The Joe Rogan ExperienceJoe Rogan Experience #2084 - Jim Breuer
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Vacation recap, scuba anxiety, and shark attacks as real-world “monsters”
- JRJoe Rogan
(drumming music plays) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out.
- NANarrator
The Joe Rogan Experience.
- JRJoe Rogan
Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. (rock music plays) Jim Breuer.
- JBJim Breuer
What's up, baby? How are you?
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- JBJim Breuer
It's good to see you, man.
- JRJoe Rogan
Good to see you too, my friend.
- JBJim Breuer
You look all happy and, and refreshed.
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, I was on vacation. Yeah. So I went to the British Vi- Virgin Islands for 10 days. Just chilled, went to the beach, did some fishing, wonderful time.
- JBJim Breuer
Do-
- JRJoe Rogan
Just relaxing, just relaxing.
- JBJim Breuer
You scuba?
- JRJoe Rogan
Wonderful. Doed a little snorkeling, did some snorkeling. Scuba kinda freaks me out. (laughs)
- JBJim Breuer
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
I would do it, but the idea of, of relying on that tank of air, and you're breathing under water, (gasps) and you have to slowly have to make your way to the surface.
- JBJim Breuer
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
Fuck. What if something goes sideways? How long can you hold your breath? Jesus.
- JBJim Breuer
You don't go down that far. You don't y- you just... I think you... I'm shocked you don't like scuba diving.
- JRJoe Rogan
Uh, it's not whether or not I would like it. I would absolutely love it, I'm sure. It's a whole different w- everybody I know that's done it loves it. It's a whole world.
- JBJim Breuer
See, I'm more freaked out by what you do. If you go snorkeling and you, you smacking your, your, your feet on the water, I think-
- JRJoe Rogan
Sharks.
- JBJim Breuer
... sharks, they s- "Oh my God, he's fucking struggling."
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, yep.
- JBJim Breuer
"I'm gonna get him."
- JRJoe Rogan
Totally-
- JBJim Breuer
That freaks me out more.
- JRJoe Rogan
... totally possible, and happened at a resort where Duncan was staying. It was either the week before Duncan was there, or the week after he left. I forget which one it was, but in Maui, this lady got eaten by a tiger shark right out where Duncan was swimming. He was out there at the same resort, swimming in the water. And then during the same timeframe, somebody got got.
- JBJim Breuer
They're everywhere.
- JRJoe Rogan
They're everywhere.
- JBJim Breuer
But... Yeah, no. I'm t- I'm not a, I'm not a snorkeling fan.
- 2:23 – 5:36
Werewolves as a metaphor for propaganda, war profiteering, and elite manipulation
- JRJoe Rogan
It depends on, I w- it depends on what kind of a werewolf it is. If it's a dude who knows he's a werewolf and kinda enjoys it-
- JBJim Breuer
Yeah? (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
... you know, that guy would, like, pick people to turn in front of, you know, like, come over to your house.
- JBJim Breuer
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
You know what I mean?
- JBJim Breuer
Yes.
- JRJoe Rogan
Like, we always assume that the werewolf is this good guy, and he gets bit and he's like, "Shit, I can't believe this. No." And then he turns into this monster. But what if he's a piece of shit? And what if he knows he's gonna be a werewolf, and so he's like, he wants to make it easy, so he just becomes your friend and hangs out with you in the house until the moon turns full. So this way, he's got you in a closed environment.
- JBJim Breuer
That's true, and then he can starting harvesting your whole damn family.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, it's easy pickings.
- JBJim Breuer
Or he, he brings you all in one at a time.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- JBJim Breuer
"Ah, your family live here."
- JRJoe Rogan
He's already fucking scouted the house-
- JBJim Breuer
Bring your dog.
- JRJoe Rogan
... for silver bullets.
- JBJim Breuer
Yes.
- JRJoe Rogan
"There's no silver bullets in this house. I'm good."
- JBJim Breuer
That's cynical.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- JBJim Breuer
But that's a werewolf.
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, that's human beings, too, right? If you think about-
- JBJim Breuer
No, you're right.
- JRJoe Rogan
... someone's decision, if someone makes a decision to go to war, right? If someone makes a decision to go a- a- and think about it, they use propaganda, they'll use a false flag, they'll use misinformation, control of the media, and get a war going that isn't really necessary, and how many people die from that? Right? And so they just make this decision. They make this decision knowing that a bunch of people are gonna die that could be avoided, but if they do do it, it's gonna be very profitable, and you can justify doing it. And so they do it. That's werewolf shit, right? Is that werewolf shit?
- JBJim Breuer
That is werewolf... You know what? That is werewolf shit.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. That's the evil werewolf shit. That's the, the conniving-
- JBJim Breuer
Right.
- JRJoe Rogan
... manipulative, all, knowing exactly what they're doing werewolf.
- JBJim Breuer
That stuff... Now listen, I don't-
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- JBJim Breuer
And like I've tried... Like, I think about that a lot. I do think about that a lot, and I go, "That's, that is the purest form of evil." It's almost like when-
- 5:36 – 10:59
Libya, Gaddafi’s overthrow, and what happens when a state collapses
- JBJim Breuer
Dude, I want to let you know, in effect, listen, this freaked me out. This freaked me out a little bit. So, uh, I used to do this, I would do this bit with fucking Muammar Gaddafi, right? Muammar Gaddafi, and it was true, he did this fake bomb thing. And everyone always say, "Ah, Muammar Gaddafi blah, blah, blah." And then I found out... 'Cause you remember growing up, that whole thing with Libya?
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- JBJim Breuer
And you were like-... Muammar Gaddafi's fucking... He's a werewolf. He's, we gotta kill him. He shot six missiles at a US plane, and we, and we fucking bombed him. And then Clinton came in, killed him, took him out, right?
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, it was during the Obama Administration, wasn't it, that he got killed? I believe it was when Hillary Clinton was Secretary of State that they, they overthrew Libya. Was that, is that the case?
- JVJamie Vernon
I don't know. I won't... Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Jamie's gonna Google it.
- JBJim Breuer
So, I see-
- JVJamie Vernon
2011?
- JRJoe Rogan
But there was like some sh-
- JBJim Breuer
But-
- JRJoe Rogan
There was, there's always some financial shit to these things.
- JBJim Breuer
Well, well-
- JRJoe Rogan
It's always like trying to get off the US dollar or someone-
- JBJim Breuer
Well-
- JRJoe Rogan
... someone does something crafty.
- JBJim Breuer
Well, check this out. So, um, I, you know, I see Farrakhan. You know, white people meet like, "Goddamn devil. Black guy hates white people." You know, whatever. They can't, they already write him off.
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- JBJim Breuer
But I'm listening to him, and he starts talking about why they killed Muammar Gaddafi. And, and I'm t- I'm dumb as a rock. Think you know that by now. Basically, he was saying, "We're not gonna need the banking system. We're not gonna need, um, your system, your dollar. We're gonna... We, we got our own. Everyone here, educated. No homeless people. We pay for everything. We pay for medical. We share revenue, and we're gonna start uniting the whole continent." I was like, "What?" He goes, "That's why they killed him." And he goes on and on and on. Dude, on my life. So, last year, I went to Tanzania, right? And, you know, I'm talking to the people there, and I just start going, "Hey, uh..." It was me... You know Vinny Brand?
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- JBJim Breuer
I was with Vinny Brand. Brought him on safari. Shit, dude, you gotta go. All right, so we're hanging out there, and he... The guy goes... I go, "Hey, man. Remember, um..." We're talking about a lot of things. We're talking about a lot of things going on in America, but one of the things we hit is Libya, um, Muammar Gaddafi. "What'd you think of Muammar Gaddafi?" And all of them, they were like, "Oh, he's a great African, great African, great African." I'm like, "Really?" Oh, yeah. We were told he was like this monster, this terrorist. Like we have... We, we bombed him. We were like cheering that we bombed him. And they went, "No." I said, "Why were they... Why was he so good?" He goes, "He was good to the, all the Africans. He, he, he gave us, he gave us education. He gave us water. He gave us all our needs and, and, and if we couldn't get it here and we wanted something else, we'd, we'd do it for them. He was, he's very good for Africa." I said, "What happened since he left on my kids' lives?" This guy goes, "Libya, worst sex trafficking, the worst sex trafficking." So, that fucked me up. So, now think about that. We demonize this place, and we were told one thing. I'm not saying that's not what it was. What I'm saying is like, what really happened?
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, the, w- the... First of all, the state collapsed, and when a state collapses, criminals take over. And one of the things that you saw in Libya, at one point in time... Although I did get some messages through a friend of mine, uh, that some Libyan people wanted me to know that Libya, like, uh, the cities in Libya have recovered. They're not, like, as crazy as they were. Um, you know, that might be national pride that they're saying this. I don't know. I don't know.
- JBJim Breuer
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
I, I don't know what the story is.
- JBJim Breuer
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Maybe they're much better. Maybe they're judging it on a scale or whatever it was. But there's y-... There was YouTube videos of open-air slavery. So, you would watch people bid on people, and you could watch it on YouTube, and that was in Libya. That was after they killed Gaddafi. Did you ever see the, the video footage of them killing him?
- JBJim Breuer
No.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh. Oh, you have to see it.
- JBJim Breuer
Dude.
- JRJoe Rogan
When the rebels grab hold of Gaddafi and they realize they have him, and he realizes that they have him... And there's high-resolution cameras now because this was like 2012, I believe. Is that when it was?
- JBJim Breuer
Yeah, yeah.
- 10:59 – 12:31
Humans vs. chimps: brutality, progress, and the chaos of modern information
- JBJim Breuer
Dude, I remember you... One time, you said, you said... You had talked about chimpanzees, like, which is... It was f-
- JVJamie Vernon
(laughs)
- JBJim Breuer
It was really funny, but you go, "Dude, they were just chimpanzees that learned how to talk and lie." You said something like that. It was really fucking funny.
- JRJoe Rogan
I said they learned how to talk and lie?
- JBJim Breuer
No, that... Like, where chimpanzees-
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, who learned how to talk and lie?
- JBJim Breuer
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- JBJim Breuer
And I could be, I could be... But the point of that was, it really makes it... 'Cause we think we're so far advanced, and we're much smarter than anything.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- JBJim Breuer
We're, we're so much better. We're better beings. We're better souls.
- JRJoe Rogan
We are. We are. We really are.
- JBJim Breuer
We have the capability.
- JRJoe Rogan
No, we really are. We're way better than chimps. Listen, man, if chimps had nuclear weapons-
- JBJim Breuer
(laughs)
- JVJamie Vernon
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
... it would've been over a long time ago.
- JBJim Breuer
I know. Now, you were... Yeah, yeah, fair enough.
- JRJoe Rogan
They wouldn't have thought about the future.
- JBJim Breuer
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
"Fuck the future. Let's nuke these cunts." They would've just nuked everybody.
- JBJim Breuer
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
Chimp- chimps are so ruthless.
- JBJim Breuer
You're right.
- JRJoe Rogan
They are so ruthless, man. They don't give a fuck about you. They have no bad feelings. They don't have any, like, remorse for fucking people up.
- JBJim Breuer
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
Th- they would be the worst.
- JBJim Breuer
But, but-
- JRJoe Rogan
We're way, way, way, way better, which is not good enough yet. We-
- JBJim Breuer
But you...
- 12:31 – 21:52
Ukraine, NATO, and why people feel forced to “pick a side”
- JRJoe Rogan
And the amount of chaos that's going on constantly now is, like, unprecedented, because you don't know what the fuck is true or not. We're... Somehow or another, you and I, Jim Brewer and Joe Rogan, two guys who've known each other, were friends for 35 years, somehow or another, we have an investment in some fucking war that's happening in Russia and Ukraine, and we have to have a, we have to have a side we have to pick. We have to figure out what's true and what's not. We have to wade through all the, "How much money?" We have to go, "What?"
- JBJim Breuer
Right.
- JRJoe Rogan
"How much money?" There's n- there's no way that you know where all that money's going. There's no way.
- JBJim Breuer
Well, neither did I. How-
- JRJoe Rogan
'Cause it's like, that's too much money.
- JBJim Breuer
How crazy do you have to be at this point in your life? What... Like, is there anyone walking down the street going, "We really, really gotta fucking stop Russia from killing the U- we gotta..." Like, who the fuck is still thinking that way? It's mind-boggling to me.
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, we, we can't be the policemen of the world, but we should do what we can to stop people that are doing something that's horrific. But we also shouldn't be involved in things that are violating agreements where we're, like, pushing arms closer and closer to Russia's border. Like, all these things are true. So it's just, like, all these things are true simultaneously, and everybody wants only one side to be true.
- JBJim Breuer
Yeah. Right.
- JRJoe Rogan
That's all they want. They want their position to be correct and-
- JBJim Breuer
And it's not.
- JRJoe Rogan
No, this, that-
- JBJim Breuer
It's not.
- JRJoe Rogan
That Russia thing is messy. Of course it's horrible that Russia i- attacked Ukraine, but also, it's kind of fucked that NATO kept fucking with these guys and trying-
- JBJim Breuer
It's-
- JRJoe Rogan
... to bring them in and moving arms closer to Russia.
- JBJim Breuer
All he says is, like, "Hey, man. I, I get you guys are got your little toys and stuff. Just do me a favor? Let's have an agreement. Don't go past here, all right?"
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- JBJim Breuer
"You guys promise? We'll shake on it? We'll shake on it."
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, no one's-
- JBJim Breuer
"You wanna sign? Let's sign."
- JRJoe Rogan
Okay.
- JBJim Breuer
And then a month later, they're like, "Uh, dude. Why are you moving the f- I thought we agreed? We're just-"
- JRJoe Rogan
Werewolves.
- JBJim Breuer
Werewolves.
- JRJoe Rogan
Werewolves. Werewolves.
- JBJim Breuer
Now, you just said we're not that far off from monkeys, and then 10 minutes before that, you talked about the guy shoving a fucking..."
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. You know what chimps would've done to him?
- JBJim Breuer
Dude, that's barbaric.
- JRJoe Rogan
Chimps would've been way worse.
- JBJim Breuer
(laughs)
- 21:52 – 25:43
9/11 discourse, media pressure, and the Building 7 controversy
- JBJim Breuer
All you could do is go on... I remember being in a pub. I was in Chester, New Jersey. I don't know how I went pub.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- JBJim Breuer
I don't give a fuck. What the fuck did that come from? Like, "I was in pub." (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
Where did that come from?
- JBJim Breuer
So, I don't know. So I was in a pub, uh, Chester, New Jersey, and I was talking about the towers. And I, and I didn't wanna say I didn't believe. I said, "Man, I just got a lot of questions. You don't think it was weird they just pancaked straight down?" I thought that was a miracle. And then the second one I'm like, "Wait a minute. Wait a... This is..." And the reaction from that person was, "What are you? What are you? What are you, fucking one of those anti-American-" Like, he, he wanted to kill me. So what I'm saying is, you couldn't question anything at that time. If you dared question, they immediately have you-
- JRJoe Rogan
They would attack. Yeah.
- JBJim Breuer
... even, even, even the most popular-
- JRJoe Rogan
Even if you had a point.
- JBJim Breuer
... um, newscasters that people love today because they're on certain sides, they were, they were selling it hard. And to me, I never forgot that. They were selling death. They were selling murder. They were selling war. And bro, they, you couldn't question anything. They had that counterattack ready to go. And so when people go, "You're telling me this was a secret?" Yeah, man. When you control all that, that's pretty powerful when you wanna make vi- I question it and this guy wanted to fucking be violent against me. And I was just like, "I'm just..."
- JRJoe Rogan
It's crazy to be violent-
- JBJim Breuer
You don't think it's weird?
- JRJoe Rogan
It's crazy to be violent about an opinion like that because it's not an offensive opinion. It's not an offensive... First of all, it's slightly ignorant, right? Because the thing about tower one and tower two specifically is they didn't fall like a controlled demolition at all. They fell like a building that was collapsing. But tower seven fell, fell like a building into its base. That one's extraordinary. That one's extraordinary. And that one absolutely looks like a controlled demolition. I am not saying it's a controlled demolition.
- JBJim Breuer
No.
- JRJoe Rogan
What I am saying is, the way it collapsed, it- it went into its base just like a controlled demolition. And if you don't agree with that, then th- you're talking nonsense. If you don't agree with the fact that that looks like a controlled demolition, then we really can't talk because you're, you're dealing in fantasy world, or you're-
- JBJim Breuer
Because it undeniably looks exactly like a controlled demolition.
- JRJoe Rogan
... that doesn't mean it was. Uh, th- first of all, one thing that doesn't look like a controlled demolition is the top of it. You see it cave in long before the whole building collapses. So, there was a structural collapse that you can see from the video that most people aren't aware of. If you see the top of it, before the whole building comes down, see that top? See that dark s- thing in the top? That thing goes first. Now, watch how that goes. So-
- JBJim Breuer
You want me to play it or go slow?
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, just play it.
- JBJim Breuer
Okay.
- JRJoe Rogan
So, what apparently was going on, there's diesel generators-
- JBJim Breuer
Mm-hmm.
- JRJoe Rogan
... in that building. Now, s- see if you could play... I wanna see the thing... I think it was even before that, Jamie. I think it was a larger thing that went under first, it collapsed first. That's it.
- JBJim Breuer
There it is.
- JRJoe Rogan
See, that's that thing in the... See that?
- JBJim Breuer
Boom.
- JRJoe Rogan
Okay, there it goes. So, that collapses. So, this... Obviously, the internal structure's gone.
- JBJim Breuer
Mm-hmm.
- JRJoe Rogan
So, this thing collapsing like that-
- JBJim Breuer
Mm-hmm.
- JRJoe Rogan
... doesn't, doesn't throw me off as much-
- 25:43 – 40:29
Government bloat, audits, and climate messaging: fear narratives vs. infrastructure realities
- JRJoe Rogan
Look, man, I lived in Boston during the time of the Big Dig. Do you remember the Big Dig?
- JBJim Breuer
What is the Big Dig?
- JRJoe Rogan
The Big Dig (laughs) , the Big Dig was a fucking construction project that was the most construc- corrupt construction project that's ever existed. It was supposed to last like a couple years, it went on for decades. These guys milked it. They would be like working like this, dink, dink.
- JBJim Breuer
It's like New York and, uh... Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- JBJim Breuer
New York and Boston, yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
The Big Dig, it w- it was supposed to... It started in 1982 when I lived there, it ended in 2007. It was supposed to take like two years (laughs) . They just fucking milked it and a bunch of people went to jail, there's a bunch of lawsuits. Oh, yeah, fucking full on corruption.
- JBJim Breuer
How come they don't look at, look at the LIE on Long Island? It's been under construction-
- JRJoe Rogan
Forever.
- JBJim Breuer
... since I was a child.
- JRJoe Rogan
Forever. Well, here's another thing. When you pay tolls, the tolls on a bridge were supposed to be-
- JBJim Breuer
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
... to compensate for the money that it took to build the bridge.
- JBJim Breuer
Right.
- JRJoe Rogan
But once they have all the money to build the bridge, they're like, "Fuck you, pay me. Just keep paying me."
- JBJim Breuer
And where's that money going?
- JRJoe Rogan
"Just keep paying me." Well, it goes to the state, and then the state can make the government bigger. Wee! And we have more people (laughs) that can go after you if you don't pay!
- JBJim Breuer
Here's another law.
- JRJoe Rogan
Pay! (imitates fart)
- JBJim Breuer
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
Do you know that more government jobs have been created, uh, over the last, I forget what the time period it was, than any other sector? Any other things going on?
- JBJim Breuer
But, see, Joe, it's little things like this... Uh, what drives me nuts too is... You know what it is? I think people's emotions... It's just people's emotions are still with it, uh, w- they're either in denial or they don't wanna face the dark, or they picked a team and no matter what that team says, the other team is wrong. They say, "Hey, I'm an Eagles fan."
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, first of all, you have to have a lot of l- looking into things before you form a realistic perspective of what's happening. It takes a long time, man. And a lot of people don't have that time. We're lucky that we're comics and we have a lot of time.
- JBJim Breuer
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
You know?
- JBJim Breuer
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Being a standup especially, b- you know, the podcast kind of gets in the way of that, 'cause I have to sit down and talk to people for a few hours. But-
- JBJim Breuer
Right.
- JRJoe Rogan
... if you're a standup for the most part, you can do whatever the fuck you want during your day.
- JBJim Breuer
Right.
- 40:29 – 48:13
Pandemic aftershocks: mortality spikes, vaccines, and the taboo around variables
- JRJoe Rogan
When you see stories like that, like, young p- people are gonna have heart attacks due to climate change (laughs) . I've seen those. Like, yeah, yeah. Anything else?
- JBJim Breuer
But do you just think-
- JRJoe Rogan
Does a- anything else give kids heart attacks?
- JBJim Breuer
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
Thanks for writing that article. I'll, I'll be sure to make sure that the kids get water when it gets hot out, if they're running.
- JBJim Breuer
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
Um, anything else give them heart attacks that you guys ever found? Have you been looking around? "No, nothing. Nothing over here, just, uh, climate change." Okay. So, the, like, what is the uptick in the amount of kids having heart attacks? And is it corresponding to a certain temperature rise? I- it seems like that would be, like, scientifically you could m- measure that. If there was an uptick and the temperature raised 1% and we saw a 10% increase in heart attacks amongst 18-year-olds, would that-
- JBJim Breuer
Which is happening, right?
- JRJoe Rogan
I don't know what the number is, but I do know-
- JBJim Breuer
It has been happening.
- JRJoe Rogan
... the num-
- JBJim Breuer
What the heck is that all about?
- JRJoe Rogan
... the n- the number of deaths-
- JBJim Breuer
Hmm.
- JRJoe Rogan
... is what's the spooky one.
- JBJim Breuer
Mm-hmm.
- JRJoe Rogan
Because the all-cause mortality-
- JBJim Breuer
Mm-hmm.
- JRJoe Rogan
... spiked way up. That's what, that's what's freaky. That's a freaky one. That's a freaky one. And, uh, you could attribute... and you have to be really fair about that. You could attribute that to a bunch of different things.
- JBJim Breuer
Mm-hmm.
- JRJoe Rogan
First of all, you could attribute it to bad habits that people picked up during COVID. That will take up a certain percentage of them.
- JBJim Breuer
There's a lot of that.
- JRJoe Rogan
A lot of people became alcoholics during COVID.
- JBJim Breuer
Oh, yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
A lot of people did. So that's a percentage. And then you have to think about a percentage of people that got COVID and got fucking wrecked.
- JBJim Breuer
Mm-hmm.
- JRJoe Rogan
'Cause I know some people that got wrecked.
- JBJim Breuer
Same.
- JRJoe Rogan
They got wrecked, and they were, you know, compromised after that.
- JBJim Breuer
Mm-hmm.
- 48:13 – 1:11:40
Fear, compliance, and ‘tiny encroachments’: Jordan Peterson’s tyranny model
- JBJim Breuer
But that's what we've lost. What, what for me what COVID did was it was the la- i- it was the way the werewolves... I say it's the werewolves. The wel- the werewolves went, "This is how we really rip the families apart." And well, because everybody has fear in them.... and everyone in your family has f- every human being has fear in them. And they're testing, the more the werewolves get to test your fear factor, the stronger they become 'cause they see who buckles. They see who's gonna call.
- JRJoe Rogan
They see how many people buckle. They see how many people-
- JBJim Breuer
They see how many people, they see who's lashing out. They see how many people wearing a mask at the airport. They s- they... so they're measuring the fear.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- JBJim Breuer
And, um, you know, man, I just... I pray to God it's ti- it just becomes time for the fearless. And what the fearless is, it's not a violent fight. It's just... You- you said some brilliant things. I, I remember years ago, you were talking about like, "Dude, this is the time of the truth, and t-" And it really resonated, like, yes, that's what we need in life, just, just truth, just honesty.
- JRJoe Rogan
We're, we're getting there.
- JBJim Breuer
Just looking after each other.
- JRJoe Rogan
I think we're gonna get there.
- JBJim Breuer
Oh, I know we're getting there.
- JRJoe Rogan
I think we're just getting there, it's just-
- JBJim Breuer
But we gotta be aware of the w- we gotta be aware of the werewolves.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. Well, we gotta be aware of the werewolves who are trying to close the gate.
- JBJim Breuer
Yes.
- JRJoe Rogan
They're trying to close the gate before human beings, um... Without these enormous institutions, human beings have the power over the narrative, and that human beings that you trust are real. They do exist. They just don't exist in those systems, they exist independently for the most part. And they're, they're real, and they can tell you what's actually going on. It'll shock you, but it shouldn't if you understand history. Do you know the number one group of people in the beginning of the pandemic when they rolled out the vaccines, number one group that had vaccine hesitancy?
- JBJim Breuer
Hm.
- JRJoe Rogan
PhDs.
- JBJim Breuer
Hm.
- JRJoe Rogan
F- find that. Find that. There was an article that I was reading, I hope it's true. Um, that in the beginning, there was a lot of PhDs that were like, "Uh," because these are people that, like, understand how these studies are funded probably, or at least understand how research is done and how, uh, research is done through the pharmaceutical drug companies.
- JBJim Breuer
Mm-hmm.
- JRJoe Rogan
So, the pharmaceutical drug companies, they do their own research. And then they don't... When, when something's peer-reviewed, it doesn't even get... They don't even get access to the raw data. They get, get access to the assessment of the data by the pharmaceutical companies. And the pharmaceutical companies can do 10 studies, and they rig their studies in a way that get the most biased results. And if eight of 'em show no benefit, but one or two of 'em shows a little bit of a benefit, then they can roll out. And then they start making... (howls)
- JBJim Breuer
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
So-
- JBJim Breuer
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
... I think PhDs were very (laughs) aware of that system and aware of the... Also, if you're... if you understand human psychology, you're w- aware of what happens to people in a time of great angst and pressure, that they panic. And, and in every horror movie you see this, s- people fall apart. There's a... And the weaker you can make society, the more corrupted you can make society, the more decadent you can make society, the more s- society that doesn't value discipline, that doesn't value free will, that doesn't value people's independence and strength and health. Well, then you'll be able to find more suckers when the shit goes sideways. You're gonna get more pussies. You're gonna get more people that are willing to sell out their neighbors 'cause they were having a party and they weren't socially distancing.
- JBJim Breuer
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
You get a lot of fucking suckers, because it's too easy to live today. And it's t- there's two... It's, it's too... It's too easy to develop into a fully-formed adult that is made out of mush, not just mush with your body, but mush with your mind, mush with your opinions, mo- mush with your will, your will to get things done, your will to work, your discipline to get up and get things done. Those aren't frivolous things. Those aren't things that you should ever, uh, uh, equate to toxic masculinity or toxic feminine energy. N- no, those are powerful human traits, and you've been tricked. You've been tricked into thinking that weakness is a virtue. It's not. Kindness is a virtue, and kindness through strength is the most honest kindness.
- JBJim Breuer
Mm-hmm.
- JRJoe Rogan
When Francis in Ghana is being nice to you, it's 'cause he wants to be nice to you. (laughs) You know what I'm saying?
- JBJim Breuer
(laughs) Yes.
- JRJoe Rogan
That's a real... When he's kind, it's real kindness. They found 23.9% of the people who said they hold PhD degrees express hesitancy, the highest rate amongst the various levels of education. So, the brightest people were like, "Yeah."
- 1:11:40 – 1:29:28
Bathroom break to urban history: horse manure crisis and unintended consequences of ‘progress’
- JRJoe Rogan
I gotta piss. Can we hold this?
- JBJim Breuer
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Hold this. I gotta take a leak. We'll be right back.
- JBJim Breuer
I gotta pee too.
- JRJoe Rogan
You ever shit in the woods?
- JBJim Breuer
Um...
- JRJoe Rogan
It's a wild thing.
- JBJim Breuer
Not naturally. I did it cheating.
- JRJoe Rogan
Feels normal. You know, um-
- JBJim Breuer
I cheated.
- JRJoe Rogan
... I was reading this thing about India. They have a problem where people don't like to use toilets. They just like to shit outside.
- JBJim Breuer
They use their...
- JRJoe Rogan
There's certain places they just, they've been shitting outside forever-
- JBJim Breuer
Just try to produce.
- JRJoe Rogan
... so they, they don't like toilets.
- JBJim Breuer
Oh.
- JRJoe Rogan
So they're building toilets and people are rejecting them.
- JBJim Breuer
I could see that.
- JRJoe Rogan
Shitting outside is fun. In the woods-
- JBJim Breuer
I think so. Any, any-
- JRJoe Rogan
It's the natural way to shit. It comes out so easy. It's like, "Whee."
- JBJim Breuer
Yeah, because you're squatted down and it just-
- JRJoe Rogan
That's why they make those Squatty Potty things. You know those?
- JBJim Breuer
Yes.
- JRJoe Rogan
You have one of those?
- JBJim Breuer
Um, I don't.
- JRJoe Rogan
I have one. It helps.
- JBJim Breuer
I'm sure it does.
- JRJoe Rogan
You shit easier. You're like, "Whee."
- JBJim Breuer
I shit good, man. I wake up, pang.
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