. They, it's bone on bone.

   10. CHCameron Hanes43:02

       Mm-hmm.

   11. JRJoe Rogan43:02

       There's nothing going on there other than two bones banging into each other, and he's running thousands of miles. The doctor looked at David's knees and he said, "I don't understand how you can walk-"

   12. CHCameron Hanes43:13

       Yeah.

   13. JRJoe Rogan43:13

       "... nevermind run 1,000 miles."

   14. CHCameron Hanes43:15

       Right.

   15. JRJoe Rogan43:15

       Like how the fuck are you doing this? And it's just the mind.

   16. CHCameron Hanes43:18

       Yeah. He-

   17. JRJoe Rogan43:18

       And that's the same thing with Kamaru.

   18. CHCameron Hanes43:20

       Another level. Mm-hmm.

   19. JRJoe Rogan43:20

       Kamaru just, he just like puts that shit aside.

   20. CHCameron Hanes43:24

       How do you think that... What do you think about Tony training with David? What do you think he's gonna do?

   21. JRJoe Rogan43:30

       I don't know. I don't know 'cause we've never seen anybody train with David before.

   22. CHCameron Hanes43:33

       Yeah.

   23. JRJoe Rogan43:34

       You know, like you could say on one, on one hand, look, clearly when the two of them are training together, Dave is not struggling at all.

   24. CHCameron Hanes43:42

       Mm-hmm.

   25. JRJoe Rogan43:42

       And Tony is struggling. So there is definitely some ground to gain when it comes to endurance.

   26. CHCameron Hanes43:48

       Yeah. Yeah.

   27. JRJoe Rogan43:49

       Or endurance-

   28. CHCameron Hanes43:49

       And mental strength.

   29. JRJoe Rogan43:50

       Yes.

   30. CHCameron Hanes43:51

       Yeah.
8. 46:40 – 51:06

   Joe’s comedian boot camp and functional strength: windmills, Turkish get-ups, and ‘base building’

   1. JRJoe Rogan46:40

      Well, most people, they don't understand what it's like to really test yourself and to really do something as difficult all the time. I'm doing this thing now (clears throat) where I'm, I'm running this boot camp for comedians.

   2. CHCameron Hanes46:53

      Yeah, I've heard of you-

   3. JRJoe Rogan46:54

      Yeah.

   4. CHCameron Hanes46:54

      ... talk about it.

   5. JRJoe Rogan46:54

      So I did it today.

   6. CHCameron Hanes46:55

      Yeah.

   7. JRJoe Rogan46:56

      And so Derek Poston just joined today. Shout out to my man Derek. So Hasaan Ahmad, Derek, Brian Simpson, um, Duncan Trussell when he's in town, he wasn't in town today, and Shane Gillis. And we get after it.

   8. CHCameron Hanes47:08

      Mm-hmm.

   9. JRJoe Rogan47:09

      These guys are getting after it.

   10. CHCameron Hanes47:10

       That's awesome.

   11. JRJoe Rogan47:10

       And they start every day with 100 push-ups, 100 body weight squats. We do five sets. And I tell them, "You can't do 100, don't do 100. You could do five push-ups in a row and you're struggling, stop at five."

   12. CHCameron Hanes47:21

       Yeah.

   13. JRJoe Rogan47:21

       The whole, I'm trying to build a base.

   14. CHCameron Hanes47:22

       Right.

   15. JRJoe Rogan47:23

       So I said, "I don't want you to kill yourself. The whole idea here is we're just building a base, and we're gonna keep going on." And they've been doing it consistently through, this week it was four times a week.

   16. CHCameron Hanes47:32

       For how long?

   17. JRJoe Rogan47:32

       We did it four times this week. Uh, when we were with The Rock, we worked out for three hours. We did two hours of working out.

   18. CHCameron Hanes47:36

       No, but when did you start this, the boot camp? How long ago?

   19. JRJoe Rogan47:39

       Uh, four weeks. Four weeks now.

   20. CHCameron Hanes47:39

       Okay.

   21. JRJoe Rogan47:40

       So they're four weeks in.

   22. CHCameron Hanes47:41

       Yeah, nice.

   23. JRJoe Rogan47:42

       And we're very consistent.

   24. CHCameron Hanes47:42

       They should be seeing results then.

   25. JRJoe Rogan47:43

       They're seeing results.

   26. CHCameron Hanes47:44

       Yeah.

   27. JRJoe Rogan47:45

       But they're seeing results in how they feel, like almost immediately.

   28. CHCameron Hanes47:48

       Oh, I bet. Bet.

   29. JRJoe Rogan47:48

       Because I'm not killing them. I'm not killing them, but when The Rock was here, I killed them.

   30. CHCameron Hanes47:51

       Yeah.
9. 51:06 – 1:05:27

   Social media ‘freak’ strength: Tom Haviland, Sam Sulek, steroids, and the cost of being massive

   1. CHCameron Hanes51:06

      No.

   2. JRJoe Rogan51:06

      Okay.

   3. CHCameron Hanes51:07

      Who's that?

   4. JRJoe Rogan51:07

      This guy's a real weirdo. He's a freak that lives in Australia.

   5. CHCameron Hanes51:13

      Oh.

   6. JRJoe Rogan51:13

      And he does these insane workouts and he puts them on Instagram. Go to his Instagram. And he wears like fucking flannel shirts and jeans and shit.

   7. CHCameron Hanes51:23

      Private now.

   8. JRJoe Rogan51:24

      Private now?

   9. CHCameron Hanes51:24

      I think.

   10. JRJoe Rogan51:24

       Is it?

   11. CHCameron Hanes51:24

       I don't know why. I mean ...

   12. JRJoe Rogan51:25

       Join it.

   13. CHCameron Hanes51:26

       Well, it's 'cause I can't get access to it until he approves it.

   14. JRJoe Rogan51:28

       Oh, shit. Hmm.

   15. CHCameron Hanes51:32

       Hmm.

   16. JRJoe Rogan51:33

       Why is he private, Tom?

   17. CHCameron Hanes51:34

       I'll find out.

   18. JRJoe Rogan51:35

       I think because he doesn't want to be bothered, 'cause all he does is ... This guy's out in the outback fucking lifting homemade weights.

   19. CHCameron Hanes51:42

       (laughs)

   20. JRJoe Rogan51:42

       He's six foot five, I think, and he's 300 pounds.

   21. CHCameron Hanes51:47

       God.

   22. JRJoe Rogan51:47

       And ju- just gigantic.

   23. CHCameron Hanes51:51

       (laughs) I want to see it.

   24. JRJoe Rogan51:52

       And the workouts that he got.

   25. CHCameron Hanes51:53

       Holy shit.

   26. JRJoe Rogan51:54

       And the fucking workouts that this guy does-

   27. CHCameron Hanes51:57

       Oh my God.

   28. JRJoe Rogan51:57

       ... there's not a goddamn chance in hell he passed a piss test.

   29. CHCameron Hanes52:00

       (laughs)

   30. JRJoe Rogan52:00

       I bet his piss melts Styrofoam.
10. 1:05:27 – 1:19:28

    Back to bowhunting tech: new Hoyt bows, broadheads, arrows, lighted nocks, and rangefinding trust

    1. CHCameron Hanes1:05:27

       Have you, have you shot your new bow yet?

    2. JRJoe Rogan1:05:30

       I have not. No.

    3. CHCameron Hanes1:05:32

       Your Alpha X?

    4. JRJoe Rogan1:05:33

       No, I've been too busy.

    5. CHCameron Hanes1:05:34

       What-

    6. JRJoe Rogan1:05:34

       Unfortunately. I'm suppo- I was suppo- I was gonna take it today, but obviously I had some stuff we had to do today.

    7. CHCameron Hanes1:05:40

       Mm-hmm. Yeah.

    8. JRJoe Rogan1:05:40

       But I'm gonna take it on Monday, go down to-

    9. CHCameron Hanes1:05:42

       It's a good bow.

    10. JRJoe Rogan1:05:43

        ... Archery Country. Yeah, I'm very excited. Look, if it's better than last year's... Last year's models were better than the year before, which I don't know how they keep doing that.

    11. CHCameron Hanes1:05:50

        I don't either.

    12. JRJoe Rogan1:05:50

        But Hoyt keeps making better bows every year.

    13. CHCameron Hanes1:05:53

        Mm-hmm.

    14. JRJoe Rogan1:05:53

        They're just smoother and more accurate. Like, I shot my, um... Not this, this past year's bow, but the year before, I shot it one day just for goof. I said, "Let me just pick up my old bow-

    15. CHCameron Hanes1:06:06

        Yeah.

    16. JRJoe Rogan1:06:06

        ... and see how that shoots." It wasn't out of tune. It wasn't... But it was significant, like I could see the difference in accuracy and the feel in the hand. It was like-

    17. CHCameron Hanes1:06:16

        Yeah.

    18. JRJoe Rogan1:06:16

        ... a little more vibration in the hand, a little, a little more clunky in the draw cycle. And then I picked up last year's bow, and I was like, "Wow."

    19. CHCameron Hanes1:06:24

        Yeah.

    20. JRJoe Rogan1:06:24

        You feel the smoothness of the draw cycle. And then it just f- I was more confident with it. It felt-

    21. CHCameron Hanes1:06:29

        Yeah.

    22. JRJoe Rogan1:06:29

        ... more accurate. It's crazy how they just keep making them better.

    23. CHCameron Hanes1:06:33

        I think when you're so dialed in with, with your bow, when you shoot as much as... It doesn't take much of a difference to feel it.

    24. JRJoe Rogan1:06:38

        Right. Right.

    25. CHCameron Hanes1:06:39

        You know what I mean? You shoot so much-

    26. JRJoe Rogan1:06:41

        Yeah.

    27. CHCameron Hanes1:06:41

        ... a little change, you're gonna be like, "Whoa."

    28. JRJoe Rogan1:06:44

        Mm-hmm.

    29. CHCameron Hanes1:06:44

        It feels like a lot, even though it's a little.

    30. JRJoe Rogan1:06:46

        But can you imagine being those engineers, and you've gotta, like, fine-tune-

Episode duration: 2:38:31