Joe Rogan Experience #2070 - Evan Hafer

1. 0:00 – 15:00

   (drumbeats) Joe Rogan podcast,…

   1. NANarrator0:00

      (drumbeats) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out. The Joe Rogan Experience. (drumbeats) Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night. All day. (rock music)

   2. JRJoe Rogan0:12

      ... as far as, like, cage fighting commentators go.

   3. EHEvan Hafer0:15

      (laughs) That's- that's what you're classifying yourself as? (laughs)

   4. JRJoe Rogan0:17

      Yeah, pothead, comedian, slash cage fighting commentator.

   5. EHEvan Hafer0:21

      Cage fighting commentator.

   6. JRJoe Rogan0:23

      I got a pretty solid IQ for that.

   7. EHEvan Hafer0:25

      No, that's great.

   8. JRJoe Rogan0:25

      So you said it was, uh, the average, there's 16% of America-

   9. EHEvan Hafer0:31

      Yeah.

   10. JRJoe Rogan0:31

       ... that has below 85 IQ?

   11. EHEvan Hafer0:33

       Correct. So that's the cutoff for military service. So they can't take-

   12. JRJoe Rogan0:39

       This ki-

   13. EHEvan Hafer0:39

       ... somebody in.

   14. JRJoe Rogan0:39

       This is the kinda talk to start Hitler off.

   15. EHEvan Hafer0:42

       (laughs)

   16. JRJoe Rogan0:43

       This is (laughs) this is like (laughs) , when they start getting into the master race-

   17. EHEvan Hafer0:46

       Yeah.

   18. JRJoe Rogan0:46

       ... eugenic ... 'Cause you know, like, I would never, ever say that people shouldn't breed. I would never say anything like that. I would never-

   19. EHEvan Hafer0:54

       You wouldn't?

   20. JRJoe Rogan0:55

       I would never.

   21. EHEvan Hafer0:56

       (laughs) Are you serious?

   22. JRJoe Rogan0:57

       We were ... (laughs) If we were in elk hunting camp, I probably could tell you that.

   23. EHEvan Hafer1:02

       Yeah, yeah.

   24. JRJoe Rogan1:02

       But, uh, publicly, I would never say that.

   25. EHEvan Hafer1:04

       You would never say it on this podcast?

   26. JRJoe Rogan1:06

       Yeah. I mean, here's the thing. I don't know what my parents' IQs were. What if my parents were, you know, like, what if, uh, my, they got IQs and their IQ tests were really low?

   27. EHEvan Hafer1:18

       Uh-

   28. JRJoe Rogan1:18

       But I mean, isn't it possible that someone who's re- not that bright has a super smart kid, like they give them enough vaccines, and the gi- kid comes out a genius?

   29. EHEvan Hafer1:27

       I hope that's the case for my kids. (laughs)

   30. JRJoe Rogan1:29

       (laughs)
2. 15:00 – 30:00

   He looks fucking great.…

   1. EHEvan Hafer15:00

      he's a vampire. He could be.

   2. JRJoe Rogan15:02

      He looks fucking great. (laughs)

   3. EHEvan Hafer15:03

      (laughs) He looks awesome.

   4. JRJoe Rogan15:04

      He looks great.

   5. EHEvan Hafer15:04

      And he's still jumping out of planes, like he's flying planes, he's jumping out of planes.

   6. JRJoe Rogan15:08

      Broke his fucking ankle on a stunt jumping between two buildings. There's a video of him-

   7. EHEvan Hafer15:11

      It's amazing.

   8. JRJoe Rogan15:11

      ... shattering his ankle.

   9. EHEvan Hafer15:12

      Yeah. Like that guy i- in regardless of, of, you know, all the crazy stuff that he said...

   10. JRJoe Rogan15:18

       I think the crazy stuff he says is a good part of it. I think that... (laughs)

   11. EHEvan Hafer15:21

       You think so? (laughs)

   12. JRJoe Rogan15:22

       Yeah. (laughs) I think that's why he's so good.

   13. EHEvan Hafer15:24

       He's like-

   14. JRJoe Rogan15:24

       Listen, man. I swore off da- dating actresses when I was like 27. I was like, "They're just too much work, just too crazy." Es- especially really good ones.

   15. EHEvan Hafer15:34

       Yeah.

   16. JRJoe Rogan15:34

       'Cause I'm not saying if you're a really good actress you have to be nuts, but boy, it would help.

   17. EHEvan Hafer15:38

       Yeah.

   18. JRJoe Rogan15:38

       It would really help. 'Cause they, they can lock into a role in some fucking insane way that you, you know, like they're crying, screaming and crying. Uh, uh, and nothing happened, but they're pretending. But they're, you would think their mom just died-

   19. EHEvan Hafer15:53

       (laughs)

   20. JRJoe Rogan15:54

       ... right in front of them.

   21. EHEvan Hafer15:55

       Yeah.

   22. JRJoe Rogan15:56

       It's crazy. The, the, the, there's, the, the ability to do that is nuts, and some people just have it, and there's a lot of them out there. And I would imagine-

   23. EHEvan Hafer16:04

       Yeah.

   24. JRJoe Rogan16:04

       ... if you're really good at that... Like, you don't think Daniel Day-Lewis is crazy?

   25. EHEvan Hafer16:08

       Oh, man. He, he strikes-

   26. JRJoe Rogan16:10

       He's gotta be.

   27. EHEvan Hafer16:10

       ... me as one. He strikes me as like-

   28. JRJoe Rogan16:12

       He strikes me as totally crazy.

   29. EHEvan Hafer16:12

       He, he, he also strikes me as fascinating.

   30. JRJoe Rogan16:15

       Oh, yeah.
3. 30:00 – 45:00

   That is...... what people…

   1. EHEvan Hafer30:00

      with Lex that you did maybe, like, a year ago, he was asking you straight-up advice, like, "How do you, how do you make yourself better? How do you be a better person?" You're answering, saying, "Hey, this is what worked for me." Well, you're obviously successful. You should be propagating that out into the, into the country, into the world, having men and women, everybody saying, "Fuck yeah, I'm gonna take more accountability. I'm gonna be more responsible for my life. I'm gonna live radically free because that's fucking cool."

   2. JRJoe Rogan30:30

      That is...... what people who live in cities don't like. (laughs)

   3. EHEvan Hafer30:35

      (laughs)

   4. JRJoe Rogan30:35

      Because if you're living in a city and you're in an apartment building, and you're an urbanist, you're taking yourself-

   5. EHEvan Hafer30:40

      Oh, yeah. Yeah.

   6. JRJoe Rogan30:40

      ... in the ur- ... So you have a scarf, and you're going to get your latte.

   7. EHEvan Hafer30:43

      (laughs)

   8. JRJoe Rogan30:43

      And you know, you ... Maybe you're getting an Uber, or you're hopping in the subway. Like, what you like is infrastructure.

   9. EHEvan Hafer30:49

      Yeah.

   10. JRJoe Rogan30:49

       You know? You like everything to be set up for you. "Oh, we have dinner at the Italian restaurant at 7:30." Great. You go over there. You, you eat food that someone else prepared. You get a glass of wine that someone else grew the grapes. You're not doing shit-

   11. EHEvan Hafer31:04

       No.

   12. JRJoe Rogan31:04

       ... other than consuming, and this is what you enjoy. "We're gonna go to the play. We're gonna go to the opera. We're gonna go see a film. Oppenheimer's out."

   13. EHEvan Hafer31:13

       Okay.

   14. JRJoe Rogan31:13

       "We're gonna go home. Oh, this person is at the fucking comedy club. Let's go see that."

   15. EHEvan Hafer31:18

       Yeah.

   16. JRJoe Rogan31:19

       "Let's go ..." You know, "Let's constantly consume." And those people, like ... People say, "No, you need to get in shape, and you need to start eating well." Like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

   17. EHEvan Hafer31:28

       Whoa.

   18. JRJoe Rogan31:28

       I am not interested in this-

   19. EHEvan Hafer31:30

       (laughs)

   20. JRJoe Rogan31:30

       ... at all. I want someone to wipe my ass. I have a, I have a, a seat on the toilet-

   21. EHEvan Hafer31:35

       (laughs)

   22. JRJoe Rogan31:35

       ... that sprays water up my ass, so I barely have to wipe anymore.

   23. EHEvan Hafer31:38

       (laughs)

   24. JRJoe Rogan31:38

       It just hoses my ass down. I press buttons. I go to sleep. I take an Ambien. I go to sleep. I wake up in the morning. I go to Starbucks.

   25. EHEvan Hafer31:46

       Yeah, it, it's, it's, it's almost a, a prescription for ... What I would say is if you wanna live within the, the, the safety and in the sanctuary of an urban environment, where you've got everything mapped out to you, so you've been indoctrinated under a system of, like, bells and whistles-

   26. JRJoe Rogan32:04

       Yeah.

   27. EHEvan Hafer32:04

       ... that-

   28. JRJoe Rogan32:04

       It's nice.

   29. EHEvan Hafer32:05

       ... conformity means everything in, in academia.

   30. JRJoe Rogan32:08

       Oh, yeah.
4. 45:00 – 1:00:00

   Right. …

   1. EHEvan Hafer45:00

      I'm so grateful. Like, I'm just so grateful for the things that I've, I've been able to do over the last 10 years. And, you know, I, I, I tell this to people all the time, where I go to my refrigerator to pull milk out for my kids. There's not a morning or a day that doesn't go by where I don't thank my customers for... They g- they've given me this opportunity, right?

   2. JRJoe Rogan45:21

      Right.

   3. EHEvan Hafer45:21

      They've given me this opportunity to make crazy art and amazing coffee, and build this culture of people that I love. Fuck, that, that is cool, man, and it's-

   4. JRJoe Rogan45:30

      It is very cool.

   5. EHEvan Hafer45:31

      ... it's, it's them. They did it, they, they did it for me. I, I just kind of, like, have facilitated it.

   6. JRJoe Rogan45:36

      But it was the perfect thing for you to plug into-

   7. EHEvan Hafer45:39

      Yeah.

   8. JRJoe Rogan45:39

      ... and to apply your passion into a new direction. What's interesting, too, about Black Rifle... And by the way, thank you for the cup.

   9. EHEvan Hafer45:45

      Yeah, man.

   10. JRJoe Rogan45:46

       Evan brought me a mug. This is how thoughtful he is. It's white on the inside, so I can see how dark the coffee is.

   11. EHEvan Hafer45:51

       (laughs)

   12. JRJoe Rogan45:51

       That's a real coffee nerd, folks.

   13. EHEvan Hafer45:54

       Yeah, it's, it's built perfectly from... A- and, uh, I won't, like... Everybody will gloss over and start, like, tuning out, but it's one to 16 ratio brew method from-

   14. JRJoe Rogan46:04

       (laughs)

   15. EHEvan Hafer46:04

       ... 30 grams of coffee in and 480 grams yielded. But then, you can see it, uh, how dark is it, how light is it. You can kind of, um... I built it for the perfect mug, based on how many fingers can you get in, uh, through the handle.

   16. JRJoe Rogan46:19

       Hmm.

   17. EHEvan Hafer46:19

       What's the weight of it? I also build things that, if you have to hit somebody in the fucking face with it... (laughs)

   18. JRJoe Rogan46:24

       (laughs)

   19. EHEvan Hafer46:24

       (laughs) They're not...

   20. JRJoe Rogan46:27

       It's got some heft.

   21. EHEvan Hafer46:28

       It's got some heft. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

   22. JRJoe Rogan46:29

       Yeah. These little bitches will break easy.

   23. EHEvan Hafer46:31

       Yeah, yeah.

   24. JRJoe Rogan46:32

       Yeah, this has got-

   25. EHEvan Hafer46:32

       And you, yeah.

   26. JRJoe Rogan46:33

       ... a lot more heft to it.

   27. EHEvan Hafer46:34

       It's got a heavy, heavy bottom in it, so there's-

   28. JRJoe Rogan46:36

       Yeah.

   29. EHEvan Hafer46:36

       ... a little bit of thought that went into that.

   30. JRJoe Rogan46:37

       You could fuck someone up with that.
5. 1:00:00 – 1:13:15

   That's fucking wild. …

   1. JRJoe Rogan1:00:00

      wild cats, they're m- fucking unbelievable murderers.

   2. EHEvan Hafer1:00:05

      That's fucking wild.

   3. JRJoe Rogan1:00:07

      (laughs)

   4. EHEvan Hafer1:00:07

      (laughs)

   5. JRJoe Rogan1:00:07

      Look at this. Researchers get that a single cat may kill between 100 and 200 mammals annually. (laughs)

   6. EHEvan Hafer1:00:13

      (laughs)

   7. JRJoe Rogan1:00:13

      Just murderers.

   8. EHEvan Hafer1:00:15

      Yeah. I, like I could have a barn cat. Like that'd be cool.

   9. JRJoe Rogan1:00:18

      Well, they will definitely keep-

   10. EHEvan Hafer1:00:19

       Yeah.

   11. JRJoe Rogan1:00:19

       ... rats away.

   12. EHEvan Hafer1:00:19

       Yeah.

   13. JRJoe Rogan1:00:20

       That, that is, I mean, they have a function on farms. They're, they're great.

   14. EHEvan Hafer1:00:24

       100%.

   15. JRJoe Rogan1:00:24

       They're great. They're great. They're great at doing ... If you wanna have a wild cat, that's the place to have them. They fucking keep everything away. There's this, um, hunting lease that my friend Tyler from Archery Country has. And we went there, and there's this cool fucking wild cat that hangs out there. But he's like domesticated, like-

   16. EHEvan Hafer1:00:39

       Right.

   17. JRJoe Rogan1:00:39

       ... he comes up to you and rubs up against you, and you're like, "What's up, little buddy?" And that cat just kills everything. All he does is, r- I mean, he's ... I don't think anybody feeds him. I think he-

   18. EHEvan Hafer1:00:48

       He just-

   19. JRJoe Rogan1:00:48

       ... wanders around that ranch-

   20. EHEvan Hafer1:00:50

       Yeah.

   21. JRJoe Rogan1:00:50

       ... killing everything he needs to eat.

   22. EHEvan Hafer1:00:52

       That's...... that's a great life.

   23. JRJoe Rogan1:00:53

       It's a great life for him. He's so happy. Like, that cat, 'cause he, he loves people. Like, he's not an, he's not a wild cat in a sense that he's not domesticated-

   24. EHEvan Hafer1:01:02

       Right.

   25. JRJoe Rogan1:01:02

       ... because he does come right up to you and rubs up against you.

   26. EHEvan Hafer1:01:05

       Sure.

   27. JRJoe Rogan1:01:05

       And you pat him and he rubs over, you can rub his belly. He's not worried about people at all. Everybody treats him really nice. So he's like a sweet, sweet cat.

   28. EHEvan Hafer1:01:13

       Right.

   29. JRJoe Rogan1:01:13

       But no one's feeding him. He's just a little murderer, (laughs) just running around eating-

   30. EHEvan Hafer1:01:18

       Just fucking...

Episode duration: 2:45:05