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Joe Rogan Experience #2084 - Jim Breuer

Jim Breuer is a stand-up comic, actor, and host of the "Breuniverse" Podcast. Watch his comedy special "Country Boy Will Survive" on YouTube.  www.jimbreuer.com

Joe RoganhostJim BreuerguestJamie Vernonguest
Jun 27, 20243h 17mWatch on YouTube ↗

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  1. 0:002:23

    Vacation recap, scuba anxiety, and shark attacks as real-world “monsters”

    1. JR

      (drumming music plays) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out.

    2. NA

      The Joe Rogan Experience.

    3. JR

      Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. (rock music plays) Jim Breuer.

    4. JB

      What's up, baby? How are you?

    5. JR

      (laughs)

    6. JB

      It's good to see you, man.

    7. JR

      Good to see you too, my friend.

    8. JB

      You look all happy and, and refreshed.

    9. JR

      Well, I was on vacation. Yeah. So I went to the British Vi- Virgin Islands for 10 days. Just chilled, went to the beach, did some fishing, wonderful time.

    10. JB

      Do-

    11. JR

      Just relaxing, just relaxing.

    12. JB

      You scuba?

    13. JR

      Wonderful. Doed a little snorkeling, did some snorkeling. Scuba kinda freaks me out. (laughs)

    14. JB

      (laughs)

    15. JR

      I would do it, but the idea of, of relying on that tank of air, and you're breathing under water, (gasps) and you have to slowly have to make your way to the surface.

    16. JB

      (laughs)

    17. JR

      Fuck. What if something goes sideways? How long can you hold your breath? Jesus.

    18. JB

      You don't go down that far. You don't y- you just... I think you... I'm shocked you don't like scuba diving.

    19. JR

      Uh, it's not whether or not I would like it. I would absolutely love it, I'm sure. It's a whole different w- everybody I know that's done it loves it. It's a whole world.

    20. JB

      See, I'm more freaked out by what you do. If you go snorkeling and you, you smacking your, your, your feet on the water, I think-

    21. JR

      Sharks.

    22. JB

      ... sharks, they s- "Oh my God, he's fucking struggling."

    23. JR

      Yeah, yep.

    24. JB

      "I'm gonna get him."

    25. JR

      Totally-

    26. JB

      That freaks me out more.

    27. JR

      ... totally possible, and happened at a resort where Duncan was staying. It was either the week before Duncan was there, or the week after he left. I forget which one it was, but in Maui, this lady got eaten by a tiger shark right out where Duncan was swimming. He was out there at the same resort, swimming in the water. And then during the same timeframe, somebody got got.

    28. JB

      They're everywhere.

    29. JR

      They're everywhere.

    30. JB

      But... Yeah, no. I'm t- I'm not a, I'm not a snorkeling fan.

  2. 2:235:36

    Werewolves as a metaphor for propaganda, war profiteering, and elite manipulation

    1. JR

      It depends on, I w- it depends on what kind of a werewolf it is. If it's a dude who knows he's a werewolf and kinda enjoys it-

    2. JB

      Yeah? (laughs)

    3. JR

      ... you know, that guy would, like, pick people to turn in front of, you know, like, come over to your house.

    4. JB

      (laughs)

    5. JR

      You know what I mean?

    6. JB

      Yes.

    7. JR

      Like, we always assume that the werewolf is this good guy, and he gets bit and he's like, "Shit, I can't believe this. No." And then he turns into this monster. But what if he's a piece of shit? And what if he knows he's gonna be a werewolf, and so he's like, he wants to make it easy, so he just becomes your friend and hangs out with you in the house until the moon turns full. So this way, he's got you in a closed environment.

    8. JB

      That's true, and then he can starting harvesting your whole damn family.

    9. JR

      Yeah, it's easy pickings.

    10. JB

      Or he, he brings you all in one at a time.

    11. JR

      Yeah.

    12. JB

      "Ah, your family live here."

    13. JR

      He's already fucking scouted the house-

    14. JB

      Bring your dog.

    15. JR

      ... for silver bullets.

    16. JB

      Yes.

    17. JR

      "There's no silver bullets in this house. I'm good."

    18. JB

      That's cynical.

    19. JR

      Yeah.

    20. JB

      But that's a werewolf.

    21. JR

      Well, that's human beings, too, right? If you think about-

    22. JB

      No, you're right.

    23. JR

      ... someone's decision, if someone makes a decision to go to war, right? If someone makes a decision to go a- a- and think about it, they use propaganda, they'll use a false flag, they'll use misinformation, control of the media, and get a war going that isn't really necessary, and how many people die from that? Right? And so they just make this decision. They make this decision knowing that a bunch of people are gonna die that could be avoided, but if they do do it, it's gonna be very profitable, and you can justify doing it. And so they do it. That's werewolf shit, right? Is that werewolf shit?

    24. JB

      That is werewolf... You know what? That is werewolf shit.

    25. JR

      Yeah. That's the evil werewolf shit. That's the, the conniving-

    26. JB

      Right.

    27. JR

      ... manipulative, all, knowing exactly what they're doing werewolf.

    28. JB

      That stuff... Now listen, I don't-

    29. JR

      (laughs)

    30. JB

      And like I've tried... Like, I think about that a lot. I do think about that a lot, and I go, "That's, that is the purest form of evil." It's almost like when-

  3. 5:3610:59

    Libya, Gaddafi’s overthrow, and what happens when a state collapses

    1. JB

      Dude, I want to let you know, in effect, listen, this freaked me out. This freaked me out a little bit. So, uh, I used to do this, I would do this bit with fucking Muammar Gaddafi, right? Muammar Gaddafi, and it was true, he did this fake bomb thing. And everyone always say, "Ah, Muammar Gaddafi blah, blah, blah." And then I found out... 'Cause you remember growing up, that whole thing with Libya?

    2. JR

      Yeah.

    3. JB

      And you were like-... Muammar Gaddafi's fucking... He's a werewolf. He's, we gotta kill him. He shot six missiles at a US plane, and we, and we fucking bombed him. And then Clinton came in, killed him, took him out, right?

    4. JR

      Well, it was during the Obama Administration, wasn't it, that he got killed? I believe it was when Hillary Clinton was Secretary of State that they, they overthrew Libya. Was that, is that the case?

    5. JV

      I don't know. I won't... Yeah.

    6. JR

      Jamie's gonna Google it.

    7. JB

      So, I see-

    8. JV

      2011?

    9. JR

      But there was like some sh-

    10. JB

      But-

    11. JR

      There was, there's always some financial shit to these things.

    12. JB

      Well, well-

    13. JR

      It's always like trying to get off the US dollar or someone-

    14. JB

      Well-

    15. JR

      ... someone does something crafty.

    16. JB

      Well, check this out. So, um, I, you know, I see Farrakhan. You know, white people meet like, "Goddamn devil. Black guy hates white people." You know, whatever. They can't, they already write him off.

    17. JR

      Right.

    18. JB

      But I'm listening to him, and he starts talking about why they killed Muammar Gaddafi. And, and I'm t- I'm dumb as a rock. Think you know that by now. Basically, he was saying, "We're not gonna need the banking system. We're not gonna need, um, your system, your dollar. We're gonna... We, we got our own. Everyone here, educated. No homeless people. We pay for everything. We pay for medical. We share revenue, and we're gonna start uniting the whole continent." I was like, "What?" He goes, "That's why they killed him." And he goes on and on and on. Dude, on my life. So, last year, I went to Tanzania, right? And, you know, I'm talking to the people there, and I just start going, "Hey, uh..." It was me... You know Vinny Brand?

    19. JR

      Yeah.

    20. JB

      I was with Vinny Brand. Brought him on safari. Shit, dude, you gotta go. All right, so we're hanging out there, and he... The guy goes... I go, "Hey, man. Remember, um..." We're talking about a lot of things. We're talking about a lot of things going on in America, but one of the things we hit is Libya, um, Muammar Gaddafi. "What'd you think of Muammar Gaddafi?" And all of them, they were like, "Oh, he's a great African, great African, great African." I'm like, "Really?" Oh, yeah. We were told he was like this monster, this terrorist. Like we have... We, we bombed him. We were like cheering that we bombed him. And they went, "No." I said, "Why were they... Why was he so good?" He goes, "He was good to the, all the Africans. He, he, he gave us, he gave us education. He gave us water. He gave us all our needs and, and, and if we couldn't get it here and we wanted something else, we'd, we'd do it for them. He was, he's very good for Africa." I said, "What happened since he left on my kids' lives?" This guy goes, "Libya, worst sex trafficking, the worst sex trafficking." So, that fucked me up. So, now think about that. We demonize this place, and we were told one thing. I'm not saying that's not what it was. What I'm saying is like, what really happened?

    21. JR

      Well, the, w- the... First of all, the state collapsed, and when a state collapses, criminals take over. And one of the things that you saw in Libya, at one point in time... Although I did get some messages through a friend of mine, uh, that some Libyan people wanted me to know that Libya, like, uh, the cities in Libya have recovered. They're not, like, as crazy as they were. Um, you know, that might be national pride that they're saying this. I don't know. I don't know.

    22. JB

      Yeah, yeah, yeah.

    23. JR

      I, I don't know what the story is.

    24. JB

      Yeah.

    25. JR

      Maybe they're much better. Maybe they're judging it on a scale or whatever it was. But there's y-... There was YouTube videos of open-air slavery. So, you would watch people bid on people, and you could watch it on YouTube, and that was in Libya. That was after they killed Gaddafi. Did you ever see the, the video footage of them killing him?

    26. JB

      No.

    27. JR

      Oh. Oh, you have to see it.

    28. JB

      Dude.

    29. JR

      When the rebels grab hold of Gaddafi and they realize they have him, and he realizes that they have him... And there's high-resolution cameras now because this was like 2012, I believe. Is that when it was?

    30. JB

      Yeah, yeah.

  4. 10:5912:31

    Humans vs. chimps: brutality, progress, and the chaos of modern information

    1. JB

      Dude, I remember you... One time, you said, you said... You had talked about chimpanzees, like, which is... It was f-

    2. JV

      (laughs)

    3. JB

      It was really funny, but you go, "Dude, they were just chimpanzees that learned how to talk and lie." You said something like that. It was really fucking funny.

    4. JR

      I said they learned how to talk and lie?

    5. JB

      No, that... Like, where chimpanzees-

    6. JR

      Oh, who learned how to talk and lie?

    7. JB

      Yeah.

    8. JR

      Yeah.

    9. JB

      And I could be, I could be... But the point of that was, it really makes it... 'Cause we think we're so far advanced, and we're much smarter than anything.

    10. JR

      Yeah.

    11. JB

      We're, we're so much better. We're better beings. We're better souls.

    12. JR

      We are. We are. We really are.

    13. JB

      We have the capability.

    14. JR

      No, we really are. We're way better than chimps. Listen, man, if chimps had nuclear weapons-

    15. JB

      (laughs)

    16. JV

      (laughs)

    17. JR

      ... it would've been over a long time ago.

    18. JB

      I know. Now, you were... Yeah, yeah, fair enough.

    19. JR

      They wouldn't have thought about the future.

    20. JB

      (laughs)

    21. JR

      "Fuck the future. Let's nuke these cunts." They would've just nuked everybody.

    22. JB

      (laughs)

    23. JR

      Chimp- chimps are so ruthless.

    24. JB

      You're right.

    25. JR

      They are so ruthless, man. They don't give a fuck about you. They have no bad feelings. They don't have any, like, remorse for fucking people up.

    26. JB

      (laughs)

    27. JR

      Th- they would be the worst.

    28. JB

      But, but-

    29. JR

      We're way, way, way, way better, which is not good enough yet. We-

    30. JB

      But you...

  5. 12:3121:52

    Ukraine, NATO, and why people feel forced to “pick a side”

    1. JR

      And the amount of chaos that's going on constantly now is, like, unprecedented, because you don't know what the fuck is true or not. We're... Somehow or another, you and I, Jim Brewer and Joe Rogan, two guys who've known each other, were friends for 35 years, somehow or another, we have an investment in some fucking war that's happening in Russia and Ukraine, and we have to have a, we have to have a side we have to pick. We have to figure out what's true and what's not. We have to wade through all the, "How much money?" We have to go, "What?"

    2. JB

      Right.

    3. JR

      "How much money?" There's n- there's no way that you know where all that money's going. There's no way.

    4. JB

      Well, neither did I. How-

    5. JR

      'Cause it's like, that's too much money.

    6. JB

      How crazy do you have to be at this point in your life? What... Like, is there anyone walking down the street going, "We really, really gotta fucking stop Russia from killing the U- we gotta..." Like, who the fuck is still thinking that way? It's mind-boggling to me.

    7. JR

      Well, we, we can't be the policemen of the world, but we should do what we can to stop people that are doing something that's horrific. But we also shouldn't be involved in things that are violating agreements where we're, like, pushing arms closer and closer to Russia's border. Like, all these things are true. So it's just, like, all these things are true simultaneously, and everybody wants only one side to be true.

    8. JB

      Yeah. Right.

    9. JR

      That's all they want. They want their position to be correct and-

    10. JB

      And it's not.

    11. JR

      No, this, that-

    12. JB

      It's not.

    13. JR

      That Russia thing is messy. Of course it's horrible that Russia i- attacked Ukraine, but also, it's kind of fucked that NATO kept fucking with these guys and trying-

    14. JB

      It's-

    15. JR

      ... to bring them in and moving arms closer to Russia.

    16. JB

      All he says is, like, "Hey, man. I, I get you guys are got your little toys and stuff. Just do me a favor? Let's have an agreement. Don't go past here, all right?"

    17. JR

      Yeah.

    18. JB

      "You guys promise? We'll shake on it? We'll shake on it."

    19. JR

      Yeah, no one's-

    20. JB

      "You wanna sign? Let's sign."

    21. JR

      Okay.

    22. JB

      And then a month later, they're like, "Uh, dude. Why are you moving the f- I thought we agreed? We're just-"

    23. JR

      Werewolves.

    24. JB

      Werewolves.

    25. JR

      Werewolves. Werewolves.

    26. JB

      Now, you just said we're not that far off from monkeys, and then 10 minutes before that, you talked about the guy shoving a fucking..."

    27. JR

      Yeah. You know what chimps would've done to him?

    28. JB

      Dude, that's barbaric.

    29. JR

      Chimps would've been way worse.

    30. JB

      (laughs)

  6. 21:5225:43

    9/11 discourse, media pressure, and the Building 7 controversy

    1. JB

      All you could do is go on... I remember being in a pub. I was in Chester, New Jersey. I don't know how I went pub.

    2. JR

      (laughs)

    3. JB

      I don't give a fuck. What the fuck did that come from? Like, "I was in pub." (laughs)

    4. JR

      Where did that come from?

    5. JB

      So, I don't know. So I was in a pub, uh, Chester, New Jersey, and I was talking about the towers. And I, and I didn't wanna say I didn't believe. I said, "Man, I just got a lot of questions. You don't think it was weird they just pancaked straight down?" I thought that was a miracle. And then the second one I'm like, "Wait a minute. Wait a... This is..." And the reaction from that person was, "What are you? What are you? What are you, fucking one of those anti-American-" Like, he, he wanted to kill me. So what I'm saying is, you couldn't question anything at that time. If you dared question, they immediately have you-

    6. JR

      They would attack. Yeah.

    7. JB

      ... even, even, even the most popular-

    8. JR

      Even if you had a point.

    9. JB

      ... um, newscasters that people love today because they're on certain sides, they were, they were selling it hard. And to me, I never forgot that. They were selling death. They were selling murder. They were selling war. And bro, they, you couldn't question anything. They had that counterattack ready to go. And so when people go, "You're telling me this was a secret?" Yeah, man. When you control all that, that's pretty powerful when you wanna make vi- I question it and this guy wanted to fucking be violent against me. And I was just like, "I'm just..."

    10. JR

      It's crazy to be violent-

    11. JB

      You don't think it's weird?

    12. JR

      It's crazy to be violent about an opinion like that because it's not an offensive opinion. It's not an offensive... First of all, it's slightly ignorant, right? Because the thing about tower one and tower two specifically is they didn't fall like a controlled demolition at all. They fell like a building that was collapsing. But tower seven fell, fell like a building into its base. That one's extraordinary. That one's extraordinary. And that one absolutely looks like a controlled demolition. I am not saying it's a controlled demolition.

    13. JB

      No.

    14. JR

      What I am saying is, the way it collapsed, it- it went into its base just like a controlled demolition. And if you don't agree with that, then th- you're talking nonsense. If you don't agree with the fact that that looks like a controlled demolition, then we really can't talk because you're, you're dealing in fantasy world, or you're-

    15. JB

      Because it undeniably looks exactly like a controlled demolition.

    16. JR

      ... that doesn't mean it was. Uh, th- first of all, one thing that doesn't look like a controlled demolition is the top of it. You see it cave in long before the whole building collapses. So, there was a structural collapse that you can see from the video that most people aren't aware of. If you see the top of it, before the whole building comes down, see that top? See that dark s- thing in the top? That thing goes first. Now, watch how that goes. So-

    17. JB

      You want me to play it or go slow?

    18. JR

      Yeah, just play it.

    19. JB

      Okay.

    20. JR

      So, what apparently was going on, there's diesel generators-

    21. JB

      Mm-hmm.

    22. JR

      ... in that building. Now, s- see if you could play... I wanna see the thing... I think it was even before that, Jamie. I think it was a larger thing that went under first, it collapsed first. That's it.

    23. JB

      There it is.

    24. JR

      See, that's that thing in the... See that?

    25. JB

      Boom.

    26. JR

      Okay, there it goes. So, that collapses. So, this... Obviously, the internal structure's gone.

    27. JB

      Mm-hmm.

    28. JR

      So, this thing collapsing like that-

    29. JB

      Mm-hmm.

    30. JR

      ... doesn't, doesn't throw me off as much-

  7. 25:4340:29

    Government bloat, audits, and climate messaging: fear narratives vs. infrastructure realities

    1. JR

      Look, man, I lived in Boston during the time of the Big Dig. Do you remember the Big Dig?

    2. JB

      What is the Big Dig?

    3. JR

      The Big Dig (laughs) , the Big Dig was a fucking construction project that was the most construc- corrupt construction project that's ever existed. It was supposed to last like a couple years, it went on for decades. These guys milked it. They would be like working like this, dink, dink.

    4. JB

      It's like New York and, uh... Yeah.

    5. JR

      Yeah.

    6. JB

      New York and Boston, yeah.

    7. JR

      The Big Dig, it w- it was supposed to... It started in 1982 when I lived there, it ended in 2007. It was supposed to take like two years (laughs) . They just fucking milked it and a bunch of people went to jail, there's a bunch of lawsuits. Oh, yeah, fucking full on corruption.

    8. JB

      How come they don't look at, look at the LIE on Long Island? It's been under construction-

    9. JR

      Forever.

    10. JB

      ... since I was a child.

    11. JR

      Forever. Well, here's another thing. When you pay tolls, the tolls on a bridge were supposed to be-

    12. JB

      (laughs)

    13. JR

      ... to compensate for the money that it took to build the bridge.

    14. JB

      Right.

    15. JR

      But once they have all the money to build the bridge, they're like, "Fuck you, pay me. Just keep paying me."

    16. JB

      And where's that money going?

    17. JR

      "Just keep paying me." Well, it goes to the state, and then the state can make the government bigger. Wee! And we have more people (laughs) that can go after you if you don't pay!

    18. JB

      Here's another law.

    19. JR

      Pay! (imitates fart)

    20. JB

      (laughs)

    21. JR

      Do you know that more government jobs have been created, uh, over the last, I forget what the time period it was, than any other sector? Any other things going on?

    22. JB

      But, see, Joe, it's little things like this... Uh, what drives me nuts too is... You know what it is? I think people's emotions... It's just people's emotions are still with it, uh, w- they're either in denial or they don't wanna face the dark, or they picked a team and no matter what that team says, the other team is wrong. They say, "Hey, I'm an Eagles fan."

    23. JR

      Well, first of all, you have to have a lot of l- looking into things before you form a realistic perspective of what's happening. It takes a long time, man. And a lot of people don't have that time. We're lucky that we're comics and we have a lot of time.

    24. JB

      Yeah.

    25. JR

      You know?

    26. JB

      Yeah.

    27. JR

      Being a standup especially, b- you know, the podcast kind of gets in the way of that, 'cause I have to sit down and talk to people for a few hours. But-

    28. JB

      Right.

    29. JR

      ... if you're a standup for the most part, you can do whatever the fuck you want during your day.

    30. JB

      Right.

  8. 40:2948:13

    Pandemic aftershocks: mortality spikes, vaccines, and the taboo around variables

    1. JR

      When you see stories like that, like, young p- people are gonna have heart attacks due to climate change (laughs) . I've seen those. Like, yeah, yeah. Anything else?

    2. JB

      But do you just think-

    3. JR

      Does a- anything else give kids heart attacks?

    4. JB

      (laughs)

    5. JR

      Thanks for writing that article. I'll, I'll be sure to make sure that the kids get water when it gets hot out, if they're running.

    6. JB

      (laughs)

    7. JR

      Um, anything else give them heart attacks that you guys ever found? Have you been looking around? "No, nothing. Nothing over here, just, uh, climate change." Okay. So, the, like, what is the uptick in the amount of kids having heart attacks? And is it corresponding to a certain temperature rise? I- it seems like that would be, like, scientifically you could m- measure that. If there was an uptick and the temperature raised 1% and we saw a 10% increase in heart attacks amongst 18-year-olds, would that-

    8. JB

      Which is happening, right?

    9. JR

      I don't know what the number is, but I do know-

    10. JB

      It has been happening.

    11. JR

      ... the num-

    12. JB

      What the heck is that all about?

    13. JR

      ... the n- the number of deaths-

    14. JB

      Hmm.

    15. JR

      ... is what's the spooky one.

    16. JB

      Mm-hmm.

    17. JR

      Because the all-cause mortality-

    18. JB

      Mm-hmm.

    19. JR

      ... spiked way up. That's what, that's what's freaky. That's a freaky one. That's a freaky one. And, uh, you could attribute... and you have to be really fair about that. You could attribute that to a bunch of different things.

    20. JB

      Mm-hmm.

    21. JR

      First of all, you could attribute it to bad habits that people picked up during COVID. That will take up a certain percentage of them.

    22. JB

      There's a lot of that.

    23. JR

      A lot of people became alcoholics during COVID.

    24. JB

      Oh, yeah.

    25. JR

      A lot of people did. So that's a percentage. And then you have to think about a percentage of people that got COVID and got fucking wrecked.

    26. JB

      Mm-hmm.

    27. JR

      'Cause I know some people that got wrecked.

    28. JB

      Same.

    29. JR

      They got wrecked, and they were, you know, compromised after that.

    30. JB

      Mm-hmm.

  9. 48:131:11:40

    Fear, compliance, and ‘tiny encroachments’: Jordan Peterson’s tyranny model

    1. JB

      But that's what we've lost. What, what for me what COVID did was it was the la- i- it was the way the werewolves... I say it's the werewolves. The wel- the werewolves went, "This is how we really rip the families apart." And well, because everybody has fear in them.... and everyone in your family has f- every human being has fear in them. And they're testing, the more the werewolves get to test your fear factor, the stronger they become 'cause they see who buckles. They see who's gonna call.

    2. JR

      They see how many people buckle. They see how many people-

    3. JB

      They see how many people, they see who's lashing out. They see how many people wearing a mask at the airport. They s- they... so they're measuring the fear.

    4. JR

      Yeah.

    5. JB

      And, um, you know, man, I just... I pray to God it's ti- it just becomes time for the fearless. And what the fearless is, it's not a violent fight. It's just... You- you said some brilliant things. I, I remember years ago, you were talking about like, "Dude, this is the time of the truth, and t-" And it really resonated, like, yes, that's what we need in life, just, just truth, just honesty.

    6. JR

      We're, we're getting there.

    7. JB

      Just looking after each other.

    8. JR

      I think we're gonna get there.

    9. JB

      Oh, I know we're getting there.

    10. JR

      I think we're just getting there, it's just-

    11. JB

      But we gotta be aware of the w- we gotta be aware of the werewolves.

    12. JR

      Yeah. Well, we gotta be aware of the werewolves who are trying to close the gate.

    13. JB

      Yes.

    14. JR

      They're trying to close the gate before human beings, um... Without these enormous institutions, human beings have the power over the narrative, and that human beings that you trust are real. They do exist. They just don't exist in those systems, they exist independently for the most part. And they're, they're real, and they can tell you what's actually going on. It'll shock you, but it shouldn't if you understand history. Do you know the number one group of people in the beginning of the pandemic when they rolled out the vaccines, number one group that had vaccine hesitancy?

    15. JB

      Hm.

    16. JR

      PhDs.

    17. JB

      Hm.

    18. JR

      F- find that. Find that. There was an article that I was reading, I hope it's true. Um, that in the beginning, there was a lot of PhDs that were like, "Uh," because these are people that, like, understand how these studies are funded probably, or at least understand how research is done and how, uh, research is done through the pharmaceutical drug companies.

    19. JB

      Mm-hmm.

    20. JR

      So, the pharmaceutical drug companies, they do their own research. And then they don't... When, when something's peer-reviewed, it doesn't even get... They don't even get access to the raw data. They get, get access to the assessment of the data by the pharmaceutical companies. And the pharmaceutical companies can do 10 studies, and they rig their studies in a way that get the most biased results. And if eight of 'em show no benefit, but one or two of 'em shows a little bit of a benefit, then they can roll out. And then they start making... (howls)

    21. JB

      (laughs)

    22. JR

      So-

    23. JB

      (laughs)

    24. JR

      ... I think PhDs were very (laughs) aware of that system and aware of the... Also, if you're... if you understand human psychology, you're w- aware of what happens to people in a time of great angst and pressure, that they panic. And, and in every horror movie you see this, s- people fall apart. There's a... And the weaker you can make society, the more corrupted you can make society, the more decadent you can make society, the more s- society that doesn't value discipline, that doesn't value free will, that doesn't value people's independence and strength and health. Well, then you'll be able to find more suckers when the shit goes sideways. You're gonna get more pussies. You're gonna get more people that are willing to sell out their neighbors 'cause they were having a party and they weren't socially distancing.

    25. JB

      (laughs)

    26. JR

      You get a lot of fucking suckers, because it's too easy to live today. And it's t- there's two... It's, it's too... It's too easy to develop into a fully-formed adult that is made out of mush, not just mush with your body, but mush with your mind, mush with your opinions, mo- mush with your will, your will to get things done, your will to work, your discipline to get up and get things done. Those aren't frivolous things. Those aren't things that you should ever, uh, uh, equate to toxic masculinity or toxic feminine energy. N- no, those are powerful human traits, and you've been tricked. You've been tricked into thinking that weakness is a virtue. It's not. Kindness is a virtue, and kindness through strength is the most honest kindness.

    27. JB

      Mm-hmm.

    28. JR

      When Francis in Ghana is being nice to you, it's 'cause he wants to be nice to you. (laughs) You know what I'm saying?

    29. JB

      (laughs) Yes.

    30. JR

      That's a real... When he's kind, it's real kindness. They found 23.9% of the people who said they hold PhD degrees express hesitancy, the highest rate amongst the various levels of education. So, the brightest people were like, "Yeah."

  10. 1:11:401:29:28

    Bathroom break to urban history: horse manure crisis and unintended consequences of ‘progress’

    1. JR

      I gotta piss. Can we hold this?

    2. JB

      Yeah.

    3. JR

      Hold this. I gotta take a leak. We'll be right back.

    4. JB

      I gotta pee too.

    5. JR

      You ever shit in the woods?

    6. JB

      Um...

    7. JR

      It's a wild thing.

    8. JB

      Not naturally. I did it cheating.

    9. JR

      Feels normal. You know, um-

    10. JB

      I cheated.

    11. JR

      ... I was reading this thing about India. They have a problem where people don't like to use toilets. They just like to shit outside.

    12. JB

      They use their...

    13. JR

      There's certain places they just, they've been shitting outside forever-

    14. JB

      Just try to produce.

    15. JR

      ... so they, they don't like toilets.

    16. JB

      Oh.

    17. JR

      So they're building toilets and people are rejecting them.

    18. JB

      I could see that.

    19. JR

      Shitting outside is fun. In the woods-

    20. JB

      I think so. Any, any-

    21. JR

      It's the natural way to shit. It comes out so easy. It's like, "Whee."

    22. JB

      Yeah, because you're squatted down and it just-

    23. JR

      That's why they make those Squatty Potty things. You know those?

    24. JB

      Yes.

    25. JR

      You have one of those?

    26. JB

      Um, I don't.

    27. JR

      I have one. It helps.

    28. JB

      I'm sure it does.

    29. JR

      You shit easier. You're like, "Whee."

    30. JB

      I shit good, man. I wake up, pang.

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