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Joe Rogan Experience #2071 - Kim Congdon & Sara Weinshenk

Joe Rogan and Kim Congdon on comics riff on acting, assault, aliens, oceans, drugs, and AI.

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  1. 0:00 – 1:15

    Austin arrival banter: accents, “y’all,” and regional pronunciations

    1. NA

      (drum roll) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out.

    2. The Joe Rogan Experience. (drum roll)

    3. Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. (rock music)

    4. JR

      Okay.

    5. KC

      Oh.

    6. JR

      Oh, hi.

    7. KC

      Hi.

    8. SW

      Hi.

    9. JR

      (laughs) What's up, ladies?

    10. KC

      Whoa.

    11. SW

      Hi, hi, hi.

    12. JR

      Welcome to town.

    13. KC

      Thanks.

    14. JR

      Like, legit, you guys are here now.

    15. SW

      (exhales)

    16. KC

      Yes.

    17. SW

      We're here now.

    18. JR

      How's it feel?

    19. SW

      It feels good.

    20. JR

      Have you said "y'all" yet?

    21. SW

      Y'all?

    22. KC

      I've been saying y'all.

    23. JR

      Yeah?

    24. KC

      Yeah.

    25. JR

      When did you start?

    26. KC

      I'm from Florida.

    27. JR

      Oh, right.

    28. KC

      Yeah.

    29. SW

      Y'all.

    30. JR

      You gotta like... Florida's weird. It's like-

  2. 1:15 – 4:12

    Redneck vs. hillbilly etiquette (and an Ozark scene gone nuclear)

    1. KC

      I like the, the video that's going viral right now with the redneck dude, and he goes, "I don't care what you call me. Don't call me that."

    2. SW

      (laughs)

    3. KC

      (laughs)

    4. JR

      What does he say?

    5. SW

      He says, "You can call me anything you want."

    6. KC

      "Anything you want, but don't call me that."

    7. JR

      "But don't call me that."

    8. SW

      (laughs)

    9. KC

      (laughs)

    10. JR

      Don't call him what?

    11. KC

      (laughs) I don't know.

    12. SW

      I don't know.

    13. KC

      I'm guessing the N-word.

    14. SW

      I'm, I'm... And I'm guessing gay.

    15. JR

      (laughs)

    16. SW

      I'm guessing gay.

    17. JR

      But isn't there, like... That was the thing about that mo- that show, Ozark. There's a distinction between a redneck and a hillbilly.

    18. SW

      There is.

    19. JR

      Oh, when you're a big guy and someone calls you Hoss, Bubba, or Big Boy.

    20. NA

      (laughs) You can call me anything you want, but don't call me that.

    21. SW

      (laughs)

    22. KC

      (laughs)

    23. JR

      Wow. That's a real guy.

    24. SW

      Yep.

    25. KC

      (laughs)

    26. JR

      That's a real guy.

    27. KC

      Uh-

    28. JR

      But remember in the mo-... Did you guys watch, uh, Ozark?

    29. SW

      Mm-mm.

    30. JR

      That Netflix show?

  3. 4:12 – 5:52

    Why comedians love acting: empathy, perspective, and “thinking in gray”

    1. KC

      I want to act so bad. That looks so fun.

    2. SW

      That does look fun.

    3. KC

      You don't like... Yeah.

    4. JR

      It does look fun.

    5. NA

      Yeah. Acting? So fun.

    6. JR

      Really?

    7. KC

      Yeah.

    8. JR

      Have you done it?

    9. NA

      Yeah.

    10. KC

      I love it.

    11. JR

      You love it?

    12. KC

      I-

    13. SW

      We love it.

    14. KC

      I lo-... I love it. Like-

    15. JR

      What parts do you love?

    16. KC

      ... I hate to say this. Sometimes I like it more than standup.

    17. JR

      Damn.

    18. KC

      Mm-hmm.

    19. SW

      I-

    20. KC

      I do.

    21. SW

      I just think it's just, it's just different. They're just different. I like being someone else other than myself and, like, become-

    22. JR

      Hmm.

    23. SW

      ... and being, like, becoming a different character and, like, actually doing that.

    24. JR

      Right.

    25. SW

      And I used to do it a lot before I started standup, and then I fell in love with standup, and now I'm just like, "Standup, standup, standup." You know?

    26. KC

      You know, I kind of feel the op- I kind of feel the exact opposite. I like finding a character and finding myself in them.

    27. JR

      Hmm.

    28. KC

      Like, instead of not being myself, I like, like, finding a character-

    29. SW

      Well, that-

    30. KC

      ... and then seeing how, like, I would be them.

  4. 5:52 – 8:54

    Scam calls, leaked numbers, and the dark side of Instagram access

    1. JR

      Mm. (phone chimes)

    2. KC

      Oh, sorry. I, uh...

    3. JR

      Ah.

    4. NA

      (laughs)

    5. JR

      (laughs)

    6. SW

      Who, who doesn't put their phone on do not disturb?

    7. KC

      Dude, I gotta tell you, I don't know who this is, it's not a number, but-... the f- the caller ID says, "Try To Judge Me, Incorporated."

    8. JR

      Whoa.

    9. KC

      (laughs) I don't-

    10. SW

      Wait, that's so weird.

    11. JR

      That's who's calling you?

    12. KC

      Yeah.

    13. JR

      You should screenshot that.

    14. KC

      I am going to.

    15. SW

      That used to be... When I was in my 20s, I tried (laughs) to start a website called trytojudgeme.com with Mel.

    16. KC

      It's you calling me.

    17. SW

      Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

    18. KC

      Sorry.

    19. SW

      That's so weird. Um, but yeah.

    20. JR

      Yeah, whoever the... Don't get involved with them. (laughs)

    21. KC

      No.

    22. SW

      Try, try to judge me.

    23. KC

      But two was a two.

    24. JR

      (laughs) Starting out at 10.

    25. SW

      (laughs)

    26. KC

      (laughs)

    27. JR

      Like, whoa. What are we doing? You're just calling me.

    28. SW

      (laughs)

    29. KC

      Are we in a fight already? Whoever this is.

    30. JR

      Their whole name is an argument.

  5. 8:54 – 9:40

    Loneliness, incels, and a detour into ‘post-nut clarity’ as harm reduction

    1. SW

      They'll find a way to show you their dicks. (laughs)

    2. JR

      Imagine being a dude that like just sprints to jerk off like the moment people are staring at him. (laughs)

    3. KC

      So horny.

    4. SW

      Like, "It's my chance!"

    5. JR

      (laughs)

    6. KC

      You know what? If you're that horny, sprint to jerk off. Do what you need to do to not shoot up a school. I don't know what to tell you.

    7. JR

      Dude, I don't think it's horny people shooting up those schools.

    8. KC

      I think it is.

    9. JR

      I think it's super depressed people.

    10. KC

      But a little horny too.

    11. JR

      Why horny?

    12. KC

      'Cause they're probably... That's probably a big r-

    13. SW

      'Cause if you just came-

    14. KC

      If you're having regular sex, you're less depressed.

    15. SW

      If you just came, you're less likely... Like right after, post-nut clarity. No one's gonna shoot up a school right after they just jizzed.

    16. KC

      Think of the children.

    17. SW

      (laughs)

    18. JR

      Well, that's probably also part of the depression is that they're not getting any affection.

    19. SW

      Right.

    20. JR

      You know?

    21. KC

      Hug your local incel.

    22. JR

      There's some broken humans out there, and they're-

    23. KC

      There are. There's also just a lot of people that are lonely.

    24. JR

      And they're medicated.

    25. KC

      Yeah.

  6. 9:40 – 18:26

    The ‘blind guy’ assault story at Sony Hall—and the blue checkmark aftermath

    1. SW

      Well, yeah. You know about broken people when we tried to do... When we did... When you opened for Joey.

    2. KC

      Yeah.

    3. SW

      Do you know this story?

    4. KC

      How I got my blue check mark?

    5. JR

      What happened?

    6. KC

      You know how I got verified on Instagram?

    7. JR

      How?

    8. KC

      Okay. I've been trying to get verified on Instagram for like 10 years, sending in... You send in a stupid fucking thing, and you send in the articles that you've been mentioned in, and they would always ignore it. And then last year, in November...

    9. SW

      It was October.

    10. KC

      In October.

    11. SW

      We opened for Joey at Sony Hall.

    12. KC

      At Broadway, sold-out show.

    13. SW

      We were so excited.

    14. KC

      I had the best set. I just had like one of the best sets of my life in this sold-out theater. Everyone's like, "Whoa!" Like literally standing ovation, right? I get off stage. I'm going to get my camera that's on a tripod in the back, and like during the chaos of people being like, "Great job!" You know, you have to walk past people to get... walk out. And then, um, and some dude pokes my vagina. Like...

    15. JR

      Oh, yes. I did hear about this.

    16. KC

      Did you hear this story? Yeah. So he does that, but then when I turn around to see who does it, he acts like he's blind and disabled. So then immediately, I'm like kind of just like my adrenaline's pumping just from the set itself and then that just happened, and then I see that it's a blind person. So I'm just like overwhelmed. And then people are trying to like say hi, and you know, whatever, after my set. So I go to sit with Sarah, and I go, "Sarah, like some blind dude just accidentally poked me in the vagina." And she goes, "You got assaulted." (laughs)

    17. SW

      (laughs) Time out.

    18. KC

      (laughs) She goes, she goes-

    19. SW

      I'm like, "What the fuck are you talking about a blind guy touched you in the pussy?"

    20. KC

      She brings me down to reali- Where I'm like... I have like a moment like That's So Raven where I go like, "Mm," and I go like, "I got touched." And it turns into like an... like a whole thing.

    21. JR

      Oh, God.

    22. KC

      'Cause now I'm like kinda pissed.

    23. JR

      Yeah.

    24. KC

      That I even let it... Well, 'cause I'm like-

    25. JR

      Is the blind guy walking around still?

    26. KC

      So, uh, now-

    27. SW

      This story gets crazier, Joe.

    28. KC

      So now Joey's on stage. So I'm like, "I have an hour to find this guy. He came for Joey."

    29. SW

      There's people in headsets.

    30. KC

      There's people... This theater's sold out. They're in suits and little, you know, the earpieces that they bring for the president.

  7. 18:26 – 20:22

    Paid verification, fake authority, and Russian troll farms gaming social media

    1. JR

      Isn't it weird that Twit- like, Twitter, you pay for a check mark, right?

    2. KC

      Yeah.

    3. SW

      Yeah. That went-

    4. JR

      That's weird.

    5. KC

      And Instagram now.

    6. JR

      Instagram too?

    7. KC

      Mm-hmm.

    8. JR

      So does that mean ... But you can pretend to be, can you pretend to be somebody and get a check mark?

    9. KC

      Not really, 'cause I mean, you can, you can, no, you, anyone can get a check mark.

    10. JR

      Like what is really-

    11. SW

      It's kinda obvious when someone's pretending, though.

    12. KC

      Well-

    13. JR

      Yeah, but a verification, what does it, what does it mean? Like what does-

    14. KC

      Nothing anymore.

    15. JR

      So like if you have just a regular account and you have a blue check mark, does it give you access to other things? Like what's the, the point of it?

    16. SW

      I think it just like there's-

    17. KC

      To have one.

    18. SW

      There's people that get blue check marks and then they try to like reach out to people who also have blue check marks to like collaborate. You know what I mean?

    19. JR

      Whoa.

    20. SW

      And they're like, "Oh, I have a blue check mark, so I'm really official now." And it makes it like seem like-

    21. KC

      But you can tell 'cause their, they have like 16 likes.

    22. JR

      What u-

    23. SW

      Yeah.

    24. JR

      What used to make sense is if it was, if like the Sarah Weinshank Twitter account was verified, 'cause you're a person, a public person.

    25. SW

      Right. Right.

    26. JR

      So that makes sense. That should be verified.

    27. SW

      Right.

    28. JR

      Like everybody knows this is her, so if there's a fake one, which there probably is a bunch of them, everybody knows the difference between the real and the fake one. The real one is the blue check mark.

    29. SW

      Exactly.

    30. JR

      But if you could just buy a blue check mark, what does that mean now?

  8. 20:22 – 23:40

    Solar flares, GPS blackouts, and cosmic fragility: sun, moon, and survival math

    1. KC

      I'm waiting for the day the internet, the solar flare happens. We all go down.

    2. JR

      Um, that could happen.

    3. KC

      That could happen.

    4. JR

      That's very likely.

    5. KC

      When?

    6. SW

      Very soon, right?

    7. JR

      Well, it's ve- very unpredictable how the sun works. I mean, not how it works like physically to understand it, but like whether or not you get flares. And some of these flares, have you ever seen what it looks like when you see a solar flare, uh, superimposed with a picture of Earth, like the size of Earth? It's wild how big these things are.

    8. SW

      Really?

    9. JR

      They, they, th- they are so huge. The fucking sun is so gigantic.

    10. KC

      Ugh.

    11. JR

      And it's not even a big sun. It's so insane when you look at it in comparison to the rest of the solar system.

    12. KC

      Is this tomorrow?

    13. SW

      (laughs)

    14. KC

      What?

    15. JR

      There's a solar flare tomorrow?

    16. KC

      For tomorrow.

    17. NA

      Goddammit now.

    18. JR

      Goddammit, Jamie. There's a solar flare tomorrow?

    19. KC

      You know, I always said that I wanted the end of the world to happen when I'm near Joe Rogan. (laughs)

    20. SW

      (laughs)

    21. NA

      Goddammit.

    22. JR

      So just stay on alert. Listen, I, we, we'll, we'll, we'll be okay.

    23. KC

      Ha. Sweetie, I'll be banging on your gate or wherever you live.

    24. JR

      (laughs)

    25. NA

      (laughs)

    26. KC

      (laughs)

    27. JR

      Come on in. I'll show you my zero in rifle.

    28. NA

      (laughs)

    29. SW

      (laughs)

    30. KC

      Just me and my mom. Her hair is not blue anymore.

  9. 23:40 – 31:30

    Space visuals: Webb telescope data, CGI colorization, and ‘Samsung moon’ fakery

    1. NA

      I was gonna ask if, uh, you remind me of this video I saw just recently. Have you seen this before?

    2. JR

      Fresh take on the origin of Earth's moon. Oh, Jesus.

    3. KC

      That's a jellyfish.

    4. NA

      This is the CGI of what ... This is like when the Big Bang happened. So this is Earth, this glowing ball moving.

    5. JR

      Right.

    6. KC

      Okay, cool.

    7. NA

      And something went by it and hit it.

    8. JR

      Yeah.

    9. NA

      And that created the moon, and that's what's still like, these are-

    10. JR

      Yeah.

    11. NA

      ... giant, what would've been an asteroid.

    12. JR

      Well, that's, that's Earth One and Earth Two. That's what the-

    13. NA

      Look, it just reabsorbed.

    14. JR

      Yeah.

    15. NA

      And that, this is gonna be the moon here.

    16. ... but, like, that happened over, you know, thousands and thousands and thousands of years.

    17. JR

      Yeah. Yeah, that's what they think.

    18. NA

      The moon's for sure a woman. We've talked about it before.

    19. JR

      Look at that, like, that's what happened, two planets collided, kids.

    20. NA

      It's kind of sexual.

    21. JR

      Holy shit is it sexual, because it created everything.

    22. NA

      They smashed-

    23. JR

      Listen, that thing-

    24. NA

      ... and it's the same thing as the other things. Everything's the same. Not to be so high about it.

    25. JR

      What do you mean?

    26. NA

      (sighs) It's the same thing as everything else. It's literally ... it literally is sexual. It's like having two people-

    27. JR

      It is.

    28. NA

      ... come together and have a child.

    29. JR

      Yeah. Well-

    30. NA

      It's trippy.

  10. 31:30 – 34:15

    Aging reversal, death anxiety, gratitude—and comedians as a ‘clubhouse’

    1. JR

      Inside our lifetime, they're gonna reverse aging.

    2. KC

      Hell yeah.

    3. JR

      Inside our lifetime. Inside our lifetime.

    4. KC

      I've actually always believed that, so I really like to hear you say that. I'm b- been terrified of death my whole life-

    5. JR

      Mm-hmm.

    6. KC

      ... and I've just convinced myself to feel better that, by the time I'm that old, I can go back.

    7. JR

      (smacks lips) I think they're working really hard on it, and they're coming very close. And I think there's gonna be some improvements in w- whether it's... You know, whether it's m- pharmaceutical drugs or medical technology. They're gonna figure something out.

    8. KC

      'Cause it's a simulation, and we don't actually ever end.

    9. JR

      Well, that's what Bert Kreischer says. He goes, he goes, "I don't believe you die. Prove it."

    10. KC

      Yeah. Though that's a thing comics have 'cause they're-

    11. JR

      "I don't think you have to die."

    12. SW

      (laughs)

    13. KC

      That's... (laughs)

    14. JR

      Like, what is she talking about?

    15. KC

      No, I've read, I've read into that. That's mental illness that comics have. I have that too.

    16. JR

      Hmm.

    17. KC

      I'm like, "I'll never die." It's like you f- are, like, in such denial.

    18. JR

      (laughs)

    19. SW

      I've accepted it.

    20. KC

      No, I'm like-

    21. SW

      I'm like-

    22. JR

      Death?

    23. SW

      Yeah.

    24. JR

      Yeah?

    25. SW

      I feel like i- i- if you think of the fact that you're gonna die, it makes you live every day differently.

    26. KC

      No.

    27. JR

      Um...

    28. SW

      I, that's how I feel.

    29. JR

      Well, it definitely will if you feel that way.

    30. SW

      Yeah, I think about it all the time, and instead of, like, fearing it, I'm like, "Okay, well-"

  11. 34:15 – 38:55

    Reincarnation questions, shared dream locations, and Joe’s demon-horror riff

    1. SW

      I have a question.

    2. JR

      Okay.

    3. SW

      Do, do you believe in reincarnation?

    4. JR

      I don't not believe in it.

    5. SW

      Do you think you were something else in a past life?

    6. JR

      I don't know.

    7. SW

      Sometimes I think I was a 1950s housewife in a past life.

    8. JR

      Oh.

    9. SW

      Like I'm overly connected to that time period, and I'm like, "Was I a 1950s housewife last time?"

    10. KC

      She cums when she gets hit. (laughs)

    11. JR

      Is this from dreams?

    12. SW

      Yeah. (laughs)

    13. KC

      (laughs)

    14. JR

      Dreams... Like what... Y- do you ever wonder, like, what... If... Do you ever have repeating dreams?

    15. KC

      Yeah.

    16. SW

      Yeah. Oh my gosh.

    17. KC

      I had to see a doctor 'cause I had the same dream for five years.

    18. JR

      What is it?

    19. KC

      I was at, at this beach. It was my college town, and I was at this beach, and I would be in a haunted hote- I would have to stay at this haunted place that I was moving into.

    20. JR

      Hmm.

    21. KC

      But the beach was beautiful, like it was like a paradise. But every night I was, like, scared.

    22. SW

      But I als-

    23. JR

      Hmm.

    24. SW

      Remember we found out I was also having the same dream?

    25. KC

      Yeah.

    26. SW

      We were going to the same places in our dreams.

    27. KC

      But I also saw on TikTok that a lot of people were going to the same dream that I was going to.

    28. JR

      What?

    29. KC

      Yeah.

    30. SW

      Yeah.

  12. 38:55 – 44:46

    Grief, intuition, Adderall withdrawal psychosis, and the productivity trap

    1. KC

      (laughs) Yeah, no, fucked up dreams. You know, I had a friend pass away, like, seven years ago, and that, this is really, this is scary. Not scary, it's pretty trippy, but very true. I was dating someone at this time and he was staying with me, and I had, I never had night terrors where I woke out of, up out of my sleep ever in my entire life. And I had one one night where I woke up and I, 'cause I had a dream that someone came in my room while I was watching TV at night in my bed, and they were wearing a hoodie. I couldn't see their face. And their face was, like, blacked out, and they sat next to me in bed and then pulled out a gun and shot themselves in the head and died next to me.

    2. SW

      Mm-mm.

    3. KC

      And it was someone... And I could tell it was someone I cared about because I wasn't scared when they were sitting next to me. It felt like a friend. And I said, like, "Why did you do that in my dream?" And the person said, "I'm sorry. I'm dying." And then t- three hours later, I got a call that my best friend died. And that was the dream I had that night, and it was the only dream that's ever woken me up out of my sleep-

    4. SW

      Ugh.

    5. KC

      ... where I was, like, so terrified, I woke up.

    6. SW

      Kim, Kimma is a little intuitive.

    7. KC

      It was really weird.

    8. JR

      Well, Kim's a little nutty.

    9. SW

      (laughs) She is.

    10. JR

      And most nutty people, they, they can sense some things that m- Like, you ever wonder, like, schizophrenics, when they're running around talking to themselves, "What's-

    11. KC

      Are you saying I'm schizophrenic? (laughs)

    12. JR

      No, no, no, no, I'm not. I'm not.

    13. KC

      (laughs)

    14. JR

      But have you ever wondered, maybe someone's talking back to them?

    15. KC

      I f- I think that all the time.

    16. SW

      Well, I've-

    17. KC

      'Cause sometimes I hear them say things that make sense.

    18. SW

      Well, yeah.

    19. KC

      (laughs)

    20. SW

      I mean, I also was...

    21. KC

      Oh, I'm like, "That was..."

    22. SW

      I went into a... When Brodie died, I went into an actual psychosis. I was taking, um, Adderall for a lot of years, and then I stopped taking it suddenly 'cause I wanted to sleep and I was so sad that he had died. I abruptly stopped taking Adderall and it put me in, like, this wild psychosis. And now I talk about it all the time 'cause it's so, it's so mass, like, prescribed. It's insane.

    23. JR

      Well, it's an amphetamine.

    24. KC

      Yeah.

    25. SW

      It, it's meth.

    26. JR

      Well, it's, it's better.

    27. SW

      Yeah.

    28. JR

      If you're gonna take one, I'd take Adderall.

    29. SW

      Yeah.

    30. KC

      It's better. Yeah, yeah.

  13. 44:46 – 51:21

    Creative chaos: messy apartments, coffee-shop writing, and friendship stress-tests

    1. KC

      I'm telling you right now, I, I don't remember who said this, but s- it was a famous woman, she said if, like, uh, if my apartment's clean, my work's not doing well.

    2. JR

      Ooh.

    3. KC

      It's like, it's like for me, it really is one or the other.

    4. SW

      True.

    5. KC

      If my place is clean, I haven't had a set in a couple days, you know what I mean?

    6. JR

      Right.

    7. KC

      Like, I've been at home. If, if, if I'm doing well, my shit is... I have boxes in my house that are just half opened and, like-

    8. SW

      I got bags of stuff. I'm like, "I don't know what that is."

    9. KC

      I haven't packed... I haven't packed from the last trip before the next trip. Yeah.

    10. JR

      That's really interesting.

    11. KC

      Yeah.

    12. JR

      That's really interesting that you said that. Cre- I think creative people would probably agree with that.

    13. SW

      Mm-hmm.

    14. JR

      Like, especially when you get on a, a, a, like if you're on something, like, you're working on something and you're, like, really into it, I don't give a fuck what's going on around me.

    15. SW

      Mm-hmm.

    16. KC

      That was like-

    17. JR

      I'm just focused on what I'm doing. I got empty cans and shit and cigars.

    18. SW

      When we, we just wrote, (laughs) we wrote a movie together and that whole time my apartment was fucked up.

    19. KC

      Same. Same. It was embarrassing.

    20. JR

      Yeah.

    21. KC

      It was embarrassing.

    22. SW

      Us writing?

    23. JR

      Yeah. But j- that's-

    24. KC

      I gotta tell you, being a creative is embarrassing.

    25. JR

      Being a creative?

    26. SW

      (laughs)

    27. KC

      It's embarrassing.

    28. JR

      (laughs)

    29. KC

      It is.

    30. SW

      Yeah, we were meeting-

  14. 51:21 – 55:25

    Hawaii stories: turtle ‘sea Karen,’ ocean danger, drownings, and Sharktober

    1. KC

      It was so nice to- it was our f- like first real vacation in so long when we went to Hawaii.

    2. If I'm at the beach, I'm pretty embarrassing.

    3. JR

      Dude, we're supposed to get sun all the time.

    4. KC

      Ugh.

    5. JR

      That's one of the reasons why you feel good when you're on vacation, you're getting all that vitamin D.

    6. KC

      Tell Joe how I was in the ocean.

    7. What?

    8. Sarah's tanning.

    9. Yeah.

    10. I'm like snorkel on, have a tube-

    11. (laughs)

    12. ... where the water's breaking and I'm trying to dive through the tube. I'm riding the tube onto the sand, I'm flipping my... I like- I'll... if I go to the beach-

    13. I'm like reading a magazine on the sands. (laughs)

    14. ... I don't leave the water until like my lips are like blue and my hands are like wrinkled. Like, I'll just like float with a snorkel like I'm dead and let the waves wash me in and drag me out and wash me in-

    15. We gotta tell Joe-

    16. ... for hours. I- it d- it- it never gets old to me.

    17. JR

      Mm.

    18. KC

      You gotta tell him about the turtles.

    19. (sighs)

    20. About how we got hu- okay.

    21. I got humiliated in Kauai. Hold on.

    22. And she gets embarrassed. I don't, I didn't give a fuck.

    23. Oh, I got embarrassed. 'Cause that we went to this beach where I guess the sea turtles swim up.

    24. Poipu, yeah.

    25. Poipu, and I'm like very-

    26. In Kauai.

    27. ... aware of like not touching anything, staying away, giving everything its space. So I'm trying to do that, but the tourists are kind of chasing the turtle to where it runs into me, and it's trying to escape. And I'm trying not to move so it can go around me, but it doesn't know where to go, and right then this lady comes with a megaphone.

    28. This Karen.

    29. And she's like, "Step away from the turtle." (laughs)

    30. (laughs)

  15. 55:25 – 1:05:35

    Sea creatures as aliens: jellyfish ‘learning,’ deadly octopus toxins, and kraken myths

    1. JR

      I agree. You know they, they did some study recently where they showed that jellyfish, despite not having a brain, they seem to be able to learn. Now they're go- now they're trying to figure out, well, how are they learning? I know how they learn. How? Vibes. Vibes, man. They feel the vibes.

    2. SW

      They feel the vibe. Yeah, th- 'cause I mean like if we lived-

    3. JR

      You don't have to have a brain to feel the vibes. (laughs)

    4. SW

      If we lived in a vibrational universe where everything is frequency, it would make sense that the-

    5. JR

      They feel the vibes.

    6. SW

      They're vibing out down there.

    7. JR

      They just go with what the flow is. They're very, uh, they're very jelly-like. They just go with whatever the energy is doing already. Mm-hmm. That's why it seems like they know. So it's a theory. You guys, you guys seem like you, you came up with this theory together and you've discussed this before. Oh, I just thought of it right now- (laughs) ... and Sarah came on board with me. And I feel like we're onto something.

    8. SW

      Yeah. Yeah, we're onto something.

    9. JR

      Are we not onto something?

    10. SW

      Well, no, I think we live in a vib-

    11. JR

      I think the vibes thing, yeah.

    12. SW

      I think we live in a vibrational universe and that things enter our experience based on the things that we think and the world that we create.

    13. JR

      Yeah.

    14. SW

      And so when you like-

    15. JR

      I just think if the fish are flowing this way, the jelly is gonna go this way too. (laughs)

    16. SW

      (laughs)

    17. JR

      And it seems like they know what they're doing, but they're just kinda going with whatever is happening around them. Also some of them are poisonous as fuck, like the box jellyfish.

    18. SW

      (laughs)

    19. JR

      People- Which means they know they need to be poisonous. Yeah. So which means they're aware that there's danger, so they're aware.

    20. SW

      They're sentient in some way.

    21. JR

      Yeah. They have no brain but they're aware. They're like, "Don't fuck with me." I know a lot of people like that. (laughs)

    22. SW

      (laughs)

    23. JR

      Yeah. I know a lot of jellyfish.

    24. SW

      (laughs)

    25. JR

      (laughs) Well, especially if you think about where box jellyfish live, they're Australia, right? Australia has great white sharks everywhere. Uh, Australia has those little cute, um, octopi that... Is it octopus pie? I think it's octopi. Octopi that are the little blue-ringed ones that look like you can pick them up but they'll kill you. Oh, really? They're like the most dangerous one in the world.

    26. SW

      It's not octopussies. (laughs) That would be-

    27. JR

      (laughs) That's a James Bond movie.

    28. SW

      (laughs)

    29. JR

      Octopussies. The blue-ringed octopus, yeah. It's like very cute and small and they have videos of p- that one. That'll kill you? Yeah, that'll kill you. How come that guy has it on his hand? It's like one of the most dea- the most deadly octopus. Wow.

    30. SW

      It looks sick.

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