Joe Rogan Experience #2093 - Sober October Crew

Bert Kreischer is a stand-up comic, podcaster, and actor. He's the host of "The Bertcast" podcast and YouTube cooking program "Something's Burning." He's also the co-host of the "2 Bears, 1 Cave" podcast with fellow comedian Tom Segura. Watch his latest special, "Bert Kreischer: Razzle Dazzle," on Netflix. www.bertbertbert.com Tom Segura is a stand-up comic, actor, podcaster, and author. He co-hosts two podcasts, "Your Mom's House," with his wife, comic Christina Pazsitsky, and "Two Bears, One Cave," with comic Bert Kreischer. He's also the host of his own podcast, "Tom Segura en Español," and is the author of "I'd Like to Play Alone, Please: Essays." Watch his latest special, "Tom Segura: Sledgehammer," on Netflix. www.ymhstudios.com Ari Shaffir is the host of "The Skeptic Tank" and "You Be Trippin'" podcasts. Watch his latest comedy special, "Ari Shaffir: Jew," on YouTube. www.arishaffir.com

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0:00 – 2:30
Andrew Dice Clay’s Instagram ambush videos: performance art or harassment?
1. JRJoe Rogan
  (drum roll) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out.
2. NANarrator
  The Joe Rogan Experience. (rock music plays) Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. Are you looking for me?
3. TSTom Segura
  No, this is perfect.
4. JRJoe Rogan
  (laughs)
5. BKBert Kreischer
  What? Is that-
6. JRJoe Rogan
  "You wanted a picture?" "You wanted a picture?"
7. TSTom Segura
  Isn't this New York too where no one wants to talk to anybody? (laughs)
8. BKBert Kreischer
  (laughs) Yeah.
9. TSTom Segura
  Is that the one?
10. JRJoe Rogan
  His, Dice Clay's, uh, his Instagram is performance art.
11. BKBert Kreischer
  That is.
12. TSTom Segura
  Yeah.
13. JRJoe Rogan
  And people, they don't appreciate it because performance art is snobby and you think, like, you have to be left-leaning, you know-
14. TSTom Segura
  Yeah.
15. JRJoe Rogan
  ... liberal, super fucking progressive, like, that, that's the only way you can have performance art. But no, what Andrew Dice Clay is doing, some of the best-
16. TSTom Segura
  That's the funniest thing on Instagram.
17. JRJoe Rogan
  ... wild performance art.
18. BKBert Kreischer
  You give away the hat, the king's hat.
19. TSTom Segura
  (laughs) I saw this one. The king's hat.
20. BKBert Kreischer
  The hat?
21. ASAri Shaffir
  What about the hat?
22. BKBert Kreischer
  My hat, the king's hat?
23. ASAri Shaffir
  It's good.
24. BKBert Kreischer
  No, what I'm saying, I can see that you're a fan-
25. ASAri Shaffir
  No, we're talking about my coworker.
26. BKBert Kreischer
  Oh, no, if you wanted a picture, you know-
27. TSTom Segura
  (laughs)
28. BKBert Kreischer
  ... I, I would take.
29. ASAri Shaffir
  I see that.
30. BKBert Kreischer
  (laughs)
2:30 – 4:07
Is filming strangers for pranks legal—and why it’s getting dangerous
1. JRJoe Rogan
  Now here's the question, is that legal?
2. TSTom Segura
  Sort of, but it should not be.
3. BKBert Kreischer
  Sure, yeah.
4. SGShane Gillis
  I think-
5. JRJoe Rogan
  I mean, is that legal you can just take some guy who's working in an upholstery shop-
6. TSTom Segura
  Yeah.
7. BKBert Kreischer
  Yeah.
8. JRJoe Rogan
  ... and Andrew Dice Clay is like, "You wanted a picture?"
9. TSTom Segura
  (laughs)
10. JRJoe Rogan
  (laughs) "A picture?"
11. TSTom Segura
  He does it-
12. JRJoe Rogan
  And this fucking guy-
13. TSTom Segura
  Well, here's the thing, he does it on street corners a lot.
14. SGShane Gillis
  Yeah.
15. TSTom Segura
  So, like, you're in public, right? And if you're in public you can be filmed.
16. JRJoe Rogan
  Mm.
17. BKBert Kreischer
  Which is also wild.
18. TSTom Segura
  Which is wild.
19. SGShane Gillis
  Which is insane.
20. TSTom Segura
  Yeah.
21. JRJoe Rogan
  It's kind of wild.
22. TSTom Segura
  Yeah.
23. JRJoe Rogan
  And you can be filmed against your knowledge.
24. TSTom Segura
  Yeah.
25. JRJoe Rogan
  It's kind of wild.
26. SGShane Gillis
  I love... My, my favorite is when, uh, those young white kids do it to just Black dudes and then they're like, "Hey, did you want me to kiss me on the lips?" And the guy goes, "No, you're talking to the wrong motherfucker."
27. TSTom Segura
  Yeah.
28. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah.
29. TSTom Segura
  And he's like, "In a second." And then he just jaws the dude and knocks him unconscious.
30. JRJoe Rogan
  Ooh.
4:07 – 6:01
The ‘bucket of poop’ prank and why bodily fluids cross into serious crime
1. TSTom Segura
  Did you see the fucking guy... Oh my God, this is in Europe, where his prank was he pours liquified dog shit on people.
2. BKBert Kreischer
  What?
3. SGShane Gillis
  Oh my God.
4. TSTom Segura
  Yeah, yeah, yeah. He just got arrested.
5. BKBert Kreischer
  Oh my God.
6. TSTom Segura
  So you're like, you're on the subway-
7. SGShane Gillis
  Oh fuck.
8. TSTom Segura
  ... and he has a bucket-
9. BKBert Kreischer
  Oh no.
10. TSTom Segura
  ... of dog shit that he's put in the bucket and put water in.
11. JRJoe Rogan
  Oh my gosh.
12. SGShane Gillis
  He got, he gotta get arrested.
13. TSTom Segura
  And then he dumps it on people. Yeah.
14. BKBert Kreischer
  He dumps it on their heads?
15. SGShane Gillis
  Just kill him.
16. TSTom Segura
  Yeah, dude.
17. SGShane Gillis
  We have to get this guy.
18. BKBert Kreischer
  "YouTuber arrested for throwing bucket of poo on train passengers."
19. TSTom Segura
  He's done it many times, like several times.
20. JRJoe Rogan
  What?
21. BKBert Kreischer
  And he's filming... He's got just a-
22. JRJoe Rogan
  Oh my God.
23. NANarrator
  A prankster was arrested.
24. SGShane Gillis
  Oh, fuck this guy.
25. TSTom Segura
  It's super insane.
26. JRJoe Rogan
  Oh my God.
27. TSTom Segura
  That's a bucket of shit.
28. JRJoe Rogan
  What a psychopath.
29. TSTom Segura
  Yeah, and then he's just like-
30. JRJoe Rogan
  What a psychopath. He just dumps a bucket of shit on this guy's back.
6:01 – 10:46
Naked Martin and the internet’s content-moderation absurdity
1. SGShane Gillis
  Tom and I have an offer out to Mark Cuban to rub shit on our faces for $1.75 million.
2. JRJoe Rogan
  ... his shit? (laughs)
3. GUGuest
  (laughs)
4. TSTom Segura
  Our shit.
5. JRJoe Rogan
  No, no, your shit.
6. GUGuest
  We will- hold on, Tom.
7. JRJoe Rogan
  You shit, he rubs it on your face bare-handed?
8. GUGuest
  You want a picture of you- No, no. He's... No. Now, listen, we're hoping that Elon hears this and then ups the ante- (laughs)
9. TSTom Segura
  (laughs)
10. JRJoe Rogan
  ... and says, "Mark, if you shit on your face, I'll give another 1.75." But yeah-
11. TSTom Segura
  Mm-hmm.
12. JRJoe Rogan
  ... Tom and I... Tom's fans of this guy that shits on his face. (laughs)
13. TSTom Segura
  Wait a minute. There's a guy that you're a fan of that shits on his face?
14. GUGuest
  No, Tom loves it. Tom loves it.
15. JRJoe Rogan
  Tom loves him. Yeah.
16. TSTom Segura
  Wait a minute. There's this guy who-
17. JRJoe Rogan
  (laughs)
18. TSTom Segura
  Jesus Christ.
19. GUGuest
  Hold on, let Tom explain.
20. TSTom Segura
  There's this guy that will, like... Well, he'll do, like, a birthday wish naked. He just stands there naked, and then he flops his dick around. But if you pay him more, he'll shit in his hand- (laughs)
21. GUGuest
  You're not gonna believe this. It's actually worse when you see it. (laughs)
22. JRJoe Rogan
  (laughs)
23. TSTom Segura
  It's pretty bad. It's pretty bad. (laughs) That's, that's naked Martin. (laughs)
24. GUGuest
  (laughs)
25. TSTom Segura
  Oh, my God, it's worse when you see it? It's pretty bad.
26. GUGuest
  It's so bad. Joe, Joe, Joe, Joe, you haven't even heard the worst.
27. TSTom Segura
  (laughs)
28. GUGuest
  Oh, Joe, you got a surprise coming your way.
29. TSTom Segura
  Yeah, you got a surprise. (laughs)
30. GUGuest
  You got a surprise coming your way.
10:46 – 12:16
Instagram’s algorithm: it ‘knows’ what you watched, so why doesn’t it remove it?
1. JRJoe Rogan
  But that's the thing. So, I asked... So, I actually ran into an engineer at Meta two days ago.
2. TSTom Segura
  Mm-hmm.
3. JRJoe Rogan
  And he was talking to me, and, and I... I kinda, like, was like, "What's up with this?" And he's like, "Yeah, there's just so many accounts. It's hard to..." And I'm like, "No."
4. GUGuest
  Yeah.
5. JRJoe Rogan
  I go, "These are accounts that have been up forever, and they just have murders."
6. TSTom Segura
  Well, here, not only that, they just show up in my feed and I'm not following them.
7. JRJoe Rogan
  Oh, yeah, of course.
8. GUGuest
  Oh, yeah.
9. TSTom Segura
  That's the algorithm.
10. JRJoe Rogan
  He said, he said two seconds.
11. TSTom Segura
  He said if you look at something for two, two seconds, that means they will start sending you more.
12. GUGuest
  If you like it.
13. JRJoe Rogan
  Oh, fuck yeah.
14. TSTom Segura
  So, does the algorithm recognize that you like car accidents?
15. GUGuest
  Yes.
16. JRJoe Rogan
  For sure.
17. GUGuest
  Yes.
18. TSTom Segura
  Or that you're watching them. It's just saying, "This guy will watch a car accident."
19. GUGuest
  It's not enough to, like, don't click on that 'cause it'll lead to more. It's during the pause.
20. JRJoe Rogan
  But my point is that that means that the algori- algorithm recognizes what that video is.
21. TSTom Segura
  Right.
22. JRJoe Rogan
  So, if the algorithm recognizes what that video is and it doesn't flag it-
23. TSTom Segura
  Then it can... It could take it off if it wanted to.
24. GUGuest
  Right.
25. JRJoe Rogan
  If it wanted to.
26. TSTom Segura
  Exactly.
27. GUGuest
  Good point.
28. JRJoe Rogan
  But if they wanted to just, like, not only, like, let the algorithm encourage you to watch it-
29. TSTom Segura
  Yeah.
30. JRJoe Rogan
  ... but leave the videos up.
12:16 – 14:37
Sinkholes, erosion, and realizing the earth can ‘delete’ your neighborhood
1. JRJoe Rogan
  Sinkholes are crazy. Sinkholes are crazy. Like, one day, your house can just fall into a bottomless pit.
2. TSTom Segura
  Yeah.
3. JRJoe Rogan
  Out of nowhere. The earth collapses underneath where your structure is.
4. TSTom Segura
  Uh, a car in an intersection gets swallowed up.
5. JRJoe Rogan
  Swallowed up.
6. GUGuest
  What?
7. TSTom Segura
  And you realize that, like, who do you call?... do you, do you think you're like-
8. JRJoe Rogan
  (laughs)
9. TSTom Segura
  ... "Hey, I'm mad at the mayor."
10. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah.
11. TSTom Segura
  Like, the, y- there's nothing you can... The Earth just did it. Like-
12. SGShane Gillis
  It's the Earth. Yeah.
13. JRJoe Rogan
  Well, the, the, the reality is asphalt is preposterous. It's a ridiculous idea.
14. TSTom Segura
  Why?
15. JRJoe Rogan
  It fucks up erosion. It does so many thing... Like, it fucks up absorption of the water naturally into the ground.
16. SGShane Gillis
  They're gonna call you a-
17. JRJoe Rogan
  You're covering everything with rock.
18. TSTom Segura
  Yeah.
19. SGShane Gillis
  They're gonna call you an anti-falter.
20. JRJoe Rogan
  And then underneath that, what's happening? What's happening underneath all that rock? I would imagine a lot of that water's moving around in there.
21. TSTom Segura
  Yeah.
22. JRJoe Rogan
  And if it creates a nice little pocket, and then you get the weight of all these buildings, and then one day just... They just go under, dude.
23. SGShane Gillis
  It happens everywhere.
24. JRJoe Rogan
  They've lost blocks. Have you ever seen, like, those-
25. SGShane Gillis
  Yeah, it's crazy.
26. JRJoe Rogan
  ... crazy giant sinkholes-
27. SGShane Gillis
  It's Florida.
28. JRJoe Rogan
  ... where, like, a whole block has fallen into it?
29. TSTom Segura
  Florida's good. Yeah, happened to me when we were kids.
30. JRJoe Rogan
  See if you can find the giant sinkhole.
14:37 – 20:38
Ocean danger stories: waves, rip currents, and near-drowning moments
1. SGShane Gillis
  The arrogance when the big waves were coming into California, like, a month ago about, w- I drove the girls out to go look at the big waves. They were fucking massive, 20 feet. You know, it's really impressive. It sounds like thunder.
2. TSTom Segura
  Wow.
3. JRJoe Rogan
  Mm-hmm.
4. SGShane Gillis
  And, uh, Isla got, uh, slo- swept out by a wave.
5. JRJoe Rogan
  (gasps)
6. SGShane Gillis
  She got... There's a video of it. It's not bad. She, she's fine. But it's funny-
7. JRJoe Rogan
  What?
8. SGShane Gillis
  Sh- there's, it's on my Instagram.
9. JRJoe Rogan
  How, how swept out?
10. SGShane Gillis
  Uh, just, i- i- you can see it. It's not... She didn't get taken out to sea, but she got overtaken by a wave, and it was... It's funny because it's very lighthearted, but then as... And I, I don't even think I handled it well as a parent. I was like- Yeah, you filmed and didn't help? (laughs) I filmed and then said, "Do you have, is your cellphone, is your cellphone in your pocket?"
11. JRJoe Rogan
  (laughs)
12. SGShane Gillis
  And so, uh, but what's f- crazy is the moment of clarity after that where you go, "Hold on. We're not safe here."
13. JRJoe Rogan
  Oh, right.
14. SGShane Gillis
  "Like, this is, oh, th- hang on, this is actually really dangerous."
15. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah.
16. SGShane Gillis
  This is Isla. And she just g- like, she was just fucking around, and then-
17. TSTom Segura
  This kid's gonna... Oh, boy.
18. SGShane Gillis
  ... and it's, like, aggressive. Of course we're all laughing.
19. TSTom Segura
  And then if she slips-
20. JRJoe Rogan
  She's far enough away where I'm not scared.
21. SGShane Gillis
  Yeah.
22. TSTom Segura
  Sort of, but if she slips further back-
23. JRJoe Rogan
  But-
24. TSTom Segura
  ... that's all coming back.
25. JRJoe Rogan
  But what I'm saying is that, like, that's one of those-
26. TSTom Segura
  (laughs)
27. JRJoe Rogan
  ... you know, 50, 50 feet here, 50 feet there things.
28. TSTom Segura
  Yeah.
29. JRJoe Rogan
  Like, if you fuck up and you're 50 feet in front of that and you think you can get away-
30. TSTom Segura
  I've had multiple ocean scares now. (clears throat) Like, the one, the ones where you're, like-
20:38 – 23:33
Tree wells, crevasses, and ‘the beacon is to find the body’ skiing reality
1. JRJoe Rogan
  Oh, my God. So this is the snowboarder that's buried upside down.
2. TSTom Segura
  No.
3. BKBert Kreischer
  (laughs)
4. JRJoe Rogan
  So this guy just sees that little blue piece.
5. SGShane Gillis
  Bro.
6. TSTom Segura
  Just randomly.
7. SGShane Gillis
  This- this hap- this happened to me.
8. BKBert Kreischer
  He skied right over him.
9. TSTom Segura
  Yeah, he ca-... I mean, he easily could have missed that.
10. BKBert Kreischer
  He happened to take that... Yeah, could have gone the other way.
11. TSTom Segura
  Dude-
12. JRJoe Rogan
  There's not much blue.
13. SGShane Gillis
  Soft snow. He's in a tree well is what it is.
14. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah.
15. SGShane Gillis
  So the tree wells, uh, it's really soft, soft snow.
16. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah.
17. SGShane Gillis
  So if you get stuck in a tree well, you are fucking dead. A lot of people die-
18. JRJoe Rogan
  (sighs)
19. SGShane Gillis
  ... in tree wells.
20. JRJoe Rogan
  God damn.
21. BKBert Kreischer
  Yeah, I'm thinking of getting one of those GPS things, so we can use this as a lesson.
22. SGShane Gillis
  You know that one we went on? We went, uh, snowboarding in Matterhorn-
23. BKBert Kreischer
  Yeah.
24. SGShane Gillis
  Uh, heli-skiing.
25. BKBert Kreischer
  Oof.
26. SGShane Gillis
  And the guy put a beacon on us. And the first thing he said... He puts a beacon... It's, like, four feet of powder. And he says, uh, "This is so we can find the body."
27. JRJoe Rogan
  (sighs)
28. SGShane Gillis
  And I was like, "What?" He's like-
29. TSTom Segura
  Oh, this is on-
30. SGShane Gillis
  ... "You might fall into a crevasse or an avalanche, so we put the beacon on to find the body."
23:33 – 30:47
Joe’s concussion and fracture: why he thinks skiing ‘isn’t worth it’
1. JRJoe Rogan
  Did I tell you about my last ski experience?
2. SGShane Gillis
  Uh-
3. JRJoe Rogan
  I- I only used to ski with my family.
4. SGShane Gillis
  You- you-
5. BKBert Kreischer
  What?
6. SGShane Gillis
  This resonates-
7. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah.
8. SGShane Gillis
  ... every time I go skiing 'cause you go, "It's not worth it. It's not worth-"
9. BKBert Kreischer
  Oh, he always says that.
10. SGShane Gillis
  He always says it-
11. JRJoe Rogan
  But this is-
12. SGShane Gillis
  ... every time we go skiing.
13. JRJoe Rogan
  When... Well, I would go skiing because they wanted to go skiing, and I would be like, "This is fun." It's good for kids to learn early 'cause they're really good at it, and my wife likes it. But I would be like, "Don't get hurt. Don't get hurt. Don't get hurt." Didn't get hurt. "Back up."
14. SGShane Gillis
  (laughs)
15. JRJoe Rogan
  "Don't get hurt. Don't get hurt. Don't get hurt."
16. BKBert Kreischer
  Not fun.
17. JRJoe Rogan
  Didn't get hurt. Good. So all I'm doing is mitigating risk the entire time I'm skiing.
18. SGShane Gillis
  Sure.
19. JRJoe Rogan
  'Cause I've had fucking three knee operations. I really know what it's like to blow your shit apart. And they're, like, naive to how vulnerable your knees are. And kids are fucking rubber.
20. SGShane Gillis
  Yeah.
21. JRJoe Rogan
  They just fucking bounce off rocks-
22. SGShane Gillis
  Yeah.
23. JRJoe Rogan
  ... and they're fine. They fall down. They only weigh 80 pounds. They fall down. They get right back up.
24. TSTom Segura
  Right back up.
25. JRJoe Rogan
  But...... I, so this last time, I was going around this turn and this lady didn't know how to ski. And it looked like she was just a fresh beginner, and she was, like, doing the pizza thing-
26. SGShane Gillis
  Wow.
27. JRJoe Rogan
  ... but she was sliding right into the trail.
28. SGShane Gillis
  Oh.
29. JRJoe Rogan
  And it's a s- it's a narrow trail and I'm like, "I have two options: I'm wiping this lady out or I'm gonna catastrophically fall down." I went with option two.
30. SGShane Gillis
  (laughs)
30:47 – 33:02
Sober October mindset, booze ‘sparkle,’ weed, and the rituals of touring comics
1. JRJoe Rogan
  I naively thought that when we did the first challenge, which was the weight loss challenge that led to a Sober October group-
2. GUGuest
  Yeah.
3. JRJoe Rogan
  ... I really thought, like, you'd, like, stay on that path. You got so skinny.
4. SGShane Gillis
  I didn't, I didn't care.
5. JRJoe Rogan
  (laughs)
6. GUGuest
  (laughs)
7. SGShane Gillis
  I didn't care.
8. GUGuest
  Yeah, yeah.
9. JRJoe Rogan
  (laughs)
10. SGShane Gillis
  You have to... You have to wanna do it.
11. GUGuest
  November 1st.
12. JRJoe Rogan
  That's true.
13. SGShane Gillis
  I tell you right now, Sober October was an interesting experiment, but I will tell you ha- having done, like, three months or whatever I did, that one month is... You, you... And you... And the big difference is I stopped drinking on planes-
14. GUGuest
  Hmm.
15. SGShane Gillis
  ... because I wasn't not drinking on a plane because of you three assholes. Like, I was not drinking because of you guys.
16. GUGuest
  Hmm.
17. SGShane Gillis
  And then when you're not drinking and you go, "I'm not drinking for me," it's very fucking different.
18. GUGuest
  Mm-hmm.
19. SGShane Gillis
  And then that was... Then I got really comfortable on planes and I was like, "Oh, I've... I can get through this." I can-
20. JRJoe Rogan
  Why can't scientists-
21. GUGuest
  Fucking...
22. JRJoe Rogan
  ... just make a booze that doesn't kill you?
23. GUGuest
  Yeah.
24. JRJoe Rogan
  Can't you fucking wizards out there-
25. GUGuest
  You know scientists. Ask them.
26. There has to be.
27. There has to be.
28. JRJoe Rogan
  Make a booze that doesn't kill you.
29. GUGuest
  Don't they make natural wine that's better for you?
30. JRJoe Rogan
  There's gotta be a way to... If you can make synthetic marijuana and turn it into pills, there's gotta be a way to take whatever the fuck it is that alcohol does good-
33:02 – 37:30
Comedy life: Joey Diaz stories, ‘condo studio’ idea, and Mothership freedom
1. JRJoe Rogan
  I did that with Joey.
2. SGShane Gillis
  I'm in there in the summer.
3. JRJoe Rogan
  I did it with Joey and Tony. It was fun.
4. GUGuest
  (laughs)
5. Do you know what Joey told me? He goes-
6. What?
7. ... "I'm coming to..." First of all, he goes, "If I see you wearing those glasses, I'm gonna fucking break them."
8. (laughs)
9. JRJoe Rogan
  (laughs)
10. GUGuest
  And I go, "What?" I go... He calls me. Like, I'm in Hawaii and I'm like, "What?" Like, "Happy New Year." And he's like, "You gotta take those off." I go, "I need them to see though. I... I put them on to see."
11. Oh, cock sucker.
12. And he goes, "It can't be those."
13. (laughs)
14. I go, "Why?" He goes, "What are you fucking... Doing the news?" And I go, "No, I just-"
15. SGShane Gillis
  Doing the news, that's when people read Joey's life.
16. JRJoe Rogan
  (laughs) Doing the news.
17. GUGuest
  I go, "Well, dude, I..."
18. Doing the news.
19. "Okay. Am I allow..." I go, "Can I wear another pair of glasses that, that are approved?"
20. And he says-
21. And he's like... He goes, "Yeah." He goes, "But I... It can't be those." And I go, "Okay." And then he goes-
22. SGShane Gillis
  Like you're gonna be with a bar still up.
23. JRJoe Rogan
  He takes his Buddy Holly over here.
24. GUGuest
  Yeah. He goes, "I'll see you in two... I'll see you in two weeks." And I go, "Where are you gonna see me in two weeks?" He goes, "When you come to Jersey, when you're in Atlantic City." And I go, "Oh, great." He goes, "I noticed that nas-... Last time you were in Jersey, you didn't give me a call. You were hanging out with your white friends."
25. JRJoe Rogan
  (laughs)
26. GUGuest
  (laughs)
27. And I go... (laughs) I go... I go... He goes, "Don't think I forgot you're a fucking Hispanic. You give me a call every time you come to Jersey." I go, "Okay, I'm sorry. I'm sorry."
28. JRJoe Rogan
  He's the king of New Jersey.
29. GUGuest
  Yeah.
30. JRJoe Rogan
  Joey's open to a residency here.
37:30 – 51:15
Joe’s podcast craft: handling experts, confusion, and the ‘simulation theory’ hurdle
1. JRJoe Rogan
  2000.
2. SGShane Gillis
  Wow.
3. TSTom Segura
  What?
4. SGShane Gillis
  Wow.
5. ASAri Shaffir
  2093.
6. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah. And then there's the Fight Companions, which is like a hundred and... How many of those?
7. ASAri Shaffir
  There's probably 60 to 70 of those and-
8. SGShane Gillis
  I did one of those.
9. ASAri Shaffir
  ... 153 MMA shows.
10. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah, so that's another 200, so it's-
11. SGShane Gillis
  What's, what's your worst one?
12. JRJoe Rogan
  I don't think I have a, a lot of bad ones.
13. TSTom Segura
  Oh, wow.
14. SGShane Gillis
  We have some bad ones. We can go around and nail our stinkers.
15. ASAri Shaffir
  Yeah. I agree.
16. JRJoe Rogan
  The early ones, definitely, I sucked at it.
17. SGShane Gillis
  No, you didn't. That was-
18. JRJoe Rogan
  That's what-
19. SGShane Gillis
  ... that was when it was wild.
20. ASAri Shaffir
  It was wild. It was so outlawed. Yeah.
21. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah, no. But I mean, you, you just put-
22. ASAri Shaffir
  Oh.
23. JRJoe Rogan
  But if you're having conversations with people, you're not good at, like, facilitating the conversation, especially if you're talking to a scientist and you're trying to get as much information into as many people's minds as possible. So, if there's any confusion about what they're saying, you have to know when to interrupt them or when to lay back or when to... You gotta bookmark, like, a thought.
24. SGShane Gillis
  Yeah.
25. ASAri Shaffir
  Yeah.
26. JRJoe Rogan
  Like, I don't wanna interrupt.
27. ASAri Shaffir
  Yeah.
28. JRJoe Rogan
  But I gotta bookmark this because I gotta understand, what do you mean exactly by that?
29. ASAri Shaffir
  Yeah, you're good, you're good at saying that. Wait, wait. I, that wasn't clear to me. Can you say that again? Like, make that clear to me. I'm not sure.
30. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah. You can't pretend you understand something-
51:15 – 58:04
AI deepfakes in entertainment: Bruce Willis, ‘new Carlin,’ and rights chaos
1. JRJoe Rogan
  Well, hey, this is a real conversa- but this is a real conversation because with AI, they're gonna do that.
2. SGShane Gillis
  Yeah.
3. JRJoe Rogan
  They're gonna make new versions of Wu-Tang songs.
4. SGShane Gillis
  I can't believe-
5. JRJoe Rogan
  They already did it with Drake.
6. TSTom Segura
  I think that the thing too is, you know how they go, oh, likeness and, and-
7. SGShane Gillis
  Yeah.
8. TSTom Segura
  Right? Like the stars. Like, "Hey, you know, I wanna..." There's movies without... T- Tom, Tom Cruise will be like, "Uh, no. You cannot use my likeness. I am protecting it." That's, like, what some of this, like, uh, uh, uh, labor union stuff is about protecting your, your image and likeness.
9. JRJoe Rogan
  Yes.
10. TSTom Segura
  But they're g- I, I just feel like there's, you know, there's just gonna be one of these offers to one of these people where they go, "Okay."
11. GUGuest
  Go for it.
12. TSTom Segura
  Right? Like, it's gonna-
13. GUGuest
  $20 million? Go for it.
14. JRJoe Rogan
  Oh, no, no, no.
15. TSTom Segura
  Like, "Bruce, you know-"
16. SGShane Gillis
  Nicholas Cage. Bruce Willis has a neurological condition.
17. TSTom Segura
  Right. Yes.
18. SGShane Gillis
  He's not doing well.
19. JRJoe Rogan
  I, I forget, I forget what it's called.
20. TSTom Segura
  Yes.
21. SGShane Gillis
  It's called aphasia.
22. JRJoe Rogan
  Aphasia.
23. SGShane Gillis
  I think I might have it.
24. TSTom Segura
  Yeah, you're right. You're right. It's aphasia.
25. JRJoe Rogan
  You, you just bring it back to yourself?
26. SGShane Gillis
  Of course.
27. JRJoe Rogan
  We're just here talking about-
28. SGShane Gillis
  I can't look at a post and not think about me.
29. JRJoe Rogan
  Um, he's, uh... So Bruce Willis sold-
30. GUGuest
  I could still get him money for Bruce Sidehardt 7.
58:04 – 1:14:09
Imposter syndrome, celebrity interactions, and why some people can’t forgive
1. TSTom Segura
  I finally, I told you, I, uh... So Bert has this thing where anybody, anybody with any level of celebrity, he fucking geeks out-
2. SGShane Gillis
  It does.
3. TSTom Segura
  ... so hard on them.
4. GUGuest
  It's so embarrassing.
5. TSTom Segura
  Like, like a TikTok person.
6. JRJoe Rogan
  Oh, I love your stuff.
7. TSTom Segura
  He's like, "I'm the biggest fan. Oh, my God, I saw the video. Oh, my God, I'm the biggest fan. I love you so much. I saw the thing." And then he goes, and then he waits to tell them about him. He's like-
8. SGShane Gillis
  Mm-hmm.
9. TSTom Segura
  (laughs) He tells them his resume.
10. JRJoe Rogan
  Bert, do you have imposter syndrome?
11. SGShane Gillis
  Of course. If you don't, I am curious why.
12. JRJoe Rogan
  I didn't say I don't.
13. SGShane Gillis
  Okay, yeah. Yeah, of course you have it. Of course you have it.
14. JRJoe Rogan
  Why is he so aggressive today? You are aggressive. 100%.
15. SGShane Gillis
  No, 'cause, 'cause, uh, imposter-
16. JRJoe Rogan
  Particularly my g- My answer was fairly calm. You're right.
17. SGShane Gillis
  No, but imposter syndrome is kind of-
18. JRJoe Rogan
  I was just trying to find out what he was feeling.
19. SGShane Gillis
  Imposter syndrome has been loaded as like-
20. TSTom Segura
  (laughs)
21. SGShane Gillis
  ... a, as like a slur, as like-
22. JRJoe Rogan
  I don't think it's a slur at all.
23. SGShane Gillis
  I have it hardcore.
24. GUGuest
  It's a slur. It's a slur.
25. JRJoe Rogan
  No, no, I think it's this-
26. SGShane Gillis
  Hardcore.
27. JRJoe Rogan
  No, no, no. I don't think it's a slur.
28. TSTom Segura
  I think it comes and goes.
29. JRJoe Rogan
  I think imposter syndrome is a sign of an introspective person-
30. TSTom Segura
  Yes.

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