Joe Rogan Experience #2099 - Aaron Rodgers

1. 0:00 – 1:53

   Locker-room chaos: pee stories and athlete weirdness

   1. JRJoe Rogan0:00

      (drumming music plays) Joe Rogan podcast. Check it out.

   2. ARAaron Rodgers0:04

      The Joe Rogan Experience.

   3. JRJoe Rogan0:06

      Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night. All day. (rock music plays) And we're up, yeah, if you have to pee, that's the key to this. If you ... You can't talk when you have to pee, 'cause if you do, you're just ... You're not gonna ... Nothing's gonna come out right.

   4. ARAaron Rodgers0:21

      Yeah.

   5. JRJoe Rogan0:21

      You're just gonna, like, be concentrating on peeing.

   6. ARAaron Rodgers0:24

      That's, like, such a good conversation. It's like, "God, I gotta pee so bad."

   7. JRJoe Rogan0:27

      (laughs)

   8. ARAaron Rodgers0:27

      If I stop this, it ... what's gonna happen?

   9. JRJoe Rogan0:28

      Yeah, I've learned. I've learned you just gotta let it go. Is it-

   10. ARAaron Rodgers0:31

       Did Ari really pee in the fucking-

   11. JRJoe Rogan0:33

       Oh, always.

   12. ARAaron Rodgers0:34

       Huh.

   13. JRJoe Rogan0:34

       Yeah, he p- he pees in everything.

   14. ARAaron Rodgers0:35

       (laughs)

   15. JRJoe Rogan0:35

       He pees in, um, whiskey jugs. He pees in kombucha bottles. He's a psychopath.

   16. ARAaron Rodgers0:41

       It's like my buddy, AJ Hawk, he'll be doing the podcast and he's, like, just pissing in a Gatorade bottle.

   17. JRJoe Rogan0:46

       (laughs)

   18. ARAaron Rodgers0:46

       I'm like, "How many of those you got up in the fucking attic?"

   19. JRJoe Rogan0:49

       (laughs)

   20. ARAaron Rodgers0:49

       He's like, "Well, I stopped doing that." I'm like, "Yeah, right."

   21. JRJoe Rogan0:52

       When Matt Serra was fighting in the UFC, he, uh, used to, you know, drink so much water that he would have to get up in the middle of the night to pee all the time, so he'd k- ... He'd put, like, a bucket by the side of his bed.

   22. ARAaron Rodgers1:02

       And just leaned off? (laughs)

   23. JRJoe Rogan1:03

       Yeah, he just leaned off and pissed in something. I think maybe he had a jug, like, a one-gallon empty jug he pissed into.

   24. ARAaron Rodgers1:09

       I had a teammate who would piss himself in practice and games, and then spray a bunch of water to make it like he didn't piss himself.

   25. JRJoe Rogan1:15

       What? (laughs)

   26. ARAaron Rodgers1:15

       Just so no one would tell on him.

   27. JRJoe Rogan1:16

       What a psycho. (laughs)

   28. ARAaron Rodgers1:17

       No.

   29. JRJoe Rogan1:17

       That's a guy committed to winning.

   30. ARAaron Rodgers1:19

       Oh, yeah. (laughs)
2. 1:53 – 3:56

   Head trauma, microconcussions, and recovery tools (hyperbaric, peptides)

   1. JRJoe Rogan1:53

      You mean, especially ... I mean, your line of work. You're, you're, you're playing, like ... Other than fighting, it's the most dangerous game.

   2. ARAaron Rodgers2:01

      Yeah. Fighting is a little more dangerous.

   3. JRJoe Rogan2:02

      Yeah. Fighting is more dangerous. But not necessarily. You know? Like, for overall impacts, the kind of impacts-

   4. ARAaron Rodgers2:11

      There's more concussions, though.

   5. JRJoe Rogan2:12

      In fighting?

   6. ARAaron Rodgers2:13

      Yeah.

   7. JRJoe Rogan2:14

      Yeah. I would imagine. Just the, the sparring and training. That's the thing that people don't really take into consideration. How many times guys get hit in the head training. Depending on what gym they're from and how the gym operates, some guys, they go really hard in the gym. And, you know-

   8. ARAaron Rodgers2:30

      That's a lot of microconcussions.

   9. JRJoe Rogan2:32

      Mm-hmm.

   10. ARAaron Rodgers2:33

       Over and over. And then if you got one-

   11. JRJoe Rogan2:34

       Yeah.

   12. ARAaron Rodgers2:34

       ... then you get another hit.

   13. JRJoe Rogan2:36

       Do you ever spend any time in hyperbaric chambers?

   14. ARAaron Rodgers2:39

       Yeah.

   15. JRJoe Rogan2:39

       You do?

   16. ARAaron Rodgers2:40

       I did a bunch.

   17. JRJoe Rogan2:40

       Yeah.

   18. ARAaron Rodgers2:40

       Yeah. I did a bunch for my rehab. It was awesome.

   19. JRJoe Rogan2:43

       It does ... It helps a lot.

   20. ARAaron Rodgers2:44

       Yeah. I think so. I mean, a lot of it's, I think, anecdotal and ... But I know there's research, but it's not ... It wasn't like I felt like, "Oh, my God. I feel fucking incredible." It's like, "No, I think it's helping. Everything's helping."

   21. JRJoe Rogan2:55

       Yeah. There was some research that was done in Israel about, uh, lengthening of telomeres, where they put people in this protocol. I think it was, like, a 90-day protocol where they did 60 sessions in 90 days, and it showed that they ... their telomere length increased, which was consistent to, uh, a change in age, a biological age of 20 years.

   22. ARAaron Rodgers3:19

       20?

   23. JRJoe Rogan3:19

       Yeah.

   24. ARAaron Rodgers3:20

       I'm gonna jump in that thing when I get home. (laughs)

   25. JRJoe Rogan3:22

       I know. (laughs)

   26. ARAaron Rodgers3:23

       Jesus.

   27. JRJoe Rogan3:23

       I don't know whether that ... I mean, I've talked to Peter Attia about that. He's like, "That doesn't necessarily mean you're 20 years younger. It's probably beneficial, but there's, like ..." You know, but Peter is, like, very hard-nosed, like, by-the-book science. He doesn't leave any room for fuckery.

   28. ARAaron Rodgers3:40

       Trust the science.

   29. JRJoe Rogan3:41

       He was, like, late. He was late on the bandwagon for peptides. He's like, "I don't know." But now he's in, you know?

   30. ARAaron Rodgers3:46

       Good.
3. 3:56 – 9:44

   Aaron Rodgers’ Achilles rehab: timeline, protocols, and why he didn’t return

   1. JRJoe Rogan3:56

      So you are how many months out since your injury?

   2. ARAaron Rodgers4:02

      Almost five.

   3. JRJoe Rogan4:03

      Yeah, w- ... My wife was just here, and we were talking about how (laughs) we went to see your game. We set it up. "We're gonna go see Aaron play. He's gonna be playing the Cowboys in Dallas. Let's go." We got all pumped up and-

   4. ARAaron Rodgers4:14

      Uh, four plays later.

   5. JRJoe Rogan4:15

      Yeah.

   6. ARAaron Rodgers4:16

      Yeah.

   7. JRJoe Rogan4:16

      How is it now?

   8. ARAaron Rodgers4:17

      It feels good. It feels good. I can do everything except, uh, sprint at a top speed. So, um, the cool thing is I ... uh, there were ... I really attacked the rehab the first few months and kinda wanted to go as hard as I could for two months to see where I was at, and also see where the team was at, 'cause my goal was to come back. Um, nobody has come back, uh, really quick from that injury. Uh, most of the time when it happens, especially during season, there's no need, uh, to push a rehab. Because it happened the first week of the season, I said, "You know, let's push this as hard as I can and see if I can come back in December at some point." So I kinda in my mind had circled Christmas Eve, which would have been 14 weeks post, uh, surgery. And, yeah, I worked really, really hard. I had a great surgeon, uh, who did, uh, you know, a newer process where they kinda, uh, attach, uh, anchor the, uh, uh, the sutures through the tendon back into your heel, so it allows you to get on your feet quicker. Um, I did a lot of, you know, uh, other things to, uh, speed up the rehab. I did hyperbaric chamber, uh, worked with, uh, Br- Brigham at Ways to Well, who I ... you know, I know you're very good friends with and saw him on the podcast here, and he's amazing. Um, I did some stem cells, did, uh, um, you know, full-time rehab, uh, up to eight hours a day, with, uh, you know, an incredible spot in LA and also at home doing extra stuff. Uh, my diet was rock solid. Um, a lot of bone broth, um, to increase the collagen levels, uh, to increase healing. And so I felt, you know ... I felt really, really good. I made it back on the practice field, um, at 11 weeks. Um, the way the NFL works with the IR, you can, uh, have a three-week window before they gotta make a decision, so they designate you to return. You have three weeks before you get activated. So I was hoping we'd win those three games, I could come back. Now, I couldn't sprint and still can't at top speed, but I felt like there's been times in my career where I played in a small circle and could have been able to be effective. Uh, that didn't happen.... uh, and so they, uh, didn't a- ... They activated me to the roster. I just got to practice, um, but I didn't get to play. But, uh, I feel good. You know, I'm, it, it was ... I had a lot of things working against me, my age being the biggest one, but, uh, I learned a lot about, a lot more about health, uh, which I'm sure people would love to hear about.

   9. JRJoe Rogan6:36

      Yeah. Um, I mean, if you follow, like, a Ways to Well protocol, you can pretty radically speed up recovery for injuries, you know? Um, and what, what's interesting is that there's stuff that you can do that you didn't do, because it's not allowed, which is, you know, very admirable on your part, but I would- I would've fucking done it.

   10. ARAaron Rodgers6:56

       (laughs)

   11. JRJoe Rogan6:57

       I would, I would've done everything. Like, let's go (laughs) . I would've gone the full Conor McGregor route. But, um, when you do ... How do they determine whether or not you're fully healed? Do they do an MRI and check the tissue and-

   12. ARAaron Rodgers7:10

       Yeah, we were doing the ultrasounds actually for a while, just to see what type of blood flow we were getting to the area. Um, we didn't actually do a- another MRI. If I had been, uh, activated with the intent to play, I think just for safety for everybody, we probably would've done another MRI just to see the integrity, structural integrity of the tendon. Um, but really it was about how I felt, you know, and I was able to, to do all the quarterback stuff, um, move in the pocket, um, throw, uh, step into my foot. I could actually, you know, jog to slightly faster than I jog, to move and throw. Um, all things I kinda showed in practice the last few weeks of the season.

   13. JRJoe Rogan7:49

       What happens over that if you speed it up a little? Do you just feel pain? Do you feel like-

   14. ARAaron Rodgers7:53

       I, so I don't have the explosion. I don't have the ability to kinda, um, get up on my toe. The, the biggest, uh, hurdle was just single leg calf strength, like being able to-

   15. JRJoe Rogan8:05

       Hmm.

   16. ARAaron Rodgers8:05

       ... from a standing position shift my weight onto the single leg and do a heel raise.

   17. JRJoe Rogan8:09

       Hmm.

   18. ARAaron Rodgers8:10

       Um, that t- that's how you know you're ready to run, 'cause you run on your ... We athletes play on their toes, you know, so I need to be able to, to do that. Now, I could get around that by subtle movements in the pocket. But there was multiple times throughout my career where I had lower leg injuries in '14 and '18 especially where I was able to play in a small circle. In '14, I ripped my calf up pretty bad and was able to kinda play in the shotgun and the pistol, um, for a stretch of time and be effective. In '18, I banged my knee up in the, uh, f- second drive of the game, uh, you know, tore my MCL, had a, um, a, you know, a, a fracture on the lateral side, and was able to play, uh, for a while, uh, in, mostly in the shotgun until that healed up. But, so I knew I could do it. I wanted to show I could play under center, which I did, uh, in practice, but, um, you know, we just were out of it, so, so I didn't come back.

   19. JRJoe Rogan9:02

       Well, it seems like it's the smartest move at your age to make sure it's 100%. Like, the, like, I've seen a lot of athletes come back, particularly from ACL injuries, with fighters that come back too soon and it pops again.

   20. ARAaron Rodgers9:15

       Yeah. I, I, I totally agree with that on, on many levels. But then there's the competitor part where I see that, uh, that window closing.

   21. JRJoe Rogan9:25

       Mm-hmm.

   22. ARAaron Rodgers9:25

       And, um, there's not many guys who've been ... who've played as long as I have. There's a few. Obviously Tom did it for a long time, but, you know, there's kind of an age where Father Time is, is winning and I know that, you know, I'm, I'm, I'm on the last couple of holes of my career, so I'm, I'm, didn't wanna miss an entire season.

4. 9:44 – 13:11

   Longevity in violent sports: Brady, older fighters, and freak athletes

   1. JRJoe Rogan9:44

      Are you 36 now?

   2. ARAaron Rodgers9:45

      I'm 40.

   3. JRJoe Rogan9:46

      40.

   4. ARAaron Rodgers9:46

      Thank you though. Actually, yeah.

   5. JRJoe Rogan9:47

      You look 36.

   6. ARAaron Rodgers9:49

      (laughs)

   7. JRJoe Rogan9:49

      What is, uh, what is like the old- Is Tom the oldest that people have played?

   8. ARAaron Rodgers9:53

      I think Tom was 45 his last year.

   9. JRJoe Rogan9:55

      Oh, wow.

   10. ARAaron Rodgers9:56

       There was, there were some kickers that played about as long.

   11. JRJoe Rogan9:59

       That's crazy.

   12. ARAaron Rodgers9:59

       Yeah, 45 is-

   13. JRJoe Rogan10:00

       45 is crazy.

   14. ARAaron Rodgers10:00

       It's crazy.

   15. JRJoe Rogan10:01

       That's crazy, 'cause if you hear about a fighter that's 45, you're like, "Is this ..."

   16. ARAaron Rodgers10:05

       You hear about a fighter in their late 30s, it's kinda like, "Hmm."

   17. JRJoe Rogan10:08

       Mm-hmm. It's happened to ... The juicy days. The juicy days of the UFC, there were some guys that they competed really well, like deep into their 30s.

   18. ARAaron Rodgers10:15

       Well, there's still some guys that are, that are late, late 30s.

   19. JRJoe Rogan10:19

       Yo, Romero is the best example of that.

   20. ARAaron Rodgers10:21

       He ... Yeah, that's what I was just gonna say. I mean ...

   21. JRJoe Rogan10:22

       But he's the freak of all freaks.

   22. ARAaron Rodgers10:24

       Dude, that's- (laughs)

   23. JRJoe Rogan10:24

       They need to study that guy in a lab.

   24. ARAaron Rodgers10:26

       I know. (laughs) I think you've said that before.

   25. JRJoe Rogan10:27

       Yeah. Well, I, I've told the story so many times people get annoyed if I bring it up, but-

   26. ARAaron Rodgers10:31

       I don't care. Bring it up.

   27. JRJoe Rogan10:32

       The UFC brought him to a doctor and the doctor's like, "Where did you get this guy?" And they're like, "He's, he's awesome, right?" And they're like, "No, no, no, you don't understand. Like, he ... I've never seen a human being that's built like him." They said that his, the tendon in his eyes were three times larger than a normal person's. His, uh, eye fracture, he had an orbital fracture, it was already healing by the time they were bringing him in to the doctor. They're like, "This guy is just a freak." By the way, his neck-

   28. ARAaron Rodgers10:55

       Yes.

   29. JRJoe Rogan10:55

       ... is completely fused, so if you see when he runs-

   30. ARAaron Rodgers10:58

       Oh, wow.
5. 13:11 – 15:02

   California vs. Texas: regulation, EV mandates, and “control” politics

   1. JRJoe Rogan13:11

      Yes, sir. I mean, it's one of the rare times I go back to that communist shithole-

   2. ARAaron Rodgers13:16

      (laughs)

   3. JRJoe Rogan13:16

      ... commonly known as California.

   4. ARAaron Rodgers13:18

      (laughs)

   5. JRJoe Rogan13:18

      That fucking place is so crazy. You know, you can't get these... I had a friend of mine, my friend Moshe was here the other day, and he's like, "Oh, you have flavored nicotine-"

   6. ARAaron Rodgers13:26

      Can't get flavored out there.

   7. JRJoe Rogan13:27

      You can't get flavored nicotine.

   8. ARAaron Rodgers13:29

      Yep.

   9. JRJoe Rogan13:30

      Imagine. You can't get flavored nicotine.

   10. ARAaron Rodgers13:33

       I think it's 'cause of the, uh, the vaping, right? They wanna cut down the vape.

   11. JRJoe Rogan13:36

       What the fuck? What does that mean?

   12. ARAaron Rodgers13:38

       I don't...

   13. JRJoe Rogan13:39

       The, what does that mean? I'm a grown man. You're telling me that I can go buy whiskey, but I can't get flavored nicotine? Like, what are you doing? Like, they just can't wait to put more controls on people in any way, shape, or form. They're trying to outlaw internal combustion engines by 2035. No new sales.

   14. ARAaron Rodgers13:57

       Smart. Yeah, smart.

   15. JRJoe Rogan13:58

       Guess what, you fucks? Every time the power's, like in the, in the summertime, they tell people not to charge their cars, 'cause the grid's gonna go down. Like, what are you gonna do? You're gonna do a radical upheaval of the grid in 11 years? No, you're not.

   16. ARAaron Rodgers14:10

       I'm sure Newsom can get it done.

   17. JRJoe Rogan14:12

       Yeah. They're just talking. They just, it's like literally every goal is just say the right things, check the right boxes so people think you're green. You're green and you're all DEI'd out, and then they don't, they don't care about the infrastructure of the country. It's fucking crazy.

   18. ARAaron Rodgers14:28

       No, they don't care at all. They, they definitely don't care at all. It's, it's control.

   19. JRJoe Rogan14:33

       Yeah.

   20. ARAaron Rodgers14:33

       They just want control, they want total control. And, but see that's-

   21. JRJoe Rogan14:37

       But when you live in a place like this, you realize how much A, it's control, and B, it doesn't change anything. You don't, you're not safer-

   22. ARAaron Rodgers14:44

       Yeah.

   23. JRJoe Rogan14:44

       ... when they do it like that. Like, you're better off here.

   24. ARAaron Rodgers14:47

       Well, Texas has its own grid.

   25. JRJoe Rogan14:49

       Yes, that's true too.

   26. ARAaron Rodgers14:50

       As well.

   27. JRJoe Rogan14:50

       And Texas provides oil to much of the country. This is a, like, Texas could be its own country, and there's a lot of real psychos who want it to be (laughs) .

   28. ARAaron Rodgers15:00

       (laughs) You're one of them?

   29. JRJoe Rogan15:00

       No.

   30. ARAaron Rodgers15:01

       (laughs)

6. 15:02 – 19:20

   Political corruption mechanics: insider trading, money in politics, and RFK Jr.

   1. JRJoe Rogan15:02

      No. No, I still believe in the United States. I'm, I'm a patriot. I still believe in America. I just don't believe in politicians, and I think they have to figure out a way to extract money from politics. They have to do two things, two things that'd fix a lot. They have to stop congresspeople from being able to fuck an insider trade. That shit is insane. When you see the fact these people are making $170,000-

   2. ARAaron Rodgers15:23

      Nancy's incredible.

   3. JRJoe Rogan15:23

      Oh. Oh, she's-

   4. ARAaron Rodgers15:24

      She's great at it, man. She's, she's amazing.

   5. JRJoe Rogan15:25

      She's amazing. She's a wizard at it. But it's not just her. If you look at the chart, that's the thing about it is they all kind of keep their mouths shut, because if you look at the real numbers, it's pretty much divided between Republicans and Democrats.

   6. ARAaron Rodgers15:35

      It's both sides. It's definitely both sides.

   7. JRJoe Rogan15:36

      Yeah, it's both. Both sides are doing it. But that's e- that's crazy. They put Martha Stewart in jail for way less. Martha Stewart (laughs) . They put Martha Stewart-

   8. ARAaron Rodgers15:46

      (laughs)

   9. JRJoe Rogan15:46

      ... America's mom, they put her in jail for insider trading, and yet these congresspeople are completely exempt from it. And-

   10. ARAaron Rodgers15:53

       But it wasn't them, right? It was their significant other. I'm sure they weren't sharing any information.

   11. JRJoe Rogan15:57

       Some of it's them.

   12. ARAaron Rodgers15:58

       Some of it is them.

   13. JRJoe Rogan15:59

       Oh yeah, it's them.

   14. ARAaron Rodgers16:00

       Yeah.

   15. JRJoe Rogan16:00

       Yeah, they're, they know what bills are gonna be passed. They buy a shitload of stock, and they pass these bills, and then this, whatever industry is goes up, and they make enormous profits. There's people that are making 150, 170, $200,000 a year, and they're worth $90 million. In any other business, you would be investigated.

   16. ARAaron Rodgers16:20

       Yeah.

   17. JRJoe Rogan16:21

       And if you were a fucking plumber and you were making $190,000 a year and you were worth hundreds of millions of dollars, people would go, "What the fuck are you doing, Ted?" You know, they would crawl up your ass with a microscope. "Where the fuck did you get this money? How do you know all these things? Like, where are you getting this data?"

   18. ARAaron Rodgers16:37

       (laughs)

   19. JRJoe Rogan16:37

       "How are you able to do this?" Oh, you pass the laws, you pass the laws that changes the value of these companies, and then you gamble on that? That's what you're doing?

   20. ARAaron Rodgers16:48

       Hmm.

   21. JRJoe Rogan16:49

       You're going to jail. You're going to jail. Like that, that should be illegal, because you're gonna do things to profit that are above and be- that, that are ahead. You're gonna put that ahead of the better good of the United States. You're going to. They all do.

   22. ARAaron Rodgers17:05

       Yeah.

   23. JRJoe Rogan17:06

       Yeah.

   24. ARAaron Rodgers17:06

       Of course. So that's one. What's the other one?

   25. JRJoe Rogan17:08

       Th- they gotta take money outta politics. They gotta take th- the amount of donations that Super PACs and these, these special interest groups are allowed to give to these politicians, and then are completely beholden to them once they get into office. They have to figure out a way to stop that. I mean, it's, it should've never been allowed in the first place. Another thing would be b- get back on the gold standard. That would be a great move too, but that's too late.

   26. ARAaron Rodgers17:31

       But JFK was trying to do that.

   27. JRJoe Rogan17:33

       Yeah.

   28. ARAaron Rodgers17:33

       Silver standard.

   29. JRJoe Rogan17:34

       Yeah. Guess what they did to him?

   30. ARAaron Rodgers17:36

       Hmm. Yeah.
7. 19:20 – 29:14

   Pandemic aftershocks: pharma advertising, censorship, early treatment fights

   1. ARAaron Rodgers19:20

      But there's no money in, in, uh, in healing people. You know, the chronic disease, that's, it's a huge moneymaker.

   2. JRJoe Rogan19:25

      Yeah.

   3. ARAaron Rodgers19:25

      And it's not gonna change. I was watching something the other day with, uh, with, uh, Tucker Carlson was interviewing somebody named, uh, Calley Means. I don't know if you saw this. But he's talking about-

   4. JRJoe Rogan19:35

      Ozempic.

   5. ARAaron Rodgers19:36

      Yeah.

   6. JRJoe Rogan19:37

      Yes. I did see that. Yeah, we were talking about it yesterday.

   7. ARAaron Rodgers19:39

      But one of the big points that he made that, that people, I think, forget is that why are these drug companies, big pharma, um, spending so much money on advertisements during the news is not to sell their products. They don't have a problem with that. It's to control the messaging.

   8. JRJoe Rogan19:54

      Yes.

   9. ARAaron Rodgers19:54

      I mean, they are fucking controlling the message.

   10. JRJoe Rogan19:57

       For sure.

   11. ARAaron Rodgers19:57

       So if, if somebody went after them and said, "Hey, you're not gonna be allowed to advertise on TV anymore," 'cause I think we're one of the only countries, maybe there's one other country-

   12. JRJoe Rogan20:06

       New Zealand's the only other country.

   13. ARAaron Rodgers20:07

       Okay, so there's two countries. It would be, you know, they would be attacked for anti-science or-

   14. JRJoe Rogan20:12

       Yeah.

   15. ARAaron Rodgers20:12

       ... or whatever it might be. What, what RFK wants to do, um, you know, kind of the dismantling or the re, uh, forming, realigning of the CDC and NIH and some of these alphabet companies who have been, uh, lying and misleading the public for so long. You know, he would get absolutely slaughtered by, by the media. Why? B- not because they actually believe that, but because who's paying them?

   16. JRJoe Rogan20:37

       Yes.

   17. ARAaron Rodgers20:37

       It's those companies. So they control the message. So when, when you come out and talk about, you know, what you use to heal yourself during COVID, or when I come out and, and talk about, or Dr. Peter McCullough, or Robert Malone, or insert anybody who was just trying-

   18. JRJoe Rogan20:51

       Peter Corey.

   19. ARAaron Rodgers20:53

       ... to bring ... Peter Corey. They get absolutely railroaded-

   20. JRJoe Rogan20:54

       Yeah.

   21. ARAaron Rodgers20:54

       ... and censored, and silenced, and attacked-

   22. JRJoe Rogan20:56

       Yeah.

   23. ARAaron Rodgers20:57

       ... and slandered.

   24. JRJoe Rogan20:58

       It's n- I mean, it's not the news. It's corporate-controlled. It's completely controlled. And it's, it's not good for us. And the fact that people went along with it because they thought ideologically that that group of people aligned with their side, and the other side was Donald Trump, and the MAGA, and the vaccine deniers, and all, all the craziness that they attributed to that, I mean, it's really kind of brilliant the way they've pushed this propaganda. But at the end of the day, it's not beneficial to, to the greater good of society. If the, if the media was legitimate, they would be talking about one of the biggest crisises that's happening in this country right now, which is a massive increase in all cause mortality.

   25. ARAaron Rodgers21:36

       Yeah.

   26. JRJoe Rogan21:37

       It's a massive increase and they are completely silent on it. It's, like in some age groups, it's a 40 plus percent increase in all cause mortality, heart attacks, strokes, cancer. Gee, what, what do you think happened that changed, where all of a sudden there's this massive increase and it coincides with something else? Don't you think maybe they would investigate that? Wouldn't, don't you think that like you would have some sort of investigative reporter that dives deep into this and gets to the bottom of it? No. They can't-

   27. ARAaron Rodgers22:04

       Because they're captured.

   28. JRJoe Rogan22:04

       ... because of what you said. Because they're captured. Yeah.

   29. ARAaron Rodgers22:05

       They're captured. They're totally captured, 100%. And yeah, it's just-

   30. JRJoe Rogan22:09

       It's money.
8. 29:14 – 37:54

   Food, Ozempic, and the economics of sickness (plus glyphosate & farming)

   1. JRJoe Rogan29:14

      Yeah. Well, they made a lot of money and they'd like to do that again, you know, and that's what you have to be really careful about. But what they're doing that again now with is Ozempic. And they're making a shitload of money off of this drug that essentially paralyzes your fucking stomach. It- it slows your body's ability to digest, it causes a host of gastrointestinal issues for some people, all sorts of weird side effects. People have died taking it. And they're pushing it and they're pushing it even on kids. They're- it's like a primary weight loss strategy for obesity. Instead of dietary change, instead of realizing, like, you gotta get better the same way you got sick. How'd you get sick? You took a bunch of bad food. You got ... Here's how you get better. Eat only good food, you know? See how you got fat?

   2. ARAaron Rodgers29:58

      Exercise.

   3. JRJoe Rogan29:59

      You had too many calories? This is how you l- you gotta lose weight, so you have to have less calories in than you're burning, and you gotta exercise, and you got ... How about start drinking water? Stop drinking soda. We, we had this chart up yesterday of, uh, how many people o- on food stamps buy soda. Like, how much of food stamps is, uh, spent on soda. It's fucking crazy. It's like, poor people just drinking poison, drinking sugary poison.

   4. ARAaron Rodgers30:23

      But see, that's part of the, the problem too. You look at not just what they pushed or what they closed down during the, the, the lockdowns. You know, you had, uh, what was open, you had fast food restaurants open.

   5. JRJoe Rogan30:33

      Yeah.

   6. ARAaron Rodgers30:33

      Like, you had fucking processed food places open, but, but the food that's actually the best for you oftentimes is the most expensive.

   7. JRJoe Rogan30:41

      Yeah.

   8. ARAaron Rodgers30:42

      So, you have to find a way to, whether it's doing all-out, you know, tariffs on certain, extra taxes on certain types of products or, you know, I don't know how you're gonna change the farming system, uh, especially with Bill Gates being one of the biggest farm landowners there, and he's pushing, you know, insects and, uh, his, uh, uh, what's it called? A peel thing that he's putting on all the-

   9. JRJoe Rogan31:05

      Mm-hmm.

   10. ARAaron Rodgers31:05

       ... all the fruit and stuff. But the problem is that, that in order to eat healthier, you have to spend more money because-

   11. JRJoe Rogan31:11

       Well, what's-

   12. ARAaron Rodgers31:11

       ... the shitty food is the, is the least expensive.

   13. JRJoe Rogan31:13

       What scares the shit out of me is what they're doing to farmers in Europe, like the Dutch farmers.

   14. ARAaron Rodgers31:17

       Yeah.

   15. JRJoe Rogan31:17

       Like, and then in Ireland, they're telling farmers that they have to kill cows because they have too many cows and they're contributing to the, the global warming.

   16. ARAaron Rodgers31:24

       See, the guy at the, I think he was in Congress, he was interviewing somebody and asking these, you know, climate change people about, uh, how much CO2 is-

   17. JRJoe Rogan31:33

       Yeah.

   18. ARAaron Rodgers31:33

       ... you know, and, and, and-

   19. JRJoe Rogan31:34

       They don't know.

   20. ARAaron Rodgers31:34

       ... they're way off.

   21. JRJoe Rogan31:35

       Yeah, they're way off.

   22. ARAaron Rodgers31:36

       And, and-

   23. JRJoe Rogan31:36

       And they're making the decisions.

   24. ARAaron Rodgers31:38

       Yeah.

   25. JRJoe Rogan31:38

       And they, they, they literally are just... It's completely ideological. The ideological battle, the demon that you're fighting is climate change, and we must do something to stop climate change. Meanwhile, India and China aren't doing a fucking thing.

   26. ARAaron Rodgers31:53

       No.

   27. JRJoe Rogan31:53

       And they're contributing to most of it. Literally most of the carbon that's being released, like if you look at the amount of fucking coal plants that China has, they're opening up new ones. They have hundreds of them in construction.

   28. ARAaron Rodgers32:05

       Wasn't that the whole point of the, the... What was it? In Paris, they had some sort of-

   29. JRJoe Rogan32:09

       Climate accord.

   30. ARAaron Rodgers32:10

       Yeah. And, but it wasn't taking effect or there was different rules for other countries-
9. 37:54 – 48:36

   Surveillance state and digital insecurity: Tucker/Putin, Signal, Pegasus, Patriot Act

   1. ARAaron Rodgers37:54

      What do you think is going to happen with this, uh ... if Tucker really did interview Putin?

   2. JVJamie Vernon38:01

      I think he did.

   3. JRJoe Rogan38:01

      I think he did.

   4. JVJamie Vernon38:01

      Yeah. I saw a tweet-

   5. JRJoe Rogan38:01

      He's over there.

   6. JVJamie Vernon38:02

      ... where he said something like, "Why did I should-"

   7. ARAaron Rodgers38:04

      It's not out though, right? The interview?

   8. JRJoe Rogan38:05

      But what's crazy is the way CNN is already trying to spin it, like, you know, that Tucker Carl- ... you know, Putin's biggest fan. Tucker Carlson, a fan of Russia. You know, they're trying to s-

   9. ARAaron Rodgers38:14

      Oh.

   10. JRJoe Rogan38:15

       They, they, they're s-

   11. ARAaron Rodgers38:15

       Using the McCarthyism tactics.

   12. JRJoe Rogan38:17

       Yeah, I know. Oh, he's over there. He had an interview with President Russian Vladimir Putin.

   13. ARAaron Rodgers38:21

       Okay.

   14. JRJoe Rogan38:21

       Do you know that, um, he said that the NSA or the CIA, whoever it was, got into his Signal account.

   15. ARAaron Rodgers38:28

       His Signal. That was scary 'cause-

   16. JRJoe Rogan38:29

       Yeah. That's supposed to be encrypted.

   17. ARAaron Rodgers38:31

       Yeah.

   18. JRJoe Rogan38:32

       But nothing's encrypted anymore. I don't, I don't think there's a goddamn thing that you could do on your phone, unless you have some wacky, fuckin' crazy operating system that, you know, maybe only fuckin' Jeff Bezos knows. You know, I don't, I don't-

   19. ARAaron Rodgers38:47

       Think you can VPN, right? That helps?

   20. JRJoe Rogan38:48

       I don't think you can. I don't, I don't ... I think with Pegasus, the way it was explained to me by Gavin de Becker, who's a securities expert.

   21. ARAaron Rodgers38:56

       Yeah. He's-

   22. JRJoe Rogan38:57

       He's awesome.

   23. ARAaron Rodgers38:57

       Yeah.

   24. JRJoe Rogan38:58

       Yeah. Look, Gavin said that the first Pegasus, which they got ... Uh, that's how they got all, uh, Bezos' dick pics and all that shit, all the letters to his girlfriend that apparently her brother was d- doing something to try to blackmail Bezos, just 'cause he got ahold of it somehow or another. Those-

   25. ARAaron Rodgers39:16

       Jesus.

   26. JRJoe Rogan39:16

       That was through Pegasus. Pegasus 1, he got a WhatsApp link, supposedly from MBS, from Saudi Arabia. And he got this WhatsApp link. He clicks on the link and that (snaps fingers) puts Pegasus on his phone and now they have full access to your phone. He said with Pegasus 2, all they need is your number. They have your phone number, they can see everything.

   27. ARAaron Rodgers39:35

       What?

   28. JRJoe Rogan39:36

       Yeah. Yeah, so I mean, I don't know how it works. So, I don't know how they would be able to access your Signal account. I don't understand that. I've had the guy who created Signal here and, you know, he seemed to think it was pretty rock solid, but that was back then. You know, it's like they're always one step ahead of this. And before we know about it, there has to be some whistleblower that comes out and says, "Hey, the NSA can do this now."

   29. ARAaron Rodgers40:00

       Ed Snowden tried to do that.

   30. JRJoe Rogan40:01

       Yeah. Yeah.
10. 48:36 – 1:08:14

    Culture war flashpoint: youth gender medicine, incentives, and ideological enforcement

    1. JRJoe Rogan48:36

       Yeah. I haven't used it either, but the idea is that it's supposedly the antidote to that. I think there's enough people that don't want that. And it just ... As time goes on ... Look, even the fucking New York Times wrote a major story about detransitioners, so people that were convinced at an early age that they were trans and now they're detransitioning, and their lives are ruined. Their body's ruined. They can't have children anymore. They lost their breasts. They lost their penis. It's, it's in-fucking-sanity. They just took-

    2. ARAaron Rodgers49:05

       It's insane.

    3. JRJoe Rogan49:05

       They just had a- an eight-year-old kid that was taken away from his father because the, the father doesn't want the boy to be on hormone blockers, and the mother does.

    4. ARAaron Rodgers49:12

       It was happening in Canada for a while.

    5. JRJoe Rogan49:13

       Oh, yeah?

    6. ARAaron Rodgers49:14

       Now I've seen some, some cases in the States, which is-

    7. JRJoe Rogan49:16

       This is what Jordan Peterson was warning people about in 2016 when I first met him.

    8. ARAaron Rodgers49:21

       Yeah.

    9. JRJoe Rogan49:22

       And everybody was like, "Why do you care about what's happening in colleges? This is just fringe things that are happening in colleges." I'm like ...... those people are gonna graduate and they're gonna enter into the workforce and it's a new mentality that exists. It's not a f- objective reality mentality. It's an ideologically-based mentality that's gonna change the world at large unless we stop it in its tracks. Like, they're not looking at reality. The fucking de-transitioner thing, the fact that it's in the New York Times, is big. But do you know why? And there's a whole story that somebody wrote about it. It's because they're trial lawyers. Th- everyone's going to get sued.

    10. JVJamie Vernon49:57

        Yeah.

    11. JRJoe Rogan49:57

        And it's gonna be a big fucking problem because you've thousands of people that have unfortunately given into this. Kids are extremely malleable. They're extremely easy to manipulate. They're extremely easy to influence. We've always known this. It's one of the reasons why you don't let children get tattoos. It's one of the reasons why you don't let children join the military. It's one of the ch- reason why you don't let children have children. It's one of the reasons why we have ages of consent, because we know that they're not s- young enough, they're not, or they're n- they're not smart enough, they're not old enough to make their own decisions. They can be n- bein- bein' manipulated. So, if they can be manipulated that way, why the fuck would we think they can't be manipulated by this emerging market, which is gender care, this gender affirming care? Have you ever seen the map of, like, gender care from 2007 versus 2022? Have you ever seen that?

    12. JVJamie Vernon50:49

        Yeah, I saw it somewhere. Yeah.

    13. JRJoe Rogan50:51

        Here, I'll g- I'll send it to you, Jamie, so you can take a look at it. But it's fucking bananas. It's a business. My friend, who is a doctor, told me that his friend, who is a plastic surgeon, who moved into gender transition care, he told me the difference between what that person gets paid for an arthroscopic surgery versus what they get paid for a gender transition. I forget what the number was for arthroscopic surgery, but for the gender transition, he gets $70,000 every time he does this. And he goes, and this guy is raking it in. He's doing them all week.

    14. JVJamie Vernon51:24

        It's, uh, it's, it's-

    15. JRJoe Rogan51:25

        It is a p-

    16. JVJamie Vernon51:26

        ... so scary.

    17. JRJoe Rogan51:26

        It's the, you know, the cure to all that ails for a lot of people. They think, "Oh, well this is what's gonna fix me. I'm fucked up. Why am I fucked up? What's wrong with me? What's my problem? Oh, I'm really a girl," or, "Oh, I'm really a boy."

    18. JVJamie Vernon51:41

        And, you know, kids wanna be, they don't wanna be an outsider. They want, you know-

    19. JRJoe Rogan51:43

        Exactly.

    20. JVJamie Vernon51:44

        ... th- th- the, it's kind of in vogue to be non-binary or whatever the-

    21. JRJoe Rogan51:50

        30% of kids today recognize themselves either as trans, gay, bi, or non-binary. 30%. Now, look at this.

    22. JVJamie Vernon52:00

        Yeah.

    23. JRJoe Rogan52:00

        The pediatric gender clinics in 2007, there was two. One was in Virginia and one, it looks like, was in Massachusetts. And now, look at them. They're all over the country. And this is in 2022. I mean, that's, that's crazy. The idea that this is just they're recognizing there's a problem that didn't exis- that existed all the time, but wasn't being treated. That's nuts. That doesn't make sense. Especially when you're talking about children.

    24. JVJamie Vernon52:26

        They're fucking kids.

    25. JRJoe Rogan52:27

        Yeah, they're kids.

    26. JVJamie Vernon52:28

        Kids.

    27. JRJoe Rogan52:28

        And y- there's a thing called Munchausen by proxy.

    28. JVJamie Vernon52:31

        Yeah.

    29. JRJoe Rogan52:32

        You know, where women, sick women, will make their children ill. They will do it on purpose so that they get attention for their children b- p- there's been women out there, evil, crazy people, that have poisoned their children.

    30. JVJamie Vernon52:45

        Yeah, I've seen a couple of the documentaries about it and-
11. 1:08:14 – 1:26:18

    Conspiracy lane: WEF symbolism, Tartaria, free-energy claims, and “water car” lore

    1. JRJoe Rogan1:08:14

       We'll be right back, folks. Okay, and we're back. Marshall, come say hi. Come here, pal. Come on up here. Come on up here. Come here, pal. Come say hi to everybody. You want to be on camera? Come on. Yes, sir. Give me a kiss. Hello, buddy. Hello, buddy.

    2. ARAaron Rodgers1:08:30

       (laughs)

    3. JRJoe Rogan1:08:31

       What are you doing? He gets sad when we're not here.

    4. ARAaron Rodgers1:08:35

       Mm-hmm. Mm.

    5. JRJoe Rogan1:08:35

       He's the best. Is, um, Carl with you, Jamie?

    6. ARAaron Rodgers1:08:38

       Jamie, did we figure that out?

    7. JVJamie Vernon1:08:40

       Yeah.

    8. JRJoe Rogan1:08:41

       Aw, crapo.

    9. ARAaron Rodgers1:08:42

       Mm-hmm.

    10. JVJamie Vernon1:08:42

        Carl's with you.

    11. JRJoe Rogan1:08:42

        You want to get Carl on camera?

    12. JVJamie Vernon1:08:44

        Sure. Um, okay.

    13. JRJoe Rogan1:08:47

        Marshall looks at Carl as an attention thief. He's like, "That guy's gonna steal my attention."

    14. ARAaron Rodgers1:08:51

        (laughs)

    15. JRJoe Rogan1:08:52

        Have a seat, buddy.

    16. JVJamie Vernon1:08:54

        Uh, what was the question we were looking at? Oh, sorry, I had something else popped-

    17. JRJoe Rogan1:08:56

        Oh, we're gonna look up whatever this fucking thing means under the Carl Schwab, Klaus Schwab, uh, photograph. You know that wacky photograph that we have out there? It has something in Latin underneath it. I'm gonna send it to you. Okay, I sent it. He's standing at that podium dressed like Darth Vader.

    18. ARAaron Rodgers1:09:17

        (laughs)

    19. JVJamie Vernon1:09:18

        (laughs)

    20. JRJoe Rogan1:09:18

        It's incredible.

    21. ARAaron Rodgers1:09:19

        They're so out in the open with it.

    22. JRJoe Rogan1:09:21

        Yeah.

    23. ARAaron Rodgers1:09:21

        It almost makes you feel like you're being punked.

    24. JVJamie Vernon1:09:23

        Scienta-

    25. JRJoe Rogan1:09:25

        Yeah.

    26. JVJamie Vernon1:09:25

        ... ingenium virtus. Uh, so it's like s- ... uh, I'll look it up, but ...

    27. JRJoe Rogan1:09:30

        Does this have something with virtue and science?

    28. ARAaron Rodgers1:09:32

        Trust the science.

    29. JRJoe Rogan1:09:33

        Yeah.

    30. ARAaron Rodgers1:09:34

        (laughs)

Episode duration: 2:23:26