The Joe Rogan ExperienceJoe Rogan Experience #2078 - Duncan Trussell
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150 min read · 30,011 words- 0:00 – 15:00
Bureaucratic UFO Disclosure and Alien Tech as Possible Cover
- NANarrator
(drumbeats) Joe Rogan podcast. Check it out.
- NANarrator
The Joe Rogan Experience.
- SPSpeaker
Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night. All day. (rock music)
- DTDuncan Trussell
Are we up?
- SPSpeaker
Yeah, technically. Okay. It's not like we're supposed to be kept records by the US government.
- DTDuncan Trussell
So we can start with this.
- SPSpeaker
Sure.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- DTDuncan Trussell
Yeah, let's get right into it.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- DTDuncan Trussell
Yeah. And, you know, uh, make- if he does have first-hand knowledge that he's not allowed to say until now, that is interesting.
- JRJoe Rogan
(yawns) Yeah.
- DTDuncan Trussell
Because I do- I was also under the impression he didn't have first-hand knowledge, so he did, I guess, on the podcast say that he has some first-hand knowledge.
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm-hmm.
- DTDuncan Trussell
I- maybe I didn't catch that.
- SPSpeaker
He did say it very quick.
- DTDuncan Trussell
Yeah, he said it very quick.
- JRJoe Rogan
Hmm. You know what- you know, uh, edging? What edging is, um, of course?
- DTDuncan Trussell
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
That's what this feels like.
- DTDuncan Trussell
Mm-hmm.
- JRJoe Rogan
It feels like BDSM level-
- DTDuncan Trussell
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
... getting your cock right on the precipice of coming and then slowing down and then edging and then slowing down.
- DTDuncan Trussell
Mm-hmm.
- JRJoe Rogan
It's so frustrating. It's the- when we talked about disclosure in the old days, the dream of disclosure. No one thought it would be this, like-
- DTDuncan Trussell
Slow drip.
- JRJoe Rogan
... bureaucratic-
- DTDuncan Trussell
Right.
- JRJoe Rogan
... slow fucking drip. It's so frustrating. I d- I- I don't pay attention to it anymore.
- 15:00 – 35:00
Drones, AI Hypothesis, and the Cosmic Midwife Theory of Intelligence
- DTDuncan Trussell
says. "I've already depicted the bunny in various joyous scenarios, each more jubilant than the last. For this next attempt, I'll try to imagine a scene of unparalleled happiness, pushing the limits of whimsy and delight. Let's see how this translates visually." So he's like, "There's a rainbow and butterflies."
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- DTDuncan Trussell
"And his eyes are closed, he's in ecstasy. Happier. We've reached extraordinary levels of happiness in our bunny l- illustrations. Each one more delightful and whimsical than the last. For this next creation, I'll envision a scene that surpasses all previous in sheer joy and wonder, attempting to capture an even higher level of euphoria. Let's see how this imaginative and exuberant concept translates into an image." So it's like a bunny that is in the cosmos.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- DTDuncan Trussell
In the clouds. Everything is rainbow, there's flowers that are flying.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- DTDuncan Trussell
It looks pretty amazing. Okay, it says... Go all the way up so we can read what's up... Uh, you are not understanding. It needs to be far more happy.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- DTDuncan Trussell
Okay, so ChatGPT says, "To depict an even higher level of happiness for the bunny, surpassing all previous creations, presents a unique and imaginative challenge. This time, I'll attempt to conceive a scene of pure, unadulterated joy and wonder, aiming to go beyond any conventional boundaries of happiness and bliss. Let's see thus, how this ultimate vision of joy is illustrated." And it's a bunny, again, even more trippy in the clouds. You see reflections in his eyes. He's flying in the air. There's, looks like there's, is that an angel over his right shoulder there?
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, there's angel-
- DTDuncan Trussell
Some sort of wing-
- JRJoe Rogan
... wings, mushrooms.
- DTDuncan Trussell
... thing. Yeah. Mushrooms f- in the background, which is interesting.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- DTDuncan Trussell
Th- that's very interesting that ChatGPT chose mushrooms when you started asking it about-
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- DTDuncan Trussell
... happiness. Okay, one more. Okay. So...
- SPSpeaker
Oh, goddammit.
- JRJoe Rogan
I do that shit all the time, man.
- DTDuncan Trussell
Okay, it's okay. So what did he say to it?
- SPSpeaker
It didn't say.
- DTDuncan Trussell
Oh, it didn't. "Here's an image of a bunny representing a form of joy that surpasses the concept of happiness, a level of bliss as it expands beyond all universes and matter." So now this is a cosmic one. So this bunny has its eyes closed and there's a glowing light above its head and planets surrounding it and it looks very, very happy. Next one.
- SPSpeaker
Hmm.
- DTDuncan Trussell
Okay. "Here's an image of an entity that transcends the form of a rabbit, embodying a happiness so vast and powerful, it permeates all dimensions and universes."
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- DTDuncan Trussell
Yo. That's wild. But go one more.
- SPSpeaker
Really?
- DTDuncan Trussell
Yeah. "Here's an image of a bunny transcending into a physical form of boundless happiness, evolving into the purest embodiment of joy." One more please. (coughs) Look at this one.
- JRJoe Rogan
God.
- DTDuncan Trussell
This is the end. "Here is the image of an entity that embodies the ultimate form of happiness, transcending all known beings and concepts. This entity is the very essence of happiness, the only existing being and the defining force of all existence."
- 35:00 – 48:20
AI’s Spiritual Imagery: The ‘Final Bunny’ and Instant Literary Mimicry
- DTDuncan Trussell
killing their endocrine systems.
- JRJoe Rogan
Dude, that's so-
- DTDuncan Trussell
And they also can't get away from it.
- JRJoe Rogan
It is hilarious when somebody is, like, bugling out about the depopulation agenda-
- DTDuncan Trussell
Mm-hmm.
- JRJoe Rogan
... while drinking out of plastic.
- DTDuncan Trussell
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
You know what I mean? It's like, "What are you doing?"
- DTDuncan Trussell
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
You're just eating Oreos-
- DTDuncan Trussell
Yes.
- JRJoe Rogan
... drinking Big Gulps out of plastic. I mean, like, they're, they're-
- DTDuncan Trussell
Right.
- JRJoe Rogan
... the chemtrails. They're doing chemtrails to-
- DTDuncan Trussell
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
... depopulate us. It's like, dude, they don't-
- DTDuncan Trussell
You're doing chemtrails to yourself.
- JRJoe Rogan
You're fucking drinking chemtrails every goddamn day.
- DTDuncan Trussell
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
Slurping back cam- chemtrails.
- DTDuncan Trussell
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. I mean, to me, this is ... In the conspiracy world, when the idea of Project Blue Beam-
- DTDuncan Trussell
Uh-huh.
- JRJoe Rogan
... or, "They're going to distract us to do New World Order. They're gonna distract us to depopulate." It's just like, they, they don't have to do anything. Y- We're depopulating ourselves by what we eat.
- DTDuncan Trussell
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Like, it's ... They don't really need to, like, do much, except maybe make, like, a, a better, like, Oreo. Like-
- DTDuncan Trussell
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
That's it. Just make it a-
- DTDuncan Trussell
Make it a little more addictive.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, a little more addictive. Like-
- 48:20 – 1:03:20
Winter Is Coming: Strong AI, Cultural Amnesia, and Covert Influence
- DTDuncan Trussell
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, I was on- I mean, only... Five each set, but, you know, this is going from zero to five.
- DTDuncan Trussell
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
And I told you, I dreamed. Like, last week, I dreamed. I, uh, about doing pull-ups. And, like, it was, uh, like, this is how far away I've been from doing pull-ups that I'm dreaming it, and I wake up, I'm like, "Oh, just a dream."
- DTDuncan Trussell
Hmm.
- JRJoe Rogan
So it was really wild to, like, so I was like, "Fuck, I can do pull-ups now? This is crazy." But I lost a lot of weight. When I was super fat, that was a big part of it, man. When you're overweight, like, you, pull-ups obviously are gonna be more difficult.
- DTDuncan Trussell
When I have more time, I do it different and, uh, I was doing it different than I'm doing it now when I do the pull-up thing. So my body weight routine is I do, uh, 10 chin-ups, 20 dips, and then usually I do, uh, 20 pull-ups with, um...... uh, or whatever the ones they are. I don't know what you would call them, but it's got a bar where your hands are, uh, facing ... Like, if you put your hands together, like you're clapping, and then you separate them and grip. That, and they're in that position. And so, and then I, I do what's called an L chin-up. So you, you hold your feet out, like so your body's-
- JRJoe Rogan
Crazy.
- DTDuncan Trussell
... in the L position, so you're working your abs and you're doing this chin-up. I generally do that, too. But, uh, what I was doing is the sets of 10 of those, 10 chin-ups, 20 dips, and 10 ... But it's ... When I get to 10, like 10 is like the, it's like a struggle. Like, I probably could do ... I don't know how many I can do in a row, like full ones all the way down. But I know I can do five easy. So if I do 10 sets of five, it's easier.
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- DTDuncan Trussell
You know, I can get 50 in pretty easy.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- DTDuncan Trussell
It's not hard to do. So you take the, you do ... Like when, um, Cameron Hanes's son broke the world chin-up record, he, he did f- 8,100 chin-ups in 24 hours. Um, he did f- sets of five. So you do five, and then you stop.
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, do-
- DTDuncan Trussell
And then you wait a minute and do another five, and then you stop, and then you wait a minute. And if you do that, like five is not hard to do if you can do 10, you know?
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- DTDuncan Trussell
Or if you can do 15. So you could bang out five pretty easy. And then, over the course of the workout, you get the same amount of reps, but you don't burn out.
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- DTDuncan Trussell
Right? That's like the Russian way to do it.
- JRJoe Rogan
Russian?
- DTDuncan Trussell
Yes. That's the, the way the, the, like, um, the kettlebell gurus, like guys like Pavel Tsatsouline, w- what their thing is about ... This, this is the concept behind, and I'm, I'm pro- paraphrasing it, probably butchering it, but strong first. And the idea is that strength, whether it's chin-ups or kettlebell routines, is a skill, and that you don't want to do a skill when you're tired. And the, the way to get stronger and, and get all the work in, is have much longer workouts with much more time in between sets.
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- DTDuncan Trussell
So what you would do is you would do ... So like if you do 10 cleans and presses, instead of 10 you would do five. And you do five, and then you wait a long time-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- DTDuncan Trussell
... like five minutes, and then you do another five.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- DTDuncan Trussell
And then you wait a long time.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- DTDuncan Trussell
And then you do another five. And so every time you do it, you're fresh.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- 1:03:20 – 1:11:40
Project Blue Beam, Media Distraction, and Strategic Manipulation
- DTDuncan Trussell
Wow.
- JRJoe Rogan
Depersonalization, anxiety, derealization, and visual hallucinations.
- DTDuncan Trussell
I wonder if that hydroxychloroquine shit they were given people at the beginning of COVID did that.
- JRJoe Rogan
I was wondering that when I heard about it. Like, what is that gonna do to people?
- DTDuncan Trussell
Is hydroxychloroquine what they use for, um, malaria as well? B- uh, put hydroxychloroquine, 'cause all, hydroxychloroquine is like, it became connected inexorably to COVID misinformation.
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- DTDuncan Trussell
Right? Donald Trump, you're a Trumper, you're a MAGA supporter, hydroxychloroquine doesn't work. It became, like, locked into that, which is really interesting. So, it's immunosuppressive drug, an antiparasite. It can treat and prevent malaria.
- JRJoe Rogan
It does this-
- DTDuncan Trussell
So, it's for malaria. Um, it can also treat lupus and arthritis. Whoa.
- JRJoe Rogan
That's cool.
- DTDuncan Trussell
Mea- yeah, but meanwhile, it's fucking MAGA. "It's a MAGA drug." Isn't it wild that a drug can get labeled as, like, a foolish drug to take? Like, if you told people today that you're taking ivermectin, they'd be like, "What the fuck is wrong with you? Why would you take that?"
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, that was a whole, i- i- you know-
- DTDuncan Trussell
"You're not a horse. Come on, y'all."
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- DTDuncan Trussell
"Get your shit together."
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- DTDuncan Trussell
Remember that?
- JRJoe Rogan
It, dude, I tr- listen, as, uh, a former fan of ketamine, I would always get offended, 'cause people were like, "Isn't that a horse tranquilizer?" And you wanna be like, "No!"
- DTDuncan Trussell
No, it's a cat tranquilizer.
- JRJoe Rogan
Exactly. But it's like-
- DTDuncan Trussell
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
... first of all, if you do get the, uh, the animal anesthe- uh, ketamine, mwah.
- DTDuncan Trussell
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
Wait. 'Cause they don't give a, they don't give a fuck about the animals.
- DTDuncan Trussell
(laughs) So they give you the real shit.
- JRJoe Rogan
Like, the human stuff is less psychedelic. The cat-
- DTDuncan Trussell
Oh.
- JRJoe Rogan
The cat shit, they're like, "I don't care if you trip out. It's a fucking cat."
- DTDuncan Trussell
(laughs) Imagine your cat just fucking tripping balls while-
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh.
- 1:11:40 – 1:25:00
January 6th, Feds, and The System’s Predictable Bite
- JRJoe Rogan
dude, mood swings. I was having these fucking mood swings, and-
- DTDuncan Trussell
Taking insulin spikes. Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
And, and, and insulin spikes.
- DTDuncan Trussell
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
But I'm thinking, "Ah, seasonal affective disorder, maybe some, like, undiagnosed mania," you know, I, I, like the, I guess this is just, "Ope, I'm in one of those moods again." Now that I've been, like, taking my fucking blood sugar, I know it, this level, this is what I feel like, and I can tell when it's up just by, like, how I start feeling.
- DTDuncan Trussell
Mm-hmm.
- JRJoe Rogan
And so yeah, the vaping story, I keep thinking of Tony Hinchcliffe relentlessly roasting me for ear beating people about my diabetes. I don't wanna do it much longer. He's like-
- DTDuncan Trussell
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
... he's so, I love it when he starts fucking, "Tell us more about your diabetes." (laughs) Uh, but yeah, uh, so yeah, I, um, uh, went on a family trip where I, I was vaping, like, much less than I do. And suddenly my blood sugar starts leveling out. Like, I would wake up, which is the important number, when you wake up, your fasting blood sugar will be like no- non-diabetic normal. Get back to Austin, and then 'cause I'm in my studio, start vaping like an idiot again, and all of a sudden the blood sugar starts getting fucking weird. And you know, I'm thinking like, "What did I eat?" Like, "What have I put in my body?" 'Cause I've just, I've cut out all sugar. Like, what is it? Is it like, what's getting into me that, is it the milk that I've, I put creamer in my coffee? I'm so dumb. (laughs)
- DTDuncan Trussell
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
I'm like, "Smoking cherry Cola vapes?"
- DTDuncan Trussell
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
"What could it be? What could be the culprit behind this?" And then yeah, so like, I quit vaping, and yeah.
- DTDuncan Trussell
So we found out today, we Googled it today-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- DTDuncan Trussell
... that, uh, a lot of these vapes have sugar in them, and, uh-
- JRJoe Rogan
Shocker.
- DTDuncan Trussell
S- uh, alcohol sugar, or sugar alcohol.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, I mean, it, uh, totally like, totally fu- I mean, it's, but, you know, again, it's like...... yeah.
- DTDuncan Trussell
Of course.
- JRJoe Rogan
They're bad for you.
- DTDuncan Trussell
Also, they have flavor. Like, what do you think that flavor's made out of?
- JRJoe Rogan
Think it's coming... You think they're using all natural ingredients at the vape factory?
- DTDuncan Trussell
Yeah. Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
What, what do you-
- DTDuncan Trussell
What's making that fake strawberry taste?
- JRJoe Rogan
Dude, I, I know, it's... I mean, I, it really... I was, like, honestly bummed out when I realized I was gonna have to say goodbye to my pacifier, but-
- DTDuncan Trussell
Yeah, but that pacifier is weird, because you only... It's only good the first hit or two.
- JRJoe Rogan
True.
- DTDuncan Trussell
And then something happens, and then you're just chasing this dragon that you never get.
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