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Joe Rogan Experience #2094 - Colion Noir

Colion Noir is a second amendment advocate, attorney, and YouTuber.  www.mrcolionnoir.com

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Jun 27, 20242h 57mWatch on YouTube ↗

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  1. 0:00 – 1:15

    Texas day recap: shotguns, barbecue, and Staccato’s expanding range complex

    1. CN

      (drumbeats) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out.

    2. NA

      The Joe Rogan Experience.

    3. Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. (instrumental music plays) What up?

    4. JR

      What's up?

    5. CN

      Nothing much, man.

    6. JR

      Good to see you.

    7. CN

      Good to be back.

    8. JR

      We had a full Texas day today, dude.

    9. CN

      Yeah.

    10. JR

      (laughs) Full Texas.

    11. CN

      Doesn't- doesn't get more Texas than that.

    12. JR

      Shotguns.

    13. CN

      Yeah.

    14. JR

      Ate barbecue, went to the Staccato Range. How sick is that place?

    15. CN

      Man, dude, you shoulda, like ... I remember when I first went there, like I called it the ghetto, because that's what we do, but it like- there was nothing there.

    16. JR

      Just dirt.

    17. CN

      Just dirt, and like they had some- they had some bays and stuff like that too. Um, and we- you know, me and my videographer, we did some shooting out there and we filmed, but it was like nothing like it is now.

    18. JR

      Yeah.

    19. CN

      Now it looks like an entire little village-

    20. JR

      They're dumping-

    21. CN

      ... of guns.

    22. JR

      ... a ton of money into that place.

    23. CN

      Dude. Like-

    24. JR

      Yeah.

    25. CN

      ... c- like when we were going around, he was showing us like the whole property. I was like, I don't know if you saw my face, I was like ... what the fuck? (laughs)

    26. JR

      I know, there's a lot- it must be a lot of money in selling really good guns.

    27. CN

      Yeah.

    28. JR

      'Cause-

    29. CN

      Yeah. To say the least 'cause I-

    30. JR

      Like, the lake? Like you guys have a lake?

  2. 1:15 – 2:52

    City energy vs. getting out: why Colion prefers urban life (and why Joe doesn’t)

    1. JR

      Explain to me the I have to be in the city thing.

    2. CN

      I'm just a city rat. Like I like-

    3. JR

      You used to always like it.

    4. CN

      The- yeah, just the buzz and the energy of the city is something that I just ... it's in me. So it's like- like I can still like every year, you know, I'll go out to like Utah and go- go and do all of the, you know, eat, love, pray shit, and then back. (laughs)

    5. JR

      But you just gotta be back in the city.

    6. CN

      I- I gotta- yeah, I- I gotta come back to the streets, yeah.

    7. JR

      That's crazy.

    8. CN

      Yeah.

    9. JR

      I like staying in cities.

    10. CN

      Yeah.

    11. JR

      Like when I stay in New York City-

    12. CN

      Mm-hmm.

    13. JR

      ... I'm there for a weekend, but by the time Sunday rolls around, I'm like-

    14. CN

      Yeah.

    15. JR

      ... all right, get me the fuck outta here.

    16. CN

      Yeah.

    17. JR

      I don't like it. I've never liked it. Even when I lived in New York, I didn't live in the city.

    18. CN

      Really?

    19. JR

      I lived in the suburbs.

    20. CN

      Ah.

    21. JR

      I lived- but that was 'cause I couldn't afford it. I couldn't afford an apartment-

    22. CN

      Gotcha.

    23. JR

      ... that had, uh, parking.

    24. CN

      (laughs)

    25. JR

      Like parking in New York City-

    26. CN

      Oh yeah, you're right. Yeah.

    27. JR

      ... is crazy.

    28. CN

      Yeah, yeah.

    29. JR

      And I have to do the road, uh, travel a lot to do standup.

    30. CN

      Mm-hmm.

  3. 2:52 – 4:48

    NYC congestion pricing, sanctuary-city politics, and the Texas–federal border standoff

    1. JR

      During COVID, they made some weird law in New York City where you're allowed to eat outside.

    2. CN

      Mm-hmm.

    3. JR

      So they built indoor places outside. So they basically built like these like- there- there were like little trailers that they set up outside.

    4. CN

      Mm-hmm.

    5. JR

      And they put, you know, dining tables in and nice lighting and shit.

    6. NA

      See this one? Oh, no.

    7. JR

      Yeah, New York City drivers will have to pay $15 to ride through Manhattan. Yeah.

    8. CN

      I did not know that.

    9. JR

      You have to pay money to drive through the city. Well, first of all-

    10. CN

      Oh, oh, this is new.

    11. JR

      Yeah, yeah, yeah.

    12. NA

      Oh.

    13. JR

      They're outta money.

    14. CN

      Yeah. Well, yeah, this is what happens when you make stupid policy decisions.

    15. JR

      Yeah. You make terrible policy decisions and you say that you're a sanctuary city, and then Texas goes-

    16. CN

      (laughs)

    17. JR

      ... "Okay, great."

    18. CN

      (laughs)

    19. JR

      And they just fuck shit's ... It's kind of a gangster move by Abbott.

    20. CN

      I mean-

    21. JR

      It's pretty gangster. If you're dealing with the border and the border is where you are-

    22. CN

      Mm-hmm.

    23. JR

      ... and everyone's like, "We are a sanctuary."

    24. CN

      Yeah.

    25. JR

      You're like, "Oh, are you?"

    26. CN

      Yeah, right.

    27. JR

      "Wonderful."

    28. CN

      Yeah.

    29. JR

      "I got an idea."

    30. CN

      (laughs)

  4. 4:48 – 9:27

    Open borders vs. controlled entry: security concerns, incentives, and organized migration suspicions

    1. JR

      What is happening?

    2. CN

      I don't know.

    3. JR

      Whose idea is it?

    4. CN

      Uh, it's- in terms of what?

    5. JR

      Who's letting this happen? Like who's ... It seems very organized. These people know the border's open.

    6. CN

      Mm-hmm.

    7. JR

      So they know they can just walk through.

    8. CN

      I think- I think there is a l- there's a lot of virtue signaling, I think involved in all of the whole like- like you talking about with New York saying, you know, "We're- we're a sanctuary city."

    9. JR

      Yeah.

    10. CN

      "Just- yes, we accept everyone to come in, just not our state" (laughs) "in our city."

    11. JR

      Right.

    12. CN

      Right? Um, and so I think you have that combined with the reality of what happens when you have a border that honestly is not being checked, right? So if you- if you ha- if you have a situation where you have people who are able to just come in and leave as they- I wouldn't necessarily- necessarily say leave, but coming into a state and it's a choke point 'cause it's-

    13. JR

      Yeah.

    14. CN

      ... a lot of it is coming in through Texas. So, you know, it's easy to have that philosophy of, "Oh, you know, leave the border. Don't- don't make the border ... get rid of the barbed wire," et cetera, et cetera, et cetera, because we wanna seem as if we are welcoming to everyone. And I- I don't think it's a matter of not wanting to be welcoming. I think it has a lot to do with the same reason why you have a front door with locks on it on your house.

    15. JR

      Yeah.

    16. CN

      Right? Um, at least have a checkpoint to say, "Okay, well, if you wanna come in, I need to know who I'm dealing with."

    17. JR

      Well, did you see they had this one guy that was on video?... that, um-

    18. CN

      Mm-hmm.

    19. JR

      ... he said, "You will see who I am soon-"

    20. CN

      Yeah.

    21. JR

      ... and then they found out he's on, like, some terrorist watch list-

    22. CN

      Yeah.

    23. JR

      ... or something like that.

    24. CN

      Yeah, I, it's-

    25. JR

      Oh, terrific.

    26. CN

      But that doesn't surprise me, though.

    27. JR

      Well, it doesn't surprise me either, but it seems too convenient that it's happening with the numbers that it's happening at. It seems organized. And I would like to know, like, how is it getting to those people?

    28. CN

      Mm-hmm.

    29. JR

      Is anyone supplying them with resources? Is anyone telling them how to do it? Is this organized?

    30. CN

      I think it is. I, do I have any proof or data to back it up? No, it's a hunch.

  5. 9:27 – 11:35

    Domestic priorities and global blowback: poverty at home, intervention abroad, and consumer responsibility

    1. CN

      I think there's also a level of, of trying to pass the buck a little bit, or, or kind of a mass distraction because when you're looking at n- I mean, you look at these major cities and you see the conditions that a lot of these people are living in, in our own country, right? You start to ask yourself, "Okay, well, why are th- why are these conditions, and why do they exist," right? Um, and there are very particular rise area and very particular places within this country. So, it begs the question, it's like, "Wh- what, why can't we fix this issue?"

    2. JR

      Right.

    3. CN

      Right? Like, we're, they're talking about how we wanna help these people. They're, they wanna come into the country because they're running away from a shitty life and in a, in terrible environments. I mean, you mean the ones that are synonymous to the ones that we actually have in the country as well, but yet we haven't been able to address that issue?

    4. JR

      Exactly.

    5. CN

      Right?

    6. JR

      Exactly.

    7. CN

      Um, but I- I think it's a way to kind of push that to the side and, and sweep it under the rug, and say, "No, it, this is, it's a sexier problem to have when we're trying to deal with people coming from other countries-"

    8. JR

      Right.

    9. CN

      "... and we wanna help them because we're so noble and so brave." But I'm like, "You haven't even taken care of what's going on in your own home."

    10. JR

      And part of the reason why the place they are at sucks-

    11. CN

      Yeah.

    12. JR

      ... well, the reason why they come over here, is 'cause of what we're doing to those countries.

    13. CN

      (laughs) Then there's that.

    14. JR

      Let's-

    15. CN

      (laughs)

    16. JR

      Yeah, there's part of that, too. I mean, it's part of, like, when we shipped all those fucking jobs overseas and these people were making pennies on the dollar-

    17. CN

      Yeah.

    18. JR

      ... to make goods that we can buy here slightly cheaper.

    19. CN

      Yeah. I mean-

    20. JR

      And we destroyed unions and destroyed Amer- American manufacturing, and-

    21. CN

      You know, I... I'm not gonna go so far as to say a little bit is, a little, little bit of that is our fault as well as consumers, because when you do try to make stuff in America, right?

    22. JR

      Yeah.

    23. CN

      They're gonna be more expensive.

    24. JR

      Yeah.

    25. CN

      You know what I mean? And so, and a lot of people aren't willing to pay that price hike in order to have stuff produced in America. So, you, they, basically companies become incentivized to then go and have these things created elsewhere, because I've seen companies where they struggle because they're trying to make everything in America-

    26. JR

      Right.

    27. CN

      ... but that, but that comes with a price-

    28. JR

      Yeah.

    29. CN

      ... that a lot of people aren't willing to pay.

    30. JR

      Right.

  6. 11:35 – 14:29

    American-made branding and ethical supply chains: from Origin gear to a ‘non-exploitative’ iPhone

    1. JR

      Some of it is, but there's enough people that wanna buy American-made products from people that get paid a fair wage that if you advertise that-

    2. CN

      A lot-

    3. JR

      ... and make that a part-

    4. CN

      A lot of people say they do.

    5. JR

      Well, a lot of people do. Look at Origin.

    6. CN

      Yeah.

    7. JR

      Origin can't keep clothes on the shelves.

    8. CN

      Fair enough.

    9. JR

      Everything's flying off their, their boots, their clothes, their hunting gear.

    10. CN

      Mm-hmm.

    11. JR

      They can barely keep them in stock. Everybody wants it 'cause it's 100% American made. Every-

    12. CN

      Do you think that's the only reason why?

    13. JR

      What do you think it is?

    14. CN

      I don't know. I'm not fami- I'm not, I'm not that familiar with Origin, honestly.

    15. JR

      Well-

    16. CN

      So...

    17. JR

      ... Origin is my friend Jocko's company.

    18. CN

      Mm-hmm.

    19. JR

      And I'm a part of it, and I know that what they're doing is very popular.

    20. CN

      Gotcha.

    21. JR

      And it's very popular because what they've, that's part of their mission statement.

    22. CN

      Mm-hmm.

    23. JR

      Bring back American manufacturing. You know, put, take...... pride in the fact that these, these things that you're wearing, these things that you purchase-

    24. CN

      Are in here.

    25. JR

      ... things you use every day is 100% American made. Everything, down to the buttons-

    26. CN

      Yeah.

    27. JR

      ... the threads, everything put together, all the cloth, everything's sourced from America, 100%.

    28. CN

      100%?

    29. JR

      100%.

    30. CN

      That's actually pretty damn impressive. (laughs)

  7. 14:29 – 17:13

    Tech dependence, upgrade culture, and weird phone glitches (plus a TRX infotainment rant)

    1. CN

      Now, granted, I'm guilty.

    2. JR

      I got a fucking iPhone 11.

    3. CN

      (laughs)

    4. JR

      I keep... One of my phones is an iPhone 11.

    5. CN

      Uh-huh.

    6. JR

      That motherfucker works perfect.

    7. CN

      Yeah. I, I'm, I'm literally the person you're talking about. I upgrade my phone on the day the new one comes out-

    8. JR

      Me too.

    9. CN

      ... to the minute. (laughs)

    10. JR

      I got a 15.

    11. CN

      Yeah.

    12. JR

      I have no reason to have this fucking phone.

    13. CN

      Yeah. No, gr-

    14. JR

      No reason.

    15. CN

      Now, granted, I live and die by my... Like, this is... These phones-

    16. JR

      Yeah.

    17. CN

      ... do everything for me now.

    18. JR

      Yeah. Me too.

    19. CN

      I have reached the point now where I'm kind of like, I don't wanna upgrade, but for no other reason than I don't wanna have to go through the, like, update process. Like, changing... Like, the changeover process-

    20. JR

      Right.

    21. CN

      ... is really annoying.

    22. JR

      It is weird.

    23. CN

      Um...

    24. JR

      And s- sometimes, like, uh, phone numbers get all fucked up.

    25. CN

      Yeah. (laughs)

    26. JR

      Like, something happened where phone numbers got attached in iMessage to old emails of-

    27. CN

      Yes.

    28. JR

      ... other people.

    29. CN

      Yeah. It's... Uh, I've had some really spooky stuff happen on my phones. And I'm like, "What the hell's going on here?"

    30. JR

      Yeah.

  8. 17:13 – 19:04

    Horsepower addiction and the EV transition: TRX mods, Teslas, hybrids, and Porsche Taycan realism

    1. JR

      It's addictive.

    2. CN

      I wanna get the unnecessary 8,000 horsepower.

    3. JR

      The 1,000 horsepower pickup truck. It's true.

    4. CN

      Yeah.

    5. JR

      But the one that comes out of the factory, 700.

    6. CN

      Yeah, no, it's-

    7. JR

      I'm like, "What is wrong with me?"

    8. CN

      It's not. It's not, but I mean, America, right? (laughs)

    9. JR

      America.

    10. CN

      Yeah.

    11. JR

      Yeah.

    12. CN

      And-

    13. JR

      They're making... You know how the Dodge Demon is 1,000 horsepower, the new one?

    14. CN

      Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

    15. JR

      They're making a 1,700 horsepower Dodge Demon.

    16. CN

      They're making another... I thought they... I thought it was gonna be the last one.

    17. JR

      No, Hennessy is.

    18. CN

      Oh, Hennessy.

    19. JR

      So, Hennessy take-

    20. CN

      But that's Hennessy. Hennessy does shit like that. (laughs)

    21. JR

      Dude, he's a psycho. What a psycho.

    22. CN

      (laughs) I love it, though.

    23. JR

      Imagine getting a 1,000 horsepower two-door car and going, "Mm, I need... It needs more power."

    24. CN

      But it's, it's amazing how accustomed you get to speed.

    25. JR

      Yeah.

    26. CN

      Like, you can get, like... I mean, it probably takes, all in all, with consistent driving, I'd say about three weeks before you're like, "Uh, it could use some more power." (laughs) Like...

    27. JR

      That's the problem with Teslas.

    28. CN

      Yeah. I'm-

    29. JR

      That's the problem with Teslas. You, you-

    30. CN

      I'm still, I'm-

  9. 19:04 – 27:47

    Brand identity, exotic car economics, and mod culture: NSX vs R8, Lexus LFA/LC500, and widebody aesthetics

    1. JR

      ... one of the most underappreciated supercars that's ever existed. That fucking-

    2. CN

      I-

    3. JR

      ... last NX... NSX-

    4. CN

      (laughs)

    5. JR

      ... was a monster.

    6. CN

      I, to the life of me, cannot understand why it didn't do well.

    7. JR

      Uh, 'cause it's an Acura.

    8. CN

      (sighs) Yeah, but e- b- but everybody, everybody wets their pants over the older NSX, and it was-

    9. JR

      Yeah, but only car dorks like us.

    10. CN

      Yeah, that's true.

    11. JR

      Like the average person-

    12. CN

      Yeah.

    13. JR

      ... does not wet their pants-

    14. CN

      That's true.

    15. JR

      ... over an old NSX.

    16. CN

      That's true.

    17. JR

      They're like, "What is this fucking-"

    18. CN

      (laughs)

    19. JR

      "... old Honda?"

    20. CN

      We're so, we're so brand-

    21. JR

      Yeah.

    22. CN

      ... identifying (laughs) . It's ridiculous.

    23. JR

      I know, people are so brand n- Like, if you pull up in your Lamborghini-

    24. CN

      Uh-huh.

    25. JR

      ... right, that sick Lamborghini that you have? That thing is like, goddamn. If you're gonna spend that kind of money, that's the response you want. But, you pull up-

    26. CN

      But it's still just an Audi.

    27. JR

      (laughs)

    28. CN

      (laughs)

    29. JR

      It is an Audi, yeah. Yeah. It is an Audi, kind of.

    30. CN

      Yeah.

  10. 27:47 – 32:23

    California car-control proposals and consent-law debates: speeding limiters, statutory rape, and fairness vs protection

    1. JR

      There's some California fucking politician that was just trying to pass a bill to make it so you can't go more than 10 miles an hour over the speed limit in a car.

    2. CN

      Yeah, he should be fired.

    3. JR

      He's also one of the same guys that was a part of ... There was this very controversial LBGT, this guy.

    4. GU

      Oh, this is just the ...

    5. JR

      Is this it? California bill calls for tech to make new cars unable to speed. Now, who is the guy ... who is the, the, the, the, the guy who's at the head of it?

    6. CN

      Uh.

    7. JR

      Yes.

    8. GU

      Weiner.

    9. CN

      Weiner.

    10. JR

      So-

    11. CN

      He would be called that.

    12. JR

      He, but this guy is also the same guy that was pushing for some very controversial law about the d- so there's a difference between ... but they're trying to, they're ... yeah, Scott Weiner. He's-

    13. CN

      (laughs)

    14. JR

      He's kind of a freak. Scott Weiner's kind of a freak. Like, there's pictures of him with like a dog collar-

    15. CN

      The name, the name is so fake.

    16. JR

      ... on at the, at a gay pride parade.

    17. CN

      Oh, I know who you're talking about.

    18. JR

      Exactly, that guy.

    19. CN

      Yeah, that guy.

    20. JR

      So that guy was also part of some very ... that's him.

    21. CN

      He looks like a skinnier version of Jerry from Subway.

    22. JR

      Yeah. So he's got, uh, like a leather vest on with a, with a, a tie with no shirt at the gay pride parade, which is, you know, have a good time.

    23. CN

      I mean, do you, but yeah.

    24. JR

      Who cares? Have a good time.

    25. CN

      But, uh, but you're pushing it with this over 10 years.

    26. JR

      But he was a part of some very s- it, it was a very controversial bill that people were c- trying to misinterpret, but it was, it was about age of consent.

    27. CN

      Mm-hmm.

    28. JR

      And they were saying that age of consent, that there was some part about the way the law was structured that was discriminating against LBGT people.

    29. CN

      Uh, okay. Um ...

    30. JR

      Yeah. Yeah, that's what I thought. I was like, "What are you trying to say?"

  11. 32:23 – 40:25

    Child support, paternity, and alimony: when ‘best interest of the child’ becomes a system incentive

    1. JR

      Well, there's some wild unfair laws in California, and one of them has to do with whether or not you are the father of a child.

    2. CN

      Mm-hmm. (laughs)

    3. JR

      So, I know a guy and, uh, he unfortunately had a good friend who fucked his wife. And, uh, he did not know this was happening.

    4. CN

      Mm-hmm.

    5. JR

      And this good friend got his wife pregnant and he raised that kid as his daughter.

    6. CN

      As his own.

    7. JR

      And he didn't know until after his friend was dead, his friend died-

    8. CN

      Yep. And he's devastated.

    9. JR

      ... and then after his, after his friend was dead, he was stuck paying child support until that kid was 18, no matter what.

    10. CN

      Yeah.

    11. JR

      Even though he got a paternity test, h- he was like, "Something's going on."

    12. CN

      Yeah.

    13. JR

      Got a paternity test, found out it was his friend's kid. Devastating, right? Your friends dead, he was your best friend, now he's dead-

    14. CN

      Yeah.

    15. JR

      ... and you're raising his fucking kid, and you have to pay for it.

    16. CN

      (laughs) Wel-

    17. JR

      So, he tried to appeal, nope-

    18. CN

      Hm.

    19. JR

      ... fuck you, you have to pay.

    20. CN

      Welcome to California.

    21. JR

      But it was... Listen, but part of me is also like, listen, you don't have to be a biological father to love a child.

    22. CN

      Mm-hmm.

    23. JR

      And I have a step-daughter, I love her like my daughter.

    24. CN

      Mm-hmm.

    25. JR

      If I was in that situation, I would want to still pay for that girl. I wouldn't wanna give any fucking money to that woman, though.

    26. CN

      Damn. Yeah.

    27. JR

      So, if you have to give that woman money and then she distributes it, like, that's where it gets weird. Like-

    28. CN

      Yeah.

    29. JR

      ... because it's up to their discretion. When you pay child support-

    30. CN

      Oh, yeah, it goes straight to them.

  12. 40:25 – 1:03:34

    Staccato deep dive: factory pride, 2011 ‘cheat codes,’ conceal carry preferences, and constitutional carry impacts

    1. JR

      They're g- when we went to the factory today, so we should tell everybody, we went to this Staccato factory and we toured it for an hour and-

    2. CN

      Yeah.

    3. JR

      ... I didn't even know we were gonna tour the factory, I thought we were just gonna go to the range.

    4. CN

      Yeah.

    5. JR

      But they wanted to sh- they're so proud of their manufacturing process-

    6. CN

      (laughs) Yeah.

    7. JR

      Yeah. ... that they wanted to show it to us.

    8. CN

      There it go, yeah.

    9. JR

      It's amazing how much effort-

    10. CN

      See, I-

    11. JR

      ... is into each gun and how much engineering.

    12. CN

      The enthusiasm they had for you today, is the same enthusiasm when they were net little tiny spot-

    13. JR

      Mm-hmm.

    14. CN

      'Cause I did, I went, I did the tour when they were at the older building.

    15. JR

      I did too.

    16. CN

      Oh, okay. Okay, yeah.

    17. JR

      Yeah.

    18. CN

      Yeah, yeah. And so-

    19. JR

      Yeah, I basically saw the same thing twice.

    20. CN

      Yeah. (laughs)

    21. JR

      But now I see the big version of it.

    22. CN

      Yeah, it's-

    23. JR

      And it's pretty fucking amazing.

    24. CN

      ... it's... Yeah, it is.

    25. JR

      It's amazing.

    26. CN

      I- I-

    27. JR

      You know?

    28. CN

      ... I really, genuinely love Staccatos just inherently.

    29. JR

      Yeah. Well, I love engineering.

    30. CN

      Yeah.

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