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Joe Rogan Experience #2073 - Derek, More Plates More Dates

Derek is the fitness educator and entrepreneur behind the "More Plates, More Dates" YouTube channel, podcast and companion website. https://moreplatesmoredates.com

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Jun 27, 20243h 7mWatch on YouTube ↗

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  1. 0:00 – 15:00

    (drumbeats) Joe Rogan podcast,…

    1. NA

      (drumbeats) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out. The Joe Rogan Experience.

    2. JR

      Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. (rock music plays) How are you, man?

    3. DD

      Long time no see. How come you didn't ... over here.

    4. JR

      (laughs) Good to see you again.

    5. DD

      Yeah, you as well.

    6. JR

      (clears throat) Do you do cold plunge?

    7. DD

      Um-

    8. JR

      Or are you just talking about it?

    9. DD

      (sighs) Yeah. It's, uh, something that I, I do occasionally, but I don't have one at my place, so it's not a regular part of my routine, but I would like it to be, and I guess I could do the cold shower thing, but it's, from my under-

    10. JR

      Do you live in an apartment?

    11. DD

      Yeah. From my understanding-

    12. JR

      Yeah.

    13. DD

      ... it's not as, uh, I don't know, effective overall to like ... You wanna be fully immersed and kinda get the full experience.

    14. JR

      Yeah. It's, uh, I don't think it's as effective, but it's pretty effective, especially you live in a fucking frozen communist shithole of Canada.

    15. DD

      (laughs) Yeah, yeah.

    16. JR

      (laughs) It's cold. You get real cold water.

    17. DD

      When's the last time you've been up there? It's like-

    18. JR

      Oh, I don't go up there anymore.

    19. DD

      You refuse, right?

    20. JR

      Yeah. I just fucking ... What they've done up there, what they did with the trucker rally and what, what Trudeau's doing with guns and what they're trying to clamp down on censorship on the internet, that guy can eat shit.

    21. DD

      Hmm.

    22. JR

      Like, that, that place needs 100% an overhaul of government. Like, they're, they're sliding down that dangerous road of communism that scares the shit out of me.

    23. DD

      Yeah. I, uh ... (sighs) It's funny, 'cause even though I'm in Canada, it seems like the political ... The prevalence of political information and media is so much lesser than what goes on in the States 'cause it's just far more interesting. But even the alternatives that I'm aware of on the political, you know, side of things that are trying to, you know, get Trudeau out and replace him, not much better, from my understanding. Like, it seems like everyone's a ... Every time I go on Twitter, I see Jordan Peterson shitting on some other guy-

    24. JR

      (laughs)

    25. DD

      ... who's, like, the next best option apparently.

    26. JR

      Well, he likes that Pierre guy. What's that guy's name?

    27. DD

      (clicks tongue) I don't know.

    28. JR

      Pierre Poilievre? What is his name? There's the, the, the guy who's the reasonable Republican-type character or Conservative character. What is the-

    29. NA

      Yeah, I think he said it.

    30. JR

      (clicks tongue) Yeah. Pierre Poilievre. That guy is very smart.

  2. 15:00 – 30:00

    Ah. …

    1. DD

      it never really gets stale, so you're just sitting there over and over grinding through this thing with no end in sight. And the wild thing too is oftentimes I'm just playing against a computer, but I'll actually get pissed off when I lose, like I have to avenge myself and go beat the computer.

    2. JR

      Ah.

    3. DD

      So I'll be like, "I'm gonna stay here 'til I beat this fucking guy," even though it's not even a human.

    4. JR

      (laughs)

    5. DD

      And then I'll burn an hour. I'll be like-

    6. JR

      Yeah.

    7. DD

      And that was my mentally sharp, you know, one of however many hours.

    8. JR

      Well, there's so many of these games like this, and there's so many different styles of game. If you're into this style of game or if you're into, like, Half-Life. You ever, you ever play Half-Life?

    9. DD

      Heard of it, seen it, never played it, though.

    10. JR

      It's a game about, like some science experiment gone wrong that opens up some portal and aliens come out and you gotta fight 'em, and it's, it's in this laboratory and it's... And it's, these games are so immersive. They're just, they're just so... It's like you're playing a movie that you're participating in-

    11. DD

      Yeah.

    12. JR

      ... with insane graphics, and they're, they're really well mapped out and planned out and they make them really challenging and exciting, and... If you're a person that's into those things, like you don't... Fuck all your free time, it's gone.

    13. DD

      Yeah.

    14. JR

      It's gone.

    15. DD

      There's a lot of people that make good livings out of it, which is the crazy thing though.

    16. JR

      I know, that's what's weird now.

    17. DD

      So it's like how... It's almost hard, I don't even know what it would be like as a parent to argue with your kid about if it's a good use of time or not.

    18. JR

      Right.

    19. DD

      'Cause it's like the kid could be like, "I'm making more money than every other fucking kid in my class."

    20. JR

      Yeah, might, they might be making more money than their parents.

    21. DD

      Yeah, literally.

    22. JR

      Yeah, if your dad is something, "Well you gotta get a job, son."

    23. DD

      "Wait, have you seen how many Twitch subscribers I have?"

    24. JR

      Yeah. Well, yeah, you could... If you become popular and play games online, you can make a substantial living. So like if your kid was playing golf, and the kid said, uh, "I wanna be a professional golfer," you're like, "Well, are you winning tournaments? Do you, do you have a chance here? Like maybe this is a good career path for you, Johnny."

    25. DD

      Yeah.

    26. JR

      But no parent wants to go, "What the, what the fuck are you doing? League of Legends?"

    27. DD

      (laughs) Yeah.

    28. JR

      "You're a Le- My son's a League of Legends player on Twitch." "What?"

    29. DD

      Yeah.

    30. JR

      "Oh, what did you do?"

  3. 30:00 – 45:00

    Yeah. …

    1. JR

      there smoking a cigar, making fun of simps-

    2. DD

      Yeah.

    3. JR

      ... and, you know, that's very appealing to m- because it doesn't exist.

    4. DD

      Yeah.

    5. JR

      Like, if... You're never gonna see it on, on CNN or NBC or e- it's not... No mainstream media platform is ever going to tap into this wha- what is obviously a lucrative market.Young guys who don't want to be like their parents, they don't want to be like their teachers, they don't want to be like any of these people they see around them that seem neutered and potbellied and fucking depressing and, and, and talking about equity and inclusiveness and they're like, "Jesus fucking Christ." And then they see this guy and like, "Oh."

    6. DD

      Yeah.

    7. JR

      "I like that guy."

    8. DD

      Yeah.

    9. JR

      Yeah.

    10. DD

      Yeah. No, he's definitely inspired, uh, discipline and-

    11. JR

      Yeah.

    12. DD

      ... taking action and it's like a-

    13. JR

      Take responsibility for yourself.

    14. DD

      Yeah.

    15. JR

      Yeah.

    16. DD

      Yeah, so...

    17. JR

      I mean, it's like a, uh, a more problematic version of like what Jocko does, or did.

    18. DD

      (laughs)

    19. JR

      You know what I mean?

    20. DD

      Yeah, yeah.

    21. JR

      But it's, it's also... It's different, you know, because it's like, you know, he's in the... He really is in the pimp and hoes business. (laughs) I mean, it's like if you're running campsites like that-

    22. DD

      Yeah.

    23. JR

      ... you're really, you know, farming those girls out to make shitloads of money for you.

    24. DD

      Yeah.

    25. JR

      For a bunch of suckers.

    26. DD

      I can't even imagine what the life of a OnlyFans manager or something would be.

    27. JR

      Blows raspberry ] There's got to be a lot of them.

    28. DD

      Oh, for sure.

    29. JR

      I would assume.

    30. DD

      Yeah.

  4. 45:00 – 1:00:00

    Yeah. …

    1. JR

      and you don't have to go to prison?

    2. DD

      Yeah.

    3. JR

      That's gotta be unique to where she is, I would think, right?

    4. DD

      Yeah, I think in America, they try to make an example of people, especially famous people. "Hey, kids-"

    5. JR

      Yeah.

    6. DD

      "... pay your fucking taxes. The IRS does not fuck around." Yeah.

    7. JR

      And it's a ... They're a shady institution. They, they go after you.

    8. DD

      Yeah. Yeah. Have you ever had a, a situation that was like, "Fuck, I need to get an accountant." Like you-

    9. JR

      No.

    10. DD

      Usually there's some sort of ... Like from day one, you're pretty dialed in on your-

    11. JR

      I've had a business manager for 25 years.

    12. DD

      Oh, damn.

    13. JR

      Yeah, luckily.

    14. DD

      Yeah, I've always wondered how you oversee so much stuff, or if you just have, like how you built the team under you to oversee everything.

    15. JR

      Yeah, you have to have people. You have to have real people that really know what the fuck they're doing, that do this for a lot of other, you know, high-income people.

    16. DD

      Yeah.

    17. JR

      Yeah, they, they know what they're doing. They, they make sure you pay all your fucking taxes, and you don't have to think about it, and you don't ... That is the last place you wanna be is in the hole to the government.

    18. DD

      Hm.

    19. JR

      That's a sc- When you're in the hold of the IRS, they start auditing you and find out you've been lying about this, or, you know, maybe you've been deducting things you can't deduct, like (imitates drilling sounds) .

    20. DD

      Hm.

    21. JR

      (laughs) They start going up your ass with a microscope.

    22. DD

      Yeah.

    23. JR

      It's not good. And if they find out that you did willfully not pay taxes, like Snipes, they fucking put you in jail, man, and they, they do it to make an example out of you. Because if you're a famous person like, you know, Lauryn Hill or someone like that, how long did she go away for? I think she did a year.

    24. DD

      Oh, geez.

    25. JR

      Yeah, it's crazy, man. They'll take fucking superstars. And I don't know what her deal was, if it was a similar situation where someone had told her she doesn't have to pay taxes. 'Cause like you would think that people that are making millions of dollars, well, you'd, you have to have some sophisticated people around you, but that's not the case.

    26. DD

      No.

    27. JR

      It's like-

    28. DD

      Often not.

    29. JR

      Here it is. "Federal judges sentence Lauryn Hill to three months in prison and three more in house arrest for failing to pay taxes on close to a million dollars in earnings."

    30. DD

      Damn.

  5. 1:00:00 – 1:13:01

    Hmm. …

    1. JR

      of out of align now.

    2. DD

      Hmm.

    3. JR

      And then your back is one stiff rod because everything's fused. It's fucked. But The Rock's avoided all that. Like, he's in pretty good cond... He's not that mobile. Like, we had him doing, like, windmills. You know what a windmill is? You clean, press with a kettlebell, and then you go down like this with your hand all the way down to the ground-

    4. DD

      Okay.

    5. JR

      ... and then all the way back up.

    6. DD

      Yeah, yeah, yeah.

    7. JR

      That was a struggle for him.

    8. DD

      Oh, I'm... He's pretty tall too-

    9. JR

      Yeah.

    10. DD

      ... I can imagine.

    11. JR

      He's, he's a huge dude.

    12. DD

      Yeah.

    13. JR

      But he's just... He's doing mostly, like, bench press, squats. He's doing things with machines, leg curls, leg extensions. I think he does a lot of machine stuff, which is probably the safest way to do that shit.

    14. DD

      Does he usually train on his own with no-

    15. JR

      Yeah.

    16. DD

      ... workout partner?

    17. JR

      Yeah, he does. Yeah.

    18. DD

      Seems like every video, he's, like, in a gym that's, like, been propped up somewhere.

    19. JR

      Mm-hmm.

    20. DD

      And it's still, like, all the equipment is there, but there's no one there-

    21. JR

      Yeah.

    22. DD

      ... and it's like a mobile facility, I guess.

    23. JR

      Yeah. That's, that's what he does. I mean, he has that, and then he has this enormous, uh, place at his house. Yeah, so it's all s-... Uh, see it? It's all machines. I mean, he does have some dumbbells, but the vast majority of what he's utilizing is, you know, machines, which...... you know, you really can't get strong and you really can't get big with those.

    24. DD

      Yeah.

    25. JR

      But what those things don't seem to do is allow for coordination through use of movement that would give you functional strength.

    26. DD

      Yeah, yeah. A lot of it is, uh, you become very limited in your ability to do actual athletic-

    27. JR

      Yeah.

    28. DD

      ... maneuvers too. Like, even when I first started bodybuilding, I was teaching swimming lessons and was a lifeguard, and I would go to... I had to teach the kids certain, uh, different kinds of strokes and whatnot, and my backstroke in particular, the mobility of my shoulder and actually being able to get it past my ear even, it was like I was, like, smashing my head with my delt.

    29. JR

      Oh.

    30. DD

      And I, I couldn't even, like, keep a straight arm because I was so inflexible. And it was, uh, that was the first time I noticed, "Damn, this is really limiting."

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