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150 min read · 30,000 words- 0:00 – 3:47
Tim Dillon’s “Finnish raccoon” fur coat and the raccoon-dog reveal
- NANarrator
(drumming music plays) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out!
The Joe Rogan Experience.
- JRJoe Rogan
Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. (rock music plays) And we're up, let's go Tim Dillon.
- TDTim Dillon
How are you, sir?
- JRJoe Rogan
I'm good now, looking at that coat.
- TDTim Dillon
Thank you for having me.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- TDTim Dillon
It's raccoon. I went to a furrier in New York and two little old Jewish guys, and they go, "We don't have anything in your size, uh, like sable or chinchilla or any of the high end." But then one of the little guys goes, "We may have a raccoon in the back."
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- TDTim Dillon
And he (laughs) , and he came out with this. And this is a raccoon, but he was explaining it's from Finland.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh.
- TDTim Dillon
Like these raccoons are Finnish.
- JRJoe Rogan
Is that the actual color of their fur or did they dye that?
- TDTim Dillon
I think the-
- JRJoe Rogan
Because it's like a blond, almost like a grizzly bear.
- TDTim Dillon
I think the raccoons in Finland are, are have different colors, perhaps.
- JRJoe Rogan
Hm, let's google that.
- TDTim Dillon
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
What does a raccoon look like in Finland? Is that a different animal? What do they call them? They call them dumpster dogs or something like that?
- TDTim Dillon
Um, trash pandas.
- JRJoe Rogan
Trash pandas, that's it. Yeah.
- TDTim Dillon
You know? And, uh, listen, I like a raccoon too, but I also like fur. I think people should be allowed to wear fur.
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, it is weird that you're allowed-
- TDTim Dillon
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
... to kill animals and eat them.
- NANarrator
Why do they call it a raccoon dog?
- JRJoe Rogan
Ah.
- NANarrator
I've never heard of that.
- TDTim Dillon
Oh, so it is, it is kind of similar to, to the, to the coat I have.
- NANarrator
I typed in Finland raccoon, and it just keeps saying raccoon dog.
- 3:47 – 9:05
Fur vs. leather ethics, luxury signaling, and factory farming reality
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, yeah, they don't like it. But it's also weird, like, you're allowed to wear leather.
- TDTim Dillon
Right.
- JRJoe Rogan
Like, what is leather? If you're wea- Leather is everywhere. Everybody wears leather.
- TDTim Dillon
It's in cars.
- JRJoe Rogan
Leather is just the fur removed. That's all it is.
- TDTim Dillon
Right.
- JRJoe Rogan
Like, uh-
- TDTim Dillon
Crocodile scales.
- JRJoe Rogan
There's a company called Origin and, uh, one of the elk that I shot, we took the hide and had the hide shipped to them. They're going to turn it into boots.
- TDTim Dillon
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
It's a good use of leather.
- TDTim Dillon
Of course.
- JRJoe Rogan
But that's normal. Nobody gets, nobody gets freaked out if they see you with leather boots on.
- TDTim Dillon
Well, wasn't this the entire-
- JRJoe Rogan
Everybody has leather boots on.
- TDTim Dillon
... I mean, you know more than me, but the, the Native Americans who respected the, you know, the, the animals and the environment, it was all about utilizing every part of the animal.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, they used everything they could.
- TDTim Dillon
Right.
- JRJoe Rogan
And they lived in harmony with them.
- TDTim Dillon
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Like, you know, especially like some, some of these Native American tribes had these relationships where they were migratory with the animals.
- TDTim Dillon
Right.
- JRJoe Rogan
Like, like buffalo in the Comanche. They followed them around, man. And they, they used all their... They eat blankets, they'd... All sorts of things.
- TDTim Dillon
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Th- Their teepees, everything. Like...
- TDTim Dillon
So to me, I don't understand where it became, uh, you know, so controversial.
- JRJoe Rogan
Because it's, uh, it's really rich people flaunting that they can go have someone murder a mink for them.
- TDTim Dillon
Right.
- JRJoe Rogan
And you're wearing this thing and you've got all these diamonds and you're walking in fabulous.
- TDTim Dillon
Right.
- 9:05 – 12:10
Gilded Age inequality to billionaire space tourism (and carbon hypocrisy)
- TDTim Dillon
Well, what's funny is, like, there's this show on HBO called The Gilded Age, and it's about all these really, you know, like, the robber barons, like, the industrialists-
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm-hmm.
- TDTim Dillon
And, like, they all had these massive staffs of people that would just make them dinners every night.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- TDTim Dillon
Just cra- it was crazy, like-
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- TDTim Dillon
... they had entire staffs of, like, usually Irish chefs, and cooks, and waiters, and everything, just to facilitate the meal.
- JRJoe Rogan
Wow.
- TDTim Dillon
The daily meal. Like, it was very royal and regal, and they would have people just there cooking for them, and making their food, and it was, it's interesting to watch, because-
- JRJoe Rogan
The haves and the have-nots back then. What a gap.
- TDTim Dillon
Back then, it was wild. Like, people say it's wild now, and it is wild now, because a lot of the haves now can take a spaceship and, and, you know-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- TDTim Dillon
... take a blunt drive around the globe.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. (laughs)
- TDTim Dillon
That's wild.
- JRJoe Rogan
How much carbon does that burn off into the atmosphere?
- TDTim Dillon
I don't know.
- JRJoe Rogan
I mean, if you wanna talk about-
- TDTim Dillon
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
... some of the most ridiculous-
- TDTim Dillon
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
... excesses of carbon use- (laughs)
- TDTim Dillon
Yeah, it's- (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
... like shooting rich people into orbit.
- TDTim Dillon
(laughs) Yes. Probably.
- JRJoe Rogan
That's so nuts.
- TDTim Dillon
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
That must be so much gas.
- TDTim Dillon
It's so nuts. But like anything else, right, they'll say, "Well, it's good for, uh, I guess, the, uh, i- it incentivizes people to care about space exploration."
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- 12:10 – 16:04
Asteroids, cosmic time scales, and why humanity’s timeline is “nothing”
- JRJoe Rogan
I think we have to realize that time does not give a fuck about the human race.
- TDTim Dillon
Right.
- JRJoe Rogan
Time doesn't care. If w- we got hit by an asteroid and this whole planet got knocked back down into the Jurassic Period again-
- TDTim Dillon
Right.
- JRJoe Rogan
... that totally could happen. It's happened before. It's the reason why we're here in the first place, supposedly, right? The, the Yucatan impact. If that happens again, time doesn't care.
- TDTim Dillon
Do we-
- JRJoe Rogan
Time doesn't care.
- TDTim Dillon
Can we-
- JRJoe Rogan
We care.
- TDTim Dillon
Can we do anything to the asteroid now that we're more advanced?
- JRJoe Rogan
They are slowly but surely being able to recognize where they... The real problem, supposedly, I believe, is ones that come from, uh, n- too near the sun.
- TDTim Dillon
Right.
- JRJoe Rogan
The problem is, the gravity of the sun... I'm sure I'm fucking this up, I'm sorry. Uh, I think the gravity of the sun, the mass of the sun is so immense that it's difficult to see objects that are behind it coming towards us. So, if something's passing the sun and going towards us, we might not see it until it's too late to do anything about it. And then, even if we do see it, there's only a few different methods that they've devised that seem to, like... One of them is you, like, hit it with a surface, like something lands on it. And this changing of the aerodynamics of it, like, changes its trajectory-
- TDTim Dillon
Right.
- JRJoe Rogan
... in some way. And another one is breaking it up. The breaking it up one scares people, though, because they're like, "Well, what if you break it up into many pieces that you c- just go to a bunch of different spots on Earth?" And it has the same impact, just not in one spot.
- TDTim Dillon
Right.
- JRJoe Rogan
Like, you might, you might actually... Maybe it would have landed in the ocean and most people would survive.
- TDTim Dillon
It's amazing that nothing... We haven't had a really... and you, you might know more than I do, but we haven't had a really, like, destructive asteroid impact in a, in a long time.
- JRJoe Rogan
It's a timeline thing, dude.
- TDTim Dillon
Right.
- JRJoe Rogan
Our timeline is our lifetime, and it's so long for a person, and it's so nothing for space.
- TDTim Dillon
Right.
- JRJoe Rogan
It's so nothing. It literally is nothing.
- TDTim Dillon
Right.
- JRJoe Rogan
Our timeline is 100 years for a human timeline. The, the Earth is four point whatever billion years old. The universe... There's all these arguments now, the universe is even older than 13.7 billion years ago. I'm not really smart enough to understand, it's something about the forming of the galaxies, like they seemed to have formed quicker. That th- it wouldn't be possible if the Earth was only, or if the universe was only-
- TDTim Dillon
Right.
- JRJoe Rogan
... 13.7 billion years, but Brian Keating doesn't agree with it, so maybe he's right. I don't know who's right. But it's... Either way, we're 100 years of nothing. It's so quick. And if we get hit with an asteroid, and then everything starts, and it's another 65 million years from now until a new form of intelligent life arises-
- TDTim Dillon
(coughs) Right.
- JRJoe Rogan
... the, the universe doesn't care about that.
- TDTim Dillon
No, right.
- 16:04 – 23:09
Lost civilizations theory: Egyptians, the Sphinx dating debate, and missing history
- TDTim Dillon
And you think that we may have gotten to this point...
- JRJoe Rogan
I think we definitely did.
- TDTim Dillon
... where people were podcasting in ridiculous coats-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yes.
- TDTim Dillon
... and then something comes and ruins it-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- TDTim Dillon
... and then it takes billions of years to get back to that.
- JRJoe Rogan
Millions.
- TDTim Dillon
Millions to get back-
- JRJoe Rogan
Not-
- TDTim Dillon
... to that.
- JRJoe Rogan
Not really millions. I think probably whatever the Egyptians were doing, I think they were the most advanced civilization that ever existed. That's what I think. This is to-... I mean, I'm out of line here for sure. Listen, if you're an archeologist and you're pulling your hair out, I get it. But I don't think we could do what they did. I think if you just look at it for just the sheer dynamics, the volume of stone that they moved, the precision in which they built it, I really don't think we can do that. Just the symmetry of the faces of the statues is unparalleled, and they're immense. These are monstrously huge, perfectly symmetrical faces.
- TDTim Dillon
Right.
- JRJoe Rogan
Their, their temples are insanely intricate with 20 t- t- t- 20-ton gigantic stone blocks that were taken from a mountain 500 miles away.
- TDTim Dillon
Right.
- JRJoe Rogan
And no one has any idea how the fuck they got over there.
- TDTim Dillon
Nobody has any clue?
- JRJoe Rogan
No guesses.
- TDTim Dillon
Right.
- JRJoe Rogan
There's some guesses about, oh, maybe the river system was different back then. Whatever.
- TDTim Dillon
Right.
- JRJoe Rogan
How are you getting that 50-ton chunk of granite-
- TDTim Dillon
No way.
- JRJoe Rogan
... out of a fucking mountain and moving it down?
- TDTim Dillon
It's insane.
- JRJoe Rogan
Even with modern equipment, how are you getting it over the mountain?
- TDTim Dillon
So, it seems like they-
- JRJoe Rogan
You don't even have roads. What are you doing?
- TDTim Dillon
They were incredibly advanced.
- JRJoe Rogan
Incredibly advanced.
- 23:09 – 27:13
Digital life, metaverse law, and AI-generated news replacing reality
- TDTim Dillon
And every book, like, I'm reading a book now called The Di- Dimensions of a Cave, and it's basically about what will things look like when we are more fully on that digital platform.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- TDTim Dillon
Like, what constitutes a crime in the digital world?
- JRJoe Rogan
Ooh. Ooh.
- TDTim Dillon
What does war look like when everything's digital?
- JRJoe Rogan
What happens if-
- TDTim Dillon
Like-
- JRJoe Rogan
... something like Grand Theft Auto, if people get prosecuted for beating people up with bikes?
- TDTim Dillon
Well, this is what ... You know, there's, like, weird, like, ethical questions-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- TDTim Dillon
... about, like, when we're living a lot of our lives on these digital platforms.
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- TDTim Dillon
What is a crime? What is surveillance when everything's surveillance?
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- TDTim Dillon
Right? What are ... You know, what are the laws? What are the rules? What are the consequences for breaking them? Can you be cast out of that? You know, just like-
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- TDTim Dillon
... the way we debate social media. Now imagine it's even more immersive than social media. It's augmented reality, virtual reality, some form of metaverse, whatever it is. Can we, do we cast you out-
- JRJoe Rogan
Hmm.
- TDTim Dillon
... where you can't participate in this thing that everybody else is participating in? And these are interesting questions because people are saying that we'll probably get there quicker than we think.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- TDTim Dillon
You know, in the, in the space of maybe 10 years or something-... they're, they're looking at these programs and platforms and going, "Oh, there's gonna be a lot..." Like, that's why the AI battle that they had with Hollywood, it, it seems ultimately a losing battle.
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- TDTim Dillon
Like, it, it, which is, you know, not something that I love, but ultimately it seems like... Look at the trailer for the new GTA, it's pretty amazing.
- JRJoe Rogan
Amazing.
- TDTim Dillon
Imagine that even better, you know-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- TDTim Dillon
... it seems like there is gonna be a time when we're watching a show of all AI people, and enjoying it, and that's just what it is. And maybe we're even feeling like we're involved or immersed in it.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- TDTim Dillon
Maybe we're sitting there watching a guy get shot or ran over, or watching a hooker get killed, I don't know, but, you know, there's very possible we could be in the thing.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- 27:13 – 33:16
Deepfakes, doubles, and secret tech: Biden ears to stealth bombers
- JRJoe Rogan
Have you seen the, uh, Biden ear conspiracy?
- TDTim Dillon
No.
- JRJoe Rogan
The ear lobe conspiracy?
- TDTim Dillon
But I love it.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs) This is-
- TDTim Dillon
Already I love it.
- JRJoe Rogan
Uh, if you look at old-
- TDTim Dillon
That he did, put something in his ear.
- JRJoe Rogan
... photos of Biden-
- TDTim Dillon
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
... his ear lobe hangs down.
- TDTim Dillon
Ooh.
- JRJoe Rogan
As he gets older, his ear lobe is connected, which is impossible.
- TDTim Dillon
That's odd.
- JRJoe Rogan
It's impossible. Like, your ear, your ear doesn't change its position unless you get surgery.
- TDTim Dillon
So what do we think?
- JRJoe Rogan
I think he had a face lift.
- TDTim Dillon
Oh, definitely.
- JRJoe Rogan
100%, right?
- TDTim Dillon
Definitely.
- JRJoe Rogan
Which is... By the way, that doesn't work on guys. (laughs)
- TDTim Dillon
Right. No, it doesn't.
- JRJoe Rogan
It doesn't make, it doesn't make you look better.
- TDTim Dillon
It doesn't.
- JRJoe Rogan
It just makes you look weird.
- TDTim Dillon
Well, Pu-
- JRJoe Rogan
Your face is shiny.
- TDTim Dillon
Putin in Russia has different doubles.
- JRJoe Rogan
He has body doubles.
- TDTim Dillon
He has body doubles.
- 33:16 – 37:51
Foreign money in US real estate: laundering, empty luxury towers, and shell companies
- TDTim Dillon
So DeSantis, by the way, which I, I, I think this is good, he's basically... And the real estate lobby's fighting him. He went out in Florida, he's like, "We gotta make it harder for Chinese nationals to just buy property here."
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- TDTim Dillon
And then the real estate lobby's like, "Hey man, you're fucking up a good thing."
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. For them.
- TDTim Dillon
"We like making money. We like earning commission. We like..." And China's a huge buyer of US real estate. So all these real estate people, the BlackRocks, the, you know, are coming at DeSantis and going, "Hey, we can't have this. You have to let the Chinese play."
- JRJoe Rogan
It's real weird. You know, like, they're, they can buy l- property, like a certain amount of property here in areas that are like, "Hey, isn't that kind of close to a military base?" Like isn't-
- TDTim Dillon
Oh, yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Isn't that close to like-
- TDTim Dillon
Right.
- JRJoe Rogan
... infrastructure? Like what-
- TDTim Dillon
Well, they bought, they bought the Waldorf Astoria Hotel in New York City, which is where the president used to stay every time he went-
- JRJoe Rogan
Ah.
- TDTim Dillon
... to New York. They bought it. Now he stays at the New York Palace.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- TDTim Dillon
But it was just a fun thing to do. They were like, "Oh, where does the president stay?"
- JRJoe Rogan
Let's buy that.
- TDTim Dillon
"We're gonna own that."
- JRJoe Rogan
Ah.
- TDTim Dillon
And they own it. And they just flipped it to condos. They don't care. So-
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- TDTim Dillon
The, the thing is, so much of these cities, Miami, New York, LA, even Austin now, a lot of this real estate investment is foreign.
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm-hmm.
- TDTim Dillon
People that are laundering money, washing money-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yep.
- TDTim Dillon
... hiding money.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- TDTim Dillon
And that's why the prices of real estate keep going up no matter what happens. Rates go up to 8%, it's still more money.
- JRJoe Rogan
A friend of mine was telling me about this apartment building he lives in in Manhattan.
- TDTim Dillon
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
That it's just filled with empty apartments.
- 37:51 – 49:55
Ukraine aid, corruption narratives, and the ‘sports for dorks’ media cycle
- TDTim Dillon
... he had a budget for extracurricular activities, and where does that come from? It c- it's a slush fund that comes from a lot of shady dealings. This guy had no expertise in energy, he was working at b- he's a consultant for Burisma, a Ukrainian energy company. And now, we've given Ukraine... I don't know what it is, it's an insane amount of money.
- JRJoe Rogan
I think the last count was, is it $170 billion dollars? Well, how much money have we given to Ukraine?
- TDTim Dillon
And it's just interesting that that's the country that our president's son was having his little internship.
- JRJoe Rogan
It's just a coincidence, dude.
- TDTim Dillon
I know.
- JRJoe Rogan
Sometimes coincidences happen.
- TDTim Dillon
But it's, no, we ca- you know what it is? It's like I, I watch the most, the worst people in the world, the people at Beverly Hills who like scream at valets and yell at their nannies, and they're not humanitarians.
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- TDTim Dillon
Overnight, they all had Ukrainian flags.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- TDTim Dillon
It's interesting. They don't care about Darfur, the Sudan, anything going on in Africa. They don't care about any of the problems happening in countries like Yemen, but they all immediately decided, almost overnight, that the only humanitarian crisis worth caring about was the Ukraine.
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, when baseball season's over-
- TDTim Dillon
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
... we start paying attention to football.
- TDTim Dillon
That's what it is?
- JRJoe Rogan
That's what it is.
- TDTim Dillon
That's exactly what it is.
- JRJoe Rogan
That's what it is.
- TDTim Dillon
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
It's sports for dorks. "Just how much aid has the US sent to Ukraine, um, total $75.4 billion?" I don't think-
- TDTim Dillon
I think there's more.
- JRJoe Rogan
... I think that's-
- NANarrator
I know, I was gonna say more too, but this is a, a few things-
- TDTim Dillon
And you know how much of this aid disappears?
- NANarrator
... putting this together.
- JRJoe Rogan
First of all, isn't it funny that we're saying $75 billion? I think it's more.
- TDTim Dillon
I, w- we're like, "It's nothing."
- JRJoe Rogan
Like, that's a low number.
- TDTim Dillon
But how much of this aid disappears off the backs of trucks?
- NANarrator
$113 billion there, but-
- 49:55 – 59:39
From Iraq/Afghanistan disillusionment to Israel–Gaza and TikTok-era war optics
- JRJoe Rogan
What do you think changed?
- TDTim Dillon
The Iraq War. I watched it. I saw it. I was a kid. I was in high school. Friends of mine signed up for the military. RIP to some of them. A lot of them survived. Um, people watched soldiers dying every day. They watched, uh, a lot of people get rich. They watched the ten counties outside of Washington, DC become the most valuable places, you know, the biggest, you know, in terms of like net worth. They looked at all these counties around DC and they're like, "Wait, what?" We're not talking about the Hamptons or Manhattan or Malibu or, or the hill country of the Texas or whatever. We're talking about Virginia. And people watched a lot of people get rich, they watched a lot of corruption, they watched a lot of people die. And then what did we get for it? In Iraq, what did we really get? What did we get in Afghanistan? The Taliban's, they're back. They're back. We left 20 years later with nothing. So then people start going, "Okay."
- JRJoe Rogan
We didn't just leave. We armed them.
- TDTim Dillon
We armed them and then cowered out.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- TDTim Dillon
And then like ... So watching that, watching that whole process has, I think, disillusioned a lot of people in my generation. I'm 38 and we're looking at all this shit and we're going like, "Dude, nothing you promised us happened."
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- TDTim Dillon
We don't feel safer. It doesn't feel like we're safer because we invaded Iraq.
- JRJoe Rogan
Have you ever ent- entertained the idea that they left behind all that equipment so that the Taliban could become a threat and they would justify going back in again?
- TDTim Dillon
Oh, of course, it's a circular thing.
- JRJoe Rogan
Keep the door open.
- TDTim Dillon
It's a circular thing.
- JRJoe Rogan
Leave all options on the table.
- TDTim Dillon
Let's put them on the table. Nikki Haley will be back in there in three months.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- TDTim Dillon
She'll go in there, she'll go, "Well, the wi- you know, women, you know, and how women are being treated." 'Cause it's always a tug at your heartstrings-
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm-hmm.
- TDTim Dillon
...' 'cause we all agree that we shouldn't throw, most of us, we shouldn't throw gay people off the roof and-
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- TDTim Dillon
... we shouldn't stone women. We all agree with that, and that's the things they, they trot out.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- TDTim Dillon
They go, "You know, the women are being stoned." Meanwhile, they're letting people into America who some of them want to stone women and some of them would throw gay people off the roof. And if you question that, you're a Nazi.
- JRJoe Rogan
Do you ever see some of the photos of, uh, Kabul from like the 1970s? When it used to look like-
- TDTim Dillon
Yeah, it was fucking the spot.
- JRJoe Rogan
It was amazing.
- TDTim Dillon
It was the spot.
- JRJoe Rogan
People would go there all the time. People took-
- TDTim Dillon
Yeah, it was great.
- JRJoe Rogan
They would take vacations there.
- TDTim Dillon
Also Iran-
- 59:39 – 1:39:12
Trump, prosecutions, Epstein loose ends, and collapsing confidence in institutions
- TDTim Dillon
And he's gonna probably be the president.
- JRJoe Rogan
If he's probably... If they don't kill him.
- TDTim Dillon
He's gonna be the pres. It's gonna feel interesting when he's inaugurated 'cause it'll feel like we're living in a loop.
- JRJoe Rogan
How far do you think they would go to stop it? 'Cause it's really wild watching him being prosecuted, right?
- TDTim Dillon
Yes.
- JRJoe Rogan
It's really wild.
- TDTim Dillon
I know. For inflating the price of a condo, it's the dumbest thing ever.
- JRJoe Rogan
It's weird.
- TDTim Dillon
They were like, "He's an asset of Russia." And now they're like... Now it's, it's totally switched-
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm-hmm.
- TDTim Dillon
... to where they're like, "He said it had six bedrooms. It has five." It's like, guys, this wasn't what we were told.
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- TDTim Dillon
We, we were told he was an asset of Russia и then they switched-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- TDTim Dillon
... it up immediately to go, "Oh, he inflated the price of his real estate." By the way, everyone does that. Everyone does that.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- TDTim Dillon
E- if somebody's appraising your house, you walk up at the end and go, "You saw the basement, right?" That's woodwork that I did. Everyone does that. He does it on a grand scale because he's... has more money and more properties.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- TDTim Dillon
But the idea that that's what we're getting him for, it's hilarious.
- JRJoe Rogan
It's weird.
- TDTim Dillon
It's crazy.
- JRJoe Rogan
Because if this keeps going, like, how far will they take it? Like, if he keeps getting bigger иcause it seems like, at least in public perception-... the- the more they come after him, the bigger he gets.
- TDTim Dillon
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
'Cause the more people realize the game.
- TDTim Dillon
Right.
- JRJoe Rogan
They're like, "Oh my God, this is like banana republic shit." You're prosecuting your political opponents.
- TDTim Dillon
Yes.
- JRJoe Rogan
And you're doing it specifically to time the trials around, like, Republican conventions, primaries, all these different... You're doing it on purpose.
- TDTim Dillon
Right.
- JRJoe Rogan
It's pretty clear.
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