Joe Rogan Experience #2072 - Stavros Halkias

1. 0:00 – 1:41

   Texas beef culture: buying half a cow and why grass-fed tastes different

   1. NANarrator0:00

      (drum roll) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out. The Joe Rogan Experience. (rock music plays) Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day.

   2. SHStavros Halkias0:12

      I don't know. They ha- I think it's their own blend. Some kind of tobacco there.

   3. JRJoe Rogan0:16

      Yeah. Let's go live and sort this out.

   4. SHStavros Halkias0:18

      (laughs) Yeah, come on. You know how podcasting works. (laughs)

   5. JRJoe Rogan0:20

      Yeah. We're wasting all this beautiful-

   6. SHStavros Halkias0:22

      Yeah. (laughs)

   7. JRJoe Rogan0:23

      ... perfect time.

   8. NANarrator0:23

      I was recording it. I was recording it.

   9. SHStavros Halkias0:25

      We used every part-

   10. NANarrator0:26

       The first-

   11. SHStavros Halkias0:26

       ... of the buffalo. (laughs)

   12. JRJoe Rogan0:27

       We, we missed this entire Jamie ordering a half cow. "What's wrong with cows?"

   13. SHStavros Halkias0:31

       (laughs)

   14. NANarrator0:31

       (laughs)

   15. SHStavros Halkias0:31

       I love that. I'm, I'm with homesteader, I'm with prepper Jamie.

   16. NANarrator0:35

       (laughs)

   17. SHStavros Halkias0:36

       (laughs)

   18. JRJoe Rogan0:37

       Jamie's got canned peaches in his basement.

   19. SHStavros Halkias0:39

       (laughs)

   20. NANarrator0:39

       I just thought it was a Texas thing.

   21. JRJoe Rogan0:40

       What, getting a half a cow?

   22. NANarrator0:42

       Yeah.

   23. SHStavros Halkias0:42

       (laughs)

   24. JRJoe Rogan0:42

       Yeah. Well, it is. Well, one of the beautiful things about living around here is that there are a bunch of, like, really good ranchers.

   25. SHStavros Halkias0:48

       Mm.

   26. JRJoe Rogan0:48

       And you could buy meat from someone who you know they grew the cow, you know they didn't pump it full of antibiotics and hormones. There's a lot of grass-fed ranchers out here.

   27. SHStavros Halkias0:58

       That's nice.

   28. NANarrator0:59

       I think that's what I was thinking one day.

   29. SHStavros Halkias1:01

       I would love a nice ... I would love a nice fucking grass-fed rib eye.

   30. JRJoe Rogan1:05

       Oh. Better rest. (sighs) I'm a big fan of the grass-fed rib eyes. B- most people are so used to corn-fed, though. You, you get that pinkish sort of fat.
2. 1:41 – 3:42

   BBLs as “dry-aged beef”: body-mod trends and crude sex/fitness riffing

   1. SHStavros Halkias1:41

      Hm. The BBL, the BBL of cow trough-

   2. NANarrator1:45

      (laughs)

   3. JRJoe Rogan1:45

      ... is fucking corn-fed. (laughs)

   4. NANarrator1:47

      Mm.

   5. SHStavros Halkias1:47

      I like my, yeah. A grass-fed is nice, but I couldn't tell you the difference.

   6. JRJoe Rogan1:52

      They're darker. It's a little chewier. Tastes better to me.

   7. SHStavros Halkias1:55

      Mm-hmm.

   8. JRJoe Rogan1:55

      I, I like the flavor more. The BBL, who was the fucking first doctor-

   9. SHStavros Halkias1:59

      (laughs)

   10. JRJoe Rogan2:01

       ... that was like, "I know what to do with this extra fat."

   11. SHStavros Halkias2:04

       Yeah, yeah, yeah. (laughs) It's genius. It's, like, how a baby would be a doctor.

   12. JRJoe Rogan2:07

       Yeah.

   13. SHStavros Halkias2:07

       You know what I mean? It's like, "Oh, let's put it in their cheeks."

   14. JRJoe Rogan2:09

       Have you seen one in real life, though?

   15. SHStavros Halkias2:12

       I have, and it was pretty good. (laughs)

   16. JRJoe Rogan2:15

       Yeah?

   17. SHStavros Halkias2:15

       Yeah, yeah, yeah. If you get them fresh.

   18. JRJoe Rogan2:17

       (laughs)

   19. SHStavros Halkias2:17

       BBLs are like, BBLs are like fish, you know? You want them-

   20. JRJoe Rogan2:22

       (laughs)

   21. SHStavros Halkias2:22

       (laughs) You don't want them, you don't want them hanging out too long, you don't want too many kids, you know what I mean?

   22. JRJoe Rogan2:27

       (sighs)

   23. SHStavros Halkias2:27

       Like, but if you get them right aft- right after Dr. Miami, you know what I mean?

   24. JRJoe Rogan2:31

       Right, like-

   25. SHStavros Halkias2:32

       You get them-

   26. JRJoe Rogan2:32

       ... four months after healing.

   27. SHStavros Halkias2:33

       Oh, some pretty cool stuff. (laughs)

   28. JRJoe Rogan2:38

       Ah! (laughs)

   29. SHStavros Halkias2:38

       Yeah.

   30. JRJoe Rogan2:38

       Like dry aged beef.
3. 3:42 – 7:06

   Calf reveal, rucking, and comics’ weight-loss cycles (Bert and the grind)

   1. JRJoe Rogan3:42

      Well, I was thinking that about, like, like Ralphie May used to have the most fucking gigantic calves. And I was like, "Ralphie, if you lost weight-"

   2. SHStavros Halkias3:50

      Yeah.

   3. JRJoe Rogan3:50

      "... you, you'd be able to kick through a fucking wall."

   4. SHStavros Halkias3:52

      Bro, check these fu- have you seen these little bad boys?

   5. JRJoe Rogan3:55

      Let me see these bad boys.

   6. SHStavros Halkias3:56

      Come on, dude. This is awesome. This is what I'm coming on the show for.

   7. NANarrator4:00

      (laughs)

   8. SHStavros Halkias4:00

      Calves. Check these fuckers out.

   9. JRJoe Rogan4:02

      Let me see the calves. Let me see the calves.

   10. SHStavros Halkias4:02

       What, what, I put them up here?

   11. JRJoe Rogan4:03

       Yeah, up there.

   12. SHStavros Halkias4:04

       (laughs)

   13. JRJoe Rogan4:04

       Oh, Jesus Christ.

   14. SHStavros Halkias4:07

       Huh?

   15. JRJoe Rogan4:07

       Christ. Oh my God, that's massive.

   16. SHStavros Halkias4:10

       Look at those.

   17. JRJoe Rogan4:11

       But it makes sense.

   18. SHStavros Halkias4:12

       Yeah.

   19. JRJoe Rogan4:12

       I mean, you're basically rucking all day.

   20. SHStavros Halkias4:15

       What's rucking?

   21. JRJoe Rogan4:16

       Rucking is like when guys hike with a heavy, heavy, heavy backpack.

   22. SHStavros Halkias4:19

       Mm-hmm. Uh, oh yeah.

   23. JRJoe Rogan4:20

       It's great cardio.

   24. SHStavros Halkias4:21

       Absolutely.

   25. JRJoe Rogan4:22

       Yeah, you're rucking all day long.

   26. SHStavros Halkias4:23

       I'm ru- I'm doing a 34-year ruck. (laughs)

   27. JRJoe Rogan4:27

       (laughs)

   28. SHStavros Halkias4:27

       We're shedding it any day now.

   29. JRJoe Rogan4:28

       Bro, if you lost weight, you'd have fucking tremendous leg power.

   30. SHStavros Halkias4:31

       Oh, yeah. I gotta get in there. (clears throat)
4. 7:06 – 12:31

   Ari Shaffir’s background: from religious study to comedy, and how talent shows early

   1. JRJoe Rogan7:06

      Ari seems like he's 50 years older than me, and he's younger than me by quite a bit.

   2. SHStavros Halkias7:11

      (laughs)

   3. JRJoe Rogan7:11

      He's at least 10 years younger than me, right?

   4. SHStavros Halkias7:13

      Yeah.

   5. JRJoe Rogan7:13

      How old is Ari?

   6. NANarrator7:14

      Yeah, wait.

   7. JRJoe Rogan7:16

      You think Ari's like 45?

   8. SHStavros Halkias7:18

      I don't know.

   9. JRJoe Rogan7:18

      Well, Google Ari Shaffir.

   10. SHStavros Halkias7:20

       Yeah. (laughs) Jamie's looking up into the-

   11. JRJoe Rogan7:22

       But boy, what do you think that page looks like?

   12. SHStavros Halkias7:23

       ... into the sky instead of (laughs) -

   13. JRJoe Rogan7:24

       What do you think that search looks like when you Google Ari Shaffir? It's probably up, fucking-

   14. SHStavros Halkias7:28

       49.

   15. JRJoe Rogan7:28

       49?

   16. SHStavros Halkias7:29

       49.

   17. JRJoe Rogan7:29

       Oh, yeah. Okay.

   18. SHStavros Halkias7:30

       Well, he's got the, like... He's a man who's b-... Like, his genes are... He should be a rabbi. I mean, he looks-

   19. JRJoe Rogan7:36

       (laughs)

   20. SHStavros Halkias7:36

       ... like a rabbi.

   21. JRJoe Rogan7:37

       Well, he was on his way.

   22. SHStavros Halkias7:37

       The beard's crazy. Uh, yeah. That's right.

   23. JRJoe Rogan7:38

       That's what he was gonna do.

   24. SHStavros Halkias7:39

       It's insane.

   25. JRJoe Rogan7:39

       I mean, he was literally studying the Talmud, like, 12 hours a day. He did the whole deal.

   26. SHStavros Halkias7:44

       Oh, pfft. Wild.

   27. JRJoe Rogan7:44

       Like, he, he went to Israel and he was on his w-

   28. SHStavros Halkias7:48

       Damn.

   29. JRJoe Rogan7:48

       He was very religious. When I met him, he was just breaking out of that.

   30. SHStavros Halkias7:52

       Wow. How, how long ago was this?
5. 12:31 – 15:32

   Ancient Greece reality check: ruins, everyday life, and uncomfortable history

   1. JRJoe Rogan12:31

      It was in Montecito.

   2. SHStavros Halkias12:32

      Ooh.

   3. JRJoe Rogan12:32

      You ever been to Montecito?

   4. SHStavros Halkias12:33

      No.

   5. JRJoe Rogan12:33

      Oh my God.

   6. SHStavros Halkias12:34

      I don't even know what the fuck that is.

   7. JRJoe Rogan12:35

      It's... It's in California. It's, like, above Santa... It's, like, in the Santa Barbara area.

   8. SHStavros Halkias12:39

      Okay.

   9. JRJoe Rogan12:39

      It's one of the most beautiful areas of California. And Italian immigrants came there and it reminded them, I think, of the Amalfi Coast. And they sort of recreated this... It's sort of Italian style. There's, like, really good Italian restaurants, good...

   10. SHStavros Halkias12:54

       Yeah.

   11. JRJoe Rogan12:54

       There's, like, Italian style-

   12. SHStavros Halkias12:56

       Domestic abuse?

   13. JRJoe Rogan12:57

       ... homes. (laughs)

   14. SHStavros Halkias12:57

       They start hitting their wives? (laughs)

   15. JRJoe Rogan12:58

       Not that kind of Italian.

   16. SHStavros Halkias13:00

       Oh, you're right.

   17. JRJoe Rogan13:00

       Not American Italian.

   18. SHStavros Halkias13:00

       French fr... Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

   19. JRJoe Rogan13:02

       That's the sav-... Those are the savage ones that got in the boats.

   20. SHStavros Halkias13:05

       (laughs) Yeah.

   21. JRJoe Rogan13:06

       They're different, bro.

   22. SHStavros Halkias13:07

       Mm-hmm.

   23. JRJoe Rogan13:07

       Italians in Italy and Italians in America are very fucking different.

   24. SHStavros Halkias13:10

       Oh, yeah.

   25. JRJoe Rogan13:11

       It's interesting.

   26. SHStavros Halkias13:12

       For sure. Have you been, do you go to Italy a lot or-

   27. JRJoe Rogan13:13

       Yeah, I used to go every year.

   28. SHStavros Halkias13:14

       Hell yeah.

   29. JRJoe Rogan13:15

       Yeah, (clears throat) this last year I went to Greece for the first time.

   30. SHStavros Halkias13:17

       Ooh, where'd you go?
6. 15:32 – 22:14

   Papua New Guinea shock stories: “semen warriors,” ritual abuse, and hostage reality

   1. JRJoe Rogan15:32

      Well, there's New Guinea. You don't, you, do you know about the semen warriors of New Guinea?

   2. SHStavros Halkias15:39

      What? (laughs)

   3. JRJoe Rogan15:39

      I, I take it by your laughs that you do not.

   4. SHStavros Halkias15:41

      That is... (laughs) What a fucking epithet, (laughs) the Semen Warriors.

   5. JRJoe Rogan15:45

      There's a tribe in Papua New Guinea-

   6. SHStavros Halkias15:47

      (laughs)

   7. JRJoe Rogan15:48

      ... that when a child becomes six or seven-

   8. SHStavros Halkias15:51

      Six?

   9. JRJoe Rogan15:51

      ... they take them away from their mother.

   10. SHStavros Halkias15:53

       No.

   11. JRJoe Rogan15:53

       And they, they bring them to an older man who becomes their anal father.

   12. SHStavros Halkias15:57

       Oh, their anal father.

   13. JRJoe Rogan15:59

       Aner- anal father.

   14. SHStavros Halkias15:59

       Okay.

   15. JRJoe Rogan16:00

       And they believe that the only way for a boy to grow strong is h- he has to ingest semen in his asshole and in his mouth.

   16. SHStavros Halkias16:08

       No. (laughs) Both ways?

   17. JRJoe Rogan16:10

       So... Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So these kids are just sucking cock and getting butt-fucked-

   18. SHStavros Halkias16:13

       No.

   19. JRJoe Rogan16:13

       ... from six, seven on.

   20. SHStavros Halkias16:14

       (laughs) That's fucked up, dude.

   21. JRJoe Rogan16:15

       Yeah. And it's a tr- literal tribal tradition.

   22. SHStavros Halkias16:19

       Oh, my god.

   23. JRJoe Rogan16:20

       Yeah.

   24. SHStavros Halkias16:20

       Look at my boy. Look how he puts down that cock. You think there's, there's, like, proud fathers-

   25. JRJoe Rogan16:24

       Uh-

   26. SHStavros Halkias16:24

       ... with a tear coming down his eye?

   27. JRJoe Rogan16:25

       I don't think they get to watch.

   28. SHStavros Halkias16:26

       (laughs) Well, that's-

   29. JRJoe Rogan16:28

       I don't know what happens with the dads. I guess the dads, like, they, I g- I guess everybody's just used to it.

   30. SHStavros Halkias16:33

       Yeah.
7. 22:14 – 28:38

   Kidnapping survival logic and America anxiety post-COVID

   1. SHStavros Halkias22:14

      That's brutal. Mm-mm. I would do horrible in a kidnapping setting.

   2. JRJoe Rogan22:17

      Dude, you get kidnapped on a fucking island.

   3. SHStavros Halkias22:20

      I'm not getting... I'm not coming out.

   4. JRJoe Rogan22:21

      Oh, my God. Good luck if you get sick.

   5. SHStavros Halkias22:22

      I would try and kill myself. Yeah.

   6. JRJoe Rogan22:24

      I mean, uh, I guarantee you can't drink the water that they can drink.

   7. SHStavros Halkias22:28

      No way.

   8. JRJoe Rogan22:29

      You know, like, you don't... Probably don't... Like, there's people in certain parts of the world that are used to drinking dirty water, and they can survive off dirty water.

   9. SHStavros Halkias22:37

      In their stomachs. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

   10. JRJoe Rogan22:38

       For whatever reason.

   11. SHStavros Halkias22:39

       Yeah.

   12. JRJoe Rogan22:39

       I don't know what the fuck that's all about, but they're like a horse.

   13. SHStavros Halkias22:41

       Survive, yeah. (laughs)

   14. JRJoe Rogan22:42

       You take a horse up to a river, they just drink out of the river.

   15. SHStavros Halkias22:44

       Yeah.

   16. JRJoe Rogan22:45

       Some people can do that.

   17. SHStavros Halkias22:46

       Yeah, yeah, yeah.

   18. JRJoe Rogan22:46

       We lost that a long time ago.

   19. SHStavros Halkias22:47

       Too much clean water from the jump.

   20. JRJoe Rogan22:49

       Oh, God.

   21. SHStavros Halkias22:50

       If we were drinking bullshit from the beginning.

   22. JRJoe Rogan22:52

       We should be back to drinking puddle water.

   23. SHStavros Halkias22:55

       (laughs) Hell yeah, dude.

   24. JRJoe Rogan22:56

       I'm with it.

   25. SHStavros Halkias22:56

       Now we're talking. (laughs)

   26. JRJoe Rogan22:57

       Straighten out the American gut biome.

   27. SHStavros Halkias22:59

       That'll bring us back. (laughs)

   28. JRJoe Rogan23:01

       Yeah, that'll bring us back. What brings us back at this point? I'm fucking worried about America. I really am. I've never been worried about America until COVID. After COVID, I was like, "Oh, well, this might be the end." This might be just like when you go to visit Greece-

   29. SHStavros Halkias23:14

       Yeah.

   30. JRJoe Rogan23:14

       ... and the Parthenon, and you're like, "What happened?"
8. 28:38 – 29:38

   Deepfakes, AI memes, and impersonation as a disappearing craft

   1. JRJoe Rogan28:38

      Well, that's the thing with deepfakes, they don't even have to fucking do that anymore.

   2. SHStavros Halkias28:41

      Oh, you're right.

   3. JRJoe Rogan28:42

      Deepfakes are so nuts.

   4. SHStavros Halkias28:44

      I know, dude.

   5. JRJoe Rogan28:44

      They're so nuts. I was watching this Greta Thunberg deepfake, fake one about electric va- vibrators. (laughs) I was like, "This is so crazy, it's so-"

   6. SHStavros Halkias28:52

      I, I was watching, uh, I- Obama Ice Spice.

   7. JRJoe Rogan28:56

      (laughs)

   8. SHStavros Halkias28:56

      That was pretty good. (laughs)

   9. JRJoe Rogan28:58

      (laughs)

   10. SHStavros Halkias28:58

       Talking about his big fat ass.

   11. JRJoe Rogan29:00

       (laughs) There's a Trump rap song out.

   12. SHStavros Halkias29:02

       Yeah.

   13. JRJoe Rogan29:02

       There's an AI Trump rap, where Trump raps.

   14. SHStavros Halkias29:05

       Let's see... I don't like that because it's ta- it's taking jobs out of good, good, like, uh, Trump impersonators, you know what I mean? That should be-

   15. JRJoe Rogan29:13

       Hmm.

   16. SHStavros Halkias29:13

       ... that sh- that's money outta Shane's pocket.

   17. JRJoe Rogan29:15

       That's Shane Gillis'. Right. (laughs)

   18. SHStavros Halkias29:16

       You know? (laughs)

   19. JRJoe Rogan29:17

       (laughs)

   20. SHStavros Halkias29:17

       AI has gone too far.

   21. JRJoe Rogan29:19

       Yeah.

   22. SHStavros Halkias29:21

       Yeah.

   23. JRJoe Rogan29:21

       What happens with that guy?

   24. SHStavros Halkias29:23

       With who? Shane?

   25. JRJoe Rogan29:24

       Trump.

   26. SHStavros Halkias29:24

       Trump's-

   27. JRJoe Rogan29:25

       Shane's doing great.

   28. SHStavros Halkias29:26

       Shane's doing great. Shane's fucking killing it.

   29. JRJoe Rogan29:26

       Shane's great. He just bought a Mercedes.

   30. SHStavros Halkias29:27

       I know. It's fucking awesome. I went to his-
9. 29:38 – 32:11

   Comedy ecosystem at the Mothership: riff shows, premise factories, and chasing new bits

   1. SHStavros Halkias29:38

      Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Dude, he was... So I went, I, when I was here last, when I was at the Mothership, I, uh, I just, uh, I wanted to hit the pool. I was like, "Yo, Shane, let's fucking hang out." And he wasn't there. He was like, "You can just go hang out at my house." I'm the first person to ever... I was just alone in Shane's house doing fucking cannonballs into his pool, looking at his car. (laughs) I was just laying, and he was like, "Go in."

   2. JRJoe Rogan29:58

      That's awesome.

   3. SHStavros Halkias29:58

      "Feel it." (laughs)

   4. JRJoe Rogan29:59

      His h- his house is dope.

   5. SHStavros Halkias30:00

      Dude, it's out of control.

   6. JRJoe Rogan30:01

      It's very nice.

   7. SHStavros Halkias30:02

      Def-

   8. JRJoe Rogan30:02

      Beautiful place.

   9. SHStavros Halkias30:03

      Oh my God. I don't-

   10. JRJoe Rogan30:04

       I'm so happy for him. I'm so happy he's here too.

   11. SHStavros Halkias30:06

       Yeah. Nice. I mean, it makes sense.

   12. JRJoe Rogan30:07

       It's so awesome having him at the club all the time, working on new shit. It's like, "We got a great vibe there now." Oof.

   13. SHStavros Halkias30:13

       Dude, the club fucking rules, dude.

   14. JRJoe Rogan30:14

       So fun.

   15. SHStavros Halkias30:15

       It's so awesome. It really is.

   16. JRJoe Rogan30:17

       It's so fun.

   17. SHStavros Halkias30:18

       Yeah, it's nice to just pop in. You got the fucking, uh, the bottom of the barrel show's fun. You're just fucking riffing. The crowds are always good.

   18. JRJoe Rogan30:26

       Dude. Bottom of the barrel shows is literally like a factory for premises.

   19. SHStavros Halkias30:29

       Mm-hmm.

   20. JRJoe Rogan30:30

       You know, even if you can't recreate the moment, there's something-

   21. SHStavros Halkias30:33

       There's something in there.

   22. JRJoe Rogan30:34

       ... 'cause a lot of times it's like there's a crazy moment that makes you go down a certain path.

   23. SHStavros Halkias30:39

       Yeah, yeah, yeah.

   24. JRJoe Rogan30:40

       You know? So, but you have to figure out how to get to that moment.

   25. SHStavros Halkias30:43

       Yeah. Well, when you're on stage, it's like, and you're not... You're only using... It's like survival mode.

   26. JRJoe Rogan30:48

       Mm-hmm.

   27. SHStavros Halkias30:48

       So it's like you haven't pre-thought of anything and there's some deep part of your brain that just, something awesome will come out of that, like-

   28. JRJoe Rogan30:53

       Yeah.

   29. SHStavros Halkias30:54

       ... 10, 10% of the time.

   30. JRJoe Rogan30:55

       Yeah, but that's enough.
10. 32:11 – 35:17

    Stavros’ special ‘Fat Rascal’ and a long detour into porn aesthetics and censorship

    1. SHStavros Halkias32:11

       Yeah. For example, Fat Rascal on Netflix December 5th. (laughs)

    2. JRJoe Rogan32:15

       Oh my God. That comes out tomorrow.

    3. SHStavros Halkias32:17

       That comes out tomorrow. Yeah. (laughs)

    4. JRJoe Rogan32:19

       Star Wars.

    5. SHStavros Halkias32:20

       That's right. (laughs) That's Fat Rascal, shot here in the beautiful Paramount Theater.

    6. JRJoe Rogan32:24

       Great fucking theater.

    7. SHStavros Halkias32:24

       Really fucking awesome. Yeah.

    8. JRJoe Rogan32:25

       Cool old-school theater.

    9. SHStavros Halkias32:27

       Yeah, dude. It was fucking insane.

    10. JRJoe Rogan32:28

        Yeah.

    11. SHStavros Halkias32:28

        Houdini's got little fuck... Houdini's hooks are up there.

    12. JRJoe Rogan32:31

        Oh my God.

    13. SHStavros Halkias32:31

        That motherfucker was in-

    14. JRJoe Rogan32:32

        Houdini performed there?

    15. SHStavros Halkias32:32

        Yeah, yeah, yeah.

    16. JRJoe Rogan32:33

        Wow.

    17. SHStavros Halkias32:33

        No, it was crazy.

    18. JRJoe Rogan32:35

        Wow. I didn't know Houdini came to Austin.

    19. SHStavros Halkias32:37

        Houdini was out there, dude.

    20. JRJoe Rogan32:38

        Houdini hit the road like Bert Kreischer.

    21. SHStavros Halkias32:39

        Yeah. (laughs) There it is.

    22. JRJoe Rogan32:41

        Look at you.

    23. SHStavros Halkias32:41

        Fat Rascal.

    24. JRJoe Rogan32:42

        You look like Ron Jeremy there.

    25. SHStavros Halkias32:43

        Yeah. (laughs) I know.

    26. JRJoe Rogan32:44

        A little bit.

    27. SHStavros Halkias32:45

        I do.

    28. JRJoe Rogan32:45

        Right?

    29. SHStavros Halkias32:45

        I have, I have that vibe.

    30. JRJoe Rogan32:46

        Like kind of a lot.
11. 35:17 – 1:12:41

    Performative intelligence: books-as-props, e-readers, Murakami, and professor power dynamics

    1. JRJoe Rogan35:17

       When, uh, I first met Kallen, I, uh ... well, first time I ever went over to his apartment, he leaves books laying out as if he's reading them.

    2. SHStavros Halkias35:25

       Awesome. (snaps fingers) This thing, yeah.

    3. JRJoe Rogan35:25

       Like he had like Steinbeck-

    4. SHStavros Halkias35:27

       Hilarious.

    5. JRJoe Rogan35:27

       ... Of Mice and Men. And I go, "Hey, motherfucker. I know you're not reading this."

    6. SHStavros Halkias35:29

       Oh, so that's what you read in high school.

    7. JRJoe Rogan35:31

       And he looked at me like he was ... His eyebrows raised, he goes, "I do read it."

    8. SHStavros Halkias35:35

       (laughs)

    9. JRJoe Rogan35:35

       I go, "You don't, do you?" You want people to think you're interesting-

    10. SHStavros Halkias35:39

        Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

    11. JRJoe Rogan35:39

        ... so you, you leave these books out.

    12. SHStavros Halkias35:40

        Yeah. Which by the way-

    13. JRJoe Rogan35:41

        You do, right?

    14. SHStavros Halkias35:42

        Huh?

    15. JRJoe Rogan35:42

        And by people, I mean girls.

    16. SHStavros Halkias35:44

        Of course. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

    17. JRJoe Rogan35:44

        Like you want girls to think you're interesting, so you leave these books out pretending that you're like worldly.

    18. SHStavros Halkias35:48

        You know what's so funny, is that I have a, like an eReader thing, and I was reading like, you know, some book about ... Like I was reading like about Goodfellas or like, you know, some, some trashy like ... or not even trashy, but like a detective thing, and then I switched it up to like, you know, something smart on the outside, some shit about like civil rights or something like that. (laughs)

    19. JRJoe Rogan36:08

        (laughs)

    20. SHStavros Halkias36:08

        So... (laughs)

    21. JRJoe Rogan36:08

        So that people would know ... You can switch it on the outside?

    22. SHStavros Halkias36:10

        You can switch it on the outside and just fuck- ... I have done. I've, I've done that before.

    23. JRJoe Rogan36:13

        H- what does the outside look like? Like how-

    24. SHStavros Halkias36:15

        It's just, it's just like a, a screen, so I-

    25. JRJoe Rogan36:18

        There's an outside screen too?

    26. SHStavros Halkias36:19

        Yeah. Just, just the screen, right, of the eReader.

    27. JRJoe Rogan36:22

        Right.

    28. SHStavros Halkias36:22

        And it'll just show what you're reading.

    29. JRJoe Rogan36:23

        Right.

    30. SHStavros Halkias36:23

        And I was reading like, you know, like I said-

Episode duration: 2:46:18