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Comedy Mothership nerves and the pressure of a “special” room
- NANarrator
(drum roll) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out.
- NANarrator
The Joe Rogan Experience.
- JRJoe Rogan
Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. (rock music) Hey, Jeff Dunn. How you doing, fellas? Let's roll with it.
- JDJeff Dye
Thanks for having me.
- JRJoe Rogan
My pleasure, brother.
- JDJeff Dye
This is ... I'm a big fan, so.
- JRJoe Rogan
You were very funny last night. It was fun.
- JDJeff Dye
Oh, thanks.
- JRJoe Rogan
It was fun to see it.
- JDJeff Dye
Yeah. I c- I, um, uh, I was telling them before you got here that, like, it's very rare that I'm ner- like, got a little nerves.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, that club's weird.
- JDJeff Dye
And so when I, when I came out there, I was like, "Yeah, this is a big deal." You know? Like, I, I don't ... It's been a while since I've had some nerves and I was coming out there going, "Oh." It took me, like, about 30, 40 long seconds to really dial in and go, "All right."
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- JDJeff Dye
I was kind of having to add in my head, going, "Joe's watching and, uh, I hope this goes well." You know? 'Cause it's such a beautiful club. The, uh, the bar's high.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- JDJeff Dye
All that whole crowd's going, "Oh, we, you know, we're gonna see everybody. Tom Segura, Joe Rogan, we're gonna see-"
- JRJoe Rogan
You followed Brian Simpson too, who's-
- JDJeff Dye
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
... like, really funk- really fucking on fire right now.
- JDJeff Dye
I was just very, very, uh, it was just cool. It was cool to be in that... You got a torch?
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. Yeah, there's one right there. This is his torch.
- JDJeff Dye
Oh, that's a torch too?
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, that's a torch. There you go.
- JDJeff Dye
Oh, look at you. You got all the gadgets, huh?
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, we're, we, uh, shout out to Foundation Cigars. They, they actually made us some Comedy Mothership-logoed cigars. (lighter clicking) They're really good. Is it out? Yeah, here, try this one.
- JDJeff Dye
There you go.
- JRJoe Rogan
Sorry. (lighter hissing) It might be almost out of juice.
- JDJeff Dye
Got it.
- JRJoe Rogan
But, um, yeah, I get it. I was nervous when I first did s- stand up there too.
- JDJeff Dye
Yeah, it's like that. What-
- 3:43 – 6:20
How beginners write jokes: safe references, edgy shortcuts, and “blackbelt” topics
- JDJeff Dye
That's why so many comics go edgy or, like, dirty soon.
- JRJoe Rogan
Of course.
- JDJeff Dye
'Cause they're like, "At least the reaction's-"
- JRJoe Rogan
Exactly.
- JDJeff Dye
"... better than bombing." You know?
- JRJoe Rogan
Exactly. Something.
- JDJeff Dye
"I'd rather that than silence," you know?
- JRJoe Rogan
And there's always some subjects that just have built-in laughs, you know? There's some subjects, like, you pretty much can't fuck it up. If you, you got a ... It's a s- it's a topic that people like to laugh just at the top, they're like, "Ba-ha-ha."
- JDJeff Dye
I feel like every comic when you start, tell me if you've found this to be true. Of course, they all start with the, "I know what I look like." Or, "I look like a-"
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- JDJeff Dye
Or that you hear that.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs) I have a combination of them.
- JDJeff Dye
A version of that. Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- JDJeff Dye
Right. Or, um, they, they come up with a s- or they, they, like, a some sort of song lyrics. That's al- 'cause songs are poems.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- JDJeff Dye
And they're metaphors. So for whatever reason every comic's like, "Oh, I was listening to this song the other day."
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- JDJeff Dye
"And the lyrics were ..." And you're like, "Yeah, 'cause it's a metaphor." You're like-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- JDJeff Dye
... and you're gonna take the most literal route on this writing-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- JDJeff Dye
... to make yourself sound smarter than the artist.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- JDJeff Dye
But it's like, it's kind of an ... Like, "Trying to get to you and that monkey." And you're like, "He's trying to get to a monkey?"
- JRJoe Rogan
Right. (laughs)
- JDJeff Dye
And you're like, "No, dude. That's the radio edit of Booty."
- JRJoe Rogan
Ugh.
- JDJeff Dye
You know? They can't say, "Trying to get to you and that pussy or booty," or whatever the real lyric is.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- 6:20 – 8:13
Comedic voice and the unteachable: Harland Williams, Kill Tony bits, and uniqueness
- JRJoe Rogan
You don't have any idea how other people are perceiving you. It's chaos up there. It doesn't seem like it should be. It's, I, I feel like we understand it more than most people, which is why so many people think they can do it. But even we kinda barely understand it. Like, I understand how I do it, but, uh, there's a lot of guys, like, I see them, like, I don't, I'm like, "I don't know what you're doing but it's hilar-" Harland Williams.
- JDJeff Dye
I love Harland.
- JRJoe Rogan
Harland Williams.
- JDJeff Dye
I just did his podcast. He is so silly.
- JRJoe Rogan
He's just, he's so silly.
- JDJeff Dye
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
When you watch him on stage, like, uh, if you wrote that out-
- JDJeff Dye
Oh, yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
...it would not make any sense.
- JDJeff Dye
"Sir, could you please look away-"
- JRJoe Rogan
But here...
- JDJeff Dye
"...I'm trying to perform up here."
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs) I'm fucking dying.
- JDJeff Dye
Okay, right back.
- JRJoe Rogan
He was on Kill Tony-
- JDJeff Dye
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
...and he brought a checkbook and started just writing checks to people (laughs) for, like, a million dollars, like... And it just became this running gag.
- JDJeff Dye
It's really funny, yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
It was hilarious.
- JDJeff Dye
He had Jeff Ross roast a roast.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- JDJeff Dye
He pulled out a roast and he, uh, he put two little googly eyes on it and he goes, "I want you to roast this roast."
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- JDJeff Dye
And that's only Harland can do that.
- JRJoe Rogan
Only Harland. Only Harland.
- JDJeff Dye
If, like, if anyone else did that, I'd be like, "Get this dog shit out of here."
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- JDJeff Dye
But, like, Harland Williams, it's perfectly his voice, like you just said.
- JRJoe Rogan
I've known that guy for probably, like, 25, 26 years. He's always been super cool. No one hates Harland Williams, no one. You will never meet anybody who doesn't like Harland Williams.
- JDJeff Dye
He isn't like, but is e- is exactly like Norm MacDonald, where the f- where he's got his own thing.
- 8:13 – 12:11
Spotting original talent: Casey Rocket and the value of “never seen it before”
- JRJoe Rogan
"Yeah, I don't know how to tell you." William Montgomery's another one. Have you seen William? He's a young ki-
- JDJeff Dye
No.
- JRJoe Rogan
...a young guy from Austin. He was in LA for a while, then he came out here.
- JDJeff Dye
I've-
- JRJoe Rogan
His comedy is so str... (laughs) I, I wish could to, like, do one of his bits, but I don't wanna give up some of his material.
- JDJeff Dye
Oh, you got a kid that works at Mothership who I'm obsessed with. And I don't know if he'll be a star. I don't know, I've never been able to predict any-
- JRJoe Rogan
Which one?
- JDJeff Dye
...of this shit. If you'd have asked me if I'd have thought a lot of these people that became stars are stars, I'm, I'm not a good read of this.
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm.
- JDJeff Dye
But I do know a brilliant comic when I see one in Casey Rockett that, uh...
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, yeah, he's very funny.
- JDJeff Dye
And it's ju- well, here's the difference.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- JDJeff Dye
So, uh, for me, here's the difference, is when I, when you watch me, you go, "Oh, I know who Jeff's inspired by." You know, he likes Patrice, he likes Norm, he likes these truth-tellers, and he, and he loves The Simpsons. And if you know that formula, when you watch me, you go, "That's what this guy liked. That's what he watched."
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- JDJeff Dye
You know? Um, no one's doing what Casey Rockett's doing.
- JRJoe Rogan
No.
- JDJeff Dye
So at least it's different-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- JDJeff Dye
...enough that you, like, whether you love it or hate it, you go, "I've never seen it before."
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, even if you... Well, uh, first of all, you should appreciate that. But then, also appreciate that whatever he's doing, it's funny right now, and he's gonna get better.
- JDJeff Dye
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
He's gonna f-
- JDJeff Dye
I love it.
- JRJoe Rogan
It's gonna get even more better.
- JDJeff Dye
I watched him, I don't know if he'll like me saying this, but he didn't do too great on the show that I watched, and I'm in the back going, "Whatever that is, sign me up."
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs) You're like-
- JDJeff Dye
"I'll watch that."
- JRJoe Rogan
..."It," he varies, uh, but he does well a lot. He does well a lot. He's got real potential. He's a funny dude.
- JDJeff Dye
He did, like, six minutes on Jimmy Carter. Kid's in his 20s-
- 12:11 – 16:58
Building a comedy club for comics: acoustics, layout, and lessons from COVID-era shows
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, we feed off each other. That's one of the, that's the, the reason why I created a club. We were already performing out here. Um, we started performing out here in November of 2020, indoors, and it was, it was sketchy.
- JDJeff Dye
I never was-
- JRJoe Rogan
Like, there was a feeling of sketchiness. I was like, I remember we got really high one time, and I went onstage, I was like, "This is so not safe." (laughs)
- JDJeff Dye
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
It's like the middle of the-
- JDJeff Dye
Yeah, what are we doing?
- JRJoe Rogan
... middle of COVID, and they have indoor shows packed. There's no, the social distancing could suck my dick.
- JDJeff Dye
Yeah, yeah, well-
- JRJoe Rogan
There was no social distancing. It was just packed. Everybody was just going out like they were going out.
- JDJeff Dye
I love that.
- JRJoe Rogan
And we were at, how many of you guys have had COVID? Like, fucking half the crowd already had it.
- JDJeff Dye
Yeah, and we're fine.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, it was, it was wild times. But what we needed was a home base, and I was like, this place that we're at, The Vulcan, which is a really fun place to play, and a really fun place to see standup. It's a real fun room. But I wanted to do it where we had full control of it, where it was just comics. Like, it was, like, we have, like, you know, a group of humans that are really good at an art form, and I say, "What do you, what do you think we should do?" And we all just talk, and everybody's suggestion got in there. The reason why the ceiling's the height that it is, 'cause I took Louie, and Louie went and looked around, and he goes, "Can you lower the ceiling?" And I said, "I think we can."
- JDJeff Dye
Sure.
- JRJoe Rogan
"Can we lower the ceiling?" And I brought over the construction guys, I'm like, "What could we do?" And like, "Yeah, we can get it down three more feet." And he's like, "Get it down as low as you can get it."
- JDJeff Dye
Love that.
- JRJoe Rogan
But we just wanted to make sure that we could see from the balcony. That was the critical thing, like make sure the, the, the ceiling didn't impede the view from the balcony. So, we got to right where it doesn't, and then it really tightened the room up. But he also told me, he goes, "Comics like to hear that sound of echo, but that sucks." It's like, sucks for the sound. Like, that's like, it, you, you want the sound to be as clean as possible. You should, like, make everything almost like a sound studio. Like, have you done the old Icehouse?
- JDJeff Dye
Hmm. Yeah, love the old, no one bombs there.
- JRJoe Rogan
All, all the hardwood that pop, the comedy pops there. It like, it had, but it's also great crowds out there too.
- JDJeff Dye
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
But it, it's the, the structure of the building adds to the sound. But you don't really necessarily want that. You really want the actual laughs and like, everybody to hear everything you're saying-
- JDJeff Dye
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
... clearly.
- JDJeff Dye
Wait, so you think there was a problem with the Icehouse in the old way? Like, the way it was too easy and popped?
- JRJoe Rogan
It wasn't a problem 'cause it was a really small room, but it would've been a problem in a, a lar- a slightly larger room. It gets slightly larger and those echoes get weird. They get weird in corners. Like, that's one of the things about The Vulcan for, I've had friends come to the show, and they would go, "We couldn't hear right, where we were. We had to move."
- JDJeff Dye
Oh, that's not good.
- JRJoe Rogan
I go, "What, what was the matter?" And they're like, "Everything was echoing." I was like, "Oh, no. Really?"
- JDJeff Dye
(laughs) Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
So like, I guess there was like, you know how sound works in hard surfaces and corners? If you're in, like, the back of, you know, a little corner area and sound's coming from a speaker pointed in a specific direction-
- JDJeff Dye
Mm-hmm.
- 16:58 – 19:14
Zoom comedy and being ‘enemy #1’ in LA lockdown culture
- JRJoe Rogan
Bro, did you watch any of the Zoom comedy people tried to do?
- JDJeff Dye
Joe, I was one of the Zoom people.
- JRJoe Rogan
No!
- JDJeff Dye
I did.
- JRJoe Rogan
Jesse, no!
- JDJeff Dye
I had to, dude.
- JRJoe Rogan
No.
- JDJeff Dye
I had to.
- JRJoe Rogan
A, I would've done it.
- JDJeff Dye
I needed a-
- JRJoe Rogan
I would've done it.
- JDJeff Dye
... the c- I had one corporate event that was like, $10,000 corporate that was supposed to be in a theater. And then they're like, "Well, we can't now 'cause of COVID." So, I'm thinking I just don't give that money or they're gonna have to reschedule for another time. And they go, "But we can do it on Zoom." And I was like, "Well, that's 10 grand." And I would do it, it was terrible.
- JRJoe Rogan
So, you did a corporate gig on Zoom?
- JDJeff Dye
Yes.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, my God.
- JDJeff Dye
And I couldn't hear them 'cause their, their things aren't on. It's a bunch of people.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, my God. (laughs)
- JDJeff Dye
Dude, it was a nightmare, Joe. Also, I gotta say, it's really nice for me to be here because-
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- JDJeff Dye
... uh, during COVID, I was like, enemy number one in Los Angeles in a lot of ways.
- JRJoe Rogan
Really?
- JDJeff Dye
I'd have people at my house. I was like, "I'm not doing this shit." I was like, the only guy who was like, actually putting on his story like, "I'm not doing this." I'd like, go to coffee shops, you know, and uh, I'd wear a mask when they g- y- you know, when the, I'd be one of those guys. You know, I'd wear the mask in the store, but then, you know, if whatever, I'm gonna drink my coffee, want me to drink it through a mask, you know?
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- JDJeff Dye
So, I...There were comics, who are now cool with me again, but at the time, were like, "Can you believe Jeff Dye is just not taking this serious and by-" It's like not- it's ... I wish I lived in a place like this or Florida or something during that lockdown.
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, I kind of saw what was going on in the beginning, but I was hoping that we would come out of it and it really would just be a couple of weeks and everything would be back to normal. But when it got to a month-
- JDJeff Dye
Ugh.
- JRJoe Rogan
... and there was no talk at all about reopening, and then there was talk about it might be six months, it was all- there were- it, it got real weird. And then there was the George Floyd riots and then there was the lines outside the gun stores, and I was like, "Okay-"
- JDJeff Dye
That's what brought me.
- JRJoe Rogan
"... I see where this is going. I'm getting the fuck out of here." So I came out here in May of 2020. That's when I first started looking.
- JDJeff Dye
Yeah.
- 19:14 – 23:23
Weed laws, Paxton vs. Austin, and the origin story of marijuana prohibition
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, apparently it's decriminalized here in Austin.
- JDJeff Dye
Oh, okay.
- JRJoe Rogan
Praise Jesus.
- JDJeff Dye
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Uh, but then I heard that Ken Paxton is trying to sue the City of Austin, who I've met, he's a very nice gentleman. Ken, how dare you?
- JDJeff Dye
(laughs) What's he suing it for?
- JRJoe Rogan
I don't know.
- JDJeff Dye
What's that?
- JRJoe Rogan
I think it has something to do with the marijuana laws. Listen.
- NANarrator
Yep.
- JRJoe Rogan
Maybe it has something to do with something other pol- politically, like they sue you for this, so you refund the police. I don't know how all that shit works, but there's a lot of, like, weirdness when it comes to that. Ken Paxton sues Texas cities, including Austin, for decriminalizing weed. Dude, listen.
- JDJeff Dye
But why, Ken?
- JRJoe Rogan
This is stupid, Ken. Don't get involved in this. This is a dumb perspective. It's- the whole law is dumb and it was based on fraud from the very beginning. If you look at the history of why marijuana's illegal, it goes back to William Randolph Hearst and Harry Anslinger, they, they conspired. That's, that's the reason why they made movies like Reefer Madness. They wrote all these stories in the newspaper about marijuana and how marijuana was, uh, causing Blacks and Mexicans to rape white ladies. And they did it-
- JDJeff Dye
Which turned out not to be true.
- JRJoe Rogan
N- it was- they made this shit up. (laughs) Well, you know, you could find instances. There's a lot of people. But the point is that they made all this shit up just so they could, uh, stop hemp because, uh, the- they had come up with a new method of processing hemp fiber. There was a new machine that was invented called a decorticator. And the decorticator allowed them to economically effectively process hemp without using slave labor. See, when they stopped using slaves and then when they p- started picking cotton, people moved from hemp to cotton. But cotton sucks compared to hemp. Hemp is a way better cloth. It's way more durable. It's like, my friend Todd says it's like an alien plant.
- JDJeff Dye
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
'Cause it is like an alien plant. It doesn't- there's nothing like it. You could use its fiber to make clothes. It's the best clothes on Earth.
- JDJeff Dye
Hmm.
- JRJoe Rogan
Like the most durable. Like I have a hemp jujitsu gi, that fucking thing never rips. When I get cotton gis, these motherfuckers like, after like a few months of hard rolling, the, the, the things start getting loose.
- JDJeff Dye
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
And they start ripping and, you, you know, if you've had a gi for a year or two years, it's probably got a rip or two in it already. The- the hemp gis don't rip.
- JDJeff Dye
Hmm.
- JRJoe Rogan
You could take hemp, hemp paper. You could take hemp paper and you could barely tear it.
- JDJeff Dye
Really?
- JRJoe Rogan
And it's weird, man.
- JDJeff Dye
I've never known less about a subject than hemp or any of this stuff.
- JRJoe Rogan
I got fascinated because my friend Todd McCormick had a hemp stalk on his table, his desk table. And he goes, "Pick this up." And I pick it up and it feels like there's nothing there. It's like Styrofoam.
- JDJeff Dye
Hmm.
- JRJoe Rogan
But it's hard.
- JDJeff Dye
Yeah.
- 23:23 – 25:37
When weed goes wrong: psychosis cases and unequal justice reactions
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, it's a dumb thing, man. Look, this is not a dumb country. We're super educated now. We have amazing access to information. This is not 1930. This is not a confusing time. This is a time where we know exactly what things do. Now, this is also important to say, some people should not smoke weed, some people should not eat weed, some people should not do any psychedelics at all.
- JDJeff Dye
Ugh.
- JRJoe Rogan
Some people have mental health problems already. Some people are prone to schizophrenia.
- JDJeff Dye
Sure.
- JRJoe Rogan
And I've seen people fucking snap from weed. And I think-
- JDJeff Dye
Really?
- JRJoe Rogan
Yes. Yes.
- JDJeff Dye
I have not seen that.
- JRJoe Rogan
(clears throat) I think it's important to talk about.
- JDJeff Dye
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Look, it's just not me, but I've seen people, like Alex Berenson wrote this book called, uh, Tell Your Children, and it's all about there's like a certain percentage of people that take high-dose THC that experience psychotic states. There's this lady in LA who stabbed her boyfriend-
- JDJeff Dye
Jesus.
- JRJoe Rogan
... 108 times, off one hit.
- JDJeff Dye
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
He gave her some crazy super potent weed. She went wacky, stabbed him 108 times, and, uh, the, the fucked up part is she only got two years probation.
- JDJeff Dye
... yeah, that's wild.
- JRJoe Rogan
Two years probation.
- JDJeff Dye
That's a whole different problem, the- That's a crazy one. We were just like, "Imagine if it was a dude."
- NANarrator
Oh, God.
- JRJoe Rogan
And his excuse was, "I got high."
- JDJeff Dye
Hey, you know, weed, he gave you weed.
- JRJoe Rogan
"I was, I was high, I had to stab her 108 times." Like, what the fuck? You're in jail forever.
- JDJeff Dye
Women complain about all these social issues, but you know where women crush us? Court.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- JDJeff Dye
Dude, in the courtroom, there's no bigger privilege than being a woman.
- JRJoe Rogan
And by the way, no one, no one gives a fuck if your wife beats you up.
- JDJeff Dye
At all.
- JRJoe Rogan
At all.
- JDJeff Dye
A baseball player in the '90s, Chuck Finley, got beat up by his wife and he's like, "I don't wanna hit her back. I'm a big guy, you know?"
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- 25:37 – 36:04
Fear Factor fight moment and why sucker punches work
- JDJeff Dye
You know my favorite Joe Rogan moment? One of?
- JRJoe Rogan
What?
- JDJeff Dye
Yeah, everybody references your podcast, people reference your, uh, you know, the UFC, they reference your comedy. The, on Fear Factor, when that guy t- he'd go, "No, no, you don't get to hit people," to, to that girl.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, yeah.
- JDJeff Dye
And then he tried to defend his wife's honor and he, he'd go, you go, "No, no, if you guys wanna hit each other at home, you can do whatever you want. But you don't get to hit people just because you're upset." And then he tried to come to you-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- JDJeff Dye
... and you grabbed him.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- JDJeff Dye
And everyone realized real quick, I mean, maybe at that time it wasn't public knowledge how trained you were at, like, fighting and stuff.
- JRJoe Rogan
All I did was grab his neck.
- JDJeff Dye
Yeah, but it was, you shut it down quick.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- JDJeff Dye
No TV host has ever shut down a, a conflict of, like that, that fast.
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, that guy, they'd warned me about.
- JDJeff Dye
Oh, really?
- JRJoe Rogan
He had a history of violence.
- JDJeff Dye
Ah.
- JRJoe Rogan
And he had done some violent things on some other reality shows.
- JDJeff Dye
Dude, it was, you, you, it was amazing. They were like, "Fire the security on the show. Joe's got this."
- JRJoe Rogan
There was no security. That was part of the problem.
- JDJeff Dye
Right?
- JRJoe Rogan
I was around maniacs.
- JDJeff Dye
That was a big show.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, yeah, yeah. There was zero security. There was zero security. There was me and a bunch of random maniacs that were trying-
- JDJeff Dye
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
... to eat bull dicks-
- JDJeff Dye
Right.
- JRJoe Rogan
... and jump off buildings.
- JDJeff Dye
Yeah, we don't need security.
- JRJoe Rogan
And some of them were super sketchy.
- 36:04 – 37:57
UFC interviews and ‘legendary’ post-fight moments (Derrick Lewis, Conor)
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh. D- Derrick Lewis.
- JDJeff Dye
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
"My balls was hot." It has to be number one. It has to be number one. Derrick Lewis just beats this dude and then takes his pants off.
- JDJeff Dye
Okay.
- JRJoe Rogan
And he's standing in the octagon with no pants on, and I'm interviewing, I'm like, "Derrick, congratulations. Why'd you take your pants off?" He goes, "My balls was hot."
- JDJeff Dye
Oh, man.
- JRJoe Rogan
I go, "I understand, sir."
- JDJeff Dye
(laughs) .
- JRJoe Rogan
Like-
- NANarrator
It was a win.
... take your pants off.
- NANarrator
My balls was hot.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- NANarrator
I understand.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- JDJeff Dye
(laughs) I understand. (laughs) We weren't ready for that one.
- JRJoe Rogan
Jack is the man. No, I was ready for it.
- JDJeff Dye
That's so funny.
- JRJoe Rogan
I mean, my job there is just kinda ... You know, I'm not, uh, in any way a comedian when I'm interviewing fighters.
- JDJeff Dye
Yeah. Oh, that's interesting.
- JRJoe Rogan
That's a completely different role. I never try to make anything funny, ever. I just-
- JDJeff Dye
Oh, yeah. Good.
- JRJoe Rogan
My job is there is just to get out of them the best expression that they can give.
- JDJeff Dye
They're the star.
- JRJoe Rogan
That's it.
- JDJeff Dye
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
It's just me trying to get it out of them.
- JDJeff Dye
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
That's all it is, always. So, like, I've never, like-
- NANarrator
Conors was pretty good too.
- 37:57 – 1:03:15
Luck, competition, and what excellence signals to everyone else
- JRJoe Rogan
He really did it. Like, there's something to that fucking Oprah horse shit-
- JDJeff Dye
No, it works.
- JRJoe Rogan
... of, like, manifesting things-
- JDJeff Dye
The universe.
- JRJoe Rogan
... The Secret.
- JDJeff Dye
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
You know, something to that. There's something to it, but it's not guaranteed.
- JDJeff Dye
Oh, yeah. Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
It's this ... You, you know, you gotta figure it-
- JDJeff Dye
But believing it works.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- JDJeff Dye
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
There's, there's something to it. There's something weird to it.
- JDJeff Dye
You carry yourself in a different way.
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm-hmm.
- JDJeff Dye
Yeah, for sure. I've noticed that just with getting off the bottle. Just my comedy's gotten better, things like that.
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm-hmm.
- JDJeff Dye
But it's just me knowing, oh, I'm in my right mind now. Like-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yes.
- JDJeff Dye
Yeah, this-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yes.
- JDJeff Dye
I, I got something now to prove kind of thing.
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm-hmm.
- JDJeff Dye
Uh, not to make Conor McGregor about myself, but just-
- JRJoe Rogan
What about all of you as-
- JDJeff Dye
There is a thing about-
- JRJoe Rogan
But yeah, seeing it-
- JDJeff Dye
... getting your shit together.
- JRJoe Rogan
... making it happen, you know. Like, there's something to that. It's not ... Again, it's not guaranteed.
- JDJeff Dye
Right.
- 1:03:15 – 1:04:38
Politics spiral: Obama’s image, Trump media narratives, Iraq/WMD, and drone warfare ethics
- JRJoe Rogan
Before that, oh, they turned him, he turned himself into a monster, initially, because he was claiming that Obama was from Kenya. (laughs)
- JDJeff Dye
Yeah, yeah. That was a tough hill to die on, too, yeah. Like, it would-
- JRJoe Rogan
Here's my take.
- JDJeff Dye
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
Who gives a fuck what patch of dirt you're born on? Are we trying to pretend that he was, like, some embedded, uh-
- JDJeff Dye
It was a strange one, that one.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, was he, like, an embedded enemy operative that was gonna ruin the country?
- JDJeff Dye
'Cause I'm not an Obama guy by any means, but I remember being, like, "I don't care where it is."
- JRJoe Rogan
It's a weird thing to care about.
- JDJeff Dye
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Like, why do you care? Like, especially Obama. I mean, Trump was a lifelong, uh, Democrat. Like, most of his life-
- JDJeff Dye
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
... he was a Democrat, which is what a, a weird thing to care that this one guy who was ... Listen, f- put policy aside. I've said this a thousand times, I'll say it again. That's the best president we've ever had.
- JDJeff Dye
Well, he's charming.
- JRJoe Rogan
'Cause he's the best re- representation of what we would hope, we would want the world to see of America.
- JDJeff Dye
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Very highly educated.
- JDJeff Dye
Likable.
- JRJoe Rogan
Well-spoken, even-keeled, emotionally balanced.
- JDJeff Dye
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Brilliant man.
- JDJeff Dye
Not too Black.
- JRJoe Rogan
Who was-
- JDJeff Dye
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs) Who was cl- but also pulled himself up-
- JDJeff Dye
Yes.
- JRJoe Rogan
... from hard times.
- JDJeff Dye
And likable.
- JRJoe Rogan
Single mother, very likable, very charismatic. So all those things, and you care what patch of dirt he was born on?
- JDJeff Dye
Right.
Episode duration: 2:30:44
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